NOT ONE STEP BACKWARDS! Custom Gates of Hell Editor Battle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 เม.ย. 2021
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Today we're sending soldiers from a Soviet penal battalion to the front! The goal is to cross the bridge and take the German positions under heavy fire. Supported by armor and artillery, convicted troops are sent in by the hundreds. Enjoy!
Note: All my maps and battles are modified/not part of the original game and does not represent the finished product. Everything you see is yours to experience if you so wish to create it. My version of the game contains no third-party content. Some videos/battles may contain footage of edited damage models and gun ranges. Everything is created in the GEM game engine's editor, allowing me to make fully custom battle simulations. - เกม
Can you save the editor battles you set up as a single player mission so the rest of us could play them? You do a good job with this.
That would be amazing
This needs to happen *.*
That would be awesome.
I concure.
Upvote this comment. And yeah, I would loooooove that.
Unpopular opinion:
Can we have a MoWas2 scenario based on syria vs insurgents, like in the past?
Popular opinion:
Can we have a sort of "storyline" with follow up battles? Idk, that you use units that survived the earlier battle + reinforcements
Everyone's opinion:
Can we have literally anything? ahahahh
Follow-up battles is coming as soon as I've given GoH a good all-around showcase on my channel!
@@DiplexHeated This, this is beautiful
@@DiplexHeated Somewhat more unpopular opinion: the AI engine in Gates seems to be different than MoW, so the attacking force isn't as aggressive, nor intelligent about taking cover, so they get mowed down easily. Maybe lighten up on the defender's armaments to give the battles a 50/50 chance?
i am totally up for Syrian Arab Army and Ruddian Army vs ISIS
@@DiplexHeated A series with this would be awesome also, whether its alernate history in any way or not, would be cool to have a series start erly in the war and let the battles decide how the war does go.
Dont ever leave us man, everytime I hear your intro song I know the next minutes are going to be enjoyable!
No no no. The next minutes will be him explaining why the rest of the video will be enjoyable.
Damn I love the realistic effects. It doesn't feel like every shell is filled with gasoline, just earth, dust and smoke. The sound design and vechicle physics also look beautiful. I wish they could add an adequate ragdoll, better animations and also teach the AI about positioning (sometimes infantry is still chaotic), that would make the game fucking legendary.
if they could just figure out how to tell the infantry to not take cover on the opposite side of where they need to take cover it would be perfect
23:21 and for this, Comrade Diplex was sentenced by a field tribunal to three months of a penal battalion.
5:25 For the people who want to get straight to the battle
Hey Diplex! Looking forward to seeing some urban, infantry heavy combat! Keep up the great videos and so great to have you back :)
I actually find this not only more dramatic, but likely MORE accurate. They were ordered (scripted) to fire on anyone who fell back across the river, but they didn’t. They refused to. Which I think was quite possibly what happened in real life.
In real life nobody was shooting retreating soldiers, so yeah, that makes it more accurate.
@@Someone-lr6gu There were surely rare few fanatics on every side that would shoot retreating soldiers, fanatic fascists and communists arnt too far fetched, stubborn capitalists neither, not saying everybody Did it like nothing But surely atleast one case of it happening for everyone
@@schnitzelfritzel6287 Such fanatics would most likely be court martialed for treason in any country. Or at least lynched.
@@Someone-lr6gu Dont change the fact it probably still happened
@@schnitzelfritzel6287 That's not a fact then, that's an opinion.
Hey, Diplex are we gonna see any North Africa videos set in 1941-1942? Ambush’s or Line defenses would be sick 👍
video is already looking like a banger
What are you talking about? The game is not out yet, and very limited, game also focus at Ostfront
... I don't know if I got it right ... but if your request is about this game there would be no way ... it seems to me that it is not fully developed ... on the other hand ... this game is only about Germans against Russians and vice versa ... there are no English or American soldiers or their armaments (except the ones they sold to the Russians during the war and I still don't remember if they really have yet) ... I think those who produce new missions like Sir Hinkel's and create new units, they might create Finns ... Romanians ... Italians ... Hungarians ... Czechs ... I don't know ... I think they would be the ones who fought in the battles in Russia too. ..but I don't think for now that they have anything beyond what you see.
I'll bet it won't be long before some modders put in the other factions. But for now it's beta and only the ostfront.
I was amazed with the animation of the first T34 when the fire came out the barrel while it was burning
Ow my ears after that ending,
Aside from that. This has been an amazing battle and I absolutely love it! It's been a great pleasure watching it!
Soviet Army NKVD Commissar: Not one step back, you bastards!
Death Korps of Krieg Commissar: Slow the hell down, you bastards!
This is one of the prettiest battles in aesthetics i've ever seen on your channel amazing work, i'm in disbelief love it! gates of hell looks incredible.
So happy your back and making new content that no one else has been able to! Lol love the title of this, matches the gruesome battle perfectly👍👍
Your videos are literally like movies, true works of art
Awsome content mate, one of the best battles I’ve seen, would love to see more stuff in this format. Keep up the good work
It’s so good to see diplex back doing what he does best. Giving us the best slaughter fest in wars
Keep doing these they are amazing! Don’t burn yourself out though ✌️
God I'm so happy with how much more fluent the battle looks and how much more realistic the death animations are
Another Great battle and ignore the people who are just nitpicking at the details. I watch your vids cause WW2 Films don't deliver enough of this, a nice 20+ minutes of WW2 action with Infantry, AT Guns, Tanks, Mortars & Howitzers. Keep it up!
For those who did not know, since the summer of 1942, by order No. 227, in addition to the front line, there were also the NKVD "Zagradotryad" barrage detachments, which were always in the second line and their task was to shoot those who retreated. They were armed with machine guns, submachine guns, SVT, artillery and mortar weapons. They were used everywhere, and not only against penal battalions.
When you plan a film adaptation of the Kharkov operation in 1942, you should take this into account. Few people know about this om, but during this operation there was a large shortage of ammunition, there was simply nothing to shoot with, the operation was extremely poorly prepared. There was not enough equipment for transportation, because most of the cars were lost at the beginning of the war. Field artillery was transported mainly on horse-drawn vehicles. I know this not by hearsay, but from my grandfather who was a participant in this operation and was captured by the Germans. All this led to Stalingrad.
Love it! Just love the scenarios you make! More please! An thank you.
Diplex these videos are inane!! Please keep them coming.
I love your channel and all your videos. Keep at it!
In 1941, they did use troops in that kind of callous fashion, with NKVD machine guns set up behind advances to prevent retreat. After winter blunted the German advance, more rational heads prevailed. However, by that time several elite units had been squandered in a line infantry role, including Soviet paratroops and ski troops. In many engagements, NKVD would machine-gun retreating soldiers not to 'get rid of them' but to try and get the rest to return to the attack.
Sick this is gonna be good
D-man, I don't know what I like better..... the game, OR YOU playing along with it. :) Be well dude, and hope to watch more. :)
Nowadays best TH-cam content by far
Diplex I don’t think you will see this but I’m gonna say it anyway you will never please everyone so don’t take people moaning about stuff on the internet to heart when you discuss topics that may be controversial you should still talk about it as because of the type of content you make it will always come up most people prefer for you to talk about it as history is interesting no matter what it is and it’s not like people have to take your word as gospel if they don’t like the way you put stuff they should go and look into it themselves. Discussion is always better than silence
Very good battle scenario design. Great video
I really love your editor battles, have you ever though of doing a tutorial on how you make your maps? or can you share how to script things? Scripting is one of the toughest parts when creating levels :(
keep up the great vids!
Awesome video man !
Thanks DiplexHeated! I love your vids
I really enjoyed the video keep up the god work
Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45 was the first game. Good video. :)
hello ther soo happy when i see you uploded
Yes Inquisitor, this video right here!
Diplex I am a very long time Sub. ETW Sweden days. You should never be afraid to talk about an unpleasant Topic. It is our duty to talk about the darker parts of history openly. When talking about the second world war people as a whole talk about the crimes of the Germans and the Japanese first. Then the Russians. However America and our other allies committed many crimes and had many terrible policies. They also need to be openly talked about.
This game is glorious
Love the video! I would love to see some urban combat in this game.
Small correction. Penal battalion and penal company is a complete different thing. Penal bataillon is basically assault troops with a LOT of weapons for breakthrough, led by experienced officers. You wouldn’t serve more than 3 month in there.
Penal company is basically all the privates who commited crimes, etc, more of a cannon fodder
giving the people what they want
Diplex has made another great video.
Laughs in meat shields. "PENAL LEGIONARIES!!! Although your lives are pretty much worthless and you have betrayed the most holy God Emperor. You may yet find redemption. If you survive the next five years within the legion you will be relieved of your duty in the Imperial Guard and may return to your old life in service to the Emperor with full military pardons. If not well you'll still be redeemed anyways."~ Unknown Officer of Officio Prefectus...
7:56 That is right and wrong at the same time. most German troops preferred the ppsh41 over the mp40 and Kar and would take it when they found it on dead Russian bodies during all of the entire war. However due to late war supply issues they would take them in order to have a gun and ammo.
Beautiful, would be nice to see some more FPS views during these battles in between. GoH has some good ones.
Is it possible for you do a series of videos like this were you keep a ongoing battlefield where buildings, bodies and tanks stay and rest days after where the landscape slowly decays from the onslaught of artillery pots and marks and collapsed buildings and waves of defending and attacking infantry litter the landscape.
Just a thought. 3 episodes of a battlefield story like this could be a great feature for your channel and your great skills of scripting and mission editing could definitely pull this off.
Soviets just cannot catch a break, huh.
Tug of war.... I need em !!!
11:10 Wow,fantastic!
5:27, welcome to the 21st century where everyone is butt hurt over something. This mindset doesn't seem to be going away any time soon so you'll have to get used to it.
this is gold
Nice
The folkstrumguever(sorry 4mispelling), it was the part of the germsn emergency program and was given to the folksgrenadier (untrained civilian fighters.) I've seen alot of differnt versions of this weapon from having a wodden stock to a press steel weapons.
This weapon was issued to the civilian odefence forces originally to give them some advantage being untrained combatants.
Epic
greatt job
Also to add about order 227, the shooting without a trail or sending to gulags would happen if there was an unauthorised retreat.
You should make a video on how you make these battles!
Regarding the German use of the Soviet Ppsh, it’s because they preferred it’s ruggedness and ammo capacity to the Mp40, which was unreliable and the wire foldable stock tended to get flimsy over time
never seen a truck assault like this in ur mow videos befor, is that a new feture in the editor? im mean its like a beach assault but cooler, u nerver do that before in ur videos :D
15:15 The game's name is " Red Orchestra: Ostfront '41-'45 " and you also have the mod " Darkest Hour: Europe '44-'45 "
You should add some SS soldiers into these battles also. I will say though they likely did just straight up kill the deserters or those retreating in the midst of a battle. Because at that point when it’s between winning or losing the deserter or person retreating is of no use, when Staling signed Order 227 into law it quite literally did say you were not to retreat unless given the order from high up.
> I will say though they likely did just straight up kill the deserters or those retreating in the midst of a battle
They didn't. Deserters were caught and either sent back to the frontline or court martialed and sent to penal battalions. Executions were extremely rare.
Another cool historical concept to try would be the battle of khalkin Gol
Germans captured and employed PPSH on mass. And they used it on mass aas well. Because except for the STG44 there is no german smaallarm that can compete with it. And the STG came with it´s own issues, mainly reliability and ammo
Hey can you help me please, when i make attack missions the infantry don't sprint they just walk to the waypoint how do you fix that someone help please.
11:09 motostrelki (motorized rifles) drove up nicely
Robz Realism for this would be amazing, I hope it's planned
I believe that the amount of penal battalion units were actually counted, something like around 500,000 units went through from 42-45 out of almost 35 million mobilized, so about 1.5% and out of those 1.5% about 160,000 were shot due to Stalins order 227. so when you hear somebody REEEEEEing about Muhhhhh Stalin firing squads shooting backs of their own soldiers, know that's GROSSLY overexaggerated, about 0.4% of ALL conscripted soviet soldiers were shot due to order 227 for retreating and spreading panic to nearby soldiers.
There's a weird audio thing at 26:13
Still great video diplexheated
This game looks fantastic do you think you could really push the engine and see just how much action you can have without it dropping the framerate to much
Your source is a little confused. There were mutiple ways to get out of a penal units.
Most officers accused of cowardice or otherr missbehavior like waarcrimes were assigned to them for specific timespans. After that time was up, they were send back to regular service, mostly fully restored in rank.
There were two waays to shorten that timespan though.
1. Getting wounded by the enemy. That includes airstrikes, artillerystrikes and wounds durring demining
2. Partaking in heavy combat.
Your sentence could be lengthened through direct intervention of the NKVD though.
Penal units could also serve as a "get out of gulag" card as the soviet goverment was trying to draw manpower from all corners of it´s territory and all demographics. And a citizen that was willing to die for stalin clearly didn´t belong in the gulag.
Common soldiers who commited any infractions were organized into seperate units, penal coompanies and made up a far smaller percentage of the penal troops as the point of order 227 was to stop blaming the private for his captains or commissars failure.
Penal units were also the only ones who had blocking detachments force them into an attack. All others haaad these heavily armed units in their defensive positions to ensure that any possible panic and rout would not lead to them falling back beyond their original position. They were heavily armed and soldiers that had to retreat could be confident that their own trenches wouldn´t be overrun by counterattacking germans.
Order 227 was less about forcing your infantry to charge under threat of death but more about telling your officers that any time an order to defend or retreat was not followed, the NKVD would loo into it. And that any order the generals gave would also be looked into.
You should do tank battles in cologne, Pershing’s, Shermans panzers and panthers, and infantry
The game is set on the eastern front
@@sovietunion6598 oh really my bad
Some historians dispute that the soviet union used penal battalions, but their were some survivor reports, one famously fought for 3 armies until the allies captured him, which is how we first learned of the famous order 227. Despite this, people deny that the soviet union ever used penal battalions at all, because they supposedly used patriotism and told of ss attrocities to convince penal battalions to do their duty. In my personal opinion, both can be true as many in penal battalions were either apart of an opposition of Stalin's new order or suspected of being in opposition.
> Some historians dispute that the soviet union used penal battalions
What do you mean dispute? Penal battalions were an actual thing implemented by Order 227. Mostly deserting/disobeying officers and NCOs were sent in there.
@@Someone-lr6gu yeah, but in america, there are schools that actually teach that this didn't happen. Even history channel once did a documentary on the "Myth" of penal battalions. This has been going on for the past 2 decades. I'm not going to publicly denounce these people while I am still taking college classes, I would just kiss my diploma goodbye. One even taught that japan wasn't zenophobic or had religious bigotry against christians because "They just didn't want to lose control of their country." you want me to go fail that class? I paid 1300 dollars for that class alone, i'm not gonna dispute those claims eff that.
As long as they won, I doubt AH would be upset.
That was awesome, kinda want to do a bolt action soviet penal legion now 😅 Great stuff!
German soldiers were actually encouraged to adopt enemy equipment, and they even copied enemy equipment a lot, for instance the German light field mortar, the was a direct copy of the russian mortar
I'd like to see the damage models being set to a more realistic level in future videos. The videos so far have been very cinematic, but the close-ups of individual dudes tanking five rounds and still running is a bit weird.
Does anyone know when this add on to Call to Arms is going to be available to the public ?
can you do more squad ops gameplay
Grym
Penile charge?! Ooh behave! ;)
Is there a unit wiki for this game? I'd really would like to look at all of the different unit types
That beginning gave me RO2 flashbacks.
what i noticed that they are doing a lot of classic MOWAS running in one line and getting killed one by one
what i'm yet to see is a tank ordered to drive through a field but instead it drives to the nearest road
and infantry instead jumping over the fence just going around exposed to fire
How do you do the scripting for these battles. I can do very basic stuff but I want to make battles like you do!!
I'm wondering, how did you access the editor for Gates of Hell? I'm in the beta and that's not an option. Is it some Diplex only gift from the devs or something?
He is in the closed beta. We, the normal People only have access to the open beta
Lmao I wish them good luck but if they retreat they'll be machine gunned down by their own men 😂
So will Gates of Hell when the full version releases have factions like the US, Britain, and Japan or is it just strictly the USSR and Germany since it's technically a DLC for Call to Arms? I am really hoping they have the other factions besides just those 2.
How do you edit the battles
Would love to have my own battle or defensive missions
Is it possible to go first person in this DLC? just like in the vanilla Call to Arms?
Stupid question but is this game a work in progress? And if not hows the mods situation and is it better then MOWAS 2?
Short answer yes
No mods
It is better then mowas2
Long answer
What diplex is currently showing us is the closed beta of call to arms ostfront gates of hell , you will need the basic call to arms version if you so wish to play the open beta of gated of hell currently one one mission is available :(
I have the game too, but how do I use the editor???
26:11 Nice fart
Can I download this map or battle setup anywhere?
I didn't think there was editor available yet?
I believe t25s and similar light tanks were classified as tanketes or something like that
Anyone know when this will be released?
do you have a mod set?
German Assault next? Pls?
No? ok :I
Ok!
@@DiplexHeated ah, Comrade Diplex responds! 👍