How to Replace a FlowTite Push/Pull Valve with a Standard Shut Off Valve for a Dishwasher
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- We are replacing a FlowTite push/pull valve under our sink. We are replacing it with a standard shut off value so work with the inlet pipe of our new KitchenAid dishwasher. These push/pull valves make it difficult to replace the water line due to the compression of the line. Replacing it with a standard value allows you to replace the water line if needed especially when replacing the dishwasher. This is a helpful tip in case your shut off valve under your sink is leaking.
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Technical what if question. Could you have used a push connect one piece supply line (if you were willing to spend the extra money) rather than cementing a new valve? Thanks for sharing your expertise.
This is the second one for the basement bat. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOuLt8IL_GxhhaK8DBuKEL-zV0UJVpWZn , works great
You're installing cpvc incorrectly. The cement isn't actually glue, it's a chemical reaction that fuses the two surfaces together. For that reason, you only rotate a 1/4 to no more than a 1/2 turn. Your twisting it as much as you do will likely result in leaks at some point.
Good advice.
Great Video - my exact issues - the crimped end started leaking after connecting the new dishwasher - I went to Home Depot, Lowes, and 2 local hardware stores and no-one had ever seen the push valve. I thought I was stuck with a plumber, but now have a way to fix it myself - thanks for posting.
Glad it helped
Use a small pipe cutter and place it on body of that plastic valve and slowly cut into it, then you will be able to disassemble it and not mess up your pipe. After removing the valve, install a threaded brass fitting so that you can thread on a new brass valve.
That’s exactly what I did since the cpvc sticking out was already a minimal amount. Now I can just thread on new valves in 10-15 years 👍
Wow! I can't believe that I sat through this whole thing. It was so interesting.
I can't believe I filmed it. LOL. But it is kind of interesting. Especially when learning something that might negatively impact your house. Crazy. Glad I got rid of it. No leaks yet on the new dishwasher. Thank you for watching. We appreciate it.
Design by plumbers because they make a ton of money having you call them back because you can't take the connector off or you need to replace the valve
Never thought of that, but seems to make sense.
Well done, young grasshopper! 😅
Oh we got grasshoppers out here. I was riding the zero turn and they just kept landing in my lap. What the heck? I need to swat them or something. Maybe buy some lizards to eat them. I don't know. Thanks for watching. We appreciate it.
Just ran into same problem. Thanks for the video!! Who would install these horrible crimped hoses?? geez.
Cheap home builders. That's who. The one building this house was notorious for being cheap, cutting corners and doing a lot of wrong things. Our house was built in 2005 and has all sorts of things wrong that we found, such as the exterior vinyl around some windows causing water leaks, our sliding glass door leaks due to bad install, etc. Luckily I was able to fix this myself and get the dishwasher installed. Thanks for watching. I'm sorry you ran into the same problem. Hope you got it fixed.
Manufactured who invented the fittings hopefully they out are out of business.
I agree. Seems popular among cheap builders.
Lefty loosey tighty righty! Basic knoeledge
i just paid a plumber 150 dollars to change 2 for me lol trip charge, parts and labor.
U have to pull and spin same time for flow tite horrible things
Add that I initially ran into this late at night and had to wait til the next day to get the replacement valves. Plural. Bad flow tite and one of the faucet valves was bad. Glat it's out. No leaks yet, the new dw install has held up for the last two years.
I was able to take it off, just by unscrewing it counterclockwise
Better pray that valve doesn't blow off you'll be in deep sit problem with most plumbers is shut off valves are so tight to wall you cant cut it,then your cutting open walls cabinets etc extending pipe
Thank you. So far so good. I agree with you that some of the cutoff valves under sinks and near toilets don't have much wiggle room to redo repairs.
Great job Eric, and able to film it! So, do you not cuss or did you take it out during editing?
Yeah he took the cussing out lol!!
@@BlueRidgeMountainHomestead lol
@@BlueRidgeMountainHomestead I really appreciate that, I've been referencing this video a lot with little ones around. The extra effort is massively appreciated!
I don’t think you really need the double adapters.
Awesome job Eric! True handyman. Very impressed. Be well!
Thank you Millie. Amy's testing my usefulness here. That's for sure. Staying safe.
I had the same valve on my toilet and for the first time in 7 years pulled to stop the water. Broke/leaked. Your video helped. Thank you.
Sorry about the mess, but glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
Those are total garbage, very hard to open and close the "valve", run the risk of breaking plastic water pipe when trying to close the valve. I prefer ball valves.
I agree
Those FlowTite valves are the work of the devil.
I hope to never have to work on one again. I agree. They are aweful.
I can't thank you enough for making and sharing this video! I needed to install a water filter that was incompatible with the flow tite valve/crimped hose combo. Thank you for such clear instructions on removal and replacement! I was thrilled to be able to re-tackle this project and have success!
You're welcome! Glad I could help.
Thanks for showing this process. I have a simple question. why cannot you use the original Flowtite push/pull valve with the new dishwasher? It was working with the old dishwasher.
Thank you for asking. This valve had a crimped connection to a dishwasher water supply vinyl tubing. That is, when I bought a new stainless steel water supply line, it could not connect to the push/pull valve. The old dishwasher was disgusting, and I wanted to remove everything connected to it and start over with my new dishwasher. If I had more room, I could have just cut the line to the valve and remove it that way. In this case, I wanted to preserve as much CPVC line as possible in order to install my new valve, which then allowed me to install my new stainless steel line.
I hope that all makes sense. Thank you very much for watching. We appreciate it.
Thank you. The Flowtite valve is connected to a crimped vinyl water supply line for the dishwasher. In other words, there is no way to remove the vinyl line and replace with anything, such as my new stainless steel line. That was the main reason. The other reason is that these valves are very cheaply made and can leak with no repair option other than removing it. Thus I feel I killed two birds with one stone.
Id like to seen the water a crually run after you were done btw
Sorry about that. This was a piece of my dishwasher install. I filmed most of that install and will have to edit it. If you do come back to watch that video, I'll be sure to put a part in there of the dishwasher filling up. Perhaps bonus points if I film a part with turning this valve off so you can see (and hear) the water stop filling. Nothing about this was fun, but it's over (and it works). No leaks since I did this.
Amy and Eric, can we see the actual dishwasher install? This is kinda cool.
Hey Jessica! The dishwasher install video will be up in a few days. I am so glad to have it installed.
@@BlueRidgeMountainHomestead Eric, I can't explain it, but you and Amy have drawn me right into your move. I am surprised myself. LOLOLOL!
@@jessycastansbury-mccargo8898 Thank you. We were so busy trying to get out of the other house that we didn't have time to unpack anything here until recently, including this computer I'm on that has all of Amy's files for the homestead channel. So we should be getting the dishwasher video edited soon.
I'm sorry. When we finally reviewed my footage of the install, it was incomplete. It was midnight when I was trying to install the dishwasher, and it was the worst/most difficult install I ever had. The flooring is unlevel, the clearance was tight, and I almost was unable to remove the old dishwasher due to the brackets kept snagging on the cabinets. I think it might have been entertaining for others to watch, but from a practicable viewpoint, there was nothing good about watching me install it. I might had to drink some beer before reliving the experience (if I had made a video of it). I'm sorry about the delay. I'm glad you enjoyed this video.
Do you need to turn off main water line to change that valve?
Yes.
Yes. Most bathrooms and Kitchen plumbing will require the main line to be turned off.
Great stuff and extremely helpful! Much obliged and appreciative. The step by step process flowed well and was informative. Thanks
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching. Hope you got yours out with not much difficulty.
Excellent video!! Showed just what I needed to know! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏
Thank you.
I have these push pull valves but they are connected to a copper pipe? What should I do?
I'm not a plumber, but if you can talk to one or to someone more knowledgeable. Perhaps you cut it out and sweat a set of connectors as needed to put in a valve more compatible with copper piping.
Thanks for the video. Bought a house and it has these types of valves. The one in the kitchen has a slight leak and was very confused at what I was looking at.
Glad I could help. I was looking at this at midnight. I was very confused myself until I figured out what I was dealing with.
Good job !! Thanks for sharing..
Thanks for watching!
These push pull valves are such trash.
So true!
Omg yes I have so many of these in my mobile home and currently replacing most of them, such a flawed design.
Pull and turn to your left at the same time it will come right off pull and turn pull and turn 👍🏾
I love you for this video
Glad I could help. Those things are a pain.
Whoever designed a valve like this should be sent to jail for life!
I agree.
Nice video! this helped out a lot.
Thank you. Glad it helped.
I have problem with my one old commercial plastic toilet valve. Suddenly, It doesn’t supply water at all. Everything else in the house water works. Do you know what the problem is if you can help? Thanks I appreciate it!
I opened the hose still no water
With toilets I would guess the valve in the tank could be bad or the valve in the bathroom near the toilet could be bad. You would have to isolate them to see if you have water coming to the valve in the tank (if not then see if you have water coming to the valve outside the tank). But due to possible messes, you may need to turn off the water to the house and have someone inspect the valve for you. I don't wish plumbing troubleshooting on anyone. I hope the best for you.
When you glue pvc pipe connection the scratches and rough surface where the glue touches it actually make connection stronger, so there was no reason to cut the part of the pvc pipe with the rough surface.
Thank you. I agree. I don't mind a little roughness, but am concerned about anything deep. That metal part that digs into the CPVC can be a problem. I just wanted it to have less chance of something leaking since this had to be a "one and done", unlike outdoor pvc/sprinker piping repairs where you have lots of room.
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Great help!
Thank you.
Wow, love how you think thing through! Great work!👍🏻
Thank you. The two things I learned is that I was not happy with the crimped on supply hose to the dishwasher. The other is how cheap these plastic parts are. I replaced the kitchen faucet two weeks ago and had to replace those valves too since one didn't work at all (would not turn). This house is only 16 years old and the valves are not reliable. I'm hoping the new valves work longer. Thank you for watching.
Why would you put the adhesive on the inside of the pipe?
So helpful! Thank you
Thank you for watching. Glad I could help.
Hello could you please help me, I have a push pull valve, can we still install the t connector that goes to the hot water sink faucet ? Your help is greatly appreciated
I would think if your push/pull valve is still operational that you can still use it. Many people hate them and want to get rid of it due to reliability issues. I only ditched mine because I didn't like the crimped dishwasher water supply line.
Great video
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video
You're welcome!
Diyer: complains about cheap stop.
Also diyer: uses an equally cheap stop.
A little more information. About two weeks ago when I replaced the kitchen faucet, one of the valves would not turn. This house is only 16 years old. The other valve turned, but I decided to replace them. I used Ace Hardware's 1/4 turn ball valves. The one in this video cost around $9 and not sure of it's "cheapness" or ability to work after 10 years. Ditto on the more expensive Ace Hardware valves. But we'll see. Hope you enjoyed this video.
Appreciate the video. I couldn't figure out how to take the push/pull valve off. This was just what I needed.
For those looking for the quick answer go to 4:30 in the video. Rotate them counterclockwise to remove them.
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching. These things don't make much sense.
I’ve twisted and twisted and mine won’t come off. Grr!
Flow "tite" vales are junk. Pushing and pulling on it will loosen it up and cause it to leak.
This was a total surprise to me. This is the first house that I have lived in that was built around 2005, thus having these in there. The fact that the supply hose was crimped to this junk really set me off. I'm not saying any other valve won't fail because I already had a few that needed replacement. But as you said, these things will leak if you start pushing/pulling on them. It had to go!
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Talk way too much . . .
Then click a different video or turn your volume off you troll, good lord. Some people, puts a informative video out to help, nobody made you click on it.
I prefer to explain things to those that want to learn something. Perhaps TikTok is more your style.
Tin snips on a rubber hose?
Most of my tools were at the other house. I would have used a box cutter had I had one laying around. But the tin snips did the job and were handy.
Thanks so much we were about to call plumber after installing dishwasher ourself and running into this shit.
One thing about these is when pressure in water lines drops they pop randomly and people dont understand why their water seems to not work any longer
Oh nice? They're sensitive to water pressure drops? Oh. Another reason to rip these out. Thanks. LOL.