KTM Superduke 1290 GT vs Super Adventure R : Which one is BEST?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video i'm talking about all the differences between a 2021 Superduke GT and a 2021 Super Adventure R. I will give you my honest opinion and take you through the most important differences between these motorcycles.
Hope to help you decide if you wanna buy a ktm superduke 1290 GT or the Super Adventure R or Super Adventure S.
The suspension on the GT can be electronically set , the SAR does not have that.
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Awesome video. Exactly what what I needed.
Thanks for the info bro. Now Im lovin the super adventure r.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing awesome video ❤🙏🙏🙏🇸🇬
Great review!!!
your so funny mate i love your videos 😂
Wait, I'm 36 and have a gen3 SDR, and a 1190 ADV-R (soon to be replaced by a 1290 SAR when available in the states). I prefer the Adventure bike because of it's flexibility to do and be fun at every style of riding. I only wish its motor was more aggressive like the super duke.
You need a SAR to go out and play , no boundaries , take dirt roads , pack your bags and spend 600km riding in one go like i did today. The SDR is just a beast you also need in your garage when you wanna go out an play. Pop wheelies and ride really sporty 😁. That’s when the SDR is most fun , when you really give it some gas.
Would be awesome to have the engine of the R under a SAR , but i think it would be to much roughness for what that bike is made for 😁.
Very good!❤️❤️❤️
Really interesting, appreciate the effort (plus the humour!).
Just sat on the GT and found it not too bad. Slightly more comfy than my FJR 1300.
Adventure was tall and I couldn't flat foot. If I bought it I'd feel like I was missing out on power...
Argh! Decisions, decisions...
The 890 adventure is lower , and the Norden 901 was perfect for me. I could almost flat foot those. The Adventure R i'm also on my tippie toes even with the lowered heated seat mounted. But i really miss massive amounts of power on the 800-901 version when i'm having fun onroad 😁
I bought an S a year ago. I took it to the grocery store today and on the way back I wondered how much more flickable a Super Duke would be. Yeah, I'm spoiled. I know. Anyhow that led me to your video. I like your presentation style.
I didn't realize that the GT weighed so much more than the Super Duke. Going from the GT to the SAS isn't nearly as much. But things like the compliant suspension, adaptive cruise control and split radiators do add up. All in all I think I'm good with what I've got.
The SAR's are sporty Cadillac's if you ask me 😁
Great review and comparison !!! I'm in the market and have the dilemma. Brain says SAS heart say GT .... 🙂
Great vid. Watched one of your videos yesterday. Enjoyed it a lot so now I'm subscribed!.
Thx bud! How’s your channel doing?
@@LifeofSmokey awesome man. Well slow still looking for time and also places to make some content 😃 . But I'm saving up for a good cam then I'll run full-time again. I enjoy your videos.
The Adventure R is a beautiful bike. I also like the aggressive and sporty design and look of the GT and I was surprised by the superior wind protection that you’ve experienced on the Adventure R in comparison with the GT. I also fitted a Puig windshield on my SDGT but it isn’t so dark it is just Smokey 😂. It looks better in my opinion. You’re talking about comfort and there, the adventure wins big time.
I don’t go with a bike like this on off road because I don’t wanna drop it and because my skills are poor . But I like gravel roads and soft off road trails where I could use a bike like the Adventure R but in fact I don’t go off-road with the GT. It simply is not suited for that kind of work.
After this video, I certainly will test the Adventure R. Thanks for an excellent quick comparison between the two bikes👌
Gt! Just waiting for my new one coming next week.
How do you like your GT after 1year?
@@forestmotoadventures I am fully satisfied with this machine 😊. I just added gel to the sits to make them more comfortable. 👍🏼
Beautiful
feeling that, i am also about to switch the GT for an Advanture S
Hi. Thanks for the video. Can you tell me what windscreen you have purchased for the GT?
The big one is from PUIG 😊
Like your style
I went the other way: Adventure S >>>>SD GT. Had to buy some 30mm ride/22mm rearward bar extensions. It's good!.
The video I was waiting ! And god damm that GT is gorgeous! I’m in the same spot , need to buy a new bike and I’m in doubt between the GT and the new super adventure … my heart says the first one , but the brain says the second one :D (just because of the comfort ) .
Decisions !
Good video 👍
Did a 600km almost non stop ride today with my best friend on a Superduke R , offroad parts like really testing it out. I’m not even tired when i got home , no pain in my wrists or knees. You can sit back on the SAR seat and put your feet on the crashbars! So comfy haha. And most important is my ass!!! That GT would put me in lots of but pain after 300km , did almost 600 on the SAR and it’s like a 2 which i consider normal 😁.
The only and really only thing is that the R is higher because of it’s offroad capability and it’s a little harder to manoeuvre at a standstill. But as far from that 👌❤️
@@LifeofSmokey you are making my decision a lot harder :D thanks for the input !
@@jofr4 That’s what i’m here for haha. But the GT will be the most brutal between the two by far , the only option is to buy the whole segment 😂🙈
@@jofr4 I would also recommend the adventure. The GT is great but the sporty seating makes you alot more tired at the end of the day. The adventure is such a comfort increase.. you wont regret picking the adventure over the GT
@@Kevin97587 yeah , you’re right , but I guess I’ll wait for the new gen of the GT, maybe it will be more comfortable :D ( finger crossed )
I brought new my 1290s 2 months ago and still own my GT model. My reason is for more comfort, being older than you handle bar reach is no problem, but the rear set foot pegs on the GT is painful now for me. The S model with the seat in the high position is perfect and makes for a great long ride with no knee pain. The difference is like a SUV to a sports car. Love the new switch gear and screen. The final grear ratio sprocket size makes the S feel so much faster of the line lifting the front wheel with ease. Yes the engine is much refined than the GT.
That’s just about how i see it! I would love to have the GT as well as the SAR. But i also have an R so pretty sure the GT would not be used anymore 😅. Thanks for the feedback 😊
@@LifeofSmokey I also have a 950 SE for my dirt needs and just took part in the KTM Rallye here in Australia
@@jackdaniels4888 that sounds like a lot of fun 😁. I have just started my big adventure bike journey as i never would have thought it would be for me. But as i get older i like adventure more , as racing on public roads with millions of cars all over the place 😁
I have a 2019 KTM 1290 SAR. I like my bike, and for around town fun, I have a Ducati 950SP
Saludos desde Perú, me gustan tus vídeos son muy detalados.
I did swap this summer from 1190 adv r to a 1290 gt, i can agree that the adventure are mory comfy, if i could i would have both. But for drivning experience and driving with friends on curvy roads the gt is so much more fun and faster in corners. Hasnt tried the sas maybe its the perfect thing but for now i really enjoy my gt :)
I would love the GT it looks smaller but still rocking,
I hit subscribed after "wheelie cool"...lol
Thanks Smokey. In a previous video you showed the SAR did 8.2l/100km. Quite unimpressive. What’s that figure for the GT?
We did a 600km ride today , it did 5.6 on average so not that bad 😁. My friend brought his Superduke R 2019 and he did a little bit worse then i did 😊
@@LifeofSmokey much better.
superduke 1290 gt is cool bike its like street racer bike and adventure r is for more offroading good comparison video.
The SAR also lacks the semi adaptive suspension the SAS has. But oh boy, the GT is infinitely more sexy. But in the end it's not the looks that carry you around. Guess we don't have to talk about which one sounded better :D
Hey Smokey, I’m thinking about getting the GT instead of my smaller Z900, just for some additional comfort for commuting, longer roads, but not loosing the sportsfactor. What I’m curious about, how happy are you with the PUIG screen? Does it make a lot of difference?
Yeah the puig is a big difference with the original one. But stock the GT is also pretty good 😊
One more question then, i just saw your vlog on the SAS, SAS or the GT? You did sell the GT after all, or will you get a new one?
Sounds and looks like you're mostly describing the same differences between my drz400s with 21/18inch wheels and my cbr500r with 17/17inch wheels. CBR is the 'faster' bike and has a very similar riding position to the GT. Around corners the DRZ feels much nicer and alot more fun than a normal road sport touring kind of bike.. (also has an identical body position to the SDAR you have there). If it wasn't for the lack of fuel tank capacity and the lack of fuel gauge, then I'd choose the DRZ everytime for longer journeys..
Are the adventure S’s available where you are? I’m in the US and we do not have them yet. Sept.3rd. I may have to wait until spring of 22. I’m in Michigan so riding is tough until April/May. I enjoy the videos. Glad you didn’t break anything on your get off.
Hey John , yeah corona caused some troubles with the US market as i heard. So not delivered over there just yet. I believe the 22 models will come so no worries , it’s worth the wait , so much fun 😁👌
I currently have a 15 SDR and love the engine, so much fun! I’m starting to ride some off road and think the S will fit the bill. I’m excited to give one a ride, hopefully they’ll allow a test ride. I have a bad back and my super duke is the perfect riding position. I’m concerned the S may be too upright. Thanks for the response. Are you going to review a S?
@@johndemmink3539 I always thought sitting up straight would be better for the back. Good thing i’m not a doctor 😅. I really really love my SDR and how brutal it is , just keeps giving me goosebumps everytime i get on. But we spent about 3 hours on the highway yesterday , some offroad parts over rocks and so on. In total about 600km in just one day. My friend joined me on his SDR and his butt was in a lot of pain , his wrists to from the more forward position and his knees to 😂. Maybe because we are 36 years old i don’t know but i got off really fresh and could even do some more riding 😁. I do get lots of questions about the SAS so i might ask for that one next week 😊
@@LifeofSmokey I’m 63 and love that torque! Last year rode to, 2 wheeled riders “wild and wonderful weekend” in WV, about 600 miles each way from my house, no issues at all. I have the SDR comfort seat and it is perfect. Somehow bending slightly forward takes the load off my lower back. Thanks for all the feedback. Take care.
Mr Smokey, may be make video about career advice so that I can afford to buy them both at the same time.
GT!!!!!!!!!.... with a higher handle bar
but then again it depends on the use/purpose :P
Agree... if I had to choose... SAR... Cornering SAR... Looks - SAR (Not GT).
Bro this bike don't have automatic engine cut of when falls , my Hero Xpulse has this feature when ever your bike falls engine cuts of automatically
I owned a 2016 SDR prior to my 2022 SDR EVO. The two bikes are polar opposites in terms of seating position. The 2016 felt supermoto like, whereas the 2022 feels more track focused.
This is why I haven't rode one yet I'm waiting on the new GT the adventure s probably be my bike of choice all good things come to those who wait 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔I hope 😂😂😂
Going offroad along with street, than an adventure
If your street only the GT
Pretty simple to decide between the 2
Hi, can you do a comparison between the adventure R and adventure S ? Cheers
Spoked wheels , 21inch front wheel , lower windscreen and more stock crash protection with longer suspension travel and more ground clearance. Add a manual adjustable suspension and that's basically the difference 😁.
Saludos desde Colombia
Hey Smokey, what did you mean by - you miss the power of the 890 and 901? I have a Norden 901 with 2K miles on it so far. Is the 901 faster feeling than the 1290? I just wanted to understand what you meant. Thanks!!!
No the 890-901 is not faster , it needs a bit more rpm's to become fast , the 1290's just huge the huge amount of torque to slingshot you forward 😁
@@LifeofSmokey Maybe I just misunderstood. I appreciate your reply and love your videos!
The windscreen in the GT is not so nice...but anyway I think that it will be My next bike after the 890adr I have now
I loved my 2017 SA and did not get along with my GT. The GT was uncomfortable and too raw. The SA was smoother, more comfortable and I thought handle just as well. I am now without a KTM and own a 2021 BMW GS 40th ann. The BMW is an excellent machine but nothing provides the fun factor like the KTM's.....I may add a 2022 SA to the arsenal!
Couldn’t agree more Chris!
I've been riding an 1190 Adventure for six years. My previous bike was a 990 SMT, which I loved, but when I read the review of the 1190 in the January, 2014 issue of Cycle World, and saw the objective acceleration times, I couldn't resist. They reported: 0-30 (mph), 1.2; 0-60, 2.8; 0-90, 5.0; and a 10.68 quarter @ 129, and a top speed of 151.
KTM claimed 148 HP and a dry weigh of 462. More recent reviews, of all bikes, don't report objectively measured acceleration. My 1190 is so f**king fast, which I love, but experience very selectively, that I have trouble understanding comments like, "I have the GT because I enjoy (or need) the extra power."
I assume that all the 1290s are faster than my bike, or should be, but do we know this empirically?
Great review, by the way.
1190 owner also 💪💪. Best bike I've owned always come of it with a smile. Someday it will kill me 😂😂
Great review....loved 1290R. How much does it cost??
Well I sold my SDR 2020, was pain in everythere...I wanted do some touring , but later understood what mission immpossible. :D So GT more comfort or Adventure? :)
Adventure S is way more comfort as the GT by far. Adventure R has some extra stuff for offroad. 😁👌
Add some Rox bar risers on the Super Duke, way more comfortable!
Both beautiful machines 👍 (Tip, a detail: you are not 5,9 'inches', an inch is een duim, you are 5,9 'feet' or 5 feet and 9 inches)🙃 (I think 😄)
I watched the video, and the downside of the Duke GT seems to be the seat, but the groin side is too wide and uncomfortable. what do you think?
Both seats are not that comfy but very sporty to be honest 😁
Well... I tried the SAS and the GT and compared. My impression is that the GT is far superior for on road fast riding. Much more precise and more options in out and mid-turn of corners. And the way the engine delivers the GT just rips more. So both engine and chassis is better for on road sporty riding in my honest opinion. And for active on road riding I got a slight pain in my wrist with the SAS. Probably because I like half a butt on seat and hang slightly over bars, and results in get some not so favorable pressure points on outside palm/wrist. With longer stretches of twisties this can be a little strenuous. But for off road it's another story. The SAS put it self neatly in between the SAR and the GT. The GT is absolutely NOT for off road but no problem with some occasional smooth gravel road. I ride mostly on paved twisties, though sometimes bumpy, but the pleasure off road capabilities is sure tempting. There is some tricky suspension magic going on with the SAS so on bumpy tarmac road it could be a contender for the GT with a tad longer and slightly fancier suspension. But for fast sporty riding I still think the GTs with its adequate suspension travel combined with engine and chassis will win even when tarmac is a bit on the bumpy side. I have lots of gravel roads near by and paved twisties. So I'm still undecided but I'm pretty sure it will be KTM :-) The ratio between performance/price is very good me think. Decisions.... :-D
Was the SAS the new low-tank edition? I hear it handles better.
@@tomtraynor5384 The new SAS with split low tank. It handle certainly better at lower speed. We need to differentiate between low and high speed handling. In high speed active twisty riding the GT definitely wins in my honest opinion.
@@danelofsson3754 Enjoying my GT but hopeful for a GT V.3 which has the current SDR improvements.
"Can you hear the difference? I cant really hear the difference" Well bud thats cuz you removed the DB killer designed to protect your ears from extended damage and probably have been riding it without correct ear protection....
If used for every day, plus travel, which one is the best; GT, R, S,...?
ADV bikes are like SUVs, they do everything well, comfortably. Once you have an ADV, you’ll understand why so many owners say, if I only could have one bike, this would be it.
wheely cool.. hahahaha excellent
Wow, that crash!
Hi all, i just sold my BMW R1250GSA, now i want to buy a KTM, but i am thinking of the Superduke GT. Would this be a good option? (Never had KTM) thanks 🏍
If you are coming from a R1250GSA the Superduke GT is gonna feel very uncomfortable and raw...It's a Superduke R with extra fenders on it don't forget that :-).
@@LifeofSmokey i had the BMW S1000R, S1000XR, GS, GSA, but the Superduke GT seems something new and fun, i want some power but also some comfort… but i dont want a BMW RT 😅 i loved my GSA but everyone is driving that, and its also a quiet expensive bike
1290 adv R all day long
GT 😁
I don't know why I just have a bad feeling about this motorcycle the KTM 1290 Super Duke I mean I just have a feeling the quality sucks you're going to have a lot of problems with this motorcycle KTMs have a reputation for being garbage I want to like it for the performance but I'm not a motorcycle mechanic LOL Japanese bikes are bulletproof I just wish they would make one that's as exciting as this bike.
But how does the GT compare with the new adventure s 🤔
Simple , the GT is a Superduke R with fenders and they changed the gearing just a tiny bit.
The Adventure S is just a smooth fast Cadillac on wheels with a more upright position. The GT has a more aggressive style of riding.
wrong compaison should be the S version compred to duke NOT the adventure R
put the gt exhaust on the adventure.
Doesn't fit , the flens of the SAR is wayyyy bigger 😁
Nod in Australia
4once even muggenziften ;) : GT heeft 175 PK (ipv 170) en 145 Nm torque, die 5 paarden geef ik niet zomaar af ;)
Volledig gelijk!! Laatste dagen veel te veel KTM cijfers gezien dat ik er wel is wat naast zit haha. 🙈
Hello ,pour moi la Ktm adventure R et S idéal serai ,pour un plus belle esthétique ,avec le réservoir ,la ligne d’échappement de la GT et la puissance de la super duke R V 3😊pour la route je prend la super duke R 😂
What are the differences... mmmm let me think. Oh year, adventure bike -- vs -- touring .
Would have been better if there is less drama...its good otherwise
Target fixation
Wat was je aan het roepen als je crashte ? pardon pardon ?🤣🤣🤣
Foute boel 🙈
@@LifeofSmokey 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ja veel geluk gehad
In assoluto Super Duke gt...
I can"t take the horrible background music.
Next time no more music 😊👌
Greated hips🤣🤦
however,stop trying to be funny it just isn't working for you.
Those are some facts 😂👌
wat een vergelijk ahahahahaha maar alle 2 beer van een motor...