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@mas-udal-hassan9277 That’s not the correct adab to ask the question. Have you watched the podcast? She addresses feminism in it? Also the hadith you mention has to be brought together with all the associated texts on the matter, and that requires a mujtahid to outweigh and understand the evidences. You cannot act, without knowledge, on a solitary hadith. Our deen it based on a rich history of scholarly interpretation. Scholars have written books on the subject of living with non Muslims in non muslim lands after evaluating all of the evidences.
As a muslim , french nationality, with my family, we had to leave France. It has been two years since we left France. Today we are finally breathing the air of freedom.
Very sad unfortunately but expected It reminds me mass exodus of Huguenots ( Protestant) France is right hand of Vatican Britain 🇬🇧 should stay away from France Eu and China
I met sr Lauren in a town hall meeting in a mosque in Texas. She has to be a brave to be a Muslim women. I have a great respect for her just wearing the dress for muslim women. She is a great speaker, journalist and writer. She is a roll model for the muslim women.
Brave to wear the hijab? We aren't brave, it's a blessing and a gift from Allah that shows how precious women are. Unlike western society etc that degrades women.
@@alliyahsgalaxyin some countries, being Muslim is tough due to the pressure and oppression. Brave is not a wrong term to use for those Muslims especially the reverts. It does not help, to discount their bravery in facing the challenges in following Allah's law. Let's not patronise please, especially if we're not on the receiving end of oppression. Let's pray for them to be steadfast in their faith in Allah.
Yes, that is true. But in the West, ie where Lauren Booth comes from, the UK, we are free to wear the hijab most places. Maybe an odd remote village here or there may be difficult. I would say wearing it in India now is very brave, and also Chinese Uyghur's etc. So yes, you could say it is brave. I ultimately see it as a blessing either way from Allah. Being given the bravery is also a blessing from Allah. @@eszeezee6967
@@alliyahsgalaxy jzk sister for your comment. Let’s take our fellow Muslims comments with the best of faith and try to prevent Shaytaan from separating us.
My third comment- absolutely blown by sister Lauren's wisdom. Sister sees the bigger picture and explains the societal ills in such a clear and articulate style. May Allah bless her. As a middle-aged Muslim male, I have learned a great deal from and have given a clear perspective on many things - gender-related and otherwise.
And of course, we don't have any societal ills amongst us Muslims? Unemplyment, underemployment, lack of education, sexual abuse hushed up, cousin marriages, denying women basic rights, involvement in crime higher than our proportion of the UK population. I could go on. Best not to point fingers at others because two other fingers will point right back.
@@lillyrose2514 There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower. Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower. Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
Mashallah, Thankyou for this interview. I saw an interview of sister Booth around the time she became a Muslim. Glad to see she’s doing well Allahamdulliah
Assalamu Alaikum In solidarity with the Muslims in France, especially the girls, I'm wearing an abaya to school. We should support our Muslim brothers and sisters.
Millions of french muslims in France don't want abaya in school. Because they are french like jews or christians and understand the laws. A few young girls didn't understand. They had an explaination and accept. The father of one refused. He went to school and said he was hoing to kill them. A few months ago a teacher was beheaded by the familly for a lesson about freedom of dpeech, Why abaya is a political outfit in France ? It's not a traditionnal outfit from north africa but middle east. During the 10 years of civil war in algeria the FIS committed murders, massacres, attacks and obliged women to wear abayas. In France it began at the same time that djihadism. Woman can wear abaya in France but not in school. Because it's religious. They have to do Like jews or christians or buddhist or other muslims. No teligion in a republic school. Or parents can choose a private school.
Ignorance is the world's worst public enemy, ignorant people are hurting others, as well as themselves, and in the process enabling the evil-intended ones among us.
There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower. Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
@web3982 I confess my ignorance. I never heard from Lauren Booth even one word against the killing of 23 years old Mahsa Amini in Iran for not wearing hijab. Not a word on young sisters killed by own brothers in her beloved Palestine. Of course, not a word on israeli children killed by Hamas on Oct 7. She highly deserves Hamas VIP passeport given to her by Ismail Hanye
Sister Lauren, you have the ability to raise awareness in those who have absolutely no awareness! That in itself is an absolute blessing. May Allah bless you and keep you safe 🤍🌿
Alhumdullilah makes my heart happy to see the success of this page. I remember when it first started. Having like 50-100 views. Not in the thousands. Jazak Allahu khairn brother Mohammed
Very strong point about What we are consuming on internet!! This is why I had to stop watching movies. Especially instagram!! Uploading our photos there is asking people to like us, we begin to beg people for validation instead of being self aware, secure and content in our own skin. We are told we can be “influencers” and earn money. These Are psychological attacks on us that most of us sadly don’t even realise!!!
Its the difference between some irrational Muslim blowing himnself up and killing people over some irrational rubbish about re-establiswhing some Caliphate fantasy to a person wanting to go through gender transition. One involves hurting others and the other is a personal choice. Do you get it now?@mas-udal-hassan9277
I really enjoy seeing Muslim intellectuals and scholars do such talks and interviews. This type of media appeals to a rather different group of people (mainly liberals), and this is why I like it.
Muslim intellectuals 😂 Good one 👍🏾 Ablutions (Wudu') (13)Chapter: The going out of women for answering the call of nature(13)باب خُرُوجِ النِّسَاءِ إِلَى الْبَرَازِ Sahih al-Bukhari 146 Narrated `Aisha: The wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqi` at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. `Umar used to say to the Prophet (ﷺ) "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam`a the wife of the Prophet (ﷺ) went out at `Isha' time and she was a tall lady. `Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).
There were a series of statements from the lady about Muslim women's experiences that are far from reality. There is a reason there is a Western-inspired move to give Muslim women more rights over family life, work, inheritance etc across the Muslim world and not the other way of the West cloistering women at home and discouraging them from working as many of our Mullahs want.
Fascinating interview. She reiterated so many realities for western Muslims. It is so much better in Canada unlike Europe but we still fight for our rights everyday
Mind Begs the Question: Hitler - Jews unsafe to German Culture,Identity If Politicians/Govts - Muslims unsafe to Western Culture,Identity Straight out of Hitlers playbook,no?
As a by born and practicing Muslim I often think about what the world needs to be like for Muslims if we start to protest or fight against the oppression of those who are playing nasty games against us only to dominate us and destroy our societies across the world, looting muslim countries resources by using violence/proxy wars in the name of terrorism or some kind of political ideologies. Then I realize that our beloved Prophet (PBUH) said that his there will be times when his Ummah the Muslims would face tremendous oppressions and crucial challenges by the non believers yet we the Muslims will achieve the highest level position in the world after fighting against all the oppressors and would also be able to establish peace/stability across the world by the grace of almighty Allah.
Conveniently left out the plight of minorities in muslim country eg illegal conversion , killing people , destroying the place of worship and when things turns around you people winge about everything...
I’m a white woman of European decent, born in America. When I converted to Islam 18 years ago now, I just had enough with everyone’s problem with me being Muslim and wearing a scarf on my head, so I immigrated to the Middle East. I don’t have time for Western culture dictatorship over my body and what I wear. If they want to punish me because of what I wear, like not give me a job and just make life hard on me, they can have their Western culture. However, I do find it interesting when I see tourists from the West come over here to the Middle East and have no respect what so ever for our culture, traditions, and Islamic ways. Westerners are dressed in ways that people here find insulting or shocking. The West wants everyone in the world to be like them, act like them, dress like them, talk like them. No thank you West, not interested!
Thank you for this interview. In France people are commenting abaya, in fact the text is far mor permissive. Any cloth that is religious by destination can be banned. In other words if you wear a long skirt and are a muslim you can be banned but if you do it and are a fashionista no problem. Our girls are desperate. We can still order ethnic skirt in the hope that the accusation of racism is more infamous than that of islamophobia that is almost a praise for patriotism
Good Interview. The other day I cycled past my local publicly-funded secondary school here in Canberra (Australia) and spotted a small group of hijab-wearing students enjoying each others company. Australia has a secular constitution, but wearing hijab's, abaya's etc in schools and in public is widespread and socially accepted. The French Republic is to be condemned for these bans.
@@beth1979 I'm an old fossil that grew up in the racist and intolerant Australia of the 1960s. We've made so much positive social progress in Australia in the decades since then. The Muslim community in Australia contributes significantly to the prosperity, peace and harmony of the nation. Long may you and the community thrive.
@@cblackall21thank you so much for all the hard work you and your generation did in the 1960's to build the beautiful country we have today. And thank you for your kind words. God bless you (no offence if you are an atheist).
Condemned ? But it's our culture of intrgration which is different that yours. If I go in a muslim country I accept the rules. Foreigners who come in France have to adapt themselves like 15.000.000 of french muslims who are against abaya in school. Abaya is not a outfit of north africa but was imported by the terrorists who comitted massacres during 10 years in Algeria, before coming in France with the same influences for djihad, women outfits and so on. A few month ago a teacher was brheaded in front of his school a lesson about freedom of speech. The last week the father of one of the young girl wearing an abaya wanted to kill an employee of the school. Do we have to change our laws for a little minority of foreigners ? NO Do we have to accept religious violence ? NO Do we have to forget 500 victims of attacks, murders ? NO Do we have to protect apostats or gays victims of the muslim communauty ? YES French have not to change. You can't come in a country to take some advantages without looking at what don't please you. If you support islamism go away very far from Europe. And as french christian I am happy to ear some muslims explaining concretly their point of view as citizen for social and political peace than a religious speech explaining to young girls they don't have to agree to the laws of their country.
I heard in France, they show Abaya ban as religios ban. But reality in ground is this: Girls try to skirt Abaya ban by wearing Normal loose dress. Still they're not allowed bcz they know they're Muslims who wear loose clothes. So only way to get entry is short clothes.
@@likeicecream8421 Just follow the rules of wherever you live. If they are not happy, then they can return to their Muslim countries. What is difficult to understand about that?
In the US, you can request a female doctor. Non Muslims also do it. Whether it can be accommodated is a different matter but many non Muslim medical staff will try to accommodate it.
Can we please cut some slack to those of us who are Muslims and don’t wear headscarves? We’ve fought many barriers to get where we are and continue to do so. My work involves a form of community outreach and the Muslim/hijabi women are just not interested in engaging with me/us. In fact, some of them have a sort of arrogance whereby people like me are looked down upon because I choose to work and they’re at home raising their families, as if I’m not! Also, please don’t forget- we are a religion of intentions, so headscarf or not, we’ll be judged according to what’s in our hearts and how we act vs wearing an item of clothing and pretending we’re holier than though.
It's bad to view non hijab women as bad Muslims. Islam doesn't force women to put on the hijab. But we should not also forget the consequences of not doing it, in the eyes of Allah.
France has Milked so much natural resources etc from African Muslims countries for hundreds of years and is still milking so many countries assets up today you would think they would not care what Muslim women wear. Great video thankyou.
Best line be kind to each other . Marriage is all a out consideration about each other and Islam teaches us to be consideration towards our human brothers and sisters.
Absolutely right sister Lauren. You only have to look at the children’s clothing rails in supermarkets and the female children’s clothing is sexualised and has been for years. My children are now adult but this was the case back then which I objected to at that time, I wasn’t a revert at this point. Our poor children are being boxed into what is a socially engineered sexualised way of being … and the ignorant don’t even realise it !
M/s. Lauren's account of what it's like to don the beautiful Hijab; standing one more chance of protection is soul-soothing. A massive Thank-you for this one! Masha'Allah, dearest sister in-faith!
@@FatimahMohammadNaik There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower. Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
Muslims are targetted because Hijab is seen as a symbol of Islamism; a political ideology seen as the enemy of the West, and also by most Muslim governments.
Head covering of women's hair was first written into law by the Assyrians in 13th Century BC to make women pious... this would predate Islam, Christianity etc.
Muslimahs such as yourself are so very inspiring. I feel like a Neandertal trying to convey my inner mind into words and fumble around. But you have the background of a journalist and put it all together so well! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I'm working up the courage to get back to wearing hijab. I treated myself to 2 beautiful extra large Shayla hijabs and some very nice under caps that are rather upmarket but will actually fit my thick hair and big head (thick skull, not large brain 🤪 ). Because the mass-produced under caps from China are utterly hopeless for a big Crow Indian woman!! I look ridiculous. Small tedious details but they really help give me the courage to wear hijab much more often!
As always in France, the law goes touch much larger than what is actually advertised for. In this case not only abayas are prohibited but all clothing that covers the arms. Last week girls in kimonos were refused home and their parents were called. Girls with long sleeves T-shirts too. Girls with the same pieces of clothing were scrutinised to guess which of them were wearing them for religious reasons and then exclude them. On these grounds only, this law should be fought in courts for discrimination. The situation is just ridiculous!
Living in a non-muslim country where I can freely choose and live in our society as a Muslim woman, I wonder of the experience of hijabi travellers (for business and leisure reasons) to these places that have these anti-modest, anti-Islamic-wear etc. policies.
Maaşallah sister Lauren ❤🤲 may Allah bless you. Very powerful message throughout this interview. Iam also a british revert living in Türkıye. I thank Allah everyday for the very dificult but wonderful journey to Islam and to allow me to adapt to the Turkish culture, which is to me being a breath of fresh air.
The dignity that us middle aged, and also older women, are given in Islam is the same as in our Native American tribes. 💖💖💖 I am an Auntie now too. This is not recognized by Western secular culture but now I am a Muslim so that doesn't matter any more.
My advice to sisters: do not depend on a strong sister like her to always take the lead. Many hands make light work and can be much more productive. Each of you have the ability to do what she is doing. My advice to the brothers: be men again! Stop throwing the women out front, constantly having to defend themselves and our religion. If our "so called" leaders ie: imams, scholars, community leaders are satisfied with being meek, weak, soft and apologetic then demand more from them or get rid of them! So many have become pathetically out of shape physically and mentally, that I question whether they could defend themselves, leave alone their families. Sounds harsh? Too bad! Grow thicker skin! Toughen up! Get into the gym! You want to lead our Ummah? Then lead it like a man and stop being human marshmallows .👊
Iran Enforced 10 Stupid Laws 1. Women are not allowed to show their hair 2. Women are not allowed to sing 3. Women are not allowed to dance 4. Women are not allowed to divorce 5. Women are not allowed to enter stadium 6. Women are not allowed to ride motorbike 7. Women are not allowed to go overseas alone 8. Women are not allowed to join military 9. Women are not allowed to become a witness 10. Women are not allowed to become a judge
The guides are there & people are willing to follow too, the problem is not being able to practice without being judged & consistently condemned! Not just by others but our own society too!
It was good to meet you in person. Your viewers ought to know that the Thinking Muslim is not just the competent podcast host you see here but also a very generous Muslim. He left early a table of over ten heads at a restaurant in Istanbul, including some leading Anglophone scholars, having settled the bill alone surreptitiously. More guest suggestions: 1. Prof. Hayrettin Yücesoy at Washington University in St. Louis, author of "Disenchanting the Caliphate: The Secular Discipline of Power in Abbasid Political Thought" (Columbia UP 2023) 2. London-based Azhar graduate, Sheikh Mohammed Nizami. His writings on contemporary Muslim affairs can be provocative but insightful.
May Allah bless Lauren for her courage and enlightened frankness to present the plight of Muslims from the perspective of a highly-educated convert to Islam. She comes across to me as nothing less than a Margaret Thatcher in hijab. "Progressive" and Feminist Muslim women can profit much from her because most are only just embarking on a similar if not the same modern trail that she has long sampled, mastered and, I believe, grown tired off on the rebound ! Kudos to Thinking Muslims and all in their team !
43:26 At this point, I think this discussion really addresses and solves all the contentious and controversial topics for Muslims living in the West - coming to beautiful, sound, and Islamic conclusions 🎉 This is more rare than it should be! Allahumma barik.
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@mas-udal-hassan9277 please inform yourself before publicly making comments. Allah will question us all on our behaviour.
@@web3982With your support and duas inshallah. We want genuine interactions and awareness and dont want shortcuts to success. May Allah guide us all.
@mas-udal-hassan9277 That’s not the correct adab to ask the question. Have you watched the podcast? She addresses feminism in it? Also the hadith you mention has to be brought together with all the associated texts on the matter, and that requires a mujtahid to outweigh and understand the evidences. You cannot act, without knowledge, on a solitary hadith. Our deen it based on a rich history of scholarly interpretation. Scholars have written books on the subject of living with non Muslims in non muslim lands after evaluating all of the evidences.
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A brilliant interview!
Love your work Paul!
@mas-udal-hassan9277 Who? You? Paul? Lauren? The interviewer? And, even if... they/she are Muslims, aren't they/she?
@mas-udal-hassan9277 dumbo
Jazakallah khair brother Paul !
@mas-udal-hassan9277What do you mean by that? Is that an allegation? 😂
As a muslim , french nationality, with my family, we had to leave France. It has been two years since we left France. Today we are finally breathing the air of freedom.
Big props to you. Leaving may be hard but when it's worth no matter how hard
My Allah bless you 🙏
Salaam, if you don’t mind me asking where did you move?
Very sad unfortunately but expected
It reminds me mass exodus of Huguenots ( Protestant)
France is right hand of Vatican
Britain 🇬🇧 should stay away from France
Eu and China
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I met sr Lauren in a town hall meeting in a mosque in Texas. She has to be a brave to be a Muslim women. I have a great respect for her just wearing the dress for muslim women. She is a great speaker, journalist and writer. She is a roll model for the muslim women.
Brave to wear the hijab? We aren't brave, it's a blessing and a gift from Allah that shows how precious women are. Unlike western society etc that degrades women.
@@alliyahsgalaxyin some countries, being Muslim is tough due to the pressure and oppression. Brave is not a wrong term to use for those Muslims especially the reverts. It does not help, to discount their bravery in facing the challenges in following Allah's law. Let's not patronise please, especially if we're not on the receiving end of oppression. Let's pray for them to be steadfast in their faith in Allah.
Yes, that is true. But in the West, ie where Lauren Booth comes from, the UK, we are free to wear the hijab most places. Maybe an odd remote village here or there may be difficult. I would say wearing it in India now is very brave, and also Chinese Uyghur's etc. So yes, you could say it is brave. I ultimately see it as a blessing either way from Allah. Being given the bravery is also a blessing from Allah. @@eszeezee6967
@@alliyahsgalaxy jzk sister for your comment. Let’s take our fellow Muslims comments with the best of faith and try to prevent Shaytaan from separating us.
women are stripped their dignity, self-esteem and honour in the name of freedom very true sister Lauren
Why has any religion should be involved in civil life,anyway.
@@iramehra2774Islamically, in the community we have rules, when you're in your own home, do as you wish.
My third comment- absolutely blown by sister Lauren's wisdom. Sister sees the bigger picture and explains the societal ills in such a clear and articulate style. May Allah bless her. As a middle-aged Muslim male, I have learned a great deal from and have given a clear perspective on many things - gender-related and otherwise.
Ameen may Allah protect her, increase her and continue to help her ameen
And of course, we don't have any societal ills amongst us Muslims? Unemplyment, underemployment, lack of education, sexual abuse hushed up, cousin marriages, denying women basic rights, involvement in crime higher than our proportion of the UK population. I could go on.
Best not to point fingers at others because two other fingers will point right back.
@@lillyrose2514 There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower.
Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
As a revert, I feel it daily. The ones saying Muslim women don't have a voice are the same ones doing the silencing. There is a war on us
We live in a world where people clap for those on OnlyFans but think covering up equal oppression.
Fantastic podcast. Sister Lauren Booth is a breath of fresh air. A sound Muslimah, mashallah.
There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower.
Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
Mashallah, Thankyou for this interview. I saw an interview of sister Booth around the time she became a Muslim. Glad to see she’s doing well Allahamdulliah
Assalamu Alaikum
In solidarity with the Muslims in France, especially the girls, I'm wearing an abaya to school. We should support our Muslim brothers and sisters.
Millions of french muslims in France don't want abaya in school. Because they are french like jews or christians and understand the laws. A few young girls didn't understand. They had an explaination and accept.
The father of one refused. He went to school and said he was hoing to kill them. A few months ago a teacher was beheaded by the familly for a lesson about freedom of dpeech,
Why abaya is a political outfit in France ? It's not a traditionnal outfit from north africa but middle east. During the 10 years of civil war in algeria the FIS committed murders, massacres, attacks and obliged women to wear abayas. In France it began at the same time that djihadism.
Woman can wear abaya in France but not in school. Because it's religious. They have to do Like jews or christians or buddhist or other muslims. No teligion in a republic school. Or parents can choose a private school.
Ignorance is the world's worst public enemy, ignorant people are hurting others, as well as themselves, and in the process enabling the evil-intended ones among us.
It is not ignorant it is the hatred towards muslims
There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower.
Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
@web3982
I confess my ignorance. I never heard from Lauren Booth even one word
against the killing of 23 years old Mahsa Amini in Iran for not wearing hijab.
Not a word on young sisters killed by own brothers in her beloved Palestine.
Of course, not a word on israeli children killed by Hamas on Oct 7.
She highly deserves Hamas VIP passeport given to her by Ismail Hanye
Sister Lauren, you have the ability to raise awareness in those who have absolutely no awareness! That in itself is an absolute blessing. May Allah bless you and keep you safe 🤍🌿
You have spoken the truth, you have voiced exactly what we as women living by Islam went through, and still are.
@mas-udal-hassan9277
All I got from this post is that women shouldn't be independent because you want easy sex.
Great interview! Lauren is very inspiring ! MashaAllah!
Alhumdullilah makes my heart happy to see the success of this page. I remember when it first started. Having like 50-100 views. Not in the thousands. Jazak Allahu khairn brother Mohammed
Had to comment - brother Jalal looks way too young to be the father of a 20-year-old! Mashaaa Allah. May Allah preserve him - Allahumma Barik.
Very strong point about What we are consuming on internet!! This is why I had to stop watching movies. Especially instagram!! Uploading our photos there is asking people to like us, we begin to beg people for validation instead of being self aware, secure and content in our own skin. We are told we can be “influencers” and earn money. These Are psychological attacks on us that most of us sadly don’t even realise!!!
Its the difference between some irrational Muslim blowing himnself up and killing people over some irrational rubbish about re-establiswhing some Caliphate fantasy to a person wanting to go through gender transition. One involves hurting others and the other is a personal choice. Do you get it now?@mas-udal-hassan9277
I really enjoy seeing Muslim intellectuals and scholars do such talks and interviews. This type of media appeals to a rather different group of people (mainly liberals), and this is why I like it.
Muslim intellectuals 😂 Good one 👍🏾
Ablutions (Wudu')
(13)Chapter: The going out of women for answering the call of nature(13)باب خُرُوجِ النِّسَاءِ إِلَى الْبَرَازِ
Sahih al-Bukhari 146
Narrated `Aisha:
The wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqi` at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. `Umar used to say to the Prophet (ﷺ) "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam`a the wife of the Prophet (ﷺ) went out at `Isha' time and she was a tall lady. `Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).
There were a series of statements from the lady about Muslim women's experiences that are far from reality.
There is a reason there is a Western-inspired move to give Muslim women more rights over family life, work, inheritance etc across the Muslim world and not the other way of the West cloistering women at home and discouraging them from working as many of our Mullahs want.
Fascinating interview. She reiterated so many realities for western Muslims. It is so much better in Canada unlike Europe but we still fight for our rights everyday
Mind Begs the Question:
Hitler - Jews unsafe to German Culture,Identity
If Politicians/Govts - Muslims unsafe to Western Culture,Identity
Straight out of Hitlers playbook,no?
As a by born and practicing Muslim I often think about what the world needs to be like for Muslims if we start to protest or fight against the oppression of those who are playing nasty games against us only to dominate us and destroy our societies across the world, looting muslim countries resources by using violence/proxy wars in the name of terrorism or some kind of political ideologies. Then I realize that our beloved Prophet (PBUH) said that his there will be times when his Ummah the Muslims would face tremendous oppressions and crucial challenges by the non believers yet we the Muslims will achieve the highest level position in the world after fighting against all the oppressors and would also be able to establish peace/stability across the world by the grace of almighty Allah.
Conveniently left out the plight of minorities in muslim country eg illegal conversion , killing people , destroying the place of worship and when things turns around you people winge about everything...
Ma sha Allah. This sister is so based. She gave me some good reminders and somethings to think about. May Allah swt reward her.
This channel is criminally underrated. I just watched two whole episodes back to back in the car and loved every minute of it.
Not while driving I hope…. 😎
@@jukkaikomi1763 well rather listened I guess would be more accurate. Yeah, that doesn’t sound good when I read it back now haha 😂
I have learned so much from this conversation. Sister Lauren explained everything so well. Would love to listen to her more on other subjects as well.
Lovely hearing the prospective of this sister.
Thank you for being a great example for young women, muslim or not!
Selamu alejkum!
My favorite episode to date, this sister is saying it as it is. Thank you and may Allah ta'ala accept your efforts!
Really enjoyed it!
JazakaAllahu khairan for the brilliant interview with our dearest sister Lauren, packed with common sense truthful knowledge.
Truly worth watching
masallah these questions were refreshing, keep up your work brother
I’m a white woman of European decent, born in America. When I converted to Islam 18 years ago now, I just had enough with everyone’s problem with me being Muslim and wearing a scarf on my head, so I immigrated to the Middle East. I don’t have time for Western culture dictatorship over my body and what I wear. If they want to punish me because of what I wear, like not give me a job and just make life hard on me, they can have their Western culture. However, I do find it interesting when I see tourists from the West come over here to the Middle East and have no respect what so ever for our culture, traditions, and Islamic ways. Westerners are dressed in ways that people here find insulting or shocking. The West wants everyone in the world to be like them, act like them, dress like them, talk like them. No thank you West, not interested!
Thank you for this interview. In France people are commenting abaya, in fact the text is far mor permissive. Any cloth that is religious by destination can be banned. In other words if you wear a long skirt and are a muslim you can be banned but if you do it and are a fashionista no problem. Our girls are desperate. We can still order ethnic skirt in the hope that the accusation of racism is more infamous than that of islamophobia that is almost a praise for patriotism
Great job guys 😊 learnt so much here. Thank you both for your amazing work!
Good Interview. The other day I cycled past my local publicly-funded secondary school here in Canberra (Australia) and spotted a small group of hijab-wearing students enjoying each others company. Australia has a secular constitution, but wearing hijab's, abaya's etc in schools and in public is widespread and socially accepted. The French Republic is to be condemned for these bans.
Yes, I'm an Australian convert to Islam. I'm so proud of Australia for being so chill. Aussies are usually kind and accepting. I'm glad I live here.
@@beth1979 I'm an old fossil that grew up in the racist and intolerant Australia of the 1960s. We've made so much positive social progress in Australia in the decades since then. The Muslim community in Australia contributes significantly to the prosperity, peace and harmony of the nation. Long may you and the community thrive.
@@cblackall21thank you so much for all the hard work you and your generation did in the 1960's to build the beautiful country we have today. And thank you for your kind words. God bless you (no offence if you are an atheist).
@@beth1979 Blessings most welcomed. I'm an Irish-Australian Roman Catholic by birth.
Condemned ? But it's our culture of intrgration which is different that yours. If I go in a muslim country I accept the rules. Foreigners who come in France have to adapt themselves like 15.000.000 of french muslims who are against abaya in school. Abaya is not a outfit of north africa but was imported by the terrorists who comitted massacres during 10 years in Algeria, before coming in France with the same influences for djihad, women outfits and so on.
A few month ago a teacher was brheaded in front of his school a lesson about freedom of speech. The last week the father of one of the young girl wearing an abaya wanted to kill an employee of the school.
Do we have to change our laws for a little minority of foreigners ? NO
Do we have to accept religious violence ? NO
Do we have to forget 500 victims of attacks, murders ? NO
Do we have to protect apostats or gays victims of the muslim communauty ? YES
French have not to change. You can't come in a country to take some advantages without looking at what don't please you. If you support islamism go away very far from Europe.
And as french christian I am happy to ear some muslims explaining concretly their point of view as citizen for social and political peace than a religious speech explaining to young girls they don't have to agree to the laws of their country.
I heard in France, they show Abaya ban as religios ban. But reality in ground is this:
Girls try to skirt Abaya ban by wearing Normal loose dress. Still they're not allowed bcz they know they're Muslims who wear loose clothes. So only way to get entry is short clothes.
Muslim Lies
You people are wired to lie and say half truths.
@@Man-ys2il it’s the truth, I am Muslim in France and they can’t wear clothes that « look like » abbayas
@@frost7490 it’s the truth, I am Muslim in France and they can’t wear clothes that « look like » abbayas
@@likeicecream8421 Just follow the rules of wherever you live. If they are not happy, then they can return to their Muslim countries. What is difficult to understand about that?
What a great talk. I enjoyed every minute of it. May Allah bless everyone involved in this podcast.
name one muslim society except turkey where women have a choice- say thanks to Ataturk for Turkey
It was really worth to listen to your podcast and to suscribe to it. Mashallah and Alhamdulillah!
What a fantastic podcast- I wish the world could listen to this. It is so liberating ❤
Even the European women used to wear something similar to the hijab just 60/70 years ago
no they didn't
Jazaa kumuLlahu khairah to both of you
Utterly compelling viewing. Brilliant interview.
Thank you so much for inviting her. This is a beautiful interview.
brilliant discussion
Jazzak Allah Khair for the insightful discussion
JazakAllah Khairun for this podcast, Lauren Booth's reasoning and logic is profound
Looking forward to this one Inshaa Allah. Sister Lauren is a gem.
Thank you, wonderful chat.
Mashallah what great points of wisdom Sr Lauren brought up and great questions from the interviewer. You made many great points Alhamdulilah
Wow time just flew by listening.. Jazakom Allah kheir!
Jazakum Allahu khairan! A very inspirational sister, much more in reality and a very good model for us in doing more for islam in sha Allah !
Wow! It’s been an hour?! Amazing conversation! Thank you both!
i love this interview. JazakAllah
In the US, you can request a female doctor. Non Muslims also do it. Whether it can be accommodated is a different matter but many non Muslim medical staff will try to accommodate it.
Can we please cut some slack to those of us who are Muslims and don’t wear headscarves? We’ve fought many barriers to get where we are and continue to do so. My work involves a form of community outreach and the Muslim/hijabi women are just not interested in engaging with me/us. In fact, some of them have a sort of arrogance whereby people like me are looked down upon because I choose to work and they’re at home raising their families, as if I’m not! Also, please don’t forget- we are a religion of intentions, so headscarf or not, we’ll be judged according to what’s in our hearts and how we act vs wearing an item of clothing and pretending we’re holier than though.
It's bad to view non hijab women as bad Muslims. Islam doesn't force women to put on the hijab. But we should not also forget the consequences of not doing it, in the eyes of Allah.
France has Milked so much natural resources etc from African Muslims countries for hundreds of years and is still milking so many countries assets up today you would think they would not care what Muslim women wear. Great video thankyou.
What an excellent listen. She’s so lovely mashallah
Mashallah! Love sister Lauren, her book is wonderful! Highly recommend it.
Best line be kind to each other . Marriage is all a out consideration about each other and Islam teaches us to be consideration towards our human brothers and sisters.
Absolutely right sister Lauren. You only have to look at the children’s clothing rails in supermarkets and the female children’s clothing is sexualised and has been for years. My children are now adult but this was the case back then which I objected to at that time, I wasn’t a revert at this point. Our poor children are being boxed into what is a socially engineered sexualised way of being … and the ignorant don’t even realise it !
One of the most ... brain tickling interviews .. very respectful .. where both have their own spaces .. it was very well done .
M/s. Lauren's account of what it's like to don the beautiful Hijab; standing one more chance of protection is soul-soothing.
A massive Thank-you for this one!
Masha'Allah, dearest sister in-faith!
Totally!
@@FatimahMohammadNaik There is no harm in a man having intercourse with two of his slave girls before he does shower. It is disapproved of, however, to go to a freewoman on another's day. There is no harm in having sex first to one slave girl and then to another without shower.
Muwatta Malik, Book 2, Hadith 90
I witnessed sisters shahada at the peace and unity event in London.
We ask Allah to keep us steadfast on Allah's path
Ah my favourite so far ❤
Thanks for interviewing this lady. She is very beautiful.
I have never understood why Muslim women are targeted with the hijab? ALL religions advocate covering your hair, not just for women, but for men too.
Muslims are targetted because Hijab is seen as a symbol of Islamism; a political ideology seen as the enemy of the West, and also by most Muslim governments.
Head covering of women's hair was first written into law by the Assyrians in 13th Century BC to make women pious... this would predate Islam, Christianity etc.
Muslimahs such as yourself are so very inspiring. I feel like a Neandertal trying to convey my inner mind into words and fumble around. But you have the background of a journalist and put it all together so well! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
I'm working up the courage to get back to wearing hijab. I treated myself to 2 beautiful extra large Shayla hijabs and some very nice under caps that are rather upmarket but will actually fit my thick hair and big head (thick skull, not large brain 🤪 ). Because the mass-produced under caps from China are utterly hopeless for a big Crow Indian woman!! I look ridiculous. Small tedious details but they really help give me the courage to wear hijab much more often!
Mashallah good questions and fantastic answers
As always in France, the law goes touch much larger than what is actually advertised for.
In this case not only abayas are prohibited but all clothing that covers the arms.
Last week girls in kimonos were refused home and their parents were called. Girls with long sleeves T-shirts too.
Girls with the same pieces of clothing were scrutinised to guess which of them were wearing them for religious reasons and then exclude them.
On these grounds only, this law should be fought in courts for discrimination.
The situation is just ridiculous!
That is great questions
Jazaka Allah khayran, my brother
Living in a non-muslim country where I can freely choose and live in our society as a Muslim woman, I wonder of the experience of hijabi travellers (for business and leisure reasons) to these places that have these anti-modest, anti-Islamic-wear etc. policies.
Masha. Allah TabarakAllah
Very awakening discussion may Allah reward you both I took it to my heart
I really enjoy the podcast and I will support your work! Thank you ❤️
Maaşallah sister Lauren ❤🤲 may Allah bless you. Very powerful message throughout this interview. Iam also a british revert living in Türkıye. I thank Allah everyday for the very dificult but wonderful journey to Islam and to allow me to adapt to the Turkish culture, which is to me being a breath of fresh air.
Absolutely love this talk..jazakAllah khair sister lauren and brother muhammad
Excellent podcast
loved every minute. Alhumdullilah
May Allah reward this sister !
Much love to you all ❤️
She is brilliant again. MashaAllah. May Allah accept her.
The dignity that us middle aged, and also older women, are given in Islam is the same as in our Native American tribes. 💖💖💖 I am an Auntie now too. This is not recognized by Western secular culture but now I am a Muslim so that doesn't matter any more.
Salamoe aleyküm barakallahu fike ya teacher fore your information.
I LOVE THIS SISTER. SUCH A INTELLIGENT LADY. SO WRLL SPOKEN. MAY ALLAH BLESS HER.
My advice to sisters: do not depend on a strong sister like her to always take the lead. Many hands make light work and can be much more productive. Each of you have the ability to do what she is doing. My advice to the brothers: be men again! Stop throwing the women out front, constantly having to defend themselves and our religion. If our "so called" leaders ie: imams, scholars, community leaders are satisfied with being meek, weak, soft and apologetic then demand more from them or get rid of them! So many have become pathetically out of shape physically and mentally, that I question whether they could defend themselves, leave alone their families. Sounds harsh? Too bad! Grow thicker skin! Toughen up! Get into the gym! You want to lead our Ummah? Then lead it like a man and stop being human marshmallows .👊
Iran Enforced 10 Stupid Laws
1. Women are not allowed to show their hair
2. Women are not allowed to sing
3. Women are not allowed to dance
4. Women are not allowed to divorce
5. Women are not allowed to enter stadium
6. Women are not allowed to ride motorbike
7. Women are not allowed to go overseas alone
8. Women are not allowed to join military
9. Women are not allowed to become a witness
10. Women are not allowed to become a judge
Wonderful interview!
Great interview!
The guides are there & people are willing to follow too, the problem is not being able to practice without being judged & consistently condemned!
Not just by others but our own society too!
أرجو ترجمة مقابلات السيدة لورين بوث إلى اللغة العربية لنشرها وللفاءة وشكرا للقائمين على العمل وجزاكم الله خيرا.
It was good to meet you in person. Your viewers ought to know that the Thinking Muslim is not just the competent podcast host you see here but also a very generous Muslim. He left early a table of over ten heads at a restaurant in Istanbul, including some leading Anglophone scholars, having settled the bill alone surreptitiously.
More guest suggestions:
1. Prof. Hayrettin Yücesoy at Washington University in St. Louis, author of "Disenchanting the Caliphate: The Secular Discipline of Power in Abbasid Political Thought" (Columbia UP 2023)
2. London-based Azhar graduate, Sheikh Mohammed Nizami. His writings on contemporary Muslim affairs can be provocative but insightful.
Shes such an inspiration ❤
SubanAallah Alhamdulillah good interview ❤❤❤
Incredible discussion!
Great Interview
I enjoy your conversation ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Imagine being a Black degree holding Muslim woman with a Muslim name going in search of a job.
May Allah bless Lauren for her courage and enlightened frankness to present the plight of Muslims from the perspective of a highly-educated convert to Islam. She comes across to me as nothing less than a Margaret Thatcher in hijab. "Progressive" and Feminist Muslim women can profit much from her because most are only just embarking on a similar if not the same modern trail that she has long sampled, mastered and, I believe, grown tired off on the rebound ! Kudos to Thinking Muslims and all in their team !
Thank you for the kick in the shin, I will get out of my armchair😂😂😂😂😂❤
43:26 At this point, I think this discussion really addresses and solves all the contentious and controversial topics for Muslims living in the West - coming to beautiful, sound, and Islamic conclusions 🎉 This is more rare than it should be! Allahumma barik.
Great work