The Lebel is Meta and that's okay

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  • @HomeReel
    @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Wellness check: how ya doing?
    edit: hard times are followed by good times boys, hang in there

    • @lucas-fh3me
      @lucas-fh3me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      fine, thanks for asking

    • @telphex4471
      @telphex4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I haven’t won a game in four days. Otherwise fine

    • @TapdotWater
      @TapdotWater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Moving into my first apartment today, exhausted. Buuuut got my first prestige in hunt yesterday, so I'm happy

    • @0p32
      @0p32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hate Hunt and hunt hates me

    • @chowderpower7192
      @chowderpower7192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I've been struggling lately... I've been going from one thing to another, to where I can hardly save up any money... I'm living very paycheck to paycheck right now, and it's very stressful. Watching your videos does help put a smile on my face though.

  • @teagenbarnett6269
    @teagenbarnett6269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    Fun Lebel fact, while the rifles magazine only holds 8 shots the 10 shot capacity isn’t inaccurate and is shown correctly in game. By lowering the loading level and resting a cartridge on top and then loading a cartridge into the chamber the rifle can hold 10 shots. This was never accepted by the French military though as the rifle has no manual safety

    • @psycosanches589
      @psycosanches589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I'm pretty sure that lead to a practice of French Soldiers loading up the 8 or 9 then, when they were expecting battle, open the bolt and drop the last 1 or 2 in there.

    • @teagenbarnett6269
      @teagenbarnett6269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@psycosanches589 I’m sure you’re right, I should’ve specified that it wasn’t accepted in the official manual or arms. If I had to fight that god awful reload I’d want as many in the gun as I could get

    • @psycosanches589
      @psycosanches589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teagenbarnett6269 I was just adding it as some some trivia

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Battlefield 1 does that too Im fairly certain, the reload on the Lebel has a two-stage bit where you cram two extra rounds in

    • @teagenbarnett6269
      @teagenbarnett6269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KillerOrca on a partial reload yes, the elevator is lowered, one round placed on it and another in the chamber. Very cool detail

  • @kobi399
    @kobi399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Fun Fact: The velocity diffrence between the mosin and the lebel is so little that at 1000m the lebel round is less than 13ms faster, witch means that at 60fps they impact in the same frame and thus it makes no difrence.

    • @eliaquadarella2948
      @eliaquadarella2948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      *60 frames - me, with more than 2k hours in the game on PS4, elaborates, starts laughing, then cries and roll over

    • @Fwright88
      @Fwright88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just out of curiosity, is the collision detection running at 60Hz? I've never really thought about it before

    • @Hapetiitti
      @Hapetiitti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And even then, doesn't long ammo despawn at 500m? They raised it from 300m a year ago in 1.6, but has it been raised even higher since?

    • @andrewcollins6701
      @andrewcollins6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Servers don't refresh by your fps, they have a tickrate that's independent of fps. I believe hunt's tickrate is 80hz

    • @lred1383
      @lred1383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@andrewcollins6701 I guess that means at about 1000m away the Lebel will hit exactly one tick earlier than a Mosin. Oh wait, bullets don't even fly that far. Oops.

  • @SultanOfAwesomeness
    @SultanOfAwesomeness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    One thing I love about Hunt is that it makes bolt actions feel so weighty and powerful. In most shooters, bolt actions are usually towards the bottom of any sort of unlock tree or are some sort of budget option, with automatic weapons taking the top spots. Here, it’s amazing how high- tech and impactful guns like the Lebel feel, and when you’re up against one, it can be terrifying. Really puts things into perspective.

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      1886 wouldnt be too far off from when this game takes place, would it? The Lebel would be top of the line for this time period.

    • @anonvideo738
      @anonvideo738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, because most games take place in a later time period where bolt actions are outdated. So they speed up the animation (which makes it feel less chunky) to make them somewhat competitive against semi and full auto weapons. Sure, WW2 games should have a lot of them since not everyone could get the newer semi-autos, but in games like COD people can pick whatever.

    • @lucasschigart2721
      @lucasschigart2721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@KillerOrca Hunt is set in 1895. so yeah. almost all weapons fit nicly in there. the only thing that realy bothers me is the Romero Alamo, because the Alofs Device was patented 30 years later in the 1920. just a minor flavor missfit.

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lucasschigart2721 This is a universe with old gods and weird shit in the swamps so I’m willing to suspend disbelief for it XD

    • @jeffreymonsell659
      @jeffreymonsell659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah. I'm so sick of automatic weapons in shooters. But I've always preferred semi-auto/bolt action anyway. My favorite gun in Halo was always the Covenant Carbine.

  • @maxfrankel5139
    @maxfrankel5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Fun fact: back in beta, black powder smoke was a MUCH more important a factor to consider; if you emptied an uppercut while peeking a window for example, it was basically impossible to see through the smog for several seconds, sort of a built-in anti camping incentive. People hated it however and it got nerfed pretty hard. Sad.

    • @N0031inq
      @N0031inq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I miss old Hunt. Weapons were also way harder to use so you saw more melee builds.

    • @akaroth7542
      @akaroth7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang, wish that stayed

    • @bljet4388
      @bljet4388 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N0031inq u see people talk about it but in what way were they harder to use?

    • @N0031inq
      @N0031inq ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bljet4388 a lot more sway and much slower to get into aim down sight. Couldnt move quickly after going in ADS and you could not switch weapons fast. There were fewer guns back then and most were blackpowder weapons and had huge smoke and fire effects when firing which meant it was hard to keep on target after shooting.
      The game has become a lot faster and more about movement and quick shots. Also all the new guns added to the game has changed it completely with spam and slugs and all that changing how the gameplay works.
      But that is just a few things. Overall the game is better now but just very different and I do miss the old shooting but I understand most people would hate it for being clonky and hard / annoying.

    • @bljet4388
      @bljet4388 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@N0031inq interesting but that way single shot rifles would have been useless cuz you cant quickswitch to your sidearm, unless they had buffed damage and all that. Game just needs to be watered down for balance.

  • @archer260
    @archer260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The Smokeless Powder is also the reason guns like the Mosin, Lebel, and Berthier have such high muzzle velocities. Black powder is unable to send projectiles downrange that fast.

    • @literallyasneeze2135
      @literallyasneeze2135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The spitzer rounds is what the real muzzle velocity should be. Around 3000 feet per second.

    • @lambsauce5312
      @lambsauce5312 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@literallyasneeze2135spritzer are supposed to be more aerodynamic and lighter tho

    • @lambsauce5312
      @lambsauce5312 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@literallyasneeze2135also thanks phone for autocorrecting spitzer

    • @lambsauce5312
      @lambsauce5312 ปีที่แล้ว

      "unable" isn't true
      It is if there's enough/the projectile is light enough

    • @literallyasneeze2135
      @literallyasneeze2135 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lambsauce5312 Yes? And?

  • @F4Wildcat
    @F4Wildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    The lebel is the gun i love in Hunt:showdown and the gun i hated when i was allowed to fire it at the gun range 10 years ago. The loading was horrible, the bolt was sticky because of the rimmed cartidge and the sights were tiny.

    • @no-legjohnny3691
      @no-legjohnny3691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It was a brilliant rifle for the time of its invention (around the time that Hunt takes place), but in comparison to arms made only a decade after it (let alone 140 years), it really did grow long in the tooth quickly as the kinks with repeating rifles were worked out. Thus, the Lebel was left serving in parallel with those later models, but was stuck with the issues that come with being "the first".

    • @F4Wildcat
      @F4Wildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@no-legjohnny3691 And the thing is. The french almost did it correctly. Because the inventors of the 8mm lebel and smokeless were gonna work on a brand new rifle wich had an internal magazine fed with a charger and a whole new bolt design. But frances prime ministet demanded a rifle...any rifle, in 5 months.
      So they took the existing kropatchek design and elements from the grass rifle and bam= lebel.

    • @Peagaporto
      @Peagaporto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@no-legjohnny3691 Same with the "Specter" (Spencer) shotgun, that loading elevator is weird but I get why they did it like that at the time.

    • @jjfro
      @jjfro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was me with the Berthier. I had the not so fortunate opportunity to fire one last month. I am pretty experienced and that thing still bruised me for a week. Holy kick

    • @F4Wildcat
      @F4Wildcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jjfro i fired a Berthier Rifle and that was a nice shooting rifle! But the carbine? The mousqeton? BAH!
      The worst recoill from a bolt gun was a steyr M95/30 stutzen i fired in Luxembourgh. I think my shoulder cracked that day

  • @itszaque
    @itszaque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This whole video just makes sense, after toiling through the doldrums of medium ammo homereel has returned to the comfy, plush and warm embrace of long ammo.

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      if I sound chipper, long ammo is just a nice respite from the worse ammo types

  • @stillfrosty1413
    @stillfrosty1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It never registered that the lebel didn't pop smoke after shooting
    which was pissing me off with most other guns

    • @crezzyt
      @crezzyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And thats realistic as well, the lebel was the first ever smokeless powder using rifle ;)
      Edit, he just said it, i must say sorry and beg you to forgive me my sins!

  • @thingthingsss
    @thingthingsss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I would absolutely love it if they added a feature to enable the magazine cut-off in the Lebel variants that aren't the aperture. Like, imagine how cool it would be to hit the X button so that the rifle was essentially a single shot for your 5 reserve ammo rounds, then hit X again so that you could run the loaded ammo for a faster fire rate. It also would be entirely accurate to how the actual rifle works, too.

  • @rexbababa
    @rexbababa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not gunna lie, I’m this close to taking an electric lamp into scupper at night.

  • @goger7558
    @goger7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how it cut away from you absolutely slaughtering that guy with the talon to an ad, like it was too graphic for television. Great work as always dude, keep it up!

  • @aninterestingname4907
    @aninterestingname4907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    watching these as a console player is always cool, cause seeing a lebel marksman on console usually means alot of missed shots and running away, but on pc it seems like a french hunters' wet dream

    • @jameslaubenthal9061
      @jameslaubenthal9061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk what your talking about dude Lebel Marksman is headshot after headshot at high mmr

  • @TheGreatMoonFrog
    @TheGreatMoonFrog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Definitely my favorite long ammo rifle. I've been taking it with t he sparks pistol for a MASSIVE ammo reserve.

  • @kneemerls
    @kneemerls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I'm using apertures since I do love the field of vision outside the sight it give compared to the other sights, but didn't know that it would be made better with the trait Steady Aim ! Thanks for that tip. x)

  • @theshadesofreal9372
    @theshadesofreal9372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Only Meta Gun I have some respect and love for. Also, @HomeReel, at 5:25? you are everything I loathe in this world

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      lol this comment got held for review by TH-cam

  • @federicobellavista634
    @federicobellavista634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Long ammo users are either the most skilled marksmen in existence, or the slimiest, filthiest little rats, creeping in the attics of buildings or in the crevices of old barns.
    Still, this video makes me want to play the Lebel even if I turn into a rat.

    • @pfirestarter29
      @pfirestarter29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need to call out my whole existence, lemme scurry in peace while I nibble on your heels...granted, missing most of my shots.

    • @federicobellavista634
      @federicobellavista634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pfirestarter29 Me: "Look at that noob with long ammo! He's missing all his shots! What a scrub..."
      Also me, missing an entire volley of Caldwell Conversion Chain with fan fire at point blank range: *Bruh*

  • @tiramin
    @tiramin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks to listen to my feedback even tho it was a minor change

    • @CetomimusGillii
      @CetomimusGillii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I think the Bert needs to cost the same as the Lebel, I think it's hard to deny that it's a side-grade at worst. While they're at it, all T3 rifles could probably use a ~20% price increase. At 1.3 KD, I'm not exceptionally good, yet I have usually around $10k as I prestige, despite running almost nothing but Bert ripostes and deadeyes (with the occasional Lebel Talon because Augur) past 62. Personally, I doubt the pick rate would even noticeably drop until a price hike exceeded 25%.
      There is NO downside besides ammo reserves, and that only really affects people like me with below average aim. So I just take the Bert, whose 4-5 shots per box is fairly comfy without an Uppercut, and downright cushy with one

    • @tiramin
      @tiramin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CetomimusGillii I honestly don't care about losing bullets with Bert when doing a 1 to 3 partial reload because how fast it is, unless I see I'll be in a long fight really needing that ammo.
      Either Berthier should be more expensive or the mosing more cheap, the price difference is too high. (This leads me to use the mosin only if it's the obrez mace variant)

    • @CetomimusGillii
      @CetomimusGillii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiramin I agree with all that. The Mace is amazing with a bow, but I prefer the deadeye to the sniper, the riposte to the bayonet, and the en bloc clip reload to the stripper clip reload.Only downside was getting used to not automatically mashing R to top up after taking single shots.
      But on top of all that's they aren't really in even footing anyway because you get the Bert 10 levels earlier, so you have all the nice variants by the time you get the base Mosin. So yeah, I only end up taking contraband full-length Mosins.
      Bert could definitely use a price increase, and/or perhaps an unlock level increase, as of now it's over-performing for $356 at lvl62.

  • @royalsoldierofdrangleic4577
    @royalsoldierofdrangleic4577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I never played hunt but i love the weapons in this game for the looks and variety, and i never shot a firearm but i love the Lebel for the looks and how it works. Too bad they did not make a bayonette version of the Lebel, cause the "Rosalie" is a typical thing of these rifle, but it might be redundant with the talon version.
    Also i think a cool rifle to add would be Krag Jorgensen. You can load it with a round chambered when you don't dump the entire magazine (kinda like the sidegate guns but you need to close the magazine for repeat fire not just work the action). And one of the version could be a swift with the krag speedloader.

    • @Peagaporto
      @Peagaporto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not really rendundant, winfield got both and they operate quite differently.

    • @gergokerekes4550
      @gergokerekes4550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, the krag is rather interisting, you just put the rounds into its hopper and it does the rest.

    • @nd_gunslinger_6264
      @nd_gunslinger_6264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 30-40 Krag would be amazing, I own one IRL and I love shooting it whenever I have the time

    • @nd_gunslinger_6264
      @nd_gunslinger_6264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I hope they add the Chauchat machine gun to combat the Mosin Atvomat, the Chauchat already has a very slow fire rate so I think that and maybe mounted Gatling with a slow reload and stick magazines or Puckle guns to help kill bosses and guard the bounty with limited ammo count would be kinda fun

    • @shoelessbandit1581
      @shoelessbandit1581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nd_gunslinger_6264 bit of the wrong time period for the chauchat my guy

  • @callsign_lucky9214
    @callsign_lucky9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lebel talon + sparks pistol was what I was rocking with for a bit. Enough ammo for just about any engagement and a close range option in the form of a blade on a gun.

  • @CheeseyBreezey
    @CheeseyBreezey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "The forbidden play style" And "If you play like this seek help" are two of the most accurate statements I can think of when it comes to snipers. especially in this game.

  • @fritzflitz
    @fritzflitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i really enjoy the lebel lately aswell, even more than the mosin for some reason. either the normal one or the marksman variant

  • @BraindeadCRY
    @BraindeadCRY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lebel Apperture is just a regular lebel that requires me to press X at the beginning of the match once

  • @activeentropy
    @activeentropy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To this day the only thing I can think of while playing the lebel in hunt is that the reload animation is wrong. They shove 9 rounds in the tube mag, it only holds 8. 8 in the tube, 1 on the lifter, 1 in the chamber. Hunt has it as 9 in the tube then 1 on the lifter, you wouldn't be able to fit 9 in the tube.

  • @Sadeyr
    @Sadeyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing you definitely want to keep in mind with the lebel is that, like most guns that lose a bullet, you can hit and hold R after a shot to instantly load another round, not needing to empty the gun or lose a bullet in order to reload, with no need for bulletgrubber. ALSO, this is a finnicky mechanic and doesn't always work out. So to make sure it does it right, hold the fire button(left click) down after firing, you will not automatically ready the next round, and can hit R at any point while holding down left click to reload without wasting a bullet. This is much less glitchy than firing and holding R, so I would use this method.

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's in the video!

    • @Sadeyr
      @Sadeyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomeReel It is? I must've missed the tidbit!

    • @freaki0734
      @freaki0734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      another way to avoid the chambering is to switch to another gun after firing

    • @Tes_1
      @Tes_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I missed this in the video, this is a great tip!

  • @bambi20082148
    @bambi20082148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fucking love that the talon variants got buffed, specially since the Lebel Talon trial skin is so good and a medium flex

  • @SweatyMcSweaters
    @SweatyMcSweaters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used the Spitzer marksman to finish the summon for Spitzer kills. I favor it now more than any sniper in the game. Fantastic.

  • @artyomnikulenko7096
    @artyomnikulenko7096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    TIL you can delay the bolt cycle by holding LMB, which also allows to preserve a bullet on partial reloads. That is awesome

  • @edwardlane5637
    @edwardlane5637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel a few small nerfs to long ammo would help the game more than harm it. :)
    I love these weapon guides - perhaps a shotgun or pistol one next?

    • @N0031inq
      @N0031inq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no no its not stale that long ammo meta has been king since EA. Smokeless weapons should be super powerful and I feel they should buff them even more but then give them the Dolch treatment aka make them fire special ammo by default.

  • @TheRageaholic
    @TheRageaholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know the Lebel is *supposed* to be 'Meta', but judging by sample size, it seems like the Vetterli is far more ubiquitous.
    The game needs a new bolt action rifle, though. We get 90 different shotguns and only four bolt-actions?

  • @KobraKai69
    @KobraKai69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ammo pickups, one of the greatest weaknesses of the Lebel. You get 1-2 bullets vs 2-3 on the Mosin on an ammo crate.

  • @d4dave669
    @d4dave669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doing well after a long week. Happy that its Friday and your video is up!

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hey buddy, thanks for adding your flare to the intro. WE GOT A CLIP BABY!

  • @patbe5877
    @patbe5877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You killed me with the smokeless powder joke.

  • @aidster77
    @aidster77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im doing good man, had a job interview today and got a call in the middle of a hunt round to say I got the job! that one was worth afking for lol. even extracted with bounty and I didn't even do anything

  • @ac-384
    @ac-384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spitzer on lebel marksman just turns hunt into a point and click adventure game

  • @onaucc9899
    @onaucc9899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lebel Diopter is my favorite gun in the game.
    When you press X, you can toggle the Diopter, as mentioned here. I didn't know that for a long time, and thus thought Diopter variants were complete trash.
    That nice skin with the little flowers helps a lot, too. :)

  • @Kiabeta
    @Kiabeta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the Lebel I prefer it over the Mosin because of the lower price, and needing to reload less often.

    • @somedude1324
      @somedude1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, it’s great. Only thing is the visual of the “door knob” on the side is ugly to me.

    • @Benethor
      @Benethor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the Mosin reload is basically instant when you reload the whole clip

    • @Kiabeta
      @Kiabeta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Benethor I guess, but being able to shoot continuasly is amazing, also almost 100 Hunt dollars less really ads up especially when you factor in an upercut and such

    • @Benethor
      @Benethor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kiabeta I never buy either of the weapons, i just pick them up and collect them to be honest :D
      I think i have about 30 Uppercuts right now

  • @Scribbles69
    @Scribbles69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for whatever reason i cant use any aperture sight cuz they make me feel sick i guess its just the blurry edges that mess with me

  • @evanfishsticks8010
    @evanfishsticks8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm doing alright, thanks for asking Home! College starts in three days, and I transferred to a different school that I think will make me much happier than I was last year. Also a friend of mine is adopting kittens soon so I'll get to meet and play with them.
    To be honest the wellness check was a little unexpected, because you said you'd do one if I ever stopped requesting Bomb Lance videos, and that hasn't happened yet. Bomb Lance guide when?

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      figured we could all use a little wellness check. College is a great time in life, I hope you make some good experiences this semester :) tbh I have exactly ONE bomblance clip so I'll have to up those numbers. Before 2022 is over, maybe the Halloween episode? idk

  • @andyfrom1993
    @andyfrom1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still prefer the Mosin for the ammo returns from boxes. Just my opinion lol

  • @pingufan1239
    @pingufan1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just a heads up, Spitzer ammo also maintains better damage over distance compared to base long ammo. After 100 meters you start dealing more damage than long ammo, so the further you go out, the more effective it is. I actually respect you for not knowing this because it means you aren’t a seasoned Spitzer user (AKA, a virgin)

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But wouldn't you knowing that mean you're a virgin?

  • @gallakailancer3692
    @gallakailancer3692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sight post is pretty good imo, its the kind I do well with anyways, the guns I nail headshots the most with are the scottfield and the lebel.

  • @mafiacat88
    @mafiacat88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gotta say, when I'm feeling like using a meta gun-this is it.
    It's been probably my favourite all-round rifle since I started playing the game; though that said, I don't actually bring it all that often.
    It's just...very expensive, and I find it far more satisfying to get kills with the springfield or the martini (or even the centennial. Fear me and my paper bullets).
    I will say it's kind of interesting how much more often I see moisins on bodies compared to lebels though, considering how similar they are.

  • @hungryhedgehog4201
    @hungryhedgehog4201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Lebel suffers from "early adopters" syndrome, especially with the catrige. Instead of developing a completely new catrige the french used their current 11mm Gras round and necked that down to 8mm which is why the round is so chonky. That is fine in a tube mag but the odd shape bit them in the ass later on. Stacking the round will lead to it form a circle (like with other tapered rounds like the 7.62x39 ak 47 rounds which is why ak mags look like that) which leads to some logisitcal problems if you want to for example make a rifle with a stacked internal mag and stripper clips (liek the berthier) or god forbid a magfed LMG (like the chauchat).

  • @snapjitzy
    @snapjitzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a mosin fan I wanna get more accurate with the lebel. Should I put the middle "spike" on my targets head/chest or rest the side" pieces" on my enemy's shoulders?

  • @robertoblarasin1846
    @robertoblarasin1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a review! Clear, useful, fun and with interesting details (smokeless powder). GREAT! Thanks

  • @asumjessen2013
    @asumjessen2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun Fact: The Lebel was rushed though development upon the invention of smokeless power. The French wanted desperately to field this new powder in a spitzer cartrage to trump every other rifle out there, so took the reciever of an old french single shot bolt action needle rifle, a cheap tube magazine and fashoned the Lebel out of it. It only lasted a year before Mauser would come out with a better smokelss powder rifle, and later the British with a faster 10 round box magazine rifle. Both cycling rounds far faster.
    So it is entirely on point for the Lebel to be outclassed by better designs like the Mosin & Berthier in game.

  • @GeefYT
    @GeefYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You used my weapon skin AND commented on the smoke less rounds? Have a like and a sub mate.
    Also talking about cryteks attention to detail. The lebel had a notoriously hard bolt to move when trying to chamber a round. Compared to the mosin anyway. Next time you fire the lebel notice how hard your character has to wrench the bolt back with a lot of strength. The whole gun shifts, unlike the mosin where it's a casual flick. It's a small, but really appreciated detail.
    Nice work mate.

  • @gunthersunshine9418
    @gunthersunshine9418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yesterday i had a double kill with one hit of the talon. its so nice :'D

  • @clarkmeyer7211
    @clarkmeyer7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do prefer the mosin ngl but lebel is pretty cool. it just takes a lot more thought into your engagements.

  • @kato093
    @kato093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mmm...the lebel..i started with the lebel being my least favorite, using mosin a lot more. Then i switched to the berthier because it was a lot cheaper, had a super fast reload and ammo boxes gave more ammo making it the definitive long ammo rifle. I like the iron sights too, while not as good as the mosin, i still like them more than the lebel.
    But then the berthier suddenly stopped working for me for some reason.
    Idk, maybe it's the iron sights, it's just so hard for me to hit shit with it.
    Meanwhile, i used to hate the iron sights of the lebel but then i began to like them more than the berthier.
    So right now the lebel is after mosin and berthier is last.
    So wierd. And mosin is still king. No way around it. Has 5 shots, 10 in reserves, the best iron sights, highest damage, really fast reload. Definetly way worth the 200$ to 150$ more.
    However the lebel sounds better for me. Also, maybe because of the shitty iron sights and the sound, it feels the best when getting headshots.
    Hands down the best feeling gun to get headshots alongside the uppercut.

  • @kepipek6598
    @kepipek6598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm addicted to the Nitro and need help.
    Oh also fun fact you probably new, the reason why you get so little ammo from ammo crates is the same reason why you get so little for the Nitro and Dolch, because of "Natural" reserve ammo. Which is how much you have when the gun (and any guns stackin ammo with it are full) this is why whilst empty dual uppercuts and an Avto have the same amount of reserve ammo as empty dual Sparks pistols with an avto. If you have sparks pistols you get more ammo out of crates.

  • @solidus1995
    @solidus1995 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh I can feel the velocity difference on the lebel, idc what bs people talk about. I also think it has cleaner sights than the Mosin. Makes target acquisition more efficient. Just wish it had clips.

  • @jondabutitikalr559
    @jondabutitikalr559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I wish is they make the iron sight more usable at longer ranges like the Mosin. Otm it's very blocky

  • @JackRabbit41
    @JackRabbit41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the wellness check, very wishy washy at the moment. Some things are looking up, some not. I do wish my pc could run hunt a bit better tho :c enjoy your videos either way and cant wait to see more. Keep it up c:

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish my computer ran it better too :(

  • @gerami8902
    @gerami8902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a minute, Sparks PISTOL? A man leaves for 7 months of deployment and comes back to a new favorite thing

  • @martinford4553
    @martinford4553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wasn't expecting Pep to be in a lebel video.

  • @Rixon-qw4fo
    @Rixon-qw4fo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Lebel but some time ago i developed weird quirk to use weird guns like berthier
    And since that time i only use Berthier for my long ammo playstyle
    If not that i just roll with winfield centennial or talon.
    But lebel was my first rifle and i still enjoy using it wven when i miss every shot because i got used to levering all day long xD

  • @writtenworlds
    @writtenworlds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait I'm confused, doesn't the Lebel reload from stripper clips? I mean, the one in real life definitely does, but in game, I could have sworn I've seen a stripper clip reload not just on empty, but if you are missing 5 or more cartridges.

    • @Yawyna124
      @Yawyna124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Lebel 1886 has a tubular magazine and thus cannot be loaded directly from a stripper clip as you would with a weapon with a box magazine such as the mosin nagant. This is the same as it is in real life. The way you speed-load tubular magazines is with a tube loader as you see with the Winnie swift which I don't think exists for the lebel.

    • @writtenworlds
      @writtenworlds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yawyna124 Ah, tube mag, got it. Thanks man.

    • @Yawyna124
      @Yawyna124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@writtenworlds mmmhmm. It is like the Winnie. The entire length of the Lebel m1886 under the barrel is one big, long, ammo magazine.

  • @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
    @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are a worse shot, the winfield swift with FMJ is a good choice also.

  • @gerami8902
    @gerami8902 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got off deployment today. Gonna try n get some clips tommorrow. Too late for submissions for this month?

  • @GMoneyGonz
    @GMoneyGonz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the Aperture. I don't see a reason to pick the normal Lebel in any scenario (as long as you have the money and it is unlocked). I keep the sight flipped down until I spot something in the distance, and ALL scopes obscure some of your vision, so that's not a valid complaint. So, its a Lebel with a little extra optional mag with no additional drawbacks. Win win!

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      personal preference is fine. I think the talon variant will get you out of more binds than the aperture but just my opinion

    • @pixelfrog8281
      @pixelfrog8281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even know why, but I just hit the most insane flickshots with it

    • @frusty7217
      @frusty7217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the apperture obsures the most of all scopes is why, other scopes atleast at the sides you you have a clear view with the apperture you kinda need to be on point or theyll basically be impossible to spot especially if theres any sort of brush i also just hate scopes in general i can easily make do with irons even at like 100 meters

  • @ToxicPancake88
    @ToxicPancake88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wellness check before home uploads: ☹️
    Wellness check after home uploads: 🙂

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have I mentioned you do concepts cooler than anyone else?

    • @ToxicPancake88
      @ToxicPancake88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HomeReel well now you’re making *me* blush ❤️

  • @gbyjrjn
    @gbyjrjn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First clip: no flinching

  • @markd774
    @markd774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can for the info, stayed for the commentary :)

  • @Wastelander1337
    @Wastelander1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My only gripe with it is that those irons are just chunky enough to make it hard to aim with, at least for me
    Maybe I used the Winfield so much that I got spoiled, but if I'm gonna shill out for a meta long ammo gun I'm gonna go mosin just for the nice little stick irons

    • @stangerr0267
      @stangerr0267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. The iron sights are just too uncomfortable for me to use the Lebel a lot

  • @psycosanches589
    @psycosanches589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the lebel but I just can't bring myself to run it without a long ammo secondary. The ammo economy is just way too awful and the fact you got 2 rounds off 3 boxes is nothing short of a miracle because the ammo pick up is suppose to be like 90% for 1 and 10% for 2. Having to go through so many boxes just to get one full mag back just hurts way too much. ESPECIALLY with how tight ammo in hunt is for the majority of weapons.

  • @snapjitzy
    @snapjitzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite gun since I started playing 2 years ago. everyone thinks I'm crazy for picking it over the mosin but there's just something about it.

  • @shiekastate
    @shiekastate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the lebel but the reload animation being incorrect to this day still bothers me.
    It reloads like there's 9 bullets in the tube and 1 on the elevator, but it should be 8 tube, 1 on elevator, 1 in chamber. So the little pullback animation to bring up the elevator is completely unnecessary as a bullet would have to be in the chamber for it to hold 10 bullets.

  • @sheena1521
    @sheena1521 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hated this gun at first but once I figured out the iron sights I fell in love. It's the cleanest bolt action imo.
    Lebel > Mosin

  • @Im12andwatisdis
    @Im12andwatisdis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buying spitzer and you get complaints from the official discord.
    This is very true, spot on.

  • @johannlefering3345
    @johannlefering3345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure I get the point about the ammo capacity. The 3 long ammo bolt action rifles all have 15 bullets. The berthier has 3/12, mosin has 5/10 and lebel has 10/5. So what's the deal ?

    • @mud074
      @mud074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ammo resupply is based off of reserve ammo cap. So the Lebel gets far less ammo from boxes compared to a Berthier.

    • @johannlefering3345
      @johannlefering3345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mud074 Oh, I didn't know that, thanks. But why though? Seems like a weird way to balance weapons.

  • @DeathStrikeVirus
    @DeathStrikeVirus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian from Forgotten Weapons liked this.

  • @lexsdragon1554
    @lexsdragon1554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to play year ago, and there was no lebel meta. Can somebody explain why is it now please?

  • @robro2214
    @robro2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait til he hears about the mosin

  • @Suileglas0415
    @Suileglas0415 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a Lebel swift make sense or no?

  • @The.Reilly
    @The.Reilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:46 Why does his medkit heal 100 health?

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doctor trait, 8 points

    • @The.Reilly
      @The.Reilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh, never knew that was a thing. Thanks man.

  • @thomasstewart1380
    @thomasstewart1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Lebel, but I have found that it and the Mosin make the game boring for me. They are just so much stronger than everything else, that they don't let gunfights last an enjoyable length of time or make me feel like I earned my kills. Vetterli nails the sweet spot for me. It's still competitive, but not too strong that I feel slimy.

    • @zedaf872
      @zedaf872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t feel like the mosin and lebel are op but I do understand what you mean with it being boring. they aren’t as OP or meta as many people say it is. since it is literally outclassed by most weapons that compound fights take place in.

    • @thomasstewart1380
      @thomasstewart1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zedaf872 I mean. They are as OP as shotguns. It is just range dependent. I'm also being sarcastic when I say OP, but when it comes down to it, they're the closest to OP in the game. They just outperform all other rifles at all ranges to the point you're at a disadvantage not picking them if you plan to use something that isn't a shotgun, crossbow, or bow. I think the only exception is like you said, inside compounds, but that really only applies to compact if you have FMJs. Medium is usually fine though. But yeah, my main thing is that they're just boring. They've been the meta since before the game even released. So I'm actually happy that shotguns with slugs are the new meta. Even if it's more annoying, it's at least different.

    • @zedaf872
      @zedaf872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasstewart1380 shotguns aren’t op until you add slugs. I used shotguns and I hit some dude twice point blank and didn’t die. Since you use the vetterli you should use the bayonet variant as I’ve trio wiped shotgun campers with it.

    • @zedaf872
      @zedaf872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasstewart1380 I mean it may outclass them in range but every weapon with compact ammo and medium ammo are faster than them so if you can hit your shots you can definetly murder them before they even land the first shot.

    • @thomasstewart1380
      @thomasstewart1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zedaf872 I mean, theoretically. But in practice, given that shots are usually a pattern of peek, fire, cover, move, and repeat, fire rate usually doesn't play into it as much. But the damage is close enough in a compound, their higher damage and range isn't as big of a factor. At least in my experience. Bouncing between 5 and 6 star lobbies, I've gotten used to only running into long ammo or slugs. Gone are the days of saber duels for me.

  • @Chainsawwed
    @Chainsawwed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A weapon that is both fantastic stats wise and completely unsatisfying to use. I'll take the Berthier over any other long ammo except maybe a Sparks Silenced in duos.

  • @kaibalsam1700
    @kaibalsam1700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Song of the Onion intensifies

  • @wotwott2319
    @wotwott2319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny how the French built the Lebel and then was like "okay this took too long to reload" and just made a gun that only fires 3 shots.

    • @Yawyna124
      @Yawyna124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not just that it has a smaller magazine, but also that the Berthier rifle has an en-bloc clip.

  • @coldsoul4416
    @coldsoul4416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where’s the uppercut video?

  • @davidkocur7562
    @davidkocur7562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lebel is a monster in qp. especialy if you find one later on.
    lebel marksman is incredible disgusting

  • @joshuaturcotte6724
    @joshuaturcotte6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find the Berthier Carbine to be a great French rifle as the sights are easy to read and its got unique features. While I do like Lebel and mosins in other games I find them hard to work cause the sights on the guns are so fucking akward and with dodgy hit-reg I can at LEAST have a good rifle as a choice. Blah blah buggy personal hitbox, I've stacked lobbies with a berthier so I got np running it. I personally am not a fan of long rifle meta that was introduced with 1.0 fuck up (it wasnt an update, it was a feature creep to get the CoD fanboys to buy in), the only thing that was good from 1.0 was the fucking HP going from 100 on hunter start to 150 for all hunter teirs. Scopes wernt needed, and the velocity difference ment headshots were skill. Now we got a fucked up arm hitbox (bigger then it should be since its bigger then the arm itself, limmited range on all fire-arms for 1 tap reliability (I hit the head outside of range a lot with most guns), and generally its either run a shotgun or long rifle still. Medium ammo got dirt nerfed accross 1.0 - 2.3 and they feel its fine to have rifles with the same effect as a shotgun, just a bit better headshot range reliability against slugs (keep in mind that shotguns have almost the same ammo economy as medium ammo guns, and with slugs). As a medium ammo and compact ammo runner, the updates have been "Gimmic hell" I got a fast loading revolver that can take all 6 shots to kill someone unless your within shotgun range due to the 20 meter fall off and piss velocity, the centenial has good velocity but does no dmg and the sight is off set and depending on the game can shoot high or low (depends on hunts fucking mood considering I headshot a guy in a tower when I was aiming at a guy at the first fucknig floor and I didnt get shot for there to be a 11 foot distance between guy in sights and the guy in tower eating a fat one), vetterli has been a great rifle but I've lost fights because the maximum penitration being 20 meters away (if its allowed, such as thin wood), and the fact that the compact guns hold damage better over range then it. I've had to 3 hit a person on average at 73 ish meters, when a conversion pistol or even the le matt will 2 tap them still (barring you dont hit the arm hitbox).

  • @randylee7888
    @randylee7888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Lebel. Everytime I use it, I end up out of ammo around the 2nd fight, unable to significantly resupply if no had long ammo, and either switching guns or extracting.

  • @buddylake1824
    @buddylake1824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hits hard and fires as long as you need it to.

  • @TapdotWater
    @TapdotWater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Pep Guardiola clip

  • @ShinFahima
    @ShinFahima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those innocent barrels!

  • @Keatosis_Quohotos
    @Keatosis_Quohotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wellness check: I'm suffering

  • @zomzee
    @zomzee ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you ever use the lebel over the mosin?

  • @Agent-cipher-6120
    @Agent-cipher-6120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't hate lebel for being powerful, I hate it because I'm a proud Mosin Man

  • @Jack70M
    @Jack70M 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this and then got a French ad immediately afterwards… so much french

  • @GHOST07071
    @GHOST07071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey I appreciate how you started subtitling your videos, but can you make them appear longer on the screen?

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I will, thnx

  • @6ch6ris6
    @6ch6ris6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wish it had a bayonett variant. then i might consider it over the mosin

    • @HomeReel
      @HomeReel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      winfield has a bayonet (musket) and a talon. Not too late to add it

  • @samduffy7628
    @samduffy7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to see a Romero cleaver run. Keep up the amazing run

  • @MasterHernan
    @MasterHernan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spitzer... get complained about in the official Discord. LOL, amazing how extra muzzle velocity triggers people.

  • @Katzenhaini
    @Katzenhaini 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lebel arpiture.... best weapon. gets even better with the skin wolfsbane. why you might ask after his analysis well think about the winfield arpiture but lots more damage. the only thing which causes harm in the gun is the reloaf speed from one bullet to the other, how to combat that is by firstly hitting your first shot and then finish of with a pistol. also why wolfsbane? cause it takes away the top of the needle this block this monster. best weapon for long range and good weapon mid range short as said pistol or melee

  • @Shenzi504
    @Shenzi504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO ITS NOT OK, IM VERY ANGY RIGHT NOW GRRRR. LONG AMMO IS OP

  • @llllb2
    @llllb2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always great content homie

  • @aleksaborovac5024
    @aleksaborovac5024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn it I still laughed at s'bonner or whatever it was