Andy Kirkpatrick's "Down" shows the super munter with the strands clipped inside the carabiner. I think the idea is that with the unclipped strands, there is a possibility of the super collapsing into a standard munter if mishandled. If the initial munter is not enough friction, I could see a scenario where someone loses control - especially since there is no backup for this. He also shows a version that uses a second carabiner to help with the modification of an initial munter. pretty neat!
I was thinking the same thing about needing to clip the strands for the super munter. Glad I wasn’t imagining things. Will give it a try the way it’s demonstrated in this video as well the next time I get a chance.
I've seen that the screw gate can be unscrewed by the rope when doing it that way, so you could face the gate the other direction to make it safer. That is primarily for the standard Munther so might be okay here but worth considering, since it's depending on where the loose strands end up
You can reclip… you have you have ti tap dance around the strands significantly more to do that… but definitely can “officially finish” the super munter
@@pierpaolocirrottola4254 the contact patch is moving down the length of both ropes. It’s a different kind of rubbing then two perpendicular ropes and no one spot is being rubbed. I said rub too much and I don’t like it
Try tying a munter on a munter and see what happens. You will go nowhere because you've created a clove hitch. The super munter is just one extra wrap, kind of like half a munter if that makes sense.
That’s a good ability to learn in case you don’t have your belay on you
“Milk the munter”
Andy Kirkpatrick's "Down" shows the super munter with the strands clipped inside the carabiner. I think the idea is that with the unclipped strands, there is a possibility of the super collapsing into a standard munter if mishandled. If the initial munter is not enough friction, I could see a scenario where someone loses control - especially since there is no backup for this. He also shows a version that uses a second carabiner to help with the modification of an initial munter. pretty neat!
What a great book!
I was thinking the same thing about needing to clip the strands for the super munter. Glad I wasn’t imagining things.
Will give it a try the way it’s demonstrated in this video as well the next time I get a chance.
I've seen that the screw gate can be unscrewed by the rope when doing it that way, so you could face the gate the other direction to make it safer. That is primarily for the standard Munther so might be okay here but worth considering, since it's depending on where the loose strands end up
like a super fronter munter for the punter
why don't just use the blake's hitch
I think you forgot to clip those brake strands once more in order to have super munter.
You can reclip… you have you have ti tap dance around the strands significantly more to do that… but definitely can “officially finish” the super munter
With two ropes just a munter does okay with me, super is too much friction for me atleast and I only use on single strand
@@nathanwilson3185 good to know what works for sure
Should you use a third hand? (Hollow block, etc.) when rapping a Munter or Super?
Or is it just classically another option for redundancy?
Munters really mess up your rope
What is your alternative?
@@Nickname006triple friction wrap
@@carloscharliecaudillo4683I agree 100% but that also twists the hell out of your rope too.
@@stephenviggiano1610... radio for rescue 😮
Are you left handed? I normally hold the break strand rappeling on my right side, do I want to do the mirror image of this?
Great stuff
Only in emergency because this system destroying the rope
i was thinking about the top strands that he is wrapping on top of the munter
rope on rope friction scenario
@@pierpaolocirrottola4254 the contact patch is moving down the length of both ropes. It’s a different kind of rubbing then two perpendicular ropes and no one spot is being rubbed.
I said rub too much and I don’t like it
Mezzo Barcaiolo
How without D lock ???
Never run your rope on the gate side .....only the spine
Did anybody knows that Werner Munter ist still alive?
Im a tree guy. If you’re already usimg two ropes like that id just use a blakes hitch. Perfectly fine on the rope just dont go really fast
Those pants are looking a little baggie.
How in the hell do you climb when your pants are that tight?
I think all of them are stretchy
Thought a super munter was a munter on top of a munter
Effectively that is correct… I couldn’t show all sides of the hitch at once but you basically have a munter on the back and front of the carabiner
Try tying a munter on a munter and see what happens. You will go nowhere because you've created a clove hitch. The super munter is just one extra wrap, kind of like half a munter if that makes sense.
If you go to fast the rope-to-rope can burn it. Not only does it destroy the rope, but it.can be very dangerous. Use an 8 and a carabiner at least..
What happened to just plain old rappelling?