You are so beautiful!! I'm a cosmetic formulator and what she's referring to when she says moisture from the air, formulators use humectants such as glycerin, honeyquat, 1,3 Propendial, etc. Now here is the tricky thing if a person lives in an harsh environment, the air can actually draw that water back out of the hair, which causes frizz! This is why film formers are so important to lock in the moisture from the air which we use humectants. This is why film formers like petrolatum, aka grease which ppl hate these days and a silicone called dimethicone are important to lock in that moisture from the air, to help reduce frizz. & Yes coconut oil penetrates into the scalp because it is an monounsaturated, but it is very comedogenic, which can work against the dermal papilla which is responsible for our hair receiving its nutrients and oxygen which helps with hair growth & water is not just used as a solvent but to moisturize as well, because emollients are used to make the hair soft which ppl confuse with moisturization.
@@owamuhmza I believe the report grease is great for low porosity hair!! It locks in the nutrients of what we put on our hair, which cause those products to work effectively because their locked in! We've used it for ages, so I never understood why the BC acts brand new with grease!
@@KYESHAKNOWSSKIN I think it’s a case of being blown by every wind of hair care doctrine🤣🤣🤣 also, grease is cheap in comparison to these new fangled creams and butters so of course they would demonize grease to make a buck. I don’t like having a sore scalp or tumbleweed strands so I’m a grease stalwart for life even if it’s not bourgeois enough🤷♀️
How about this analogy... Leather is also another dead animal product that is no longer connected to its living source. There's super soft, pliable buttery leather, and then there's super dry crispy brittle leather akin to a tortilla chip.
This is a great video, but we're talking about two different types of hair textures here. While some of her references may not be for African hair she does have truths to some of her claims. I wish we had more research on Afro hair. A lot of us are just doing trials and errors to grow our hair.
Yeah, Sarah herself has said in some of her videos that there is little scientific research for coily/curly hair. That's why a lot of her stuff mainly applies to a straighter type of hair. It does suck that there's not enough attention paid to other hair types.
Almost all the stuff she mentioned is based on the curly girl method. I really thought the protein-moisture balance thing was real. As a scientist I have to give her a shout out- finding, reading, understanding and then explaining peer reviewed articles is hard for a laymen! She did a great job
i love how the “curly girl method” is based on ppl with straight or wavy hair “figuring out” that they had curly hair (ie they learned how to *style* it)
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans I’d say it’s more like people with already existing wavy or curly hair patterns figuring out how to care for & style it so it actually LOOKS wavy or curly (& hopefully pretty as well.) The CGM wouldn’t do anything for straight hair bc you can’t change the pattern your hair grows in.
I really liked her video because she brought home the point that what someone feels as dry hair could literally just be their natural hair texture. I feel in the natural hair community, a big reason why people are obsessed with heavy butters and oils is because they override the cottony/bumpy texture that a lot of naturals have. Conditioning agents make our hair feel smooth and look shinier than it might naturally be, and we’ve come to associate those traits with being moisturized or healthy. We’re well into the natural hair movement yet we’re still being sold often unattainable hair goals in the form of shiny, perfectly spiralled curls. Of course, many of us can achieve that look by using method such as shingling but that can be so time consuming and is ultimately unnecessary. It’s good to know that my frizzy curls have just as, and potentially even more “moisture” then my perfectly styled curls.
I use heavy butters and oils because high porosity and trying to trap some moisture or even just product in my hair. In like a few days I have to reapply products because my hair has like nothing. Only thing that really helps is regular deep conditioning treatments.
Yes! I have fine, straight hair and always feel like an idiot when I listen to curly haired women because I've been so uneducated about it all. I'm here for the learning experience. Give me all the science!
@@Mariah203 ALSO, I really recommend everyone check out the video she did on Instagram on shampooing. It's called "How did we spend hours talking about shampoo???" And was published Nov 21, 2020. It's like almost 3 hours worth of history on Black hair and REALLY dense in helpful and useful information.
She was. She makes a few small disclaimers in her video about the differences in the way you condition should absolutely be different depending on hair texture. I was a little wary of the video at first because it could have easily ended up using insensitive language (i.e. "curly"="coarse") from someone with straight hair like her. But she was really consistent about the way she talked about it which made me so happy.
@@donnabent8317 To be honest, as a curly haired person, I didn't find her video very relevant to me. My hair needs moisture and moisture from the air or just water really isn't going to cut it.
I can totally understand why some people would think that. If proteins "fill in the gaps" and provide a barrier to help prevent moisture from escaping your hair, then it's reasonable to assume that barrier would also prevent moisture from getting in. A barrier is a barrier. We now know that assumption was wrong but the misconception is certainly understandable.
I'm a real one and I just subscribed SO FAST! My TH-cam suggestions did not let me down, you broke this down so amazingly as a true curly girl haha. Curly hair is different, it definitely needs CONDITIONING but porous hair that looses it's water content? Yeah, in my experience as a hairstylist, it could use some "moisture" and hydration, too. I'll be sharing this video to anyone that asks me to react, because honestly you just did that. Thank you x1000000
@@bookaholicSimi her tone was very condescending. I get that curly girls don’t like it when on curly girls talk about curly hair, but we must be open minded. Many people who have watched this video can agree with me. There’s no need for condescending behavior among women. Especially strong women.
Finally a hair scientist! I’ve been looking for you. literally. Awesome video, subscribed so fast! I find it so hard making videos on hair care, I try my best to be factual but there’s so much hearsay, researching it is difficult and the science can be confusing! I really appreciate the information you’re sharing, I hope to see more from you x
"I'm a real one" and totally confused right about now, LOL! Please do a video on the differences/comparisons between moisturizing and condtitioning. Really appreciate what you do. Blessings.
Hahaha thanks girl! I'll put that video in the pipelines for sure. But honestly you have no reason at all to be confused. I believe her main point was more to do with the semantics than anything else. Moisture is good, it benefits your hair, but as with everything, it's not the only important thing, and overdoing it can be problematic. As long as you're not keeping your hair perpetually wet, for the most part, I think you're fine.
You are ME!!! I had to rewind and pause to process all that info just to find out that maybe I don't understand English, LOL. I'm good with English, I just need a nap to recharge my brain. Ima watch it again, LOL
I just want my hair to stop breaking in the back of my head. I've tried everything except a silk pillow or bonnet to sleep in. I feel like I'll never have hair past my shoulders ever again.
@@rachelg9873 same. I used to have beautiful hair and did nothing special to it. In the past 2 1/2 yrs my hair has been at its worst state. Nothing but breakage and its just overall out of shape. I had to cut it shoulder length (so about 10 inches off), and it still looks its worst. The only thing i can think of would be my diet. I eat nothing but sugar and fast foods. Eating healthy is my last hope at this point
Sarah: "Too much protein blocks water from getting into your hair (supposedly)" Afope: "If you think or have ever thought that protein stops your hair from absorbing moisture... that's not the case at all. If anything proteins by virtue of the fact they fill in the gap between cuticles actually helps your hair to retain moisture and actually slow the rate of moisture loss from your hair" Me: I'm confused now because it seems like Afope is saying that protein creates a barrier to retain and prevent moisture loss, so wouldn't that also mean that the protein barrier would block water from getting into the hair? If a barrier stops things from leaving wouldn't it also stop things from entering? I know the cuticle is a two-way door but is protein only a one-way door?
@@hayesramirosa5998 okay so as a humectant the protein would be attracting water which is what Afope meant by it "helps your hair to retain and actually slow the rate of moisture loss." I think I understand better, thank you!
@@sierrasierra2595 as proteins are humectans - they draw water from the air into the hair, i guess too much proteins draw too much water, and that's why the hair feels brittle and "dry" ( i mean soaked up with too much water lol!). I don't know, this might be it and i totally agree that "ballance is key", too much of anything is never good.
People wondering if the video was even for curly haired people, I asked her about it in her comments (Sarah ingles), she was really sweet and answered all my questions. right after I did she started addressing curly people in the comments. She said that this info is actually incredibly helpful for curly hair and actually better information for curly hair, because our hair is chemically the same thing. But in her second video she does admit that curly hair specifically black hair has the little research. All that being said, considering it exactly why I don’t believe the advice really applies to at least African American hair, she’s also using one site of research as well as saying your hair doesn’t need water at all. She’s good at what she does but the book definitely wasn’t aimed at black or or even primarily or partially research on ethnic hair at all and thou it’s a small amount of time the book came out in 2012 I believe which means we are looking at research for a less African American hair/ curly hair friendly time such as early 2000 and maybe even the 90s. Curly hair isn’t an umbrella and is often used for looser curls or even just means - not black people hair. Information about terms was awesome but saying allllll hair is the same just because is chemically the same is absolutely false and the quickest way to get African American hair broken off. I even tried really primarily on humidity for my hair moisture I thought it worked at first but as time went on no matter how much conditioning I put on my hair and clarified or whatever she was her happiest after getting some water 🤷🏿♀️ it think that matter is that it's not adding up to say hair doesn't need water especially curly hair I think more research would be awesome instead of older research maybe both of these videos can strike up a conversation and do more research into black hair like new studies.
Hi! Actually - as a young girl with curly hair my mother did teach me to add water to my hair to reduce the frizz. Like pat it down. Of course it didn't work for more than a second but her video actually did clarify why for me XD
I live in a desert and my hair actually looks best after I’ve had a steamy shower or misted my hair with water. I’m sure climate has a lot to do with it. When you live in a desert, your hair probably really does need more moisture.
could you react to “no poo” methods and the theory behind that movement? ive seen them say that shampoo is overly drying/damaging, conditioner just sits on top and makes it feel healthy, and the whole thing is a vicious, unnatural cycle to make money. ive also seen them say as an alternative you should wash your hair with eggs, baking soda + apple cider vinegar, honey, aloe, water only + preening, tea, etc.
@@lisastromsholm5171 I'm a bit late here, but I'd like to search for that video if she made one already. I'm so glad I learned my lesson when I tried to wash my hair with baking soda as a teenager because "shampoo bad." NEVER AGAIN!! My hair is dense and curly. I never spent so much time detangling in my life after I used baking soda to shampoo. It took several showers for me to completely rinse all the baking soda out. Apple cider vinegar helped, but seemed to make detangling worse. It was so bad that I wish I had to power to prevent others from making that grave mistake.
Holy crap, I just googled the hair drying article you referenced and the conclusion is that using a hair dryer at a distance of 15cm causes less damage than air drying. That is insane! I've air dried for so long because I've been growing my hair and I could have (and should have) been blow-drying it!! I'm subscribing right now. Thanks for the education!
Do you happen to remember if it mentioned whether the temperature mattered, like whether it needs to be on one of the typical settings of cool, warm, or hot?
@@0faerieberry0 The hotter it was the more damage occurred on the outer layer of the hair. So use as low a heat as possible. There is another video by the same woman where she blow-dries her hair on a low heat with a heat protectant on her hair. Hope that helps :)
We’ve all tried a water based product to reduce frizz. Every time we’ve done it is because we didn’t believe that a thick product with the first ingredient as water would make our hair revert. 😆
@@ray9209 I still believe that it really depends on individual hair. That’s why we hear people say all the time... a product does or doesn’t “work” for their hair. Not all hair responds to the same things. I would go even further to say that not all things have the same effect every time. Basically, I just believe that there are entirely too many variables out there ( condition of a person’s hair “healthy/damaged”, build up from previously used products, etc. and something I recently discovered ( much to my frustration) changes in physical health and female hormones and the effects they have on hair. My bottom line... as is widely said... not everything applies to everyone. Period.
@@cfoster6804 I spray my hair with water to reset it when I’m not going to shampoo so if water isn’t good what do you use and my hair doesn’t seem to do well with oils makes my hair dry.
I will say I’ve seen the whole protein preventing moisture absorption misconception A LOT in the natural community especially with the DIY rice water craze, I think there’s a huge gap between the videos most people with natural hair encounter and the videos people with natural hair (who actually know about hair) encounter and watch all the way through
@@kaamilahli2176 Oh I put a good link in the message. I guess it didn't send. It's called something like wet hair stretch test? You wet a few hairs, wait a bit to let the water soak in and stretch the hairs. Healthy hair bounces back like a rubber band. Not enough protein makes it stretch far and not go back, while not enough moisture makes it break fast.
I’m a real one! I know that when I say my hair is moisturized, that the product has emulsified enough to provide ingredients to slow the rate of water releasing from the hair. Which is why I love my products to be applied on wet hair instead of dry or damp hair.
I never comment on videos, but I just wanted to say that I feel that this video was made with good intentions. As Sarah seems to pride herself on being TH-cam’s “Rapunzel”, I didn’t take those comments to be condescending. If you do both have the same level of qualifications, then your review is no less valid. Peers can review each other’s work and offer constructive criticism! That can be very valuable! :) I’m sure you don’t need me to “defend” you, but I really hope you don’t get any nasty comments
Omg. Me too! I rarely comment, esp to other commenters, but I had to a few times under this video because I didn’t see any ill-intent in this video. I watched it twice to make sure I wasn’t loosing it. I loved Sarah’s video on a scientific level and this one spoke to me on a more personal level. I appreciated both points of view and delivery. Both were such good informative content. How is it turning so messy. Smh.
@@kasisweetie2493 You should see the comments the other girl got after this video was posted. She was called racist, jealous, underqualified because she wasn't a scientist, entitled and told to shut up because she didn't have curly hair.. Not that I'm justifying what is happening here, but I'm pretty sure it's comments like those that made her snap and now the snap back from her community is happening. If you do not believe me go look at the video in this video and set your filter on "recent comments." Her community post sprung up not too after the newer not so nice comments appeared. (I mean give and take a few days, it probably festered) Though she was talked down on in this comment section by people as well. Even saw her get defended by this channel's owner because someone went too far. It's sad how it's mostly just hateful people in the comment sections that caused this for the most ridiculous reasons. Bringing people down for what? There was no reason to slam down on Sarah like that.
@@ina7084 I hear you. Afope didn’t make any of those outrageous, ridiculous comments though. I don’t condone that crap. Sarah doesn’t deserve that. At the same time that doesn’t change the fact that this youtuber didn’t do those things. This video wasn’t degrading and the presenter wasn’t misleading. She wasn’t toxic. And she definitely isn’t the cause of the problem of women tearing each other down in this space. Those accusations toward this TH-camr by Sarah were way off target. Sarah’s post was a tantrum with misdirected feelings to the wrong person/people. This youtuber agreed with Sarah. She encouraged people to watch the entire video. She was nodding through out the viewing. I also read her checking a negative comment, giving “all due respect and props” to Sarah, saying that she did an “incredible job with the research” and that she “really enjoyed her video” and acknowledged the hard work she must have done. She didn’t tear her down. She can’t be responsible for other people’s idiocy. Reaction videos aren’t uncommon on TH-cam. Some are awful but in my opinion this was not. The whole situation makes me a bit sad for them both. I think that if this youtuber knew about what was being said in Sarah’s comments she would have came out and defended Sarah and shut those folks down. But after this attack...
@@kasisweetie2493 You basically said what I was thinking!! Sarah has had some horrible comments which were not deserved. I can understand why she’s upset. HOWEVER I just don’t feel that any of that hate should be redirected towards this video or Afope! This video was not malicious or condescending. In fact they mostly agree with each other! And it’s probably useful to a lot of people to hear an opinion from somebody with a different hair type, whose hair needs will be different.
@@nats7762 Exactly! but Afope is already getting those weird microagressions of people calling her rude and aggressive when the video clearly isnt like that. I just wish that Sarah had been more thoughtful with her statement bc now her fans are in Afope´s comments being racist
I've usually found that when people do these "scientific studies" most times people of color are not whom their targeted study/research is comprised of so there outcome isn't normally for us. Thank you, a very interesting video. Always a real one here.
Yes Sarah also mentions that several times. She always tries to include other hair textures but she wants the things she says to be science based but coily hair or typical hair textures of pocs often aren't included in those studies. Both Sarah and Afope went to the same school and got the same certificate. But in this case Afope has the "advantage" that she has personal experience with her hair type so she can give more advice on that than Sarah can.
@@ducklingscap897 they don't have the same certification. Afope is a trichologist with 3 years of experience, Sarah is a hair practitioner with a degree from 2020. They are not the same.
If youre referring to Sarah not specifically talking about curly and coily hair in her video or not focusing on it when she was researching...shes not a hair scientist or someone developing products. She has straight/slightly wavy hair so thats obviously going to be what she focuses on and talks about since its what she knows and is interested in.
@Snowchild did you @ me by mistake or what? I did not even address any of that. I corrected the commenter who said they had the same qualifications. They don't. Go back and read it again.
Quick google of “protein overload” shows every result on the first page say that too much protein blocks moisture... so you might not have heard it, but I’d say an awful lot of people believe it!
Water actually make my hair brittle and dry and it tends to fall out more/breaks if doesn’t have oil in it. I think problems is that hair science she found is actually geared more towards white women and their hair. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen them with super dry hair yet they’ll complain their hair is oily. It’s not so much the hair, but rather your scalp. Dry scalp = dry hair; oily scalp = oily hair. For those that are black, our hair is naturally a bit more on the drier side. I think the issue is that people think dry hair is the same has having damaged hair and it’s not. If your hair gets too dry, it can become damaged, and if your hair is to oily, it also becomes damaged cuz the oil can clogg pores and hair follicles. Reality is that it just comes down on your skin/scalp, and genetics. I personally don’t put moisturizers in my hair as I feel they make my hair much drier than what it is naturally. I use conditioners, and oils like tea tree oil, jojoba oil, coconut oils, and olive oils. Most of the products I use are oil based rather than water base cuz water does remove your hairs natural oils as well as shampoo. The oils help keep my scalp moist while also protecting my hair, all the while adding shine.
Thank you for this info! I personally actually get contact eczema from things like tea tree oil. But definetly gonna look at the coconut oil! Does it also work for wavy hair?
@@princessmanitari4993 yes! In fact coconut and olive oil are the only two oils that penetrate the hair as opposed to just sealing in moisture. So you’re getting all those good nutrients and antioxidants every time you apply them.
@@princessmanitari4993 did you use tea tree essential oil? That may be why, also try cold pressed jojoba oil, it’s light weight and really locks in moisture. For me it gets rid of itchiness and flakes
@@princessmanitari4993 yes!!! My hair is curly and kinky and I use it. I use the oils by themselves; I have other hair products argot incorporate them like SheaMoisture.
I really enjoyed your video. The title was misleading since you agreed with much of what Sarah said. But, with your different hair experiences, I would totally subscribe to a Dynamic Duo channel! Or even some videos together. Celebrate differences and point out similarities cos hair products kill my wallet and I need you both!💕
Weird when I watched the video, it seemed like she did say water damage is a thing. It seemed like she was criticizing them only giving a term to water when lots of things have the ability to do that.
I'm a real one. I moisturize AND condition my hair on the regular! Call it whatever you want. My hair has done a 180 since you dropped the knowledge re: film forming humectants! (THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!) I'm so glad that I found your channel.
I agree! Too much protein on low porosity hair can block moisture and I've seen videos abt this where women's hair literally knotted up, locked and broke off.
I feel like it's similar to nail health, since hair is made of keratin just like nails, but just arranged differently, with an inner shaft full of pigment. With nails, you want a balance between hardness and strength. Too hard but not strong, you get brittle nails. Too moisturized or flexible, but not hard, you get bendy splitting nails. If you have both, you get hard nails that are also strong enough to take some impact without shattering, but not bending too much. This is why nails get really soft and fragile too when wet for too long. Keratin in nails can get waterlogged in a way, unless you have them moisturized with oil to protect them longer. This is why I have better nails when I wear gloves to wash dishes and moisturize hands after washing hands a lot (especially during the covid pandemic changes and everyone providing now alcohol hand sanitizer). This is why biotin supplements didn't do much for my nails but calcium+vit d. Supplements Made them noticeably longer because I want lacking protein, but I was leaving calcium so my nails were often soft, but they got harder, once I got enough calcium. Afaik, oils protect hair from water frizzing and protein is for the insides, the inner keratin shaft. Your diet and overall health and growth hormones, (or possibly protein treatments) are for the inner part of the hair, and oils are for keeping the outer part smooth.
Yup... I don't know hair science but I know that doing protein treatment in-between hydration and nutrition saved my hair big time. It was extremely damaged and porous, dead curls. Now I have curls again lol
Yes, please do make a video about moisturizing VS conditioning - that would be super helpful. And thank you for all the valuable content you are producing, it is much appreciated.
She did not say hygral fatigue did not exist or that protein overload didnt exist. She was just explaining it so the marketing did not confuse us. She did great.
I, for one, did hear about protein/moisture overload and did imagine like my hair is like a sponge, picking up moisture from a product while becoming smoother. Obviously, I no longer believe those things. I *think* you and Sarah's difference of perspective might come from the fact that she does not think that much in curly/coily hair terms, even though she makes a conscious effort to include every hair type in her content. Until you said so, I (with my wavy hair) could not imagine why someone would want to moisturize their hair in the sense that they want it to be bigger, less smooth and more textured. It makes more sense now. ps. I am a real one.
I can’t tell you how many hairdressers have told me my hair is dry. I knew this was bs a long time ago. I have very curly hair and if it’s humid my hair will always seem dry and frizzy, despite lots of conditioning and care.
I literally watched Sarah's video right before I seen this video and I'm so glad you made it. You explained everything so well. It was easier to understand way less confusing. Btw your so beautiful!! For sure going to be watching more of your videos
Maybe it depends on hair type. I spray my hair with water to get rid frizz before I do something like braid it, but yeah, once the water dries off of it if I didn't braid it or anything, yeah it's going to be frizzy all over again...
I live in Miami and I use a hair serum that has DIMETHICONE in it literally transforms my color treated hair I think it has something to do with blocking the excess moisture
I’m naturally 4C and my hair looks better when it has been “plumped “ from humidity in the air, spritzing or after washing.. otherwise it becomes “flat” from stretching
I'm a real one.... I'm also a man that's interested in getting a better understanding of hair care in general. I'm also a licensed barber. I see different types of hair at many different lengths on a daily basis. This video enlightened but also confused me. Please make another follow up video to this! I want to be able the guide but not necessarily teach my customers and clients to a better understanding of protecting their hair. Not just their hair but mine as well.
I like this reaction a lot because Sarah has a degree (or more?) in marketing, so her POV is from a marketing perspective and she is making distinctions, but you have an actual background in hair science and you go more into detail on what she is talking about and the limits of the research and what we do and don't know.
Im so sorry that those women are taking this video and twisting your words, calling you aggressive, rude and what not. Yt ppl love discrediting and putting poc ”on their place”. its so sick
@@ravenwilson7979 She clearly agrees with most of Sarah’s points, only calls her elsa/rapunzel bc Sarah presented herself as “real life rapunzel”. So why are so many people calling her rude and aggressive when she’s only presenting a different point of view? That’s a microaggression. If you look up Afope’s credentials you would see that she’s more experienced than Sarah. (which you can easily find with a quick linkedin search or a look at her website, or her about tab) You can see in the video that Afope looks for Sarah’s credentials, but in her about tab she doesn’t mention anything about being a trichologyst. How would Afope know about her title when she hadn’t mentioned it anywhere? So she treats her as a curious person with an interest in haircare, which is how Sarah presents herself in the video.
@@ravenwilson7979 In no way Afope mislead anyone, prior to Sarah’s post no one knew that she was a trichologist. Also, the title says “Hair Scientists” and if you check the description she mentions that her friend is a trichologist and a biomedical scientist. But that’s besides the point, Afope never discredited Sarah, she made funny lighthearted comments about how different curly hair is compared to straight hair. The only sarcasm she uses is when she explain that no one would moisturize their hair after getting a silk press. At the end she clearly agrees with Sarah and recommends her audience to check her channel. I don’t see why she deserves to be called a mean girl or be “put in her place” over that.
Same. I was told by stylist after stylists that with curly hair , frizz is just dehydrated curls so if my hair is frizzy in it’s naturally curly state it’s BC it’s not moisturized enough
A lot of black women think protein blocks out water just like they think silicones and petroleum prevents moisture from getting into hair. Which is not true since even after using grease hair can still get wet but, oh well. I stopped listening to the bulk of natural hair rules, they just don’t make any sense.
Water repels from oil, grease and wax. Hair can be wet but will not enter the hair shaft cause water will repel. This is a fact. Everything needs to be deep cleansed and clarified to let water peneterate hair shaft again.
@@suneasha2191 Nope. Your comment is a contradiction. For one, for hair to be wet it needs to absorb enough water. So if your hair is wet clearly there is water that got inside and didn’t get repelled by any product. Two, oils/wax/silicones repel water yes. But unless you put a whole jar of any of these products in your hair, that dime size of oil or hair grease will never fully coat each and every strand on your head perfectly to “seal” the way you think it does. Not only that over the course of the day those oils get absorbed into your hair and rub of on clothes, pillows etc. You know that gorilla glue girl? That’s a perfect example of perfectly sealed hair. Oils, silicones, grease etc can’t do that, doesnt matter how much they repel water.
I love love love your channel! I subscribed after i watched one video 2 days ago. You are my kind of girl: short videos, to the point and most important sciencebased information! Please keep doing this kind of videos. Really appreciate what you do for us curly girls! Greetings from Belgium 😍
Water can help get rid of frizz. Like you said, it helps reform the hydrogen bonds and re set it in place. That’s why when certain people refresh their curls they spray them with water and add product.
My friend kept putting straight aloe vera into my hair because it was "dry" and needed "moisture" but no matter how many times she did it, my hair felt "dry" and brittle. She ended up declaring that my hair was just too damaged to save and I agreed to let her cut it off. Clearly, thinking rough/brittle=needs moisture/moisturizer is a problem at least for some of us cause I super doubt my hair was just so dry it would drink the whole world's supply of aloe and still be thirsty... Only thing that thirsty is me for Chris Evans.
I love your smugness on your knowledge about hair ☺. As a white woman with a light wave and had no guidance for hair care beyond media and marketing(my mums only guidance was to brush my hair 100times a night...) I now look towards the only people who seem to know anything about hair which seems 9/10 to be the black community. I'm thrilled I've found this channel, I feel like I'm going to learn so much. Oh and I'm a real one.
Yaaay! So glad you've decided to stick around - I'm constantly learning, and the more I learn, the more I realise how much I actually don't know 😂But I shall continue to share what I'm learning/have learnt. 💛
@@AfopeAtoyebi the pursuit of knowledge is exciting too. You are passionate and entertaining, I'm so excited to learn, I spent a good hour reading all my shampoo, conditioner and masks with a smidge more of an idea of what I'm looking for. My hair will love me as much as I love it.
@@Kiki-7 Me too- I'm checking out all my products! Like you said- all my my Mom EVER told me about hair care was to brush it!(100x's) I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough to remember when "Cream Rinse" was a thing! Now we call it conditioner!! I love learning all this.
Here's to better cared for hair! We have a lot to learn! I'm 30 my mum is in her 70s she went to a convent boarding school and the nuns were ...oldschool.
I’m a real one 🙌🏻 That was very insightful, thank you. I think further explanation of moisture vs conditioning (vs hydrating?) could be really useful, thanks 🤩
I think moisture and hydrating are the same thing. There's only one type of moisture, and that's water. Meanwhile, conditioning helps retain the moisture.
“I’m a real one”. Thank you for this video, I also watched Sarah Ingle’s video and found it very insightful. I am happy that you were able to confirm many of the things she said and help clarify others. I would also like for you to do a video on the differences and comparisons between moisturizing and conditioning hair.
Thanks girl! I enjoyed watching (and reacting to) her video too. A lot of people have also mentioned the video on moisturising vs. conditioning so I've popped that in my content calendar pipeline 😊
This was about to make me nuts. I’ve been an educator and cosmetologist for over 20 years...you my dear are awesome and addressed this young lady’s video perfectly.
That “water to smooth down frizz” was ABSOLUTELY a thing for me when I was younger with a relaxer but the moment I went curly the only time I use water to tame frizz is when I’m styling my hair.
Never knew that setting with wet hair was bad!! I used to braid my straight hair and it would stay wet for hours and literally would be still wet in spots in the morning. oops
Sarah has a whole video about ph values in products. She seems to really want to make sure she’s covering her bases, especially since she isn’t a scientist.
Yesterday, youtube recommended me Sarah Ingle, today it recommended YOU. What can I say? I'm loving all this new knowlodge. Thank U! And for me, with my straight hair, dry hair looks the best.
I'm a real one! This is the first video of yours I have watched and I immediately subscribed! I am SO HERE for this content! (And trying so hard to make my curls grow past my shoulders without breakage)
"AIN'T NOBODY" I'm laughing SO HARD. I didn't wrap my freshly straighten 3c hair with a scarf on my way to school during rainy days for nothing HAHAHAHAHAHAH
It's really sad that the negative comments of a few brought the intent of this video into question. Trichology is the scientific study of hair and scalp. Afope and Sarah both had to get professionally certified to become Trichologists. If you would like to know Afope's qualifications, they're right on her Linkedin profile. (In case you don't feel like looking, she has a master's degree in science and has been a Trichologist for nearly 4 years. Technically, she has more professional experience than Sarah who got her Trichology certification in November 2020.) As for Afope referring to Sarah as Rapunzel and Elsa, Sarah refers to herself as Rapunzel. Sarah also has a video on her channel of her reenacting a scene from Frozen 2 dressed as Elsa, which I believe Afope was referencing. (Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/BjyEF4_ooD4/w-d-xo.html ) If Sarah doesn't want to be referred to as a princess, she may want to stop calling herself Rapunzel. Many times in this video, Afope agreed with Sarah. There were some things she disagreed with, but that doesn't equate to her being mean. I enjoyed both videos and felt like they helped me understand my hair better. I hope they can resolve this quickly and peacefully. They are both knowledgeable about hair and I would love to see them have a live chat about hair science.
Also they don't even have the same qualification. Afope is a trichologist, Sarah is not. Sarah is a Hair practitioner. It's an at-home shorter certification. To be a trichologist you submit course work, undergo clinical training and several exams.
It's interesting. Much of this is indeed semantics I think. I thought to leave a comment on her video, though decided against it as I don't think those with afro textured hair are exactly her target audience and our hair plays by a slightly different set of rules. I will say that I do tend to go for lighter weight conditioners that are marketed for smoothing or volumizing as oppose to "moisturizing" as those formulations tend to flatten/lower the cuticle better for me, which is key. I'll use the heavier stuff to style. In addition to conditioners, most afro textured hair in its natural state requires humectants (aka moisturizers), oils/lubricants and sealants in order to not feel hard and brittle to the touch. Even at its healthiest, my natural hair will not retain any hydration without some help. Also, the discussion regarding moisture protein balance is just language...build up vs overload, meh. People are describing very real phenomena they experience with their hair, regardless of whether or not they get the technical description or language precisely correct.
@@rachelg9873 basically don't sleep with wet hair and if your hair takes hours to dry naturally, you might wanna consider speeding things along with a hairdryer (cool setting unless you use a heat protector)
@@icarusgotooclose My hair takes hours to dry. It always has. But I have a lot of hair. It's fine but I have loads of it. I have long, healthy hair, no split ends.
@@pu5hida Oh okay, I haven’t blow dried my hair in years, I was worried if that was damaging it, I never sleep with wet hair so I should be good? My hair does take some hours to fully dry tho...is that damaging it?
Yaaaas! I literally going through the comments desperately finding anyone saying how to deal with frizz. Cause I am the dummy that thought water will fix the frizz 😂🤦 even though it never did work IRL. I don't know why I never thought of questioning that mindset lol.
This is soo not fair all of you are praising her for judging 200 hours of Sarah's research, she could give some comments but not in that way. Sarah is feeling soo down this is not okey other woman should help each other not tear each other down not to mention that youtube started taking down her video and promoting this woman. You literally profited off Sarah's research and hard time and after all the proof she has given you still dont like it??? I think you should apologize, you don't know how Sarah feels rn.
She didn't bring her down in any way. She was extremely respectful. When you post a controversial video, you speak in arrogant way and you bring entire natural hair community down you have to deal with the consequences. This is what happened to Sara. Action means reaction. Afope was extremely polite and she explained everything so well.
@@alexandra3857 This woman also claims she is a scientist when both her and Sarah have a certification from the same place and very similar qualifications. Whether it was intentional or not, this seriously undermines Sarah's qualifications and overblows the womans's in the video. Edit: On further inspection, a trichologist is considered a scientist in the UK, but not in the US. Therefore this may just be a cultural mix up.
Critiquing and disagreeing is now an offense that requires an apology, really. Sarah should be proud of her research not ‘feeling down.’ I loved Sarah’s video. Reaction videos are common on this platform some are awful but this was far from that. She did like Sarah’s video and actually encouraged her viewers to go watch the entire video. She agreed with most of what Sarah said, nodding throughout and explained the points that she disagreed with. Just because she presented the info from her point of view, as it pertains to her texture and her audience doesn’t mean she didn’t like the info. Get a grip. I didn’t interpret anyone tearing anyone down. If you think this is the worst thing that could happen on a public platform such as TH-cam then you are out of touch with reality.
@@ina7084 it is not about having a certification or not, it is about facts. Sarah brought entire natural hair community down with her "facts" which are actually not true. As a hair blogger myself I found her video misleading. Dry hair, hygral fatigue and protein moisture balance are real. All she needed to do is Google scholar search where there is lots of scientific based articles by actual dermatologist and board certified trichologyst which are proving what I just said. Afope had every right to express her opinion and react to video, it is very popular nowadays and I don't think she should get so defensive, especially because no one was being disrespectful towards her. I think people should start taking responsibility for their actions, once you do something controversial, you should know that not all the people are going to be happy about it.
@@alexandra3857 You are saying how Sarah is too sensitive while you also perceive her video as an attack on a whole community. Maybe you should check yourself as well and take some responisbility for your own feelings. She got many demeaning comments about herself in this comment section where even Afope had to defend her and a couple of nasty ones in her own after this video was posted. So I am not surprised that she reacted the way she did in the end. She consulted with hair experts before posting the content of the book and then she consulted with them afterwards and they had a consensus when it came to what she put out. Afope actually didn't really say anything too disagreeing until it came to the moisture part, but her friend's call was the most important part of this whole video because she is the actual expert and even she said that hair is the healthiest when it is hydrophobic aka she agreed with Sarah. When it comes to facts studies can point to a direction, but it is the consensus of the experts that agrees on what the facts are. Not the random studies.
Heeey Afope!! Thank you for reacting to this. I watched Sarah's video before because like you said that title was very interesting I had to click lol. Anyways, as confusing as it was to watch I get her overall objective from making the video, but it doesn't matter because ever since you schooled me on how to care for my unique hair needs and with me seeing consistent results I was like "thank you TH-cam!! this is all the hair science I need and I don't need to take in anymore information" lol. Forever Grateful to you and Narada my favorite hair tubers ❤️
omg! Yes! "I',m a real one." This was SO interesting! And I'm also a bit confused now. Please yes video about conditioning vs moisturizing products. I'd love to learn more about that! I am so happy to have discovered this Channel.
It's only damaging if your hair take hours to dry or if you live in a very humid climate with unprotected high porosity hair. Otherwise most people are fine
Sarah is right. The reason why our curly hair “loves water” is because it helps us comb it, style it- as hydrogen bonds are broken our curl pattern comes back, then we apply the products and wait for it to dry, products don’t trap moisture (water), they don’t have the ability or purpose to do that, they only try to keep the curls in place and define them so that water doesn’t have to! Ingredients like waxes and paraffin in curly hair products also lock the curls to keep moisture from the air AWAY and that way prevent frizz. Note: this is a GOOD thing; Hair science is not that complex once you understand the structure of the hair. Proteins like hydrolized keratin, oils and silicones found in products are just for conditioning purpose. ALL of them are made to layer your hair and make it softer and shiny, not just silicones! NONE of them “hold moisture”- that would be better damaging to your hair Also, porosity means nothing but how damaged is your hair
Why does my hair feel softer and smoother when I spray it with water then? I have type 3b-ish hair and when it has actual water in it it feels soft and smooth; and when it's partially dry, say sprayed with water, brushed and put it a braid, it's bouncy and soft. When it is fully dry, it feels rough and brittle :/ even after oil and conditioner. I find it to be such a hard balance.
Same I’ve recently changed my routine with drinking water more and it’s helped a bit and I’m trying out new products seeing which one is best for my hair.
I’m a real one....I agree with Shannel. I no longer use the term “moisturizing” anymore because it is a confusing term. I focus on regularly hydrating, conditioning and lubricating my hair. This way I’m focused solely on what the products will do for my hair. I do think you need to do more videos explaining the two concepts (hydration vs moisture) because some people still don’t understand the difference or may use them interchangeable when they can be two different things ( depending on how you use the words).
While I agree with you in theory regarding the “terms”. I also feel like this is all an exercise in futility. Just because a person may use a certain word to describe a phenomenon doesn’t change what the phenomenon is. If we in the natural hair world use the word hydration doesn’t change that we all generally understand what each other are referring to. It’s like saying that the color green isn’t really green we just call it that. Language in itself is simply an agreed upon set of ideas. We agree that the word water applies to the wet substance that comes out of the faucet when we turn it on. But the name is not what makes it water. Understand what I mean? 🤷🏽♀️
I could literally listen to you speak forever! Your voice is soft but still comanding.... your tone your affectations along with the way you describe Never change! "im a real one"
Thank you for reacting to this. I was wondering about the accuracy. When she says you can make your hair moisturized by jumping in a pool, I would describe that as “hydrated” or “wet”. I feel like “moisturized” can refer to oil infused. I use moisturizer on my face & it doesn’t mean I’m putting water on my face. Maybe I need a better definition of “moisturized”. I’m a real one
no but moisture literally refers to how much water is in a thing. in any non cosmetic matter of fact use of the word that is its meaning i mean maybe in the commercial beauty industry its describing the act of creating a barrier to hold water in your hair but still moisture means how much water is in a thing and wet means something saturated with water .so getting ur face wet is making it moist ...then you can choose to put some oil as a barrier to hold the water in i guess. doesnt matter what you prefer to use wet or moisture it means the same thing. oil can help retain or keep out moisture aka water depending on the order in which it was applied. it can be a humectant or an occlusive.
@@fabiofredregis So, if I get this right: water is bad for coarse hair (I hate touching my hair, no coloration, no heat but it's coarse). So the solution, if I wet my hair every morning, is to use a leave in conditioner (preferabley without silicone) and then some oil? Or no water, just a leave in conditioner?
"I'm a real one" with kinky coily 4C hair and a lot of what she said really confused what's worked and made my hair feel and look healthy. I have so many questions but the most urgent one right now that I would imagine Hair Hamlet would ask is "To hair dry or not to hair dry? That is the question."
Water makes your hair swell. And swollen hair is not healthy. However it isn’t likely to cause long term damage. However if you swell your hair with water, and you let it air dry for 10 hours (meaning your strands are raised and swollen for 10 hours) you hair will get damaged overtime. This can easily be avoided if you absorb the water with something like a t shirt tho.
yes leaving your hair wet for a long time is damaging, just wring some of the water out with a tshirt and air dry the rest, just don't go to bed with wet hair, better still user a hair dryer, that is what i do all the time. you and your hair are okay
@@TailsMPrower In skin care moisture isn't oil. Moisturisers are and their goal is moisturisation. (and it's a made up term) And they're meant to retain water underneath the skin barrier by trapping the water aka moisture. Some moisturisers use humectants and also draw moisture (or water) to the surface of the skin. Moisture is water. And btw dry skin usually needs hydration and moisturising. And moisturising is just keeping the content of water aka moisture at an all time high by trapping it making the skin look plump and full hence the term "moisturisation". Because it's really about water and water content no matter what is used to control the water content. And the goal of moisturisation is to retain the moisture in skin by trapping the water content. So what you said is misleading. Because moisture =/= oil.
@@TailsMPrower You can not compare skin and hair. That's where a lot of misconceptions come from. Skin is a living organ that funtions completely differently.
Interesting. It sounds like curly/coily girls have a better understanding of what it means to actually moisturize because we actually use...moisturizing ingredients lol.
And her opinions ( the original video) just don’t apply to our hair. Although hair itself is made up of the same substances no matter the texture and pattern. It is indisputable that there are VAST differences in the way different textures and patterns REACT to products and treatment. I’m not ignorant nor am I saying that the things may be true FOR HER HAIR. I’m saying that it just doesn’t apply to ALL HAIR.
I don't actually see the problem with the video, it had her thoughts and criticism of the video, and her explanation of somethings for her audience. I thought it was quite in depth on why she thought certain things, and was a good take on the original video with different opinions on somethings.
When referring to hair products, I’ve been actually trying to say conditioned instead of moisturized since for a while I thought the word was being misapplied. Wow truth has come to light. The most noticeable moisturizing process is when you wash your hair. To a large degree ppl in the natural hair community misuse the word, some even refer to oils or oil based products as moisturizing....“Real one”
Hi! I’d love to hear you talk about hair coloring! I would find it really interesting to know the difference between permanent and semi permanent hair color in a more thorough way. Would also love for you to do an ingredient read/review of the brad mondo hair color 😅
I'm a real one! And definitely want that video on moisturizing vs conditioning, what they are, what they do, and what ingredients to look for in products. Yes, please.
Hi Fops 🙋🏿♂️! Great video, I think you did well to acknowledge both the points you agree with and what you didn’t agree with. I also thought it was good of you to leave in your colleagues views which differ to yours. On the whole... Sterling effort!
I think Sarah's video is more about straight/wavy hair referenced from scientific studies which usually don't have texture hair much studied. Both these ladies spoke the truth just for different hair types.
Great video and so many points to touch base on, love seeing the natural hair community provide such helpful insight answers regarding the topic!! 1. My hair loves hot and humid climates it get really moisturized, but any product in my hair besides heavy gel and hair spray(might make it too hard) will be ate up .... I get tons of moisture. So summer and tropic climates work best for my hair. Since I've been in Korea though (esp new to the winter environment) the air pollution from China is so bad the fine dust has caused a lack of moisture and caused my curls to become extremely dry.......moisture just does not enter my hair . So in Korea (unlike Hawaii) my day 1 products like Shea Moisture Jamaican Black Castor leave in (lots of protein) and As i am leave in, no longer serve it ANY justice on its own and I think its because of the ingredients counteracting with the air quality . I have to use a gel AND a cream on top other wise my hair is not moisturized. And the hard water makes it dry as well. However the Shea Moisture Jam. Black Castor Oil leave-in during winter months can definitely make my hair even more dry and its filled with protein, so I believe that protein overload is a real thing , my hair doesn't like certain brands like Aphogee, as the protein causes it to become dry and brittle. Additionally I CANNOT have my hair too wet when styling otherwise it can snap and sometimes the products don't even stay in my hair or they do but make my hair feel dry when it does dry. 2. All these products, as I've recently been learning are simply of use for styling not mandatory for healthy hair (the heavy use of it for a certain loook) . I think we place too much emphasis on what moisture looks like vs what it means/feels like. Of course they aid us in moisture but overall I really don't think we need much. However we can always dive deep into anthropology and global climate/pollution in the conversation and how its affected our hair and our bodies throughout history but that's for another time. What I do take into consideration outside of science is what my hair feels like and listen to what it needs. In certain environments my hair looks good on day 1using heavy products, but can be extremely dry after day 2. For me, it sometimes feels better to just use a light leave in . Sure my hair might look puffy and frizzy to others, but it looks healthy and feels natural to me. Sometimes the tight curls achieved by the products is a cute look but just not a natural look without the use of heavy products. 3.Outside of capitalist influence , areas with villages and ancient tribes still active India, Egypt, Mongolia ,countries in Africa and South America, native American tribes, Hawaiians have always used natural resources with minimal added chemicals .....Oils, natural butters, gels , certain rinses, and rose/rice water and they've been doing it since the Egyptians and usually have the healthiest virgin hair. Maybe scientifically it hasn't been proven yet as she said but it certainly exists and more studies should be done. For all I'm concerned though all science can be proven and disproven. Being a curly girl we always to take hair type, environmental physical and hormonal effects in factor when thinking about moisture. okay now my comment is done :)
At the time she didnt know, Sarah has never mentioned that shes a trichologyst until now. And you can see Afope clearly reading from Sarah´s about tab, where she states that shes real life rapunzel. Never mentions her credentials or her eucation.
@@annagato @Anna Rodríguez She has mentioned it in her about, maybe Afope didn't see it. But the point also is that can she call herself a scientist when she is not a professional or something? She has a hair practioner's degree which they both have. So I thought it to be a bit off :)
@@Priyanka..111 no. It wasn't in her bio at the time Afope made this video. She literally read the bio on screen. Sarah also called herself Rapunzel, so what's wrong with Afope calling her that?
They don't actually have the same qualifications. Afope is a trichologist, Sarah is not. Sarah is a Hair practitioner. It's an at-home shorter certification. To be a trichologist you submit course work, undergo clinical training and several exams.
I’m a real one! I would love for you to do a moisturizing vs conditioning video. My question is, is her “science” looking at type 3/4 hair? I’m thinking that would make a difference.
please look up iamblackgirlcurls on instagram . they are two licensed cosmetologists with extensive experience with tightly coiled natural hair . they can answer your questions :) .
Yess, when we go outside in humid weather our hair tends to frizz and poof up correct? Well that’s bc the water moister is getting in our hair shaft so when we put oils in our hair aka condition and protect it since water can’t get into an already oil coated hair strand out hair stays down. Therefore most of the time “dry” hair has more moisture but it’s not conditioned. Edit: moisture* 2nd edit: our* My spelling sucks 😭😭
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You are so beautiful!! I'm a cosmetic formulator and what she's referring to when she says moisture from the air, formulators use humectants such as glycerin, honeyquat, 1,3 Propendial, etc. Now here is the tricky thing if a person lives in an harsh environment, the air can actually draw that water back out of the hair, which causes frizz! This is why film formers are so important to lock in the moisture from the air which we use humectants. This is why film formers like petrolatum, aka grease which ppl hate these days and a silicone called dimethicone are important to lock in that moisture from the air, to help reduce frizz. & Yes coconut oil penetrates into the scalp because it is an monounsaturated, but it is very comedogenic, which can work against the dermal papilla which is responsible for our hair receiving its nutrients and oxygen which helps with hair growth & water is not just used as a solvent but to moisturize as well, because emollients are used to make the hair soft which ppl confuse with moisturization.
I just LOOOOOVE this comment. Girl you better come through and educate us! Pinned instantly!
@@AfopeAtoyebi 💞💞💞🥰🥰🥰
@@KYESHAKNOWSSKIN girl, grease saved my tresses I kid you not. I was headed to baldville on a rocket and grease put the kibosh on that in a second🙌🏿
@@owamuhmza I believe the report grease is great for low porosity hair!! It locks in the nutrients of what we put on our hair, which cause those products to work effectively because their locked in! We've used it for ages, so I never understood why the BC acts brand new with grease!
@@KYESHAKNOWSSKIN I think it’s a case of being blown by every wind of hair care doctrine🤣🤣🤣 also, grease is cheap in comparison to these new fangled creams and butters so of course they would demonize grease to make a buck. I don’t like having a sore scalp or tumbleweed strands so I’m a grease stalwart for life even if it’s not bourgeois enough🤷♀️
Sure, hair is "dead," once it leaves your scalp, but do you want it to look REALLY DEAD, or just SLIGHTLY DEAD?
A fresh corpse vs one that's been sitting in the sun for a few weeks. 😂
I’ll go with the first one, I’m dead inside, I think it will suit my personality 🤣
@@SARAVANDEGIRL lmao love this comment
"Don't worry! He's only MOSTLY dead"
How about this analogy... Leather is also another dead animal product that is no longer connected to its living source. There's super soft, pliable buttery leather, and then there's super dry crispy brittle leather akin to a tortilla chip.
You should call Sarah and give her some updates and corrections since she's always down for talking to experts about her research.
I think she'd be down.
Great idea!
Apparently according to a post Sarah just made they have the exact same qualifications.
She has the same exact qualifications as Sarah
Shes taking her degree from the same education institution with you.
This is a great video, but we're talking about two different types of hair textures here. While some of her references may not be for African hair she does have truths to some of her claims. I wish we had more research on Afro hair. A lot of us are just doing trials and errors to grow our hair.
Yeah, Sarah herself has said in some of her videos that there is little scientific research for coily/curly hair. That's why a lot of her stuff mainly applies to a straighter type of hair. It does suck that there's not enough attention paid to other hair types.
I mean.... someone could do what she does and let the rest know cus... I'm tired with a fu&$*% hair. Lol
Yeah I don’t expect a white woman with straight hair to have the inner details of my Afro hair, that’s called a setup lol
And it's working.
I totally agree
Almost all the stuff she mentioned is based on the curly girl method. I really thought the protein-moisture balance thing was real. As a scientist I have to give her a shout out- finding, reading, understanding and then explaining peer reviewed articles is hard for a laymen! She did a great job
I think she’s currently pursuing a graduate degree so that’s why she knows how to find peer reviewed articles
She actually corrects herself in a later video.
She's not a layman
i love how the “curly girl method” is based on ppl with straight or wavy hair “figuring out” that they had curly hair (ie they learned how to *style* it)
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans I’d say it’s more like people with already existing wavy or curly hair patterns figuring out how to care for & style it so it actually LOOKS wavy or curly (& hopefully pretty as well.) The CGM wouldn’t do anything for straight hair bc you can’t change the pattern your hair grows in.
I really liked her video because she brought home the point that what someone feels as dry hair could literally just be their natural hair texture. I feel in the natural hair community, a big reason why people are obsessed with heavy butters and oils is because they override the cottony/bumpy texture that a lot of naturals have. Conditioning agents make our hair feel smooth and look shinier than it might naturally be, and we’ve come to associate those traits with being moisturized or healthy. We’re well into the natural hair movement yet we’re still being sold often unattainable hair goals in the form of shiny, perfectly spiralled curls. Of course, many of us can achieve that look by using method such as shingling but that can be so time consuming and is ultimately unnecessary. It’s good to know that my frizzy curls have just as, and potentially even more “moisture” then my perfectly styled curls.
Facts.
But I’m confused though because it’s more than just the way it looks and feels...when my hair is dry it breaks & doesn’t grow..
Commercials with those bouncy smooth shiny AF hair waves always made me hyper critical of my curly 3b hair.
Meh, I understand your point but drier hair usually tangles together easier. It is more than just a feeling if I could leave my hair dry I would lol.
I use heavy butters and oils because high porosity and trying to trap some moisture or even just product in my hair. In like a few days I have to reapply products because my hair has like nothing. Only thing that really helps is regular deep conditioning treatments.
The amount of education curly girls have regarding hair is really unfair.
we've had to figure it out ourselves.
@@Mariah203 thank you!
Yes! I have fine, straight hair and always feel like an idiot when I listen to curly haired women because I've been so uneducated about it all. I'm here for the learning experience. Give me all the science!
TRUTH
@@Mariah203 ALSO, I really recommend everyone check out the video she did on Instagram on shampooing. It's called "How did we spend hours talking about shampoo???" And was published Nov 21, 2020. It's like almost 3 hours worth of history on Black hair and REALLY dense in helpful and useful information.
I don’t think she was speaking to the coily audience though. So, this info may be more relevant to women with her hair type.
Or even the curly chics
She was. She makes a few small disclaimers in her video about the differences in the way you condition should absolutely be different depending on hair texture. I was a little wary of the video at first because it could have easily ended up using insensitive language (i.e. "curly"="coarse") from someone with straight hair like her. But she was really consistent about the way she talked about it which made me so happy.
Or damaged hair
@Ane Calvo Explain what you mean about basics? Not everyone's hair is the same! Different hair requires different care..that is the basics!
@@donnabent8317 To be honest, as a curly haired person, I didn't find her video very relevant to me. My hair needs moisture and moisture from the air or just water really isn't going to cut it.
9:26 “who said that?” Actually, it’s a very common thing to think. I used to think that for a long time.
Me too
me too
Same. Was a bit put off by that, frankly. I want to learn and I'm here for that, but not here to be put down for my lack of hair knowledge :/
Yup! I heard that from beauty youtubers.
I can totally understand why some people would think that. If proteins "fill in the gaps" and provide a barrier to help prevent moisture from escaping your hair, then it's reasonable to assume that barrier would also prevent moisture from getting in. A barrier is a barrier. We now know that assumption was wrong but the misconception is certainly understandable.
I'm a real one and I just subscribed SO FAST! My TH-cam suggestions did not let me down, you broke this down so amazingly as a true curly girl haha. Curly hair is different, it definitely needs CONDITIONING but porous hair that looses it's water content? Yeah, in my experience as a hairstylist, it could use some "moisture" and hydration, too. I'll be sharing this video to anyone that asks me to react, because honestly you just did that. Thank you x1000000
Yaaas Mel!!
I know I'm in the right place if Mel's here
I'm glad Mel commented cuz I was legit concerned that everything I learned was a lie!!
@@kita3256 she didn't put Sarah down, though. She just disagreed with certain points as it relates to curly and coily hair...
@@bookaholicSimi her tone was very condescending. I get that curly girls don’t like it when on curly girls talk about curly hair, but we must be open minded. Many people who have watched this video can agree with me. There’s no need for condescending behavior among women. Especially strong women.
Finally a hair scientist! I’ve been looking for you. literally. Awesome video, subscribed so fast! I find it so hard making videos on hair care, I try my best to be factual but there’s so much hearsay, researching it is difficult and the science can be confusing! I really appreciate the information you’re sharing, I hope to see more from you x
Your channel is amazing, you've taught me so much 😭
A A A A A AA A A A A A!!!!! I was so hoping you would find this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check out Curly Chemistry as well. 👍
How do you not have a checkmark?!
was literally just thinking if you knew this youtuber! ahhhhhh!
"I'm a real one" and totally confused right about now, LOL! Please do a video on the differences/comparisons between moisturizing and condtitioning. Really appreciate what you do. Blessings.
Hahaha thanks girl! I'll put that video in the pipelines for sure. But honestly you have no reason at all to be confused. I believe her main point was more to do with the semantics than anything else. Moisture is good, it benefits your hair, but as with everything, it's not the only important thing, and overdoing it can be problematic. As long as you're not keeping your hair perpetually wet, for the most part, I think you're fine.
@@AfopeAtoyebi Even hydration! As in hydration / moisturizing / conditioning - what's the difference?!?
Btw looove your videos ❤️
Yes, please do a video. I’m so glad Glam Fam recommended your channel. I’m high porosity too. I just love your channel and I subscribed.
You are ME!!! I had to rewind and pause to process all that info just to find out that maybe I don't understand English, LOL. I'm good with English, I just need a nap to recharge my brain. Ima watch it again, LOL
Yes. I agree
Honestly, I'm just tired at this point
Ikr what am i supposed to do with my hair
I just want my hair to stop breaking in the back of my head. I've tried everything except a silk pillow or bonnet to sleep in. I feel like I'll never have hair past my shoulders ever again.
@@rachelg9873 same. I used to have beautiful hair and did nothing special to it. In the past 2 1/2 yrs my hair has been at its worst state. Nothing but breakage and its just overall out of shape. I had to cut it shoulder length (so about 10 inches off), and it still looks its worst. The only thing i can think of would be my diet. I eat nothing but sugar and fast foods. Eating healthy is my last hope at this point
@@asc3007 fix that diet. game changer
@@draculena you seem to know so what type of diet should i work on? High protein? No dairy?
Sarah: "Too much protein blocks water from getting into your hair (supposedly)"
Afope: "If you think or have ever thought that protein stops your hair from absorbing moisture... that's not the case at all. If anything proteins by virtue of the fact they fill in the gap between cuticles actually helps your hair to retain moisture and actually slow the rate of moisture loss from your hair"
Me: I'm confused now because it seems like Afope is saying that protein creates a barrier to retain and prevent moisture loss, so wouldn't that also mean that the protein barrier would block water from getting into the hair? If a barrier stops things from leaving wouldn't it also stop things from entering? I know the cuticle is a two-way door but is protein only a one-way door?
Proteins are humectants e.g hydrolysed wheat protein. Creating a barrier doesn't directly mean blocking out water, it doesn't work that way.
Protein is good but not if you have too much.
I agree, they both said the exact same thing
@@hayesramirosa5998 okay so as a humectant the protein would be attracting water which is what Afope meant by it "helps your hair to retain and actually slow the rate of moisture loss." I think I understand better, thank you!
@@sierrasierra2595 as proteins are humectans - they draw water from the air into the hair, i guess too much proteins draw too much water, and that's why the hair feels brittle and "dry" ( i mean soaked up with too much water lol!). I don't know, this might be it and i totally agree that "ballance is key", too much of anything is never good.
People wondering if the video was even for curly haired people, I asked her about it in her comments (Sarah ingles), she was really sweet and answered all my questions. right after I did she started addressing curly people in the comments. She said that this info is actually incredibly helpful for curly hair and actually better information for curly hair, because our hair is chemically the same thing. But in her second video she does admit that curly hair specifically black hair has the little research. All that being said, considering it exactly why I don’t believe the advice really applies to at least African American hair, she’s also using one site of research as well as saying your hair doesn’t need water at all. She’s good at what she does but the book definitely wasn’t aimed at black or or even primarily or partially research on ethnic hair at all and thou it’s a small amount of time the book came out in 2012 I believe which means we are looking at research for a less African American hair/ curly hair friendly time such as early 2000 and maybe even the 90s. Curly hair isn’t an umbrella and is often used for looser curls or even just means - not black people hair. Information about terms was awesome but saying allllll hair is the same just because is chemically the same is absolutely false and the quickest way to get African American hair broken off. I even tried really primarily on humidity for my hair moisture I thought it worked at first but as time went on no matter how much conditioning I put on my hair and clarified or whatever she was her happiest after getting some water 🤷🏿♀️ it think that matter is that it's not adding up to say hair doesn't need water especially curly hair I think more research would be awesome instead of older research maybe both of these videos can strike up a conversation and do more research into black hair like new studies.
Damn, I’ve always thought air drying my hair was the hair-healthiest way to do it. I sense a rabbit hole looming on my horizon.
Samesies. Now what do we do? :')
I quickly stopped doing it because my hair looked and felt like sh*it everytime I did it except for the summertime or at the beach.
It's so funny because my hair grows so much faster air drying than using a blow dryer. The grow got stunted otherwise
Yes! What do we do now?!!! I've been air drying my natural hair for four years! Only tried a blow dryer once.
My hair looks trash when I blow dry it :(
Hi! Actually - as a young girl with curly hair my mother did teach me to add water to my hair to reduce the frizz. Like pat it down. Of course it didn't work for more than a second but her video actually did clarify why for me XD
I think that's what we originally thought, that adding water would help reduce the frizz! Glad we know better now. :')
I live in a desert and my hair actually looks best after I’ve had a steamy shower or misted my hair with water. I’m sure climate has a lot to do with it. When you live in a desert, your hair probably really does need more moisture.
You told me I don’t know anything about my own hair in about 7 different languages.
could you react to “no poo” methods and the theory behind that movement? ive seen them say that shampoo is overly drying/damaging, conditioner just sits on top and makes it feel healthy, and the whole thing is a vicious, unnatural cycle to make money. ive also seen them say as an alternative you should wash your hair with eggs, baking soda + apple cider vinegar, honey, aloe, water only + preening, tea, etc.
...or simply rinse with warm water, is what I do and it works fine. For me, who has the kind of straight hair that can absorbe a lot of oil.
@@lisastromsholm5171 I'm a bit late here, but I'd like to search for that video if she made one already.
I'm so glad I learned my lesson when I tried to wash my hair with baking soda as a teenager because "shampoo bad." NEVER AGAIN!!
My hair is dense and curly. I never spent so much time detangling in my life after I used baking soda to shampoo. It took several showers for me to completely rinse all the baking soda out. Apple cider vinegar helped, but seemed to make detangling worse.
It was so bad that I wish I had to power to prevent others from making that grave mistake.
Holy crap, I just googled the hair drying article you referenced and the conclusion is that using a hair dryer at a distance of 15cm causes less damage than air drying. That is insane! I've air dried for so long because I've been growing my hair and I could have (and should have) been blow-drying it!! I'm subscribing right now. Thanks for the education!
Do you happen to remember if it mentioned whether the temperature mattered, like whether it needs to be on one of the typical settings of cool, warm, or hot?
@@0faerieberry0 The hotter it was the more damage occurred on the outer layer of the hair. So use as low a heat as possible. There is another video by the same woman where she blow-dries her hair on a low heat with a heat protectant on her hair. Hope that helps :)
Crazy
Make sure you use a heat protector!
We’ve all tried a water based product to reduce frizz. Every time we’ve done it is because we didn’t believe that a thick product with the first ingredient as water would make our hair revert. 😆
so would you use butters to reduce frizz? cut I'm still figuring it out lol.
Huh? 🤨🤷🏽♀️ Ummm nah. Never thought that at all.
@@ray9209 I still believe that it really depends on individual hair. That’s why we hear people say all the time... a product does or doesn’t “work” for their hair. Not all hair responds to the same things. I would go even further to say that not all things have the same effect every time. Basically, I just believe that there are entirely too many variables out there ( condition of a person’s hair “healthy/damaged”, build up from previously used products, etc. and something I recently discovered ( much to my frustration) changes in physical health and female hormones and the effects they have on hair. My bottom line... as is widely said... not everything applies to everyone. Period.
@@leslielewis40 Right.
@@cfoster6804 I spray my hair with water to reset it when I’m not going to shampoo so if water isn’t good what do you use and my hair doesn’t seem to do well with oils makes my hair dry.
I will say I’ve seen the whole protein preventing moisture absorption misconception A LOT in the natural community especially with the DIY rice water craze, I think there’s a huge gap between the videos most people with natural hair encounter and the videos people with natural hair (who actually know about hair) encounter and watch all the way through
Does it not prevent it though? Bc the second I put some protein in my hair my hair gets dry and hard asf
@@kaamilahli2176 that’s just the protein buildup
There's the wet hair test for a reason. If your hair goes bad from rice water, your normal routine aleeady has enough protein. You need moisture.
@@leporid257 sorry could you please explain what the wet hair test is if you don’t mind
@@kaamilahli2176 Oh I put a good link in the message. I guess it didn't send.
It's called something like wet hair stretch test? You wet a few hairs, wait a bit to let the water soak in and stretch the hairs.
Healthy hair bounces back like a rubber band. Not enough protein makes it stretch far and not go back, while not enough moisture makes it break fast.
I’m a real one! I know that when I say my hair is moisturized, that the product has emulsified enough to provide ingredients to slow the rate of water releasing from the hair. Which is why I love my products to be applied on wet hair instead of dry or damp hair.
I never comment on videos, but I just wanted to say that I feel that this video was made with good intentions. As Sarah seems to pride herself on being TH-cam’s “Rapunzel”, I didn’t take those comments to be condescending.
If you do both have the same level of qualifications, then your review is no less valid. Peers can review each other’s work and offer constructive criticism! That can be very valuable! :)
I’m sure you don’t need me to “defend” you, but I really hope you don’t get any nasty comments
Omg. Me too! I rarely comment, esp to other commenters, but I had to a few times under this video because I didn’t see any ill-intent in this video. I watched it twice to make sure I wasn’t loosing it. I loved Sarah’s video on a scientific level and this one spoke to me on a more personal level. I appreciated both points of view and delivery. Both were such good informative content. How is it turning so messy. Smh.
@@kasisweetie2493
You should see the comments the other girl got after this video was posted.
She was called racist, jealous, underqualified because she wasn't a scientist, entitled and told to shut up because she didn't have curly hair..
Not that I'm justifying what is happening here, but I'm pretty sure it's comments like those that made her snap and now the snap back from her community is happening.
If you do not believe me go look at the video in this video and set your filter on "recent comments."
Her community post sprung up not too after the newer not so nice comments appeared. (I mean give and take a few days, it probably festered)
Though she was talked down on in this comment section by people as well.
Even saw her get defended by this channel's owner because someone went too far.
It's sad how it's mostly just hateful people in the comment sections that caused this for the most ridiculous reasons. Bringing people down for what?
There was no reason to slam down on Sarah like that.
@@ina7084 I hear you. Afope didn’t make any of those outrageous, ridiculous comments though. I don’t condone that crap. Sarah doesn’t deserve that. At the same time that doesn’t change the fact that this youtuber didn’t do those things. This video wasn’t degrading and the presenter wasn’t misleading. She wasn’t toxic. And she definitely isn’t the cause of the problem of women tearing each other down in this space. Those accusations toward this TH-camr by Sarah were way off target. Sarah’s post was a tantrum with misdirected feelings to the wrong person/people. This youtuber agreed with Sarah. She encouraged people to watch the entire video. She was nodding through out the viewing. I also read her checking a negative comment, giving “all due respect and props” to Sarah, saying that she did an “incredible job with the research” and that she “really enjoyed her video” and acknowledged the hard work she must have done. She didn’t tear her down. She can’t be responsible for other people’s idiocy. Reaction videos aren’t uncommon on TH-cam. Some are awful but in my opinion this was not. The whole situation makes me a bit sad for them both. I think that if this youtuber knew about what was being said in Sarah’s comments she would have came out and defended Sarah and shut those folks down. But after this attack...
@@kasisweetie2493 You basically said what I was thinking!! Sarah has had some horrible comments which were not deserved. I can understand why she’s upset. HOWEVER I just don’t feel that any of that hate should be redirected towards this video or Afope!
This video was not malicious or condescending. In fact they mostly agree with each other! And it’s probably useful to a lot of people to hear an opinion from somebody with a different hair type, whose hair needs will be different.
@@nats7762 Exactly! but Afope is already getting those weird microagressions of people calling her rude and aggressive when the video clearly isnt like that. I just wish that Sarah had been more thoughtful with her statement bc now her fans are in Afope´s comments being racist
I've usually found that when people do these "scientific studies" most times people of color are not whom their targeted study/research is comprised of so there outcome isn't normally for us. Thank you, a very interesting video. Always a real one here.
Yes Sarah also mentions that several times. She always tries to include other hair textures but she wants the things she says to be science based but coily hair or typical hair textures of pocs often aren't included in those studies.
Both Sarah and Afope went to the same school and got the same certificate. But in this case Afope has the "advantage" that she has personal experience with her hair type so she can give more advice on that than Sarah can.
@@ducklingscap897 they don't have the same certification. Afope is a trichologist with 3 years of experience, Sarah is a hair practitioner with a degree from 2020. They are not the same.
If youre referring to Sarah not specifically talking about curly and coily hair in her video or not focusing on it when she was researching...shes not a hair scientist or someone developing products. She has straight/slightly wavy hair so thats obviously going to be what she focuses on and talks about since its what she knows and is interested in.
@@EloquentlyEse I;m actually confused what you mean by this
@Snowchild did you @ me by mistake or what? I did not even address any of that. I corrected the commenter who said they had the same qualifications. They don't. Go back and read it again.
Quick google of “protein overload” shows every result on the first page say that too much protein blocks moisture... so you might not have heard it, but I’d say an awful lot of people believe it!
Never heard that one.
@@leslielewis40, literally every comment thread on r/curlyhair
i hear it all the time
I've heard it and literally had 2 videos recommended to me today on protein overload blocking moisture and nothing was able to penetrate the hair.
I’ve heard it about keratin treatments, which I get.
Water actually make my hair brittle and dry and it tends to fall out more/breaks if doesn’t have oil in it. I think problems is that hair science she found is actually geared more towards white women and their hair. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen them with super dry hair yet they’ll complain their hair is oily. It’s not so much the hair, but rather your scalp. Dry scalp = dry hair; oily scalp = oily hair. For those that are black, our hair is naturally a bit more on the drier side. I think the issue is that people think dry hair is the same has having damaged hair and it’s not. If your hair gets too dry, it can become damaged, and if your hair is to oily, it also becomes damaged cuz the oil can clogg pores and hair follicles. Reality is that it just comes down on your skin/scalp, and genetics. I personally don’t put moisturizers in my hair as I feel they make my hair much drier than what it is naturally. I use conditioners, and oils like tea tree oil, jojoba oil, coconut oils, and olive oils. Most of the products I use are oil based rather than water base cuz water does remove your hairs natural oils as well as shampoo. The oils help keep my scalp moist while also protecting my hair, all the while adding shine.
Thank you for this info! I personally actually get contact eczema from things like tea tree oil. But definetly gonna look at the coconut oil! Does it also work for wavy hair?
@@princessmanitari4993 yes! In fact coconut and olive oil are the only two oils that penetrate the hair as opposed to just sealing in moisture. So you’re getting all those good nutrients and antioxidants every time you apply them.
@@EA-rt3pi do you use just coconut oil, or as a proper product like from a hair brand? (Then i know what to get.)
@@princessmanitari4993 did you use tea tree essential oil? That may be why, also try cold pressed jojoba oil, it’s light weight and really locks in moisture. For me it gets rid of itchiness and flakes
@@princessmanitari4993 yes!!! My hair is curly and kinky and I use it. I use the oils by themselves; I have other hair products argot incorporate them like SheaMoisture.
I'm a real one.....for real 😀 that was the shortest 23 minutes and yes do that video on moisturized vs conditioned.
I really enjoyed your video. The title was misleading since you agreed with much of what Sarah said. But, with your different hair experiences, I would totally subscribe to a Dynamic Duo channel! Or even some videos together. Celebrate differences and point out similarities cos hair products kill my wallet and I need you both!💕
Weird when I watched the video, it seemed like she did say water damage is a thing. It seemed like she was criticizing them only giving a term to water when lots of things have the ability to do that.
i understood the same thing. she clarified herself on her second video.
I absolutely need a video differentiating between conditioner and moisturizer. I have no idea what I’m doing😂
Manes by mell has one on hymectants emollients and occlusives
I'm a real one. I moisturize AND condition my hair on the regular! Call it whatever you want. My hair has done a 180 since you dropped the knowledge re: film forming humectants! (THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!) I'm so glad that I found your channel.
the protein/moisturiser balancing thing does actually come up in a lot of curly hair videos I‘ve seen 👀
I agree! Too much protein on low porosity hair can block moisture and I've seen videos abt this where women's hair literally knotted up, locked and broke off.
I feel like it's similar to nail health, since hair is made of keratin just like nails, but just arranged differently, with an inner shaft full of pigment. With nails, you want a balance between hardness and strength. Too hard but not strong, you get brittle nails. Too moisturized or flexible, but not hard, you get bendy splitting nails. If you have both, you get hard nails that are also strong enough to take some impact without shattering, but not bending too much. This is why nails get really soft and fragile too when wet for too long. Keratin in nails can get waterlogged in a way, unless you have them moisturized with oil to protect them longer. This is why I have better nails when I wear gloves to wash dishes and moisturize hands after washing hands a lot (especially during the covid pandemic changes and everyone providing now alcohol hand sanitizer). This is why biotin supplements didn't do much for my nails but calcium+vit d. Supplements Made them noticeably longer because I want lacking protein, but I was leaving calcium so my nails were often soft, but they got harder, once I got enough calcium. Afaik, oils protect hair from water frizzing and protein is for the insides, the inner keratin shaft. Your diet and overall health and growth hormones, (or possibly protein treatments) are for the inner part of the hair, and oils are for keeping the outer part smooth.
Yup... I don't know hair science but I know that doing protein treatment in-between hydration and nutrition saved my hair big time. It was extremely damaged and porous, dead curls. Now I have curls again lol
And on every instagram curly hair account..
The protein-moisture balance is like a sacred chant that's constantly being repeated and emphasised.
@@melinadistrict9428 exactly
Yes, please do make a video about moisturizing VS conditioning - that would be super helpful. And thank you for all the valuable content you are producing, it is much appreciated.
I was searching for this comment. Would love such video too ❤️
She did not say hygral fatigue did not exist or that protein overload didnt exist. She was just explaining it so the marketing did not confuse us. She did great.
I, for one, did hear about protein/moisture overload and did imagine like my hair is like a sponge, picking up moisture from a product while becoming smoother. Obviously, I no longer believe those things. I *think* you and Sarah's difference of perspective might come from the fact that she does not think that much in curly/coily hair terms, even though she makes a conscious effort to include every hair type in her content. Until you said so, I (with my wavy hair) could not imagine why someone would want to moisturize their hair in the sense that they want it to be bigger, less smooth and more textured. It makes more sense now.
ps. I am a real one.
Mhm I was thinking that too
"I'm a real one" yes, please let us know about moisture vs conditioned. Wonderful video!
I can’t tell you how many hairdressers have told me my hair is dry. I knew this was bs a long time ago. I have very curly hair and if it’s humid my hair will always seem dry and frizzy, despite lots of conditioning and care.
Yes! We need a video on the moisturizer vs conditioner ingredients! This was fascinating
I literally watched Sarah's video right before I seen this video and I'm so glad you made it. You explained everything so well. It was easier to understand way less confusing. Btw your so beautiful!! For sure going to be watching more of your videos
Her: you know when you spritz your hair to reduce frizz?
The entire state of Florida: ...we... we are living proof that that's not how life works.
Right. The way Louisiana is laughing disrespectfully
Maybe it depends on hair type. I spray my hair with water to get rid frizz before I do something like braid it, but yeah, once the water dries off of it if I didn't braid it or anything, yeah it's going to be frizzy all over again...
Wear your hear out they said it'll be fine they said 🙄 and it rained that day and i forgot a rubber band
*a black girl living in Florida*
Lol I came on to say the same 😆
I live in Miami and I use a hair serum that has DIMETHICONE in it literally transforms my color treated hair I think it has something to do with blocking the excess moisture
I’m naturally 4C and my hair looks better when it has been “plumped “ from humidity in the air, spritzing or after washing.. otherwise it becomes “flat” from stretching
I’m a real one... new to your channel...wonderful video.. great content
My hair does way better in the humidity and without it I’m not as full and curly my curls sit a lot nicer when it’s humid
I'm a real one.... I'm also a man that's interested in getting a better understanding of hair care in general. I'm also a licensed barber. I see different types of hair at many different lengths on a daily basis. This video enlightened but also confused me. Please make another follow up video to this! I want to be able the guide but not necessarily teach my customers and clients to a better understanding of protecting their hair. Not just their hair but mine as well.
I like this reaction a lot because Sarah has a degree (or more?) in marketing, so her POV is from a marketing perspective and she is making distinctions, but you have an actual background in hair science and you go more into detail on what she is talking about and the limits of the research and what we do and don't know.
Im so sorry that those women are taking this video and twisting your words, calling you aggressive, rude and what not. Yt ppl love discrediting and putting poc ”on their place”. its so sick
@@ravenwilson7979 She clearly agrees with most of Sarah’s points, only calls her elsa/rapunzel bc Sarah presented herself as “real life rapunzel”. So why are so many people calling her rude and aggressive when she’s only presenting a different point of view? That’s a microaggression.
If you look up Afope’s credentials you would see that she’s more experienced than Sarah. (which you can easily find with a quick linkedin search or a look at her website, or her about tab)
You can see in the video that Afope looks for Sarah’s credentials, but in her about tab she doesn’t mention anything about being a trichologyst. How would Afope know about her title when she hadn’t mentioned it anywhere? So she treats her as a curious person with an interest in haircare, which is how Sarah presents herself in the video.
@@ravenwilson7979 In no way Afope mislead anyone, prior to Sarah’s post no one knew that she was a trichologist. Also, the title says “Hair Scientists” and if you check the description she mentions that her friend is a trichologist and a biomedical scientist.
But that’s besides the point, Afope never discredited Sarah, she made funny lighthearted comments about how different curly hair is compared to straight hair. The only sarcasm she uses is when she explain that no one would moisturize their hair after getting a silk press. At the end she clearly agrees with Sarah and recommends her audience to check her channel.
I don’t see why she deserves to be called a mean girl or be “put in her place” over that.
I'm the dummy that was using moisturizers to de-frizz my hair 🙌
Same. I was told by stylist after stylists that with curly hair , frizz is just dehydrated curls so if my hair is frizzy in it’s naturally curly state it’s BC it’s not moisturized enough
Same lol 😂😂😂
Same!!
Fr tho.. I learned to not comb my curls to reduce frizz only after 17
A lot of black women think protein blocks out water just like they think silicones and petroleum prevents moisture from getting into hair. Which is not true since even after using grease hair can still get wet but, oh well. I stopped listening to the bulk of natural hair rules, they just don’t make any sense.
Water repels from oil, grease and wax. Hair can be wet but will not enter the hair shaft cause water will repel. This is a fact. Everything needs to be deep cleansed and clarified to let water peneterate hair shaft again.
@@suneasha2191 Nope. Your comment is a contradiction. For one, for hair to be wet it needs to absorb enough water. So if your hair is wet clearly there is water that got inside and didn’t get repelled by any product.
Two, oils/wax/silicones repel water yes. But unless you put a whole jar of any of these products in your hair, that dime size of oil or hair grease will never fully coat each and every strand on your head perfectly to “seal” the way you think it does. Not only that over the course of the day those oils get absorbed into your hair and rub of on clothes, pillows etc.
You know that gorilla glue girl? That’s a perfect example of perfectly sealed hair. Oils, silicones, grease etc can’t do that, doesnt matter how much they repel water.
@@toodles6734 still have to wash them off
I love love love your channel! I subscribed after i watched one video 2 days ago. You are my kind of girl: short videos, to the point and most important sciencebased information! Please keep doing this kind of videos. Really appreciate what you do for us curly girls! Greetings from Belgium 😍
Hey girl heyyy! Aww thank you so much for this! 🥰🙏🏽 Means a lot
Water can help get rid of frizz. Like you said, it helps reform the hydrogen bonds and re set it in place. That’s why when certain people refresh their curls they spray them with water and add product.
My friend kept putting straight aloe vera into my hair because it was "dry" and needed "moisture" but no matter how many times she did it, my hair felt "dry" and brittle. She ended up declaring that my hair was just too damaged to save and I agreed to let her cut it off.
Clearly, thinking rough/brittle=needs moisture/moisturizer is a problem at least for some of us cause I super doubt my hair was just so dry it would drink the whole world's supply of aloe and still be thirsty... Only thing that thirsty is me for Chris Evans.
I love your smugness on your knowledge about hair ☺. As a white woman with a light wave and had no guidance for hair care beyond media and marketing(my mums only guidance was to brush my hair 100times a night...) I now look towards the only people who seem to know anything about hair which seems 9/10 to be the black community. I'm thrilled I've found this channel, I feel like I'm going to learn so much. Oh and I'm a real one.
Yaaay! So glad you've decided to stick around - I'm constantly learning, and the more I learn, the more I realise how much I actually don't know 😂But I shall continue to share what I'm learning/have learnt. 💛
@@AfopeAtoyebi the pursuit of knowledge is exciting too. You are passionate and entertaining, I'm so excited to learn, I spent a good hour reading all my shampoo, conditioner and masks with a smidge more of an idea of what I'm looking for. My hair will love me as much as I love it.
Oh God, I thought you were gonna say something else!😄😊
@@Kiki-7
Me too- I'm checking out all my products! Like you said- all my my Mom EVER told me about hair care was to brush it!(100x's) I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough to remember when "Cream Rinse" was a thing! Now we call it conditioner!! I love learning all this.
Here's to better cared for hair! We have a lot to learn! I'm 30 my mum is in her 70s she went to a convent boarding school and the nuns were ...oldschool.
I’m a real one 🙌🏻 That was very insightful, thank you. I think further explanation of moisture vs conditioning (vs hydrating?) could be really useful, thanks 🤩
Wondered the same thing literally minutes ago 🤣
I second that... we need to better understand those three... for me it’s hydrated vs moisturized??
I think moisture and hydrating are the same thing. There's only one type of moisture, and that's water.
Meanwhile, conditioning helps retain the moisture.
“I’m a real one”. Thank you for this video, I also watched Sarah Ingle’s video and found it very insightful. I am happy that you were able to confirm many of the things she said and help clarify others. I would also like for you to do a video on the differences and comparisons between moisturizing and conditioning hair.
Thanks girl! I enjoyed watching (and reacting to) her video too. A lot of people have also mentioned the video on moisturising vs. conditioning so I've popped that in my content calendar pipeline 😊
This was about to make me nuts. I’ve been an educator and cosmetologist for over 20 years...you my dear are awesome and addressed this young lady’s video perfectly.
That “water to smooth down frizz” was ABSOLUTELY a thing for me when I was younger with a relaxer but the moment I went curly the only time I use water to tame frizz is when I’m styling my hair.
Never knew that setting with wet hair was bad!! I used to braid my straight hair and it would stay wet for hours and literally would be still wet in spots in the morning. oops
this is why they say deep conditioning overnight is a myth and not good for hair
Sarah has a whole video about ph values in products. She seems to really want to make sure she’s covering her bases, especially since she isn’t a scientist.
Bases.. lol, nice one.
They went to the same school and got the same certificate. Neither of them are scientist
@@aisyyday4christ933 Exactly lol
Watches Sarah's video. "Huh, I didn't know that." Watches Afope's video. "Huh, I didn't know that."
Yesterday, youtube recommended me Sarah Ingle, today it recommended YOU. What can I say? I'm loving all this new knowlodge. Thank U! And for me, with my straight hair, dry hair looks the best.
I'm a real one!
This is the first video of yours I have watched and I immediately subscribed! I am SO HERE for this content! (And trying so hard to make my curls grow past my shoulders without breakage)
I'd love to see a video comparing the differences between moisturizing and conditioning products!! It's so confusing
moisturizing = adding water
conditioning = making shiny
"I'm a Real One"
Ayeeee let’s go!! I see you girl! Thank you so much ☺️🙏🏽
Same, and this si the first video i have seen from her. I loved it, thank you so much! I’m subscribing right now!!!!
"AIN'T NOBODY" I'm laughing SO HARD. I didn't wrap my freshly straighten 3c hair with a scarf on my way to school during rainy days for nothing HAHAHAHAHAHAH
It's really sad that the negative comments of a few brought the intent of this video into question.
Trichology is the scientific study of hair and scalp. Afope and Sarah both had to get professionally certified to become Trichologists.
If you would like to know Afope's qualifications, they're right on her Linkedin profile. (In case you don't feel like looking, she has a master's degree in science and has been a Trichologist for nearly 4 years. Technically, she has more professional experience than Sarah who got her Trichology certification in November 2020.)
As for Afope referring to Sarah as Rapunzel and Elsa, Sarah refers to herself as Rapunzel. Sarah also has a video on her channel of her reenacting a scene from Frozen 2 dressed as Elsa, which I believe Afope was referencing. (Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/BjyEF4_ooD4/w-d-xo.html ) If Sarah doesn't want to be referred to as a princess, she may want to stop calling herself Rapunzel.
Many times in this video, Afope agreed with Sarah. There were some things she disagreed with, but that doesn't equate to her being mean.
I enjoyed both videos and felt like they helped me understand my hair better. I hope they can resolve this quickly and peacefully. They are both knowledgeable about hair and I would love to see them have a live chat about hair science.
Also they don't even have the same qualification. Afope is a trichologist, Sarah is not. Sarah is a Hair practitioner. It's an at-home shorter certification. To be a trichologist you submit course work, undergo clinical training and several exams.
It's interesting. Much of this is indeed semantics I think. I thought to leave a comment on her video, though decided against it as I don't think those with afro textured hair are exactly her target audience and our hair plays by a slightly different set of rules. I will say that I do tend to go for lighter weight conditioners that are marketed for smoothing or volumizing as oppose to "moisturizing" as those formulations tend to flatten/lower the cuticle better for me, which is key. I'll use the heavier stuff to style.
In addition to conditioners, most afro textured hair in its natural state requires humectants (aka moisturizers), oils/lubricants and sealants in order to not feel hard and brittle to the touch. Even at its healthiest, my natural hair will not retain any hydration without some help.
Also, the discussion regarding moisture protein balance is just language...build up vs overload, meh. People are describing very real phenomena they experience with their hair, regardless of whether or not they get the technical description or language precisely correct.
I laughed my ass off by the;’ who said that?!’ 😂😂💀.
Loved the informative video by the way, you explained everything so clearly 🤗.
It sounds ridiculuos, but many people think that protein may stop your air from moisturizing.
Wait- I’m confused? So air drying your hair is damaging and blow drying is not?:0
Wait I missed that part. What??
@@rachelg9873 basically don't sleep with wet hair and if your hair takes hours to dry naturally, you might wanna consider speeding things along with a hairdryer (cool setting unless you use a heat protector)
@@icarusgotooclose My hair takes hours to dry. It always has. But I have a lot of hair. It's fine but I have loads of it. I have long, healthy hair, no split ends.
Indirect heat, such as a diffuser, is healthier for your hair than letting it air dry
@@pu5hida Oh okay, I haven’t blow dried my hair in years, I was worried if that was damaging it, I never sleep with wet hair so I should be good? My hair does take some hours to fully dry tho...is that damaging it?
GIRL WE NEED A FRIZZY HAIR VIDEO ‼️‼️
Yaaaas! I literally going through the comments desperately finding anyone saying how to deal with frizz. Cause I am the dummy that thought water will fix the frizz 😂🤦 even though it never did work IRL. I don't know why I never thought of questioning that mindset lol.
This is soo not fair all of you are praising her for judging 200 hours of Sarah's research, she could give some comments but not in that way. Sarah is feeling soo down this is not okey other woman should help each other not tear each other down not to mention that youtube started taking down her video and promoting this woman. You literally profited off Sarah's research and hard time and after all the proof she has given you still dont like it??? I think you should apologize, you don't know how Sarah feels rn.
She didn't bring her down in any way. She was extremely respectful. When you post a controversial video, you speak in arrogant way and you bring entire natural hair community down you have to deal with the consequences. This is what happened to Sara. Action means reaction.
Afope was extremely polite and she explained everything so well.
@@alexandra3857
This woman also claims she is a scientist when both her and Sarah have a certification from the same place and very similar qualifications.
Whether it was intentional or not, this seriously undermines Sarah's qualifications and overblows the womans's in the video.
Edit: On further inspection, a trichologist is considered a scientist in the UK, but not in the US.
Therefore this may just be a cultural mix up.
Critiquing and disagreeing is now an offense that requires an apology, really. Sarah should be proud of her research not ‘feeling down.’ I loved Sarah’s video. Reaction videos are common on this platform some are awful but this was far from that. She did like Sarah’s video and actually encouraged her viewers to go watch the entire video. She agreed with most of what Sarah said, nodding throughout and explained the points that she disagreed with. Just because she presented the info from her point of view, as it pertains to her texture and her audience doesn’t mean she didn’t like the info. Get a grip. I didn’t interpret anyone tearing anyone down. If you think this is the worst thing that could happen on a public platform such as TH-cam then you are out of touch with reality.
@@ina7084 it is not about having a certification or not, it is about facts. Sarah brought entire natural hair community down with her "facts" which are actually not true. As a hair blogger myself I found her video misleading. Dry hair, hygral fatigue and protein moisture balance are real. All she needed to do is Google scholar search where there is lots of scientific based articles by actual dermatologist and board certified trichologyst which are proving what I just said.
Afope had every right to express her opinion and react to video, it is very popular nowadays and I don't think she should get so defensive, especially because no one was being disrespectful towards her.
I think people should start taking responsibility for their actions, once you do something controversial, you should know that not all the people are going to be happy about it.
@@alexandra3857
You are saying how Sarah is too sensitive while you also perceive her video as an attack on a whole community.
Maybe you should check yourself as well and take some responisbility for your own feelings.
She got many demeaning comments about herself in this comment section where even Afope had to defend her and a couple of nasty ones in her own after this video was posted.
So I am not surprised that she reacted the way she did in the end.
She consulted with hair experts before posting the content of the book and then she consulted with them afterwards and they had a consensus when it came to what she put out.
Afope actually didn't really say anything too disagreeing until it came to the moisture part, but her friend's call was the most important part of this whole video because she is the actual expert and even she said that hair is the healthiest when it is hydrophobic aka she agreed with Sarah.
When it comes to facts studies can point to a direction, but it is the consensus of the experts that agrees on what the facts are.
Not the random studies.
Yes, please do the moisturized vs conditioned video!
Heeey Afope!! Thank you for reacting to this.
I watched Sarah's video before because like you said that title was very interesting I had to click lol.
Anyways, as confusing as it was to watch I get her overall objective from making the video, but it doesn't matter because ever since you schooled me on how to care for my unique hair needs and with me seeing consistent results I was like "thank you TH-cam!! this is all the hair science I need and I don't need to take in anymore information" lol.
Forever Grateful to you and Narada my favorite hair tubers ❤️
omg! Yes! "I',m a real one."
This was SO interesting! And I'm also a bit confused now. Please yes video about conditioning vs moisturizing products. I'd love to learn more about that! I am so happy to have discovered this Channel.
I didn't realize air drying my hair was actually hurting my hair. i just discovered your channel, I look forward to learning all we can from you.
It's only damaging if your hair take hours to dry or if you live in a very humid climate with unprotected high porosity hair. Otherwise most people are fine
Sarah is right. The reason why our curly hair “loves water” is because it helps us comb it, style it- as hydrogen bonds are broken our curl pattern comes back, then we apply the products and wait for it to dry, products don’t trap moisture (water), they don’t have the ability or purpose to do that, they only try to keep the curls in place and define them so that water doesn’t have to! Ingredients like waxes and paraffin in curly hair products also lock the curls to keep moisture from the air AWAY and that way prevent frizz. Note: this is a GOOD thing; Hair science is not that complex once you understand the structure of the hair.
Proteins like hydrolized keratin, oils and silicones found in products are just for conditioning purpose. ALL of them are made to layer your hair and make it softer and shiny, not just silicones! NONE of them “hold moisture”- that would be better damaging to your hair
Also, porosity means nothing but how damaged is your hair
Why does my hair feel softer and smoother when I spray it with water then? I have type 3b-ish hair and when it has actual water in it it feels soft and smooth; and when it's partially dry, say sprayed with water, brushed and put it a braid, it's bouncy and soft. When it is fully dry, it feels rough and brittle :/ even after oil and conditioner. I find it to be such a hard balance.
So relatable!!!
Same I’ve recently changed my routine with drinking water more and it’s helped a bit and I’m trying out new products seeing which one is best for my hair.
I’m a real one....I agree with Shannel. I no longer use the term “moisturizing” anymore because it is a confusing term. I focus on regularly hydrating, conditioning and lubricating my hair. This way I’m focused solely on what the products will do for my hair. I do think you need to do more videos explaining the two concepts (hydration vs moisture) because some people still don’t understand the difference or may use them interchangeable when they can be two different things ( depending on how you use the words).
While I agree with you in theory regarding the “terms”. I also feel like this is all an exercise in futility. Just because a person may use a certain word to describe a phenomenon doesn’t change what the phenomenon is. If we in the natural hair world use the word hydration doesn’t change that we all generally understand what each other are referring to. It’s like saying that the color green isn’t really green we just call it that. Language in itself is simply an agreed upon set of ideas. We agree that the word water applies to the wet substance that comes out of the faucet when we turn it on. But the name is not what makes it water. Understand what I mean? 🤷🏽♀️
I’d love to see a moisturizing versus conditioning video!! I think it would help clarify things a bit more.
I could literally listen to you speak forever! Your voice is soft but still comanding.... your tone your affectations along with the way you describe
Never change!
"im a real one"
I'm a straight haired girl and was taught air drying was best but now I am questioning everything I've learned about hair this last 40 years!
YES U HAVE TO ALWAYS QUESTION THINGS, DON'T JUST GO WITH IT 😊
Real one 💕. I love hearing from a scientific perspective. Sometimes those fields can be so confusing and difficult to parse as a layperson😬
“Who said that” escorted me to my casket...💀💀 I’m a real one
I fell of my chair laughing. That was too much :'D
I'm a real one. And this was the FIRST video I have ever watched from you! 😁👍🏾
Ah, thank you! I appreciate that :)
Thank you for reacting to this. I was wondering about the accuracy. When she says you can make your hair moisturized by jumping in a pool, I would describe that as “hydrated” or “wet”. I feel like “moisturized” can refer to oil infused. I use moisturizer on my face & it doesn’t mean I’m putting water on my face. Maybe I need a better definition of “moisturized”. I’m a real one
no but moisture literally refers to how much water is in a thing. in any non cosmetic matter of fact use of the word that is its meaning i mean maybe in the commercial beauty industry its describing the act of creating a barrier to hold water in your hair but still moisture means how much water is in a thing and wet means something saturated with water .so getting ur face wet is making it moist ...then you can choose to put some oil as a barrier to hold the water in i guess. doesnt matter what you prefer to use wet or moisture it means the same thing. oil can help retain or keep out moisture aka water depending on the order in which it was applied. it can be a humectant or an occlusive.
Oil isn't moisture it's conditioning... Anything moist contains water.
@@fabiofredregis So, if I get this right: water is bad for coarse hair (I hate touching my hair, no coloration, no heat but it's coarse). So the solution, if I wet my hair every morning, is to use a leave in conditioner (preferabley without silicone) and then some oil? Or no water, just a leave in conditioner?
Yes, please do a video on Moisturizing products VS Hydrating ones. This video was very informative. We need more !
"I'm a real one" with kinky coily 4C hair and a lot of what she said really confused what's worked and made my hair feel and look healthy. I have so many questions but the most urgent one right now that I would imagine Hair Hamlet would ask is "To hair dry or not to hair dry? That is the question."
Water makes your hair swell. And swollen hair is not healthy. However it isn’t likely to cause long term damage. However if you swell your hair with water, and you let it air dry for 10 hours (meaning your strands are raised and swollen for 10 hours) you hair will get damaged overtime. This can easily be avoided if you absorb the water with something like a t shirt tho.
yes leaving your hair wet for a long time is damaging, just wring some of the water out with a tshirt and air dry the rest, just don't go to bed with wet hair, better still user a hair dryer, that is what i do all the time. you and your hair are okay
@@eo4345 Can I ask, why a t-shirt? Is it less damaging than towel drying somehow?
@@Trynedge yes
@stella martinez always best to use some form of heat protectant before blow drying👍
*and the crowd goes wild* 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m a real one! Lol thank you so much for this video!!!! So so so helpful!
Oh, hi Courtney! How are things in Texas with the whole cold snap situation?
In beauty, moisture refers to oil. Hydration refers to water. Dry skin lacks oil. So dry hair lacks...
The original video was a strawman argument.
@@TailsMPrower
In skin care moisture isn't oil.
Moisturisers are and their goal is moisturisation. (and it's a made up term)
And they're meant to retain water underneath the skin barrier by trapping the water aka moisture.
Some moisturisers use humectants and also draw moisture (or water) to the surface of the skin.
Moisture is water.
And btw dry skin usually needs hydration and moisturising.
And moisturising is just keeping the content of water aka moisture at an all time high by trapping it making the skin look plump and full hence the term "moisturisation".
Because it's really about water and water content no matter what is used to control the water content.
And the goal of moisturisation is to retain the moisture in skin by trapping the water content.
So what you said is misleading.
Because moisture =/= oil.
There is no need to put Sarah down though...
@@TailsMPrower You can not compare skin and hair. That's where a lot of misconceptions come from. Skin is a living organ that funtions completely differently.
Interesting. It sounds like curly/coily girls have a better understanding of what it means to actually moisturize because we actually use...moisturizing ingredients lol.
And her opinions ( the original video) just don’t apply to our hair. Although hair itself is made up of the same substances no matter the texture and pattern. It is indisputable that there are VAST differences in the way different textures and patterns REACT to products and treatment. I’m not ignorant nor am I saying that the things may be true FOR HER HAIR. I’m saying that it just doesn’t apply to ALL HAIR.
A video about moisturizing vs conditioning would be awesome 🥺❤️👑
I don't actually see the problem with the video, it had her thoughts and criticism of the video, and her explanation of somethings for her audience. I thought it was quite in depth on why she thought certain things, and was a good take on the original video with different opinions on somethings.
I rather have my hair looking moisturized (w/conditioner as long as it is water based). Also, I like the manageability.
When referring to hair products, I’ve been actually trying to say conditioned instead of moisturized since for a while I thought the word was being misapplied. Wow truth has come to light. The most noticeable moisturizing process is when you wash your hair. To a large degree ppl in the natural hair community misuse the word, some even refer to oils or oil based products as moisturizing....“Real one”
Hi! I’d love to hear you talk about hair coloring! I would find it really interesting to know the difference between permanent and semi permanent hair color in a more thorough way. Would also love for you to do an ingredient read/review of the brad mondo hair color 😅
I'm a real one! And definitely want that video on moisturizing vs conditioning, what they are, what they do, and what ingredients to look for in products. Yes, please.
LOVE your personality and humor. It makes your videos so entertaining whilst we receive top tier information .
Hi Fops 🙋🏿♂️! Great video, I think you did well to acknowledge both the points you agree with and what you didn’t agree with. I also thought it was good of you to leave in your colleagues views which differ to yours. On the whole... Sterling effort!
My hair is like 1A and i dont know what my hydrogen nothing is doing. Flat while dry flat while wet, the only difference is the weight 😭
I think Sarah's video is more about straight/wavy hair referenced from scientific studies which usually don't have texture hair much studied. Both these ladies spoke the truth just for different hair types.
Great video and so many points to touch base on, love seeing the natural hair community provide such helpful insight answers regarding the topic!!
1. My hair loves hot and humid climates it get really moisturized, but any product in my hair besides heavy gel and hair spray(might make it too hard) will be ate up .... I get tons of moisture. So summer and tropic climates work best for my hair. Since I've been in Korea though (esp new to the winter environment) the air pollution from China is so bad the fine dust has caused a lack of moisture and caused my curls to become extremely dry.......moisture just does not enter my hair .
So in Korea (unlike Hawaii) my day 1 products like Shea Moisture Jamaican Black Castor leave in (lots of protein) and As i am leave in, no longer serve it ANY justice on its own and I think its because of the ingredients counteracting with the air quality . I have to use a gel AND a cream on top other wise my hair is not moisturized. And the hard water makes it dry as well.
However the Shea Moisture Jam. Black Castor Oil leave-in during winter months can definitely make my hair even more dry and its filled with protein, so I believe that protein overload is a real thing , my hair doesn't like certain brands like Aphogee, as the protein causes it to become dry and brittle. Additionally I CANNOT have my hair too wet when styling otherwise it can snap and sometimes the products don't even stay in my hair or they do but make my hair feel dry when it does dry.
2. All these products, as I've recently been learning are simply of use for styling not mandatory for healthy hair (the heavy use of it for a certain loook) . I think we place too much emphasis on what moisture looks like vs what it means/feels like. Of course they aid us in moisture but overall I really don't think we need much.
However we can always dive deep into anthropology and global climate/pollution in the conversation and how its affected our hair and our bodies throughout history but that's for another time. What I do take into consideration outside of science is what my hair feels like and listen to what it needs.
In certain environments my hair looks good on day 1using heavy products, but can be extremely dry after day 2. For me, it sometimes feels better to just use a light leave in . Sure my hair might look puffy and frizzy to others, but it looks healthy and feels natural to me. Sometimes the tight curls achieved by the products is a cute look but just not a natural look without the use of heavy products.
3.Outside of capitalist influence , areas with villages and ancient tribes still active India, Egypt, Mongolia ,countries in Africa and South America, native American tribes, Hawaiians have always used natural resources with minimal added chemicals .....Oils, natural butters, gels , certain rinses, and rose/rice water and they've been doing it since the Egyptians and usually have the healthiest virgin hair.
Maybe scientifically it hasn't been proven yet as she said but it certainly exists and more studies should be done. For all I'm concerned though all science can be proven and disproven. Being a curly girl we always to take hair type, environmental physical and hormonal effects in factor when thinking about moisture.
okay now my comment is done :)
She has the same educational qualification as Sarah, she should have mentioned that.
At the time she didnt know, Sarah has never mentioned that shes a trichologyst until now. And you can see Afope clearly reading from Sarah´s about tab, where she states that shes real life rapunzel. Never mentions her credentials or her eucation.
@@annagato @Anna Rodríguez She has mentioned it in her about, maybe Afope didn't see it. But the point also is that can she call herself a scientist when she is not a professional or something? She has a hair practioner's degree which they both have. So I thought it to be a bit off :)
@@Priyanka..111 no. It wasn't in her bio at the time Afope made this video. She literally read the bio on screen. Sarah also called herself Rapunzel, so what's wrong with Afope calling her that?
They don't actually have the same qualifications. Afope is a trichologist, Sarah is not. Sarah is a Hair practitioner. It's an at-home shorter certification. To be a trichologist you submit course work, undergo clinical training and several exams.
I’m a real one! I would love for you to do a moisturizing vs conditioning video. My question is, is her “science” looking at type 3/4 hair? I’m thinking that would make a difference.
please look up iamblackgirlcurls on instagram . they are two licensed cosmetologists with extensive experience with tightly coiled natural hair . they can answer your questions :) .
Yes the book she sources from looks at natural Afro textured hair as well as relaxed
@@taereecutie97 love them...my hair did a 180 after I stopped listening to influencers
Yes
Yess, when we go outside in humid weather our hair tends to frizz and poof up correct? Well that’s bc the water moister is getting in our hair shaft so when we put oils in our hair aka condition and protect it since water can’t get into an already oil coated hair strand out hair stays down. Therefore most of the time “dry” hair has more moisture but it’s not conditioned.
Edit: moisture*
2nd edit: our*
My spelling sucks 😭😭