Ça fait du bien d'entendre une version de lo boièr venant d'artistes occitans et pas d'anglos juste là pour surfer sur le mysticisme des cathares et effacer sa signification culturelle : )
Bonjour, Je comprend que c'est frustrant car on peut avoir l'impression qu'ils veulent nous "voler" notre culture, mais finalement les reprises, mêmes anglo-saxonnes, permettent à la chanson de continuer à vivre . Et puis bon, au moins, elle n'a pas eu le traitement façon Bella Ciao par Naestro...
@@M-i-k-a-e-l Hello my Scandinavian brother I certainly wouldn't of met you if it was not for the Cathars its amazing how a Cathar seed of a tree grows its branches out to wonderful places and people 🙏
There were no cathars in France, it was the coumty of Toulouse (modern region of Occitania), with later Gothia or Catalunya in the kingdom of Arragon as we still held our independance and still spoke our language. Occitans have never been able to unite and pan-occitanism was never possible after the fall of the Wisigothic kingdom, because the coumts of Toulouse, Barcelone and the dukes of Aquitania couldn't put aside their differences to resist outside threats. The duchy of Aquitania when united defeated the muslims and the Omeyad Califate and they put an end to muslim expansion for a while, with the battle of Toulouse. But the duchy was weakened and the franks gave us no choice but to become vassals so that they wouldn't attack us and offered help against the muslims to take Gothia (or Septimania) back from the Omeyad (Languedoc and Catalunya).
And France wasn't even created yet, the royal possessions were very small and centered in northern France around Paris, they had some vassals with huge autonomy, we only talk about the kingdom of France after the XIIIth century.
@@gallici-anima-christiana I know Simon de Montfort was acting for Pope Innocent the III to take Occitaine following the Baron's war I know King John had land in southern France being one of the Barons his Castle is at Odiham north Hampshire I know the French forces landed & got as far as North Hampshire England near Odiham Castle quite remarkable.
Very interesting. It did something odd to my centers, especially the higher ones, but music does that sometimes. It isn't my style, but yes, interesting. We Gnostics never truly died. They never truly killed us. Oh, they burnt us but they did not kill us the Bay tree will bloom again, it grows in secret and then, will bloom.
Quel plaisir d'entendre une nouvelle interprétation par des gens du pays, je découvre votre groupe ce soir et c'est la découverte de l'année pour moi. Une fois que j'aurais tout écouté, il va me falloir du merch ahah
. Que Dios plante flores de amor y paz sobre la Tierra regada con nuestra sangre. Que nuestra tragedia sea un legado de esperanza perdurable para toda la Tierra. Que nuestro perdón sirva para redimir a quienes nos condenaron y asesinaron, enseñándoles a amar. La Fundación de las Azucenas Blancas ( ALMAS DE LA LUZ ). La casa que me entregaron mis padres en herencia y que me ha robado Cajamar no vale nada. Pero con las almas buenas esa humilde casa será el *MÁS VALIOSO PATRIMONIO INMATERIAL DE LA HUMANIDAD*. Éste fué, es y será el sentido del tiempo de existencia que el CREADOR me permitió vivir. Todo tuvo un sentido para Dios. Incluso cuando yo no lo entendí. Glory to GOD 🙈🙉🙊 💙 💚 🕊️ 💛 ❤️ .
@@vizcondem0ntuen431 . Yo es que nunca hice referencia a la "alu sión", sino a la "ilu sión* en medio de todo mi" alu vión". Que se me ha venido todo encima. Solo me queda la esperanza de darle sentido a toda ésta tragedia. .
@@vizcondem0ntuen431 . Yo más bien diría que respondo porque no entiendo que les gustaría que dijese. Soy pequeño, pero siempre he soñado en grande. Para mí la vida es tan milagrosa como tenebrosa. Me aterra y me fascina. Lo que yo desearía es que, después de haber vivido el miedo, pudiese lograr vivir la esperanza. Y así lo he expresado. Que suceda, o no, ya no lo sé. Soñar es lo único que ya me queda. Gracias por su amable respuesta. .
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Ça fait du bien d'entendre une version de lo boièr venant d'artistes occitans et pas d'anglos juste là pour surfer sur le mysticisme des cathares et effacer sa signification culturelle : )
Bonjour,
Je comprend que c'est frustrant car on peut avoir l'impression qu'ils veulent nous "voler" notre culture, mais finalement les reprises, mêmes anglo-saxonnes, permettent à la chanson de continuer à vivre .
Et puis bon, au moins, elle n'a pas eu le traitement façon Bella Ciao par Naestro...
@@TheRyfeir je l'avais pas vu sous cet angle. Merci :)
De plus l'esprit cathare n'a pas de frontière 🕊
Molt bona versió. M'agrada molt
Hello from England Excellent song to remember Monsegur & the Catars in France Merci. & the Cathars who made it to England as early as 1147 .
thank you brother
@@M-i-k-a-e-l Hello my Scandinavian brother I certainly wouldn't of met you if it was not for the Cathars its amazing how a Cathar seed of a tree grows its branches out to wonderful places and people 🙏
There were no cathars in France, it was the coumty of Toulouse (modern region of Occitania), with later Gothia or Catalunya in the kingdom of Arragon as we still held our independance and still spoke our language. Occitans have never been able to unite and pan-occitanism was never possible after the fall of the Wisigothic kingdom, because the coumts of Toulouse, Barcelone and the dukes of Aquitania couldn't put aside their differences to resist outside threats. The duchy of Aquitania when united defeated the muslims and the Omeyad Califate and they put an end to muslim expansion for a while, with the battle of Toulouse. But the duchy was weakened and the franks gave us no choice but to become vassals so that they wouldn't attack us and offered help against the muslims to take Gothia (or Septimania) back from the Omeyad (Languedoc and Catalunya).
And France wasn't even created yet, the royal possessions were very small and centered in northern France around Paris, they had some vassals with huge autonomy, we only talk about the kingdom of France after the XIIIth century.
@@gallici-anima-christiana I know Simon de Montfort was acting for Pope Innocent the III to take Occitaine following the Baron's war I know King John had land in southern France being one of the Barons his Castle is at Odiham north Hampshire I know the French forces landed & got as far as North Hampshire England near Odiham Castle quite remarkable.
I know 2 versions...yours is 3 rd... It made me cry instantlly when i heard it 😭😭😭 thank you!!! 💚💚💚
Occitania and Occultism.. love and love 💜
Любов от България 💖 🙏 🥰
Напомня ми на България отпреди векове.
Merci first time I have heard the song in Occitaine Cathar in England .
Very interesting. It did something odd to my centers, especially the higher ones, but music does that sometimes. It isn't my style, but yes, interesting. We Gnostics never truly died. They never truly killed us. Oh, they burnt us but they did not kill us
the Bay tree will bloom again, it grows in secret and then, will bloom.
Quel plaisir d'entendre une nouvelle interprétation par des gens du pays, je découvre votre groupe ce soir et c'est la découverte de l'année pour moi. Une fois que j'aurais tout écouté, il va me falloir du merch ahah
força plan interpretat ! Bravo !!!
Magnifique interprétation.
j'adore ce chant que vous interprétez magnifiquement ! bravo
Fantastic
Boa essa interpretação.
⚜️🌹🙏
Thank you so much 🌞🌳🌳
Envoutant,a quand une video en live?!
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Hollgaer.
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Que Dios plante flores de amor y paz sobre la Tierra regada con nuestra sangre.
Que nuestra tragedia sea un legado de esperanza perdurable para toda la Tierra.
Que nuestro perdón sirva para redimir a quienes nos condenaron y asesinaron, enseñándoles a amar.
La Fundación de las Azucenas Blancas ( ALMAS DE LA LUZ ).
La casa que me entregaron mis padres en herencia y que me ha robado Cajamar no vale nada.
Pero con las almas buenas esa humilde casa será el *MÁS VALIOSO PATRIMONIO INMATERIAL DE LA HUMANIDAD*.
Éste fué, es y será el sentido del tiempo de existencia que el CREADOR me permitió vivir.
Todo tuvo un sentido para Dios.
Incluso cuando yo no lo entendí.
Glory to GOD
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💙
💚 🕊️ 💛
❤️
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¿Cuándo hablé?
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Yo es que nunca hice referencia a la "alu sión", sino a la "ilu sión* en medio de todo mi" alu vión".
Que se me ha venido todo encima. Solo me queda la esperanza de darle sentido a toda ésta tragedia.
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Entiendo, te haces como sino entiendes porque no quieres responder. Adiós.
@@vizcondem0ntuen431
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Yo más bien diría que respondo porque no entiendo que les gustaría que dijese.
Soy pequeño, pero siempre he soñado en grande. Para mí la vida es tan milagrosa como tenebrosa.
Me aterra y me fascina.
Lo que yo desearía es que, después de haber vivido el miedo, pudiese lograr vivir la esperanza.
Y así lo he expresado.
Que suceda, o no, ya no lo sé.
Soñar es lo único que ya me queda.
Gracias por su amable respuesta.
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@@vizcondem0ntuen431
Con Dios.
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