Good vs. Great 3d Printers (Sovol SV06 Plus)
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With the popularity of the Sovol SV06 and the requests I often get for larger format budget 3d printers, I was excited about the release of the SV06 Plus. I have had this printer for a couple of months now and it has been a mixed bag with some ups and some downs along the way. In today's video, we will look at the printer specs, and how it performed, and I will give you my overall thoughts based on my experience with it so far.
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Great video. Thank you!
About the filament sensor unlocking problem mentioned in the video. Actually, we have found it last month. We have made improvements in the mass production of the machine. Or people can fix this issue by refreshing our latest firmware.
About our cura slicer, we will do further optimization. We think the setting of slicing has a lot to do with the filaments used for printing. Next we will test various consumables to improve the compatibility of the software.
We increased the fan speed in SV06 Plus. But if the speed is increased further, higher power fan speed will generate more noise. We will consider other ways to improve cooling afterwards.
About the independent dual Z drive, SV06 Plus currently does not support for the time being, because the need to change the motherboard. We have considered this in the design, but in order to achieve maximum cost performance (competitive), so the current design was chosen. The subsequent development of new products will take this part into special consideration.
Glad to see you commented on his points of interest.
I've been sitting on the fence purchasing this printer as an upgrade to my voxelab aquila.
@@KensToyz ❤
I got in on the second round of pre-order for this printer and am waiting for it to arrive. Based on your comment I'm assuming that the filament run out sensor and locking problem will be fixed and ready on the printer when I get it? (Est shipping date from your website is Apr 16th I believe) Also, the strain relief for the bed cable as well? All in all, I'm looking forward to the printers arrival. It'll be my first 3d Printer, though I'll have had a little practice as my department just got one a month ago.
@@kennethpaulson6540 ❤
creality used to send out beta untested machines i hope solvol are not following suit
update got mine its frigging brilliant fast stable .. creality could learn alot from them!
Recent owner of the SV06 Plus here!
I got the printer about one week ago as my first printer so take my quick review with a grain of salt. But the good news is that the cable has been updated already and at least with prusaslicer and their default settings for the SV06 Plus the main issues brought up in this video have been taken care of. The bad is that the bearings are a little... Noisy? I don't think they come in pre packed with grease but it seems like that's still something up for debate. For a roughly $350CAD printer this thing really is a monster and a delight to use. Now i just need to be not crap at adjusting settings and making my own models...
Super cool to see my prints in there at 9:18
Thanks for printing it!
Sovol is very competitive in this price range
Thank you so much for providing reviews that specify the good AND the bad. I've watched several other creators review of this printer and they didn't mention some of these challenges, making the printer sound too good to be true at the moment. Thank you for your honesty.
Great video! I can't wait to get mine and see what the community can do to fix these issues.
Congratulations on family expansion 🥰.
i'll be getting mine on wednesday. thanks for the great review. particularly, thanks for the tips to help me get it set up correctly.
Appreciate the blunt honesty. Keep up the good work.
So often when reviewers are given printers for free to review they only focus on the positives and either ignore or downplay the negatives. I guess many are worried they might get cut-off from free products. Kudos for being honest and it is reviews like this that manufacturers get some true feedback to improve their product. Fortunately, the strain relief is fairly easy to improve by printing a support piece (even though this should be done before releasing the product). My hope for the filament run-out sensor and the overall optimization of settings is that it is fixable through updated firmware AND they actually spend the resources to do it.
Thank you for the review. I was thinking of buying this. Now I will wait for the improvements.
I appreciate the honesty about the defects. So many reviewers just rave & shill about Sovol’s offering, ignoring the limitations. Thanks for being so direct!
This was a professional honest 3D printer reviews pointing out things that matter. Thank you 🙏
I just got 2 sv06 preorders and the bed strain relief looks good to me... at least improved from what you saw on that unit.
Great and honest review! :) One word of caution regarding the spool holder at the top having ball bearings for easier spinning and I'm sure I'm not the only one with this experience: I created such a solution for my Creality CR10S Pro v2 a couple of years ago having the spool at the top. The problem was that the spool would quite often start to unwind itself during a print. I mean unwind more than the extruder was pulling. I realized it was probably due to the torque that the already unwound filament exerts on the spool and the pulling from the extruder probably trigs it. I ended up skipping that spool holder and since over a year back I have the spool at the printer's base level instead (still a solution with ball bearings for smooth spinning). No more mid-print unwinding. :)
Thank you for this review, I love my SV06 and had been eyeing this printer since I typically print large for cosplay purposes. I’ll keep my LK5 pro until they HOPEFULLY refine the SV06 Plus.
Preach brother! You've yet to give me any doubts in your integrity and unlike some other youtubers you seem to always put community ahead of your own bottom line. Your videos always have high production values and your conclusions are always backed up by facts and not some biased opinion. No doubt in my mind that you're the top dog in the 3d printing game. Respect!
Ordered this printer a few days ago
Glad to hear most of the major issues, besides the bed wire, are software related
Hopefully sovol addresses these before shipping out the pre-orders.
very good video these are the reason im holding off on the sv06 plus at the minute
Sovol is so close, yet still so far.
I guess it depends if they are targeting the Creality customer base, or the Prusa customer base.
I appreciate your honest thoughts on this printer. I pre-ordered the SV06 and while I have it printing great now, it took a lot on my part to get it to work as advertised. Lots of people have the mindset of "what do you expect from a budget printer". Well I expect it to do what the company says it does when it is new.
The SV06 is a great printer if you iron out the bugs, and it looks like the Plus is more of the same. IMO if Sovol would just spend a bit more time refining their printers they would have the low to midrange market by the balls right now. But the way they are sending things out the door I have a hard time recommending them to other people.
I think your reply is most sensible one here. I want to buy a 3d printer for occasional use - my be once a month or I don't know if it make sense buying 3d printer at all (but as I am building electronic and sensor lab I may use it in time more often) but buying a Prusa seems even less reasonable for the occasional use. If I am not mistaken SV06 seems like the one of the best price performance printers in this segment , isn't it?. What were SV06 bugs you needed to iron out? And what were in brief the solutions in a word. If you have some relevant links please share. I am green with 3d printers but I am very technical. I also wonder what reliably issues you had since?
Honest and issues clearly defined. Now that's a good review. As for Sovol, I'm a wee bit surprised that obvious faults were left in this so called updated unit.
Come on Sovol, bring us a printer with just these mentioned issues resolved and truly I will buy one for my brother.
Thanks for this video. I've had my eye on this printer, but will wait to see if anything is improved. Personally, a filament sensor is the last thing I care about or need on my printers, other than on my MK3S.
It is a great concept when functioning but really doesn't change my view either way. Upgrades and replacement parts do on the other hand have my curiosity. The Prusa cloning is just that a clone and while its bigger doesnt mean better.
Great review, Ive been looking for a bigger printer for my farm, I’ve been asked for bigger products than my mk3s can make. Thank you
Also they have great documentation in the form of videos on TH-cam videos for most things like disassembly and reassembly of the extruder (I'm glad that I didn't get the plus )dogged a bullet there if you ask me
As beginner in this 3D madness, thank you for the can soup tip, i bet this is what is happening to my with sv07+.
I have a sovol sv06 and I never used the slicer for the printer I just made a new profile for the prusa i3 mk3 and changed the bed size to fit been very happy with the result it's actually slightly faster them my prusa because of the meshbed leveling it dose before each print
Did you need to block the 5v power pin on the usb cable before connecting to pc? I heard if not, you can fry the printer
@@dekederiza i have made no modes to my sv06 its stock
With PLA ok but PETG first layer not.
Tried several days, but the induction probe is crap.
The heatbed warped a bit upwards and the probe dont't compensate the temp. So i change to Super Pinda and made mesh bed leveling at 80° after 5min.
Now it worked
I just got an sv06 plus, and it looks like they addressed the strain relief
Thanks for the honest review...but I think I wait for the Neptune 4 Plus or maybe the Neptune 4 Max.
I don't really know much about the SOV 06 or plus. They look like fairly decent machines. As far as run out sensors go.. I've disabled them on every printer that has them. I had one bad one that would randomly stop the print. Lost a few prints because of it. When I finally figured out what it was, I just disabled it and have lived without it on every printer. It hasn't been an issue.
So a fix would be to swap out the board for a manta m5P or similar witth 2209 steppers and a cm4 or cb1 or pi4 add a color display, klipper it, and boom done.
Hi Daniel, are you reading the comments section? :)
Some of us would like to know what filament you are using... it looks stunning! Thanks
How is the SV06 Plus for noise? Fan noise? Stepper noise?
Great review! Thanks. I’m not ready for another printer, but the SV06 Plus is high on my list. Hopefully by the time I’m really ready, there will be an SV06 Plus V2 or something that addresses the issues. The top one I care about being having 5 drivers so the two Z motors are driven independently. I also care about how good they are about providing firmware builds. I always do my own builds, because I’ve had to. It’d be nice if they covered that well. Looks like the electronics case is plastic? I prefer metal, oh well. It’s still a very compelling option. I’m curious if Creality comes up with a response to this.
Thanks again!
Enough I3 machines. I like my SV06 however, the platform has the same limitations all bed slingers have along with limited ability to upgrade in the future. I’ll be excited when they update the SV05 & ender 5 platform
I'm kinda glad they didn't go for a 400mm tall z axis. Most printers don't do the last 100mm or so very well so the tamed down 340mm is probably for the best.
I'm looking at getting a CR-6 Max soon, wish me luck. It will be my third creality and I'm sure it's quality control will be about as good as my 2017 cr-10 and my ender 6... That is to say that there will probably be zero QC...
I'm curious if pausing the print to change colors also de-energizes the steppers as well. Deal breaker if so.
Filament run out sensor....I have always regarded it as an emergency brake that would take over if I was so damn clumsy that I start a print with too little filament on the roll. As I see it, it seems to work great for stopping printing which is the main thing. Unplug it….will it be safer then??!
I have the SV03 and absolutely love the printer, The main downfall I have with it is there is literally no spare parts or upgrades, I changed out the .4 nozzle to a .6 ans let me tell you that was a chore to align. The bed height does not have a lot of clearance as I found out swapping the useless springs to silicone and found the gantry does not move far enough down due to stepper motors stopping it. So the Z offset can not work as it reached the bottom. I had to add a spacer to raise it slightly to compensate for the extra squish. I want to get rid of the bowden tube for an all metal hotend for higher temp printing but that is proving useless. No chance of a swap from them, but according to Micro-Swiss they are working on a direct replacement but no timeline of release. I do live my mods for my ender5 and my ender3's. All in all the sovol printer is fairly consistent with prints, it is super slow on the z axiz though and the time it takes to run a 4x4 mesh is ridiculous compared to any of my other printers running Marlin2 compiled by me, or my TH3D unified on my Ender 5.
Turning off soft end stops will allow the 03 to set a negative z offset. th-cam.com/video/jFvgpHaLgj4/w-d-xo.html shows you how to do it.
Or if you have a btt skr board there's FW that sets it automatically on the FB group.
@@santefeshadow Its physically hits the end stops, can lower them. Its a design issue sadly. I have added the nylon sppacers and raised the bed up and works better than stock springs. If it was actually not warped I would swap to solid mounts and let the bltouch do its work. lol
I wait for the day we can unpack a printer, turn it on, update the firmware and print. Bambu is practically there but even the P1P is out of my price range I’m willing to spend right now. I love the hobby and enjoy seeing all the new printers but we still have so much work on our part to get these printers printing as advertised.
A Cura profile out of the box should not be something we have to tinker with trying to get the printer to print accurately. Thanks for your review I am hoping they release a printer that isn’t using the same driver for the Z axis.
TBH, I don't have a filament sensor ATM on either of my machines, and I'm not sure I'm going to put one on the Voron.
that brown metallic filament looks nice, what's the brand?
How did you get the Cura layout (@9:48) )where the categories are next to the settings vs the collapsable menu?
Slicer profiles are just a starting point. Different PLAs print differently. Ambient temp and humidity is different in different parts of the world. People assemble things slightly differently or use different stability tables. It's also not enclosed, leaving it more open to the ambient conditions. These are just examples but there are so many factors. This is why profiles are often just a starting point.
Good to know. Has someone put up a stl to fix the strain relief problem.
i've had similar issues with my new sv03. don't think i'd buy sovol again. any printer will require tuning and understanding mechanical and slicer nuances. but a printer should work pretty well out of the box with the manufacturer's profile.
Sorry some questions. context: I was planning to make "high stress" technical parts out of carbon/glass nylon. Did you run the same stress prints as the Sovol 6 review and how did it do? would you say the Plus is worth an extra $100? Did you buy the multi-extrusion add-on or was it provided for demo? Do you think adding a heating bed would be possible with this model (6 Plus)? Are the extrusion gears hardened metal or printed? Just trying to get a feel if it is worth buying over the sovol 6 which seems to be smoother. Thank you!
This is perfect for me, as I will switch it to a Duet board anyway
Just a thought, but is it possible that some of the issues that you witnessed were caused by working with a BETA unit instead of a released/final version? I still haven't received mine, but I also didn't see many of the issues that others saw with the early versions of the SV06 versus the unit that I received.
can you make a review on the ender 6?
I always wondered why Prusa never made a larger version of their cartesian printer, I thought it was because linear rails would not be good at longer lengths, however it seems increasing the diameter is the answer, or is uit, I am sure Prusa experinented with a larger version and if increasing the rail diameter was all that was needed then we would have had a Prusa Pro, I think there may be more to it, I guess time will tell.
They're stuck and slow to change. If they're not careful they will soon be obsolete...some say they already are.
So can you share the settings
You changed to optimizer printing?
I wonder if switching to the sovol klipper upgrade would solve the filament sensor issue?
New to 3D printing I bought the sv06 plus and am having problems but don’t know anything about adjusting the setting
@modbot can you share details on what's on top of z leadscrews? Is it just a bearing?
That works excellent compared to SV07 Plus; You get shocked by it, print quality is "blurred" with the heavy input shaping and bed is impossible to level -- on top of all those other issues you mention.
If I work mostly with like, Creality slicer, how much of a difference is the Solvol slicer as far as the speed aspect?
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8:22 shouldn't we just home X Y after reloading the filament before resuming an interrupted print?
As a newbie to 3D Printing, I do not want something I have to fiddle with right out of the box, so this printer would be a no-go for me
I have bad news for you then.
@@zdeneksc2895 Other than Slicer settings I have 2 3D printers that worked right out of the box, I did not have to do any modding to the printers themselves. Although I did think that I would have to mod the second one.
Which would you recommend for a beginner, the Sovol SV06 Plusm the Anycubic Kobra 2, or something else?
It's important to note that the nozzle is NOT a Volcano style since V6 Volcano nozzles are not compatible with it. It's a proprietary non standard high flow nozzle. The lack of a Z leadscrew sync. belt is also a bit of a letdown.
Would you recommend this over something like the P1P?
Can you share your settings you ended up with ?
Do these have live adjust z like my Prusa
Curious does it allow manual layer color changes?
How bad are the resonances? I top out at 90mm/sec before the x rattles on my regular 06
I never trust anyone's filament runout sensor, usually the first thing I unplug... The SV06 was definitely a machine in progress, looks like they did slight modifications to this one while still pushing it out the door. But then again I think it's pretty much what everybody does. Let the end user be the guinea pig.
Sovol Slicer needs a lot of work to work...properly. E.g. if you change the infill intensity, the infill line distance does not change and therefore nothing changes on the sliced model...
Amazing
Let's remember that was a beta not a production model. As per the note in the box the retraction should be set at point 5 mm that improves the quality no end For those saying just buy a Prusa why pay 4 times the price for a machine that is only marginally better at best. I have the SV06 and now the plus. Great bang for your buck.
I know this is a 6 month old topic but does anyone know if some of these issues have been addressed?
I don't get what the issue with the runout sensor is? If the printer thinks there's still filament it wll keep on running, right? So the print would need to be aborted anyway.... Sovol appear to have fixed the issue, as on my SV06 plus I was running a print the other day (I've had it about 2 weeks) and not long after starting, the filament snapped (not sure how this happened, I was out of the room at the time). The head had parked itself at the side and the panel said it was out of filament (as you'd exepct). I followed the steps on the panel, re-loaded the filament, and the printer happily carried on where it left off. There was a slight ridge in the print piece at that point, but nothing a slight scape wouldn't fix.
Hey do u still use the sovol 6 plus
How loud is it? I got a Ender 5 Plus and it's a bit too loud for my new environment, so I am looking for a new one.
how do you compare this to ender s1 plus ? SV06 on paper seems better to me is it the case in practice?
I'll edit this and post am update on my day and half print on my sv06
So. didn't go well?
This printer is very interesting!
Do u still use the sovol 6 plus
this machine is fantstic .. any firmware update video
can someone point me to the STL for that garbage truck? it looks cool
I got my sv06 and 2 weeks later this came put lol
The time it takes for the steppers to turn off when the printer pauses is a firmware issue, isn't it? If so, it should be an easy fix.
It is a firmware issue and should be a very easy fix.
2:49 > _"Heat Breek"_ 🤣
SV06 is a weird mix of amazing and suck, so this isn't surprising. I honestly don't see the lack of 2 independent Z drivers to be a problem. That plastic top beam and lack of brackets to keep the frame square are much bigger issues.
Isn’t it even worth it after all the issues compared to other printers?
This printer is a nightmare to print with TPU........ And i'm still mad they sent me a bent Z-axis rod. Took me a while to fix it.
no have problem with TPU .. print like a charm, the modelwas simple, maybe have chance
Tell you what, if they resolve these issues I'll probably be buying one. This is a near perfect machine for the price lol
Hey which motherboard wiĺl you recommend me octopus v1.1 oŕ
BIGTREETECH Manta M4P/M8P/M5P Control Board
m600 works?
As a person with a wanhao i3, I really don't care about getting a printer upgrade that is only a change in size. Something like core xy and fast, even a voron 0.2 with a small build area, is the minimum for me.
Thanks for pointing out the drawbacks. Many reviewers are review wheelies and can't be trusted.
Sovol SV06 plus VS Elegoo neptune pro 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
any update from sovol?
They fixed the strain relief and they said they would fix the runout sensor stop a couple months ago so it should be fixed.
@@802Garage I have just ordered one, it should arrive during this week, I will let you know if they really did it :)
@@g.s.3389did they solve it?
Do you receive reimbursement for reviewing printers ?
Only in the form of affiliate sales if the store offers it. If I have an affiliate links I will always mark it as (AFF).
oh I hate inductive probes tho. Touch based are so much better
(~MY EYEBROW WENT UP BIGGER, back down, still not a Prusa) So, please consider this fireside chatting not yelling or keyboard warrior. You believe the manufacturer should make sure everything works? Kinda what you said, hey, me too!, but what we have been getting is much like everything else rush to release without testing or that quality check and let the public test it, and when it's deemed a failure we have a country full of satellite scratch and dent places ready to receive and resell for discounts, no that's not a bad thing, and it's better than a landfill. But honesty and integrity it lacks like that Swedish table used on my enclosures. I know this happens because I work on an LTL dock for one of the largest US carriers. But I love to tinker! That's what brings me to your videos and to the fireside chatbox! It would be neat if they made the dual print head on this! man, that I would love.
th-cam.com/video/DQ_2vkT-wUk/w-d-xo.html
For some reason I really like the idea of someone printing out little turds to test their new entry level-mid level printer.
The only thing I see on this printer that I personally like, is the alignment guides for the flex plate, that's a really nice simple thing that all printers should have, so credit where is due, the rest of it though, looks like it come from the 20th century, personally I think the Kingroon KP5L is much better value for money printer, mainly due to it being made from metal.
So it is equipped with an all metal nozzle 300c but with a bed that maxes out at 100c and in reality only reaches 90c, wtf!
I don't understand these companies, always a big miss in the protocol.
When would you need a bed over 90C? Usually the max recommended for nylon.
@@802Garage The glass transition temperature (Tg) is when plastic changes from a solid to a more rubbery state (but not melted). It is recommended to set the heated bed temperature slightly above the Tg.
Going too high above this temperature will result in a more significant temperature gradient, and going too low will not offer improved bed adhesion. The glass transition temperature for ABS is 105 °C, so a heated bed temperature of 110 °C should suffice.
@@dejedejsson That's the high end yeah, but generally you want an enclosed printer for the best ABS prints anyways. Adding an enclosure to this I'm sure it would still handle ABS.
I think that if people can't calibrate their printer then hobby 3d printing isn't for them and they should buy themselves bambu lab which does everything for them. Ender is still considered as good begginer printer and it wasn t any better optimized in firmware than this one...