Richard has gone mad with power now that they're in paper. He's really committing to his theorycrafting from the podcast - playing combos, playing Armageddon. Love it
I really enjoyed playing against Richard's bird deck (and Phil's Tireless Tracker proxy deck ;) ). He manages to build decks that are both a danger to everyone at the table yet fun and unassuming.
Poor Crim being accused of stax when he was just helping the table jam more games with some classic burn. Loved watching the Ojer deck, such a fun commander to have at the table.
7:10 "this isn't burn because it reminds me of another burn deck." You'd think someone who loves blood moon as much as Seth would know what a stax piece is.
Stax slows down/locks the game so it can take people off their game plan and deploy its own. Fast burn is the exact opposite. You still don’t get to deploy your game plan, but that’s because you died, not anything to do with getting locked or disrupted.
I thought this was going to be an actual rule break. Like crim can play as many doomblades as he wants and richard can play 20 spirited companions lol. I really want this now.
I pointed the Seedborn Muse out to him during the game but thought the Sphinx was a 3-drop because I don't see it as often. Oh well, didn't end up mattering.
Can we get a special episode with the rule “everyone starts with a Panharmonicon emblem”? I would love to see whacky rulesets now that you’re playing in paper.
@@PalPlays Might as well make it a rule that says "Players cant win from combat damage, this includes commander damage" aka tell me that you're playing cEDH without telling me that you are playing cEDH.
@kobisjeruk That no combat damage rule is not at all the same as starting with 10000 life. With 10K life, I would aim to win with combat damage and no infinite combo. Good synergy decks can easily exceed 10K power, by a LOT. My Thromak deck by around turn 7 got over 1 with 40 zeros power. You just need some way to multiply, like doubling effects.
you guys are actually the best group of 4 ive ever seen super funny and interesting new decks every time, everyone knows what theyre doing and i love the 3-2-1 clash on! 😂
I don't know if these decks were especially high powered or if everyone stuck to the theme so much that no one really had much interaction so everyone just sort of goldfished into their thing.
Petition to have the arena emotes printed out on paper attached to popsicle sticks so you can periodically slide them into view from the bottom of your playing area to fully emulate the online experience.
I built an Ojer Axonil Brawl deck as soon as the card was spoiled. Roiling Vortex has been the all-star whenever it comes down. It's great to see Crim enjoying the card so much.
I love Crim but he seems like the type you tell we're doing mill this week and he's gonna put eldrazi or gaeas blessing in his deck to meta game his friends.
I have a Nethroi rat colony deck and I love it! Theres several cards that can only be played in that deck that are useless otherwise. Rememberance gets more rat colonies out of the deck when one dies. And Bloodbond March gets every rat colony out of the grave onto the battlefield whenever anyone plays a rat colony!
These are the fastest commander games I have ever seen lol. Great video! Gotta say I liked crims deck the most. It reminds me of my nitro deck I built to stop actual stax and pillowfort decks from making every game take 6 hours lol.
It could be interesting to see how functional you could make pauper commander decks. Especially since there are only 12 common legendary creatures, and they're all terrible.
*looks at video length*, huh this is a pretty quick game Crim: *plays roiling regrowth into descent into avernus* Oh okay that makes sense Edit: HOLY SHIT IT WAS 3 GAMES NOT ONE
I readed "breaking the card limit" and expected that they were either adding a "no hand size" rule or adding Yorion as companion or running battle of wits
Crim's Ojer deck is so sweet I have a lot of those cards but I never thought I could play the villain. Its got exactly the troll "I'm here for a good time" mentality.
@@josephwodarczyk977 don't get me wrong I want way more rules zero games now that they're in paper, but I don't think you can make four distinctive with that gimmick.
How does Deflecting Swat works on Test of Talents? Isn't Slime Against Humanity the only valid target? Or can you counter Test of Talents with the same Test of Talents once it's already on the stack? Or did you make it target Deflecting Swat which made it fizzle? (by the time Test of Talents resolves, Deflecting Swat is no longer on the stack)
@@jamesdavis5081 And since Deflecting Swat has already resolved by the time Test of Talents try to counter it, it fizzles and you don't get to search the other person's library
What happened to Crim is exactly why I took apart my mono-red burn deck. It never won because everyone killed me first just since they didn't like taking damage from spells/enchantments. (Even though they seemed fine taking damage from each others' creatures and infinite combos.) Red causing irrational rage is a bit flavorful, at least.
Those were some fun games! The Invasion land arts are some the of the best in my opinion and foils are chefs kiss. The editor has some mad skills but I kind of feel like it's being overly edited at times to the point it's a little dizzying/distracting.
The dynamic has changed. Richard, having seen Tomer play combos, has decided that combos are dope, actually, what if his deck just revolved around combos that either end the game one way or another? He either wins, or basically immediately kneecaps himself and doesn't have to care after that. Meanwhile, Crim has decided he's clearly tired of games that last too long, and has thus EMBRACED MAXIMUM VIOLENCE. I assume he has the DOOM 2016 soundtrack playing in the background, the editor just had to cut it out.
idk if anyone else feels this way but this is one of my favorite things to put on in the background and it kind of sucks that they have been getting shorter i like the hour long episodes
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Decent into avernus enabling accent from avernus was super flavorful
Lol “decent into avernus” is such a funny typo
@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai So is "accent from avernus." sounds like an un-card that makes you talk in a funny voice
Richard has gone mad with power now that they're in paper. He's really committing to his theorycrafting from the podcast - playing combos, playing Armageddon. Love it
goooood yes
I haven't listened to the podcast, what was he theory crafting?
Commanders that resolve and win 🤔 all in. Once in a while is ok, not sure how I feel about it back to back to back though.
@@michaelburt9888 Haha alright, ive def noticed some turbo combo decks but I haven't been following the season that closely :) thanks
I really enjoyed playing against Richard's bird deck (and Phil's Tireless Tracker proxy deck ;) ). He manages to build decks that are both a danger to everyone at the table yet fun and unassuming.
I love crim’s “is the stax deck in the room with us right now” remark. He’s hilarious
i know it’s a bit but it would drive me insane lmao
Poor Crim being accused of stax when he was just helping the table jam more games with some classic burn. Loved watching the Ojer deck, such a fun commander to have at the table.
Crazy take just seems like it shuts everyone out super fast no time to show off the cool decks
3 games in 39 minutes. That's really fast
And this episode was incredibly entertaining.
Yeah normally I would've been disappointed, but we got to see everyone pop off to some degree (and it was hilarious)
I love every time Crim is on mono-red. This is burn in EDH. Being here for a good time not a long time. Love seeing it
7:10 "this isn't burn because it reminds me of another burn deck." You'd think someone who loves blood moon as much as Seth would know what a stax piece is.
Stax slows down/locks the game so it can take people off their game plan and deploy its own. Fast burn is the exact opposite. You still don’t get to deploy your game plan, but that’s because you died, not anything to do with getting locked or disrupted.
if you think about it, Grizzly Bears is a stax piece because it lowers your life total until you can't play cards anymore
Milling anger was iconic lmao
Edit: I've been convinced to make a burn deck for my playgroup 😈
As a Torbran main from day 1, feel the bern
Richard has caught the Cascade fever.
Cascade and Discover have become some of my favorite mechanics
I thought this was going to be an actual rule break. Like crim can play as many doomblades as he wants and richard can play 20 spirited companions lol. I really want this now.
Same. I was a bit disappointed that no rule breaking was taking place since that's one of the benefits of playing in paper.
I thought they were removing the maximum deck size and making Battle of Wits and Yorion decks.
Same, petition for a non-singleton EDH match of some form!
Crim gave everyone treasures. It's clearly a group hug deck, not a stax deck.
Would it be more group slug?
Milling a dudes Anger is hilarious
Classic mill problem :D
Mill 1 too...
I LOVE that we got to see both the Descend into Avernus AND the Ascent AND the ascent did come right at the end of the game :D the flavor win
Love that Seth noticed he underpaid for the Seedborn Muse with the Avernus play but then clearly still puts the Sphinx into play. :)
I pointed the Seedborn Muse out to him during the game but thought the Sphinx was a 3-drop because I don't see it as often. Oh well, didn't end up mattering.
seth calling burn stax is my personal hell
words have meanings
Poor Seth (probably better known as SaffronOlive), the only one who didn't manage a win.
Hopefully we'll see his Petitioners in Revenge Week!
That spite mill for 1...
Milling an ANGER!! 😂😂😂
I loved when Crim cast all those dragons approach cards across both games. 😂
Seth in 2024: is this stax? Absolutely hilarious! Love these guys
BONUS GAME!!🎉
Absolutely love the transition to playing paper magic on the channel ❤❤❤
Great game guys!
That said, Burn is not STAX. You can still do the thing, it will just hurt 😂
3 games in less then 40 min😂😂😂 amazing I love it! Such goofy decks too!
Crim's deck is making my red little heart absolutely sing with joy. ❤🔥
Crim is the best magic personality lol love how he builds and plays.
Can we get a special episode with the rule “everyone starts with a Panharmonicon emblem”? I would love to see whacky rulesets now that you’re playing in paper.
"Everyone starts at 10000 life" would be interesting. Infect/ mill/alt wincons/commander damage/combo week.
i am down for them to play some games with giving everyone a certain emblem to start, could be really fun.
@@PalPlays Might as well make it a rule that says "Players cant win from combat damage, this includes commander damage" aka tell me that you're playing cEDH without telling me that you are playing cEDH.
@@kobisjeruk Starting at 10000 life does mean that things that let you pay life for value (black market connections, etc) would be a lot better.
@kobisjeruk That no combat damage rule is not at all the same as starting with 10000 life. With 10K life, I would aim to win with combat damage and no infinite combo. Good synergy decks can easily exceed 10K power, by a LOT.
My Thromak deck by around turn 7 got over 1 with 40 zeros power. You just need some way to multiply, like doubling effects.
absolutely love this episode. fast and crazy games with a wonderful amount of friendly banter. 10/10
IS THAT AN ARMAGEDDON!?!
"Descent into avernus is a group hug card" is the hot take I wasn't expecting and yet is hilariously true.
I can’t believe Seth is still calling it “Axolon”
This was a GREAT episode. Ton of fun to watch
you guys are actually the best group of 4 ive ever seen super funny and interesting new decks every time, everyone knows what theyre doing and i love the 3-2-1 clash on! 😂
for what looked like jank, those were some haymakers being throw around
These last few weeks have had an incredibly high power level compared to what we're used to seeing.
I don't know if these decks were especially high powered or if everyone stuck to the theme so much that no one really had much interaction so everyone just sort of goldfished into their thing.
This episode was outstanding. CLASH ON!
Seth getting closer to the mic to say "STAX" really make me laugh
"Is the stax deck in the room with us right now?" 😂😂😂
Excellent video! Loved seeing the fast paced games!
Damn, just saw that Crim had Mana Barbs in his decklist. That's just a nasty combo.
What, taking 4 damage for 1 mana? What’s wrong with that 😂
Wait... Crim's deck is more about Ojer Axonil than Approach of the dragons. I call shenanigans!
Going to have to play my mono-red deck now after watching Crim set the world on fire.
Petition to have the arena emotes printed out on paper attached to popsicle sticks so you can periodically slide them into view from the bottom of your playing area to fully emulate the online experience.
lol mtgo didn’t have emotes
3 games in under 40 min, that's gotta be a record
I must provide engagement and praise Richard's deck!
Want to build that deck card by card (minus the land destruction >:/ ).
I built an Ojer Axonil Brawl deck as soon as the card was spoiled. Roiling Vortex has been the all-star whenever it comes down. It's great to see Crim enjoying the card so much.
This was the funniest thing ive seen in a while.
Shout outs to the burn players
I love Crim but he seems like the type you tell we're doing mill this week and he's gonna put eldrazi or gaeas blessing in his deck to meta game his friends.
Crim’s deck reminds me of my Solphim deck and I am totally here for it.
nice to see this after the brewer's kitchen episode on these cards
Still a big fan of live action play! Keep up the good work guys!
I mean, Crim just played an Ojer deck. What Dragon’s Approach?
I have a Nethroi rat colony deck and I love it! Theres several cards that can only be played in that deck that are useless otherwise. Rememberance gets more rat colonies out of the deck when one dies. And Bloodbond March gets every rat colony out of the grave onto the battlefield whenever anyone plays a rat colony!
28:36 It is the same frame, it's just super dark for some reason, but it varied back in the day as well (though not that dark).
These games are freaking amazing! 2 games in 1 hour! I know it is edited but still these are much faster than before.
0:20 Phil!! Dang it! 😂 you didn't go for the rat pun? Rats go? Shame😅 but still this will be a good game I hope
These games were great. The format switch to paper has been overall a great choice. Keep it up dudes. 👍🏻
These are the fastest commander games I have ever seen lol. Great video! Gotta say I liked crims deck the most. It reminds me of my nitro deck I built to stop actual stax and pillowfort decks from making every game take 6 hours lol.
It could be interesting to see how functional you could make pauper commander decks. Especially since there are only 12 common legendary creatures, and they're all terrible.
*looks at video length*, huh this is a pretty quick game
Crim: *plays roiling regrowth into descent into avernus*
Oh okay that makes sense
Edit: HOLY SHIT IT WAS 3 GAMES NOT ONE
I readed "breaking the card limit" and expected that they were either adding a "no hand size" rule or adding Yorion as companion or running battle of wits
Lmao yeah my brain went to battle of wits :D
The black surveil lands are better than scrylamds because they enable reanimation
That was a great episode. lt must have just been a running joke to annoy crim, but I agree with him it's not stax 😅.
This was awesome! Y’all should do this more!
Crim's Ojer deck is so sweet I have a lot of those cards but I never thought I could play the villain. Its got exactly the troll "I'm here for a good time" mentality.
I thought this was gonna be house rule 100+. Glad it wasn't.
Blasphemy!
@@josephwodarczyk977 don't get me wrong I want way more rules zero games now that they're in paper, but I don't think you can make four distinctive with that gimmick.
How does Deflecting Swat works on Test of Talents? Isn't Slime Against Humanity the only valid target? Or can you counter Test of Talents with the same Test of Talents once it's already on the stack?
Or did you make it target Deflecting Swat which made it fizzle? (by the time Test of Talents resolves, Deflecting Swat is no longer on the stack)
Yep you have it target the Deflecting Swat. The same trick works with Imp's Mischief.
@@jamesdavis5081 And since Deflecting Swat has already resolved by the time Test of Talents try to counter it, it fizzles and you don't get to search the other person's library
3 games in one?? this is a great ep! lots of fun stuff goin on.
Woe I didn't expect these types of games but they were pretty enjoyable
I was hoping that Seth was going to bring back his Surgical Extraction Shadowborn Apostle deck albeit without the restriction.
this was the perfect week for Hedron Alignment
gotta love Richard's dedication to decks that would get you banned from your LGS
Surprised none of the lists are running locket of yesterdays
I love Descent Into Avernus. THIS GAME WILL END
BURN IN COMMANDER! HELL YEAH!
I love the switch from MTGO!!! Its so nice to be able to seamlessly have a game (or 3)
THAT WAS SO COOL I love ojer and seeing descent twice was awesome LOL
I do wish crim deck was more about the actual dragons approach tbh
I would have loved to see someone play my Shadow born Apostle Deck with Shuri, Shizo's Caretaker as the commander
This is my favorite episode this season
You managed to put the same description under the video as last week. Pretty sure that´s an accident, but it still fits incredible well.
What happened to Crim is exactly why I took apart my mono-red burn deck. It never won because everyone killed me first just since they didn't like taking damage from spells/enchantments. (Even though they seemed fine taking damage from each others' creatures and infinite combos.) Red causing irrational rage is a bit flavorful, at least.
Boy, the crew really liked the Surveil lands!
Nethroi selfmill is my pet deck! Excited to see what Phil does with him
Those were some fun games!
The Invasion land arts are some the of the best in my opinion and foils are chefs kiss.
The editor has some mad skills but I kind of feel like it's being overly edited at times to the point it's a little dizzying/distracting.
More game per second, Crim confirmed not stax.
Fun to see Ojer in the game! I also built it but i havent played with it yet. Took out the Avernus because it gives mana to others, tho :D
The dynamic has changed.
Richard, having seen Tomer play combos, has decided that combos are dope, actually, what if his deck just revolved around combos that either end the game one way or another? He either wins, or basically immediately kneecaps himself and doesn't have to care after that.
Meanwhile, Crim has decided he's clearly tired of games that last too long, and has thus EMBRACED MAXIMUM VIOLENCE. I assume he has the DOOM 2016 soundtrack playing in the background, the editor just had to cut it out.
Woo! Slime time! Win or not gotta love the ooze.
I don't really understand Crim's play with [Deflective Swat] at 9:10, can someone kindly explain?
he used deflecting swat to change the target of the counterspell to deflecting swat, which resolves before the counterspell, making it fizzle.
Hold on, mill 1. Anger! Hahaha what a great moment
Crim: Breathes
Seth: Wouldn't that make you a stacks player
Crim's doggo in the back had my attention the whole time.
Saffron didn't pay enough mana for the sphinx.... He cheated
proud of him
Great episode
Commander Clash using Spell Table is so much nicer to watch than MtGO.
idk if anyone else feels this way but this is one of my favorite things to put on in the background and it kind of sucks that they have been getting shorter i like the hour long episodes
WHAT IF.... you played commander as a format that had up to 4 of each card like normal. Exception Commander is a 1 of.
When did Richard turn into Tomer-AKA-mr-kikijiki-2-card-comboer?
Nice to see a returning item on the menu @crimothy