Living with Forceful Let Down

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  • @mellynne587
    @mellynne587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this video series! I struggle with that and appreciate your advice!

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! How old is your little one?

    • @mellynne587
      @mellynne587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mary Cahill, Certified Lactation Counselor he is 5 months old now!

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      MelLynne58 Do you feel like it’s getting better? You have some teething coming on and that can add an increase to supply.

  • @elenikourneta6930
    @elenikourneta6930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am breastfeeding twins for almost 4 months now and I am not wearing a bra at all. So your suggestion can be helpful...I hope. I have FL and baby A is choking every morning and she is very gassy and she is crying when gassing. Baby B can cope with overflow but he is gaining less weight and more slowly (he has a tongue tie as well). I am only pumping once a day just to have some milk when I am not around. Your information in all three videos were very helpful. Do you have experience with other breastfeeding twin mamas?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of my twin moms with FL/OS, really struggle. It’s common to have one that chokes and one that is slow to gain. Many times, my moms will go to feeding one from the breast and the choking one from a bottle. I’m not saying that this is what you should do but I do see this often.
      You sound like you’re doing fairly well with it all. How do you feel that things are going?
      I asked you some questions on your other comment ❤️

  • @Alexis_G22
    @Alexis_G22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I suspected I had an overactive letdown when baby was popping off a lot and crying. Baby ways low weight so I’ve been supplementing. 😢 I don’t respond to a pump. Any suggestions there ?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alexis_G22 How many mls/ounces of milk are you able to pump at once and how much each day?
      How old is baby?
      Here’s a link to watch the 2 videos that come before this one.
      Forceful Letdown and Oversupply
      th-cam.com/play/PLbqc4bXQcbyUzyNxG-w7tBtKLWA3NpzLe.html

  • @jennafloore9342
    @jennafloore9342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you demonstrate how to use hand while nursing to slow down letdown?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you mean the technique of pressing into your breast to stop or slow the letdown?
      If so, that should only be used in an “emergency”. An example would be, if you’re in the grocery store and a baby cries and you have a big letdown. Doing this more than absolutely necessary, can lead to clogged ducts. Wearing breast pads or milk collectors are a better option.
      Let me know if I wasn’t understanding what you meant. ❤️

    • @jennafloore9342
      @jennafloore9342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marycahillclc thanks! Is it normal for a 1 week old to cough/get strangled during some letdowns as they are getting used to things?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennafloore9342 It can be normal. Many moms tend to have a little bit of an oversupply in the beginning, but they don’t have the condition forceful letdown for/over supply. You can take steps to help baby not to choke on the letdown. You can do this by holding baby more upright or taking baby off for a few seconds when the letdown starts.
      If you have older children, and you know that you have this condition, then you’ll know that you have it with every baby
      Do you have older babies that you’ve seen this problem with?
      This is my three part playlist on forceful letdown/over supply. The video that you watched was the third in the series so I’m linking it here so that you can watch the first two also ❤️
      Forceful Letdown and Oversupply
      th-cam.com/play/PLbqc4bXQcbyUzyNxG-w7tBtKLWA3NpzLe.html

  • @alita521
    @alita521 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My baby is dealing with reflux due to my overactive letdown. (occasional green slimy poops, sour breath, many spit ups after one feeding, hiccups, and some belly discomfort)
    I don't necessarily need to pump, as I am home with him often . But I would like to know if pumping and using a bottle would be a lot better for him to control the reflux better. I could then sit him upright to feed and the milk wouldn't be so overactive based on the bottle. I would just have to make sure that I'm not over pumping and staying around the 24 to 30 Ounces

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old is baby? This video that you’re commenting on is the third in a three part series. Did you see the other two? Especially video number two that all link below in this comment just in case.
      Sometimes it is necessary to go to exclusively pumping, if mom’s condition is fairly extreme and can’t be controlled.
      When mom has a forceful letdown/oversupply baby will often have reflux. That will get better when mom‘s condition is controlled.
      Reflux isn’t a “condition” but instead , it’s a “symptom”of something else going on. It’s like having a stomach ache. The stomach ache is a symptom of something else. Maybe caused by the flu or something you ate.
      This video will help to fully understand how to reduce supply.
      How to Handle my Forceful Let Down
      th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

  • @mariaofeliadetorre501
    @mariaofeliadetorre501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou for your video, I went with a lactation consultant and information was similar, my only concer is the hand expresion, they told me to hand express, but you say it stimulates production, why is that? and why it does not happen with a pump? For me is much more convinient to hand express, specially at night, thankyou!

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If hand expressing is working then that’s ok. For moms with a larch FL/OS, this can make it a bit worse because your hands are adding more stimulation over your breast.
      How old is baby? Is baby having lots of issues?
      Are you doing some extra pumping or just enough for bottle feeding at the time?
      I’ll link a different video here that might explain things better
      How to Handle my Forceful Let Down
      th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

    • @mariaofeliadetorre501
      @mariaofeliadetorre501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marycahillclc baby is 5 weeks now, I have oversupply and I start using one breast per feeding, I extract hand express just like half or a oz beafore feeding baby, so she can get to the hindmilk and the breast that I dont use for the feeding I extract a little or nothing depending how full it feels

    • @mariaofeliadetorre501
      @mariaofeliadetorre501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thankyou for helping!

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariaofeliadetorre501 I know the thought of expressing a little milk before nursing so baby can get hind milk sounds like a good plan but it will only work for a short period of time. Once your body knows that you want more milk, it will also make more foremilk. I hope that makes sense.
      Block feeding is great. When did you start that and how is it going?
      How is baby doing with your condition? Is weight gain improving? Any tummy issues?

    • @mariaofeliadetorre501
      @mariaofeliadetorre501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marycahillclc baby is gaining good weight, she has loose stools all the time, my pediatrician though it might be an allergy, so I got all the food restricitions, but my lactation cosultant told me it is probably the oversupply what is causing the loose stools, so you would recomend not extracting milk? Only using one breast per feeding?

  • @higgerdon12
    @higgerdon12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, I think I may have this issue. My daughter would only eat for 5 minutes at this time and had a lot of issues with gas. She never had weight issues but when I went back to work and was mostly pumping, she started refusing the breast because she kept choking on my let down. And eventually when I was forced to exclusively pump, I started barely producing enough milk to get her through the day and almost had to switch to formula by month 10 but she refused it lol.
    But now with my son, he's a big eater and at the beginning would nurse every hour or so for 20 minutes at the time! He noticeably choked a lot at every feeding once my milk came it and he struggles with pretty bad gas as well. When I have a letdown both kids pull off the breast and it sprays halfway across the room. I've only everdone block feeding with both of them. I'm concerned that since I had trouble with my first running out of milk once I went to exclusive pumping. I'm worried that maybe I don't have oversupply and maybe my letdown is just strong? Or maybe my pump just doesn't get the job done? Is there a way to know for sure that I have this condition before I take steps to reduce my supply? I don't want to impact his growth and don't want to hurt my ability to nurse or start having issues with undersupply.. is there a way to know for sure if they're getting hind milk? Thanks

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mommy! There’s not a way to know how much hind milk baby is getting but if baby gets mostly foremilk, they will be extra gassy because foremilk has more lactose. Such a large amount of lactose will upset a tummy.
      If you have a forceful letdown, you will have at least a bit of an oversupply. As time goes on, your supply will go down but you should be able to increase the supply by adding stimulation (breast massage).
      How many ounces were you able to pump per day at that 10 month postpartum time? Some moms go from pumping a huge amount down to a “normal” amount and feel like they’re supply is to low. An exclusively breastfed baby from one month to six months old eats an average of 24 ounces every 24 hours. From six months to one year it might increase to about 30 ounces a day it usually stays till closer to 24 ounces.
      Some moms don’t respond well to a pump. Even moms with an over supply may have trouble having a let down. Applying heat before pumping, watching videos of baby or relaxing techniques can help.
      I have three videos on this. Did you see the other two? The first one just helps you to decide if this is what you have. The second one I think goes over the basics a little better. I’ll link that video here for you.❤️

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

    • @higgerdon12
      @higgerdon12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did see the other videos and I'm pretty sure I have it, again just worried since last time I had trouble making enough milk for my daughter at the end. I was only making about 20 oz/Day once I went to exclusive pumping around 9 mos. Luckily I had some supply to help but we had a lot of sleepless nights toward the end because if have to get up every hour to try to pump something to feed her. Often it'd only be 1 oz between both sides after a 30 min pump session. And she absolutely refused formula.
      So I'm not sure since we're growing fine if I should just let him deal with the gas and oversupply now in case it happens again, or if I should take steps to correct it...?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@higgerdon12 if baby isn’t having to much trouble, I would just keep going like you are. The block feeding should be helping.
      If you did need to go to exclusively pumping, adding massage and pumping at regular times help. There’s no need to pump at night, if you pump at regular times in the day.that will increase supply.
      Power pumping once a day would help too but do it at the same time every day. ❤️

    • @higgerdon12
      @higgerdon12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marycahillclc thanks for your help!!

  • @alita521
    @alita521 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When using a haakaa, in the past, I've seen what looks like the hind milk, which is more fatty.
    Is it possible that if I pumped milk and there was a separation between the two types of milks, would shaking the bottle and mixing it together allow baby to get a better supply in a session?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, you can shake the bottle to mix it. It won’t hurt the milk.

  • @YuliyaManno
    @YuliyaManno 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the solution for exclusive pumpers to discard the first foremilk?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you are exclusively pumping, that can be helpful but getting your supply under control is usually best. Keeping a high output of milk, usually makes all of your milk a little lower in fat and higher in lactose.
      Keeping a huge supply can be ok for some moms but for many, it increases chances of a clogged duct and mastitis.
      *For moms who feed from the breast, this will just make more foremilk.
      This video may help to explain a little more ❤️
      How to Handle my Forceful Let Down
      th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

  • @WHIT10E
    @WHIT10E 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Okay so with block feeding if the other breast is getting engorged we can pump it so it doesn't lead to clogged ducts? I am almost on week two of an elimination diet because my daughter is having so many symptoms...
    -foul smelling green mucusy poop
    -nasal congestion
    -she chokes while nursing
    -makes a chugging noise while nursing
    Could this really be letdown and not an intolerance? I am almost 4 months postpartum... Could I really still have an oversupply and that strong of a letdown? I just want normal poops and no more painful gas and congestion. 😭

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you’ll need to pump a little on the side not nursed on until supply gets under control.
      You can definitely do an elimination diet but in my experience it’s usually from Forceful letdown/over supply. Doctors don’t seem to often agree or even understand a FL/OS. It has the same symptoms as a food allergy. There will even be traces of blood in baby’s stool in both situations. Doctors will test baby’s stool and call it an allergy but only true allergy testing will determine an allergy.
      The video here is the 3rd in a series of. Here’s the 3 part playlist. The 1st video talks about the signs and the 2nd one will best explain what you need to know.
      In the first couple of weeks postpartum, most moms have a forceful letdown but if it lasts past 1 month, you probably have the condition of FL/OS.
      This condition will always need to be kept in check. It can easily get out of hand. If you have this condition, you’ll have it with every baby but every baby will handle it differently.
      Check out these other videos and let me know what questions you have ❤️
      Forceful Letdown and Oversupply
      th-cam.com/play/PLbqc4bXQcbyUzyNxG-w7tBtKLWA3NpzLe.html

  • @amywinlayc9047
    @amywinlayc9047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My baby boy is fussy and spit up lots at 6 weeks and I have been pumping after each feeds to make sure milks are out and also for the freezer stash… please help… I don’t want to end my breastfeeding journey

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Doing extra pumping makes it worse. Here is my 3 part video playlist on FL/OS. The first one help you to determine if you have it. The second one will be the one that will help you most in learning what to do to control it. (The 3rd one is this one that you’ve already seen)
      Having this condition can be harder than having a low supply. It takes constant work to keep it under control but you can do it 🥰. Let me know if you have questions after you watch the videos ❤️
      th-cam.com/play/PLbqc4bXQcbyUzyNxG-w7tBtKLWA3NpzLe.html

  • @sumonthwe4350
    @sumonthwe4350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have forceful let down and even with kind of empty breast, when baby sucks the breast, milk came out and spray her face and she started crying. I tried not to pump very often but I feel engorged and very uncomfortable. My daughter is 3 weeks old and she struggles taking the breast. She bites my nipple, pulling off that makes my nipple crack. It did happen to my first daughter too. I try laid back breastfeeding position but it doesn’t seems to help her. I don’t know what should I do at that point

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      So sorry mommy 😢. Having a forceful letdown is a difficult. You will need to always work to control it. Have you tried block feeding? Here is a different video of mine that will explain the main things to work on. It will explain more on block feeding.
      You’ll have to work slowly towards controlling your supply. Minimal pumping and stimulation but trying to avoid becoming engorged.
      Milk is made while you nurse or pump. That’s why, it’s still a problem if you’re breasts feel empty. The full feeling is engorgement. You’ll need to try to feel empty as much as possible. You’ll still have lots of milk ❤️
      Here’s that other video
      th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

  • @michelleberdugo9882
    @michelleberdugo9882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I decrease my supply will it help with the forecfull letdown?

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      How old is baby? Have you been pumping extra to store? What problems is it causing?

  • @pinecone4166
    @pinecone4166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello
    I have a forceful letdown and there is higher weight gain in my baby..
    Is high weight gain an issue of concern..he is gaining 38grams per day

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Higher weight gain is usually fine. Baby usually evens out after a bit. Average weight gain from 1 to 4 months is 144grams to 241 grams a week.

  • @alaaraslan1990
    @alaaraslan1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I have forceful letdown, my baby arches her back, bites and pull off a lot while breastfeeding, she also gets gasy and fussy but thanks to God my breast is fine it doesn't feel uncomfortable for me. My baby girl latches hardly for only 5 to 7 minutes,, sometimes I force her to do more or re-breastfeed her again after an hour because I worry that she is not getting hind milk

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That does sound like a forceful letdown. If so, when you have a forceful letdown/oversupply, you would be making it worse by forcing her to eat more (or if you’re doing extra pumping). When you make yourself produce more milk, you’ll make even more foremilk.
      I have 3 videos in on Forceful letdown, did you see the other two? I’ll link them here for you.
      How old is baby? Most moms have a bit of a forceful letdown in the first 2 weeks but then it gets better.
      How many wet diapers is she having every 24 hours? You’ll know that she’s getting enough to eat if she has 6 or more wet diapers every 24 hours.

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/DWKbWe1xHd8/w-d-xo.html

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This one will explain the condition the best. th-cam.com/video/dzK8HxopoX0/w-d-xo.html

  • @siddhimorde573
    @siddhimorde573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My baby starts breast feeding n suddenly cry and get back n but I don’t pump my baby drink for longer time few days ago now he could not take breastfeed 😢

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      How old is baby?
      He won’t breastfeed at all now?

    • @siddhimorde573
      @siddhimorde573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marycahillclc he is 3 and half month
      He did but whenever he starts breast feeding milk supply get fast n he starts crying
      I can’t see my baby he’s crying for milk
      Then I make him sleep once he sleep then I give him feed. So he breastfeed in sleep very well

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@siddhimorde573 That sounds like a nursing strike. It can be hard to get baby back to the breast but you can do it.
      Watch this video, then let me know if that helps and if you have any questions th-cam.com/video/qU-U0IDMHqY/w-d-xo.html

  • @frostyk1371
    @frostyk1371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is making me want to quit trying to breastfeed these twins. 😒

    • @marycahillclc
      @marycahillclc  ปีที่แล้ว

      Multiples can defined be a challenge. Tell me what’s going on. How old are they and what are your struggles?