Dan Dennett: Responding to Pastor Rick Warren

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  • www.ted.com Philosopher Dan Dennett calls for religion -- all religion -- to be taught in schools, so we can understand its nature as a natural phenomenon. Then he takes on The Purpose-Driven Life, disputing its claim that, to be moral, one must deny evolution.
    TEDTalks is a daily video podcast of the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world's leading thinkers and doers are invited to give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes -- including speakers such as Jill Bolte Taylor, Sir Ken Robinson, Hans Rosling, Al Gore and Arthur Benjamin. TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, and Design, and TEDTalks cover these topics as well as science, business, politics and the arts. Watch the Top 10 TEDTalks on TED.com, at
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  • @Sauromannen
    @Sauromannen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Teaching various religion history is what we do in all Swedish schools like the rest of the Scandinavian countries do. That’s one of the reasons why we are the most secular and non-religious countries in the world.

    • @19ghost73
      @19ghost73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We do the same in Germany, too, since at least 5 decades...and only recently (and with the addition of 18 million mostly non-believers in Eastern Germany) we have turned more and more secular. So, no, teaching only "religion history & facts", is not the sole reason why a nation is more secular than others.

    • @Sauromannen
      @Sauromannen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@19ghost73 ”That’s one of the reasons...”, OK?

    • @jreyas6263
      @jreyas6263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hardened hearts. Seminary hardens men's hearts. Real men of God see the supernatural power of God and experience him.

    • @voodoodisco
      @voodoodisco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jreyas6263 LOLOLOL ok then

    • @grantm6514
      @grantm6514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@jreyas6263 Education may harden men's hearts, but religion makes them soft in the head.

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Truth does not fear inquiry, only falsehood does.

    • @cosmikskeptik9877
      @cosmikskeptik9877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ....like the fat, putrid pig in the WH?
      Where's his taxes?

    • @thinkislamcheckmychannel
      @thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True.
      Therefore try to use critical thinking to critique Dan's ideas.
      Lots of fallacies but unfortunately atheists are developing Cult like behaviours too.
      One example
      2:00
      Begging the question fallacy
      Using an analogy to make a point is not proof

    • @leehogg6248
      @leehogg6248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@thinkislamcheckmychannel that is not an atheistic view but a scientific one. And if proven wrong would and should be corrected. As a Muslim are you prepared to correct the quoran on all of its falsehoods, mistakes, misinformation and hate speech ?

    • @PatrickLHolley
      @PatrickLHolley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, agree.

    • @BassByTheBay
      @BassByTheBay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thinkislamcheckmychannel There's no "Begging The Question" fallacy. That fallacy is another term for circular reasoning -- where exactly is his circular reasoning? More importantly, he's not trying to _prove_ anything with his analogy. He's simply making an argument for a curriculum change, i.e., he's arguing for adding the teaching of factual religious history to the core three "Rs" curriculum.
      Maybe you can clarify your point.

  • @xxxccc4034
    @xxxccc4034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.-
    Richard Francis Burton

    • @shaunmcinnis1960
      @shaunmcinnis1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You got that right my friend

    • @greglogan7706
      @greglogan7706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As a Christian theist I actually tend to agree that for the most part are theology's and are deities are a product of our own egos and sentiments. Breaking out of that and allowing the Creator to manifest and reveal Himself is no easy task.

    • @xxxccc4034
      @xxxccc4034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@greglogan7706 Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

    • @petervelasco5728
      @petervelasco5728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did that include himself? He must've been praying to himself when he prayed & thought he was God/a god. Which way is the mental institution?

    • @barrysmith1202
      @barrysmith1202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      religion as a social dominance game, the shrewd over the gullible; the religious elite worshipping themselves

  • @lotfibouhedjeur9897
    @lotfibouhedjeur9897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +752

    No pictures of a young Dan Dennett on Google. This confirms my assumptions: This man must have been born old, wise, and bearded.

    • @keitha4768
      @keitha4768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      For some reason, I've always thought that if there was a god, it would look like Daniel Dennett and instead of telling me about the truth of any particular dogma, he tells me that consciousness is actually really easy to explain.

    • @blacbraun
      @blacbraun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Just like Gandalf.

    • @brianoc22
      @brianoc22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Born old and pompous more like

    • @kmasse81
      @kmasse81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Like Yahweh

    • @MrRecrute
      @MrRecrute 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @Brian O Callaghan, doesn’t come across as pompous. Perhaps I’ve missed something or perhaps you’ve imposed your bias to his talk.

  • @SirTenenbaum
    @SirTenenbaum 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1197

    "Surrendered people obey God's word, even if it doesn't make sense." -Pastor Rick Warren
    That, ladies and gentlemen, is why people fly planes into buildings.

    • @oremfrien
      @oremfrien 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes and No. The difference is that the implication of the Rick Warren quote is that the person is moving to reject the God's word but chooses not to because it is God's word. The people who flew the planes into buildings did so because they believed without question, i.e. they did not have this internal dialogue.

    • @twodashfacedman2412
      @twodashfacedman2412 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      oremfrien Begging the question?

    • @oremfrien
      @oremfrien 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TwoDashFaced Man
      I do not see how this falls into the "begging the question" fallacy. There is no point where the conclusion is assumed in this apparent difference in thought patterns. Please advise.

    • @dmck8615
      @dmck8615 9 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I've researched Holy Scripture since 1982 and never observed direction to fly airplanes into buildings. I did observe the admonition to not murder or steal, or lie or covet your neighbors servant or possessions. Also advised to love your neighbor and feed, house the poor...

    • @twodashfacedman2412
      @twodashfacedman2412 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      D McK You failed to understand what the comment actually means.

  • @WoollyMittens
    @WoollyMittens 10 ปีที่แล้ว +647

    When TED still had balls.

    • @Ianjcarroll
      @Ianjcarroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      well said... TED is nothing more than a cult

    • @mrtechnophile3483
      @mrtechnophile3483 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ian Carroll explain your position.

    • @thiagowutzkeod2453
      @thiagowutzkeod2453 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ian Carroll
      How so? I don't really see that

    • @Raz.C
      @Raz.C 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you mean that ole' Teddy got a vasectomy? Or did his nuts get snipped off?

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      citation needed

  • @chrismccann9164
    @chrismccann9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Great idea, just heard a fitting quote by Matt Dillahunty " give a child one religion and you will indoctrinate them. Give a child all religions and you will inoculate them " this will always stick with me, I think we need to learn more about all religions and culture. Knowledge is power and ignorance is no excuse

    • @paragonofvirtue270
      @paragonofvirtue270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Chris McCann : well said .

    • @Charlie-wl2qt
      @Charlie-wl2qt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Excellent quote, thanks for sharing.

    • @HelloTuuuurdz
      @HelloTuuuurdz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

    • @patriceriksson7924
      @patriceriksson7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is so true

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I've been saying that for years in a longer way. This wording is much more effective.

  • @AtamMardes
    @AtamMardes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    "Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool."
    Mark Twain

    • @lawrence1318
      @lawrence1318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Christianity isn't religion. It's a personal relationship with Christ. A personal relationship isn't a religion just because the relationship is with God. It's just a relationship where one party is physical and one a spirit. That doesn't make it religious.

    • @AtamMardes
      @AtamMardes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@lawrence1318 *Simple facts and a simple general question for you.*
      *Fact 1:* Christianity teaches you to thank God for giving life to you and also for giving life to animals for you to take their lives and eat them.
      *Fact 2:* Christianity teaches you to thank God for choosing you out of many other praying patients to recover from illness as many other praying patients were ignored by God and died.
      *Question:* Can't you see how the charlatan theologians have fooled your gullible-self to believe in an imaginary God by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, arrogance and ignorance? No offence, just asking.

    • @lawrence1318
      @lawrence1318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AtamMardes Rather, when are you going to think past your nose and realise that if there is no God and no afterlife, then it doesn't matter what anyone believes, for according to you everyone disappears into nothing forever. So you are contradicting yourself by even talking about these things.
      Basically you're acting as though when you no longer exist you'll be able to tell others who also no longer exist that you were right and they were wrong.
      But the fact that deep down inside you know these things are important eternally, should tell you that there is a God and an afterlife.

    • @ploppyjr2373
      @ploppyjr2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lawrence1318 atheists don’t talk about religion because they secretly know that god exists or something. They talk about it because religion causes hurt in allot of situations. Also having a relationship with god doesn’t matter. If you believe in the existence of a god that created the universe you are religious.

    • @lawrence1318
      @lawrence1318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ploppyjr2373 You're contradicting yourself. If there is no God and we are all just atoms which are going to dissociate in a few years so that it will be as though we never existed, it shouldn't matter whether anyone is hurt. Stalin and the philanthropist both end up not existing.
      So you are confused. You are appealing to moral concepts in what is according to you an amoral universe of matter. That you can't see this, shows us you are no philosopher and can't think past your nose. The idea that we are all typing on keyboards, playing tennis, listening to Elvis records, building motor cars and meeting up at restaurants, all suspended out in space and all by chance, is ludicrous. You need to get out of the house a bit more.

  • @arseniyonline1234555
    @arseniyonline1234555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Democracy depends on informed consent" - now we know why things are so broken

    • @tehspamgozehere
      @tehspamgozehere 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The mushroom method of government is a classic. Keep people in the dark and feed them sh.. er.. lies. The ignorant are far easier to rule.

  • @brianfreeman5880
    @brianfreeman5880 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I love you Daniel Dennett. You see potential in humanity, which is one reason why you give these talks. Thank you man.

    • @brianfreeman5880
      @brianfreeman5880 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL. I see no nonsense coming from DD. And he deserves those symbols he gets paid.

  • @AlfFieldArt
    @AlfFieldArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I found this very intelligent and civilised. Personally, it matched my own thoughts. I also like the gentlemanly way Dan expressed his differences from others. No nastiness, no brutal language, no dogmatism. Thank you Dan Dennett.

    • @ogpcpa
      @ogpcpa ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When you're in the right, there's no need for nastiness. People get nasty when they can't use facts to back up their feelings.

    • @valivali8104
      @valivali8104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ogpcpa sometimes pain and being hurt can cause nasty behavior; for example if someone calls you nasty names even when you are right, you will likely become nasty.
      I tend to lose my patience when other one keep using empty claims and false information so much that it becomes lying.

    • @irisgonzalez-caulder9352
      @irisgonzalez-caulder9352 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @irisgonzalez-caulder9352
      @irisgonzalez-caulder9352 ปีที่แล้ว

      Orit
      "When your in the right there's no need for nastiness"
      Nastiness ISN'T, ok, at times
      nor, RIGHT, at times.
      Kindness, is right, everytime.
      But that doesn't define
      the "individual" is right.
      I'm 59 yrs old
      and since 2015

    • @tehspamgozehere
      @tehspamgozehere 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@valivali8104 Indeed. There's a guy in another thread here trying the old lie of 'atheism means people are just animals and can be slaughtered, so atheism killed everyone'. It's so blatantly false, but people like that keep right on saying it. Beyond infuriating, and after seeing it bleated so often by people who ought to know better, I'm sorely tempted to be as nasty as the spiteful, hateful claimant is being. Polite refutation and education only works if someone is listening.

  • @wrenlittle8826
    @wrenlittle8826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I received that kind of 'religious education' in a public school in Denmark over forty years ago.
    It liberated me.
    Brilliant BTW Mr. Denett

    • @michael_leclezio
      @michael_leclezio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But that's it, whatever religion you might be born in does not want to "liberate" you.

  • @awesomealv
    @awesomealv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +642

    Wow, I had no idea how secular Santa was.

    • @perztsdr
      @perztsdr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ..you get the Santa you believe in..or do not believe in.....or need....or become youurself...(Oh ho ho ho home!) from Santa Anthony FYI: check my facebook page out: Santa Anthony" ...we can all participate with EVEN......the iconic understanding and Presence of Santa and MRS Santa (Claus)

    • @dorianphilotheates3769
      @dorianphilotheates3769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Anthony Valdez - lol. The whole “Santa” thing is just a seasonal gig; in real life he’s a philosopher

    • @dunneincrewgear
      @dunneincrewgear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Anthony Valdez
      Reminds me of the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa...

    • @rhabdob3895
      @rhabdob3895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You didn’t? He’s like the face of secular.

    • @kerwynwilson
      @kerwynwilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

  • @TerryMcGearyScotland
    @TerryMcGearyScotland 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Never heard of DD until today. Great philosopher. I hope he is still alive and kicking and trying to make sense out of the world.

    • @jonwolynies7465
      @jonwolynies7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Your message is three years old but I have to reply he is still alive at 79. He has released a number of books over the years.

    • @TerryMcGearyScotland
      @TerryMcGearyScotland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jonwolynies7465 Thank you. I am glad to hear that.

    • @dmmusicmusic
      @dmmusicmusic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonwolynies7465 and in the main his books are the same garbage endlessly repeated/ regurgitated over and over and over again,( there is no God); he'll die and be buried and be forgotten and the Bible will remain at the top of the all time best seller list and Jesus's name be known and spoken about world-wide until the absolute end of time.

    • @tracewallace23
      @tracewallace23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonwolynies7465 Your comment is 11 months old now, just letting you know somebody else appreciated your response to a 3 (now 4) year old comment🙂👍

    • @gaelmiranda4758
      @gaelmiranda4758 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He’s passed away now :(

  • @helenhollis3984
    @helenhollis3984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    As a human that escaped a cult, I find this something I can not stop thinking about.

    • @ericgrabowski3896
      @ericgrabowski3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What Cult did you escape from?

    • @helenhollis3984
      @helenhollis3984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@ericgrabowski3896 The Jehovah's Witnesses

    • @ericgrabowski3896
      @ericgrabowski3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@helenhollis3984 Well im happy youre free now!!

    • @gregorywilliams5105
      @gregorywilliams5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Good for you. I hope you're doing ok.

    • @alexthesecond462
      @alexthesecond462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@helenhollis3984 isn't it crazy how an organization could high jack your life, make your life about their interests and have you do it willingly

  • @chrisray9653
    @chrisray9653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    If religionists were actually confident that their belief system is true, they wouldn't demand special education, because their belief system would be appealing to a critical thinking adult who has never heard of it before. Every religion actually has those converts.

    • @ipodtouch495
      @ipodtouch495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They also wouldn't need to kill people for trying to leave the religions like our good friends in Saudi Arabia seem to love doing.

    • @thinkislamcheckmychannel
      @thinkislamcheckmychannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean by special education?

    • @Pheer777
      @Pheer777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alex Atreides Not really. Those crazy megachurches are a small minority

    • @pdworld3421
      @pdworld3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an interesting statement because the scopes trial came about because of darwinism.

    • @leehogg6248
      @leehogg6248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thinkislamcheckmychannel I think they mean , Catholic schools, Islamic schools etc. The purpose of this is to legitimise that particular belief system without genuine supporting evidence.

  • @ihatereligion9744
    @ihatereligion9744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I couldn't agree more! My college level theology classes, cemented my atheism!

    • @danielessex2162
      @danielessex2162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is why conservative republicans hate liberal colleges.....because it teaches the ability to question things and to properly find facts.

    • @mmccrownus2406
      @mmccrownus2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what the pin head communist manipulators intended it to do. Look deeper

    • @totalcap2989
      @totalcap2989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielessex2162 yes go get that art degree lolol

    • @danielessex2162
      @danielessex2162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totalcap2989 Oh your one of them people who think the only classes at "liberal colleges" is an arts degree?
      Ignoring the facts that any college that right wingers claim is a "liberal" college is any college that teaches anything they don't like. So due to the fact you don't seem to know what classes and courses are taught at "liberal colleges" shows your bias.

    • @kahlesjf
      @kahlesjf ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@totalcap2989 Yes, do. Just being on campus in an academic environment and you will learn how to think for yourself and how to learn new things on your own. That smug attitude that college is a waste of time and money is the result of indoctrination by those who want to be able to control you through propaganda for the rest of your life...politicians and big business. Remain one of their puppets if you want to, lolol.

  • @Roedygr
    @Roedygr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Children are going to grow up in a world where most people have a different religion. It makes sense they will need to understand how they tick.

    • @PaulBrown-uj5le
      @PaulBrown-uj5le 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hopefully all children will grow up knowing all religion's are nonsense and a con mans wet dream, the money religion's make is obscene.

    • @baddoggie101
      @baddoggie101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Religious belief has nothing to do with sense (logic).

    • @Gpacharlie
      @Gpacharlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roedy Green Yep 👍🏼

    • @SStupendous
      @SStupendous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PaulBrown-uj5le Hopefully all children will grow up not being indoctrinated into anything, and having the freedom of choice.

    • @SStupendous
      @SStupendous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @FlyboyCGC Because freedom isn't worth praying for?

  • @mayanma
    @mayanma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    What a gentlemanly and dignified presentation of arguments! I salute you, Sir.

  • @andrewwright1922
    @andrewwright1922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Debaters take note! This is a masterclass in steelmanning another's argument. Brilliantly done!

  • @petmomful2260
    @petmomful2260 9 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    I am an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac. I lay awake all night wondering if there is a dog.

    • @Pikeandslippers
      @Pikeandslippers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This comment has not received the recognition it deserves. Very funny.

    • @suzanneyoung6273
      @suzanneyoung6273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      petmom ful You are what you say you are. If you’re a Christian, Jesus Christ lives in you. Is He sick, NO. So why are you? Command Satan to go, and take his lies with him.

    • @Pikeandslippers
      @Pikeandslippers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@suzanneyoung6273 do you know what a joke is?

    • @PariahQuail
      @PariahQuail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Pikeandslippers I am an agnostic insomniac dyslexic dog trainer. I lay awake at night wondering wether or not dog will come when I call.

    • @dr.redpill353
      @dr.redpill353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      originality is NOT the purview of atheism.

  • @mistou26
    @mistou26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It is always so stimulating to listen to such a wyse and learned man.
    What a pleasure to learn from any of his speeches.

    • @StraightEdgeHeathen
      @StraightEdgeHeathen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep it up, maybe you'll improve your spelling skills.

  • @maesc2001
    @maesc2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What you seem to require about teaching religion in school is exactly what we had in Belgium in the mid-seventies. As a note: the most influential teacher I ever had on this, teaching atheistic views as well, was a catholic priest, no other. Still have fond memories of his classes in high school.

  • @IHScoutII
    @IHScoutII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Most humans are too ignorant to even consider this man's proposals.

    • @shaunmcinnis1960
      @shaunmcinnis1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cant you be more specific?

    • @iwanwillemse7703
      @iwanwillemse7703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nooo most americans are

    • @iwanwillemse7703
      @iwanwillemse7703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@shaunmcinnis1960 he means americans or maybe just southerners specifically those from alabamy

    • @soslothful
      @soslothful 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect you exempt yourself.

    • @soslothful
      @soslothful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iwanwillemse7703 Childish insults might work better with consideration of basic proper sentence construction.

  • @matalata
    @matalata 5 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Looks like Socrates finally started writing things down.

  • @matgggg55
    @matgggg55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Why do religious people need all the answers now. Throughout history they have always had the “right answers” but simply we all know that is not true

    • @PBAmygdala2021
      @PBAmygdala2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Matthew:
      It's because of the right amygdala in the limbic region of their brain.

  • @PaulH1748
    @PaulH1748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The Earth was irrigated from the ground-up? A 600 year old man spent a hundred and twenty years building a boat? And people wonder why religion is dying.

    • @Mrcrisis2012
      @Mrcrisis2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thats the truth of Gods word....Its called the Christian faith...not religion

    • @smileybubbles9894
      @smileybubbles9894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If it was easy to believe it would not require faith. If it was easy to understand it would not require the effort that God wants you to put into studying his word.

    • @Mrcrisis2012
      @Mrcrisis2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Justin winter because of the sin of mankind

    • @Mrcrisis2012
      @Mrcrisis2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All religion should die it's fruitless,, .Religion is man reaching up to God through his own means....Christianity is God reaching down to man through Jesus christ....Christianity is not a religion but a faith....and religion is not a faith....but merely an effort of man's ideas to reach God..which is completely fruitless...✝️✝️know Jesus now

    • @kylewalter3111
      @kylewalter3111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Mrcrisis2012 I'm sorry, but christianity is a religion

  • @DLFfitness1
    @DLFfitness1 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
    ― Carl Sagan

  • @TonyAKA30
    @TonyAKA30 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I'm a bit disappoinTED that such a great video uploaded 12 years ago only has 1.2 M views...

    • @jpapan1
      @jpapan1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Id say TH-cam's algorithm. I've watched enough atheist experience and stuff by the other horsemen. This should have shown up in my recommendations much sooner

    • @gregorioeduardo
      @gregorioeduardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1 year after your comment @400,000 more views

    • @blueheron5232
      @blueheron5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most people aren't that concerned with Truth as much as with the false sense of security they get from the illusion of safety in numbers and the soul-crushing conformity that orthodoxy demands. The truth, however, is simply not a matter of consensus and does not require even anyone's recognition let alone anyone's alignment with it to simply be itself. Don't sweat it.

    • @gregorioeduardo
      @gregorioeduardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blue Heron Long winded answer to explain the algorithm process on youtube.

    • @MrLibranda
      @MrLibranda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there probably only a select type of person who would look at this video.

  • @rajeevyukthivadi-houston2581
    @rajeevyukthivadi-houston2581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I totally agreed with Dennett’s opinion to teaching about all major religions in school so in that way the students have a better knowledge about each and every religion in this world and their cultures and this will help kids to respect other kids who has another faith.

  • @philosophyfrog2653
    @philosophyfrog2653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Feels good to listen to a sane person for a change.

    • @tehspamgozehere
      @tehspamgozehere 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is the first presentation of Dan Dennett's that I have listened to at the suggestion of Seth from The Atheist Experience. Whether you agree with what he says or not, it's a fine display of rational thinking and eloquence.

  • @billjackson2863
    @billjackson2863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I only just discovered D. Dennett in the last few months. Good stuff.

  • @ericjohnson1811
    @ericjohnson1811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    What an elegant talk. Kudos!

  • @Nimuel
    @Nimuel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It amazes me how well this applies not only to religion, but to politics as well. And here you were thinking politics are not about religious institutions ;-)

    • @lorenyoung791
      @lorenyoung791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nimuel: Good point! Thinkers on religion from Hitch to Alan W. Watts correctly pointed out the fundamentally theocratic nature of the Stalin & Mao regimes. The personal adoration of Hitler, Mussolini & Trump are covert examples of the same. More explicit were the cults of Hirohito, & of the Russian tsars.

    • @tabularasa0606
      @tabularasa0606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do you think North Korea and China do not allow other religions? The state does not want any competition from them. The state is the only religion allowed and the leader is the prophet or god himself.

    • @1lightheaded
      @1lightheaded ปีที่แล้ว

      Region is Politics. They both manipulate people in a social and behavioural manner.

    • @tehspamgozehere
      @tehspamgozehere 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Politics: A way to direct or otherwise control a group of people.
      Relgion: A way to direct or otherwise control a group of people.
      The similarities far outweigh the differences, or so it seems to me. The main difference seems to be that one pushes the idea of the people, state or country. The other pushes the idea of a deity. One has slightly more existance than the other. That's about it.

  • @cjalisyas
    @cjalisyas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Dont believe
    “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
    Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)

    • @user-qc8vj3vp9v
      @user-qc8vj3vp9v 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🤗BUDDHÀ

    • @johanfijnvandraat9339
      @johanfijnvandraat9339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While it’s a nice quote, I just checked it and it’s not exactly what the Buddha said. The actual quote is as follows:
      “Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ - then you should enter & remain in them.”

    • @stoopidapples1596
      @stoopidapples1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This sounds like someone to quote to defend Hindu faith: “oh, you say I’m irrational? Well look at this one line! Clearly this proves I thought rationally about my faith.

    • @SStupendous
      @SStupendous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johanfijnvandraat9339 Someone almost entirely altering a quote! Unlikely! Lol. Great quote though

    • @SStupendous
      @SStupendous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stoopidapples1596 Someone got out of the wrong side of bed

  • @MsPinecone123
    @MsPinecone123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Reading The Four Horsemen. Hawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens. So glad I saw it live. So glad I have a daughter who teaches evolution at Yale, proud mom.

    • @Farsadelcatolicismo
      @Farsadelcatolicismo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      teaching lies with people's tax dollars isn't something to be proud of brother.

    • @calonstanni
      @calonstanni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for having a smart kid who's making a difference for the better!

    • @FakingANerve
      @FakingANerve 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Farsadelcatolicismo you must not know how private college education is funded, what evolution is, or even what "Ms." means.You're not off to a great start, "brother." 😘

  • @garyjohnson9037
    @garyjohnson9037 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you, Mr. Dennett! As usual our reasoning is in complete alignment. Peace!

  • @rosesandsongs21
    @rosesandsongs21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Reason is doing what's right no matter what you are told.
    Religion is doing what you are told no matter what's right.

    • @yougetagoldstar
      @yougetagoldstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Reason is actually reading the Bible and discovering why it's right, and then doing what's right no matter what you are told.

    • @rosesandsongs21
      @rosesandsongs21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "Surrendered people obey God's word, even if it doesn't make sense." -Pastor Rick Warren

    • @mrswimmyboy
      @mrswimmyboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Faith is believing things without evidence which don't make sense.

    • @zoki.to974
      @zoki.to974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrswimmyboy
      cultural thing. for you that has no sense, in other culture it has.
      you do realize that you believe in things without seeing evidence and just believe in them because someone said so? you never conducted any own research to confirm those claims, but you do believe in their words...
      take evolution for example, do you have evidence that man became from the ape? but you still believe in that. :)

    • @gabriellescouarnec8327
      @gabriellescouarnec8327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@zoki.to974 First: Evolution doesn't teach that "man became from the ape". Second: you're right saying that for many things I believe, I'm not able to redo the experiments or the researches. But when it comes to religion, NO ONE has ever been able to confirm any claim.

  • @douglasblowe805
    @douglasblowe805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up Christian as did my wife. At age 30, I left the church officially and became Wiccan/Pagan and she followed me. We let out 3 sons go to church with my sisters and with my wife's sister and since I had studied the Bible as a historical source and as a religious text, not to mention had studied about a great many other faiths and read the sacred books involved with those faiths. We gave our sons their own choice. My oldest became Pagan as well though of a different sect than my wife and I. Our two youngest are both severely mentally handicapped. The middle son cannot seem to grasp anything about religion so he is not interested in any religion but does ask me a lot of questions about beliefs and faith of many religions that he sees online. Our youngest is severely autistic, cannot speak and has the mind of a 2 yr old so he is happy in his own world and we let him be happy.
    As a history teacher in NC, I was discovered and fired for being a 'devil-worshipper' Legal in NC to do so. I fought it in court the 2nd time and the principal actually bragged to the judge that she was firing me for my beliefs, which btw no students had ever found out. I discussed religion in lessons where it affected the history we were studying. I won my case but it was a koral victory only- I was still fired and then black-balled from teaching because I fought the system in court and won. So my 2 Masters degrees are wasted (Education and Psychology) as my teaching awards.
    I agree we should teach about all religions or at least the most influential ones. When I was forced to teach about creation - because I also taught science classes some especially when other teachers did not wanna teach evolution and genetics, I would find out what cultural backgrounds of my students were and I would teach the creation myths from each of those religions. The students enjoyed it as did many parents.

  • @johnanderson3700
    @johnanderson3700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not only do I agree (and I am a priest in Christian faith) I would say we in religious community need to be in conversation with each other & expose ourselves to each other engaging each other’s tradition and broaden our spiritual landscape

    • @TheHydred
      @TheHydred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautifully said!

    • @johnanderson3700
      @johnanderson3700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Glenn Heston Thanks for your response. I appreciate your point. I still hope we can play a positive role in the lives of people and be part of the continuing evolution of huamn thought.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnanderson3700 So, y'ever learn yet why Satan was owed anything, post exile, or to keep any powers? And when any angel could ever impair other angels, like Eve did, unwittingly, ah, to humans?

    • @MLJohnsonian
      @MLJohnsonian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrissonofpear1384 Hey, y'ever figure out exactly how matter uses gravity to attract other matter? What's the mechanism there?

  • @princessolmeca2933
    @princessolmeca2933 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Christianity was the religion I grew up believing. Now as an atheist, I have more of an interest of studying it and educating myself about it. Religion is easier to approach when analyzing it from a detached, educational, unbiased perspective.

  • @mattiassollerman
    @mattiassollerman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I'm grateful I live in a country where I get to learn about the world religions in school.

    • @mattiassollerman
      @mattiassollerman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ***** One can't teach religion without teaching doctrinal issues, to some extent. Children should know about the noble eightfold path of buddhists, the five pillars of islam, the seven sacraments of catholicism, etc. I believe simply exposing children to this information is part of a good start, IAW _better than nothing_.
      In addition to that the history of some religions should be taught in greater depth. A christian should know about christianity becoming the majority religion in Rome under Constantine, the crusades, Luther and the reformation, etc.
      So that the next generation of teachers may not be as biased.

    • @mattiassollerman
      @mattiassollerman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** I agree completely

    • @kaufmanat1
      @kaufmanat1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ***** I agree with you guys... I'm even religious, and I have no qualms with educating the public about other religions. Information is power. You can't KNOW too much. You can INFER too much when you don't have all the information. However, when presented as just raw information, there's nothing wrong with teaching Facts.
      Problem though is its very difficult for many people to really discern fact from opinion. Don't interpret religious texts. Teach what the text says (by virtue of quotation), and be very careful with summarizing and generalizing. One can factually quote the Bible, it is almost impossible to factually teach what "Christianity" believes because just look at all the different sects of Christianity. It's insane. Protestant, Catholic, Episcopalian, evangelical, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, unitarian, 7th day adventist, Presbyterian... There's all those different subsets, then you go into one church belonging to one of those subsets, and you will find division within that single church regarding various interpretations about what "Christianity" teaches. To answer "what do Christians believe" is difficult to say the least.

    • @kaufmanat1
      @kaufmanat1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** there are verses that speak of violence for sure. However reading through the new testament, I at know point felt like it was conveying a hate induced message, but that was my experience reading the text. That's why I advocate teaching what the text says and little more than that regarding religious doctrine. You can teach religious history, but it should be taught under that pretense (for instance, the crusades are part of religious history, they happened, that's a fact, and to ignore something like that is wrong). Teaching they happened "because of religion" is a different statement though. Not a fact. A theory. Not saying it's wrong, but it is absolutely not a "fact". Thise things trip people up a lot.
      Also your last statement shows a fundamental difficulty with teaching religion through non religious teachers. Knowledge is not the original sin. Bible never states or implies that understanding the universe is wrong. In fact just the opposite. However an inaccurate interpretation of what the "tree of knowledge" was, and the act of eating from it was in direct defiance of God's command which is the definition of "sin", could falsely lead someone to believe that Christians believe knowledge is sinful which is completely baseless and untrue, and that's why we NEED accurate teaching of various world religions, to remove inaccuracies like that from public thought. Historically it was Christians who undertook the rise of Scientific thought, it was the political leaders of their day (who were also religious leaders as the church was a dominant political leader of the time) that sought to crush it. Another common example is that people say "scientists say the earth is millions if not billions of years old, but the Bible says it's only 6000 years old..." The Bible never says that anywhere, that's another interpretation based on a chronology of the family trees listed, and a view not Universally held (not even close). It's extremely difficult to teach people what Christians believe because you can get ten Christians reading the same passage from the Bible and get ten different interpretations. That's why I advocate for just teaching people what the Bible says, and treading very softly when teaching non religious people what it means, and if you do teach what it means, be sure not to present it as a fact, because it's not, it's an interpretation, or opinion.

    • @kaufmanat1
      @kaufmanat1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** definition of a theory: an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events. Arguing that religion caused the crusades (events) sounds a lot like an idea intending to explain an event. Chill out man.
      Also, people did not follow the crusades because "they read the Bible and saw that it was in there". Crusades started in the late 11th century. At that time it was purported that the average individual wasn't capable of understanding the Bible and required the help of religious leaders such as priests and the Pope. The Pete going on crusades did what the Pope told them to, not what they read in the Bible. The Catholic Church at the time functioning as much as a political institution as it was a religious one. I would say the crusades were instigated by politics more than religion and the people controlled by the religious leader, not their own conviction. Protestant reformation (Martin Luther and his 95 theses) didn't happened until hundreds of years after (and the definitely had its own fair share of problems, to be sure).
      Am I convinced that I'm 100 percent right? No, that's just my theory after trying to study the historical event and place it in context. You think it's an obvious explanation, but since when is history ever so obvious?
      Also, I'm not trying to fight here, you seem to be getting a little aggressive. Just a healthy exchange of ideas, that's all I want, otherwise this is just another silly TH-cam argument.

  • @2l84t
    @2l84t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    How many find this amusing ? The Ark Encounter is suing it's 5 insurers for refusing to cover damages a landslide, caused by heavy rains did to its access road.

    • @Amberscion
      @Amberscion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amusing if true. Source?

    • @undrcoverlouky
      @undrcoverlouky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Amberscion Christian Post, Washington Post, Louisville Courier-Journal, Lexington Herrold, Cincinnati Enquirer, CBS, Christian News Network, USA Today, News.co.uk, BBC...

    • @gabrieljaxon7164
      @gabrieljaxon7164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The irony.

    • @Amberscion
      @Amberscion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@undrcoverlouky It's really easy to rattle off a pile of news sources. That's not a source, however, any more than listing the continents is a source for the claim that continental drift occurs...
      A link to an article would be a source.

    • @undrcoverlouky
      @undrcoverlouky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Amberscion A.) I believe you are confused. A source is where you can obtain something. A source is not the product you're looking for specifically. B.) You're rude. Is Siri broken? You can verify it as I did.

  • @BeachsideHank
    @BeachsideHank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    *Sapient Wisdom:* I ask the religious; what would you do if you weren’t afraid?

    • @Gpacharlie
      @Gpacharlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BeachsideHank
      I am not afraid. Thus I will do as Jesus asks. Next question?

    • @BeachsideHank
      @BeachsideHank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Gpacharlie "Next question?" *Sapient Wisdom:* Why accept as honorable a God who impregnates a married woman with himself as her child?

    • @Gpacharlie
      @Gpacharlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BeachsideHank Because He is God. Because He is perfection.
      Next question?

    • @BeachsideHank
      @BeachsideHank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Gpacharlie "Next question?" *Sapient Wisdom:* So deformed children are God's perfect plan?

    • @Gpacharlie
      @Gpacharlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BeachsideHank They are now that we disobeyed and he had to go to plan B. Besides what is your definition of deformed and do you see them as having less value?

  • @steeltrap3800
    @steeltrap3800 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I like one of H L Mencken's takes on 'informed society' and democracy:
    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
    And here are a few more gems:
    The truth is that Christian theology, like every other theology, is not only opposed to the scientific spirit; it is also opposed to all other attempts at rational thinking. Not by accident does Genesis 3 make the father of knowledge a serpent - slimy, sneaking and abominable. Since the earliest days the church, as an organization, has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was the apologist for the divine right of kings.
    - H L Mencken, Treatise on the Gods
    Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt.
    - H L Mencken, from George Seldes, editor, The Great Quotations, quoted from James A Haught, editor, 2000 Years of Disbelief

    • @backwoods6050
      @backwoods6050 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Steeltrap. As a footnote to your HL Menchen quote - judging by the moron we now find in the White House, it looks like democracy has been perfected.

    • @lindataylor6831
      @lindataylor6831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The white house remark has now actually happened !

  • @Kaledrums
    @Kaledrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think it was hitchens who said, and I quote him very very loosely, "If god is the only reason you don't rape the women of your congregation that is truly evil." I'm trying to find the source now so please forgive me.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Just claim you came up with the quote"- Albert Einstein

    • @seldomgood
      @seldomgood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@88mphDrBrown its true he said that in a debate

    • @kevinmahoney5923
      @kevinmahoney5923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@88mphDrBrown I knew I could depend on you once again Al, for the right quote at the right time.

  • @jonhallquist3107
    @jonhallquist3107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Max Planck (lived from 1858 - to October 1947) the originator of modern quantum theories and one of the most important German physicists ever. During 19th and early 20th centuries, won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918.
    He said:
    "As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter,
    I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . .We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.”

  • @TOLupe-ty6jb
    @TOLupe-ty6jb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My parents thought they owned me, and it sux because I let them control me for far too long! Telling me what I can and can't do, after the age of 18. I finally got out of my mom's house last year, but I feel sooooo far behind in this life of mine😭It hurts so bad!!!!

    • @mikekulati7526
      @mikekulati7526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now you have the opportunity to live, learn and experience life yourself... Good luck!
      Remember to thank your parents when you have lived a little and grown up!!!

    • @1lightheaded
      @1lightheaded ปีที่แล้ว

      Get counselling . You are not the first to go through this .There are people who can help

  • @Exceltrainingvideos
    @Exceltrainingvideos 9 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    How did religion evolve? When was the first time people started talking about God and why? Dan Dennet makes a lot of sense!

    • @tyndaleisrael7822
      @tyndaleisrael7822 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      evolution is full of hoaxes and divide and conquer meme… those who cooperate best survive the best.
      this kind of theory is what allows the Stalin's and Hitlers of the world to rise…
      geniuses of history have always known there was a God...
      “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My mother taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”
      --Nikola Tesla
      "My worldly faculties are slipping away day by day Happy it is for all of us that the true good does not lie in them.
      As they ebb, may they leave us as little children, trusting in the Father of Mercies and accepting His unspeakable gift.
      I bow before Him who is Lord of all.”
      --Michael Faraday, on his death bed, one of the greatest experimental philosophers, Doctorate from Oxford University, holding 97 unsought for distinctions who discovered Electricity
      “This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being.”
      --Sir Isaac Newton, Principia, Book 3
      “I think in the first place that it is very pious to say and prudent to affirm that the Holy Bible can never speak untruth-whenever its true meaning is understood.”
      --Galileo (Letter to Grand Duchess of Tuscany)
      “The chief aim of all investigations of the external world should be to discover the rational order which has been imposed on it by God, and which he revealed to us in the language of mathematics.”
      --Kepler
      “All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”
      --Max Planck
      “When the answer is simple, God is answering.”
      “I am not an atheist, and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist.”[20]
      “Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is of the same kind as the intolerance of the religious fanatics and comes from the same source.”[21]
      "There is harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, yet there are people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me to support such views."
      “The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.”
      --Einstein
      “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
      --Dr. Fred Hoyle (scientist who coined the term "Big Bang" who was unafraid to go wherever the facts led him, and who consequently recanted his atheism.)
      Head of Human Genome Project, Dr. Francis Collins, converts to Christianity
      "I set out to prove that my atheist position was correct."
      “Since everything that is in motion must be moved by something, let us suppose there is a thing in motion which was moved by something else in motion, and that by something else, and so on. But this series cannot go on to infinity, so there must be some First Mover.”
      --Aristotle, “Physics”
      “One cannot be exposed to the law and order of the universe without concluding that there must be design and purpose behind it all... To be forced to believe only one conclusion--that everything in the universe happened by chance--would violate the very objectivity of science itself.”
      --Werner von Braun, Letter to CA State Board of Education, 9/14/72
      "The laws of nature produce no events, they state the pattern to which every event have only and can be induced to happen, must conform. Just as the rules of Arithmetic state the pattern to which all transactions of money, must conform, if only you can get a hold of any money. Thus in one sense the laws of nature cover the whole field of space and time. In another what they leave out is precisely the whole real universe. The incessant "
      "For every law says in the last resort: 'If you have A, then B."
      But first catch your A.
      The laws will not do it for you."
      --C.S.Lewis
      12 min
      “The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the Divine.”
      --Dr. Vera Kistiakowski, Prof. of Physics Emeritus, MIT
      “I stand in awe of God because of what He has done through his creation. Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God.”
      --Dr. James Tour, Nanoscientist, Rice Univ.
      “If physics is the product of design, the universe must have a purpose, and the evidence of modern physics suggests strongly to me that the purpose includes us.”
      Paul Davies, Superforce, (1984)
      “As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency--or rather, Agency--must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof for the existence of a Supreme Being?”
      --George Greenstein, Astrophysicist, The Symbiotic Universe (1988)
      “If everything in the universe came into being, then the cause of the universe must be transcendent, not a part of this universe,” Strauss argued. “Science kind of stumbled onto something that the Bible declared long ago … that the universe had a beginning.”
      --yt: Scientific Evidence for God - Dr. Strauss
      “If some god-like being could be given the opportunity to plan a sequence of events with the express purpose of duplicating our “Garden of Eden,” that being would face a formidable task...it is unlikely that the Earth could ever be truly duplicated.”
      --Peter Ward, Geologist & Donald Brownlee, Astronomer “Rare Earth” (2000)
      “It is my science that drove me to the conclusion that the world is much more complicated than science... It is only through the supernatural that I can understand the mystery of existence.”
      --Alan Sandage, Astronomer (Newsweek, 1998)
      “Where do you get information from?”
      Dr. John Lennox, Mathematics, Oxford Univ.
      “Natural selection reduces genetic information.”
      Dr. Marciej Giertych, Population Geneticist, EU
      youtube: The Case For A Creator With Lee Strobel
      yt: Latest Scientific Evidence for God's Existence - Hugh Ross, PhD
      yt: Young Earth - Young Universe
      yt: Scientific Evidence for God - Dr. Strauss

    • @ZenShroud1
      @ZenShroud1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tyndale Israel None of that means anything. >.

    • @doratheexploder286
      @doratheexploder286 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tyndale Israel
      Clearly you do not understand evolution. Get some books and read them(proper science books,even 5th grade level ones would do for you I think)

    • @tyndaleisrael7822
      @tyndaleisrael7822 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Odd jørgensen “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”
      Dr. James Shapiro, evolutionary microbiologist, Univ. of Chicago

    • @tyndaleisrael7822
      @tyndaleisrael7822 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yarpen800 It is interesting that scientists have analyzed the Creation story of the Bible and seen a scientific method embedded within it. Probably one reason so many scientists believe in God and have contributed so much.
      John Ray-Founder of Biology and Devout Christian
      Ray quoted experiments by Francesco Redi which contradicted spontaneous generation. Ray said that “My observation and affirmation is that there is no such thing in nature” and he referred to spontaneous generation as “the atheist’s fictitious and ridiculous account of the first production of mankind and other animals.”
      “He declared fossils were the petrified remains of extinct creatures. This was not accepted by biologists generally until a century later.”
      I am not religious, btw.
      Patrick Henry made a very clear statement: "It cannot be emphasized too often or too strongly that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians; not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ....It is for this reason that people of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity and freedom of worship here."
      “If you ask an American, who is his master? He will tell you he has none, nor any governor but Jesus Christ.”
      --Jonathan Trumbull, c. 1770; Faith of Our Fathers Newsletter Fall 2003, vol 1 Issue 11

  • @odertube
    @odertube 7 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    I know he's a member of the infamous 4 horsemen but I've never really listened to him. Time to search all his videos. :D

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Believers don't listen to anything.

    • @larrysbrain1627
      @larrysbrain1627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      same goes here ! Dennett is brilliant. I'm excited!

    • @andrewjebb8156
      @andrewjebb8156 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He's the least militant--and my favorite--of the four.

    • @cremedelacorn5356
      @cremedelacorn5356 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Andrew Jebb same!

    • @dogless10
      @dogless10 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A classic talk - thanx for posting.

  • @juless3568
    @juless3568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking foward to read the books of Daniel Dennett.

  • @Kings_New_Clothese
    @Kings_New_Clothese 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dan was one of my teachers at the LSE. Wonderful man.

  • @robind.phillips2129
    @robind.phillips2129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I learned some things that sparked my curiosity, in my art history class...at the age of 53.

  • @MarcErlich44
    @MarcErlich44 10 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    When Dennett starts reading quotes from Rick Warren's book, you can literally feel the silence and disgust in the room.

    • @murphy903
      @murphy903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I doubt it. Knowing Rich Warren, he probably found the whole discussion interesting and enlightening. Rick Warren is smarter than to take the bait. Atheists love to argue and debate.

    • @gadflyofrunescape6917
      @gadflyofrunescape6917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Michael Murphy yea, because argument and debate are very good ways of coming to, at the very least, an understanding of the opposition of your beliefs; and, at the most, can totally change your opponents mind. The real benefit is public argument and debate, because, since your opponents are versed enough in the subject to consider themselves worthy to seriously discus it, it’s safe to assume that they are pretty firmly set in their beliefs; but, the audience is a totally different matter. A public argument or debate can, depending on the platform and persuasiveness of the debaters, change plenty of undecided minds, changes some people’s entire perspective, and bring new life to the arguments previously used for your position. They are both very important parts of rational, civilized, discourse.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@murphy903 :
      I'm going to have to agree with Jared Bridge.
      Debates are important to bring forward the issues, they are a way to be made aware of issues, to be aware of the ideas.
      "Rick Warren is smarter than to take the bait"
      ==There is no bait. I don't know who Rick Warren is but he should be able to discuss his ideas like a human being.

    • @vaughnestrick6291
      @vaughnestrick6291 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Murphy n

    • @mickaymiller9622
      @mickaymiller9622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael Murphy Atheists love to argue and debate? No, but in the domination, at least by passive acceptance, of religion, an atheist may believe there’s need to show another view. Argument and debate seem civilized ways to be honest and true to oneself amid the hostility of organized religions.

  • @abirroy1333
    @abirroy1333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One must understand life to live it purposefully, in other words, only truth can us free
    Thank you soo much for your speech
    it was wonderful

  • @rorytennes8576
    @rorytennes8576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love to hear Dan speak.

  • @AshGeo
    @AshGeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At first I thought this guy is actually making a few good points about one of the best books I've ever read. But then at 22:00, he used two sentences from very different contexts to prove his point. This disappointed me
    "Surrendered people obey Cod's word even if it doesn't make sense". Pastor Rick says this in the chapter where he exhorts believers to surrender to God since it is the heart of worship. True, heartfelt worship will only come from a surrendered heart.
    "Don't ever argue with the devil. He's better at arguing than you are, having had thousands of years to practice" Now Pastor Rick makes this quote in an entirely different context. He used this to say that it's better to run from temptations than to reason with it.

    • @dimbulb23
      @dimbulb23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What you have missed is that you never surrender to God nor do you argue with the devil. What you do is you surrender to stories, in an old book. And you surrender to words of other human beings you interpret those stories in a way you like.. If you are honest with yourself, you know this is true. You have surrendered to Stories, mostly the stories of men dead for more than a thousand years. You cannot judge their honesty, their agenda nor their state of mental health. You are pretending that you know things about the world that you do not know. Others read other holy books and believe quite different things. Things you think are wrong. They too believe they have knowledge that they do not have.

    • @RealAmericanStar
      @RealAmericanStar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dimbulb23 you missed the point of the comment 🤦‍♂️

  • @StrikaAmaru
    @StrikaAmaru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    6:15 "Misinformed consent is worthless" Oooooh, what a painful statement, in light of Brexit.

    • @illigitimus5020
      @illigitimus5020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Elizabeta Macovei Yep, misinformed consent is what took us into that shambles in the 70’s

    • @Fletchlie
      @Fletchlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@illigitimus5020 👍

    • @jameswyatt1227
      @jameswyatt1227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could not agree more...the remainers definitely tried to lie to everyone. ..what a waste of there time..long live England. ..death to europe .

    • @DoberDudeProductions
      @DoberDudeProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jameswyatt1227, you're the very definition of a cretin.

  • @byronp2311
    @byronp2311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At 12, I decided to be baptisted. Pretty much, just to make mom happy. It was my decision. At 13, I renounced it all. I tried it; it did not work. I never looked back. But. I was always interested in why people tend to believe in fuckshit insane things. Sure, the bedrock of a religion may be workable. The practice often is horribly not. But it is worth knowing what those bedrocks are. People tend to forget them, much to our detriment.

  • @vadimpetker2689
    @vadimpetker2689 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I can tell you what is missing for development: I even made a scientific discovery about consciousness: All people do not notice that the head is always slightly tilted to the side of the leading hemisphere of the brain, and when the other hemisphere of the brain becomes dominant, the head changes the side tilt from right to left or vice versa. I noticed this when I invented a method for determining which hemisphere of the brain belongs to almost any opposite of any aspect, any field of science or aspect. I already know dozens of opposing differences that allow me to see how all types of sciences are connected by the fact that everywhere there is something that relates to the hemispheres of the brain.
    I can tell you a lot of new things that will allow you to win a Nobel Prize and become very useful.

  • @ndpenname
    @ndpenname 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this talk so much.

  • @luceret
    @luceret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ironically, I learned more about other religions in Catholic school than most kids learn in public school.

  • @savagetofu1
    @savagetofu1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Years ago, my college chemistry instructor taught me, that if your going to learn another religion, do so by someone of that faith.
    It might be difficult to take guitar lessons from a flute player…. (Although in some cases, I’m sure this’d work.)
    What a blessing it is to have fantastic teachers.

    • @1lightheaded
      @1lightheaded ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are going to take religious advise from a chemistry instructor .......

    • @savagetofu1
      @savagetofu1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1lightheaded My professors name is Dr. Angel. (No joke) 😬

    • @grossindecency
      @grossindecency ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Religious Education teacher was Christian. Personally, I think you should learn from someone NOT of a faith. My teacher was very disparaging of religions not his own.

    • @kahlesjf
      @kahlesjf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He should have told you to learn from those who teach you how to think, not how to believe.

  • @VaughanMcCue
    @VaughanMcCue 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for keeping his wisdom alive

  • @ArnesKlisura
    @ArnesKlisura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I like Daniel Dennet even if I am not atheist. I think he is the best from all 4 horseman of new atheism. He is honest and he says a few times that he "believes" certain things and he points to what he thinks is the problem without judging. The guy has a lot understanding and integrity, at least based on this talk.

    • @eddy2dend
      @eddy2dend 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are not an atheist then shut up.

    • @ArnesKlisura
      @ArnesKlisura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      eddy2dend if you are not a theist you should shut up :D

    • @eddy2dend
      @eddy2dend 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guys, of course, I would never lose in my dream world either. Bam!

    • @stephanesurprenant60
      @stephanesurprenant60 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dennett is a wonderful philosopher and he seems like the kind of individual with whom discussions can be very fruitful. because he really does listen to other people.

    • @atouloupas
      @atouloupas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Arnes Klisura Sorry man, just forgive this eddy2dend guy. I promise that there are a lot more logical and kind people in the atheist club. Well, at least if you join us ;)

  • @ShanOakley
    @ShanOakley 9 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I was indoctrinated into the Irish version of Catholicism right after birth. It's a guilt-driven version -- the Irish method. Now at age 45, I have been agnostic for near 20 years. Yet, I still at times feel guilty for abandoning nonsense for reason. But if I were to return to any sort of religion, I would feel like a hypocrite, for subscribing to evident nonsense. How grand it would be, to have never been brainwashed (in very much a sense) from the get-go.

    • @metaldude82
      @metaldude82 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try deism, pantheism, or any of the other varieties of non-atheism which are not based on any revealed scripture.

    • @KingElrosTarMinyatur
      @KingElrosTarMinyatur 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shan Oakley reddit.com/r/catholicism

    • @ShanOakley
      @ShanOakley 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KingElrosTarMinyatur Thanks!

    • @MrDorbel
      @MrDorbel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Adrienne Gurge Why define any version of god into existence? Why would a god that you have invented for yourself be superior to any other? You don't have to be an atheist, but the alternative is to select a god that will give you what? Nothing.

    • @MrDorbel
      @MrDorbel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *****
      Yes, but why have any concept of God at all? What purpose does it serve to have a concept of something for which there is no evidence whatsoever?

  • @freshturnips1693
    @freshturnips1693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s unfortunate that we may never have his proposal happen. We can’t even agree to teach our children basic historical events of our country.

  • @tofu_golem
    @tofu_golem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As the old saying goes, teaching a child one religion is indoctrination, teaching a child all religions is inoculation.

  • @MrAdryan1603
    @MrAdryan1603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What an amazing, brilliant man. You just can't deny this kind logic. LOVE it! Cheers

  • @ItsOElA
    @ItsOElA 8 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    how is he so calm when pointing out the BS in warrens book?

    • @HPGCHEMIST1
      @HPGCHEMIST1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because religions are for ignorant people !

    • @thiagowutzkeod2453
      @thiagowutzkeod2453 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ItsOElA
      Because he knows he's right. Wish i saw warren's face

    • @dashlamb9318
      @dashlamb9318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is "so calm" because one has to use drugs to counter the bullshit that Rick Warrren puts out. Bullshit that even he does not believe, if the truth were known.

    • @smileybubbles9894
      @smileybubbles9894 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HPGCHEMIST1 correct! Ignorant is not knowing so read the word and get educated and you won't be ignorant anymore

    • @andrewheffel928
      @andrewheffel928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I felt there was an undercurrent of well controlled rage in his voice. And understandably so, Rick stands for everything Dan hates.

  • @jerryhewes
    @jerryhewes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dan Dennett. If you want to know more consider the role of principles. What would happen should we identify and apply our Principles of Existence?

  • @alacrit6676
    @alacrit6676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an anecdote, being a kid, the only thing you heard was “I'm making the first communion because of the gifts” − That was South Spain, predominantly right-wing, 2005

  • @gromlek8327
    @gromlek8327 8 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    How can anyone think that keeping people ignorant of other
    faiths will keep theirs pure? The very idea of a belief or faith is to believe
    and/or have faith in your belief/faith. If your belief or faith in your
    religion is so weak that you fear knowledge of another religion, just how much
    faith or belief in your religion do you have? If you really want to convert
    others to your religion, go out and live well, and others will follow.

    • @blacksileighty2
      @blacksileighty2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely

    • @TechReviewTom
      @TechReviewTom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most serious religious people would not fear a proposal like this.

    • @landrewmackinnon4888
      @landrewmackinnon4888 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gromlek follow you even to poisoned koolaid.

    • @markrogers7546
      @markrogers7546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The faith of evolution and atheism is a perfect example of total ignorance!

    • @FarSeeker8
      @FarSeeker8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then why do Atheists keep fellow Atheists ignorant of Christianity?

  • @karlhansson1731
    @karlhansson1731 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First: brilliant!
    Second: my friend has a severe form OCD and is currently crying in the bathroom because of her sharing almost every idea mr. Denne discussest, but his beard is off center...

  • @chriss3625
    @chriss3625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have heard of Daniel Dennett frequently but I forget his eloquence... but I guess every time I listen to this I make a copy in my brain!

  • @GraduateMonkey
    @GraduateMonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:53'Democracy depends on informed citizenship, informed consent.' Priceless.
    This makes a lot of sense. This explains why bad things happen in democratic societies such as electing the wrong politician )

    • @stoopidapples1596
      @stoopidapples1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why democracy fails. Because the ruling class can just misinform it’s citizens and people won’t recognize it.

    • @Charlie-wl2qt
      @Charlie-wl2qt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. It's why(well, one of the reasons why.., it's a little more complicated) Socrates himself was opposed to Democracy. How can you expect uninformed, or misinformed, commoners to Democratically decide who should rule while being completely ignorant?

  • @janicemurphy7878
    @janicemurphy7878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He looks a little like David Letterman's older brother both of them were smart but in different ways

  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS 9 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I look forward to the day when bookstores & libraries label a new section for books 'Religion & other fiction'.

    • @19Prometheus89
      @19Prometheus89 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They dont need to do it where i live. I just go around putting them in the fiction section for them. Saves them the task.
      (PS: i will pre-empt the possible tirade by stating i was kidding. I have never done the above.)

    • @politicsequalsgarbag
      @politicsequalsgarbag 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is, it's called "fantasy"

    • @19Prometheus89
      @19Prometheus89 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Wendt There has never been any real point where i live. Here you are likely to get thrown out and banned (Kinda need access to that bookstore. We only have the one). And it would not suprise me if they tried to involve the police. As funny as the idea has always been to me. It would only ever be an exercise in futility.

    • @19Prometheus89
      @19Prometheus89 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Wendt
      Hahaha! Now that does sound like it would be a good one to try. Got to practice my serious face, for added comic effect. :)

    • @19Prometheus89
      @19Prometheus89 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jay Wendt
      Think i heard about that. It was Walmart, i think.
      I cant really speak for the US, as i am British, but it is odd that in a supposed secular country the bible is practically forced on you. I actually took the bible down to the reception desk once (I was in a bad mood) and told them i found it offensive. Its policy apparently, so i was told. Anyway, i got a free night out of it. (No kidding) In the UK religion is a tense subject. Most people are very PC about it. And yet, the bible and Christianity is still pushed on us.

  • @isthisshit4real
    @isthisshit4real 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took a world religion course in college, so did my brother. We both independently decided to take the courses at different colleges. He is older than I am. We grew up in a home that was warm, loving, intellectually stimulating, and NOT focused on religion. We did go to church a few times when we were young, then stopped when we got older and too busy. Our parents encouraged us to select our own religion when we became adults.
    My brother and I are both non-denominational Christians. I think we were both heavily influenced by the woman who took care of us when we were children - she was there when we came home after school or if our parents went out for the night. She was much more than a "babysitter." She was older than out parents. She was the kindest and most devout woman I've ever met. Her living spirit was so beautiful. I NEVER, EVER saw her angry at another person. She was my comfort AND my protector when I was a shy, vulnerable child. She chased away ANYONE who bothered me. She glowed with her love of God. If that isn't inspiring, I'm not sure what is.

    • @onedaya_martian1238
      @onedaya_martian1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know a Muslim lady in Egypt who was the same. Should I believe in Allah ?

  • @publicopinion3596
    @publicopinion3596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think also the keys to culture is language and the environmental adaptation and ethics of that group

  • @enigma7070
    @enigma7070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I could listen to Dennett all day long. He's a rare voice of reason.

  • @rogerfroud300
    @rogerfroud300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    There's one huge element missing in Dan's proposal about the teaching of Religion in schools.He doesn't even mention the fastest growing single group, and that's those without any Religious belief. Secular values and attitudes towards Religion will ultimately be the dominant force shaping society. That's because information is readily available on the internet, and information is the enemy of Religion.
    He's remarkably generous towards Rick Warren, who by most people's standards is certainly a Creationist and the enemy of truth. Dan is clever in not turning off the Religious in the audience, who in the USA are bound to be largely Christian. Hopefully they made it to the end without turning off.

    • @iseegood5609
      @iseegood5609 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Information is not an enemy of faith in God but it is an enemy of hypocrisy and many traditions. Wisdom is the proper timing and application of information.

    • @iseegood5609
      @iseegood5609 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He talks about sheep. Have you read "Treasures in The Book of Job" that book has a very interesting take on animal domestication.

    • @jonnie106
      @jonnie106 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Information is the enemy of specific faith because amassed factual information provides reason and proof to either maintain the faith, shift it elsewhere or drop it entirely. Thus the reason why religious schools acknowledge the existence of other religions but they give very little information (if any at all) for learning about those other religions. Ties into Dan's general point.

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would certainly be important that Atheism, particularly militant Atheism, be included in the religions presented. It seems to me that the overall histories and factual outcomes of them (not accusing or defending) would be important to present as well so that the students have some idea of what they achieve, e.g., the religion's representation in the belief systems of world leaders, nations, groups, actions that have resulted, etc. For a student to best understand Islam, for example, It is much more instructive to understand the philosophy and average condition of life, freedoms, peace, standards of justice, etc., that have derived from the practice of its tenets in devout Islamic societies like Saudi Arabia than it is to have the tenets presented without any idea of their practical outcomes.

    • @rogerfroud300
      @rogerfroud300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Reflected Miles Militant Atheism is not a Religion. It isn't organised along Religious grounds with Churches and congregations and it isn't founded on faith.
      There's no reason why Secular viewpoints can't be included in the class discussion, but they most certainly should not be listed alongside the different faiths because those views are not a Religion.
      I certainly agree that the outcomes of the various faiths ought to be taught, this is important. The way it distorts government policy throughout the world needs to be explored. For example, how it's all but impossible for an Atheist to be elected in the USA. The Middle Eastern countries, and groups such as ISIS and the Taliban should also be examined when it comes to how they have turned countries into rubble.
      Another outcome is the catastrophic effect that Islam has had on the Muslim scientific community which, for all practical purposes, has collapsed.

  • @aljoschalong625
    @aljoschalong625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I also thought the proposition to be hilarious. Not ridiculous, just the oposite: I think the proposition is great. I find it hilarious to think about the likely outcome, if it could be installed: So many parents would be so disappointed that their children turn out to be atheists after having heard of all the different fantasy tales.

    • @benjamingilley9629
      @benjamingilley9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine if they did that for evolution too.
      Imagine if they actually had to be honest about what they actually know and what they believe to be based on faith.
      It’s the biggest cult in modern history by a long shot.

    • @aljoschalong625
      @aljoschalong625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjamingilley9629 I know, you live in America. But still: Information is not so hard to come by. You shouldn't brag about you utter lack of education, it makes you look like an idiot.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweden has many years of religious studies for (almost) all elementary & high school students since the 60s.
    In 1997 they became mandatory for all children (previously one could get an exception).

  • @kurtisdaroule8245
    @kurtisdaroule8245 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love this guy.

  • @Me-wk3ix
    @Me-wk3ix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You know, he really does kind of have a point. I feel like if we understood where other people are coming from, we could foster more understanding. I don't think there is a case for ignorance being bliss.

  • @bobbart4198
    @bobbart4198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... I took an elective High school course in " World Religion " in 1970, in the Canadian Public School System. It was a good class and eye opening.
    It was taught in an open and non-biased fashion and, far from damaging me in any way, I think it did me a great deal of good.

  • @willstorm8331
    @willstorm8331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I haven't met one minister that learned anything about comparitive theology after numerous conversations. That in itself is a key indicator that those who study the area the knowledge given is cut down and carefully purged to induct a person into only a very small p0rtion of a vast body of study. They will only ever know how to practice their brand without question, and that is a major indictment of religion as a whole.

    • @erict.watson2460
      @erict.watson2460 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have - you must've encountered less well informed and intentioned preachers on your travels. I do agree, however, that yours are sadly probably more typical of the experiences of others.

    • @JOLchurch
      @JOLchurch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erict.watson2460 I am a minister who reads widely. Sam Harris's podcast is one of my "don't miss" inputs every week. But many of my colleagues don't take any time to learn outside our denomination (with the exception of the one comparative religions of the world class that was required in my seminary).

    • @erict.watson2460
      @erict.watson2460 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JOLchurch sad isn't it?

  • @stevenunua2118
    @stevenunua2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Knowing Truth will "make" you free is the quote. NOT knowing Truth enslaves you. NOT knowing is the foundation of belief the foundation of imaginary gawds and religions.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shawn Steuer
      No one. Truth does not exist in universal reality. Learning what Truth IN Reality is the quest of each person. A perfect Truth is a perfect realization of Reality.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BELIEF and the BELIEF SYSTEM
      My primary research is a study to elucidate: WHAT IS “belief” and the “belief system?” What is their duality? What “good or bad” has been and is connected to the belief system?
      Most people believe that Truth and Reality are conceptual. This means most people invent in their brain what Truth and Reality is...and then “believe” what they invented is real.
      My goal has been to deprogram and retrain my brain to function without: opinion, bias, preconceived ideas, indoctrinated education AND to eliminate beliefs and disbelief from my analogies. Obviously a daunting task.
      I consider the evolution of “intellect” just as important as developing “intelligence.” Intellect is the thinking process that has all the tools of discernment that SHOULD be used when working to learn or realize anything as Truth IN Reality. And most certainly applied before belief or disbelief are invoked.
      The danger I have experienced and see in our humanity...is that belief and disbelief are a form of “certainty” that closes the mind and brain to intellect discerment.
      I try to steer away from any discussion of the “symptoms” of belief in this study because they always become to emotional and adversarial. However, I do also work to define what the “symptoms” of belief (cause and effect) are and what part does belief play in mankind’s history, personal life, society at large, the world population and governments?
      So, because this is an ongoing study, I can NOT claim to have any definitive answers. So instead...I offer a few statements to open a dialogue and critical thinking, that hopefully I will use to help further my study. The question is...is there any truth, validity or interesting insight to the following statements?
      1. People believe that Truth and Reality are conceptual. This is saying we invent in our heads what they are and then believe what we invent is Truth and Reality. Authoritarians spin pure fantasy as Truth and Reality and force with physical and mental stratagem...the fantasy “belief system” onto people. Believing that a fantasy is Reality creates huge cognitive dissidence because the brain knows better and is in a constant state of confusion when forced to believe fantasy is Reality. When a person stops believing...the universe of Reality becomes clear and the real work of developing my/our Truth of Reality begins. A brain free of beliefs begins to discovers/realizes what real Truth and Reality is.
      2. Learning how to think and discover with a mind free of opinion, bias, preconceived ideas and beliefs...with a truly open mind, willing to do the task of intellect discernment, is daunting and truly impossible for most people because they simply have never been shown how and most are stuck in the indoctrinated world of choosing belief or disbelief as their only options.
      3. The psychology of belief is that once a person invokes/commits their brain to the belief...it closes the mind to dialectic intellect discernment, logic and reason. Any attempt to change the belief is repelled with anger, rage even physical harm. Belief is a horrifically dangerous mental tool that is used without a full understanding of its dangerous potential. And it is not yet being recognized for the 5000 years of insanity it has wrought on mankind.
      4. When belief and disbelief are taken out of the equation...the universe begins to reveal itself to you. Most people cannot fathom NOT having beliefs...even though it is obvious that beliefs are what has been and IS controlling us. We are protecting our “belief system” abuser...this is a form of Stockholm syndrome insanity.
      5. My use of big T and R. I try to separate mans invented truth and reality from what I call “real” Truth IN Reality. Truth does not exist in the universe so a search for it is futile. Reality...IS...the universe and what we learn of it becomes our personal Truth. Truth exists inside each of us. A “perfect” Truth or knowing of Reality...would be a perfect realization of the universe Reality. I think we have a long way to go to get to a perfect Truth of Reality level. But it is a MOST admirable and desirable quest...which epitomizes my study and research.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reality IS the universe. Truth exists in your head just as beliefs do. So do we consider thoughts and emotions part of the universe or Reality? Are Truth and beliefs actually real? This is up to each individual to decipher for themselves.

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When somebody asks "Who" designed such and such an animal, it is a leading question and you have to know that their answer will always be God or Intelligent Design.

    • @GPCster
      @GPCster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paleontologists speaking to lay audiences make that mistake all the time. Such-and-so is "designed" for grasping, etc.

  • @gyozakeynsianism
    @gyozakeynsianism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan Dennett's really smart, and I think smarter than people appreciate.
    This isn't just about religion. How many times have we come across people who will simply not listen to contrary opinions because "the devil" is so wily and cunning?

  • @aliceputt3133
    @aliceputt3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was interested in going to Chuch as a child. When I got old my Father said try them all out before choosing. They all are valuable in some ways but every one has something stupid that they do and you need to see if you can put up with them. So I attended every Church in Santa Monica. Then I took Comparative Religion at UCLA. I’m still looking. It’s been most interesting. I totally agree with you.

  • @PBAmygdala2021
    @PBAmygdala2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Religious adherence is expression of the right amygdala in the limbic region of the brain: threat detection, fear, group loyalty, and submission to authority figures.

  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally someone who addresses the evolutionary origins of religions. He needs to elaborate on that _much_ more.

  • @Valet101
    @Valet101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Daniel Dennett very informative. Just need what does it mean 4:14

  • @ebob4177
    @ebob4177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This guy looked +60 but his brain was so quick. No pausing. I feel so slow. 😌

  • @mellosays
    @mellosays 8 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    He has a strong point. Religion has been the basis of culture throughout our history. Decisions were usually made, and still are in certain circumstances, based on religion. Therefore, since it's such an important element of our history, it should be taught in schools from the historical point of view. But I believe we don't need religion to be the basis of cultures anymore. Reason and sciences should take over this space. And I'd go further by saying that children should not be brain washed with any creed whatsoever. Why grow believing in a particular religion? What right does a parent have in inculcating a bunch of lies into his/her child's brain? Our awkward, religious history should be part of only the past and we should move forward learning, pursuing many other and more interesting, useful studies of things that actually exist.

    • @TorianTammas
      @TorianTammas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +cHRISmERRITTmUSIC The problem here is that some strands of monotheism become fundamentalistic and make truth claims about the universe and others. As they take literal what is at best an allegory they close their eyes and mind from reality. They claim stories about a god are true instead of accepting that followers produced fan fiction to express their believe in this god.

    • @differous01
      @differous01 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Caramelo ~ Religion is part of history, and also part of the history of philosophy. I was rather surprised, after school, to learn that the ancient Greeks had ideas of
      atoms (Democritus),
      evolution (Anaximander, Empedocles),
      the spherical shape of the earth (Eratosthenes)
      and of secular, constitutional politics (Aristotle).

    • @mellosays
      @mellosays 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +differous01 In fact, our society would be much more advanced if it weren't for the loss of most studies done and documented by the Greeks. We've had to relearn and rediscover so many things that had already been found before, not to mention that we probably have not rediscovered much that is lost. Now, I hope you also learned in school of what caused the loss of such enormous collection of knowledge that came from the Greeks and other advanced societies of the time: the all powerful Catholic Church. The Church started by burning down the Library of Alexandria where most discoveries were stored in scrolls of papyrus. And we all know the rest of the history of persecution by the Church and the many intellectuals the institution assassinated. Imagine how the world would be today if during documented human history there had been no religion to thwart human curiosity and quest for knowledge. I think it would be much, much better because we wouldn't be so much immersed in long lasting impenetrable ignorance that religious bigots created for us throughout the centuries.

    • @differous01
      @differous01 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caramelo What caused the loss of such enormous collection of knowledge was not the Catholic Church per ce, but the influence of Plato's Republic, as incorporated into Christianity by the likes of St Augustine (his 'City of God').
      Platonism hinges upon a superstitious belief in 'Forms' and in inductive reasoning from those pre-supposed moral entities.
      It became necessary, as Plato advised, to suppress teaching which relied on deductive reasoning.
      The closing of the School of Athens resulted in the works of Aristotle disappearing from the scriptoria of Europe and appearing in Persia.
      Here they flourished until 1100 when one Al-Ghazili did the same thing the Catholic Neo-Platonists did; breaking the link of cause and effect (in his work 'Incoherence of the Philosophers').
      This ended Islam's Golden Age but sparked Europe's Renaissance (re-birth); Ibn-Rushd's commentaries on Aristotle, rescued from the fall of Cordoba, formed the basis for Aquinas's 'City of God', and England's Magna Carta.
      Separation of religion and state only became reality with the Founding Fathers of the US, but we have Ibn-Rushd to thank for preserving that ancient Greek notion.

    • @ksan1648
      @ksan1648 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Caramelo
      "Reason and sciences should take over this space," or in other words, another de facto religion. All culture within a 'civilized' context is brainwashing.

  • @amrw7863
    @amrw7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Somewhere down there between petunia and carrot" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jamiegladwin
    @jamiegladwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the UK it's called Religious Education (R.E) and it's been taught in public schools for many years. It's similar to a history class.

  • @logans.butler285
    @logans.butler285 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gone, but never forgotten. I will always regard him as one of the greatest atheist philosophers of our time. Rest in Peace good man 😞