Totally agree on the wish for more minimalistic running shoes from Altra. In particular for road running. Would love a road running equivalent of the Superiors.
I too agree that I'd prefer a return to a more minimalist running shoe. I am actually a racewalker and have been favoring the Escalante or Escalante Racer. For me, the Escalante 3.0 is not a favorite, just too much sole. Bring back something similar to the 2.5. I've enjoyed the Superior as well although end often wearing it as a casual shoe. Overall, from my perspective, Altra is producing too many shoes with thick soles reminding me of Hoka which I really don't care for!!
The FWD is definitely another experience. The midsole stands out the most in comparison to other models, and not thr drop. I feel it brings a nice variation in my rotation. The different load on the muscles is a positive for me.
Ive been wearing the Escalantes as a casual shoe, but found the Torin 7 is actually a better choice given how the upper does not retain water in the same way.
The Escalante 3 does everything I need a road shoe to do, I don’t see the need for any more cushioning or stiffness. If I didn’t already have a wide choice of trail shoes I’d probably get the Superior 6 or Lone Peak 7
TD great overview. I am new to Altra and came to them for help battling a neuroma. I tried the Torin 7 but found it really dug into my ankle bone to the point it was painful. Also found the Torin for me is not ideal at all for any speed sessions. I swapped them out for Rivera 3 and really love them. They have just the right amount of cushion and are lively/light enough I can use them for speedwirk and easy/long runs. One thing I wish is maybe for a wider toe box on them. Are there any other models similar to the Rivera that would offer the same experience with a wider toe box (and without digging into my ankle)?
Hey! Great question! If you don't mind a 4mm drop, you could try the Altra FWD Experience. It's slightly more cushioned, but is wider (similar to the Torin). As for Altra's zero-drop shoes, there's no real alternative other than the Torin. Maybe the Escalante, but it is more minimalistic with 24mm stack height, so I'm not sure you'd like it.
@@TDMiller I use only Altra or barefoot shoes but that vJ model is footshaped like Altra, go and Google it 😊 Thats why Im interested in that for winter runnning.
You mentioned the Lone Peak 8 coming in Jan. Do you know more about the updates in that version? I skipped the 7s and found old pairs that I really liked. I've been waiting to learn about the 8s.
I'm afraid not much. Rumoured to have an new upper offering improved durability. I posted a few pics on my community tab if you've missed them. We can expect a decrease in price compared to previous versions, which I'm happy to see. 👍
I love the FWD but I’m feeling a similar thing in my right hip that I’ve never felt in the Torin. I think it is the drop but at least my Achilles feels good.
Good question. Which Torin are you currently wearing as reference? The Torin 5 & 6 and Vanish Tempo run a little short, but the 7 bigger. So I'd recommend to get the same size if you currently have the 5 or 6, or size up if you have the 7. Hope that helps!
If you pronate, it's surprising you like the Olympus. They're neutral but have slight correction for supination. Provision and Paradigms almost crippled me bc of this
i've seen the outroad mid which is basically a stitched up gaiter or sockliner although very nice regal/delux(can't be arsed to find the right words, none native speaker zzz) red/yellow/black. not sure if it's supposed to be gen1 or gen2, def not gen3 as the design got changed completely
I bought them just to have a shoe with a little but of drop in my rotation to load the muscles different. Have the grey/blue version. Looks really good. I feel its the midsole that makes it different to other models, and not the drop
Totally agree on the wish for more minimalistic running shoes from Altra. In particular for road running. Would love a road running equivalent of the Superiors.
Great videos! Please do a video about about your running form/strike, how long you run for, what you eat.
Awesome thumbnail! Haircut ain't too shabby either!
Thanks! 🤘🏻
Hi There TD. I forgot to mention that I so appreciate your videos and I like your new haircut!
Thanks! Glad my vids are helpful to others, despite my channel becoming a little repetitive 😅 and I'm slowly getting used to short hair again 😄
I just bought Rivera 3 after years of many Torin, and I am hoping that Rivera is the new Torin.
Thank you for your review.
riv3 is how the via should have been for lack of more words
Good choice! Hope you like them!
I too agree that I'd prefer a return to a more minimalist running shoe. I am actually a racewalker and have been favoring the Escalante or Escalante Racer. For me, the Escalante 3.0 is not a favorite, just too much sole. Bring back something similar to the 2.5. I've enjoyed the Superior as well although end often wearing it as a casual shoe. Overall, from my perspective, Altra is producing too many shoes with thick soles reminding me of Hoka which I really don't care for!!
The FWD is definitely another experience. The midsole stands out the most in comparison to other models, and not thr drop.
I feel it brings a nice variation in my rotation. The different load on the muscles is a positive for me.
Ive been wearing the Escalantes as a casual shoe, but found the Torin 7 is actually a better choice given how the upper does not retain water in the same way.
The Escalante 3 does everything I need a road shoe to do, I don’t see the need for any more cushioning or stiffness. If I didn’t already have a wide choice of trail shoes I’d probably get the Superior 6 or Lone Peak 7
TD great overview. I am new to Altra and came to them for help battling a neuroma. I tried the Torin 7 but found it really dug into my ankle bone to the point it was painful. Also found the Torin for me is not ideal at all for any speed sessions. I swapped them out for Rivera 3 and really love them. They have just the right amount of cushion and are lively/light enough I can use them for speedwirk and easy/long runs. One thing I wish is maybe for a wider toe box on them. Are there any other models similar to the Rivera that would offer the same experience with a wider toe box (and without digging into my ankle)?
Hey! Great question! If you don't mind a 4mm drop, you could try the Altra FWD Experience. It's slightly more cushioned, but is wider (similar to the Torin).
As for Altra's zero-drop shoes, there's no real alternative other than the Torin. Maybe the Escalante, but it is more minimalistic with 24mm stack height, so I'm not sure you'd like it.
LP, Timp 4, Escalante 3 and racer, Olympus 5 are my favourites! Considering VJ Sarva Ace for winter because of spikes.
VJ look awesome, but so narrow in the toebox. I'd love to test their shoes, but it's hard for me to try out other brands 😅
@@TDMiller I use only Altra or barefoot shoes but that vJ model is footshaped like Altra, go and Google it 😊 Thats why Im interested in that for winter runnning.
Nice overview
Hi, I hope Altra releases a leaner trail shoe or brings back King MT 2. Something with minimal cushening and huge lugs for the technical trails.
You mentioned the Lone Peak 8 coming in Jan. Do you know more about the updates in that version? I skipped the 7s and found old pairs that I really liked. I've been waiting to learn about the 8s.
I'm afraid not much. Rumoured to have an new upper offering improved durability. I posted a few pics on my community tab if you've missed them. We can expect a decrease in price compared to previous versions, which I'm happy to see. 👍
I love the FWD but I’m feeling a similar thing in my right hip that I’ve never felt in the Torin. I think it is the drop but at least my Achilles feels good.
Vanish Tempo has been my best Altra shoe so far. It's not great (the white colour sucks, the tongue is thin, it's not zero drop), but the foam rocks!
Hey @TDMiller. I wear a size 9 US torin and want to buy the vanish tempo. Should I stick with size 9 US or move to 9.5 US?
Good question. Which Torin are you currently wearing as reference? The Torin 5 & 6 and Vanish Tempo run a little short, but the 7 bigger. So I'd recommend to get the same size if you currently have the 5 or 6, or size up if you have the 7. Hope that helps!
If you pronate, it's surprising you like the Olympus. They're neutral but have slight correction for supination. Provision and Paradigms almost crippled me bc of this
i've seen the outroad mid which is basically a stitched up gaiter or sockliner although very nice regal/delux(can't be arsed to find the right words, none native speaker zzz) red/yellow/black. not sure if it's supposed to be gen1 or gen2, def not gen3 as the design got changed completely
True! I did read that somewhere, but never saw any images. Same goes for a Timp Carbon prototype, but again, nothing official.
@@TDMiller they are just slapping lonepeak or olympus or mont blanc treatments in there hahah
I just have to say.....I do not like the look of the FWD. I almost convinced myself to try it......but I came to my senses.
that colorway is straight up tecton era hoka lol
I bought them just to have a shoe with a little but of drop in my rotation to load the muscles different. Have the grey/blue version. Looks really good.
I feel its the midsole that makes it different to other models, and not the drop