@@1362pc Plus in terms of the opposition we've had to come up against, this Indian team had the best record and was the most complete team in terms of opponents. Insane victory, our greatest ever WC final because the opposition WERE so good. Insane.
Well in 1987 they played with a red ball. That was also a great win because Australia was near the bottom of the pile back then and in absolute doldrums. This year while we weren't expected to win it, we were always in the mix.
Yes l thought when we were 3/47 l didn't give Australia much chance at winning the game. All throughout the world cup India were so dominant and it seemed as if we had just scraiped our way into the final. In front of a130,000 screaming Indians l just thought it's too much to ask for. When Labashane came in, l was hoping we could at least get to 100 without loosing another wicket. Then when the 100 partnership came up l thought where going to loos a wicket soon, but no they just batted on and on. Then reaching 200 runs, being still only three wickets down with plenty of overs in hand, I thought where going to win this. What an increadable innings by Head and Labashane, Australia's ability to dry up India scoring boundaries was increadable and made the difference.
This may be the Greatest Cricket World Cup win. Imagine 90k+ opposition fans. In their own country. The opponent won all 10/10 matches one sided. You were down 2 matches in 2. Gave away 125-0 vs SL and that one Warner catch started the comeback, wins were grinded out. Kudos to this so called "weakest" (?) Australian team.
So far i believed 2003 Wcup was Aussies biggest Wcup win but this 2023 wcup win i think wud be the greatest wcup win by any team, with so many factors as u mentioned above were against the winning team.
You’re right - Pat Cummins saying, “I’m going to take the ‘risky’ move because it’s the right move and I’ll accept full responsibility for the outcome,” despite his constant criticism from ‘legends’ and the media is stunningly brave. He leads from the front, makes the right decisions and takes accountability - the epitome of a leader!
Yep absolutely right. I for one did not think Cummins should have been Captain, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Kudos to him for having the courage and taking the risk. Paid off amazingly 🏏
Well done boys, it’s been a great World Cup for you. Really enjoyed Geoff’s commentary too. Not sure I’d have stuck with the later part of the group stage if this pod wasn’t dropping every day. Reckon you’ve earned a beer and a sit down.
India literally gifted the match after Rohit Sharma got out, but getting Travis head soon was crucial ,but so many ball went past Head without any luck for Bumrah..but Head took the risks rightly and it paid off.. Including an outstanding catch.Sky totally flopped ,surely could have scored another 30-40runs ,say 280 was a winning score on this pitch but it was not to be and Aus win very easily.. Kudos Australia,6th time ,best cricket team ever .. What a great year for Australia,test champions,world cup winner,ashes retained,best time to retire 🎉🎉👍
Saying India would've won 9 times out of 10 is a bunch of crap. Australia built to that game playing through adversity and had become the far more in form and resilient team. The Australian team had class and experience all over the park, at least the equal of India. Turns out the Indian team had plenty of weaknesses just waiting for a class team like Australia to exploit.
The slow death of the last 50 runs was brilliant to watch.... hearing the Indian commentators saying the only reason they lost was because of the bad 'conditions' they copped was even better...
As an Indian, I'm very glad that it's Aussies who lifted the trophy. BCCI must realize that bringing religion, caste, hate into sports will never yield the intended results. I don't think it's a coincidence or ICC's plan that the match happened in Gujrat.
Indians, barring the usual Rohit - Kohli - Bumrah, failed to perform on the big day. For Indian fans its a pretty familiar script. It's often the performance of the next lot decides it. In India's case Gill, Iyer, Siraj, kuldeep, SKY all failed. Shami saved his worst for this day. In contrast, Head & Marnus step up in their first CWC Final. Aussies have in them what nobody has, as far as cricket world cups go.
We need to give younger players a chance. We need some southpaws in the team. We need to find somebody who can consistently bowl 150+ and a wrist spinner who can flight the ball. We need a change of guard.
I thought Cummins's constant bowling changes during the middle overs were brilliant. He refused to allow the Indian batters to settle and pick off 5 or 6 an over instead of 3 or 4. Someone would bowl a tight over and he'd pull them off anyway because he wanted to keep giving the batters different looks. A complaint I had about his captaincy and general approach in England was that it felt like he was sitting back and allowing England to go after the game. As far as I'm concerned, we shouldn't be allowing England to dictate the course of a cricket match. But in the two knockout games here, he took the initiative with his bowling changes. I wanted us to bat first but I said to my brother early on that I liked how Cummins was looking to take control, even if it didn't work. It also says a lot about who he is as a cricketer that his best performance with the ball in the tournament came in the final when we needed it most. The dismissal of Kohli wasn't as critical as that catch, but it mattered. I was thinking 280 was par at that point, and they finished 40 shy of it, runs they desperately needed as it meant Labuschagne didn't have to worry early on about his strike rate and could just bat time and wait for conditions to settle.
As 🇮🇳heartbroken but this is Australia greatest World Cup final win against all odds Toss - everyone in India thought how on earth Pat gave batting to India - it’s going to be 2003 reverse outcome with similar batting from Indians like Australia’s did
People really underestimated this aussie side .....i dont know why people kept ignoring the squad that is filled with multiple world championship winning players in different formats
It was a grand win, and a big upset but in the context of Australia's cricket history 1987 was a seminal moment. 1987 remains as Australia's most impactful & unlikely win in the ODI format.
Thank you guys for your fantastic coverage. A terrific mix of analysis and good humoured fun. Your enthusiasm for the game shines through in these podcasts.
Really enjoyed your coverage throughout the tournament, I hadn't heard (consciously) of either Adam or Geoff prior to this competition, pleased I did finally through this WC. This commentary added a depth to understanding and interest that is often missing from long tournaments. Despite the length of tournament, I enjoyed this format and was interested throughout it, as it was still uncertain who would be making semi's until 7th round games. Great work guys!
I don't know if its necessarily our greatest win in terms of the quality of the performance or winning against the odds. However, it is definitely the most memorable and the sweetest victory. Head to head I don't think this team would beat Steve Waugh's 1999 team but this 2023 team definitely are more gracious winners and can stand tall as winning under pressure. If pushed I would say that the 1987 ICC World Cup win was the best ever as they won it when no-one expected them and after years of losing after the retirement of the big three, Australia was suddenly back on top against the odds and all of Alan Border and Bob Simpson's hard work to bring Australia modern cricket was rewarded and Australia loved the team rather than simply loving Border and despairing of the rest.
One of the most entertaining sights in cricket, is the look on Kohli's face when something goes wrong. Thank you for making that happen Aussie & congratulations! 🏏🏆
Actually him not being captain is a major factor they didn't win IMO. About 2/3 through the Australian innings you could see him berating Rohit for not setting a field to save the single and build pressure. After that discussion he changed tactic and Australia found it harder to score but it was too late.
yout not old enough to say it's Australia's greatest world cup win. 1999 world cup was the best I think. closer games more competitive teams. when Pakistan and south Africa were at the best.
1987 mate, also in India. We were just coming out of the cricket wilderness after WSC with some of our best players recently retired and others playing rebel tours and being banned to represent the country. Thats our best victory imo.
It's always a matter of personal opinion as to what the best win is. I think 1987 deserves the prize because we were still scraping along the bottom as a cricket team, the previous summer England had beaten us at home in the Ashes and leathered us in the final of the one-day tri series so for us to go to India and win the World Cup was completely unexpected to say the least. This year's team had plenty of quality and we knew it was possible they could win, although I was never expecting it until the last 60 runs or so! Very little of the 1987 World Cup was on TV here so my personal favourite remains 1999 and the 2 wins over South Africa, highlighted by the semi-final. The final was good fun and ensured those other great memories would remain at the top. This year's win was great and I will remember it with great pleasure. Beating India in their backyard is incredible!
that also kick started the era of dominance with the 1992 cup being a hiccup in between because we'd played too much cricket that summer and were burned out by the time the world cup came around. The West Indies also flopped and they were still a good team then.@@iankearns774
Why India has made cricket it's religion by disregarding it's own sportsperson of other games who have achieved at tough sports at world level. . Cricket mad India cannot be a sporting nation.Cricket is a game of convenience for India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc. Cricket requires skill and a limited amount of fitness is enough to make you world champ. Even fitness standard of the level with pot belly can also become world champs scoring tons. Running between the wickets in your own timing.In batting ball comes to you. If you cannot bowl fast like Brett Lee, become a spinner .Whereas in soccer, basketball, track and field, hockey, Tennis etc you not only need skills, but also enormous amount of speed, stamina, and fitness. OPPONENT STRETCHES YOU IN ALL THESE PARAMETERS. To beat Maradona you have to beat him in his speed, stamina and fitness . So is with Bolt, Micheal Jordon, Micheal Phleps, Nadal, Federer etc. It's neck to neck fight in all these parameters. If infrastructure and money are seen for any games popularity, than why people from India , Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled in England, US and Europe don't play soccer, basketball, track and field tennis, rugby and other games, which are popular there. There also people from India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled from generation play cricket only. Cannot find champs in games like soccer, basketball, track and field etc try to search champs in a lazy game cricket. You talk of Micheal Jordon, Indian will bring cricketer.You talk of Maradona and Pele Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Micheal Phleps. Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Federer and Nadal,Indian will bring cricketer.Even the cricket playing population in India is more than the population of England, Australia, Newzealand, South Africa combined. For these countries cricket is just a game. They are world class in soccer, basketball, track and field, basketball, hockey, volleyball, rugby etc.
Why India has made cricket it's religion by disregarding it's own sportsperson of other games who have achieved at tough sports at world level. . Cricket mad India cannot be a sporting nation.Cricket is a game of convenience for India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc. Cricket requires skill and a limited amount of fitness is enough to make you world champ. Even fitness standard of the level with pot belly can also become world champs scoring tons. Running between the wickets in your own timing.In batting ball comes to you. If you cannot bowl fast like Brett Lee, become a spinner .Whereas in soccer, basketball, track and field, hockey, Tennis etc you not only need skills, but also enormous amount of speed, stamina, and fitness. OPPONENT STRETCHES YOU IN ALL THESE PARAMETERS. To beat Maradona you have to beat him in his speed, stamina and fitness . So is with Bolt, Micheal Jordon, Micheal Phleps, Nadal, Federer etc. It's neck to neck fight in all these parameters. If infrastructure and money are seen for any games popularity, than why people from India , Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled in England, US and Europe don't play soccer, basketball, track and field tennis, rugby and other games, which are popular there. There also people from India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled from generation play cricket only. Cannot find champs in games like soccer, basketball, track and field etc try to search champs in a lazy game cricket. You talk of Micheal Jordon, Indian will bring cricketer.You talk of Maradona and Pele Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Micheal Phleps. Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Federer and Nadal,Indian will bring cricketer.Even the cricket playing population in India is more than the population of England, Australia, Newzealand, South Africa combined. For these countries cricket is just a game. They are world class in soccer, basketball, track and field, basketball, hockey, volleyball, rugby etc.
So much covered so well - thank you again! Just adding an appreciation of Inglis & his Cup-finals-record 5 dismissals (even if mostly the recipient of some great bowling). Half way through the tournament it was looking like the selectors had gotten the Carey flip wrong, but add in his innings vs SA & he's one of the finest in the finals, I reckon.
You two are bloody legends. Thanks as always for the great insights and pop culture references that are in my wheelhouse (although this show was a little short of them)
Ah but Indian won the moral victory. My suggestion is to have a moral victory champions league with only England and India in it. In that way at least one of them would win something. Then the next year the second place team could be champions without actually playing a game. Easy peasy
As a fellow Aussie just want to share from my experience that not all hateful, abusive, toxic comments you get on social media are from Indians, many fake accounts are posing as Indians (I know, so weird)
India fan here Australia were the better team and deserved to win May I ask the hosts to please read Nick houldts article in the telegraph? At what point do the nonstop attacks on Indian fans, their so called silence, lack of sportsmanship, hubris etc start to border on downright racist Why can’t India lose without having its politics, national character, fan base and integrity so relentlessly impugned ? I don’t like narendra modi. But politicians regularly attend World Cup finals, as macron did at the rugby World Cup just a few weeks ago. Why is india singled out for this? As an Indian who lives in the uk, I’m despondent about the loss. But what devastates me is the casually racist ways that journalists in publications like the telegraph write about india and its people
Why is racism always the fallback of the feeble minded? Australians cop the shit when its thrown at us. You people never shut up about sandpaper gate or how you beat us at the Gabba. Own your incompetence, admit the better Team won. I say team because thats how they played. You have the superstars, the cricket gods in your eyes but you dont always play as a team and you rarely acknowledge the winner when you lose. Its your arrogance thats the issue here and not any Australians perceived racism.
Its just media trying to get a story out of anything they can, I think most Australians would feel like me, happy we won but I do feel for Indian fans, it would have been good for India to win, your team is great, the current and future prosperity of cricket is in in India, you guys really love the game, it would have been good for cricket. As long as England didn't win, I would've been happy for any team to win.
@@advitiayanand5974 I am happy we won, a bit sad for you guys but your supporters have trolled the crap out of us since sandpaper gate when its well known you have had players who also cheated. What goes around comes around, its only sport mate. Go hug your missus, kids or parents. Thats far more important than cricket. You will get another chance and when you win it you will enjoy it all the more.
Thanks for a great summary. Not picking Ashwin cost India the WTC final and this final. Considering Siraj clearly didn't have his captains confidence. Also perhaps Ishan Kishan wouldn't have looked so out of sorts on a slow pitch as SKY. India didn't make the brave calls and Australia did, making them deserving winners.
India messed it up ..on the pitch.Pitch won't win matches ..hope they take the pitch out of the equation in the near future.Let's move on India..we played well ..that's it.
Hypocrisy of these English and Australiam cricket broadcasters loathing the presence of politicians one of whom is the prime minister of India while at the same time talking about politican stuff is disgusting.. it seems the racism against India is still subconciously very much prevalent
I think its just political bias because they worked for the ABC and love the Labor Party politicians. Self respecting Aussies hate all politicians though.
The poor scheduling and empty stadiums (except for India games) suggested that the BCCI only cared about the home side. And the home side lost in front of 120,000 people wearing blue shirts.
India are alot like Australia in that they need to lose to make them hungrier... not that India can throw a game, but winning EVERY game in your own country, doctoring your own pitches, in front of 50,000 of your own fans most games who lose their s&^% at a single ... is bound to introduce Murphy's Law - fairy tale WC wins are pretty much non-existent, especially with India who are far from clutch in big games.
I picked them to win before the world cup if they got to the final... and then if they won the toss they needed to bowl first... Why? Because its cricket and its Australia! This pains me to say as a kiwi of course (or maybe coarse😂) but as they say the truth hurts... They toss as in the semi nz vs india proved crucial for opposite reasons. The movement to contend with in the semi batting second was the difference and the slowness of the pitch with the dew making it easier batting second was the difference... Cummins and co's tactics made the difference also but India chasing with Kohli and the dew after the aussies limping to a low total on a dead track would of been close at best i think... India didnt make the most of the swing early either with Shami opening (which he doesnt do) turned out to be a blunder... Good to see the underdog win when most wrote them off!
Congratulation on Australia winning. Right from the beginning of the tournament I always felt the three Aussie fast bowlers were far better than rest of the teams. India were 100 runs short on that pitch. Loosing the toss, batting first and none of the batsmen scoring big and poor batting performance from 4 of the 6 batsmen was the real reason for the defeat. There was nothing the Indian bowlers could do with such a low score of 240. With that score they would have lost to England, South Africa, Newzealand, Pakistan and Srilanka. The competitive score on that pitch was above 340. Millions of Indians got disappointed. The promising aspect is with so much talent emerging through IPL, India will always be one of top 3 performing nations for the rest of the future.
India is a place where finger spinners get the most bite of surface and that’s proven through stats historically over the years And Australia comes to India with only one spinner in their side and that too is a fuckin leggie How they pull off another World Cup This was not historical This Is LEGENDARY
🎉 I always enjoyed the Analysis of you guys not only during this ODI WC but since Adam covered Ind Vs AUS Test in 2020-21 when India breached the Gaba Fortress.. I always find that unbiased opinion not only about sports but all other political melodrama comes along with it. 🎉 I also wanted to meet you guys at Indore (M.P) but Couldn't meet.
The show has been great value for me since the majority of games have been unwatchable due to timezone, so thanks. You've given a mental picture of the happenings which is second to none, tbh. Having been a daily fixture for so long I'm gonna miss this. My thoughts: India got a taste of the Australia us kiwis are so familiar with - spiteful seems to strong a word, but we know how Australia turns it on when it matters. Crushing dreams is their kink - I just fucking knew this was gonna happen. I know Australians, I'm half of one. India was virtually doing it's victory lap after the semi, and the pitch stuff ... like, don't chum the sharks dummies. Australia strutted in and made them look fucking ordinary, and it's actually pretty funny. It was top 5% stuff out there, it's that ineffable x-factor shit, again. It's the siege of Tobruk fuck you we'll just bayonet charge your tanks stuff, Gandalf you shall not pass stuff - India hasn't got it. In the end it was meek. I always thought the narrative was overwrought for media purposes. India were vulnerable and brittle after all and I think that wasn't such a hot take for people whose livelihoods didn't rely on pandering to an Indian market - they've fucked up every properly high stakes match for over a decade, but if you say that the billion-strong Lynch mob will send you death threats on your socials. They won the WC of most cancerously toxic fanbase last night though...
Something else that struck me are the parallels with the 1996 World Cup final. Australia won the toss and did what we normally do and batted. We got off to a flyer (for the era) and scoring got tough in the middle overs. Sri Lanka applied the brakes and we couldn't release them so we didn't get to a big enough total, scoring 241, just 1 more than India managed today. After a couple of early wickets conditions settled down and Sri Lanka ran down the total with little difficulty, cruising to a 7 wicket victory highlighted by a sparkling century. Not much different from this final but Australia were on the other side of it this time because they were bold enough to bowl first.
A lot more dew in 1996 final rendered our bowlers completely ineffectual. I don't think that was the case on this occasion as we didn't see Indian spinners needing to dry the ball between deliveries.
This is exactly like what happened to New England Patriots in 2007 NFL season. Tom Brady(think of him as Rohit Sharma) and Patriots finished the season with a perfect 16-0 record and won all the playoffs and went to Super Bowl XLII but lost to New York Giants in a stunning defeat in the Super Bowl. Only happens in sport. It is tough to swallow but what you gonna do? Life goes on!!
There was a shami lbw appeal vs travis head in the 6th over i think which was very close... caught on the crease back leg etc. No review, no ball tracking on broadcast. Will bug me for the rest of my life. Credit to Australia though, they've looked dead in this tournament at certain points and then do the unbeatable Australia thing they do at world cups.
Cracking performance from the lads. Big win. You're right the deck was rigged against them. The Indians seemed a bit overwhelmed by the occasion and weight of expectations. The Aussies improved throughout the tournament
Not sure the win will get as much love as it should as ODI has been slowing down. Has been quite a packed schedule of cricket this year with the ashes and wtc as well
Been a while since I’ve watched the show. I really don’t know why, you make cricket sexy! Brilliant synopsis as always. Think I’ll catch up on some previous episodes! Well done to Australia! Doesn’t matter the year or the opposition, their pedigree seems to get them through. As a long time suffering Saffa and Proteas fan, this is somewhat annoying. Oh well….
guys...come on...evil empire parallels...india is doing so much to support cricket...it supports test cricket...in no other game is the revenue generation so lopsided...if it was the US nobody else would see a dime.....the crowd is never hostile like crowds down under...no abuse etc...be reasonable...
game is a religion in india...people always get carried away...but don't need to throw out the positives india brings to the game just to sound funny on podcasts
We all know who the number 1 team is in ODI cricket - India!!! So lets not be childish about it and pretend it's Australia because of one match. We all know it's not true in any way shape or form.
Congratulations to aussie team and fans,truly played like a champion on a big day.On the other hand once again our team despite playing good throughout tournament failing at biggest stage,really disappointing,just couldn't handle the pressure.
I think it's by far Australia's greatest ever white ball victory. Still can't believe that happened.
I've seen all 6 Aussie WC wins.....this was probably the best because it was in India v India...amazing win
@@1362pc Plus in terms of the opposition we've had to come up against, this Indian team had the best record and was the most complete team in terms of opponents. Insane victory, our greatest ever WC final because the opposition WERE so good. Insane.
Well in 1987 they played with a red ball. That was also a great win because Australia was near the bottom of the pile back then and in absolute doldrums. This year while we weren't expected to win it, we were always in the mix.
Greatest overall sporting victory....considering the whole context & circumstance
Yes l thought when we were 3/47 l didn't give Australia much chance at winning the game. All throughout the world cup India were so dominant and it seemed as if we had just scraiped our way into the final. In front of a130,000 screaming Indians l just thought it's too much to ask for. When Labashane came in, l was hoping we could at least get to 100 without loosing another wicket. Then when the 100 partnership came up l thought where going to loos a wicket soon, but no they just batted on and on. Then reaching 200 runs, being still only three wickets down with plenty of overs in hand, I thought where going to win this. What an increadable innings by Head and Labashane, Australia's ability to dry up India scoring boundaries was increadable and made the difference.
WHAT A TEAM, Aussies bring our World Cup home you legends 🇦🇺🏆❤️🇦🇺 just so proud of your SPIRIT 🇦🇺
This may be the Greatest Cricket World Cup win. Imagine 90k+ opposition fans. In their own country. The opponent won all 10/10 matches one sided. You were down 2 matches in 2. Gave away 125-0 vs SL and that one Warner catch started the comeback, wins were grinded out. Kudos to this so called "weakest" (?) Australian team.
Yeah, it's an amazing effort.
So far i believed 2003 Wcup was Aussies biggest Wcup win but this 2023 wcup win i think wud be the greatest wcup win by any team, with so many factors as u mentioned above were against the winning team.
Best fielding effort since Ponting and Symonds were patrolling the infield I reckon. Warner covered so much ground, he was immense!
Sensational
Victory of the ages 👍
You’re right - Pat Cummins saying, “I’m going to take the ‘risky’ move because it’s the right move and I’ll accept full responsibility for the outcome,” despite his constant criticism from ‘legends’ and the media is stunningly brave. He leads from the front, makes the right decisions and takes accountability - the epitome of a leader!
Well said
LOL... It was the coaching staff's call. People think Cummins is some kind of genius, he was just following the team plans.
Yep absolutely right. I for one did not think Cummins should have been Captain, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Kudos to him for having the courage and taking the risk. Paid off amazingly 🏏
@@Lupi33zhe has the ultimate call; that’s always been the way with the Australian Captain 🏏
As far as the toss is concerned. Pat Cummins has the last laugh. Brave decision by pat Cummins pays off .
Well done boys, it’s been a great World Cup for you. Really enjoyed Geoff’s commentary too. Not sure I’d have stuck with the later part of the group stage if this pod wasn’t dropping every day. Reckon you’ve earned a beer and a sit down.
Absolutely fanging for just that. Thanks!
absolutely.
And now we can all get a regular nights sleep! Hurrah
India literally gifted the match after Rohit Sharma got out, but getting Travis head soon was crucial ,but so many ball went past Head without any luck for Bumrah..but Head took the risks rightly and it paid off..
Including an outstanding catch.Sky totally flopped ,surely could have scored another 30-40runs ,say 280 was a winning score on this pitch but it was not to be and Aus win very easily.. Kudos Australia,6th time ,best cricket team ever ..
What a great year for Australia,test champions,world cup winner,ashes retained,best time to retire 🎉🎉👍
where i can listen boycott sir commentory
Aus played it perfectly, well skippered. India 60 runs short, nearly an hour without a boundary.
@my_father_sorry_i_am_lying_nowyeah, so Australia played it perfectly
Saying India would've won 9 times out of 10 is a bunch of crap. Australia built to that game playing through adversity and had become the far more in form and resilient team. The Australian team had class and experience all over the park, at least the equal of India. Turns out the Indian team had plenty of weaknesses just waiting for a class team like Australia to exploit.
Cummins becoming a legendary captain for Australia. What a player and what a call
HUGE call to bowl first
Those Indian fans that swarmed your last vid are REAL quiet now. hahaha
Funny that hey 😉 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🏆🏆🏆
Travis Head is such a big game player. Gutsy performance under pressure against all odds. What a specular victory Come on Aussie 🦘
They named him after the wrong part of the anatomy. Should be Travis Balls
The slow death of the last 50 runs was brilliant to watch.... hearing the Indian commentators saying the only reason they lost was because of the bad 'conditions' they copped was even better...
You always know when India are losing they put Shastri in commentary and Bogle is nowhere to be seen or heard.
@@Lupi33z
Shastri is the most one eyed commentator on the planet. Awful.
Truth be known, India probably would have batted anyway.
As an Indian, I'm very glad that it's Aussies who lifted the trophy. BCCI must realize that bringing religion, caste, hate into sports will never yield the intended results. I don't think it's a coincidence or ICC's plan that the match happened in Gujrat.
love you Australia 🇦🇺 from our heart ♥ congratulations 🎊 lslamabad. Pakistan 🇵🇰 😊😊
Thank you, looking forward to the test series here in Aus soon, hope you guys do well 🎉
Thanks Mates, a wonderful tourament and wonderful summaries. Cheers
Indians, barring the usual Rohit - Kohli - Bumrah, failed to perform on the big day. For Indian fans its a pretty familiar script.
It's often the performance of the next lot decides it. In India's case Gill, Iyer, Siraj, kuldeep, SKY all failed. Shami saved his worst for this day. In contrast, Head & Marnus step up in their first CWC Final.
Aussies have in them what nobody has, as far as cricket world cups go.
We need to give younger players a chance. We need some southpaws in the team. We need to find somebody who can consistently bowl 150+ and a wrist spinner who can flight the ball. We need a change of guard.
Rohit failed as a captain for the first time in the tournament too
I thought Cummins's constant bowling changes during the middle overs were brilliant. He refused to allow the Indian batters to settle and pick off 5 or 6 an over instead of 3 or 4. Someone would bowl a tight over and he'd pull them off anyway because he wanted to keep giving the batters different looks.
A complaint I had about his captaincy and general approach in England was that it felt like he was sitting back and allowing England to go after the game. As far as I'm concerned, we shouldn't be allowing England to dictate the course of a cricket match. But in the two knockout games here, he took the initiative with his bowling changes. I wanted us to bat first but I said to my brother early on that I liked how Cummins was looking to take control, even if it didn't work.
It also says a lot about who he is as a cricketer that his best performance with the ball in the tournament came in the final when we needed it most. The dismissal of Kohli wasn't as critical as that catch, but it mattered. I was thinking 280 was par at that point, and they finished 40 shy of it, runs they desperately needed as it meant Labuschagne didn't have to worry early on about his strike rate and could just bat time and wait for conditions to settle.
AUSSIES GET HEAD, WIN TROPHY
To my Indian friends, I'm sorry that you lost. You are the country that makes Australia better.
Probably the only thing Australia can do better than India is play cricket but next time trophy is coming to India!!
Massively enjoyed your commentary throughout this tournament, guys. Fair, informative, entertaining, and Aussie humour to boot.
Well played Australia- don’t know how you do it but you always do- never underestimate Aus in a final
Bloody hell, in the end it wasn't even close!
Cant help but feel sad for the Indian supporters today. Lmao
I’m not 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🏆🏆🏆 6th World Cup
@@pm110978 Tidal wave warning for Indonesia and Malaysia because of all the Indian tears.
@@pm110978 My Lmao points to my real feelings on the matter.😂
Very happy for you guys. Well done Australia. Until next time we see you again then! :) Congratulations.
As 🇮🇳heartbroken but this is Australia greatest World Cup final win against all odds
Toss - everyone in India thought how on earth Pat gave batting to India - it’s going to be 2003 reverse outcome with similar batting from Indians like Australia’s did
People really underestimated this aussie side .....i dont know why people kept ignoring the squad that is filled with multiple world championship winning players in different formats
Perfect analysis as always. I’m devastated for the Indian team and people, but a truly superb win for aussies
It was a grand win, and a big upset but in the context of Australia's cricket history 1987 was a seminal moment. 1987 remains as Australia's most impactful & unlikely win in the ODI format.
Steve smith not reviewing when he was not out has to be in the hall of fame
Right up there
Wonderful coverage as always fellas 🙏
Thanks PG
Cricket doesn't like perfect... just ask Bradman.. 11 out of 11 a big task
Produced a shit tip of a wicket and it backfired 😂
Thank you guys for your fantastic coverage. A terrific mix of analysis and good humoured fun. Your enthusiasm for the game shines through in these podcasts.
Beating India in India during the World Cup final. Very special. Brilliant to watch!
If Pat Cummins is woke,(whatever that means). Sign me up!
Really enjoyed your coverage throughout the tournament, I hadn't heard (consciously) of either Adam or Geoff prior to this competition, pleased I did finally through this WC.
This commentary added a depth to understanding and interest that is often missing from long tournaments. Despite the length of tournament, I enjoyed this format and was interested throughout it, as it was still uncertain who would be making semi's until 7th round games. Great work guys!
Never missed them during the Ashes - like and follow whenever a series is on, they are great at providing insightful observations.
Their coverage of the ashes was absolutely first class.
Cricket won BCCI lost...thanks Australia
Travis Head is like a bottle of Grange.
Bumrah accidentally flicked the bails with his towel. He didn’t deliberately knock them off.
I don't know if its necessarily our greatest win in terms of the quality of the performance or winning against the odds. However, it is definitely the most memorable and the sweetest victory.
Head to head I don't think this team would beat Steve Waugh's 1999 team but this 2023 team definitely are more gracious winners and can stand tall as winning under pressure.
If pushed I would say that the 1987 ICC World Cup win was the best ever as they won it when no-one expected them and after years of losing after the retirement of the big three, Australia was suddenly back on top against the odds and all of Alan Border and Bob Simpson's hard work to bring Australia modern cricket was rewarded and Australia loved the team rather than simply loving Border and despairing of the rest.
One of the most entertaining sights in cricket, is the look on Kohli's face when something goes wrong. Thank you for making that happen Aussie & congratulations! 🏏🏆
It's right up there with the gnarling Merv Hughes, Curtly Ambrose's 1000 yard stare or the cheeky Warne wink for top cricketing facial expressions. 😁
Actually him not being captain is a major factor they didn't win IMO. About 2/3 through the Australian innings you could see him berating Rohit for not setting a field to save the single and build pressure. After that discussion he changed tactic and Australia found it harder to score but it was too late.
@@Lupi33zchokli was bigger choker as a captain than player he literally won nothing under his captaincy except a u19 wc by bashing farmers
I'm here for the Maxi and Geoff hugs ❤
yout not old enough to say it's Australia's greatest world cup win. 1999 world cup was the best I think. closer games more competitive teams. when Pakistan and south Africa were at the best.
Believe it or not we were both alive in 1999
1987 mate, also in India. We were just coming out of the cricket wilderness after WSC with some of our best players recently retired and others playing rebel tours and being banned to represent the country.
Thats our best victory imo.
It's always a matter of personal opinion as to what the best win is. I think 1987 deserves the prize because we were still scraping along the bottom as a cricket team, the previous summer England had beaten us at home in the Ashes and leathered us in the final of the one-day tri series so for us to go to India and win the World Cup was completely unexpected to say the least.
This year's team had plenty of quality and we knew it was possible they could win, although I was never expecting it until the last 60 runs or so! Very little of the 1987 World Cup was on TV here so my personal favourite remains 1999 and the 2 wins over South Africa, highlighted by the semi-final. The final was good fun and ensured those other great memories would remain at the top.
This year's win was great and I will remember it with great pleasure. Beating India in their backyard is incredible!
that also kick started the era of dominance with the 1992 cup being a hiccup in between because we'd played too much cricket that summer and were burned out by the time the world cup came around. The West Indies also flopped and they were still a good team then.@@iankearns774
Why India has made cricket it's religion by disregarding it's own sportsperson of other games who have achieved at tough sports at world level. . Cricket mad India cannot be a sporting nation.Cricket is a game of convenience for India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc. Cricket requires skill and a limited amount of fitness is enough to make you world champ. Even fitness standard of the level with pot belly can also become world champs scoring tons. Running between the wickets in your own timing.In batting ball comes to you. If you cannot bowl fast like Brett Lee, become a spinner .Whereas in soccer, basketball, track and field, hockey, Tennis etc you not only need skills, but also enormous amount of speed, stamina, and fitness. OPPONENT STRETCHES YOU IN ALL THESE PARAMETERS. To beat Maradona you have to beat him in his speed, stamina and fitness . So is with Bolt, Micheal Jordon, Micheal Phleps, Nadal, Federer etc. It's neck to neck fight in all these parameters. If infrastructure and money are seen for any games popularity, than why people from India , Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled in England, US and Europe don't play soccer, basketball, track and field tennis, rugby and other games, which are popular there. There also people from India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled from generation play cricket only. Cannot find champs in games like soccer, basketball, track and field etc try to search champs in a lazy game cricket. You talk of Micheal Jordon, Indian will bring cricketer.You talk of Maradona and Pele Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Micheal Phleps. Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Federer and Nadal,Indian will bring cricketer.Even the cricket playing population in India is more than the population of England, Australia, Newzealand, South Africa combined. For these countries cricket is just a game. They are world class in soccer, basketball, track and field, basketball, hockey, volleyball, rugby etc.
Why India has made cricket it's religion by disregarding it's own sportsperson of other games who have achieved at tough sports at world level. . Cricket mad India cannot be a sporting nation.Cricket is a game of convenience for India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc. Cricket requires skill and a limited amount of fitness is enough to make you world champ. Even fitness standard of the level with pot belly can also become world champs scoring tons. Running between the wickets in your own timing.In batting ball comes to you. If you cannot bowl fast like Brett Lee, become a spinner .Whereas in soccer, basketball, track and field, hockey, Tennis etc you not only need skills, but also enormous amount of speed, stamina, and fitness. OPPONENT STRETCHES YOU IN ALL THESE PARAMETERS. To beat Maradona you have to beat him in his speed, stamina and fitness . So is with Bolt, Micheal Jordon, Micheal Phleps, Nadal, Federer etc. It's neck to neck fight in all these parameters. If infrastructure and money are seen for any games popularity, than why people from India , Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled in England, US and Europe don't play soccer, basketball, track and field tennis, rugby and other games, which are popular there. There also people from India, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh etc settled from generation play cricket only. Cannot find champs in games like soccer, basketball, track and field etc try to search champs in a lazy game cricket. You talk of Micheal Jordon, Indian will bring cricketer.You talk of Maradona and Pele Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Micheal Phleps. Indian will bring cricketer. You talk of Federer and Nadal,Indian will bring cricketer.Even the cricket playing population in India is more than the population of England, Australia, Newzealand, South Africa combined. For these countries cricket is just a game. They are world class in soccer, basketball, track and field, basketball, hockey, volleyball, rugby etc.
Massive effort from you both.What a game!To the doubters of Uncle Pat it's time to apologise.Well done Aussies! oi oi oi.
So much covered so well - thank you again! Just adding an appreciation of Inglis & his Cup-finals-record 5 dismissals (even if mostly the recipient of some great bowling). Half way through the tournament it was looking like the selectors had gotten the Carey flip wrong, but add in his innings vs SA & he's one of the finest in the finals, I reckon.
You two are bloody legends.
Thanks as always for the great insights and pop culture references that are in my wheelhouse (although this show was a little short of them)
Undefeated minor premiers CRUSHED in Final 🏆
Ah but Indian won the moral victory. My suggestion is to have a moral victory champions league with only England and India in it. In that way at least one of them would win something. Then the next year the second place team could be champions without actually playing a game. Easy peasy
As a fellow Aussie just want to share from my experience that not all hateful, abusive, toxic comments you get on social media are from Indians, many fake accounts are posing as Indians (I know, so weird)
Correct..that was NOT supposed to happen
India fan here
Australia were the better team and deserved to win
May I ask the hosts to please read Nick houldts article in the telegraph? At what point do the nonstop attacks on Indian fans, their so called silence, lack of sportsmanship, hubris etc start to border on downright racist
Why can’t India lose without having its politics, national character, fan base and integrity so relentlessly impugned ?
I don’t like narendra modi. But politicians regularly attend World Cup finals, as macron did at the rugby World Cup just a few weeks ago. Why is india singled out for this?
As an Indian who lives in the uk, I’m despondent about the loss. But what devastates me is the casually racist ways that journalists in publications like the telegraph write about india and its people
Why is racism always the fallback of the feeble minded?
Australians cop the shit when its thrown at us. You people never shut up about sandpaper gate or how you beat us at the Gabba.
Own your incompetence, admit the better Team won. I say team because thats how they played. You have the superstars, the cricket gods in your eyes but you dont always play as a team and you rarely acknowledge the winner when you lose. Its your arrogance thats the issue here and not any Australians perceived racism.
This. Feels bad enough to lose a tournament we dominated. What are people bashing Indian fans for? I don't get it.
Its just media trying to get a story out of anything they can, I think most Australians would feel like me, happy we won but I do feel for Indian fans, it would have been good for India to win, your team is great, the current and future prosperity of cricket is in in India, you guys really love the game, it would have been good for cricket. As long as England didn't win, I would've been happy for any team to win.
@@advitiayanand5974 I am happy we won, a bit sad for you guys but your supporters have trolled the crap out of us since sandpaper gate when its well known you have had players who also cheated.
What goes around comes around, its only sport mate. Go hug your missus, kids or parents. Thats far more important than cricket. You will get another chance and when you win it you will enjoy it all the more.
@@geitalew7677 Yeah we cant let the Poms win. Thats just not cricket!
Thanks for a great summary. Not picking Ashwin cost India the WTC final and this final. Considering Siraj clearly didn't have his captains confidence. Also perhaps Ishan Kishan wouldn't have looked so out of sorts on a slow pitch as SKY. India didn't make the brave calls and Australia did, making them deserving winners.
Siraj is a new ball bowler. He should've continued bowling with the new ball.
Excellent work boys. Looked forward to these recaps throughout the world cup.
India messed it up ..on the pitch.Pitch won't win matches ..hope they take the pitch out of the equation in the near future.Let's move on India..we played well ..that's it.
Fab wrap-up fellas. Well done as always.
Justice served ❤ Aus🎉
Travis Head IS Deep Throat!
Congratulations🎉
Hypocrisy of these English and Australiam cricket broadcasters loathing the presence of politicians one of whom is the prime minister of India while at the same time talking about politican stuff is disgusting.. it seems the racism against India is still subconciously very much prevalent
Yes they are racist ofcourse. They earn all the money because of Indian cricket. But same time keep criticising bcci and Indians with a racial bias
I think its just political bias because they worked for the ABC and love the Labor Party politicians. Self respecting Aussies hate all politicians though.
@@Lupi33z They can keep their politics to themselves then.. why impose their political bias on a country that they dont understand
Geoff Lemon try not to show how much he hates Labuschagne challenge. - [IMPOSSIBLE].
Love your smile 🎉 AC
The poor scheduling and empty stadiums (except for India games) suggested that the BCCI only cared about the home side. And the home side lost in front of 120,000 people wearing blue shirts.
India are alot like Australia in that they need to lose to make them hungrier... not that India can throw a game, but winning EVERY game in your own country, doctoring your own pitches, in front of 50,000 of your own fans most games who lose their s&^% at a single ... is bound to introduce Murphy's Law - fairy tale WC wins are pretty much non-existent, especially with India who are far from clutch in big games.
I picked them to win before the world cup if they got to the final... and then if they won the toss they needed to bowl first...
Why? Because its cricket and its Australia! This pains me to say as a kiwi of course (or maybe coarse😂) but as they say the truth hurts...
They toss as in the semi nz vs india proved crucial for opposite reasons. The movement to contend with in the semi batting second was the difference and the slowness of the pitch with the dew making it easier batting second was the difference...
Cummins and co's tactics made the difference also but India chasing with Kohli and the dew after the aussies limping to a low total on a dead track would of been close at best i think...
India didnt make the most of the swing early either with Shami opening (which he doesnt do) turned out to be a blunder...
Good to see the underdog win when most wrote them off!
Can we stop calling South Africa chokers now?
Congratulation on Australia winning. Right from the beginning of the tournament I always felt the three Aussie fast bowlers were far better than rest of the teams. India were 100 runs short on that pitch. Loosing the toss, batting first and none of the batsmen scoring big and poor batting performance from 4 of the 6 batsmen was the real reason for the defeat. There was nothing the Indian bowlers could do with such a low score of 240. With that score they would have lost to England, South Africa, Newzealand, Pakistan and Srilanka. The competitive score on that pitch was above 340. Millions of Indians got disappointed. The promising aspect is with so much talent emerging through IPL, India will always be one of top 3 performing nations for the rest of the future.
India is a place where finger spinners get the most bite of surface and that’s proven through stats historically over the years
And Australia comes to India with only one spinner in their side and that too is a fuckin leggie
How they pull off another World Cup
This was not historical
This Is LEGENDARY
🎉 I always enjoyed the Analysis of you guys not only during this ODI WC but since Adam covered Ind Vs AUS Test in 2020-21 when India breached the Gaba Fortress.. I always find that unbiased opinion not only about sports but all other political melodrama comes along with it. 🎉
I also wanted to meet you guys at Indore (M.P) but Couldn't meet.
The show has been great value for me since the majority of games have been unwatchable due to timezone, so thanks. You've given a mental picture of the happenings which is second to none, tbh. Having been a daily fixture for so long I'm gonna miss this.
My thoughts: India got a taste of the Australia us kiwis are so familiar with - spiteful seems to strong a word, but we know how Australia turns it on when it matters. Crushing dreams is their kink - I just fucking knew this was gonna happen. I know Australians, I'm half of one.
India was virtually doing it's victory lap after the semi, and the pitch stuff ... like, don't chum the sharks dummies. Australia strutted in and made them look fucking ordinary, and it's actually pretty funny. It was top 5% stuff out there, it's that ineffable x-factor shit, again. It's the siege of Tobruk fuck you we'll just bayonet charge your tanks stuff, Gandalf you shall not pass stuff - India hasn't got it. In the end it was meek.
I always thought the narrative was overwrought for media purposes. India were vulnerable and brittle after all and I think that wasn't such a hot take for people whose livelihoods didn't rely on pandering to an Indian market - they've fucked up every properly high stakes match for over a decade, but if you say that the billion-strong Lynch mob will send you death threats on your socials. They won the WC of most cancerously toxic fanbase last night though...
Something else that struck me are the parallels with the 1996 World Cup final. Australia won the toss and did what we normally do and batted. We got off to a flyer (for the era) and scoring got tough in the middle overs. Sri Lanka applied the brakes and we couldn't release them so we didn't get to a big enough total, scoring 241, just 1 more than India managed today. After a couple of early wickets conditions settled down and Sri Lanka ran down the total with little difficulty, cruising to a 7 wicket victory highlighted by a sparkling century.
Not much different from this final but Australia were on the other side of it this time because they were bold enough to bowl first.
A lot more dew in 1996 final rendered our bowlers completely ineffectual. I don't think that was the case on this occasion as we didn't see Indian spinners needing to dry the ball between deliveries.
This is exactly like what happened to New England Patriots in 2007 NFL season. Tom Brady(think of him as Rohit Sharma) and Patriots finished the season with a perfect 16-0 record and won all the playoffs and went to Super Bowl XLII but lost to New York Giants in a stunning defeat in the Super Bowl. Only happens in sport. It is tough to swallow but what you gonna do? Life goes on!!
Realized India were proper shaken after they moved away from the Bumrah-Siraj opening combo.
There was a shami lbw appeal vs travis head in the 6th over i think which was very close... caught on the crease back leg etc. No review, no ball tracking on broadcast. Will bug me for the rest of my life.
Credit to Australia though, they've looked dead in this tournament at certain points and then do the unbeatable Australia thing they do at world cups.
Pommy supporters on top of the world no doubt.
No smiles on the Wisden podcast. Lol
Marvellous work lads ... I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to your pod everyday on my commute to work. Keep it up!
Cracking performance from the lads. Big win. You're right the deck was rigged against them. The Indians seemed a bit overwhelmed by the occasion and weight of expectations. The Aussies improved throughout the tournament
Really enjoyed your coverage lads, that goes for Cam and Vish too. Hopefully the toxic social media comments aren’t too bad…
Not sure the win will get as much love as it should as ODI has been slowing down. Has been quite a packed schedule of cricket this year with the ashes and wtc as well
Can someone tell me why many players and commentators were saying there was 130 k in the stadium yet the official attendance was 92k?
Starc always comes back stronger after being dropped. It’s like he sometimes needs that kick up to backside to get back into form.
More Rumble in the Jungle Ali v Foreman than Douglas v Tyson imo lads… Rope a Dope!!
Been a while since I’ve watched the show. I really don’t know why, you make cricket sexy! Brilliant synopsis as always. Think I’ll catch up on some previous episodes! Well done to Australia! Doesn’t matter the year or the opposition, their pedigree seems to get them through. As a long time suffering Saffa and Proteas fan, this is somewhat annoying. Oh well….
Maxi winning it was funny
not quite as funny as Lehmann doing it twice after doing nothing in both tournaments
India has put all its eggs in one basket called Cricket.
This was a great show. Followed it every day throughout the world cup. It was a great journey.
Did you guys edit out the part about airbrushing imran khan out ??
Think that was in the preview episode.
Cool, thought it was a BCCI censor lol
JK
Keep up the great work, looking forward to the Aus vs Pak coverage
How much of a difference could Pandya have made?
guys...come on...evil empire parallels...india is doing so much to support cricket...it supports test cricket...in no other game is the revenue generation so lopsided...if it was the US nobody else would see a dime.....the crowd is never hostile like crowds down under...no abuse etc...be reasonable...
game is a religion in india...people always get carried away...but don't need to throw out the positives india brings to the game just to sound funny on podcasts
It was a David Vs Goliath act in role reversed.
Amazing coverage as always! Loved all the episodes during the wc. Keep it up 🎉
Amazing effort all the way through fellas. Thank you!
We all know who the number 1 team is in ODI cricket - India!!! So lets not be childish about it and pretend it's Australia because of one match. We all know it's not true in any way shape or form.
Impressive analysis and commentary
Australia Men - 6x world champions
Australia Women - 7x world champions.
27 million people who know how to get it done at the big dance.
Feel a bit for Alex Carey and Ashton Agar .. AC services not required and AA sent home early.
Those were brave calls by the selectors and management. To play in the subcontinent without a second spinner took some balls.
Sweetest victory of them all 🏆🏆🏆🏆🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
India chased 350 while Aus chased 240. wasn't a fair game.
what?
Congratulations to aussie team and fans,truly played like a champion on a big day.On the other hand once again our team despite playing good throughout tournament failing at biggest stage,really disappointing,just couldn't handle the pressure.