Grouting Tile: With a Pre Mixed Grout
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- We are back with another how to video, this time we will be going over the best tips for grouting tile with a pre mixed grout. Using bagged grout compared to a pre mixed grout requires a few different tricks to ensure that you are not struggling once completed. Watch the full video to make sure you don't make the same mistakes I did when I first started using pre mixed grout!!! Let me know what you guys think in the comments and Happy New Year!
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I specifically looked up "grout tutorials done by women"
I'm so incredibly glad that I did as exactly what I suspected happened...you explain it so clear and with just enough details and explanation... perfect. Thank you so much for making this.
You're very welcome! I'm glad I was able to help you on your tiling journey
Two buckets is a really good idea. I have been doing it for a while now. Saves a ton of time. Keeps things clean.
Also yes, mixed grout is terrible now. Horrible color consistency, especially with darker colors. Pre-mixed is a pain to work with but I agree the color consistency alone is worth the trouble.
I came for the grout and left with life lessons. Thank you.
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I’ve been watching loads of videos to find out what you should do with corners/change of planes and someone has finally made it clear! 👌👍
Excellent video! Good communication, clear instructions. Very much appreciated the direct illustrations! Thanks very much for posting.
This is the most informative video I have seen you do, and I have probably watched about 30-40 of your videos.
I also want to thank you for your humility in your "learning all the time" statement.
Thank You Again
Thank you Tim appreciate the support
Thanks for the video and tips.. am about to do my very first grouting job on a 3.5 sqft tiled area (yes, i tiled it myself) in front of our fireplace, and really needed the tips on how to grout with a pre-mix grout!! Much appreciated!
You are the best for beginners, thanks for the great tips!
I just started doing a shower refresh... only removed some of the grout as there were sections that I couldn't get the mold out of. Otherwise the tile and grout is in good shape. I started with the premix and was frustrated with how much was not getting into the grout lines. None of the videos I watched used premixed grout so I presumed it was the grout that was problematic but now I see what the issue is... this was helpful and now I can go back and finish the job with your advice. thanks!
I’ve watched tons of video and yours is the ONLY one that is simple and sincere not from Ego but from a place of heart.Subscribed today !
Thank you! I'm glad this video was able to help you!
Thanks for your great videos. I was a tile setter with Brick layers and Allied Craftsman for 20 years. I've been out of the business for 30 years though. Just did a laundry room floor in my house using products that weren't available 20 - 30 years ago. Used Ditra Ultra (oh man that eats the thinset). Now switching to pre mixed grout based on this one. I'm learning new products and techniques from your videos. Thanks!
Thank you for this content! I just watched it before I did the grout in my powder room. The two buckets idea was a lifesaver!
Thanks for the tip about silicone in the corners. I have done three DYI showers and never heard that.
Just wanted to say this video was awesome. I watched it like 5 times before grouting my backsplash with flexcolor cq. The only video I saw with the 2 bucket concept and you absolutely nailed it. I don't normally leave comments but had to say you rocked it with this one. Thank you! My backsplash came out perfect.
Thanks Kyle glad that we could help you!
Thanks for this video. I watched several tile videos and I liked yours the best.
Thank you - very informative for me - never grouted before.
I used bag mix grout today, I wanted to cry. It was such a dumb “baker” situation. The first time I tiled I used pre mixed, and it was a shit show, but overall outcome looked way better than todays grout mix bag. With your tips on using pre mix, I think it’ll go better next time I use pre mix. I learned a lot from your video that I definitley did not do that time.
Thanks for your insight, tackling this today.
You're welcome! I hope your project went !
Great video, Love your attention to the corner rules for silicone vs grouting!
It's an important step a lot of people miss then wonder why their inside corners are cracking when filled with grout!
Great advice. Thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge
My pleasure!
Great video! Good breakdown of premix for people who are hesitant to use it
Glad you liked it
I’ve been doing this over 20 years….just gotta say I agree with everything you say, great video. I’m impressed with your videos, your craftsmanship and attitude. I liked hearing you say that your always learning, great mindset and needed with new products coming out. Thanks and happy grouting!
Thanks for watching Alan!
Your Cool, have ? Can you silicone and then add the the smoky grey caulk afterwards kind of the double whammy effect, I use Dynaflex 230 something I learned from another you tube tiler/carpentar, just finished cleaning and ready to grout and I use the premix hate getting dirty lol, keep up the videos much appreciated!!!
I like your TED talk.
Shannon thank you for the tips! My first time! Spectralock 1. And I used the short end of the float too! And.. your two bucket system worked great! ,zero haze . You throw k and I am subscribin! 😊
Jeff
Great tips, thank you!!!
Spectralock 1 is the BEST! Love that stuff.
Agreed!
Beauty video. Well spoken. I have only used Flexcolour CQ for premix. Cleaning grout lines is brutal. Just cleaned floor to ceiling 4x8 tile in a shower base install... Death! I was decently tidy with the thinset but ugh.
I just got schooled. Thank you! I'm using Spectralock 1 tomorrow, wanted to get some knowledge. THANK YOU FOR SHARING
You're very welcome!!
Very helpful! Thank you!
Thanks for the great demo! Your demo encouraged me to just do it already. I got my shower grouted and have NO grout haze thanks to your tips!!🥰
Helpful info - thanks!
Nice lesson; thank you
Thanks, I'm going to try this.
Good luck!
Shannon, great instructional video especially your two bucket wash method. You've reinforced my decision on using Spectralock 1 for the grout. I'm converting a bath to shower and will be putting in at least one gran bar, do you have any insight or a video for the best way through a porcelain wall? Thanks
Thank you sister, your video was a big help to me.
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Thank you so much for this video!
Hi Shannon! So glad to have found your video. I am just starting to put on my grout and the timing couldn't be any better. Back to the store with the powder and looking for the pre-mix. All of this with great nails too! Wish I would have found this channel earlier. Enjoy your craft and subway looks good from here.
Thanks Judy! Hope your project came out awesome!
@That Tile Chick Wellll... it's a good start . Too much lipage in parts, even using the clip system. Backbuttering like it was jam. Lol
I watched a bunch of grouting videos before tackling my shower. Not one of the ones I watched said "if you're using ready mixed grout, you need a different method". I learned the hard way that it doesn't spread easily, and does not come off easily. I took a break mid way through a short wall and looked up ready mixed grout videos because I had that nagging feeling something was off. You could have heard me curse and jump out of the chair almost flinging my coffee when you said "whatever you do, don't let it dry"...yep...Anyway...that was one wall and I learned the hard way, but now I'm ready to tackle the rest the right way :) Thank you for your video!!
You're very welcome, unfortunately the hard way is the way most people learn, I've been there myself!
Love your videos and I'm just learning how to tile. but also, I need to know where you get your shorts. Big Fan!
This video helped me so much! I hired someone to do my bathroom...and 3 months later my grout is washing away and crumbling...now I am redoing it myself. The contractor blamed it on bad grout...not mixing it correctly was the problem!
Best chainsaw repair vid I've seen yet! I'll probably watch another 15 or 16 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything...
Growing on me Tile Chick! thumbs up.
That’s a neat sponge
Your adorable! 😂 Not in a weird way, 😜just watched your video because I am using the ready-made grout for the first time and am glad that I did because I wouldn’t have known to use a different method so thank you so much!
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Good job 👍🏼
Thank you
Thank you very much !
I feel confident now to use a premixed grout.
Just a caveat: NOT all green scrub pads are the same! Some are impregnated with a grit which will definitely scratch your Shiney tiles.
Choose Carefully, or use a white scrub pad.
Respect 👊
I would totally love to learn this trade in person by you! Women empowerment! Awesome stuff
I enjoyed your TED talk lol
Tile and grout look great!
Haha thank you! And thank you 👏🏻👏🏻
It's a good grout, pretty ez to use
Great work!
Could a person seal the tile before you grout?
Thanx great tips ! I’m going to use Mapei flex color cq premix for 1/8 joint 3x6 ceramic subway backsplash will it scratch my datile Home Depot tiles ?
Great video. I didn't even know that there was a PU based pre-mixed grout so you taught me something new. Is it water proof like epoxy?
This was such a great video-i just wish I had watched this prior to me attempting to regrout the shower this weekend!
I had to take a razor blade to the tiles because I let it dry!
Water doesn’t break through this very well does it? We had a shower leak years ago and had the shower regrouted. I went to patch some cracks this weekend and am hoping it holds well
Wish i saw this prior to using Mepei Flexcolor CQ for a backslash install. The install was fine and the color consistency was great but cleaning was painful. I applied and cleaned in small areas every 2-3 minutes but the hazing was bad. Took me an extra 1-2 days just cleaning the haze left off the tiles and some countertop areas. Also, I think those sticky quartz beads in the grout scratched my glazed ceramic tiles - luckily its not easily noticeable. Does spectralite grout use abrasive materials that could scratch polished tiles?
Great info! I just used Mapei KeraColor and was unhappy with the variation in shades. Their picture-only instructions on the bag didn’t help much since they lacked any details about the process. Will go with the added cost of pre-mixed grout from now on.
To me its worth the price of admission not having to worry about watering the grout out too much, color variations or bad batches of powder.
Great video. I’m doing this in my bathroom now. Might be a stupid question, but do you grout the top of tile where it meets ceiling and bottom where it meets tub/shower or just use caulking like the corners?
Thanks! Is it okay to apply grout down between the floor of a shower and wall to fill large gaps prior to caulking?
I use the short side of the float too. I'm a big strong guy, but with that Flexcolour it falls of the float first of all and also won't flow into the lines. I want to make sure the grout lines are completely full.
Excellent advice. Thank you!
I wish I had watched this before I grouted the white 12x24 shower tiles with Silicone ... it's a mess. I'm trying to cover my imperfect grout job.
What brand did you use?
@@ThatTileChick I used (3) Grout Commercial 100% Silicone Sealant 381 Bright White. I am cleaning up the wavy white porcelain shower tile surface again. Then, I will use a plastic putty knife to smooth and level a new application of white Fast Dry Caulk Plus Silicone White. Since this is my first shower tile project I need all the help I can get.
In the Master Bathroom floor I am putting in 8x8 encaustic tile, and your video on putting up this tile is very helpful!
Thanks!
11:38 strong point!
ty for the video i am a fan of CQ use it often
Mapei Flexcolor CQ is a great product as well!
That's all I have had access to in BC Canada. Latacrete isn't available around here sadly
@@Matt-my7pz yea i think i am switching to Spectralock 1
@@PeterYurkins have you used them both? What's does spectalock have for qualities and compare to Flexcolour
@@Matt-my7pz All laticrete products are available at Centanni tile in Burnaby
I used mapei premixed for the first time the other day and didnt know about the haze not coming off so easy like regular grout, had to scrub all the tile. Wish I had seen this a few days earlier 😅
We all have learned the hard way at some point =)
I wish I'd seen this video a few weeks ago! I might have tried tackling this myself. Is there any scenario in which the thin-set, mesh tape, and aquadefense would extend 2-3 inches PAST the tile onto the finished wall? I ask because that's how my shower was tiled, and the tilers are telling me to skim the area with joint compound and paint it. However, the drywall was newly installed and painted days before they started. I'm not sure if there was a reason to do it like this, or if the tilers just misjudged how far they planned to bring the tile and I should be asking them to fix it..
Going to try fusion pro for the 1st time
Schannon, What do you think of Polyblend pre-mixed grout?
Have you used grout guns (similar to caulking guns) to apply the grout? I found many on Amazon and some of them were interesting.
So I tiled around an American Standard Ovation fiberglass shower. I understand you said gout in the corners were the tile meets, should I also grout at the ceiling(tile goes up to ceiling) and also were the tile meets the fiberglass walls?
I have just completed tiling a fireplace surround. Some of the edge tiles abut the wooden mantel or the painted walls. Should I mask the grout lines of those tiles with blue painter's tape or something else? Is there any way to work more meticulously where the grout lines meet wood or wallboard so the white grout doesn't smear against the wood or paint?
Do you ever use grout release? I’m wondering if that might make it easier for people who have never grouted…or maybe with your tips it’s not necessary?
Hey, great info, thank you! Once you open the grout bucket, can it be re-sealed and used later? Kind of a dump question but I have only ever used mixed grout (kiesel) that has to be used fairly quick.
*dumb
How do you feel about using epoxy grout to lay tile/grout over an old fiberglass shower pan?
Would you still recommend this grout for floor tiles that have been installed on a wooden floor? Ie there is some movement between the tiles when walked on.
is the transition between tile and tube considered a change of plane? the sanded grout that was used to fill the almost 1 inch (at the most) gap between tub and tile is molding, cracking away from the tub and some is cracking off.
How long do you have to wait until you silicone the corners with this grout? Great video, thanks!
I would wait at least 24-36 hours, depending on humidity and temperature.
Is this a sanded or unsanded?
I’m in the process of grouting a very glazed 2.5x 10”. Will Spectra scratch the tile? It’s a tub surround walls.
You didn’t mention sealing it. Do you seal after the process?
Tried using the link to your tools. Getting 'Sorry we couldn't find that page.' I am interested in your tools and materials.
We're from Jersey... we don't pump our gas, we pump our fists!!! And... we move our hands A LOT when we talk LOL!!! Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. RESPECT for educating & sharing knowledge. That tile is really dope guys. Hoping all is well, Dirty Jersey out!!
What tile is that and where is it from? Thanks.
Where do I find NC standards for tiling
How do you feel about Styrofoam shower pans
Have you had any drying or after drying issues with over wetting the tile or float during the premix grout application?
I tend to use a little extra moisture to help the premix grout application go a bit smoother, especially with Flexcolor CQ.
No issues here with the Spectralok 1. The only issue I have seen is that if you saturate the joints the grout wants to pop out of the joints. In that case we dry out the joint as best as we can and then fill as needed.
Great video loaded with very helpful information. I have a quick question. I am grouting a shower floor 2"x2" porcelain tiles, I was going to use Fusion pro premix grout from Custom Building Products that doesn't need to be sealed or Simple Grout from same company that needs to be sealed afterwards. The Fusion Pro is twice the cost so just wondering what you would advise?
We always er on the side of caution with grouts and use the stronger (and usually more expensive product) for our installations.
@@ThatTileChick Thanks, I am going to grab the better product. 🍺🍻🍺 CHEERS!!!
Great job. Love the two bucket tip. How long can the grout stay ready to use in the bucket ?
That's a good question. I cant find the information on that anywhere. It does say on the data sheet that the shelf life of the factory sealed product is 1.5yrs. But nothing about being open and in use. I would just be careful it doesn't skim over. I work slow and its never happened to me.
2 bucket method - I do the same thing! Great tip.
@@ThatTileChick I do a lot of samples and push this time frame and often, but 6 months would be my rule of thumb. The key is to have the barrier card down on the grout and lid sealed.
This is also a phenomenal idea.. saves from constant trips of new water.
I wish I had known about caulking plane changes- I'm currently digging out cracked grout where a contractor did not do this and the grout between the floor and outside wall has cracked in just a few months (very cold climate) and no, I'm not going to make the contractor do it. When he fixes mistakes things ususally get worse.
Im using this premix and did the normal routine grouting and wiping down but it looks like this brownish grout had stained my tile. How do i clean that up?
Laticrete says many things about this stuff, that it was in development over a decade, that it’s their biggest advancement in grouting in the last 20 years, that everywhere you would have used spectralock pro epoxy you can use this instead. And they guarantee it for life.
So just for clarity, you guys are using this exclusively on all shower floors and have been for a while?
I love the 2 bucket technique. I'm glad I saw this before grouting my kitchen tiles. (^_^)
Can I use it on the floor?
What size bucket of grout is that? In the video it looks larger than the 1 gallon size. If it is bigger where did you buy it from?
Thanks
This is a 1gal bucket. I am just tiny so it looks bigger next to me lolol
Hi Shanon, thanks a lot for this vid! Please advise: I mix a white grout for art mosaics and it turns into a chalky, soft powdery thing that isn’t hard at all. I mix to toothpaste thickness, clean surfaces and everything. Very bizarre.
Is the grout old?
Ma'am, that was an awesome tutorial. I'm an old retired Marine who is trying to refresh the grout in my 60 year old kitchen floor. I recently tried to "paint" it and it was a disaster and realized it would not last. I'd rather apply something that will out last me. Having said that would you recommend the Spectralock 1 as a viable solution, and if so where can I purchase it?
Thanks and Semper Fi
Ken
Semper Fi Ken! I would highly recommend either Laticrete Spectralok 1 or Mapei Flexcolor CQ both are similiar products and can be found at your local floor and decor. If not you can order it online no problem
Thank you Ma'am. I'm torn between doing it myself or hiring someone with experience in grout refresh. The question becomes is the juice worth the squeeze? In any event, God bless and rock on @@ThatTileChick
I really appreciate you calling out the ANSI standard here. I have been watching these videos (how to grout your tile shower!) for a few months and it's never been clearer after watching any other video that the remodelers who did our house did not all know what they were doing. So I've got my grout saw... all my tools... I noticed that nobody who does this video is ever "patching over a failed seal on recently remodeled shower" - would you ever consider doing this, or should I be digging out all the crappy grout job and redoing the whole thing? What can I do with the spaces in the corner where the plane changes, they left at least a quarter inch space for grout and they're obviously too big to use a bead of silicone now? (Why didn't my home inspector catch any of this? Crooked realtor recommended a friendly rubber stamp inspector? Ever heard of a positive outcome in cases such as this, or am I on the hook for $20k remodel now?)
To be fair, we bought it 3 years ago and I don't know what I'm doing either but I'm not a contractor. They did not use any silicone in the entire shower other than around the water controls. We have big grout lines in the corner where every plane changes, they all are wearing out in the spaces that had the most exposure to water. We had a handy-guy friend come over and try to add silicone in the spaces where grout was used, but it was unsuccessful, the grout seal definitely failed and the grout absorbs any water that it touches. Lucky we have another shower in the house. We started to notice cracks within the first 6 months like you say. Thanks again for doing this video, and again I really appreciate calling out the standard because I'm not a contractor and I don't know this stuff, but I have been hearing people say "don't put grout in that space" and they never show what to do in that space, everybody just fast-forwards to "ok we're done grouting" and you see this beautiful corner, and nothing has been said about how it got like that, other than "don't put grout!" Even in Home RenoVision's full bathroom remodel video, he skips right over this part.
I thought there was also a chance I'm ahead of myself with my grout saw and the right thing to do now is to just dig out all the grout from where it wasn't supposed to go, fill it with silicone, and douse the entire area with impregnator sealer. But very much afraid this will turn out poorly and we'll be at it again in a few years. I figure if we're going to do it at all, probably worth redoing the whole thing now. If you read this far, my actual question is, is it possible to add grout to grout or am I setting myself up to failure if I don't remove basically all of the grout before I start adding more grout now? Is it OK to just dig out enough grout so I can put down a new layer of grout? Will my new grout adhere to the old grout if it's clean, or do I want to dig out all the existing grout down all the way to the backer board?
What kind of caulk should I use in my corners?
I was going to ask the same question. What brand is the best?
Would you use Spectralock 1 in White for White Carrara marble? Or no because of bleeding or sand?
Just did a white marble shower. I used SpectraLock 1 on the shower floor tile only. It is overkill for most walls (unless it is a steam shower). Seal the tile first with 511 penetrating sealer, the day before. Then work 4-6 sq/ft max and wipe after 3-5 minutes max no matter what they say, and then wipe a second time to nearly clean. First wipe is more of a wet float process, the second wipe is to remove 90% of the product residue. After it reaches a barely dry state, wipe with the microfiber with a polishing intensity and motion. No bleeding, no scratches. The sand in the wash bucket is the finest sand I’ve ever seen. This is probably the reason it does not scratch the tile.
i used a pre mixed grout when tiling my fireplace hearth and it stained my hardwood floors really bad as i grouted the outside edge/trim, any tips to get it off quickly or prevent staining?
For a scenario like that I would tape off any surface that isn’t going to receive grout. So if I’m grouting a transition from tile to wood I would put blue tape or purple tape (won’t remove finish if left on too long) and then grout. Also keep in mind tile to any hard surface should like a termination should be getting a flexible sealant like grout color matched silicone or grout color matched acrylic caulk!
@11:00 You're exactly right, plus nobody's going to call the original tile contractor back after 20 years, if they can even remember who it was. They're going to hire a handyman e.g. me.
when I use urethane grout I do about 3-4 sq feet at a time and wipe down as I go ...always worked for me. I prefer to use it when I can because when I do it that way there is 0 clean up...no going back and wiping away the haze...
Small sections are a must !
Absolutely