Saying goodbye to binary gender | Pani Farvid | TEDxAuckland

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  • Pani talks about how the dominant heterosexual societal way of our culture has many downsides and proposes using more masculine and feminine ways of describing characteristics and not people could have benefits for all.
    Pani is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology at Auckland University of Technology. For over a decade, Pani has researched the intersection of gender, power, culture, sexuality and identity - largely focusing on how heterosexuality plays out in domains such as casual sex, online dating, mass media and the New Zealand sex industry. She is currently focusing on examining mobile dating, in order to explore how such technology is (re)shaping intimate relations in the 21st century.
    Her work seeks to dismantle the rigid gender binaries associated with heterosexuality. She is a regular media commentator on issues related to gender, sexuality, gender equality and sexism.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • @markporter9738
    @markporter9738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    @2:56 "We don't speak of a male or female liver." You may not but those who actually study this do:
    "One of the less evident physiological differences between males and females resides in the liver. Male and female livers express different subsets of genes, which affect the organ's ability to metabolize certain drugs and hormones. This in turn impacts numerous processes, such as reproduction. While the sexual dimorphism of the liver has been recognized for several decades, scientists are only recently beginning to uncover the genes involved."
    Source: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. "Genetic Basis For Gender Differences In The Liver." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 17 October 2003.
    For example: The "sexual dimorphism" between men and women with regards to alcohol tolerance.

    • @shazardify
      @shazardify 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mark Porter so lets say if you need a liver transplant you would rather wait for a liver that is from someone according to your sex rather then have a readily available liver from someone opposite to your sex?

    • @MiaMartel64
      @MiaMartel64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      lol yup, as soon as it got to that point, out of curiosity, I paused and googled, and indeed there are differences between male and female livers.
      i'm trans myself. the trans debate is a mess at the moment largely due to so many different voices saying so many different things, doing unequal amounts of homework, saying the things they say for varying reasons...
      gender identity is largely biological but the whole conversation is just a big mess right now.

    • @billymacwraps203
      @billymacwraps203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactilly. And also a womb...
      The science on physiology is more than clear in many areas. Hormone production, facial hair, cellulite, etc... It's the behavioural psychological aspect that is the most difficult to convince people of. Because you are literally dealing with a strong strong belief system. And people won't budge no matter what because they have made it their identity.

    • @IcelanderUSer
      @IcelanderUSer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mia Martel what’s your point? We know there are physical differences between men and women. The issue is whether a person identifies as one or the other regardless of their physical makeup.

    • @shinygiveaways1920
      @shinygiveaways1920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@IcelanderUSer you contradicted yourself. Its true, there are physical differences between men and women, not just genitals. This means that a biological man is a man and vice versa.

  • @verdigris672
    @verdigris672 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is kind of misleading. This is about what behaviours and characteristics are associated with males and females and that masculine-feminine binary, not the actual gender binary itself.

    • @biancafletcher-gunev8196
      @biancafletcher-gunev8196 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      so you wanted her to talk more about the concept that men and women are opposites? The title of this video is accurate...- saying goodbye to gender binary - she talks about gender binaries, how they affect society, and why she thinks its wrong...did you want her to spend more time explaining what binary meant...prob would have helped you.

    • @verdigris672
      @verdigris672 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bianca Fletcher-Gunev
      No, I wasn't interested on listening to how we are 'opposites'. Many people who look at this video will assume that this will be about individuals who do not identify as being within the gender binary. I'm just saying that this title will be misleading to some people, that is all.

  • @rhezzz
    @rhezzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Beautiful talk. The MAIN points are very relevant to today s world and the HUGE toxicities of pushing the societal boxes of ideal masculine and ideal feminine. As we all loose out trying to stuff and limit ourselves to unreal, made up and really VERY SHALLOW superficial boxes.
    Loved the closing of your talk. Nice to hear someone speak what i was thinking but didnt know exactly how to put it in words. But you did so well. Thank you.

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Men have built the world as we know it: cities/bridges/sea-tunnels/railways/roads/ship yards/ plus the major inventions* /discoveries/explorations on earth and in the sky. I have a list of thousands of professions where MEN excel just because WOMEN happen not to choose.

    • @rhezzz
      @rhezzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onlignebridge4224 perhaps u have just emerged into the world so you are NOT AWARE of the history of this earth society where women were DENIED THE RIGHT TO AN EDUCATION UNTIL THE LAST 50 years or so when it became law (1972 in the US i believe) there should be no discrimination based on gender. In the past my friend, it was actually a shameful thing for one s daughter to be educated, DO UR RESEARCH PLEASE so u understand the full context n the history of this world. So OF COURSE, (NO DUH!) only men were able to be out in the workforce for the majority of human history n would be the ones who were the inventors.
      Though i have no idea what this all really has to do with the video.
      Male born human beings have made immense contributions to the world, so have female born. It s not really a question. Though arguing who did more is rather unfai,r for really the female born human was given the responsibility of HOLDING THE WHOLE FAMILY UNIT UP, while her spouse was out at work. Without her , the spouse wouldnt be able to do what he does. She s a necessary support system , like a firm backbone and really her contribution is FAR MORE than we give credit historically.
      Anyway this video to me was about how we actually LIMIT THE HUMAN born male into boxes, be this but not that, we cut him off from parts of himself in violent ways, especially when it comes to his more creative /emotional side and the effects of this is TERIBBLY DESTRUCTIVE TO HIMSELF AS A FULL HUMAN BEING N TO ALL AS A SOCIETY.

    • @aaronb1331
      @aaronb1331 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THE GENDER DOES COME FROM NATURE EVEN IF THE HUMAN PUT IT IN BOOKS OR NOT, THE GENDER IDENTITY COMES FROM THE HUMAN MIND AND INVENTION IT'S NOT REALITY NO MATTER HOW MANY WORDS OR FEELING JUSTIFY IT.

  • @terraflops
    @terraflops 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    YOU FAILED TO GO BEYOND THE GENDER BNARY. >

  • @adamsilesia5753
    @adamsilesia5753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went through a stage when I stopped pushing tampons into my lower torso...because did not do it.

  • @Tn087
    @Tn087 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Nothing says we don't know what we're talking about like wiping the comments.

  • @m-smasoudinia1117
    @m-smasoudinia1117 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I proud you
    Bravo

  • @johnpurcell827
    @johnpurcell827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As a typical man I spend half my time thinking about how to reinforce the hegemonic heteronormative patriarchy and the other half trying to decide how best to perform my gender. Thank God I've seen this and now all that will change.

  • @BrightRomeo
    @BrightRomeo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7.07 Anyone else heard the word ''dickheads'' :))))))

    • @gimygaming8655
      @gimygaming8655 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did .....

    • @cristianbits4898
      @cristianbits4898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She noticed around the last two dickheads . Girl loves to do them heads :))

  • @sympathy4thedevil88
    @sympathy4thedevil88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pragmatically.
    If someone is going to chemically or surgically transition, how many choices do they have?

    • @zoeschmitt1624
      @zoeschmitt1624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A whole bunch, actually! Ranging from which hormones they take in what quantities, to which parts of their bodies they want to keep vs. having them altered/removed through which procedures! Not everyone makes the exact same choices for their transition.
      Perhaps a quick google search can give you a more detailed answer, but that’s the gist of it. Hope this helps! ^_^

    • @sympathy4thedevil88
      @sympathy4thedevil88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoeschmitt1624 it does for the actual procedures/treatments, thanks! More specifically I was trying to find information/understanding of your choice on what you transition into is only one of two "genders", male or female correct? or can you do something else if that's not what you identify as? If there are only two choices of gender you can transition to, how can there be multiple genders? Is the idea that gender isn't a physical thing, it's more a feeling or personal belief/identity?

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sympathy4thedevil88 I suspect you know more than you're letting on. But let me just say that many, many transmen and transwomen may as well fall in the non-binary category. If it makes any sense, I'm a transwoman who has ALWAYS been a "tomboy" at heart. Imagine that :) If I was a cis-female I'd be a tomboy. But I love, love my femine body. And I love, love talking about sports, working in the garden, fixing things, building computers, wearing my hat backwards. I'm just me :)

    • @sympathy4thedevil88
      @sympathy4thedevil88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atlantic_love my confusion is if you can only transition into two genders surgically, wether male to female or female to male, for whatever reason, how can gender be re defined in a myriad of a spectrum?

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sympathy4thedevil88 "transition into two genders surgically"? Educate yourself. I've no time for your bigotry.

  • @shainquartz8450
    @shainquartz8450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    12:29 preach! This is all so very true

  • @sctl
    @sctl ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a bit curious about the personality studies she refers to. I have observed in the people I have got to know who claim to have transitioned, that personality is not part of the transition, so trans women that have the personalities of men. A result of social conditioning? Because we cannot reverse time, we may never know.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have not observed what I've observed, then. I'm a transwoman and I do not have the personality of a man, and no transwomen I know are like that. Are you an ally?

    • @sctl
      @sctl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atlantic_love So we have different perceptions of the people around us, not surprisingly. This is why I would like to know what parameters are studied in the publications the speaker mentions. My view is that, if there are significant commonalities in personality and energy between women born female - ciswomen, if you like - and between transwomen that do not cross over to any degree, it should give us pause as to whether or not to endorse the idea that gender is identity, as opposed to context.
      Am I an ally? I believe that every person is entitled to a basic level of respect, regardless of his/her opinions and views. At the top of my alliances relevant to this discussion would be that to free speech.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sctl LOL, you're so obsessed with proving trans people wrong. Just admit it. The best thing you could do is just accept people for who they are in terms of gender, and move on. There's no need for anyone to validate themselves to you, and your attempts to invalidate us are inappropriate.

  • @augustine.c8204
    @augustine.c8204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    there's only one chromosome that differentiates male and female, so i guess we can totally ignore that amirite

    • @davidchilders3574
      @davidchilders3574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

    • @davidchilders3574
      @davidchilders3574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One chromosome per cell with trillions of cells in the body me thinks!

    • @ellanassar9189
      @ellanassar9189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have liked the talk and i agree but that argument is very weak: trisomy is about one extra chromosome, heck a single gene can make a whole difference between having a disease and being healthy let alone an entire chromosome.

    • @myhappyabby
      @myhappyabby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about we stop making it the only thing we talk about, and instead have a more intelligent and well rounded conversation.

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your gender after all?

  • @vinassolamnus8790
    @vinassolamnus8790 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OK she started with similarities of gender which is followed by pay gap and domestic violence. What is the point, what does she want to proof ? It seems this talk is full of stating the obvious that combined with some assumptions including the gender pay gap. Of course we should treat the variations among humans equally and fairly, but how can you deny biology and secondary traits that we bring inherently. How can you deny billions years of evolution that have shaped us and our behaviours as it did in fellow animals. For example, the biology usually gives men a bass voice and large hips to women. However, it is also not wrong to have thin voice or small hips. We should teach our kids these facts and variations, but not the assumptions and politically correct nonsense. We should teach them to respect differences, but we cannot define novel nonsense terms to support wrong. You cannot measure the magnitude of difference just by looking chromosome pictures. Furthermore, the society not only teaches us gender roles but it also teaches us language and social behavior (where to shit, cleaning habits, eating habits etc etc), so do we need to assume those are also wrong ? I cant believe how this talk ended up in TEDx, pitiful and horribly confusing. It seems this talk jumps into conclusion to satisfy politically correctness.

    • @TaraVictoria93
      @TaraVictoria93 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      empirical evidence about the pay gap isn't "assumptions". You obviously are someone who relies on science for understandings so why ignore scientific evidence about aspects of lives that you deem false as a matter of opinion. Your straw man argument about social behaviour vs gender roles is weak, you know gender constructs are not the same as those behaviours. May I add that gender behaviours in fact fall into social behaviour and genders it, in way discussed above. Your conservatism is not "right" but meerly your opinion, there is no need to cover discussions about gender as "political correctness"

    • @Darkdaej
      @Darkdaej 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      actually I'm not surprised this ended up on a TEDx talk. political correctness and Leftist bias is rampant at those conventions...

    • @vinassolamnus8790
      @vinassolamnus8790 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Empirical evidence", what empirical evidence ? So you believe that two people in very same company with identical jobs earn differently ? You actually believe that ? That means an employer can save up to 22% by only replacing males to females ? Can you show me that empirical evidence ? I can show you some from FORBES if you like, www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/#34481c194766 . Before you say, this is of course "patriarchal conspiracy". BTW biology or secondary traits of genders have more empirical evidence than anything else, but who cares empirical evidence if it denies third wave feminism. "Empirical evidences" are empirical unless they deny political correctness or third wave feminism.

    • @victoriapond1250
      @victoriapond1250 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Check out this guy, 'Forbes is empirical evidence', hahaha

    • @vinassolamnus8790
      @vinassolamnus8790 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Ms. Strawman. Forbes is not empirical evidence but the article in Forbes which cites empirical evidence is an empirical evidence. If you have any counter argument, enlighten us. Otherwise, simply "fuck off".

  • @brojoDan
    @brojoDan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Some minor differences have been found.." followed by list of massively significant differences.
    I totally agree that each individual should be encouraged to express themselves however they wish, and that both masculine and feminine traits are needed in society for it to function well. However, gender (the biological difference between men and women) is neither arbitrary or a choice. You could easily have this discussion without needing to attempt to discredit the impact of biology

    • @HardyFajardo
      @HardyFajardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen!

    • @vekkstar
      @vekkstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, those are minor differences. Those that she speaks of as making men and women similar are those that matter.

  • @Xentradi97
    @Xentradi97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Men and women differ by only one chromosome... yes this is true. But by that logic we can also negate the difference between human and primate like Chimpanzees who we share 98.8% identical DNA. That small difference may not be much in terms of numeric perception, but can be a huge difference in biology. Please use a better analogy.

  • @Amanda-he7rv
    @Amanda-he7rv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect!

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Men have built the world as we know it: cities/bridges/sea-tunnels/railways/roads/ship yards/ plus the major inventions* /discoveries/explorations on earth and in the sky. I have a list of thousands of professions where MEN excel just because WOMEN happen not to choose.

  • @nadjetoti1700
    @nadjetoti1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:50

  • @nadjetoti1700
    @nadjetoti1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30

  • @antoniojperezcastro5013
    @antoniojperezcastro5013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gender is biological, linked to chromosomes and hormones, and defines your identity as a man or a woman. Trans men have the brain development of a man, that is why they identify as men. All Ms. Farvid is explaining here is called "gender roles", not gender. Definitely as she explains gender roles are cultural and influenced by the environment a child grows in. Agree we need to expand what being a man is, traditional gender masculine roles should not be idealized and there are many sensitive men of course. Relaxing or eliminating gender roles is something I agree with this talk, but do not confuse things, gender roles and gender are completely different things.

  • @chrispaige8880
    @chrispaige8880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If the gender binary is not natural, which society avoided it? 12:40 in & you still haven't given a single example of a non-binary culture; you've merely demonstrated that there's been change within the binary construct.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      150+ native American ethnicities had three genders. Tons of primitive societies around the world have more than two genders, the Orang Bugis of Indonesia even have five genders.

    • @wodzisaww.5500
      @wodzisaww.5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hannijazz3276 Why are their cultures inherently better than mine? Why should we change to be like them?

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@wodzisaww.5500 Wow, you totally missed the point. I was saying that the fact that some cultures have more than two genders proves gender is not inherently binary, and you twisted it to make it sound as if I was saying that those cultures are somehow superior (which is a ridiculous notion, no culture is ''better'' than another). Good job mucking up the discussion.

    • @wodzisaww.5500
      @wodzisaww.5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hannijazz3276 You missed my point, I'm not attacking you, superior, I admit is too strong a word, I apologise.
      My question still stands, why can't the societies with different belief systems coexist?

    • @user-mq8el4mf3q
      @user-mq8el4mf3q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wodzisaww.5500 World used to have lots Maternillian culture too but we should not forget more than 75 per cent or even more invade or dominated by Abrahamic religion that enforces strict gender roles and didn't accept the fluidity because of their rigidity to even accept different concepts regarding the God too

  • @FrkVildkat
    @FrkVildkat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Sadly; I fear that it will take decades, if not centuries, before enough people think like this...

  • @Ag8MrE
    @Ag8MrE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yes, men and women are similar on a host of traits. Of course we are, we are all homo-sapiens.
    Humans and chimps are also similar on a host of traits and genetically we're almost the same. But the differences that are so important actually come from small variations. In other words, it doesn't matter how many traits we are similar on, it's the (small) differences that matter. That said, I wish we would just get over gender entirely. We make far too big a deal about gender and the sooner we get over it, the better.
    Sex, on the other hand, does matter. Making sex distinctions is useful. I don't see a GP for birth-control pills, because I am a dude. There is no point in my wife asking for a prostate exam, because it is highly unlikely that she has prostate cancer. Maybe I am throwing caution into the wind, but I don't bother with smear tests. Urinals work fine for me, but my wife is not that keen on them.
    Being able to generalise based on sex has advantages. We don't put female boxers in the ring with male boxers. Sure, some female boxers may defeat some male boxers, but on average the females will not fare well. That's not sexism, that's biology.
    Brain dimorphisms are real, but similarly based on averages. The male brain is, on average, larger than the female brain. This doesn't mean they are smarter, but they are different. Different sub-structures in the brain have proportionally different sizes. Hormone receptors in the brain differ between males and females. The location and size of speech centers differ between males and females. All these structural differences lead to different outward expressions. Rather than denying these differences, let's accept, exploit, and celebrate differences.
    And why is it that it is predominately females that study gender issues? Farvid could do a lot more to dispel unhelpful gender myths and stereotypes by studying engineering instead of 'critical' psychology. But then, girls aren't very good at maths, are they?

    • @kinglouenleoncoeurofbreton4112
      @kinglouenleoncoeurofbreton4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Men and women are both humans, but it doesn't mean they are the exact same, like biologically speaking. I'm a masculine Asian Canadian guy who likes to date feminine girls and some racists think Asian guys are feminine when it's not all true. Stereotypes are all wrong, especially the negative ones.

    • @dualm2961
      @dualm2961 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are so many masculin women and feminine men. Do you you think they do that for fun? Everyone is wired diffrently.

  • @wherethecrowflies1965
    @wherethecrowflies1965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This is one of the best Ted talks I've seen for a while.... in fact excellent....

    • @thekingrah6882
      @thekingrah6882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitly

    • @Huron2000
      @Huron2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I absolutely agree, she nailed everything

  • @alexg.1707
    @alexg.1707 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This is an amazing ted talk, more people need to see this

    • @orkadian4173
      @orkadian4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, for comic relief at the end of a hard day working out in the sun. But then, it is too long a joke! Something with a quick punch line would be less of a waste of energy!

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So preference for most capable, healthy mate is a bad thing, huh?
      What?

  • @myhappyabby
    @myhappyabby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such an awesome conversation on Gender Equity and Equality. Shame you're being trolled by so many people who couldn't be bothered to watch it all the way through before commenting on it.

  • @tayyabakhalid7908
    @tayyabakhalid7908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wonderful.
    She spoke my heart out😍

  • @onlignebridge4224
    @onlignebridge4224 ปีที่แล้ว

    *We share nearly 1/3 of our genetic sequence with potatoes* . Does this mean that humans are 1/3 potato?!

  • @moodyme4290
    @moodyme4290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This 'stuff' is very much a 'western' issue

    • @orkadian4173
      @orkadian4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And everyone else in the world is laughingly watching the West self destruct because no one has the balls to say "See a psychiatrist!"

    • @lorettasanchez1184
      @lorettasanchez1184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very iNDOCTRINATED

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorettasanchez1184 No, it's not. Nothing you claim is actually based on scripture or fact. Riddle me this: how many sexes are there?

  • @smirkingdevil
    @smirkingdevil 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is way beyond my ability to comprehend, so I stopped trying.

  • @HardyFajardo
    @HardyFajardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sexism does not necessarily leads to non-binarism. Accept it or not gender is binary and based on science and not on feelings, belief or social construct.

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Men have built the world as we know it: cities/bridges/sea-tunnels/railways/roads/ship yards/ plus the major inventions* /discoveries/explorations on earth and in the sky. I have a list of thousands of professions where MEN excel just because WOMEN happen not to choose.

  • @chrispaige8880
    @chrispaige8880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Toy stores determine gender - really? Aren't they in the business of making money? Maybe that's what customers demand. The idea that corporation synthesize demand has one problem: why would they stop demand at its current levels? If they can create demand, why not create more?

    • @miriamdelblanco7379
      @miriamdelblanco7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The current financial market determines our lifes in general, so why wouldnt it have an effect in gender?

    • @chrispaige8880
      @chrispaige8880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miriamdelblanco7379 If they (sellers) had the power to change demand,, they would not exercise that power in favor of the gender binary; they'd exercise that power to maximize profits. Sellers don't care whether everybody is a boy or a girl or neither or both; they only care about profits. Sellers who don't profit maximize are replaced by those who do (as those who do are more profitable, so they get more capital until they replace their less focused rivals). Synthetic demand is a very popular idea amongst those who don't understand business and economics.

    • @miriamdelblanco7379
      @miriamdelblanco7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrispaige8880 i think maximazed profits dont fall from heaven. Good spots and campaings have a huge influence in us. Just look at tiktok clothing trends. But going back to gendered toys, how could anyone affirm that any girl/boy choose freely girl/boy toys in this biased society? We dont have any control population to proove that otherwise it would be different, so we cant know for sure if there would be parity and a neutral world, we would still make gender-associated choices. So the best we can do is offer equal opoortunities (chosing toys too, which is very important in the growing) having representations of both genders in both sexes.

  • @humble.pie.
    @humble.pie. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You're on this earth for a short time and you can't have everything you want whenever you want. Everything is a compromise.

  • @elainegoad9777
    @elainegoad9777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She talking about masculine European.

  • @onlignebridge4224
    @onlignebridge4224 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♣Gender identity have it that *MEN have always built roads and rail tracks; dig tunnels and mines; erect skyscrapers and dams* ..etc..etc..etc
    ♣I will spare you the reminder of who invented the steam engine, the printer, the lift, the penicillin, and thousands of other discoveries.

  • @etualojeda
    @etualojeda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Idiocy is so courageous!

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว

      Your post makes you look like a coward.

  • @basketbear6126
    @basketbear6126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A beautifully well-presented ted-talk. Thank you!

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Men have built the world as we know it: cities/bridges/sea-tunnels/railways/roads/ship yards/ plus the major inventions* /discoveries/explorations on earth and in the sky. I have a list of thousands of professions where MEN excel just because WOMEN happen not to choose.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว

      @@onlignebridge4224 You can stop with your spamming. What you're spouting has nothing to do with gender identity.

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atlantic_love Gender identity have it that *MEN build roads and rail tracks; dig tunnels and mines; erect skyscrapers and dams* ..etc..etc. I can go on and give you thousands of such instances. If you have counter-examples in this respect I'm listening.
      I will spare the reminder of who invented the steam engine, the printer, the lift, the penicillin, and thousands of discoveries.
      So are you still willing to talk?! Before you do, explain what your gender identity is.

    • @onlignebridge4224
      @onlignebridge4224 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atlantic_love *99% of the best world sports records are held by men* . Is this social engineering?!

  • @Madmen604
    @Madmen604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If what ms. Farvid says is true, that gender identity is a social construct, is she saying homosexuality is a good week learned identity? Is it a psychosocial experience rather than bio-psycho-social?

  • @cbhteammember5569
    @cbhteammember5569 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Say goodbye to this whiney victim mentality. This talk is literally about this one persons opinion about the world and how it should change to make them more comfortable.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why shouldn't the world be changed in order to make its inhabitants more comfortable?

    • @cbhteammember5569
      @cbhteammember5569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannijazz3276 Because comfort can be subjective and variable. There are billions of people on this planet and everyone has different ideas of what makes them feel comfortable. Your comfort might make someone else uncomfortable. Imposing your single individual view on the entire planet telling billions of people to all bend to your comfort level only invites conflict. Just imagine how you feel when I say that you questioning my comment makes me uncomfortable so you shouldn't be allowed to respond to any more comments anywhere on the internet...you might make someone else feel uncomfortable 😉

    • @user-mq8el4mf3q
      @user-mq8el4mf3q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cbhteammember5569 yeah, the majority of human people do stuck with their primitive genes and only highly intelligent go beyond their natural behaviour and western society usually rich so do at a level to think beyond just biology

  • @riva7061
    @riva7061 8 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    A powerful message that unfortunately many aren't able to handle just yet.

    • @trez735
      @trez735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Many disagree...that doesn't mean they can't handle it!

    • @marcusdavis5599
      @marcusdavis5599 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solar the Porpoise yes yes, because EVERYTHING is a construct...

    • @artgurrl
      @artgurrl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's a message based on ideology not science and reality. It's mythology and a narrative, not factual.

    • @VAMR-vc7xg
      @VAMR-vc7xg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because most of us have a brain.

    • @shainquartz8450
      @shainquartz8450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have faith in the coming generations to truly shift perceptions in a profoundly impactful way

  • @dacracking5768
    @dacracking5768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never actually agree with Ted talks, but there are alot if points which she is saying which I'm quite against.

  • @7dri7n
    @7dri7n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is one of the best Ted talks I have ever seen.
    It's such an amazing and important message

  • @stefanmckannon1634
    @stefanmckannon1634 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sure would be great if we all behaved as sovereign individuals, no matter the physical, spiritual or psychological gradient of masculine and feminine. Either way, the polarity of masculine to feminine is what adds spice to our relationships and in the physical sense even brings about new life.

  • @thatguyjon3784
    @thatguyjon3784 ปีที่แล้ว

    IF anything this woman said was at all truthful... then why is it that as schools in the western world carer to the learning styles of girls, boys have been suffering academically? The logic simply doesn't hold up when you take into account the facts that boys are grossly underperformed in the current academic environments, when compared to girls. As a result, boys are failing and dropping out at 3 times the rate of girls. And yet... this raises no alarms, because society doesn't care about boys, until it becomes time to fight a war.

    • @cupboardofcheese1529
      @cupboardofcheese1529 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      out of interest do you have a link about this?

  • @furryempath9619
    @furryempath9619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Muslim...

  • @charleswarren1901
    @charleswarren1901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When civilization is in conflict, or particularly in times of war, the essential differences between men and women become clearer.

  • @ion063
    @ion063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how she just throws stats that have no corelation to the subject, nor help her case

  • @KeepCalmDirectioners
    @KeepCalmDirectioners 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paulo Freire!!! One of the greatest educators in brazilian history

  • @great567
    @great567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there are underlying reasons why we feel the way we do, about beauty beyond just what culture says but also through evolutionary psychology.

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mostly based on ignorance, rarely based on experience, because MOST people truely aren't intelligent enough to see the world is much more beautiful not confined with a box of falseties and scripture that never actually existed.

  • @AngusJones
    @AngusJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel this talk started off semi-alright but just went downhill. The last 4-6 minutes still sounded as if they weren't up to much speed discussing gender social constructs in a way that includes 'trans' people.

  • @cdmontano
    @cdmontano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I want my 5 minutes back!

  • @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367
    @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367 ปีที่แล้ว

    exascerbate not exasperate

  • @LeezPgh
    @LeezPgh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    YES YES YES. 100% support all the way. Thank you Pani. Thank you. Thank you. Keep up the good work!!!!

    • @cassiusdio1138
      @cassiusdio1138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dont breed

    • @no_misaki
      @no_misaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This message is detrimental to the human psyche. It's nothing but 3rd wave feelings "science" drivel.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@no_misaki Your psyche is different from some one else's psyche. Stop assuming that everyone in the world thinks like you.

    • @no_misaki
      @no_misaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannijazz3276
      "Your psyche is different from some one else's psyche"
      And I didn't assert otherwise. I never made the argument that other points of view don't exist simply because I have my own, only that I disagree with the other perspective in question.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@no_misaki OK, then don't say ''human psyche'' and instead say ''my psyche'', which would be more in line with reality.

  • @ishfaqulhaqueduke3238
    @ishfaqulhaqueduke3238 ปีที่แล้ว

    But, what is a women?

  • @dixinormous8539
    @dixinormous8539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    yawn

  • @chrispaige8880
    @chrispaige8880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know I missed the sermon where I was told to get all the cash and the ladies; oh, right because that is NOT part of Christianity. So you live in a country that's what 60 to 70% Christian, but you claim your society promotes messages that are obviously not Christian, see my problem? Who or what is promoting & requiring the things you claim are being promoted & required? Your carelessness with defining terms renders your argument incomprehensible - you're just slamming together popular words and ideas.

  • @chrispaige8880
    @chrispaige8880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Male traits are elevated above female traits? I love how feminists just assert this without any proof. What does this even mean? It seems to me, for example, that "mothers" are pretty popular & pretty idealized - is "mothering" a male trait? More generally, it seems to me that caring for other people is pretty popular - is "caring" a male trait? Yes, government honors "male" traits because governments make wars & warfare is "male," but why and how does that mean society honors male traits? Stop conflating government and society - they're very different. But, yes, I agree with your unstated premise that government favors men over women - another reason for less government!

  • @ari-veikkoanttiroiko9554
    @ari-veikkoanttiroiko9554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is unfortunate that this kind of post-factual social constructionist thinking is gaining ground, even if it obviously contradicts not only common sense but also science. Interestingly, all the descriptions of femininity and masculinity were intentionally stereotypical, i.e. rhetorically exaggerated, while psychologically and social scientifically relevant differences were downplayed, all this meant to justify non-binary thinking. Yet, all this can be easily explained by science, from biology (incl. intersexuality) and psychology and social psychology (incl. gender dysphoria). There are biological and evolutionary explanations for having two different sexes, which have become fixed precisely because they were natural and conducive to our survival. Natural deviations and variations do not require non-binary thinking, but a flexible binary thinking, which fits much better with both common sense and science.

  • @nicksmith3431
    @nicksmith3431 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    science has proven that men are different biologically then women physically and mentally. this is not debatable.

    • @gimygaming8655
      @gimygaming8655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes!

    • @rebeccarogers15
      @rebeccarogers15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Everything is debatable. To not allow debate is called fascism. There may be some truth to what you say, although I would debate the scientific fact of what you are saying.

    • @alanaban3519
      @alanaban3519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @TheybornInTheSnow
      @TheybornInTheSnow ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't met me yet have ya

  • @obadiah1045
    @obadiah1045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In other words boys and men must change, but women need not!

    • @fatimetousheikheselmou4406
      @fatimetousheikheselmou4406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All ppl need to change including myself and all we are victims

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fatimetousheikheselmou4406 Um...literally, yes? Have you ever been at least hurt by somebody in your entire life? Come on, it doesn't make you weak by admitting that you can be hurt.

    • @wodzisaww.5500
      @wodzisaww.5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannijazz3276 Is appealing to divinity to be the root of your problems productive?

  • @rosejacks8662
    @rosejacks8662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, just imagine! The world would be a a better place. Thank you!

    • @cristianbits4898
      @cristianbits4898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Without y'all non binaries in it ! Yes !

  • @breevestal
    @breevestal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Anti-science

  • @heydude7568
    @heydude7568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i think you mean saying goodbye to common sense

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your common sense is not the same as someone else' common sense. And common sense is not always correct.
      Heck, in order to acquire critical thinking, you *should* first get skeptical of common sense :)

  • @UrbanSurvivalcraft
    @UrbanSurvivalcraft 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Well this was a snorer......

  • @supersaiyan7046
    @supersaiyan7046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gender is based in biology and is further fine tuned by culture.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or, in other words, socially constructed ;)

    • @supersaiyan7046
      @supersaiyan7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hannijazz3276 Gender is constructed from biology then reinforced by society. The social construct is a reflection of biological instincts. This debate is similar to the "what came first, the chicken or the egg" argument.

    • @dualm2961
      @dualm2961 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supersaiyan7046How do you explain masculin behavior in tomboyish girls?

  • @Kodzokami
    @Kodzokami ปีที่แล้ว

    A good analysis in theory but with flawed practical proposal on a fundamental basis. This brilliant woman, in her 10 years of university that she flags at 7:46, did not grasp a simple concept: the ideas she got in her youth were needed for her to conceptualize an alternative. She needed their mere existence to counterpose to them. Without them, she would have had no clue on what to exceed. Overcoming duality means the loss of the 'other side' in human identity making and the total inability of definition. A true idiocy and real schizophrenia.

  • @gommisras2244
    @gommisras2244 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    So many things wrong with this. This lady should work in a Daycare Centre for a substantial period of time. She might then see that blurring the lines between genders goes against behaviors, thoughts, choices in play the children naturally choose. There isn't anything empowering about blurring lines, rather the opposite. The brain of a male works completely differently to that of a women. When we misunderstand this there tends to be problems, because then expectations are matched to the misunderstanding. e.g women expecting men to think like they do and vice versa. There have been amazing brain activity studies that show th clear difference in female and male brains.

    • @LisaWolfe
      @LisaWolfe 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not sure what you mean by this. I ran a preschool for years. While most kids choose their biological gender, and this was clearly coming from them, there were a small minority of children who chose the opposite sex from their assigned, or were more fluid. My youngest child, biologically female, insisted from age 2 that "she" was a boy. With no transgender people around, this was not coming from external influence.

    • @trez735
      @trez735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You hit the nail on the head!

    • @VAMR-vc7xg
      @VAMR-vc7xg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mouvement de Libération-Liberation Movement Wrong - by blurring the lines everyone feels VERY uncomfortable.

  • @queerasaclockworkorangehor1776
    @queerasaclockworkorangehor1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry. I'm not sold.

  • @majesticspaceduck876
    @majesticspaceduck876 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    It's illegal to pay women less than men. Why are we still hearing about the wage gap when this has been debunked so often?

    • @RosscoAW
      @RosscoAW 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Because it still exists? That's like saying, "Why are we talking about heroin and cocaine? They're illegal, so the problem's solved." Nope. Sorry. Naive, counter-productive, harmful, uninformed, and generally negligent perspective. Try again.

    • @arnoldthomsen6571
      @arnoldthomsen6571 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There is no wage gap.
      Try again.

    • @majesticspaceduck876
      @majesticspaceduck876 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +RosscoAW The figures quoted for men and women are averaged over the population without taking into consideration, job type, industry or hours worked. As I stated, it's illegal to pay women less than a man for the same work. I hope this helps.

    • @RosscoAW
      @RosscoAW 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gary Keenan You can wish that your perception is accurate as much as you want, but willing ignorance of reality doesn't justify your worldview. Sorry. Try again. You could try starting with, for example, and this is just a roughshod idea shot in the dark, but you could try providing some evidence, references, citations, even a quotation. (That'll be the day.)

    • @majesticspaceduck876
      @majesticspaceduck876 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +RosscoAW mate, I've tried explaining it to you. Do you actually think that a woman doing the same job as you will be paid less? What do you not understand about this?

  • @hanka4077
    @hanka4077 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Demagogy. Great example how to incorrectly interpret the statistics and downplay the findings that do not matched with expectations.
    And moreover contradicts herself. Stating men and women are mostly alike but women are much more likely to experience a violance or be killed by a man. How comes when we are the same?
    Just took and presented bunch of most repeated ideological cliches without even thinking about them.

  • @lekgregory610
    @lekgregory610 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    SO many provably false conclusions in this talk. Psychological studies conclusively prove that men and women differ psychologically across cultures. For example, in the 5 core personality traits, the greatest difference being negative emotionality / neuroticism which is higher in women and is CROSS-CULTURAL. The differences in gender are GREATER in egalitarian places like Sweden, so it is not "socio-culturally constructed". She's obviously skewed her conclusions by saying culture caused the differences, which is *wrong* and not supported by the cross-cultural data. Jordan Peterson (professor of psychology) discusses pre-schools in Sweden, where kids as young as 2-3 were raised gender-neutral as desired by the parents... even these kids reverted to gender normative behaviours and tendencies just like normal boys and girls did. At least the boys weren't forced to behave like girls... Following this lady's ideas would be CHILD ABUSE.

  • @onlignebridge4224
    @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *You avoided to answer the core question* : why, in the first place, have societies consensually raised boys as typical boys and girls as girls since the ancient Iraqi, Chinese, & Egyptian civilizations?

  • @gabrielahansen683
    @gabrielahansen683 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is one of the best tedx ever. Who doesn't agree on this or doesn't get it is lost in their own make belief bubble.

    • @andrewmalcolm3209
      @andrewmalcolm3209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh the irony..

    • @cdmontano
      @cdmontano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gabriela Hansen
      Poor you.
      It is not about agree or desagree... It is about foolness ideas.

    • @no_misaki
      @no_misaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, I'm afraid you're caught up in what's know as the "millennial snowflake pseudoscience" bubble.

    • @TPGNATURAL
      @TPGNATURAL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gabriela Hansen We all live in our make belief bubble. If you agree with me I admit I will be a little surprised. Then you may actually believe you don't. So you can look into informal fallacies and cognitive biases to see we all have tangled thinking when it comes to what is really going on. Look at how we as people are disagreeing on some things all over the place.Why do you think so many of us can't understand why others don't understand what is really going on. Twisted thinking, look up Jonathan Haidt.

    • @marcillioficino4663
      @marcillioficino4663 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pani and the idiots who are pushing this nonsense are the ones lost in their own "make believe" bubble.

  • @stevend.bennett427
    @stevend.bennett427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great example of how common sense is far better than advanced degrees of mis-information.

    • @hannijazz3276
      @hannijazz3276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your comment is a great example of how folks are so entitled to their opinions that they call them ''common sense'' and call everything else misinformation. Very 21st century.

  • @m-smasoudinia1117
    @m-smasoudinia1117 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iranian always are best

  • @undergroundminer3262
    @undergroundminer3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Gender is Binary because reproduction is Binary

    • @demiligne3456
      @demiligne3456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's more to social gender than reproduction. You don't judge someone's gender on the street by their genitals.

    • @undergroundminer3262
      @undergroundminer3262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@demiligne3456 the only relevance gender holds is in regard to reproduction.

    • @jamesgtoxed6669
      @jamesgtoxed6669 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@demiligne3456 there's only 2 ffs.

  • @wongkingshun
    @wongkingshun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this talk seems portrait woman is a victim which is not so much in the western culture..

  • @cassiusdio1138
    @cassiusdio1138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The title alone.. BWAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAH good fuckin LUCK

  • @Panwere36
    @Panwere36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No. This is utterly meaningless in the light of fact.

    • @ish4638
      @ish4638 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are

  • @criointhenews
    @criointhenews หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is absurd.

  • @rattsjcfanpage01
    @rattsjcfanpage01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People are either man or woman, not trans and/or not either.

    • @Aaron-hh8nx
      @Aaron-hh8nx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly some people don't get it

    • @rattsjcfanpage01
      @rattsjcfanpage01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aaron-hh8nx I know

  • @no_misaki
    @no_misaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a disturbingly disillusioned woman.

    • @ShadowMan66
      @ShadowMan66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep she is a complete head case!

    • @lorettasanchez1184
      @lorettasanchez1184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      INDOCTRINATION IN ACTION!!

  • @he-mememan359
    @he-mememan359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are significant biological and psychological differences, feelings are irrelevant.

  • @andrejvuk2751
    @andrejvuk2751 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This woman is nuts.

  • @pigeon445
    @pigeon445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    But like honestly, both men amd women should shave their arm pits. Please. It's smelly.

  • @perceivingacting
    @perceivingacting 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's _women_ (pl) not _woman_ (pl). Ridiculous.

  • @ArizonaBaySwimming
    @ArizonaBaySwimming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes yes we heard you on the radio with the same messages. You crammed such a huge amount of lies and propaganda into that 30 minute slot. Congratulations on your 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒇𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝑺𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒑𝒔𝒊𝒔𝒎 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒆𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈. Congratulations on your female mind.

  • @patriciamoscato6586
    @patriciamoscato6586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn't a man up there discussing this.

  • @onlignebridge4224
    @onlignebridge4224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *You MUST be grateful to MEN* who have enabled you to drive a car/use an elevator/fly in a plane/use printer & computer/ scroll your phone/travel under sea...etc *All of this thanks to the MALE endeavors*
    Why all societies have all raised the boys to do such feats?!

  • @cdmontano
    @cdmontano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a full of mistakes speach.
    Poor girl, poor bases, poor research, no cientific ideas just out of context.
    TED need ti check this ideas and stop empty heads speaking.