I used to be a hindu and then became an atheist but neither hinduism nor atheism made any sense to me. After intensive and thorough research, I found the truth in Islam and accepted it, Alhamdulillah !!
Prey to Allah that your success here and after that, because you choose the real relegion and hope start implementing everything as per order by creater and follow the massenger of Allah Md swa
This conversation is a testament to the thought-provoking content that The Thinking Muslim continues to produce. Dr. Uthman Badar's insights on the notion of a caliphate, and its relevance in our contemporary era of nation-states, were nothing short of enlightening. As Muslims, our faith guides us through the complexities of modern society, and these kinds of discussions, though challenging, are crucial for our intellectual and spiritual growth. Dr. Badar's scholarly perspective, backed by his deep understanding of Philosophy and Islamic studies, shines a fresh light on the issue. His analysis of a post-nation state system to resolve some of the most pressing challenges faced by the Muslim ummah offers a unique perspective. This indeed stirs the thought that even if the world is moving towards individual nation-states, there might still be room for unified efforts under a spiritual banner to address these intractable problems. As we navigate these complicated times, we should indeed consider all options, utilize our resources, and channel our potential for the betterment of the ummah. The dialogue Dr. Badar initiates here sparks contemplation and shows us the importance of engaging in such discourse. Looking forward to more of such enlightening content from The Thinking Muslim. Peace and blessings to all. 🌙✨ Assalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh
Even a start-up company has CEO. Point to me a FORTUNE 500 company without a CEO. When it comes to money these people recognise the importance of long-term leadership, direction and devotion, but when it comes to running the affairs OF THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS GROUP IN THE WORLD. People are suddenly like "oh there's no need for leadership". Either they're evil or ignorant. How many Muslims have been murdered since our last Caliph? How many lands invaded? How many injustices have we faced. We believed the rhetoric of the hypocrites once, look where it took us. Never will we believe it again.
Alhamdulillah this channel is growing. The last few videos released have been very interesting contemporary topics addressing key issues in the Islamosophere. Keep up the good work.
@@mikemalzahnThere is a Ijmaa of Schoolars that say we need a Caliphate. The brother in the video mentioned some amd I have a large list of schoolars that say the same. So yes, we defenitly need a caliphate.
@@mikemalzahn yes ofcause. The Islam has come to rule all over the world. But the Futuhaad (opening the lands for the Islam) will not be done like the crusades warfare or the warfare of the USA nowadays. It would b done in a hole different way so that the nations will love to come under islamic rule. Like in the past when nations accepted islam after they got to know what islam looks like when it is established in a state.
Been watching you for a while now. Appreciate the very well informed guests. You definitely have made yourself stand out from the rest of the Islamic podcasts
The Messenger of Allah, The Prophet Muhammad a.s has said : Allah will help to bring a renewal for this religion of islam every 100 years This is a narration from a 15th century earlier than our time now and which I support to actualize in the modern world
*We can all agree that these matters should be handled by scholars. I have a sincere question though... What if we live in a world where prominent scholars are being jailed merely for speaking haqq and advising the rulers? Why are you not recognizing this current problem?**It's been three years since Sheikh Fahd al-Qadi died in Saudi prison due to medical negligence by the authorities.* Sheikh al-Qadi was arrested in 2016 because of a PRIVATE letter of advice he sent to the Saudi Royal Court in which he described violations committed by the Ministry of Education. He was known for his work with the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. *He was sent to prison because he advised the ruler PRIVATELY! What will Madkhalis say next? Advise the rulers in your hearts and dreams.*
@@TheThinkingMuslim We are having 30 year long difficulties in conceptualizing and proceessing the Western invented Nation State system of Government. Thus, Somalia is a failed State today and as such under UN Chapter #7 in perpetuity. We pray for the return of the savior, the uniter of the Ummah, the Khalifah (Caliphate).
It is right that an intelligent person does not undervalue three [types of people]: the scholars, the rulers, and [his Muslim] brothers. Whoever undervalues the scholars will lose his afterlife, whoever undervalues the rulers will lose his worldly life, and whoever undervalues his brothers loses his good character and conduct.
Unfortunately 99% of scholars today have sold their deen for money, fame and position. Look at the celebrity jew worshiping mufti menk (la’natullah alayh).
Muslim Feminists: Khadija was an empowered businesswoman, and Aisha was a university professor and a teacher for men. We must follow the example of the mothers of the believers. {And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance...} ال{وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَى... "Muslim" Feminists also: No, we don't have to follow this orders. It is not ours; It is for mothers of believers only.
What, as important as issues like putting food on the table, looking after your elders or bringing up your children to be good mumin musolman? This Caliphate obsession amongst political activists does nothing to help the bad situation of Muslims worldwide. All this hypothetical imperialistic and aggressive hyperventilating about gaining political power does is give ammunition to the far right. The Caliphates of old were merely empires where the local leader used religion to legitimise their rule. Most Muslims of their time did not recognise their claims. There was little religious about it. The Ottomans didn't even do Hajj. Ever.
I strongly believe that it is imperative for me as a Muslim to challenge the current unbelieving nations and their leaders with the best arguments of the Glorious Qur'an to prove them that Allah is still Greater and still Merciful towards them and at the same time I would unite my sheep
Brother Uthman good to hear you again. I fail to understand why Muslims don’t see Afghanistan where the . لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله flag is flying start point. Help the country to proper because only place in this earth today 100% islam is being practiced. The meaning of Allahumma arinal haqqa Haq is O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
@1zy lead what to not allowing women to be educated living in the dark ages many women and girls committing suicide. Young girls forced to marry much older men stoning is back yeah what a wonderful life Afghanis are living
In afghanistan the shariah is not implemented 100%. Taliban had the chance to reestablish the Caliphate (Al-Khilāfah) but founded a ,,emirate". In islam there is no thing like an ,,emirate". Also when 1 mio. of the Uighur brothers who are in contentration camps in china asked the emirate of afganistan for help they respondet that they do not interfear in inner political afairs of souverane states like china. This is not what Islam tells us to do. Also they ecept the colonial man-made country borders in the islamic world which also is not what islam teaches us.
@@TheThinkingMuslim- interesting discussion, but is the Caliphate really the most pressing matter facing Muslims or is their lack of connection to and understanding of the Qur'an a much bigger problem? Why does anyone expect the Muslims to strive to resurrect the Caliphate if they don't firstly grasp the basis of their belief because they are alienated from their core religious instructions?
@@ankhmorpok1497 we can have education systems in place in a calphate offering free education at all levels as was the practice of some islamic caliphates in the past, also those education systems would not be susceptible to ideological attacks by lgbt because they’re officially sanctioned by the islamic caliphate. Also there would be no medical industrial complex forcing children to get surgeries to change their gender because obviously this is not islamic. The media apparatus of the caliphate would broadcast islamic content and ban kufr ideas that are causing depression anxiety social ailments such as porn, etc. The problems we see in todays kufr systems are a result of the absence of a caliphate
@@ankhmorpok1497 *The secular West’s double standards are glaringly evident from how they deal with “irrationality”. When this so-called irrationality is linked with religion it’s a problem. However, when it comes to things like “gender fluidity” it’s completely fine. Another example that can be mentioned is how the “clairvoyant” Edgar Cayce was extremely popular during the early 20th-century.* And it’s the same story when it comes to aliens. The secular West, unable to fight its innate tendency to believe in the ghayb, proposes the likely existence of a non-human species which could communicate with our world - the same way Muslims believe in the jinn! Of course all of this is done in the name of their own religion: science. They even have their own priests in the form of astrobiologists etc. This belief of theirs is of the same nature as ours, even if they try and add some pseudo-empiricist spice: there may be tangible elements pointing towards the existence of aliens. They fail to grasp how we too say there are “tangible elements” regarding the influences of the jinn within our world.*
Please invite someone from Hezb Tahrir since they are largest group of Muslims with a lot of supporters and very intellectual personalities. The are working for Caliphate
@@na-mj2xj they are the only non violent group in the Muslim world who has millions of members all around the world with concrete Caliphate knowledge and strong Aqeedah who are the only hope for Muslim ummah to establish Caliphate
Allah said : " I will create a Khalifa " The Glorious Qur'an That was the will of Allah and what a wonderful virtue it is to become a Khalifa to the Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to some of the speakers opinions, which were not hard hitting unrealistic caliphate evangelism. I do think the question of Fard Kifaaya needs to be widely understood. It's unfair to place responsibility on the mother drowned in debt and children or the illiterate worker doing just enough to feed his family. The repsonbility falls upon those who are in such positions, then those who are capable, then those around them to engage and pretest change. We often say the whole community is to blame, relinquishing repsonbility from the Ulema and Muslim leaders. We owe them our allegiance but not a blueprint.
عن عبد الله بن عمرو بن العاص رضي الله عنهما ، قال: سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: «إنَّ اللهَ لاَ يَقْبِضُ العِلْمَ انْتِزَاعاً يَنْتَزعهُ مِنَ النَّاسِ، وَلكِنْ يَقْبِضُ العِلْمَ بِقَبْضِ العُلَمَاءِ، حَتَّى إِذَا لَمْ يُبْقِ عَالِماً، اتَّخَذَ النَّاسُ رُؤُوساً جُهَّالاً، فَسُئِلُوا فَأفْتوا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ، فَضَلُّوا وَأضَلُّوا» This hadith sums up my thoughts on this video. What a sad state of affairs we are in. Islam is simple to understand and those with deep knowledge don't confuse while explaining it. A clear sign of someone who doesn't have understanding is he confuses, in my opinion. The hadith states, my translation, "the Prophet SAW said verily Allah SWT doesn't seize knowledge by removing it from the people but instead he seizes it by taking the souls of those with knowledge until the people take ignorant people as their heads, they then make verdicts without knowledge there upon people are miss guided and miss guide others." It not that people don't have knowledge around at that moment, just that no one takes them seriously and people start taking wafflers too seriously and ignoring those with knowledge, after those who were scholarly (knowledgeable) and recognized as scholars passed. SAD
We never had a united Muslim role except during the tone of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and the khilafah-e-rashideen upon whom Allah is pleased. And even the last ottoman one was dystopic with Ottoman putting mentally deficient relatives under house arrest. The tanzinat reforms. Mu'awiyyah upon whom Allah is pleased rebellion against Ali upon whom Allah is pleased. The Seljuks and Ayubids. There have always been multiple Muslim dynasties at the same time that were distinct from each other. The best way to go is an EU type union
It's ironic how the madkhalis fulfil the trait of the true khawarij, 1) they'll be from our ppl 2) harsh against the Muslims merciful towards the kufar 3) the Quran doesn't leave their throats..
Calipha = King = Ruler = Administrator. Main problem is our own ability to divide ourself. And our disability to UNITE AS MUSLIM . We need no other title , as Salaf, Sufi,Shia, Ahmadi or Alawi , all we need is one title of MUSLIM . Our ultimate goal must be to work unitedly with Muslims and with Christians, Jews and Hindus . Just like it was done in Iraq and Spain .
When the Abbasid Caliph was under permanent house arrest under his own semi-pagan Turkic slaves, what was the point of the Caliph? Or when the qaramita managed to sack Makkah, steal the black stone, shatter it and keep it for 21 years, while the Caliph al Muqtadir was too busy with wine, music and the harem to actually bother governing. Resulting in the restoration of alMutadidto be replaced with feudalism. Allowing the Shia daylamite mountain tribes to make the Caliph their puppet, followed by the semi-pagan nomadic Turks from the Aral sea for over a century. And the Fatimids and Cordoba made their own caliphates, diluting the title. And al Mamun a so called 'Sunni' Caliph was a Shi'ite Mutazilite. Under some Umayyad Caliphs atrocities were committed against the family of the prophet... Many other caliphs were men of no moral standing... What is the point of a faasiq, drunkard, potentially homosexual (Walid ii, Al Amin) who knows so little about Islam, being the head of the Muslim world? When Salahudin took Egypt he took the title of Khaadim alHaramain ashSharifayn. And he ensured his Hajj delegation entered Makkah before the Caliphs. Clearly showing the lack of concern for the Caliph. The Caliph, "head of the Muslim world" also sent almost no support whatsoever to fight against the Crusaders, despite having ousted the Seljuks from Iraq. If he isn't helping against Crusaders, far worse than Israel, What's the point of him? Then the Mongols killed the Caliph, with nobody coming to his aid, depsite his pleas. Then the Mamluk slaves created a Cairo Caliphate. However he was more powerless then ever. Only brought out when the Mamluks needed him for a slight legitimacy boost. While the Mamluk sultans kept Khaadim alHaramain for themselves, showing they viewed that title as more important. There is dispute how and when the Ottoman took the title of Caliph. And even then they rarely used the title, mainly against the Moroccans who disregarded the Ottoman claim, since teh Moroccans were Sharifan. The title only really began to be used after the Ottomans lost Crimea in 1774. But the modern concept comes more from Abdulhamid ii attempt at uniting the Muslim world against the colonists. Finally the fall of the Caliphate left a hole in the Muslim world. Leading to a recent Caliphate resurgence within Muslim minds. But ever since the Anarchy at Samarra in 861, the Caliph was weak and powerless. And ever since the end of the Mihna, the Caliph lost all religious/judicial power to the scholars. I feel like many of us have a very naïve concept of Caliphate.
But still when caliphate exist people have direction Have you seen what happened between Russian and Ukraine or Germany and alliance forces Muslims are fighting each If there's caliphate people will united whether caliph pious or not The ultimate goal is unity Look at the world muslim are killing each other
Jazakallah khair, although I may disagree with some of your framing, many Muslim historians would question your point about when the caliphate title was adopted by the Ottomans - - I think your broader point of not over-romanticising history is so important. That said, one has to survey Islam’s long history without allowing the aberrations and excesses to blinker our assessment. The period of the Sahabah was full of challenges, yet most Muslims are able to observe that Islam cam not for angels but for human beings. I value your comments and hope to engage further brother. MJ
@@TheThinkingMuslim I think its important to distinguish between historians and activists. The historical record does not conflict with the revealed texts, which state that the caliphate ended 30 years after the Prophet's ﷺ passing, whereafter the umma was ruled by dynastic succession - exactly as he ﷺ foretold. What we’re seeing in the last 100 years or so is a back-projection by activists of an ahistoric, romanticized conception of the caliphate. This is similar to how Christian evangelists will reframe the historical Jesus to confirm to their pre-conceived theology which was developed centuries after the fact. As regards the Ottomans specifically, the reality is, as was mentioned above, that it was largely following the treaty of Küçük Kaynarca in 1774 that the Porte instituted a trans-sultanate, papal-esque caliphal role as consolation for the loss of Black Sea coastal territories. AbdulHamid II similarly invoked a spiritual caliphal office to garner international “ummatic” support in light of the crises he was having to deal with. But outside such episodes, the archives make it clear that it was the Chingisid bloodline that the Ottomans sought legitimacy through, not the Islamic institution of the khilafa. In fact, their Maturidi creed precluded them from claiming the caliphate in a real, religious sense. For the the bulk of their history, when the house of Osman did wear the caliphal crown, they do so ceremonially.
@KnowledgeNorth lots of issues with your comment, there are many assumptions, strawmanning and sectarianism. Assumptions are despite the history and for arguments sake let's take your narrative, then this has no issue with if the system is based on Islam ie Khilafah, sultanate, amperage etc. These terms are synonymous. Rulership by kingship doesn't negate the khilfah, as long as the leader gains bayah from the ahle wall al aqd. The issue of being matarudi, ashari or atteri.. by consensus all recognise as being Muslim. So once again strawman.
Love the show but this type of topics always leaves me perplexed because remains so theoretical at the end of the day despite the goodwill of the honorable guest(s)
With this being said, Dr Badar is an absolute gem and the go-to person on this topic for me. His speech on "God and his prophets must be protected from insult" is a masterclass of rhetoric. God protect you both!
isue khilafah terus makin kekinian semakin bbersinar seiring keingintahuan masyarakat dunia saat ini BRAVO khilafah islamiyah.takbir ! Allahu Akbar.🤠😎🌏👨🎓
The most frequently expressed complaint men have about women is that, women are always trying to change them. When a woman loves man, she feels responsible to assist him growing, try to help him improve the way he does things. She forms the home improvement committee and he becomes her primary focus. No matter how much he resist her help, she persists. Waiting for an opportunity to help him or tell him what to do. She thinks she's nurturing him while he feels he's being controlled, instead he wants her acceptance. The most frequently expressed complaint women have about men is that men don't listen. Either man completely ignores her when she speaks or he listens for few beats, assesses what bothering her and then he proudly puts on his mr fix-it hat and offer her a solution to make her feel better. No matter how many times she tells him that he's not listening, he doesn't get it and he keeps doing the same thing. She wants empathy. He thinks she wants solutions.
Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allāh. So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered. Qur'aan [8:36]
Allah has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islam). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). (Surah an-nur verse 55 - 24:55)
@@Iamfsaly Oops. Sorry bro. That wasn't meant for you. I was wondering where that passage went. I guess thats the risk of having too many windows open at once. lol. My apologies.
A caliphate is a political system that adheres to the full implementation of Islamic laws and tenets. The sovereignty in this systems doesn't belong to a king or institution or a person, but it only belongs to Allah/God being the only legislator. Sharia give us details about how the rulers should govern, and the rulers are checked and balanced by the Scholars/Ulama, that his legitimacy as a ruler comes only from how he follows the Islamic laws and tenets. If the rulers violate such tenets he may impeached by Ulama/Scholars whom also reflect the public sentiments about this ruler. In the modern nation state, the sovereignty belongs to the king, like Britain, or people like popular democracy which delegated sovereignty representatives whom composed of individuals or groups. When sovereignty belongs to a king or representatives regardless of how much check and balance measures you have, it can easily be manipulated or corrupted or co-opted, but you cannot co-opted institutions or laws that directly comes from Allah/God, because, you cannot violate or change Allah legislation without being ousted. The atheist secular state of Britain just crowned its king with medieval period ceremony, and no one objected or said a word, so a Caliphate isn't out of fashion. Also, Britain still have power over the British commonwealth. So, why Muslims shouldn't have theirs own state, especially for being a religious conservative community that won't accept the liberal materialistic degenerate agenda. The future of the nation state is uncertain, what next is the Civilizational-based state or ungoverned spaces, I suggest to read The Clash of Civilizations by Samuel P. Huntington and Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin for more political imagination. The global warming and its calamities will impede the ability of the current nation state to impose control everywhere creating an opportunity for Muslims around the world to create their own state. So, yes Muslims won't survive without a state that represent them globally.
Sovereignty should always belong to the people. Not a small group of unelected people eg. scholars, political or military leaders etc who impose their own political, social and economic views on the populace through their own individual understanding of Islam. Muslims are a billion-strong and a diverse group where there are different views on micro (eg. are prawns halal) to macro (should interest in economic transactions be permitted) issues. Secular democratic systems allow the public to have their say and some influence on pulic matters. Even flawed democracies with weak institutions like Bangladesh, Turkey Indonesia, Malaysia, Bosnia and Pakistan have massive public engagement with the political process. Some vibrant free media and courts that sometimes hold the powerful to account. Most people in those countries would never agree to give up their sovereignty, resources and political autonomy to a Caliph. Look at Syria and its civil war to see what would happen if you impose a system. If you have to rely on global catastrophe Mad Max scenario where we de-evolve in terms of our economy, technology and rights to have your Caliphate then what more need I say about the inferiority of such a system?
@@ankhmorpok1497 Muslim scholars aren't uneducated people, you should learn more about Islam, and being Muslim means that you are already familiar with Islamic laws since it is a prerequisite to become a better Muslim so you can conduct your thoughts and behaviors in serving of Allah. On contrary to the western model, where people are mostly ignorant of their laws, this Western model is pretty new that democracy is only 50 years old or less there, if you think about WW2!!!, in the western model, a few powerful people with control of public opinions venues and security apparatuses and economy can shape the public into whatever the believe is right, and you can see what these deviant ruling elites do by imposing their rainbow freaks agenda. The caliphate model survived for 1200 years longer than the Roman empire, democracy in the West is only resurrected after was abolished for 2000 years when Sparta occupied Athens, and only resurrected 200 years ago, so I think Muslim can resurrect their Caliphate after a 100 years of its last one!!, although the Roman model survived in the western countries in its laws and institutions. So, why Muslims cannot have their own state?! do you know that Israel defines itself as a Jewish state and it uphold their Judaic laws(Halakha) there, why it is good for them but not for us?!
@@ankhmorpok1497 If you want to have a good understanding of what does Islamic laws mean and how it works, I recommend to read Wael Hallq's book, An Introduction to Islamic Law. The book debunked all the misconceptions about Islamic Laws and it shows its superiority.
@@ankhmorpok1497if you think sovereignty does belong to the people, you are not even a Muslim! Allah is the Creator, the one who owns everything and has every right to legislate as He likes.
@@BlueBlue23- isn't your thesis that God is sovereign on earth overblown? Except for the Prophet when did God legislate directly? And if He didn't who decided which laws to legislate and enforce?
Asalaamualiakum wrbtu Would it be correct to think that a Caliphate comes into existence and is maintained by the Shariah being given the force of law and implemented.
The Ahmadis have had a khalifah for over a hundred years and progressed far more, relatively speaking, than the other 72 sects. The general Muslims are debating something that is glaringly obvious and apparent. May Allah guide us all.
@@BlueBlue23 yeah sure they don’t just like the human race doesn’t have a round earth. Pandering to conspiracy theories will leave you behind whilst a jamaat seemingly surrounded on all sides by its opponents continues to progress leaving malicious mullahs jealous and scratching their heads as to why the Ahmadi jamaat grows. We don’t buy the lies of the non-Ahmadiyyat Muslim opponents anymore. The Ahmadiyyat jamaat is divinely guided for all to see. We are all answerable for our decisions on the day of qiyamat so be ready for the Day when you will be asked if you pledged allegiance to those Allah alone has rightly guided.
You misunderstood khilafah and khaleef the qadianis call their leader a khaleef, this has no bearing to the islamic Khaleef, who has to be Muslim in the first instance. Also needs to govern a land. The qadiani have no land, and are reliant on the British government for it to prosper
@@BlueBlue23- the Ahmadis might not have an orthodox version of Islam and they might not have a world changing movement, but where they beat the majority of Muslims is in their morals which appear attractive to outsiders, particularly when contrasted against the large number of immoral Muslims led by treacherous scholars in league with the disgusting autocratic governments of the Muslim-majority countries.
He was aksed a simple question that how can an ordinary Muslims perform his duties towards the fard al ayn and uthman response was very vague that he shoukd fulfill their communal obligations. Doesn't that sound too vague. This has been the problem with people like uthman badar provoating unicorn approach like caliphate in today's time and age but they don't have any experience or way forward for practicality
watching the chinese spreading all over the world via through their "chinatown" could be the example where our mosque play its governance role for each township/community
Prophethood shall remain amongst you for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. Then Khilafat will be established in the precepts of prophethood which will last for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. Oppressive kingship will follow [which will inflict great pain and misery on its subjects]. Its rule will last for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. After this, tyrannical monarchy will follow. Their rule will last for as long as Allah wills. Allah will then cause it to end. Khilafat will then be re-established in the precepts of Prophethood. Thereafter, the Holy Prophetsa became silent [and added no more comments]. Mishkat al-Masabih, Kitab al-Riqaaq
I do not see a global caliphate possible in the times we live in. But if there was a global caliphate (just like the Vatican of the Catholics), it would be very useful, this institution could prevent the confusion and disorder in the Islamic world.
‘There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting rule (ملكًا عاضًا) for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive rule (ملكًا جبرية) for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method.’
@ahmad94720 sorry it will not happen why would the western world and other first world countries want digress and go back to the dark ages instead of continuing moving ahead in science medicine tech human equality to a dark ages law
@@beeko593they are not a caliphate and the rely on western countries and China and most of their money comes from non muslims tourism business deals not from muslim countries same for Saudi Arabia Indonesia Malaysia etc
I'd also be interested in considering the takeover of lands by Muslims in the past for example when Jerusalem fell Saladin took it 100 years later. He was present at the right time at the right place with the right set of conditions so he was able to take it. This is not taking anything away from him but it wasn't just one man. The Ottoman state came together in 1299 and the ottomans conquered constantinopal a 150 years later. It wasn't a one day job. They failed miserably many times so we mustn't think in the short term we mustn't think of establishing Khalifa within 10 years or 20 years. You can also argue the fact that since Jerusalem was under the the Muslim Mamluks, it gave further rise and power to the ottomans as they did not have to worry about concrete already conquered lands. Likewise we should work on expanding by piecemeal, e.g. Supporting pakistan, Turkey and the likes.
*We can all agree that these matters should be handled by scholars. I have a sincere question though... What if we live in a world where prominent scholars are being jailed merely for speaking haqq and advising the rulers? Why are you not recognizing this current problem?**It's been three years since Sheikh Fahd al-Qadi died in Saudi prison due to medical negligence by the authorities.* Sheikh al-Qadi was arrested in 2016 because of a PRIVATE letter of advice he sent to the Saudi Royal Court in which he described violations committed by the Ministry of Education. He was known for his work with the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. *He was sent to prison because he advised the ruler PRIVATELY! What will Madkhalis say next? Advise the rulers in your hearts and dreams.*
Does a swimmer need a massive boulder tied to their feet to swim better? No, they would drown. In the same way, we don't need a Caliphate. Most parts of the world eg. India, Africa and East Asia have massive Muslim populations and have never been ruled bya Caliphate. So it isn't needed.
@@ankhmorpok1497 Your personal opinion is based on what? Your hawa/desires and defeatism? Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant. Hukm- Al-Shari i حكم شرعي is crystal clear about this topic and empirical evidence of continuous existence of caliphate from prophet time until 1924 is more that enough even for ignorant idiots who think their opinion is above إجماع الصحابة Consensus of Sahaba. قال ابن خلدون (في المقدمة): "إن نصب الإمام واجب قد عرف وجوبه في الشرع بإجماع الصحابة والتابعين؛ لأن أصحاب رسول الله ﷺ عند وفاته بادروا إلى بيعة أبي بكر رضي الله عنه وتسليم النظر إليه في أمورهم، وكذا في كل عصر من بعد ذلك ولم يترك الناس فوضى في عصر من الأعصار، واستقر ذلك إجماعا دالا على وجوب نصب الإمام"
If you say you are muslims. Then wear only islamic Dress. Dont grow mustache and manditory to overgrow your beards. And always chant jhikarullah every 2 minutes
*The secular West’s double standards are glaringly evident from how they deal with “irrationality”. When this so-called irrationality is linked with religion it’s a problem. However, when it comes to things like “gender fluidity” it’s completely fine. Another example that can be mentioned is how the “clairvoyant” Edgar Cayce was extremely popular during the early 20th-century.* And it’s the same story when it comes to aliens. The secular West, unable to fight its innate tendency to believe in the ghayb, proposes the likely existence of a non-human species which could communicate with our world - the same way Muslims believe in the jinn! Of course all of this is done in the name of their own religion: science. They even have their own priests in the form of astrobiologists etc. This belief of theirs is of the same nature as ours, even if they try and add some pseudo-empiricist spice: there may be tangible elements pointing towards the existence of aliens. They fail to grasp how we too say there are “tangible elements” regarding the influences of the jinn within our world.*
Last 60 yrs the left over of khalifa. Have failed in science economic and all type of growth,, compared to other community. Hence today khalifa is outdated idea. Let muslim have healthy competition among themselves.
"The problem isn't that he said "it's better to marry young". It's that he said, "women age like milk". That's just a horrible thing to say to a woman. Why could he not approach it with care like the Prophet (saw) would?" ****** ****** ****** Oh no! Are women's feelings hurt?!!! Are they going to cry?!!! Oh heavens noo! ANYthing but that!!! Nooooooooo!!!!!! You're right. We should approach things with care like the Prophet ﷺ, like when he said, "Women are the majority in hell," and, "I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)."
The Muslims. The worshippers of Allah desperately need a leader. That can be a country. Pakistan had the location and population, but it’s an embarrassment for every Muslim. Maybe one day when Israel collapses, Egypt could give hope.
What about the Hadith says ' there will be Khulefai Rashidun 30 years after me then Kings will come.." Caliphate cannot be a single person, it can only be a committee selected by all muslims around the world. Not only the muslim majority nations, but also the muslim minority in the western countries must have a say. We know from history after Ali B. Abi Talib RA, bulk of the rulers of islamic states did not deserve the title of 'imam al adil' So the fate of Ummah can not be decided by a single person. First of all, this is impossible! any effort to establish this kind of caliphate will just divide ummah ! Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran , all of them claim that it is their right to be the leader of Ummah and it seems that none of them will obey the other.. The only way is that Mulim nations and representatives of muslims in western countries must raise their voice to be more effective in OIC and it can be used as a platform to promote a fairer world.
According to hadith in Bukhari & Muslim there will be many khulfa and you should obey them. The one you are quoting indicates other thing than what people understand. Caliphate remained for 1300 years and all fuqha agreed.
Secularism means " shirk " in Arabic meaning partnership And the secularists are " Mushrik " in Arabic meaning they who ascribe partners to Allah in worship That is because the law making process of secular democratic constitutional states that they do not accept legal offerings from the Qur'an Their laws and law making process is driven from their founding fathers and alike like the Napoleon's code of which many European nations follow Your Lord Allah advises you as follows ; The Pilgrimage , Chapter 22 , Revealed at Al-Madinah by The Holy Spirit ( Angel Gabriel) to the Prophet Muhammad in the early 7th century : In the name of Allah The Beneficent The Merciful : 31. Turning unto Allah only , not ascribing partners unto Him ; for whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah , it is as if he had fallen from the sky and the birds had snatched him or the wind had blown him to a far - off place . The Glorious Qur'an
The answer is no. There are events and happenings in the Glorious Qur'an that have taken place in the world after the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad a.s and His legacy , I have proofs of such in verses , like the invention of the motor car , industry, technology, landing on the moon ,copernicus , space exploration which are mentioned in the Glorious Qur'an You need a Khalifa
With nationalism, different sects,racism in Muslims, and allying with non Muslims especially Israel and America then forget about the caliphate. It won't happen, infact the opposite is what will happen
When it is your "what will happen" vs. "He will certainly grant them succession in the land"(24:55) those who believe in the entirety of Islam and work for the entirety of Islam will choose the latter.
Didn't get time yet to finish listening.. The white elephant in the room is the return of rightful leadership from Quraysh, the person named Muhammed ibn Abdullah, may Allah bless him. Yes that's right the Mahdi. It's time to generate the people who would support him and surround him. If this scholar here didn't mention the Mahdi then it shows something is seriously lacking (though it's actually a veritable sign of the impending time).
I used to be a hindu and then became an atheist but neither hinduism nor atheism made any sense to me. After intensive and thorough research, I found the truth in Islam and accepted it, Alhamdulillah !!
God bless you brother
As Salaam Allaykum my brother!
Prey to Allah that your success here and after that, because you choose the real relegion and hope start implementing everything as per order by creater and follow the massenger of Allah Md swa
@@mukhtarmohammadhossainhoss4726 you made a typo ya akhi, it should be 'pray'. May Allah bless you.
Al hamdoulillah❤
May Allah bless us with a re established Islamic society in our lifetime, and a caliphah that can govern. Ameen.
This conversation is a testament to the thought-provoking content that The Thinking Muslim continues to produce. Dr. Uthman Badar's insights on the notion of a caliphate, and its relevance in our contemporary era of nation-states, were nothing short of enlightening.
As Muslims, our faith guides us through the complexities of modern society, and these kinds of discussions, though challenging, are crucial for our intellectual and spiritual growth. Dr. Badar's scholarly perspective, backed by his deep understanding of Philosophy and Islamic studies, shines a fresh light on the issue.
His analysis of a post-nation state system to resolve some of the most pressing challenges faced by the Muslim ummah offers a unique perspective. This indeed stirs the thought that even if the world is moving towards individual nation-states, there might still be room for unified efforts under a spiritual banner to address these intractable problems.
As we navigate these complicated times, we should indeed consider all options, utilize our resources, and channel our potential for the betterment of the ummah. The dialogue Dr. Badar initiates here sparks contemplation and shows us the importance of engaging in such discourse. Looking forward to more of such enlightening content from The Thinking Muslim.
Peace and blessings to all. 🌙✨
Assalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh
so do you support a caliphate? and should this caliphate aim to conquer the world for Islam, for the 'law of allah' to rule?
Even a start-up company has CEO. Point to me a FORTUNE 500 company without a CEO. When it comes to money these people recognise the importance of long-term leadership, direction and devotion, but when it comes to running the affairs OF THE LARGEST RELIGIOUS GROUP IN THE WORLD. People are suddenly like "oh there's no need for leadership".
Either they're evil or ignorant.
How many Muslims have been murdered since our last Caliph? How many lands invaded? How many injustices have we faced.
We believed the rhetoric of the hypocrites once, look where it took us. Never will we believe it again.
Most Muslims have died at the hands of other Muslims lol, not non-muslims
Alhamdulillah this channel is growing. The last few videos released have been very interesting contemporary topics addressing key issues in the Islamosophere. Keep up the good work.
do you think you need a caliphate?
@@mikemalzahnyup
@@mikemalzahnThere is a Ijmaa of Schoolars that say we need a Caliphate.
The brother in the video mentioned some amd I have a large list of schoolars that say the same.
So yes, we defenitly need a caliphate.
@@Salahudin-Islam ok. once you have a caliphate will you conquer the kufr nations that refuse to become Muslims?
@@mikemalzahn yes ofcause. The Islam has come to rule all over the world. But the Futuhaad (opening the lands for the Islam) will not be done like the crusades warfare or the warfare of the USA nowadays. It would b done in a hole different way so that the nations will love to come under islamic rule. Like in the past when nations accepted islam after they got to know what islam looks like when it is established in a state.
Been watching you for a while now. Appreciate the very well informed guests. You definitely have made yourself stand out from the rest of the Islamic podcasts
The Messenger of Allah, The Prophet Muhammad a.s has said : Allah will help to bring a renewal for this religion of islam every 100 years
This is a narration from a 15th century earlier than our time now and which I support to actualize in the modern world
ما شاء الله هذه القناة تنقل رأي الشارع الاسلامي بين الحكومات الاسلاميه ❤❤
بارك الله فيكم و حماكم بإذنه
*We can all agree that these matters should be handled by scholars. I have a sincere question though... What if we live in a world where prominent scholars are being jailed merely for speaking haqq and advising the rulers? Why are you not recognizing this current problem?**It's been three years since Sheikh Fahd al-Qadi died in Saudi prison due to medical negligence by the authorities.*
Sheikh al-Qadi was arrested in 2016 because of a PRIVATE letter of advice he sent to the Saudi Royal Court in which he described violations committed by the Ministry of Education.
He was known for his work with the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
*He was sent to prison because he advised the ruler PRIVATELY! What will Madkhalis say next? Advise the rulers in your hearts and dreams.*
It's one of the best youtube channels.
And also wonderful topics that are chosen must have to be applauded
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Follow you from Somalia.
May Allah Bless you to become the voice of today's voiceless, the Muslim Ummah.
May Allah unite us soon - our warm salams to our special brothers and sisters in Somalia. Would love to have a show on the situation there.
@@TheThinkingMuslim
We are having 30 year long difficulties in conceptualizing and proceessing the Western invented Nation State system of Government. Thus, Somalia is a failed State today and as such under UN Chapter #7 in perpetuity.
We pray for the return of the savior, the uniter of the Ummah, the Khalifah (Caliphate).
You could invite Mohammed Artan, he's a British-Somali, specialist of the Horn of Africa islamic history
@@Sunfyre45 jzk
Clique?? I really wish you would not characterize the idea of Islam being a way of life as a "Clique". It is not a Clique, its the reality.
This is quickly turning into one of the foremost channels in ummatic thinking in the English language, keep up the great work 😊
Much needed Intellectual discussions.
Some points very beautifully constructed & explained by Br. Uthman.
love your videos, just a recommendation can you do a video about muslim brotherhood and its fall
It is right that an intelligent person does not undervalue three [types of people]: the scholars, the rulers, and [his Muslim] brothers. Whoever undervalues the scholars will lose his afterlife, whoever undervalues the rulers will lose his worldly life, and whoever undervalues his brothers loses his good character and conduct.
Philosophers often undervalue traditional scholars. 😢
Unfortunately 99% of scholars today have sold their deen for money, fame and position. Look at the celebrity jew worshiping mufti menk (la’natullah alayh).
yes! bow down to your leader! even if he is a black ethiopian slave with the head of a raisin! (hadiths)
Muslim Feminists: Khadija was an empowered businesswoman, and Aisha was a university professor and a teacher for men. We must follow the example of the mothers of the believers.
{And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance...}
ال{وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَى...
"Muslim" Feminists also:
No, we don't have to follow this orders. It is not ours; It is for mothers of believers only.
Really good topic, i think the idea has started to become a secondary issue in the minds of the Muslims, and should fill a higher level in our efforts
The Saudi scholars make it like that.
One of the most burning topics of our times...more aspects could have been discussed..cheers 🎉
What, as important as issues like putting food on the table, looking after your elders or bringing up your children to be good mumin musolman?
This Caliphate obsession amongst political activists does nothing to help the bad situation of Muslims worldwide. All this hypothetical imperialistic and aggressive hyperventilating about gaining political power does is give ammunition to the far right. The Caliphates of old were merely empires where the local leader used religion to legitimise their rule. Most Muslims of their time did not recognise their claims. There was little religious about it. The Ottomans didn't even do Hajj. Ever.
The Saudis 🇸🇦 won't like this video 😔
I wish Dr Uthman Badar would be come the ummah caliphate InshaAllah.
Excellent well balanced discussion. JazakAllahokhairun
I strongly believe that it is imperative for me as a Muslim to challenge the current unbelieving nations and their leaders with the best arguments of the Glorious Qur'an to prove them that Allah is still Greater and still Merciful towards them and at the same time I would unite my sheep
@abdullahozek8016
The Qur'an ain't glorious. It is not even "preserved". Please stop your delusion.
@@paulthomas281
The Qur'an has been preserved by Allah !
The Glorious Qur'an
@@abdullahozek8016 What do you mean exactly by "preserved"?
@@paulthomas281
The Qur'an has been kept safe and in good condition
@@abdullahozek8016 Wow, that was informative!
Baarakallahu feekum
A good interview with very good questions. Thank you.
Brother Uthman good to hear you again.
I fail to understand why Muslims don’t see Afghanistan where the . لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله flag is flying start point. Help the country to proper because only place in this earth today 100% islam is being practiced.
The meaning of Allahumma arinal haqqa Haq is O Allah! show us the truth as true, and inspire us to follow it. Show us falsehood as falsehood, and inspire us to abstain from it.
Afghans will lead it, Insha’Allah.
@1zy lead what to not allowing women to be educated living in the dark ages many women and girls committing suicide. Young girls forced to marry much older men stoning is back yeah what a wonderful life Afghanis are living
In afghanistan the shariah is not implemented 100%. Taliban had the chance to reestablish the Caliphate (Al-Khilāfah) but founded a ,,emirate". In islam there is no thing like an ,,emirate".
Also when 1 mio. of the Uighur brothers who are in contentration camps in china asked the emirate of afganistan for help they respondet that they do not interfear in inner political afairs of souverane states like china.
This is not what Islam tells us to do.
Also they ecept the colonial man-made country borders in the islamic world which also is not what islam teaches us.
Thank you!
Muslim PhD student in economics here. Waiting for your research grants so I can apply lol
Would be wonderful for you to make contact with us through our site, thinkingmuslim.com
@@TheThinkingMuslim- interesting discussion, but is the Caliphate really the most pressing matter facing Muslims or is their lack of connection to and understanding of the Qur'an a much bigger problem? Why does anyone expect the Muslims to strive to resurrect the Caliphate if they don't firstly grasp the basis of their belief because they are alienated from their core religious instructions?
Let me make this entire video simple. Answer is no, we cant live proper islamically without a caliphate
Haq
It is sad
Have you seen the war between Russian and Ukraine..
The forces are between two Muslims army 😢
We can do namaz, ruza and give zakat. What can you do under a Caliphate that you can't under a nation state in terms of religious practice?
@@ankhmorpok1497 we can have education systems in place in a calphate offering free education at all levels as was the practice of some islamic caliphates in the past, also those education systems would not be susceptible to ideological attacks by lgbt because they’re officially sanctioned by the islamic caliphate. Also there would be no medical industrial complex forcing children to get surgeries to change their gender because obviously this is not islamic. The media apparatus of the caliphate would broadcast islamic content and ban kufr ideas that are causing depression anxiety social ailments such as porn, etc. The problems we see in todays kufr systems are a result of the absence of a caliphate
@@ankhmorpok1497 *The secular West’s double standards are glaringly evident from how they deal with “irrationality”. When this so-called irrationality is linked with religion it’s a problem. However, when it comes to things like “gender fluidity” it’s completely fine. Another example that can be mentioned is how the “clairvoyant” Edgar Cayce was extremely popular during the early 20th-century.*
And it’s the same story when it comes to aliens. The secular West, unable to fight its innate tendency to believe in the ghayb, proposes the likely existence of a non-human species which could communicate with our world - the same way Muslims believe in the jinn!
Of course all of this is done in the name of their own religion: science. They even have their own priests in the form of astrobiologists etc.
This belief of theirs is of the same nature as ours, even if they try and add some pseudo-empiricist spice: there may be tangible elements pointing towards the existence of aliens. They fail to grasp how we too say there are “tangible elements” regarding the influences of the jinn within our world.*
Please invite someone from Hezb Tahrir since they are largest group of Muslims with a lot of supporters and very intellectual personalities. The are working for Caliphate
Who are they
@@na-mj2xj they are the only non violent group in the Muslim world who has millions of members all around the world with concrete Caliphate knowledge and strong Aqeedah who are the only hope for Muslim ummah to establish Caliphate
Absolutely enjoyed this discussion. I’d join his book club if he has one
Allah said : " I will create a Khalifa "
The Glorious Qur'an
That was the will of Allah and what a wonderful virtue it is to become a Khalifa to the Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to some of the speakers opinions, which were not hard hitting unrealistic caliphate evangelism.
I do think the question of Fard Kifaaya needs to be widely understood. It's unfair to place responsibility on the mother drowned in debt and children or the illiterate worker doing just enough to feed his family.
The repsonbility falls upon those who are in such positions, then those who are capable, then those around them to engage and pretest change.
We often say the whole community is to blame, relinquishing repsonbility from the Ulema and Muslim leaders.
We owe them our allegiance but not a blueprint.
عن عبد الله بن عمرو بن العاص رضي الله عنهما ، قال: سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول: «إنَّ اللهَ لاَ يَقْبِضُ العِلْمَ انْتِزَاعاً يَنْتَزعهُ مِنَ النَّاسِ، وَلكِنْ يَقْبِضُ العِلْمَ بِقَبْضِ العُلَمَاءِ، حَتَّى إِذَا لَمْ يُبْقِ عَالِماً، اتَّخَذَ النَّاسُ رُؤُوساً جُهَّالاً، فَسُئِلُوا فَأفْتوا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ، فَضَلُّوا وَأضَلُّوا»
This hadith sums up my thoughts on this video. What a sad state of affairs we are in. Islam is simple to understand and those with deep knowledge don't confuse while explaining it. A clear sign of someone who doesn't have understanding is he confuses, in my opinion. The hadith states, my translation, "the Prophet SAW said verily Allah SWT doesn't seize knowledge by removing it from the people but instead he seizes it by taking the souls of those with knowledge until the people take ignorant people as their heads, they then make verdicts without knowledge there upon people are miss guided and miss guide others." It not that people don't have knowledge around at that moment, just that no one takes them seriously and people start taking wafflers too seriously and ignoring those with knowledge, after those who were scholarly (knowledgeable) and recognized as scholars passed. SAD
جزاک اللہ خیرا
We never had a united Muslim role except during the tone of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and the khilafah-e-rashideen upon whom Allah is pleased. And even the last ottoman one was dystopic with Ottoman putting mentally deficient relatives under house arrest. The tanzinat reforms. Mu'awiyyah upon whom Allah is pleased rebellion against Ali upon whom Allah is pleased. The Seljuks and Ayubids. There have always been multiple Muslim dynasties at the same time that were distinct from each other.
The best way to go is an EU type union
They best way is always how the messenger sallahu alihi wa salam did it not eu or anything
Excellent discussion - جزاك الله خيرا
Mashallah you got our brother from downunder utman badar mashallah
It's ironic how the madkhalis fulfil the trait of the true khawarij, 1) they'll be from our ppl 2) harsh against the Muslims merciful towards the kufar 3) the Quran doesn't leave their throats..
CHRIST IS KING!!!
Calipha = King = Ruler = Administrator.
Main problem is our own ability to divide ourself.
And our disability to UNITE AS MUSLIM . We need no other title , as Salaf, Sufi,Shia, Ahmadi or Alawi , all we need is one title of MUSLIM .
Our ultimate goal must be to work unitedly with Muslims and with Christians, Jews and Hindus .
Just like it was done in Iraq and Spain .
Br. Jalal, you need to interview sh.Usta on the obligation of a Caliphate.
When the Abbasid Caliph was under permanent house arrest under his own semi-pagan Turkic slaves, what was the point of the Caliph?
Or when the qaramita managed to sack Makkah, steal the black stone, shatter it and keep it for 21 years, while the Caliph al Muqtadir was too busy with wine, music and the harem to actually bother governing. Resulting in the restoration of alMutadidto be replaced with feudalism.
Allowing the Shia daylamite mountain tribes to make the Caliph their puppet, followed by the semi-pagan nomadic Turks from the Aral sea for over a century. And the Fatimids and Cordoba made their own caliphates, diluting the title.
And al Mamun a so called 'Sunni' Caliph was a Shi'ite Mutazilite. Under some Umayyad Caliphs atrocities were committed against the family of the prophet... Many other caliphs were men of no moral standing... What is the point of a faasiq, drunkard, potentially homosexual (Walid ii, Al Amin) who knows so little about Islam, being the head of the Muslim world?
When Salahudin took Egypt he took the title of Khaadim alHaramain ashSharifayn. And he ensured his Hajj delegation entered Makkah before the Caliphs. Clearly showing the lack of concern for the Caliph.
The Caliph, "head of the Muslim world" also sent almost no support whatsoever to fight against the Crusaders, despite having ousted the Seljuks from Iraq. If he isn't helping against Crusaders, far worse than Israel, What's the point of him?
Then the Mongols killed the Caliph, with nobody coming to his aid, depsite his pleas.
Then the Mamluk slaves created a Cairo Caliphate. However he was more powerless then ever. Only brought out when the Mamluks needed him for a slight legitimacy boost.
While the Mamluk sultans kept Khaadim alHaramain for themselves, showing they viewed that title as more important.
There is dispute how and when the Ottoman took the title of Caliph. And even then they rarely used the title, mainly against the Moroccans who disregarded the Ottoman claim, since teh Moroccans were Sharifan.
The title only really began to be used after the Ottomans lost Crimea in 1774.
But the modern concept comes more from Abdulhamid ii attempt at uniting the Muslim world against the colonists.
Finally the fall of the Caliphate left a hole in the Muslim world. Leading to a recent Caliphate resurgence within Muslim minds.
But ever since the Anarchy at Samarra in 861, the Caliph was weak and powerless.
And ever since the end of the Mihna, the Caliph lost all religious/judicial power to the scholars.
I feel like many of us have a very naïve concept of Caliphate.
But still when caliphate exist people have direction
Have you seen what happened between Russian and Ukraine or Germany and alliance forces
Muslims are fighting each
If there's caliphate people will united whether caliph pious or not
The ultimate goal is unity
Look at the world muslim are killing each other
Excellent reality check
جزاك الله خيرا
Jazakallah khair, although I may disagree with some of your framing, many Muslim historians would question your point about when the caliphate title was adopted by the Ottomans - - I think your broader point of not over-romanticising history is so important. That said, one has to survey Islam’s long history without allowing the aberrations and excesses to blinker our assessment. The period of the Sahabah was full of challenges, yet most Muslims are able to observe that Islam cam not for angels but for human beings.
I value your comments and hope to engage further brother. MJ
@@TheThinkingMuslim I think its important to distinguish between historians and activists. The historical record does not conflict with the revealed texts, which state that the caliphate ended 30 years after the Prophet's ﷺ passing, whereafter the umma was ruled by dynastic succession - exactly as he ﷺ foretold.
What we’re seeing in the last 100 years or so is a back-projection by activists of an ahistoric, romanticized conception of the caliphate. This is similar to how Christian evangelists will reframe the historical Jesus to confirm to their pre-conceived theology which was developed centuries after the fact.
As regards the Ottomans specifically, the reality is, as was mentioned above, that it was largely following the treaty of Küçük Kaynarca in 1774 that the Porte instituted a trans-sultanate, papal-esque caliphal role as consolation for the loss of Black Sea coastal territories. AbdulHamid II similarly invoked a spiritual caliphal office to garner international “ummatic” support in light of the crises he was having to deal with.
But outside such episodes, the archives make it clear that it was the Chingisid bloodline that the Ottomans sought legitimacy through, not the Islamic institution of the khilafa. In fact, their Maturidi creed precluded them from claiming the caliphate in a real, religious sense. For the the bulk of their history, when the house of Osman did wear the caliphal crown, they do so ceremonially.
@KnowledgeNorth lots of issues with your comment, there are many assumptions, strawmanning and sectarianism. Assumptions are despite the history and for arguments sake let's take your narrative, then this has no issue with if the system is based on Islam ie Khilafah, sultanate, amperage etc. These terms are synonymous. Rulership by kingship doesn't negate the khilfah, as long as the leader gains bayah from the ahle wall al aqd. The issue of being matarudi, ashari or atteri.. by consensus all recognise as being Muslim. So once again strawman.
Allah said to David the King of Israel : " O David ! We have appointed you as a Khalifa over mankind.."
The Glorious Qur'an
This needs to be translated and reach everyone
Love the show but this type of topics always leaves me perplexed because remains so theoretical at the end of the day despite the goodwill of the honorable guest(s)
With this being said, Dr Badar is an absolute gem and the go-to person on this topic for me. His speech on "God and his prophets must be protected from insult" is a masterclass of rhetoric. God protect you both!
isue khilafah terus makin kekinian semakin bbersinar seiring keingintahuan masyarakat dunia saat ini BRAVO khilafah islamiyah.takbir ! Allahu Akbar.🤠😎🌏👨🎓
Only muslims want a caliphate no one else
The most frequently expressed complaint men have about women is that, women are always trying to change them. When a woman loves man, she feels responsible to assist him growing, try to help him improve the way he does things. She forms the home improvement committee and he becomes her primary focus. No matter how much he resist her help, she persists. Waiting for an opportunity to help him or tell him what to do. She thinks she's nurturing him while he feels he's being controlled, instead he wants her acceptance.
The most frequently expressed complaint women have about men is that men don't listen. Either man completely ignores her when she speaks or he listens for few beats, assesses what bothering her and then he proudly puts on his mr fix-it hat and offer her a solution to make her feel better. No matter how many times she tells him that he's not listening, he doesn't get it and he keeps doing the same thing. She wants empathy. He thinks she wants solutions.
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Short answer No, long answer Noo
😂😂😂 then how the UAE can?
You Asian Muslims are slave to China. Economically
Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allāh. So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved - unto Hell they will be gathered.
Qur'aan [8:36]
We need caliphate
Have any of you seen what happened between Russian and Ukraine or Germany and alliance forces
Muslims are fighting each other 😢
Allah has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islam). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).
(Surah an-nur verse 55 - 24:55)
@@KnowledgeNorth are u talking to me? Bruh I’m quoting the quran
@@KnowledgeNorth takfir is part of the deen, and it’s scholars job to make takfir not the layman
@@Iamfsaly Oops. Sorry bro. That wasn't meant for you. I was wondering where that passage went. I guess thats the risk of having too many windows open at once. lol. My apologies.
Amin
I believe in the Promise of Allah
Interesting 🎉
Work Whit Hizbut Tahrir to establish the Khilafah
We want Ummatics in Pakistan 🇵🇰
Sirs, caliphates mean muslim fighting muslims. And now there will be 50 + caliphates,so it is going to be real grand spectacle.
A caliphate is a political system that adheres to the full implementation of Islamic laws and tenets. The sovereignty in this systems doesn't belong to a king or institution or a person, but it only belongs to Allah/God being the only legislator. Sharia give us details about how the rulers should govern, and the rulers are checked and balanced by the Scholars/Ulama, that his legitimacy as a ruler comes only from how he follows the Islamic laws and tenets. If the rulers violate such tenets he may impeached by Ulama/Scholars whom also reflect the public sentiments about this ruler. In the modern nation state, the sovereignty belongs to the king, like Britain, or people like popular democracy which delegated sovereignty representatives whom composed of individuals or groups. When sovereignty belongs to a king or representatives regardless of how much check and balance measures you have, it can easily be manipulated or corrupted or co-opted, but you cannot co-opted institutions or laws that directly comes from Allah/God, because, you cannot violate or change Allah legislation without being ousted.
The atheist secular state of Britain just crowned its king with medieval period ceremony, and no one objected or said a word, so a Caliphate isn't out of fashion. Also, Britain still have power over the British commonwealth. So, why Muslims shouldn't have theirs own state, especially for being a religious conservative community that won't accept the liberal materialistic degenerate agenda. The future of the nation state is uncertain, what next is the Civilizational-based state or ungoverned spaces, I suggest to read The Clash of Civilizations by Samuel P. Huntington and Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin for more political imagination. The global warming and its calamities will impede the ability of the current nation state to impose control everywhere creating an opportunity for Muslims around the world to create their own state. So, yes Muslims won't survive without a state that represent them globally.
Sovereignty should always belong to the people. Not a small group of unelected people eg. scholars, political or military leaders etc who impose their own political, social and economic views on the populace through their own individual understanding of Islam. Muslims are a billion-strong and a diverse group where there are different views on micro (eg. are prawns halal) to macro (should interest in economic transactions be permitted) issues. Secular democratic systems allow the public to have their say and some influence on pulic matters.
Even flawed democracies with weak institutions like Bangladesh, Turkey Indonesia, Malaysia, Bosnia and Pakistan have massive public engagement with the political process. Some vibrant free media and courts that sometimes hold the powerful to account. Most people in those countries would never agree to give up their sovereignty, resources and political autonomy to a Caliph. Look at Syria and its civil war to see what would happen if you impose a system. If you have to rely on global catastrophe Mad Max scenario where we de-evolve in terms of our economy, technology and rights to have your Caliphate then what more need I say about the inferiority of such a system?
@@ankhmorpok1497 Muslim scholars aren't uneducated people, you should learn more about Islam, and being Muslim means that you are already familiar with Islamic laws since it is a prerequisite to become a better Muslim so you can conduct your thoughts and behaviors in serving of Allah. On contrary to the western model, where people are mostly ignorant of their laws, this Western model is pretty new that democracy is only 50 years old or less there, if you think about WW2!!!, in the western model, a few powerful people with control of public opinions venues and security apparatuses and economy can shape the public into whatever the believe is right, and you can see what these deviant ruling elites do by imposing their rainbow freaks agenda. The caliphate model survived for 1200 years longer than the Roman empire, democracy in the West is only resurrected after was abolished for 2000 years when Sparta occupied Athens, and only resurrected 200 years ago, so I think Muslim can resurrect their Caliphate after a 100 years of its last one!!, although the Roman model survived in the western countries in its laws and institutions. So, why Muslims cannot have their own state?! do you know that Israel defines itself as a Jewish state and it uphold their Judaic laws(Halakha) there, why it is good for them but not for us?!
@@ankhmorpok1497 If you want to have a good understanding of what does Islamic laws mean and how it works, I recommend to read Wael Hallq's book, An Introduction to Islamic Law. The book debunked all the misconceptions about Islamic Laws and it shows its superiority.
@@ankhmorpok1497if you think sovereignty does belong to the people, you are not even a Muslim! Allah is the Creator, the one who owns everything and has every right to legislate as He likes.
@@BlueBlue23- isn't your thesis that God is sovereign on earth overblown? Except for the Prophet when did God legislate directly? And if He didn't who decided which laws to legislate and enforce?
Asalaamualiakum wrbtu
Would it be correct to think that a Caliphate comes into existence and is maintained by the Shariah being given the force of law and implemented.
The Ahmadis have had a khalifah for over a hundred years and progressed far more, relatively speaking, than the other 72 sects. The general Muslims are debating something that is glaringly obvious and apparent. May Allah guide us all.
The Ahmadis do not even have Islam!!!
@@BlueBlue23 yeah sure they don’t just like the human race doesn’t have a round earth. Pandering to conspiracy theories will leave you behind whilst a jamaat seemingly surrounded on all sides by its opponents continues to progress leaving malicious mullahs jealous and scratching their heads as to why the Ahmadi jamaat grows. We don’t buy the lies of the non-Ahmadiyyat Muslim opponents anymore. The Ahmadiyyat jamaat is divinely guided for all to see. We are all answerable for our decisions on the day of qiyamat so be ready for the Day when you will be asked if you pledged allegiance to those Allah alone has rightly guided.
You misunderstood khilafah and khaleef the qadianis call their leader a khaleef, this has no bearing to the islamic Khaleef, who has to be Muslim in the first instance. Also needs to govern a land. The qadiani have no land, and are reliant on the British government for it to prosper
The Qadianis have no government & rule over nothing.
@@BlueBlue23- the Ahmadis might not have an orthodox version of Islam and they might not have a world changing movement, but where they beat the majority of Muslims is in their morals which appear attractive to outsiders, particularly when contrasted against the large number of immoral Muslims led by treacherous scholars in league with the disgusting autocratic governments of the Muslim-majority countries.
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He was aksed a simple question that how can an ordinary Muslims perform his duties towards the fard al ayn and uthman response was very vague that he shoukd fulfill their communal obligations. Doesn't that sound too vague. This has been the problem with people like uthman badar provoating unicorn approach like caliphate in today's time and age but they don't have any experience or way forward for practicality
watching the chinese spreading all over the world via through their "chinatown" could be the example where our mosque play its governance role for each township/community
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InshaAllah
Money to contribute towards establishing a regular army and sustaining it is imperative
Prophethood shall remain amongst you for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. Then Khilafat will be established in the precepts of prophethood which will last for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. Oppressive kingship will follow [which will inflict great pain and misery on its subjects]. Its rule will last for as long as Allah wills. He will then cause it to end. After this, tyrannical monarchy will follow. Their rule will last for as long as Allah wills. Allah will then cause it to end. Khilafat will then be re-established in the precepts of Prophethood. Thereafter, the Holy Prophetsa became silent [and added no more comments].
Mishkat al-Masabih, Kitab al-Riqaaq
Amin
I do not see a global caliphate possible in the times we live in. But if there was a global caliphate (just like the Vatican of the Catholics), it would be very useful, this institution could prevent the confusion and disorder in the Islamic world.
‘There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting rule (ملكًا عاضًا) for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive rule (ملكًا جبرية) for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method.’
@ahmad94720 sorry it will not happen why would the western world and other first world countries want digress and go back to the dark ages instead of continuing moving ahead in science medicine tech human equality to a dark ages law
@@chadmonk-po5yjnobody's consent will be needed. It will happen by force if needed
@revivalist355 good luck with that this is not the 7 th century western world has nuclear weapons
@revivalist355 People will fight for their freedoms they ate not ging to lay down and go back to the dark ages
Short answer: no. Long answer: no.
Look the UAE ❤
@@beeko593they are not a caliphate and the rely on western countries and China and most of their money comes from non muslims tourism business deals not from muslim countries same for Saudi Arabia Indonesia Malaysia etc
The Saudis 🇸🇦 and the Madkhalis won't like this videos 😕 😔 😅😅
I'd also be interested in considering the takeover of lands by Muslims in the past for example when Jerusalem fell Saladin took it 100 years later. He was present at the right time at the right place with the right set of conditions so he was able to take it. This is not taking anything away from him but it wasn't just one man. The Ottoman state came together in 1299 and the ottomans conquered constantinopal a 150 years later. It wasn't a one day job. They failed miserably many times so we mustn't think in the short term we mustn't think of establishing Khalifa within 10 years or 20 years. You can also argue the fact that since Jerusalem was under the the Muslim Mamluks, it gave further rise and power to the ottomans as they did not have to worry about concrete already conquered lands.
Likewise we should work on expanding by piecemeal, e.g. Supporting pakistan, Turkey and the likes.
*We can all agree that these matters should be handled by scholars. I have a sincere question though... What if we live in a world where prominent scholars are being jailed merely for speaking haqq and advising the rulers? Why are you not recognizing this current problem?**It's been three years since Sheikh Fahd al-Qadi died in Saudi prison due to medical negligence by the authorities.*
Sheikh al-Qadi was arrested in 2016 because of a PRIVATE letter of advice he sent to the Saudi Royal Court in which he described violations committed by the Ministry of Education.
He was known for his work with the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
*He was sent to prison because he advised the ruler PRIVATELY! What will Madkhalis say next? Advise the rulers in your hearts and dreams.*
Why he look like subbor ahmed? 😅
Exactly the type of discussion needed in this day and age; very informative
Can a car like Ferrari work without an engine? The body and everything else is still Ferrari, but what is Ferrari without an engine
Does a swimmer need a massive boulder tied to their feet to swim better? No, they would drown.
In the same way, we don't need a Caliphate. Most parts of the world eg. India, Africa and East Asia have massive Muslim populations and have never been ruled bya Caliphate. So it isn't needed.
@@ankhmorpok1497 Your personal opinion is based on what? Your hawa/desires and defeatism? Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant. Hukm- Al-Shari i حكم شرعي is crystal clear about this topic and empirical evidence of continuous existence of caliphate from prophet time until 1924 is more that enough even for ignorant idiots who think their opinion is above إجماع الصحابة Consensus of Sahaba. قال ابن خلدون (في المقدمة): "إن نصب الإمام واجب قد عرف وجوبه في الشرع بإجماع الصحابة والتابعين؛ لأن أصحاب رسول الله ﷺ عند وفاته بادروا إلى بيعة أبي بكر رضي الله عنه وتسليم النظر إليه في أمورهم، وكذا في كل عصر من بعد ذلك ولم يترك الناس فوضى في عصر من الأعصار، واستقر ذلك إجماعا دالا على وجوب نصب الإمام"
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ما شاء الله اخي جزاك الله خيرا
1:10:50 Hasaan Albanna
Hizb tahriir
Pakistan
I think the individual obligations will be to serve in the Army of islam
kibbutz communal nuclear family livelihood township/village are similar to our "early Madinah" communal@socioeconomy livelihood
If you say you are muslims. Then wear only islamic Dress. Dont grow mustache and manditory to overgrow your beards. And always chant jhikarullah every 2 minutes
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*The secular West’s double standards are glaringly evident from how they deal with “irrationality”. When this so-called irrationality is linked with religion it’s a problem. However, when it comes to things like “gender fluidity” it’s completely fine. Another example that can be mentioned is how the “clairvoyant” Edgar Cayce was extremely popular during the early 20th-century.*
And it’s the same story when it comes to aliens. The secular West, unable to fight its innate tendency to believe in the ghayb, proposes the likely existence of a non-human species which could communicate with our world - the same way Muslims believe in the jinn!
Of course all of this is done in the name of their own religion: science. They even have their own priests in the form of astrobiologists etc.
This belief of theirs is of the same nature as ours, even if they try and add some pseudo-empiricist spice: there may be tangible elements pointing towards the existence of aliens. They fail to grasp how we too say there are “tangible elements” regarding the influences of the jinn within our world.*
Last 60 yrs the left over of khalifa. Have failed in science economic and all type of growth,, compared to other community.
Hence today khalifa is outdated idea.
Let muslim have healthy competition among themselves.
"The problem isn't that he said "it's better to marry young". It's that he said, "women age like milk".
That's just a horrible thing to say to a woman. Why could he not approach it with care like the Prophet (saw) would?"
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Oh no! Are women's feelings hurt?!!! Are they going to cry?!!! Oh heavens noo! ANYthing but that!!! Nooooooooo!!!!!!
You're right. We should approach things with care like the Prophet ﷺ, like when he said, "Women are the majority in hell," and, "I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)."
The Muslims. The worshippers of Allah desperately need a leader.
That can be a country.
Pakistan had the location and population, but it’s an embarrassment for every Muslim.
Maybe one day when Israel collapses, Egypt could give hope.
Egypt is a land of losers.
I think is more likely to see Afganistan as leader than Egypt.
Uthman we are coevals..
What are you saying..
My brother..
Can you invite Mehdi Hasan
What topic?
1:04:26 Muslims are afraid to talk about caliphates 😭😭😭😭
What about the Hadith says ' there will be Khulefai Rashidun 30 years after me then Kings will come.."
Caliphate cannot be a single person, it can only be a committee selected by all muslims around the world. Not only the muslim majority nations, but also the muslim minority in the western countries must have a say.
We know from history after Ali B. Abi Talib RA, bulk of the rulers of islamic states did not deserve the title of 'imam al adil' So the fate of Ummah can not be decided by a single person. First of all, this is impossible! any effort to establish this kind of caliphate will just divide ummah ! Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran , all of them claim that it is their right to be the leader of Ummah and it seems that none of them will obey the other..
The only way is that Mulim nations and representatives of muslims in western countries must raise their voice to be more effective in OIC and it can be used as a platform to promote a fairer world.
According to hadith in Bukhari & Muslim there will be many khulfa and you should obey them.
The one you are quoting indicates other thing than what people understand. Caliphate remained for 1300 years and all fuqha agreed.
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Secularism means " shirk " in Arabic meaning partnership
And the secularists are " Mushrik " in Arabic meaning they who ascribe partners to Allah in worship
That is because the law making process of secular democratic constitutional states that they do not accept legal offerings from the Qur'an
Their laws and law making process is driven from their founding fathers and alike like the Napoleon's code of which many European nations follow
Your Lord Allah advises you as follows ;
The Pilgrimage , Chapter 22 , Revealed at Al-Madinah by The Holy Spirit ( Angel Gabriel) to the Prophet Muhammad in the early 7th century :
In the name of Allah The Beneficent The Merciful :
31. Turning unto Allah only , not ascribing partners unto Him ; for whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah , it is as if he had fallen from the sky and the birds had snatched him or the wind had blown him to a far - off place .
The Glorious Qur'an
Why not? Look the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Look NEOM
To think that deliverance will come with Caliphate is a very misguided and unislamic proposition.
Are you by any chance a salafi?
The answer is no.
There are events and happenings in the Glorious Qur'an that have taken place in the world after the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad a.s and His legacy ,
I have proofs of such in verses , like the invention of the motor car , industry, technology, landing on the moon ,copernicus , space exploration which are mentioned in the Glorious Qur'an
You need a Khalifa
1:08:57 Teach the fundamentals of Islam 😅😅😅
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With nationalism, different sects,racism in Muslims, and allying with non Muslims especially Israel and America then forget about the caliphate. It won't happen, infact the opposite is what will happen
When it is your "what will happen" vs. "He will certainly grant them succession in the land"(24:55) those who believe in the entirety of Islam and work for the entirety of Islam will choose the latter.
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The white elephant in the room is the return of rightful leadership from Quraysh, the person named Muhammed ibn Abdullah, may Allah bless him. Yes that's right the Mahdi.
It's time to generate the people who would support him and surround him. If this scholar here didn't mention the Mahdi then it shows something is seriously lacking (though it's actually a veritable sign of the impending time).
The guy on the left looks like that paki stani
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