This is fantastic news. I’m not an academic but a student, not in the official sense but as a stay at home mom who seeks to understand Islam more and more, it’s history, the science, and the lasting effects it’s had on the world.
۞ لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ ٱلنَّاسِ عَدَٰوَةًۭ لِّلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلْيَهُودَ وَٱلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا۟ ۖ وَلَتَجِدَنَّ أَقْرَبَهُم مَّوَدَّةًۭ لِّلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓا۟ إِنَّا نَصَـٰرَىٰ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّ مِنْهُمْ قِسِّيسِينَ وَرُهْبَانًۭا وَأَنَّهُمْ لَا يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ ٨٢ You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allāh; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant. May Allah guide you to peace and prosperity and make your children prosperity,, healthy and obedient to parents.
@@dresdi la hauwla wala quwaata ila bi'Lah, are you making baseless claims right now because rhe best language is the language of the quran and the language which Allah revealed it in.
@ibnhassanq657 arabic is better as Allah as has chosen it for the quran and our holy language, but all alanguages are from Allah they all have a level of sacredness brother , and evryone inshallah will be able to speak in the tongue other people in jannah , this is a gift frolm Allah our varying languages it doesn disregard the sacredness of arabic
Islam upon the Noble Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah of Rasool Allah Muhammad ﷺ, practiced, preserved, and propagated with the understanding of the Salaf us-Salih, is the gateway to salvation, in this world and the hereafter.
As a student of Islamic Psychology @IOU, I am delighted to hear this big news for Islam & Science. Thank you Dr. Shoab and also Paul. Jazak Allahu khairen.
Mashalla I love hearing about our beautiful Muslims brothers and sisters studying hard sciences or economics and then following up around our deen with more study. It’s these intellectual Muslims that help uncover the lies and hatred constantly thrown at people by the devil worshippers.
Absolutely fantastic stuff, Islam has far fewer conflicts with science, inshallah as we start to get back on our feet the Islamic world will once again have an important role to play in science
@@pebystroll Bless you, homie. And hopefully we can unite with our Christian brothers/sisters in humanity for such wondrous united endeavors. As has been done in Alexandria, Basra, Iraq, Andalusia, Turkey, etc. 🙏
mashallah amazing news , may Allah bless you and bless your work , I my self love reading about The science and the Quran narative that might be refering to it ,
Thanks! This is really a very exciting space for Muslim youths to get into, insha Allah, this academic progress will be help in uniting various view points seen in the Islamic world and we all can progress as an Islamic society. Thank you Paul and Dr Shoaib.
This could have just been an announcement video but I deeply appreciate the immaculate presentation given by Ustad Shoaib. Touched on some very important points and provided context on why this is important. May Allah bless you both.
Need of the hour, otherwise a muslim generation can hardly survive through the explosion of scienticfic and technological advances ahead having a bearing on their faith, thinking, acting, morality and even utility. No doubt going the way u announce may face resistance from status quo, yet tough will get going once there is pursue with perseverance.jazakallah.
Assalamualaikum Br Paul. The topic is not only very important but critical. The entire ummah should look into this topic very seriously, especially the intellectuals and the brothers and sisters who are at the helm of affairs. Br Paul, you have been doing a stupendous job in bringing some of the very important matters to the fore. May Allah swt accept your work and our ummah get benefitted out of it. Ameen.
Thank you very much, this upload was full of new book titles to search for, and I have great hopes for the amazing news, May Allah bless you both and grant you Jannah for your good deeds.
fantastic, will this discuss the roots of takfir in Islamic history and how to apply parts of sharia in today's age like cutting hands, killing of Muslims that don't pray, killing of ex Muslims etc?
SubhanAllah Wal hamdulillah Walailaha illallah Wallahu akhbar...! May Allah SWT guide all the Ummah along with those who reverted to Islam, to the true teaching of Islam and being obedient Muslims, will grant them all with a place in Jannah. Aamiin Yarobbil Aalamiin 🌙🕌🌷❤️🤲🤲🤲❤️🌷
Thanks for covering this. Not sure how I feel though. There is a part of me that is nervous about potential confusion being spread if proper Islamic vetting isn't taken. We already know the amount of confusion amongst Christians and Jews with respect to what to take literally and what to take metaphorically from the scriptures in light of modern science. Maybe high-level Muslim academics feel this lack of work from our tradition, however, the common Muslim out there doesn't feel this way. The common practicing Muslim doesn't see any conflict generally speaking, between science and Islam. Allah knows best.
I am planning to be a teacher and inshallah i will teach my students about all kinds of science with the islamic prespective and enlighten them so we dont stay ignorant
Great news. Muzaffar Iqbal had a similar project while ago. Iqbal's project finished (i guess) after publishing the fouth volume. it's a great resource on the relationship between Islam and Science with contributions from many great minds of this filed.
God bless you 🙏. Hamdella. I hope one day there would be an international community for young Muslim adults that are gifts in science and math so they can be trained and skilled for future projects that include science and Islam
Islam in it's theology is very scientific. from the basic 1=1 and not 1=3 to the complex concept such as Allah asking us if we came from nothing or created ourselves.
Political freedom is paramount for society's well-being in every aspect of life. May be Turkey is an exception. But not much hope…… Insha’a Allah praying for the best.
Please also search Fuat Sezgin from Germany. He is a prominent German /Turkish historian and has built the Islamic science museum in Germany and Turkiye.
اِنَّ اللّٰهَ لَا يَسْتَحْيٖٓ اَنْ يَّضْرِبَ مَثَلًا مَّا بَعُوْضَةً فَمَا فَوْقَهَا ۗ فَاَمَّا الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا فَيَعْلَمُوْنَ اَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّهِمْ ۚ وَاَمَّا الَّذِيْنَ كَفَرُوْا فَيَقُوْلُوْنَ مَاذَآ اَرَادَ اللّٰهُ بِهٰذَا مَثَلًا ۘ يُضِلُّ بِهٖ كَثِيْرًا وَّيَهْدِيْ بِهٖ كَثِيْرًا ۗ وَمَا يُضِلُّ بِهٖٓ اِلَّا الْفٰسِقِيْنَۙ ( البقرة: ٢٦ ) Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it. And those who have believed know that it is the truth from their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, they say, "What did Allah intend by this as an example?" He misleads many thereby and guides many thereby. And He misleads not except the defiantly disobedient, (Al-Baqarah [2] : 26) Very good presentation how true what Allah ﷻ say in this verse of Qur'an
Kudos, glimpse of hope for the hibernating Ummah. Presentation reminds me of Brother Tariq Ramadan, who was trying to bridge/ bring these two sources (religious/science,modern,secular) closer. Unfortunately he was sidelined.
I was surprised that he didn't mention Bediuzzaman Said Nursi his books are all mention the relationship between science and Quran he even says that the universe is a book that we need to read to understand creation.
My son's embryology textbook in its opening chapter had the developmental stages of the embryo as mentioned in The Quran. These are exactly as the Quran describes. The second edition of the same book was published with complete removal of that particular text. Here is an example of western 'honesty'.
I am thinking of ways to help bringing arabic language and Islamic content to AI as a technologist. Will share more here and would love to get some advice on this from the guest.
Hopefully you're talking about recent history of Muslims and science and not Islam's relation to science in its golden age which paved the way for others to science and scientific methodology.
It would be interesting to have Imam Facchine and Dr Shoaib in a conversational episode after the series on Reinstating Orientalism is complete. Dr Salman Sayyid comments in Recalling the Caliphate….science, logic and rationalism as a collective language (Westernese) and the effort to discover/invent/create our own language. Not to undermine Dr. Shoaib’s efforts,It would be interesting to see if there is an opportunity to go beyond the epistemological boundaries and come up with new concepts and language (perhaps not even call Science…Science :) )
I had to go pack and painfully sit for 90 minutes listening to the guests video from a year ago about evolution and islam, i recommend to watch it before youvstart takingvthe guest or anythingvhe advocates or promotes seriously, i also felt to copy my comment in respobse tovthe earlier video here: Thank you Paul for the good questions, my humble takeaway here is that your guest is a living, speaking proof of what is wrong with many things in this world. Among these things, the scientific community , Muslims seeking acceptance in the scientific community and cracking under the pressure, Muslims raised in the west. One important point as well, I always thought that the difference between Ashaari thought and salafi thought had to do with technicalities not encountered by the layman, but boy, pheww, that was eye opening, he basically brought together a Frankenstein of ideas that has no place in Islam ( Adam's offspring had sex with human like but not really human product of evolution), lucky for him he found a place for that in Ashaari thought ( if it is not outright denied on the Quran then it is a mtwakif matter). I think this guest is one of the weakest, if not the weakest arguments that came on your otherwise brilliant podcast.
Quran (18:60): Allah SWT said: (And recount to them the story of Moses) when Moses said to his servant: "I will journey on until I reach the point where the two rivers meet, though I may march on for ages. When God told the prophet Moses that there's a man who has some knowledge that you don't have, Moses told his assistant boy that I will not rest (I'll keep walking) until I meet this man who has extra knowledge so he can teach me, even if I walk for years. AllahuAkbar, this is how the Muslims used to seek knowledge 👇👇
And we read in Buhkari that "Jabber ben Abdellah" who lives in al-Hijaz, heard a hadit of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, narrated by Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, The prophet said: "The people will be assembled on the Day of Resurrection barefooted, naked and uncircumcised".... And people told him that "Abdullah ibn Unais," who lives in al-Sham, heard the hadith from the prophet Muhammad. So Jabber traveled all the way to al-Sham on a camel in 30 days in the extreme heat of the desert🥵 just to meet him .Why, Jabber, would you do such a thing? Because of one hadith? You already know it... That's not what he wanted, he wanted to hear it from the man who heard it directly from the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. And now he has to go back to his home, spending another 30 days in the desert.
Fantastic. Looking forward to new streams and students in Islam and science. I think we need to think better. I remember Imran Khan who is currently in jail spoke and acted upon developing islamic academics including the history and science in his country Pakistan. Unfortunately that country is infested and ruined by her own corrupt army generals and the politicians.
This is fantastic news. I’m not an academic but a student, not in the official sense but as a stay at home mom who seeks to understand Islam more and more, it’s history, the science, and the lasting effects it’s had on the world.
May Allah make it easy for you to understand Islam!
۞ لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ ٱلنَّاسِ عَدَٰوَةًۭ لِّلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلْيَهُودَ وَٱلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا۟ ۖ وَلَتَجِدَنَّ أَقْرَبَهُم مَّوَدَّةًۭ لِّلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓا۟ إِنَّا نَصَـٰرَىٰ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّ مِنْهُمْ قِسِّيسِينَ وَرُهْبَانًۭا وَأَنَّهُمْ لَا يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ ٨٢
You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allāh; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.
May Allah guide you to peace and prosperity and make your children prosperity,, healthy and obedient to parents.
Imagine, walking into the gates of Jannah and the first thing you hear is “You’re most welcome sir!😃” Subhanallah, May Allah grant us all Paradise. 🤲🏿
In Arabic it would be better to hear Tafadal akhee kareem
@@ibnhassanq657Allah speaks all languages, Arabic isn't preferred or "better"
@@dresdi la hauwla wala quwaata ila bi'Lah, are you making baseless claims right now because rhe best language is the language of the quran and the language which Allah revealed it in.
@ibnhassanq657 arabic is better as Allah as has chosen it for the quran and our holy language, but all alanguages are from Allah they all have a level of sacredness brother , and evryone inshallah will be able to speak in the tongue other people in jannah , this is a gift frolm Allah our varying languages it doesn disregard the sacredness of arabic
@mohammadsaminirtisum6152 show the daleel that the languages will be many in jannah?
That's HUGE. Building the infrastructure for Science and Islam ❤
Islam upon the Noble Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah of Rasool Allah Muhammad ﷺ, practiced, preserved, and propagated with the understanding of the Salaf us-Salih, is the gateway to salvation, in this world and the hereafter.
May Allah Bless Both of You in this Life and in the Hereafter.
Wonderful topic!When science and religion show the world that faith and logic aren't contradictory like people tend to believe.
Illuminating book: Logic and Transcendence by Frithjof Schuon
As a student of Islamic Psychology @IOU, I am delighted to hear this big news for Islam & Science. Thank you Dr. Shoab and also Paul. Jazak Allahu khairen.
Alhamdulilah
Brothers may Allah give you success always
Always a good topic thanks mr paul
Mashalla I love hearing about our beautiful Muslims brothers and sisters studying hard sciences or economics and then following up around our deen with more study. It’s these intellectual Muslims that help uncover the lies and hatred constantly thrown at people by the devil worshippers.
BT has made some high class academic stuff accessible to layman like me. May Allah bless your efforts
Alhamdulillah
MashaAllah awesome presentation and great news
Absolutely fantastic stuff, Islam has far fewer conflicts with science, inshallah as we start to get back on our feet the Islamic world will once again have an important role to play in science
As a Christian I wish for nothing more, imagine how much it would help the world ❤
@@pebystroll Bless you, homie. And hopefully we can unite with our Christian brothers/sisters in humanity for such wondrous united endeavors. As has been done in Alexandria, Basra, Iraq, Andalusia, Turkey, etc. 🙏
@@pebystroll Godbless
@@snakejuce Thanks man and Godbless
Insha'ALLAH
I absolutely loved this, Subhanallah thanks for all you do Paul
mashallah amazing news , may Allah bless you and bless your work , I my self love reading about The science and the Quran narative that might be refering to it ,
Thank you brother Paul for brining this great content.
Thanks!
This is really a very exciting space for Muslim youths to get into, insha Allah, this academic progress will be help in uniting various view points seen in the Islamic world and we all can progress as an Islamic society.
Thank you Paul and Dr Shoaib.
This could have just been an announcement video but I deeply appreciate the immaculate presentation given by Ustad Shoaib. Touched on some very important points and provided context on why this is important. May Allah bless you both.
Need of the hour, otherwise a muslim generation can hardly survive through the explosion of scienticfic and technological advances ahead having a bearing on their faith, thinking, acting, morality and even utility. No doubt going the way u announce may face resistance from status quo, yet tough will get going once there is pursue with perseverance.jazakallah.
Assalamualaikum Br Paul.
The topic is not only very important but critical. The entire ummah should look into this topic very seriously, especially the intellectuals and the brothers and sisters who are at the helm of affairs.
Br Paul, you have been doing a stupendous job in bringing some of the very important matters to the fore. May Allah swt accept your work and our ummah get benefitted out of it. Ameen.
Wa alaykumu s-salam
This is really good news. May Allah reward You brother.
I genuinely want to contribute to this Noble endeavour. Hopefully Allah will make a way for me.
Jazakoum Allah khairan.. and I want to mention that Nidhal Guessoum is one of our great muslim scientists today ❤
Dr Shoaib you are doing a good job, may Allah give you wisdom and knowledge to complete this worthy cause, Insha-Allah.
MashaAllah! May God make it succesful, ameen! As an IT-architect and amateur theologian my hart glows❤ 😂
How do you become an IT expert and a theologian at the same time..?
@@SkepticalScribe3940 Why do you ask?
Alhamdulillah for Islam ☪️ ❤
Thank you very much, this upload was full of new book titles to search for, and I have great hopes for the amazing news, May Allah bless you both and grant you Jannah for your good deeds.
Jazakallahu khairan Paul. You are doing great effort in bringing such amazing people closer to us. May you achieve eternal happiness in Return.❤
Alhamdulillah
Ma'Sha'Allah Alhumdullilah Allahu-Akbar. Jazakallah Khair ya Ustad for sharing.
assalamualaikum wbt brother Paul … your channel is awesome … keep it up … a Malaysian on an umrah in the Holy Land Mecca, Saudi Arabia … alhamdulillah
Wa alaykumu s-salam
Mashallah
Allah bless you both and all those involved in bringing the truth to the light n for the benefits of humanity.
Excellent presentation.
Wonderful presentation Dr. Special gratitude to blogging theology for such an initiation.
Excellent. It is imperative for this to be developed. With Palgrave and Macmillan involved, this will bring it to the forefront, Insha’Allah.
Thanks Paul for enlightening information with wonderful guest.
Allah Taala Wajjal...the Best Scientist, Designor, Programmer, Biologist, Physicist, Chemist, Engineer, Artist, Geologist, Psycologist etc etc.......❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
love the excitement and passion fom both! Thanks Blogging Theology and Dr Shoaib, God Bless.
Well... that was an interesting watch laden with plethora of information.
fantastic, will this discuss the roots of takfir in Islamic history and how to apply parts of sharia in today's age like cutting hands, killing of Muslims that don't pray, killing of ex Muslims etc?
MashAllah this is exciting! Thank you Paul for having Dr. Malik in the show. I can't wait to hear more about this.
Islam will win at the end
Shoaib ....im.vvvvv proud of u .msy Allah bless u wd the best of knowledge and saleh iman.ameen.
Very interesting subject , thank you brothers
This amazing opportunity for Muslims share there work to others
Brother Paul Williams may kindly have a discourse with Dr. Sabeel Ahmed in the USA. I think you know each other.
SubhanAllah Wal hamdulillah Walailaha illallah Wallahu akhbar...!
May Allah SWT guide all the Ummah along with those who reverted to Islam, to the true teaching of Islam and being obedient Muslims, will grant them all with a place in Jannah. Aamiin Yarobbil Aalamiin 🌙🕌🌷❤️🤲🤲🤲❤️🌷
Thanks for covering this. Not sure how I feel though. There is a part of me that is nervous about potential confusion being spread if proper Islamic vetting isn't taken. We already know the amount of confusion amongst Christians and Jews with respect to what to take literally and what to take metaphorically from the scriptures in light of modern science. Maybe high-level Muslim academics feel this lack of work from our tradition, however, the common Muslim out there doesn't feel this way. The common practicing Muslim doesn't see any conflict generally speaking, between science and Islam. Allah knows best.
I am planning to be a teacher and inshallah i will teach my students about all kinds of science with the islamic prespective and enlighten them so we dont stay ignorant
Great news. Muzaffar Iqbal had a similar project while ago. Iqbal's project finished (i guess) after publishing the fouth volume. it's a great resource on the relationship between Islam and Science with contributions from many great minds of this filed.
God bless you 🙏. Hamdella.
I hope one day there would be an international community for young Muslim adults that are gifts in science and math so they can be trained and skilled for future projects that include science and Islam
Excellent presentation.
MashaAllah, it’s time to assemble the Avengers of the Muslim intellectual sphere and spread guidance to Mankind 😊
Stay in Africa with your allah nonsence.
The rest of the planet is not interested in that islamic fairytale.
The guy is a fraud, hold your horses
Thabk you Paul and Dr Shoaib 🙏🏿
very excited about this one 34:45
I am really so happy 😊 😊 to heard about this huge news ❤❤
That is great 🎉
May Allah give us taufeek of working in this field of science and islam and may Allah accept it.
Jazaakumullaahu khairan brother Paul for sharing this wonderful discussion w us
Masallah!!!
alhamdoulillah!
Magnificent
Islam in it's theology is very scientific. from the basic 1=1 and not 1=3 to the complex concept such as Allah asking us if we came from nothing or created ourselves.
Logical not scientific.
Mabrook to Shuaib. He's been making major moves over the last 3yrs.
mashallah keep up the good work , may allah help you spreading the truth
Great video, thank you, note to self(nts) watched all of it 36:12
Political freedom is paramount for society's well-being in every aspect of life.
May be Turkey is an exception. But not much hope…… Insha’a Allah praying for the best.
Smart chap. Well delivered.
Jajakallahu khairan.
My brother Paul & Malik, take my❤
Please also search Fuat Sezgin from Germany. He is a prominent German /Turkish historian and has built the Islamic science museum in Germany and Turkiye.
Only if the welthy mozlems/ countries invested in the scientific researches .........😢
Is there a specific website - regarding the work/updates/inProgress work etc whats going on/ what to expect?
Dr Shoaib will make announcements in due course. Sorry I can't be more helpful at this time.
Best of luck to Dr. Shoaib
You should look into “Said Nursi and Science in Islam: Character Building through Nursi’s Mana-i Harfi” by Dr. Necati Aydin
SUBHHANALLOH, fantastic news for sure
ما شاء الله
Really great and promising endeavour👌💖💐
Wish you all the success.
May الله accept, reward and keep you steadfast -آمين.
اِنَّ اللّٰهَ لَا يَسْتَحْيٖٓ اَنْ يَّضْرِبَ مَثَلًا مَّا بَعُوْضَةً فَمَا فَوْقَهَا ۗ فَاَمَّا الَّذِيْنَ اٰمَنُوْا فَيَعْلَمُوْنَ اَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّهِمْ ۚ وَاَمَّا الَّذِيْنَ كَفَرُوْا فَيَقُوْلُوْنَ مَاذَآ اَرَادَ اللّٰهُ بِهٰذَا مَثَلًا ۘ يُضِلُّ بِهٖ كَثِيْرًا وَّيَهْدِيْ بِهٖ كَثِيْرًا ۗ وَمَا يُضِلُّ بِهٖٓ اِلَّا الْفٰسِقِيْنَۙ ( البقرة: ٢٦ )
Indeed, Allah is not timid to present an example - that of a mosquito or what is smaller than it. And those who have believed know that it is the truth from their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, they say, "What did Allah intend by this as an example?" He misleads many thereby and guides many thereby. And He misleads not except the defiantly disobedient, (Al-Baqarah [2] : 26)
Very good presentation how true what Allah ﷻ say in this verse of Qur'an
Kudos, glimpse of hope for the hibernating Ummah.
Presentation reminds me of Brother Tariq Ramadan, who was trying to bridge/ bring these two sources (religious/science,modern,secular) closer. Unfortunately he was sidelined.
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Looking forward, inshaAllah. JazakAllah.
Jamaluddin Afghani was a Freemasons whose students eventually helped start the Salafi Sect later popularised by albani.
I was surprised that he didn't mention Bediuzzaman Said Nursi his books are all mention the relationship between science and Quran he even says that the universe is a book that we need to read to understand creation.
Great Initiative..Ummah must always remember to give 24 HOURS STREET DAWAH MAKE THE WORLD ISLAMIC AGAIN....InShaAllah
Maa shaa Allah
You contents are amazing and helpful. Thank you very much
My son's embryology textbook in its opening chapter had the developmental stages of the embryo as mentioned in The Quran. These are exactly as the Quran describes. The second edition of the same book was published with complete removal of that particular text. Here is an example of western 'honesty'.
I am thinking of ways to help bringing arabic language and Islamic content to AI as a technologist.
Will share more here and would love to get some advice on this from the guest.
How about teaching/giving it a large library of books on Islamic sciences so users could ask it questions and it would answer with references?
That's great, Bro.
It would need many books/internet information to train the model and more importantly, the validity of it.
We lost so much amazing science in Baghdad, after Ghengis Khan. So unfortunate, but it is also known that people lose science as time progresses.
Maashaa"allaah, Truth Will out.
A biggest work will be done inshaallah.
Interesting 🤔 I will try to contribute in engineering/chemical engineering/material engineering.
SUBHANALLAH..
WALHAMDULILLAH..
WALAILAHAILLALLAH..
ALLAHU AKBAR..
BARAKALLAHU FIIKUM.
Remarkable ❤. Thank you
Thank you,
It make me realise bigger thing
JazakAllah'u khairan
Hopefully you're talking about recent history of Muslims and science and not Islam's relation to science in its golden age which paved the way for others to science and scientific methodology.
It would be interesting to have Imam Facchine and Dr Shoaib in a conversational episode after the series on Reinstating Orientalism is complete.
Dr Salman Sayyid comments in Recalling the Caliphate….science, logic and rationalism as a collective language (Westernese) and the effort to discover/invent/create our own language.
Not to undermine Dr. Shoaib’s efforts,It would be interesting to see if there is an opportunity to go beyond the epistemological boundaries and come up with new concepts and language (perhaps not even call Science…Science :) )
I had to go pack and painfully sit for 90 minutes listening to the guests video from a year ago about evolution and islam, i recommend to watch it before youvstart takingvthe guest or anythingvhe advocates or promotes seriously, i also felt to copy my comment in respobse tovthe earlier video here:
Thank you Paul for the good questions, my humble takeaway here is that your guest is a living, speaking proof of what is wrong with many things in this world. Among these things, the scientific community , Muslims seeking acceptance in the scientific community and cracking under the pressure, Muslims raised in the west. One important point as well, I always thought that the difference between Ashaari thought and salafi thought had to do with technicalities not encountered by the layman, but boy, pheww, that was eye opening, he basically brought together a Frankenstein of ideas that has no place in Islam ( Adam's offspring had sex with human like but not really human product of evolution), lucky for him he found a place for that in Ashaari thought ( if it is not outright denied on the Quran then it is a mtwakif matter). I think this guest is one of the weakest, if not the weakest arguments that came on your otherwise brilliant podcast.
Quran (18:60): Allah SWT said: (And recount to them the story of Moses) when Moses said to his servant: "I will journey on until I reach the point where the two rivers meet, though I may march on for ages.
When God told the prophet Moses that there's a man who has some knowledge that you don't have, Moses told his assistant boy that I will not rest (I'll keep walking) until I meet this man who has extra knowledge so he can teach me, even if I walk for years. AllahuAkbar, this is how the Muslims used to seek knowledge 👇👇
And we read in Buhkari that "Jabber ben Abdellah" who lives in al-Hijaz, heard a hadit of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, narrated by Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, The prophet said: "The people will be assembled on the Day of Resurrection barefooted, naked and uncircumcised".... And people told him that "Abdullah ibn Unais," who lives in al-Sham, heard the hadith from the prophet Muhammad. So Jabber traveled all the way to al-Sham on a camel in 30 days in the extreme heat of the desert🥵 just to meet him .Why, Jabber, would you do such a thing? Because of one hadith? You already know it... That's not what he wanted, he wanted to hear it from the man who heard it directly from the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
And now he has to go back to his home, spending another 30 days in the desert.
Salam n rahmah to all you there..aameen
Fantastic. Looking forward to new streams and students in Islam and science. I think we need to think better. I remember Imran Khan who is currently in jail spoke and acted upon developing islamic academics including the history and science in his country Pakistan. Unfortunately that country is infested and ruined by her own corrupt army generals and the politicians.
Paul,, Please, please try to bring Dr Seyyed Hossein Nasr to your program
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