@Scaley_Reptile yea amazing not just gutting it out but owning everyone i watched it at the time and its still mindblowing all these years later hes just different tht mind got the max out of tht body.
Lebron can only wish he had this skill level. We see here even without Jordan's athleticism, his skills still made him great. With LeTurnover we see a lot of his game was just his ridiculous athleticism
@@jammiebooker6489he changed his game on the 2nd 3 peat right after losing to the Magic. He probably realized he lost half a step already! Either way, Imho the 2nd 3 peat is the most complete MJ (as a basketball player) ever! Athleticism, footwork and everything in between!
Man...floor Jordan was no joke!!! I got piles of old VHS tapes of Jordan Wizards games in my closet to prove it! It was very cool to see older MJ go up against the all-stars of the early 2000's. Can you imagine what a prime 25 year old MJ would of done to these cats though? My Lord!!! 😆
Slot these guys know Mike the 1 it’s okay tho bron is their favorite player like Mike is others people fav but when it comes to goat it’s no 1a-1b it’s on a 1 spot and it’s Mike
@ we’re definitely reading from the same book. Blows my mind that they even thinks there’s a debate. How can u claim ur the goat when I never even passed Kobe. MJ and Kobe are in there own category and then u have the rest of the guys. Lebron maybe top 5 but in my opinion way to many holes in his game.He’s a great player but u can’t brag about how great of a facilitator he is on the court and then put it all on JJ. If everyone is lost except him why isn’t he facilitating then?JJ is only doing what he’s told do. He doesn’t run the team. Letited is exhausted and needs to take few weeks of like bronny. Or activate is regular season mode. 😂
@ you really can’t talk basketball now with lebron fans they have the “atleast lebron got his” mentality and when they say that I just sit back and laugh 🤣
@gregorychampion4843 yeah it is nice to see when the players also acknowledge that THAT Jordan was actually more annoying. Because they KNEW he wasn't athletic so HOW was he still putting 40 on em lol. They actually have made references MULTIPLE times on MULTIPLE shows that Wizard's Jordan was "Footwork Jordan". I agree and think his Wizard's years was his best footwork as well. 2nd 3-Peat was GREAT footwork, but Wizard's Jordan was probably the best footwork of ALL PLAYERS EVER. He had Dream's moves but was quicker and smoother. It was also the main thing Kobe would mention about learning from MJ.
In those Wizards years, you can see why MJ was so respected and still feared by everyone in the league. He had the most amazing skillset and was a master in the fundamentals of basketball. Watching him draw up to 3 or 4 defenders is a mark of how good he was. Watching him make unbelievable plays whilst still adhering to the actual rules of basketball is freaking amazing. MJ made the entire world become NBA fans because he made the impossible look easy. Even at 40. I just wish that NBA officiating was the same as it was back then so we could get our beloved game back to how it should be. We might even get the privilege of seeing the next MJ appear before our eyes and take the game to another level.
I think the opening was showing all the players Jordan played against while with the wizards? I think. I could be wrong. Also footwork and lebron have never been in the same sentence.
I'm so glad here in Bmore we had regional coverage of Wiz MJ. I barely missed a game. He was amazing in so many different ways, mid range was elite still, maybe wasn't as Great as he was OBVIOUSLY before but ppl really ignore being retired for 3 yrs and in front office at time of return plus the injuries . Lol it amazes me how much ppl missed during the Wizard years. He had highlights after highlights, was diving on the floor bussing up his chin, all over the place still , he was showing the young Boyyys on team how to play with heart and effort especially when u lose some of your athletic abilities. He was as clutch as aggressive as hard nosed on defense as ever. He was battling the likes of some great small forwards and shooting guards during that time like KOBE, Pierce, Mercer, Allen, Artest, just to name a few. If MJ just like So many LeBron fans scream for help. If he actually had some help with Wizards and they were able to pull off trade for Elton Brand for rook Kwame. They would have made playoffs easily. If he had a playi- in tournament, they would have played both years without any changes. But we don't make excuses we just appreciate THE GOAT
I'm young and I'm a Kobe guy but Michael Jordan is the favorite player of everyone's favorite player, its true. MJ playing defense even at a ripe old age is his default setting. His fadeaways, footwork, leadership is still the yardstick of how other players are measured. MJ is the GOAT... the real debate is who is numero dos and my guy has a case.
When you brought up the second 3 peat about mj and using his footwork more was on point. 100% facts! Mj knew he slowed a bit when it came to driving so he needed that fade away and use of footwork even more than before. Great vids as always. Keep it coming
Jordan walked into that Superman II chamber and became Human with the Wizards to play team ball. So now he was ONLY “Excellent” and “Consistently Exceeded Expectations” with the Wizards. 😅
At the end of the day what I hope this young man takes away from watching Wizard's Jordan is that Jordan whatever the age never ran away from competition, he didn't come down with phantom injuries because he was facing a young T-mac, Kobe, Vince Carter or Paul Pierce did he get the best of them all the time? No but at 39-40 years of age he earned their respect and gave them the business.
The crazy thing about the Lebron talk is that Lebron accolades align with Magic & Kareem. Magic been to 9 titles & won 5 in 13yrs, Kareem been to 10 & won 6 in 20yrs.
Jordan, at 40, PLAYED ALL 82 GAMES, AND STILL DOMINATED. He wasn't a bust, I remember being in Highschool basketball practice and having my coaches coming in and saying Jordan has 42, (during his wizard years)-- and just laughing my ass off. He ended up with 50+ that night at 40. Any comparison to this man is UNJUSTIFIED.
One massive difference I see between Jordan and James: Jordan came to play. He out there having fun. Like he just drove out to Venice Beach on a whim, chomping a cigar, and said, "Who wants a shot at my crown?" James looks like the old timer in the office who got extra salty watching everyone who started with him and after him get promoted past above him while swearing to the bathroom mirror that he did everything perfect.
He averaged 20-22ppg while the Wizards as a team were averaging only 93ppg. Dead ball era. But he was still scoring about 25% of his team's points. Adjusted for today's game his ppg would be about 28.
Yeah this is a great example of how different the defense was before the players evolved of having all of the players having a 3 point shot. It's why use older fans would say Jordan and other would have a 10 to 15 point higher average in today's game. The double teams were so much more quick to get in place. He diced them up like nothing.
I can't remember what player said this but he said something like: My favorite player and where I learned all of my fundamentals is Old Mike in the Wizards, he was flawless, it was impossible to be like young Mike, that's just not human, but Old Mike is what every player needs to learn. Ofc I'm paraphrasing but something of the sorts, I was around 17 when I watched old Mike and man he was a delight to see. Compared to LeFraud 39 years old -111 plus/minus for the season just standing there 0-19 3points in a row 5 turnovers a game... And he's supposed to be the Longevity king? I would take MJ at 60 right now over LeTrafficCone
@@TheRealMindCrime YES! thanks but I recalled that I mixed 2 clips it was DeRozan but also Rasheed Wallace, saying MJ was actually better with the wizards
After Jordan worked himself back into shape and rhythm, with a healthy Rip Hamilton, the Wizards were definitely a playoff team. Only thing that stopped an undeniably successful comeback was injury.
The GOAT seasons are the best because it goes game by game and it really shows just how many highlight caliber plays he made a night. They also show more defense plays
Wizards MJ was still pretty good! He even played through injuries and was still effective, imagine if that Wizards team had an Anthony Davis type player instead of a bunch of role players to pair up with MJ, he was the leader on the team and didn't have anybody to pick up the slack, if there was another player to team up with MJ especially if the NBA was like it is today with wide open spacing, basically no defense, and the dumb play in tournament, the Wizards would have been in the playoffs, maybe not won championships but they would have made the playoffs.
I love this kid!! Uve gotta earn his respect but he gives it to the right 1 & ONLY! NOBODY should ever wear THAT # & Im 66 so i saw it but I forgot! Thank U for the memories!❤❤
What a great reaction again and what an excellent observation, you're absolutely right, at that stage in his career, MJ's footwork and fundamentals were more prominent than ever, as he could no longer rely solely on his physical abilities his other abilities shined a lot more! This version of MJ is a key reason why LeBron doesn't come close to MJ or even Kobe for that matter as even in his final seasons, Kobe played through injuries and performed exceptionally well on both ends of the floor. Meanwhile, LeBron appears to be conserving energy for years now, barely moving around the court and giving minimal effort. When you consider how MJ and Kobe maintained greatness in their last seasons excelling on offense and defense it becomes clear that they were on another level at their peaks and even if LeBron plays until he's 50, his longevity won't match or eclips their overall impact as the media wants us to believe, end of story!
The only difference between Washington wizards Jordan, and Chicago Bulls Jordan was that in the Washington wizards he didn’t have the hang time to stay in the air a little longer and do some of the crazy things he did back in Chicago, but he still had the moves he still had the shootingthe fate away. Everything was still there and like I said the only thing that was missing was the hang time and once he got the rhythm, we were slowly seen the great Michael Jordan right up to. He got that knee injury and that kind of slowed him down a little bit.
If he would not have gotten hurt, he probably would have won the scoring title and went to the playoffs. Would have been difficult not to have given him the Kareem tying MVP if that scenario had happened.
@@TheRealMindCrimeHe was on pace to average 32+ppg before that major injury that year!!! 😂 Crazy to think about that be really not! The GOAT! He was on pace to average 32ppg 7 7 similar to that 89 season! Bananas!
@@d25615 Exactly! I’ve never believed it was ever a debate. Jordan is in his own dimension. And like I’ve always said, Lebron is truly not even in the top 25+, let alone top 10, let alone top 5, definitely not top 2, and utter madness to think he’s better then Mike.
I'm glad we got these Wizards years it's a funny little epilogue. I mean, the man had accomplished it all, already. He was THE ESPN athlete of the 20th Century they did a whole countdown and everything. At the end of the Millennium we started doing all these lists and not just basketball, but all sports. It's MJ. He's the one. We called it The Last Shot. This Wizards stuff is just for funsies. I feel for LeBron because you can't match that. It's okay to be number 2. I am happy that Michael was able to come back squeeze every last bit of juice out of his gift. It's still beautiful.
Mind Crime, i remember specifically watching Jordan on his return to the Wizards. I saw him in pick up games , he was lean and mean. He WAS MOVING like he did back right when he retired in his last championship or at least 90% of it. Leave it to Artest (we know how he is) to break his rip RIGHT BEFORE the season was suppose to start. I remember them talking about that Jordan has a choice. Get ready in 2 months and try and recover or call it off and focus on next year. They weren't sure if he didn't do it now if he would do it the following year and we know , broken ribs take a good amount of time to heal. SO he wasn't working out as much and honestly , from what i remember , came back heavier than he was right before Artest broke his ribs in that pick up game. I can't imagine if he didn't get his ribs broken , he would have been in prime shape, knees were fine, there would be no rib problem and he wouldn't have put on the extra weight. Friggin Artest. BUT, Jordans wizards years are very underrated. There is a video actually with that exact title breaking down how good he was and how good those two seasons were. ( he averaged actually 23.8ppg lol )
That was a gift for us at the time to see him coming back a bit more, challenging rising stars, old rivals, making the all star game. It also makes me want to watch his game vs Pippen as a Trailblazer. Shure it would be fun to watch the commented video of UNC MJ too !
Groovy gettin' a master class education on MJ. Good for him! MJ walking into the arena stylin' and profilin'. 😁 Aw, $hit, MJ can't go left! What's he doing! Oh, he's uh, going left isn't he? Whoever came up with 'that can't go left' narrative needs to never EVER talk basketball again. Hey, I don't think that's Kobe. I think that's a lazy assed Shaq pass, that ain't on Kobe. LOL, Groovy either got the stank face or a huge smile going the whole video. Love it! 😆 Show me somethin'? He did, Groovy. He showed you defense leading to a transition dunk. Magic Johnson: "There is no next Michael Jordan". Almost 23 years later, and no one has proved him wrong.
Fans and the media may have been skeptical about Wizards Jordan but in hindsight, I’m willing to bet that every team in the league during this time period were treating it as if it was still Bulls Jordan. Anybody that knew MJ - of which there had to be plenty with voices in the league - probably believed that if MJ is lacing up, that means he believes he’s still got it. He’s got literally no other reason to be playing. Guys like MJ are their own worst critics so if he believes he still got it, he probably still got it.
Regarding your point with MJ playing all 82 in his last year... he and everyone else KNEW the gravity of it even at the time with it being the last time we would all get to watch him. Those not experiencing it live will not understand the impact all retiring/unretiring had on fan-psyche during this time. It felt like he absolutely could come back at some point again even up to like you said he was taking it to the bobcats at 50. I know why he didn't do it, but it would have been super awesome for him to return at 45 or 50 and just play the old man game. He would have absolutely still been effective offensively. MJ gave it back to the fans that last year, that was for no one else, which is genuinely pretty damn cool.
This is a good lebron fan. Not blinded by emotions. Most lebron fans go in with this like i have to hate mj because lbj better type attitudes. Hes open minded
If there is a difference between a Lebron fanboy and a Lebron fan, Groovy is that. He grew up on Lebron so of course he's his favorite, but he respects the talent of MJ and the rest of the old generation.
He had the Wizards as the 5th seed in the east before he got hurt. They were a really solid defensive team. I believe if he was fully healthy that season the Wizards would've been a top 4 seed in the east and once the playoffs started Id never bet against Mike.
Context matters. In 2004 the pace of play was really slow and defenses very strong (aka Dead Ball era). A lot less possessions per games. And MJ was scoring 1/4 of the points of his team. In today’s league it’s translate to roughly 28 points a game. He was actually really good as a Wizard.
If jordan won a title with the wizards. We’d all shutter at anyone even suggesting mj isnt the goat. Its insane how mj was getting back to his old form.
Come on Mindcrime, you know why the Lestans say Jordan can't go left because they heard that 5 second clip that was taken out of context by Kenny Smith then ran with it. These Stans have the attention span of infants. One thing I noticed was he was not as sudden obviously, like he was smarter at angles and making up for his lack of quickness but on the fastbreaks he was still fast but young MJ was like sudden...Also he blocked my guy Pierce DANG lol. Hey as someone who saw the Wizards years live, was MJ cheered when he went back to Chicago or was he being booed cuz he was a Wizard?
i started cussing when he didn't know latrell sprewell 😭, I wasn't mad at him not knowing Shareef Abdul-Rahom though LOL..He gets mad props for being able to identify laphonso ellis falling to the ground in a heat jersey...
hi , hope all you guys are doing well and.... merry xmas hehe oh man..... oh... man..... seeeing MJ at 40 doing this.... this is MUSIC TO MY EARS. What to say more?! The video speaks by itself. Please compare this to Lebron, now... This young man did the job and I'm glad he could see who REALLY lights the GOAT lamp ! ;P peace
thks bro! hey, can I give you a sugestion for a next possible video-reaction? just for the youngers in this channel to see and hear from the great players of the past (and current) taking about MJ ? th-cam.com/video/_S8qI1yYjNI/w-d-xo.html peace and thks.
And it’s crazy how Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history or his jersey number got retired on the in the Raptors by another team and that no player can ever wear number 23 for the Miami Heat that just shows you how much respect all the teams had for this man and how they knew like we all know that Michael Jordan was not only something special, but they will never be nobody like him again
Anyone starting the MJ rabbit hole should watch his Wizards highlights first. See how unstoppable he was with perfect fundamentals... (Then remind em, at 6'6 225lbs, his vert was higher than Ja and Westbrook, and had De'Aaron Fox speed.)
They did the intro like that to show the 40-year-old MJ's competition. They showed countless all-stars and some hall of famers. Unlike Laqueen's East run with little to no competition. That let him go to 8 finals in a row to lose.
Im happy groovey didnt fall into dom 2k we done with the 90 now i hope he go more indept research way back to the so call plumbers fireman and this stephen a blasphemous was the only skill playa of his era😢❤
Wizards MJ just bullied defenders in the low post. He was bigger and had more weight to use against young defenders who had athleticism on him. I remember they would stick players from PG to PF positions to guard him in the low post. He absolutely abused a bigger and more athletic Kenyon Martin in the post. Kobe and Wade watched a lot of later Bulls and Old Wizards MJ highlights because they used a lot of his offensive repertoire later in their careers. Especially that low post, fade away, then pump fake, then step thru as the defender is in the air for the layup or bank shot move. Jordan's offensive creativity was off the charts. He is by far the greatest post up guard of all-time. Jordan's shoulders were really strong, he would just bury them into skinny athletic dudes like Kobe, Augmon, Marion, Bowen, McGrady, Jefferson, etc.
Although MJ had done it more than a few times over his career but, I still believe one of his all-time best blocks ever was, 40yo Wizards MJ 2 handed block off the backboard against Mercer from the Bulls 💪☝️✊️🙌👏
Notice how MJ doesn't stop behind the 3 point line to chuck a 3 after getting a steal or a break away. To the new generation of NBA fans this video looks foreign to them. lol
Jordan was this Future era that we're in now, when it comes to finesse, sauce, hops, speed, strength, no regard for the opposing player & team😂. The finesse went from Pistol Pete, to Doc. J, to Magic, then MJ was Thee future. Anyone else who came behind him only doing what was done in the 80s & 90s.
20 to 35-year-old Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James at any age, and 40-year-old Jordan is better than LeBron at any age. He was just a total package, the only goat, and he was the measuring stick that nobody else had even come close to.
Agreed I’m taking Wizards MJ that first year over any version of Lebron! That MJ is still better, more skilled, more effective, and more impactful than any version of Lebron!
Also if I remember correctly Jordan came back early from that meniscus surgery, because the wizard started losing without him. Also whenever Jordan and Rip Hamilton was on the floor. The wizards were 15-1
MJ definitely used his exquisite fundamentals to make up for his loss of athleticism. In my opinion wizards MJ aka footwork Jordan was a certified killer.
Can ANYBODY honestly say LeBron gets guarded like Jordan does here. EDIT: Made my comment just minutes before you basically made a similar comment,lol...Great minds think alike lol
The pump fake worked so well because he was such a good shooter. Michael Jordan's shooting percentage outside of 3 feet throughout his career was approximately 50.5%. LeBron James shoots 37% outside of 3 feet from the basket. Michael Jordan's career 3-point percentage was 32.7% in the regular season, 33.2% in the playoffs, and 36.8% in the NBA finals. LeBron James' career 3-point percentage is 34.8%. So in an era where the 3 point shot is prioritized and attempted more regularly (meaning it is practiced more than ever) than in Jordan’s era, LeBron is barely a better 3-point shooter than MJ.
Also if I remember correctly Jordan came back early from that meniscus surgery, because the wizard started losing without him. Also whenever Jordan and Rip Hamilton was on the floor. The wizards were 15-1 Also Jordan was the most complete player to ever play the game!!!!
Just so people know Michael Jordan averaged 22.4 points per game when he was 40 years old and older it was about half a season but technically his stats were going up!!! People seem to forget that when he injured his knee he was on one leg for about a year and a half. But strictly 40 years old Jordan averaged 22.4 ppg
Back here in the Philippines.. we do have Videoke.. you know people here loves to sing.. in which there are option that features different MJ's highlights as background to the song.. We enjoy singing and watching at the same time.. Although many LBJ fans here, mocking about MJ only as King of Videoke.. well.. we simply answered.. imagine the background would be the Flopping highlights of LBJ.. We may not finished the song.. and started laughing.. LOL
Isaiah Thomas once commented that Jordan couldn't go left so they tried to force him that way. Of course, he then stated he would still score 38 before he got hot but people didn't put that together correctly.
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40 year old Jordan .... beautiful basketball....
39 year old Lebron James ... bulldozer basketball....
Who's more blessed ?
@@violoncelo1000 MJ is alone at the top bro
@agentsmith2378 Lebron doesnt even deserve to be on my top 10
@violoncelo1000 he dnt make mine either most OGs say the same bro
Running constantly too, won't be able to make a 20 minute video of him standing around in a game, even at 40.
@Scaley_Reptile yea amazing not just gutting it out but owning everyone i watched it at the time and its still mindblowing all these years later hes just different tht mind got the max out of tht body.
People need to appreciate how smooth MJ's fadeaway and jumpshot were, really was a thing of poetry.
it's a joy to watch❤
heck he still can do that fade lol. It's still so smooth
The 51 point game against the Hornets his fundamentals was on point that game.
There's no doubt you put MJ on the court today he would still be busting some heads with that fadeaway.
Yeah and when LeBron does it he looks like a robot
Lebron can only wish he had this skill level. We see here even without Jordan's athleticism, his skills still made him great. With LeTurnover we see a lot of his game was just his ridiculous athleticism
Jordan put the work in to improve his overall game so he wouldn't have to rely solely on his athleticism.
agreed
@@jammiebooker6489he changed his game on the 2nd 3 peat right after losing to the Magic. He probably realized he lost half a step already! Either way, Imho the 2nd 3 peat is the most complete MJ (as a basketball player) ever! Athleticism, footwork and everything in between!
lebron has bulldozer body his advantage only..no remarkable skills at all
Man...floor Jordan was no joke!!! I got piles of old VHS tapes of Jordan Wizards games in my closet to prove it!
It was very cool to see older MJ go up against the all-stars of the early 2000's. Can you imagine what a prime 25 year old MJ would of done to these cats though? My Lord!!! 😆
oh for sure lol. Floor MJ was more relatable to us cuz none of us can jump like young MJ haha.
@@TheRealMindCrime hahaha yep! I believed I could fly! 😆
Grand rising bro, grovey is getting hooked on MJ, he knows what time it is
@@sylvesterallen3932 cant deny talent when its evident thts why even Jordans haters respect his game
Hooked on the views
Nice! I wanna so the NC reaction of his next
Old Heads out here bro 🤘👊
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@@agentsmith2378 Old Head Strong!!! 💪 👊 🤙
Old heads salute🫡
Been watching groovy he knows his stuff! Not scared to admit MJ is that guy. Love his channel
yeah I'm enjoying his reactions a lot too. Nice young man
@ ya he seems like a solid dude!
Slot these guys know Mike the 1 it’s okay tho bron is their favorite player like Mike is others people fav but when it comes to goat it’s no 1a-1b it’s on a 1 spot and it’s Mike
@ we’re definitely reading from the same book. Blows my mind that they even thinks there’s a debate. How can u claim ur the goat when I never even passed Kobe. MJ and Kobe are in there own category and then u have the rest of the guys. Lebron maybe top 5 but in my opinion way to many holes in his game.He’s a great player but u can’t brag about how great of a facilitator he is on the court and then put it all on JJ. If everyone is lost except him why isn’t he facilitating then?JJ is only doing what he’s told do. He doesn’t run the team. Letited is exhausted and needs to take few weeks of like bronny. Or activate is regular season mode. 😂
@ you really can’t talk basketball now with lebron fans they have the “atleast lebron got his” mentality and when they say that I just sit back and laugh 🤣
Demar Derozan says all he studies is Jordan’s Wizards years cuz Jordan relied on the basics since his athleticism wasn’t there.
yeah i reacted to that. Been paying more attention to Demar since then
@gregorychampion4843 yeah it is nice to see when the players also acknowledge that THAT Jordan was actually more annoying. Because they KNEW he wasn't athletic so HOW was he still putting 40 on em lol. They actually have made references MULTIPLE times on MULTIPLE shows that Wizard's Jordan was "Footwork Jordan".
I agree and think his Wizard's years was his best footwork as well. 2nd 3-Peat was GREAT footwork, but Wizard's Jordan was probably the best footwork of ALL PLAYERS EVER. He had Dream's moves but was quicker and smoother. It was also the main thing Kobe would mention about learning from MJ.
MJ's hands... Tongue, Airtime, competitive-ness, heck even his style beats the "Eye test"
saying his tongue beats the eye test? woah there buddy 🤣
@@leohoutarou9980 when you see that tongue you know he's gonnah kill you ... make of that what you will. The man was scary.
Lmao @@leohoutarou9980
In those Wizards years, you can see why MJ was so respected and still feared by everyone in the league.
He had the most amazing skillset and was a master in the fundamentals of basketball.
Watching him draw up to 3 or 4 defenders is a mark of how good he was.
Watching him make unbelievable plays whilst still adhering to the actual rules of basketball is freaking amazing.
MJ made the entire world become NBA fans because he made the impossible look easy. Even at 40.
I just wish that NBA officiating was the same as it was back then so we could get our beloved game back to how it should be.
We might even get the privilege of seeing the next MJ appear before our eyes and take the game to another level.
I think the opening was showing all the players Jordan played against while with the wizards? I think. I could be wrong. Also footwork and lebron have never been in the same sentence.
That's how I interpreted the intro as well. Everyone he faced to show he didn't back down against those greats.
I think you're right
I love too
He was not playing for a conctract like Le Balko plays
nope, he worked those 2 years for free. He just wanted to hoop
I'm so glad here in Bmore we had regional coverage of Wiz MJ. I barely missed a game. He was amazing in so many different ways, mid range was elite still, maybe wasn't as Great as he was OBVIOUSLY before but ppl really ignore being retired for 3 yrs and in front office at time of return plus the injuries .
Lol it amazes me how much ppl missed during the Wizard years. He had highlights after highlights, was diving on the floor bussing up his chin, all over the place still , he was showing the young Boyyys on team how to play with heart and effort especially when u lose some of your athletic abilities.
He was as clutch as aggressive as hard nosed on defense as ever.
He was battling the likes of some great small forwards and shooting guards during that time like KOBE, Pierce, Mercer, Allen, Artest, just to name a few.
If MJ just like So many LeBron fans scream for help. If he actually had some help with Wizards and they were able to pull off trade for Elton Brand for rook Kwame. They would have made playoffs easily. If he had a playi- in tournament, they would have played both years without any changes.
But we don't make excuses we just appreciate THE GOAT
Oh I have been WAITING for you to watch this Groovy video lol. Definitely a good time 😂
Oh this one is fun!
His ball handling definitely improved he added a few things to his bag
I'm young and I'm a Kobe guy but Michael Jordan is the favorite player of everyone's favorite player, its true.
MJ playing defense even at a ripe old age is his default setting. His fadeaways, footwork, leadership is still the yardstick of how other players are measured. MJ is the GOAT... the real debate is who is numero dos and my guy has a case.
When you brought up the second 3 peat about mj and using his footwork more was on point. 100% facts! Mj knew he slowed a bit when it came to driving so he needed that fade away and use of footwork even more than before. Great vids as always. Keep it coming
thanks Matt!
Ain’t nothing like witnessing true greatness 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jordan walked into that Superman II chamber and became Human with the Wizards to play team ball. So now he was ONLY “Excellent” and “Consistently Exceeded Expectations” with the Wizards. 😅
😆 🤣 😂
I think the reason they were showing all the players at the beginning was because they wanted to show Jordan wasn’t playing "plumbers and carpenters."
Heeey, even NBA players rely on plumbers when there’s a problem with their toilets etc😅
At the end of the day what I hope this young man takes away from watching Wizard's Jordan is that Jordan whatever the age never ran away from competition, he didn't come down with phantom injuries because he was facing a young T-mac, Kobe, Vince Carter or Paul Pierce did he get the best of them all the time? No but at 39-40 years of age he earned their respect and gave them the business.
agreed!
That reaction pause was definitely needed.
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I remember one retired hofer said “we may lose our knees, but never our touch” when it comes to player in father time
I like it
KOBE last game 60 points... MJ last season perfect technique.... Lebron's farewell... brick brick nrrick...
Lebron's farewell: Fans both home and away shouting "AIN'T NO PARTY THAN A DIDDY PARTY!!!"
hahaha
You always forget he could no longer bend his index finger on his shooting hand as well. It is permanently extended straight out to this day since 99
very true!
@ the guys that doing a weekly livestream with AOH were talking about bringing you on the panel last Sunday. You should do it.
The real 23 and 1 and only 🐐
yessirrrr
When he came back a Wizard like Gandalf the Black!
The crazy thing about the Lebron talk is that Lebron accolades align with Magic & Kareem. Magic been to 9 titles & won 5 in 13yrs, Kareem been to 10 & won 6 in 20yrs.
exactly. Lebron shouldn't be compared to MJ.
His Goatness! 🙌🙌🙌
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No. He's not. LEBRON is a 🐐. Jordan is the Greatest basketball player I've ever seen.
@@CharlesAaronTeI can respect that at least you don’t hate.
So glad I found your channel! 👍
Not just reacting but giving context and adding memories and stories. Love it! It's cozy 😁
thank you! I'm really enjoying this community a lot myself
Jordan, at 40, PLAYED ALL 82 GAMES, AND STILL DOMINATED. He wasn't a bust, I remember being in Highschool basketball practice and having my coaches coming in and saying Jordan has 42, (during his wizard years)-- and just laughing my ass off. He ended up with 50+ that night at 40. Any comparison to this man is UNJUSTIFIED.
One massive difference I see between Jordan and James:
Jordan came to play. He out there having fun. Like he just drove out to Venice Beach on a whim, chomping a cigar, and said, "Who wants a shot at my crown?"
James looks like the old timer in the office who got extra salty watching everyone who started with him and after him get promoted past above him while swearing to the bathroom mirror that he did everything perfect.
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He averaged 20-22ppg while the Wizards as a team were averaging only 93ppg. Dead ball era. But he was still scoring about 25% of his team's points. Adjusted for today's game his ppg would be about 28.
Exactly ☝️
Yeah this is a great example of how different the defense was before the players evolved of having all of the players having a 3 point shot. It's why use older fans would say Jordan and other would have a 10 to 15 point higher average in today's game. The double teams were so much more quick to get in place. He diced them up like nothing.
It's great that we can appreciate both MJ and Lebron.
This is why the 'eye test' is important.
I can't remember what player said this but he said something like: My favorite player and where I learned all of my fundamentals is Old Mike in the Wizards, he was flawless, it was impossible to be like young Mike, that's just not human, but Old Mike is what every player needs to learn.
Ofc I'm paraphrasing but something of the sorts, I was around 17 when I watched old Mike and man he was a delight to see.
Compared to LeFraud 39 years old -111 plus/minus for the season just standing there 0-19 3points in a row 5 turnovers a game... And he's supposed to be the Longevity king? I would take MJ at 60 right now over LeTrafficCone
Was it Demar Derozan?
@@TheRealMindCrime YES! thanks but I recalled that I mixed 2 clips it was DeRozan but also Rasheed Wallace, saying MJ was actually better with the wizards
❤I love MJ so~so~ much💫 I like your video, thank you🙏
Thank you!
After Jordan worked himself back into shape and rhythm, with a healthy Rip Hamilton, the Wizards were definitely a playoff team. Only thing that stopped an undeniably successful comeback was injury.
The GOAT seasons are the best because it goes game by game and it really shows just how many highlight caliber plays he made a night. They also show more defense plays
Wizards MJ was still pretty good! He even played through injuries and was still effective, imagine if that Wizards team had an Anthony Davis type player instead of a bunch of role players to pair up with MJ, he was the leader on the team and didn't have anybody to pick up the slack, if there was another player to team up with MJ especially if the NBA was like it is today with wide open spacing, basically no defense, and the dumb play in tournament, the Wizards would have been in the playoffs, maybe not won championships but they would have made the playoffs.
I love this kid!! Uve gotta earn his respect but he gives it to the right 1 & ONLY! NOBODY should ever wear THAT # & Im 66 so i saw it but I forgot! Thank U for the memories!❤❤
thanks for watchin with me!
You watch Jordan at 40 and LeBron now at 39, Jordan still on another level with a horrible knee
imo Wizards MJ > current Lebron (they’re about the same age too)
oh it's no contest. MJ helped his team win games. Lebron is preventing his team from winning
What a great reaction again and what an excellent observation, you're absolutely right, at that stage in his career, MJ's footwork and fundamentals were more prominent than ever, as he could no longer rely solely on his physical abilities his other abilities shined a lot more!
This version of MJ is a key reason why LeBron doesn't come close to MJ or even Kobe for that matter as even in his final seasons, Kobe played through injuries and performed exceptionally well on both ends of the floor.
Meanwhile, LeBron appears to be conserving energy for years now, barely moving around the court and giving minimal effort.
When you consider how MJ and Kobe maintained greatness in their last seasons excelling on offense and defense it becomes clear that they were on another level at their peaks and even if LeBron plays until he's 50, his longevity won't match or eclips their overall impact as the media wants us to believe, end of story!
well said!
Kobe's face @29:10 says it all. "It ain't over big bro!"
The only difference between Washington wizards Jordan, and Chicago Bulls Jordan was that in the Washington wizards he didn’t have the hang time to stay in the air a little longer and do some of the crazy things he did back in Chicago, but he still had the moves he still had the shootingthe fate away. Everything was still there and like I said the only thing that was missing was the hang time and once he got the rhythm, we were slowly seen the great Michael Jordan right up to. He got that knee injury and that kind of slowed him down a little bit.
agreed
If he would not have gotten hurt, he probably would have won the scoring title and went to the playoffs. Would have been difficult not to have given him the Kareem tying MVP if that scenario had happened.
yeah I think so too. He was quickly getting back to his 98 form
@@TheRealMindCrimeHe was on pace to average 32+ppg before that major injury that year!!! 😂 Crazy to think about that be really not! The GOAT!
He was on pace to average 32ppg 7 7 similar to that 89 season! Bananas!
@Josh-sk5xd that's why always been like who's lebron
@TheRealMindCrime it's crazy. That's why I've always been like "who's lebron?
@@d25615 Exactly! I’ve never believed it was ever a debate. Jordan is in his own dimension. And like I’ve always said, Lebron is truly not even in the top 25+, let alone top 10, let alone top 5, definitely not top 2, and utter madness to think he’s better then Mike.
Jordan's strength has always been his footwork and postup moves....no wasted movements or dribbling
I'm glad we got these Wizards years it's a funny little epilogue. I mean, the man had accomplished it all, already. He was THE ESPN athlete of the 20th Century they did a whole countdown and everything. At the end of the Millennium we started doing all these lists and not just basketball, but all sports. It's MJ. He's the one. We called it The Last Shot. This Wizards stuff is just for funsies.
I feel for LeBron because you can't match that. It's okay to be number 2. I am happy that Michael was able to come back squeeze every last bit of juice out of his gift. It's still beautiful.
Mind Crime, i remember specifically watching Jordan on his return to the Wizards. I saw him in pick up games , he was lean and mean. He WAS MOVING like he did back right when he retired in his last championship or at least 90% of it. Leave it to Artest (we know how he is) to break his rip RIGHT BEFORE the season was suppose to start. I remember them talking about that Jordan has a choice. Get ready in 2 months and try and recover or call it off and focus on next year. They weren't sure if he didn't do it now if he would do it the following year and we know , broken ribs take a good amount of time to heal. SO he wasn't working out as much and honestly , from what i remember , came back heavier than he was right before Artest broke his ribs in that pick up game. I can't imagine if he didn't get his ribs broken , he would have been in prime shape, knees were fine, there would be no rib problem and he wouldn't have put on the extra weight. Friggin Artest. BUT, Jordans wizards years are very underrated. There is a video actually with that exact title breaking down how good he was and how good those two seasons were. ( he averaged actually 23.8ppg lol )
That was a gift for us at the time to see him coming back a bit more, challenging rising stars, old rivals, making the all star game. It also makes me want to watch his game vs Pippen as a Trailblazer.
Shure it would be fun to watch the commented video of UNC MJ too !
I would take this version of MJ over the current version of LeBron anytime.
No contest. MJ helped his team win. Lebron is the reason they're losing
Groovy gettin' a master class education on MJ. Good for him!
MJ walking into the arena stylin' and profilin'. 😁 Aw, $hit, MJ can't go left! What's he doing! Oh, he's uh, going left isn't he? Whoever came up with 'that can't go left' narrative needs to never EVER talk basketball again.
Hey, I don't think that's Kobe. I think that's a lazy assed Shaq pass, that ain't on Kobe.
LOL, Groovy either got the stank face or a huge smile going the whole video. Love it! 😆
Show me somethin'? He did, Groovy. He showed you defense leading to a transition dunk.
Magic Johnson: "There is no next Michael Jordan". Almost 23 years later, and no one has proved him wrong.
100% he was right about Bird too. There will never be another Larry Bird
Fans and the media may have been skeptical about Wizards Jordan but in hindsight, I’m willing to bet that every team in the league during this time period were treating it as if it was still Bulls Jordan. Anybody that knew MJ - of which there had to be plenty with voices in the league - probably believed that if MJ is lacing up, that means he believes he’s still got it. He’s got literally no other reason to be playing. Guys like MJ are their own worst critics so if he believes he still got it, he probably still got it.
Now I thought I have seen all MJs wizards. Highlights. What a treat.
Yo I was on the floor with his facial expressions 2 dawg lol. Another good video here man
Lol thanks man
I do agree MJ had better footwork and fundamentals. He had to. Age was catching up. But that's why MJ is #1. He could still evolve and adjust.
100% I agree. That's what makes someone great. Being able to adapt to any style and still be successfull
Regarding your point with MJ playing all 82 in his last year... he and everyone else KNEW the gravity of it even at the time with it being the last time we would all get to watch him. Those not experiencing it live will not understand the impact all retiring/unretiring had on fan-psyche during this time. It felt like he absolutely could come back at some point again even up to like you said he was taking it to the bobcats at 50. I know why he didn't do it, but it would have been super awesome for him to return at 45 or 50 and just play the old man game. He would have absolutely still been effective offensively. MJ gave it back to the fans that last year, that was for no one else, which is genuinely pretty damn cool.
This is a good lebron fan. Not blinded by emotions. Most lebron fans go in with this like i have to hate mj because lbj better type attitudes. Hes open minded
for sure. All I ever ask is for open mindedness
If there is a difference between a Lebron fanboy and a Lebron fan, Groovy is that. He grew up on Lebron so of course he's his favorite, but he respects the talent of MJ and the rest of the old generation.
totally agree. He's not in the cult, he just likes Lebron a lot which is totally different lol
Saying MJ can’t go left makes him even more of a GOAT!
Love watching Groovy react to all the Jordan clips. And love sitting with you for it 👊🏼
32:51 in the Ultimate Mixtape "Lots of Guys have Strength, Lots of Guys Have Skill but theres only One Man doing it at this Level of Artistry"
" I don't know who that is " 😂😂
He had the Wizards as the 5th seed in the east before he got hurt. They were a really solid defensive team. I believe if he was fully healthy that season the Wizards would've been a top 4 seed in the east and once the playoffs started Id never bet against Mike.
Totally agreed!
Yeah Bro I'm 51... I always give Young'n his props for keep'n it real 😂😂😂 He recognizes fo'sho😂
Context matters. In 2004 the pace of play was really slow and defenses very strong (aka Dead Ball era). A lot less possessions per games. And MJ was scoring 1/4 of the points of his team. In today’s league it’s translate to roughly 28 points a game. He was actually really good as a Wizard.
22:32 plus in that era teams only averaged 95 points per game vs 113 today.
exactly
If jordan won a title with the wizards. We’d all shutter at anyone even suggesting mj isnt the goat. Its insane how mj was getting back to his old form.
Come on Mindcrime, you know why the Lestans say Jordan can't go left because they heard that 5 second clip that was taken out of context by Kenny Smith then ran with it. These Stans have the attention span of infants. One thing I noticed was he was not as sudden obviously, like he was smarter at angles and making up for his lack of quickness but on the fastbreaks he was still fast but young MJ was like sudden...Also he blocked my guy Pierce DANG lol. Hey as someone who saw the Wizards years live, was MJ cheered when he went back to Chicago or was he being booed cuz he was a Wizard?
Oh MJ got massive cheers in Chicago
Great video. Yes, please do the Groovy MJ North Carolina video.
Will do lol
That shit on Paul Pierce was crazy.
lol
Mj wizards reminds me of songoku dragon ball gt 😅
lol
"He played all 82 games." I think that's why LeBron is saying he's going to play all 82 games this year. He KNOWS he's still chasing MJ.
That's what actually having a bag gets you, still dominating 1v1s at an old age
I think that intro shows what stars MJ played against that came in post-98
i started cussing when he didn't know latrell sprewell 😭, I wasn't mad at him not knowing Shareef Abdul-Rahom though LOL..He gets mad props for being able to identify laphonso ellis falling to the ground in a heat jersey...
I would enjoy you reacting to his reaction to college Jordan that would be amazing
nice! I think i'm gonna do it
@ that’s when the athleticism comes out it’ll blows his mind
hi , hope all you guys are doing well and.... merry xmas hehe
oh man..... oh... man..... seeeing MJ at 40 doing this.... this is MUSIC TO MY EARS. What to say more?! The video speaks by itself. Please compare this to Lebron, now...
This young man did the job and I'm glad he could see who REALLY lights the GOAT lamp ! ;P
peace
Happy Holidays to ya!
thks bro!
hey, can I give you a sugestion for a next possible video-reaction? just for the youngers in this channel to see and hear from the great players of the past (and current) taking about MJ ?
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peace and thks.
And it’s crazy how Michael Jordan is the only player in NBA history or his jersey number got retired on the in the Raptors by another team and that no player can ever wear number 23 for the Miami Heat that just shows you how much respect all the teams had for this man and how they knew like we all know that Michael Jordan was not only something special, but they will never be nobody like him again
Anyone starting the MJ rabbit hole should watch his Wizards highlights first. See how unstoppable he was with perfect fundamentals...
(Then remind em, at 6'6 225lbs, his vert was higher than Ja and Westbrook, and had De'Aaron Fox speed.)
They did the intro like that to show the 40-year-old MJ's competition. They showed countless all-stars and some hall of famers. Unlike Laqueen's East run with little to no competition. That let him go to 8 finals in a row to lose.
You couldnt build a robot this technical
I watched Groovy’s vid, but I had to give yours love too!
Awwww you da best!
@ I’m stick g for mediocrity 🤪
Im happy groovey didnt fall into dom 2k we done with the 90 now i hope he go more indept research way back to the so call plumbers fireman and this stephen a blasphemous was the only skill playa of his era😢❤
totally agree
Wizards MJ just bullied defenders in the low post. He was bigger and had more weight to use against young defenders who had athleticism on him. I remember they would stick players from PG to PF positions to guard him in the low post. He absolutely abused a bigger and more athletic Kenyon Martin in the post. Kobe and Wade watched a lot of later Bulls and Old Wizards MJ highlights because they used a lot of his offensive repertoire later in their careers. Especially that low post, fade away, then pump fake, then step thru as the defender is in the air for the layup or bank shot move. Jordan's offensive creativity was off the charts. He is by far the greatest post up guard of all-time. Jordan's shoulders were really strong, he would just bury them into skinny athletic dudes like Kobe, Augmon, Marion, Bowen, McGrady, Jefferson, etc.
Although MJ had done it more than a few times over his career but, I still believe one of his all-time best blocks ever was, 40yo Wizards MJ 2 handed block off the backboard against Mercer from the Bulls 💪☝️✊️🙌👏
oh that's probably my favorite block ever lol.
Notice how MJ doesn't stop behind the 3 point line to chuck a 3 after getting a steal or a break away. To the new generation of NBA fans this video looks foreign to them. lol
exactly lol
Jordan was this Future era that we're in now, when it comes to finesse, sauce, hops, speed, strength, no regard for the opposing player & team😂. The finesse went from Pistol Pete, to Doc. J, to Magic, then MJ was Thee future. Anyone else who came behind him only doing what was done in the 80s & 90s.
20 to 35-year-old Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James at any age, and 40-year-old Jordan is better than LeBron at any age. He was just a total package, the only goat, and he was the measuring stick that nobody else had even come close to.
forget Lebron. 20-35 MJ is better than anyone who ever played the game. Lebron not even close to that level
Agreed I’m taking Wizards MJ that first year over any version of Lebron! That MJ is still better, more skilled, more effective, and more impactful than any version of Lebron!
Also if I remember correctly Jordan came back early from that meniscus surgery, because the wizard started losing without him. Also whenever Jordan and Rip Hamilton was on the floor. The wizards were 15-1
MJ definitely used his exquisite fundamentals to make up for his loss of athleticism. In my opinion wizards MJ aka footwork Jordan was a certified killer.
i have that same opinion
Can ANYBODY honestly say LeBron gets guarded like Jordan does here.
EDIT: Made my comment just minutes before you basically made a similar comment,lol...Great minds think alike lol
lol absolutely
The pump fake worked so well because he was such a good shooter. Michael Jordan's shooting percentage outside of 3 feet throughout his career was approximately 50.5%. LeBron James shoots 37% outside of 3 feet from the basket.
Michael Jordan's career 3-point percentage was 32.7% in the regular season, 33.2% in the playoffs, and 36.8% in the NBA finals. LeBron James' career 3-point percentage is 34.8%. So in an era where the 3 point shot is prioritized and attempted more regularly (meaning it is practiced more than ever) than in Jordan’s era, LeBron is barely a better 3-point shooter than MJ.
Also if I remember correctly Jordan came back early from that meniscus surgery, because the wizard started losing without him. Also whenever Jordan and Rip Hamilton was on the floor. The wizards were 15-1
Also Jordan was the most complete player to ever play the game!!!!
Just so people know Michael Jordan averaged 22.4 points per game when he was 40 years old and older it was about half a season but technically his stats were going up!!! People seem to forget that when he injured his knee he was on one leg for about a year and a half. But strictly 40 years old Jordan averaged 22.4 ppg
Back here in the Philippines.. we do have Videoke.. you know people here loves to sing.. in which there are option that features different MJ's highlights as background to the song.. We enjoy singing and watching at the same time.. Although many LBJ fans here, mocking about MJ only as King of Videoke.. well.. we simply answered.. imagine the background would be the Flopping highlights of LBJ.. We may not finished the song.. and started laughing.. LOL
hahahahhahaha!!! Flopping Lebron with circus music playing
Washington MJ was still drawing double and triple teams. meanwhile, LeBrick is dared to shoot lol...
Isaiah Thomas once commented that Jordan couldn't go left so they tried to force him that way. Of course, he then stated he would still score 38 before he got hot but people didn't put that together correctly.