How Replace Flowtite Push/Pull Plastic Valves
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Flowtite valves are notorious for failing. An easy project anyone can tackle in an afternoon.
Materials Used:
- Water Shutoffs: www.amazon.com...
- Water Lines: www.amazon.com...
- CPVC Weld-Cement:www.amazon.com...
Tools Used:
- Mini-Hacksaw: www.amazon.com...
- Channel Locks: www.amazon.com...
- Catch Bucket
- Cleaning Rags
Disclaimer, these videos are for entertainment and information only. When working on any of your projects around your house, check your local and state codes, ensuring it’s safety and regulations. If don’t feel comfortable performing these tasks, contact a professional.
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Just bought a house, realized it came with these. I’m replacing them immediately
Yes! I recommend to have them replace soon as you can.
Make sure your pipes are PVC if you use this method. If they are PEX pipes (used in many newer homes), you will need a stop valve instead of the PVC cement. The cement doesn't work on PEX.
@@buccaroo I had a master plumber do it. We’re all good now.
Yeah my house is a new build and they used these. The one for the washing machine failed in the first year we owned the house. It’s harder to replace because there isn’t any extra pipe sticking up.
@@ruck-a-tron I got lucky the builder was smart enough to use a brass fitting for the washing machine & refrigerator line. But everything else was those shark bites. They’re pretty cheap bc those valves were making $2-300
Excellent video. Everything i needed to know in a short amount of time. Thank you!
Thank you! Glad the video covered what you needed. If you dive into any more DIY projects, happy plumbing! 🛠️👍
My house has this kind of plastic valves, they still working fine, no leaking after 10 years.
My previous rental house has the metal valves, it leaks.
I think it really depends.
If it ain't broke, don't Fix It 😆
Sure thing
this is exactly what I needed for a repair, thanks!
Great! 👍
Clear and straightforwards! Also thanks for including the tools!
Glad it was helpful!
Good instructional video for removal of the Accor push/pull valves and installation of the newer (safer) metal twist valves. However, at 3:40 in your video you incorrectly stated that pulling on the Aacor push/pull valve knob opens the valve, and pushing it in closes it. This is incorrect as when you pull it out, the valve shuts off. Pushing it in opens the valve. The valve operation is backwards from how you stated it.
Great catch!!! Thanks for pointing it out… you are right about that.
Method A has teeth mark, but after adding new valve with pvc cement... Does this negate the teeth marks because the cemet "fills" in the gap from teeth mark??? I ask because I don't have a saw to cut and wondering what is the negative of the teeth marks. Thanks in advance for anybody's response.
I’m sure someone will call me a moron, this is the internet, but as a plumber I’d say it’s fine. The glue should fill any imperfections. It is a solvent cement bond after all, it works by melting the two together and solidifying.
If it’s PEX and you’re expanding it, which it doesn’t sound like is your case but was mine today, as long and the teeth marks don’t go too deep it seems fine too. The ones I took off didn’t really make much of a mark, and I could hardly feel the teeth marks. I’d say that means they don’t grip too hard!
What would you use for 5/8 PEX lines coming out of the wall?
Do I have to shut off my Main water first
I have the exact same question!!
Yes you must
Just wondering about that REALLY short value you glued on. Won't that cause some issues later on down road if that valve fails? Wouldn't a sharkbite be a better choice for future repairs?
It’s a good question. Generally the “glued on” valve has a lesser chance of a leak. However, it is not replaceable like Sharkbites. Personally, I prefer to have to cut off a faulty valve, gluing a new one, over using sharkbite ones. But either is a solution to these horrific plastic valves. Thanks a ton for watching and commenting. 👍👍👍
Another thing is sharkbites tend to blow off if you’re plumbing freezes. It less likely for a glued fitting to blow off. Any pipe can burst though.
Don’t forget to turn off the main water supply valve before doing this!
Correct! 👍… I keep forgetting the “little” yet important things. Well noted. Thanks for watching.
@@DIYPlumbingGuy didn’t mean to sound like I was shouting at you lol!😀😂😂😂
Thank you! Video was a life saver on a water filter installation disaster.
That plastic push pull looks cheap....why the hell would they even put that in ?
Great observation! You're spot on about the plastic push-pull design - it's commonly used in new-construction due to its cost-efficiency, especially in houses with builder-grade materials. I definitely recommend replacing them all. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel, your comment means a lot! 🏡💡🙌
My builder, Veridian, did it for exactly that reason- they’re cheap-ass people.
Because builders subs are lazy as F-K
You answered your own question lol. It’s because they’re cheap.
Any item can be picked apart. What is the real track record of failures? These cheap pot metal valves have issues too. I was shocked to see the Accor product on several homes, but never had an issue and the company was helpful when I needed new faucet connection.
Remember products are built to lowest common denominator of user experience. Many here understand these various products, most don't, even to fact that you push pul to open close.
Thanks for the comment
Make sure your pipes are PVC if you use this method. If they are PEX pipes (used in many newer homes), you will need a stop valve instead of the PVC cement. The cement doesn't work on PEX.
Totally agree. 👍
Can you link what a stop valve looks like?
I use a pipe cutter. It may take more time but it works like a charm. It leaves no damage.
Oh YES!!.. I have seen that method of removing, it's super neat. 👍
Tubing cutter around the base of the valve is the way to go. Leaves you plenty of pipe to work with.
Been plumbing for 30 plus years and have never seen this garbage
Like, you never seen this type of valve? Or you have never seen them leak??
I use a pipe cutter to cut the FlowTite off. This way you do not lose pipe.
Good idea! That's definitely the way to go, especially if you have just a bit of pipe sticking out. Thanks for sharing this useful tip; I appreciate it! 😄🛠️👍
Can you use a multi-tool ?
My HOA demanded all these to be changed. Your video was perfect instruction. Thank you
Glad it helped
Great video! Thanks for sharing your expertise!
My pleasure!
Thank you so much! Do you have the link of those items. That's exactly what i needed. TYIA
Hey there! 👍
I've just added this to the description. Here are the materials I used.
Water Shutoffs (www.amazon.com/Eastman-04345LF-Angle-Stop-Valve/dp/B00LGZIVS6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=14KUOZ6IJVN4E&keywords=1%2F2%2Bin.%2BCPVC%2BInlet%2Bx%2B3%2F8%2Bin.%2BCompression&qid=1692974047&sprefix=1%2F2%2Bin.%2Bcpvc%2Binlet%2Bx%2B3%2F8%2Bin.%2Bcompression%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-3&th=1)
- Water Lines (www.amazon.com/Homevacious-24-Inch-Connector-Braided-Stainless/dp/B07JGQ69KR/ref=sr_1_4?crid=32W9W5W6OEGPB&keywords=faucet%2Bwater%2Blines&qid=1692974723&s=hi&sprefix=faucet%2Bwater%2Blines%2Ctools%2C94&sr=1-4&th=1)
- CPVC Weld-Cement (www.amazon.com/Oatey-31128-Medium-Orange-4-Ounce/dp/B001AZ5JNW?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1)
Thanks for watching. 🎬
Im doing this by myself. Do i need to go anywhere and shut the water off first will the pipes be filled with water. Should i just cut it off and take it with me to Lowes because i dont know what to measure to get the right one i have two to replace upstairs and down stairs should all of the home be the same size?
All good but you forgot a few steps, Like when dealing with cpvc pipe and the glue it needs time to set up before turning on the water . Otherwise you will flood your house !!
Thanks for the heads up! You're right, allowing the glue to set is crucial with CPVC. It's a key step to avoid unwanted surprises. Stay dry and safe on your projects! 🚿👷♂️
How long would you allow it to set for ?
Bro, taking mine off was a mission. Ended up using a multi tool to cut into the valve as I didn’t have quite enough pipe sticking out of the wall. Crazy, but got it done. Thanks.
Oh yeah! Sometimes they don’t leave enough pipe sticking out for you… I’m glad it worked out!
You can just use a normal pipe cutter on the valve itself to cut it off
Thanks for the clear, well paced video.
Awesome!! I’m still trying to get better one video at time… thanks for the support!!! 😊
You should have, poured the cement over the pipe, and let the excess drip back into the can! lol
THIS IS IMMENSELY HELPFUL. thank you and God bless!
Thanks so much for this info.
Glad it was helpful! 👍
You have cpvc there which will also snap right off when older that 5 to 10 years due to how brittle it gets
I agree 100%… CPVC is not the best material after it ages. This whole scenario is an insurance nightmare. 😀
@@DIYPlumbingGuyThere will be a lot of homes and apartment buildings with severe flood damage in the future. The insurance companies will probably make people replace those plastic pushon valves to what you did here. Before insuring their home etc.
cement will make it impossible to replace the new valve.
Can I add compression fit valve?
If you are going to use compression, make sure to use the proper fitting for CPVC, if that's what you have in your home.
Thank goodness for ALL of this information!! 🤩
I am so glad you found this informative… thanks for watching and supporting the channel. Tips like these can save you from a big headache in the future. 🛠️✌️
How do these inferior things even pass manufacturing & quality inspection? I don't get it. 🤷🤷♀️🤷♂️
Me neither… most cases it comes down to cost, these are cheaper and quicker to install.
there are 2 orings on these,. one on the ID/inside and one on the OD/outside. Both can be seen in the video. The ID oring is on the outside of the barb that fits into the water line tube.
while these are a less than ideal valve, this video is incorrect because water does not pool up betweenthe 2 orings by design (although there is a good possibility that BOTH orings can go out, his description of how it operates is incorrect.
also, he uses cements to install the new valves?!?!?! This is SO bad. what if the valve needs to be replaced for some reason?
Finally, he used FAR too much cement to instal these. IT's going to leak thru and into the water line when installed. such bad advice here
Does this method work with CPVC?
Ok, so did u turn off the water going into the house first?
Or doesn't it automatically do that?
Need better videos with each step.
lol!!! I wish I had an automatic water shutoff. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
I have 18 of these to replace. I'm procrastinating because i think it's gonna take forever
Should not take a whole day, it is important to get them replaced. Good luck.
I got those dumb valves.
Interesting. The parts you listed in the description are links to Amazon, which has designated these as “frequently returned items”. Maybe some updated parts are needed?
Thanks for pointing that!! I will check it out…
Why leave the plastic pipe?
Many times? To me they are in a time use. I am 120lbs. I cannot imagine someone with more strength than me pulling that, youb will be pulling the entire wall.
Super agree! These things are not robust at all… if you ever have a chance go ahead and replace them all. Thanks for watching ✌️
But since you pull it to turn of the water do you have to push it back in when you put the new valve on? I’m a woman and plan to do this myself so I wasn’t sure
I recommend replacing. The new valve is a multi turn valve… if you are asking how to turn on after replacing , its just turning the valve clockwise.
What if the pipes are coming up? Does this method still work?
Yes! Same thing whether they come from the floor or the wall.
Could you please explain how to attach bidet connection to existing flowtite pipe connection?
You can’t… you need to remove the flowtite shut offs and replace with a regular one.
Thank you for the video! Wish the pipes were copper in my house...
Yes! Many of these houses with cpvc pipes have issues. Thanks for watching
Mine is 20 years old and it just started to leak. Im about to do this. Thank you
That is the problem…we never know when these will fail, I’m glad you caught it on time. Good luck.
I'm a plumber, and sigh every time I see these. Pain in the arse to remove
I know right!!! These are the worst… thanks for watching 👍
How could I put this on 1/2 PEX?
Assuming you have PEX B, you could get a shut off valve that is crimped to the PEX and go from there. Here's one amzn.to/3OgcFxW. Good Luck!!👍🛠
What if you end up cutting the pipe coming out of the wall too short. Is there any way out ?
How short? Can you add a coupling to the pipe and extend? If not, you need to cut into the wall for the repair.
@@DIYPlumbingGuyYes I was thinking perhaps some kind of coupling. I assume the same type of cement can be used to secure two together ?
Thank you!
I’m happy to help! 👍
As a plumber, I recently replaced all of these stops in a house because one did blow off and flood a 3-story condominium. Why are these things even allowed to be installed to begin with? They are absolute trash.
So you left one pipe longer than the other? Coming out of the wall? You couldn’t make them even?
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Hey there! 🤣 Thanks a bunch for checking out the video and for having such a keen eye! - I admit, those pipes might have been in a bit of a competition to see which one could be longer. 🙈 But hey, making videos is a wild ride, and sometimes even the pipes want to add their own twist, right? Thanks for being understanding, and I promise the next ones will be perfectly even! Keep on watching and stay awesome! 👍🎥
@@DIYPlumbingGuy ok they better be even. You gave me your word. I’ll be looking forward to the next video now.
@@ecurb711 You're on! 👍 Next video will have those pipes perfectly in sync. Thanks for keeping an eye out and staying tuned! 🛠️🎥
If there's a next time you will be cutting a hole in wall on the short stub no pipe left for a new valve
Is this the same process for the water going to toilet?
Very similar, the only difference is the type/size of your water lines... most likely you will need one of these for your toilet.
www.amazon.com/Fluidmaster-B1T12CS-Connector-Braided-Stainless/dp/B005SPLBWS/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=water+supply+lines+for+toilet&qid=1680799388&sprefix=water+supplu+lines+for+to%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-5
What do I put on there as a shutoff if I have pex and don't have a pex tool
Great question!!!
If you have pex at home and don't have the tool, you can use a compression fitting, like this one.
www.amazon.com/BrassCraft-G2CR19X-C1-Compression-Outlet/dp/B003B6FKVY/ref=sr_1_57?crid=20HSE1FPIJZAC&keywords=compression+fitting+1%2F4+turn&qid=1679876895&sprefix=compression+fitting+1%2F4+turn%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-57
You will need to use a brass insert as well... Here it is.
www.amazon.com/Beduan-Compression-Fitting-Insert-Support/dp/B08HHXBK7V/ref=sr_1_2?crid=13IQDCJVRU7FM&keywords=compression+fitting+1+pex+sleeve&qid=1679876975&sprefix=compression+fitting+1+pex+sleeve%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-2
Good luck, thanks for watching!!
I may have to be doing this.
Yes! Check your plumbing.. I highly recommend this.
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Thank you sir
Welcome
Thank you. So helpful and easy to follow!
Thanks a bunch! Glad you found it helpful and easy to follow! If you ever need more tips, I'm here! 👍😊
Big help 🎉🎉🎉
Awesome!!! 👏
you convinced me! now to see if i can do it or call someone lol
Great! Yes, just take few hours of the day and knock these out. Hope it goes smoothly for you. 👍😊
Yes you can, you will need a T where the water hose connects to your toilet
I have a question. PVC glue can be used to connect Plastic & Metal?
No, you cannot use PVC cement for adhering Metal to Plastic. Also, there are specific types of PVC cement for specific applications, such as water, sewer, pressure, non-pressure, etc… I hope this clarification helps. And thanks for supporting the channel!!!!
Those angle stops he’s using are specific for cpvc. The body is made of metal but the inside where you put the glue is plastic