A new way to tie the Munter than the way I learned. Thoroughly enjoy upgrading my methods and seeing alternate ways to accomplish the same task. Great preso!
Thanks for posting this video! I was having a really hard time consistently getting my munter hitches oriented correctly until watching this/changing how I’m tying them.
Great video! Don’t know if anyone has commented on your munter mule, but a half hitch is not the mule? The proper tie off is the munter mule with overhand knot around the rope(MMO). Thanks
Thank you. I appreciate the comment. I actually studied Adventure Education as a second major, teach mental health skills now, and spent the last 5 years as a trainer for my county's rescue squad, so I guess it comes with practice. I'm glad to hear you are looking for better ways. Thanks.
When you made the Super Munter the rope was pressing against the gate lock. Is this acceptable or should an effort be made to ensure the working end is always opposite the gate?
Great question! In this case, I was showing how to add friction during a rappel or lower, where you would be starting with a single munter. In that case you wouldn't be able to switch it around when going to a super mubter so the working end doesn't touch the gate. I'm demonstrating using an auto locking where this would be allowable. If you know you will be using a super munter from the start then by all means set it up reverse and keep the rope away from the gate.
True. Many rappel techniques do, but that's a good idea to add that in a future video. There's always so much that could be said and included, and some things just need to be cut. Thanks for the comment.
Does this work for going up or down vertically, like using it as backup when going down an old ladder? I was thinking about getting a rescue 8 but this looks pretty good. I’m a noobie trying to learn. Thanks
Neither a munter or a rescue 8 are meant for going up. If you just need a backup in case the ladder fails I would recommend a prussik instead (I also have a video about those). I suppose the best recommendation is a new ladder. 😀 You might want to watch my rappelling for beginners too and practice before you need to truly rely on it. If the ladder breaks you would also need a way to.get off the prussik so I would certainly carry a second so you can move up or down the rope. Let me know if you have more questions.
@@AdventuresInReach after further research I have found the prusik tutorials 😅 would it be a good idea to use a munter/ rescue 8 down and then use the double prusik to go back up? Or would you think it’s a better idea to just get a descender ascender? Thanks for the reply 👊
In rope rescue we use one type to control the lower or raise and one as a backup. The backup can be a prussik in both directions. I would recommend ketogenic it simple and using a prussik going up and down since it's a backup. The issue with using a belay device like an 8 or using a munter is that if you fall off the ladder and aren't actively hanging on or if you get bumped, you reach to grab something, or your hands gets jarred off you, will fall anyway. The prussik will just catch either way.
@@AdventuresInReach I saw a video of a guy using an ascender with a foot harness, and a grigri (for going up.) it didn’t look super complex but if I used the ascender with that foot harness, a griri, and a prussik as backup.. would that work? I know the grigri is good for rappelling and ascending with the ascender. (If you have seen any tutorials for a good simplistic setup, I’d like to do some more research) I’m still deciding on the equipment I need to get. thank you.
A belayer can use it to pull tension when belaying someone who is climbing up. However, the Munter hitch really isn't for ascending a rope. You wouldn't be able to ascent with tension on this knot, so you would have to climb and pull in the slack, which is not a safe option. There are much better options for ascending rope...which I'm currently planning a video to demonstrate. The most basic, straight-forward method is to use two prussiks. (tying prusiks: th-cam.com/video/fBxyzkT_dpM/w-d-xo.html) You would use one for your waist and one for your feet to push you up.
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@@AdventuresInReach dont know about that guy, but Im not a fan of rappelling on munters. They wear the rope heavily against itself in a rappel, and id prefer to avoid it. Belaying is fine, since theres not as much force on it
A new way to tie the Munter than the way I learned. Thoroughly enjoy upgrading my methods and seeing alternate ways to accomplish the same task. Great preso!
Thanks for posting this video! I was having a really hard time consistently getting my munter hitches oriented correctly until watching this/changing how I’m tying them.
Awesome. That can certainly be a challenge. Thanks for watching.
Great video! Don’t know if anyone has commented on your munter mule, but a half hitch is not the mule? The proper tie off is the munter mule with overhand knot around the rope(MMO). Thanks
Double munter and super munter are also great when using a 6mm RAD line. Those things are slick and thin, and can make for a spicy rappel.
You bet. The more turns-- the more stopping power.
Very clear and as someone who has started to teach others your explanations have given me a better approach to showing how to do the munter hitches.
Thank you. I appreciate the comment. I actually studied Adventure Education as a second major, teach mental health skills now, and spent the last 5 years as a trainer for my county's rescue squad, so I guess it comes with practice. I'm glad to hear you are looking for better ways. Thanks.
good. you are good. this is korea. i am a firefighter
Thanks for the comment from Korea! ...and thanks for your public service.
Be sure to use a prusik backup.
You bet. A backup should be the norm.
clear, precise, easy understanding, thanks!
Thank you. I hope it's useful. Thanks for the comment.
Great video! Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Best instruction video! By a bunch!
Wow, thanks! I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Well done.
Thank you. I have several more knot videos on the channel if you are interested.
When you made the Super Munter the rope was pressing against the gate lock. Is this acceptable or should an effort be made to ensure the working end is always opposite the gate?
Great question! In this case, I was showing how to add friction during a rappel or lower, where you would be starting with a single munter. In that case you wouldn't be able to switch it around when going to a super mubter so the working end doesn't touch the gate. I'm demonstrating using an auto locking where this would be allowable. If you know you will be using a super munter from the start then by all means set it up reverse and keep the rope away from the gate.
Can you tie off a super Munter the same way you tie off the standard?
Yes. The mule hitch works in both scenarios.
Maybe add that Munter hitch twists the rope as you rappel.
True. Many rappel techniques do, but that's a good idea to add that in a future video. There's always so much that could be said and included, and some things just need to be cut. Thanks for the comment.
Does this work for going up or down vertically, like using it as backup when going down an old ladder? I was thinking about getting a rescue 8 but this looks pretty good. I’m a noobie trying to learn. Thanks
Neither a munter or a rescue 8 are meant for going up. If you just need a backup in case the ladder fails I would recommend a prussik instead (I also have a video about those). I suppose the best recommendation is a new ladder. 😀 You might want to watch my rappelling for beginners too and practice before you need to truly rely on it. If the ladder breaks you would also need a way to.get off the prussik so I would certainly carry a second so you can move up or down the rope. Let me know if you have more questions.
@@AdventuresInReach after further research I have found the prusik tutorials 😅 would it be a good idea to use a munter/ rescue 8 down and then use the double prusik to go back up? Or would you think it’s a better idea to just get a descender ascender? Thanks for the reply 👊
In rope rescue we use one type to control the lower or raise and one as a backup. The backup can be a prussik in both directions. I would recommend ketogenic it simple and using a prussik going up and down since it's a backup. The issue with using a belay device like an 8 or using a munter is that if you fall off the ladder and aren't actively hanging on or if you get bumped, you reach to grab something, or your hands gets jarred off you, will fall anyway. The prussik will just catch either way.
Another option could be a mechanical ascender or grigri...or a full rope setup for tree climbing, but that's a bit more complicated.
@@AdventuresInReach I saw a video of a guy using an ascender with a foot harness, and a grigri (for going up.) it didn’t look super complex but if I used the ascender with that foot harness, a griri, and a prussik as backup.. would that work? I know the grigri is good for rappelling and ascending with the ascender.
(If you have seen any tutorials for a good simplistic setup, I’d like to do some more research) I’m still deciding on the equipment I need to get. thank you.
What HMS carabiner is that ?the big one ?
If you wanted to ascend the rope, could you use a muntor hitch?
A belayer can use it to pull tension when belaying someone who is climbing up. However, the Munter hitch really isn't for ascending a rope. You wouldn't be able to ascent with tension on this knot, so you would have to climb and pull in the slack, which is not a safe option. There are much better options for ascending rope...which I'm currently planning a video to demonstrate. The most basic, straight-forward method is to use two prussiks. (tying prusiks: th-cam.com/video/fBxyzkT_dpM/w-d-xo.html) You would use one for your waist and one for your feet to push you up.
I would suggest learning Prussic and Kleimheist if you want to use rope/cord for ascending rope. That or of course mechanical devices like ascenders
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Do you not like munter hitches?
@@AdventuresInReach dont know about that guy, but Im not a fan of rappelling on munters. They wear the rope heavily against itself in a rappel, and id prefer to avoid it. Belaying is fine, since theres not as much force on it