How the Europeans fought the Mongols - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY
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Do a video about osman l and his early battles
@ThyPeasantSlayer lost against who?
@ThyPeasantSlayer osman 1 destroyed all his enemies
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The fact that 65 year-old Carpini went all the way to Karakoum to learn of the Mongols, traveled all the way home, wrote a report on how to successfully defeat the Mongols and the response from the European leaders was “Cool read but nah I’m good” is so real life.
@@Terminator47. My Mamluk brothers had to beat them back time and again. The Indians were the ones to truly beat them in open field battle.
@@Darksky1001able And now you all speak English so how did them wars really turn out for you?
@tanner
The insecurity is REAL 😬
@@simbolicdunksman1746 Yeah sure, im from a tiny little island nation on the edge of Europe that created the modern world but im insecure, sure pal.
@@tanner1111 Bro yes Europeans created the modern world but our ancestors didn't do it alone considering many different races aided in it's construction and fought and died in it's defense. We can both appreciate the amazing achievements of our ancestors while also recognizing all the other races who aided them throughout history in the making of the western world..
Spam watchtowers/keeps, invest in monks, trash units like hussars and halberdiers are a good investment, then challenge them on water maps.
Rip bozo ahh Mongols 💀💀
@Moon Bean too slow, they get outmanouvered by mangudai.
I missed playing AoE
which european civs did this strat work best with?
@@SirMattomaton thrash as in no gold cost, not bad per se
For those wondering how King Béla IV survived after the Battle of Mohi, he survived off an island off Croatia to ride out the Mongol follow up raids.
Didn't the mongols take massive casualties in Mohi? I remember reading up on it and apparently it was a close call for the Mongols. In the end it was the Chinese catapults that one the day rather than Mongol horse archers.
@george thompson they did because the mangudai got ambushed in the beginning by the crossbowmen and many of Batu's keshigg (keshik) bodyguards were killed by heavy knights. If the Austrian contingent didn't leave and the Cuman rebellion didn't occur, Batu's expedition would have ended much differently.
@@Cyricist001 Hey! I saw Klis Fortress ruins on my way from the Split air port. That place looks like it was pretty cool.
Kings Landing in GOT , right?
@@georgethompson1460 not as many as the europeans
9:33 Carpini's suggestion for united defence against the Mongols is remarkably like a "Medieval NATO".
yeah, his concepts were centuries ahead of his time. maybe that's why almost everyone ignored them
The First Crusade was maybe the First "Medieval NATO" in the 11th century.
What about the Holy League?
Thats kind of what the Catholic church was at that time.
I’m always massively impressed by anybody who went in search of data and studied the facts in such a modern way in the pre modern eras.
Very fascinating. I live in Kraków, Poland and it is so bizarre to know the Mongols invaded and sacked this city twice!
Every day at noon a short tune is being played from a tower of Mariacki Church
That tune is cut short on a single note.
What has it to do with Mongols?
Well, legend says this tune was played but a city watchman who had noticed Mongol raiding party. That tune was cut short when he was killed with an arrow to his neck.
@@PobortzaPl you'd think he'd know that. Expats are adorable.
@@st3pp3nw0lf86 Immigrants are great, especially when they turn into ambassadors of the country they moved into
@@st3pp3nw0lf86 Of course I know that.
@@PobortzaPl No, the Noon bell across related to the 1456 victory of John Hunyadi over the Turks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1456)#Noon_Bell
Pope Callixtus III ordered the bells of every European church to be rung every day at noon, as a call for believers to pray for the defenders of the city.[12][13] The practice of the noon bell is traditionally attributed to the international commemoration of the victory at Belgrade and to the order of Pope Callixtus III, since in many countries (like England and the Spanish Kingdoms) news of the victory arrived before the order, and the ringing of the church bells at noon was thus transformed into a commemoration of the victory.[14][15][16] The Pope didn't withdraw the order, and Catholic and the older Protestant churches still ring the noon bell to this day.[13][15][16][17]
This custom still exists also among Protestant and Orthodox congregations. In the history of the University of Oxford, the victory was welcomed with the ringing of bells and great celebrations in England. Hunyadi sent a special courier, Erasmus Fullar, among others to Oxford with the news of the victory.[18]
Cappini: This is how you beat the Mongols."
European lords: "I'm not paying for that."
also European lords: *pays more for losses and for tribute*
Pretty typical for political "leaders" up to and including the current day. Ignore the problem, let the people shoulder the bill, slap them down when they start demanding answers and action, say it was gods will.
@@evanulven8249 yeah exactly. the old "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"
lmao
@Swarmpope there's a reason few people listened to it. Especially top level generals. The Mongols weren't serious about invading or occupying. They were little more than thieves and burglars at that point.
The correct way to respond to thieves and burglars is to upgrade your defense and security. Hence walls, fortifications, castles and so on worked pretty good.
That's why entire cities in Eastern Europe started to turn into completely walled up fortifications. To keep out the bandits and criminals.
@Swarmpope Well he did come up with ideas on how to beat them in the field as well. Maybe it could have saved them a substantial amount of pillaging. Or maybe it would have been a complete disaster, who knows.
Carpini is such a underestimated hero. What he did was amazing. They should make a film or series about this
But the europeans lost lol
@@VSM101 No "Europe" didn't lose. Mongols in fact carefully stayed away from going any further than East Europe. They mostly resorted to pillaging and raiding and stealing. Basically just trying to gain ground in Eastern Europe was costly to them and if they went any further West they would have met much stronger enemies and fortified land.
@@marumi808 The main problem to them wouldn't be stronger enemy but rather you have to consider at that point, the Mongol Empire was too big and thus too stretched, making administration and military logistics very difficult, cuz one fundamental thing you gotta understand that no matter how strong an army is, they're still humans, and so the further they travel, the costlier it becomes in terms of time and energy, hence a rapidly increasing demand for food and arms transportation as well as reinforcements.
@@donniepinns1472 I think that this is definitely an important factor but another important factor is that the Europeans had a ton of fortifications, castles, mountains etc. Can one imagine the Mongols fighting and winning on an open plain, like Hungary? Yeah, sure.
Can one imagine the Mongols fighting in the Alps or similar difficult terrain? Not really. Can one imagine the Mongols sieging big European castles? Also pretty unlikely, at least very costly and the Mongolian population was really low, they had to conserve their manpower and exploit their tactical advantage.
@@GermanEistee2000 You're right. Also, as I see it, fortifications shouldn't be too big of a problem for the Mongols, but rather, the sole factor that's the true pain in the ass for the Mongols is "difficult terrains", notably mountainous and forest-thick areas. I say this because, some people may overlook one point, that is the Mongol Empire wasn't just good at hit-and-run tactics, but they were nonetheless highly efficient in siege warfare as well. So, overall, they were well-operational in open plains, not too rugged geography.
Take for example, the Dai Viet (Vietnam today) beat the Mongols convincingly 3 times with their utilising their natural rough terrains, which are lots of mountainous areas along with a dense coverage of tropical forests. The little Dai Viet country, though they did almost lose in the first Mongol invasion, also had excellent tactics and strategy that they combined Scorched Earth and Guerilla tactics to cause tremendous confusion and psychological distress for the Mongols, then they aimed at the enemy's food supplies, cutting them off for good, causing the enemy to starve slowly. All of that weakened and demoralized the Mongols greatly, allowing the little Dai Viet to launch devastating counter offenses which led to those 3 humiliating defeats for the Mongols.
Carpini was literally the OG commander Shepard.
Though if we push the analogy, this would have made for a wild twist in Mass Effect. Basically, you'd have the Council ignore Shepard - as is tradition - and then... the Reapers show up and get defeated by the Batarians, or something.
"Oh. So they were real, huh. Well, I guess the problem's solved anyway."
Glad I wasn’t the only one that saw the similarity.
"Ah yes, 'Tartars' - the immortal race of sentient nomads allegedly waiting in the East. We have dismissed that claim."
I wish i could like this twice @@perrytran9504
09:47 This is probably the BEST advice for fighting the Mongols that anyone can get, hands down.
By then, Mongolia tolerated religious freedom. The common people, the farmers and merchants and soldiers, would have all lived if kings and dukes did not order them to die for war. The lesson here is that bureaucrats would lie and kill humans just to retain their lofty livelihood. I hate bureaucrats.
Batu Khan sent a message to Frederick II of the Holy Roman Empire who was solidifying his grip on Sicily asking for his submission. He trolled him in response saying "he would gladly be his falconer". At the same time, Frederick II stocked up on crossbows and provisioned his castles.
Carpini: *Writes the most detailed and comprehensive strategy for battling the Mongols*
European leaders: *Ignore it*
European leaders are either fighting against each other or crusading in the Middle East or North Africa.
@@abelsoo5465 Yep, that too.
Not that surprising considering during this time, France and England were at war for years, The Pope & the Holy Roman Emperor still don't like each other, and worse of all the fourth crusade basically killed any unity between western & eastern Christianity. So they are very lucky that the Khan drink himself to death or else he would of conquering all the way to Spain, though probably not England since they rarely won naval battles.
it would cost 50 administrative points and 500 ducats.. no way the horde is gonna boom into europe..
Europeans: *succed anyway*
Great video! I would love to see more about Hungary, Nogai, the Cumans, and the Horde. In fact, could we see a video about what happened to the Cumans (there is, after all, a region called Cumania in the Kingdom of Hungary) in both the Christian and Islamic worlds? You guys do such a fantastic job.
There was a previous video I wrote on this channel focusing on Nogai's life and the invasions of Hungary and Poland after 1241. There's a few bits that are a little out of date now but it's still a serviceable overview. th-cam.com/video/699KWqGfl-w/w-d-xo.html
there should be dedicated video for Cumans, Kipchaks and Volga Bulgaria
This video is about those very subjects, there are lots of other interesting topics to cover before you instantly ask for more of the same :)
A part of the cumans took refuge in Hungarian kingdom and converted to Christianity, after some time they went over the mountains and made themself as the nobility over the region of Wallachia, during the wars with the Ottoman most of them were exterminated or became peasants, a few of them went to the German lands and joined various noble houses there.
My ancestors were Nogay horsemen. Proud of my ancestors.
Another great video and also about a part of Europe that isn't often covered as much. Keep up the great work!
@@Xelief The way we perceive history doesn't mean it can't be covered or talked about. All aspects of history can be learned from in my opinion
@@Xelief a small country like Hungary defeating the Mongols is embarrassing? Please
@@SithStudy
To be fair, often times the Mongols didn't need too... they had their way with most all the walled cities they ran across in Asia and the Middle East
@@Xelief the smallest and poorest of european countries beat the sh.t out of them . Get over it hater, we just built different
@@thalmoragent9344 castles are strategically different in that they allow for a defense in depth, where the mobile element of neighbouring castles (knights) can harass besiegers attacking a single castle.
The monk reminds me of Robert baratheon telling cersei Lannister what would happen if they simply hid in their castles whilst the dothraki ruined the kingdoms.
George is a student of history, and the dothraki are obviously based on the Mongols.
@@jimmythe-gent Indeed he is but the Dothraki are predominantly a representation of the Scythians and other Turkic steppe warriors. The Jogos Nhai and their wars with Yi Ti are however reminiscent of Imperial China vs the Mongols.
@@user-rd1hy8ll3l Ah, interesting. I kind of forget, but did the dothraki primarily use horse archers when they fought? I know they used the arakh/khopesh, but I forget about that
@@jimmythe-gent
They are partly based on the Mongols but the reality was that the Mongols were no threat to Europe.
The problem with the Dothraki is that they are fantasy and impossible to know exactly what they could and could not do.
This mongol series is one of the very best. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. A huge fan of you from Sri Lanka ❤️🇱🇰.
I personally applaud what Carpini was doing on behalf of all of Europe. It's a shame his suggestions were largely ignored. Great video.
One of the most dominant and the largest land empire and I find it surprising that other history channels hardly covers it. It will be great if more channels starts covering more about Mongols, Chinese, egyptians and Indians.
It's because English sources are extremely, EXTREMELY hermetic and self centered, so when anyone attempts to make such a video they can not even find sources.
@@kompatybilijny9348 Wow. Really... All that source comes from Wiki unless you believe that Wikipedia is an evil Capitalist Liberal Gay Plot of Human Alien Lizards to install chips into your brain and use them to buy consumer products, so you could die at 100 years old, taking further a 100 pills a day to make money off you.
There's a Chanel called Khan's Den, he makes videos about Steppe people, mostly about Turkic culture but also Mongols and other nations from the steppe and empires that had interacted with them like China, Korea and European/byzantine empire. If you are interested in a part of history that isn't covered at all in the west, maybe that chanel provides something new und interesting for you.
Most of this land was steppe or desert.
@@0Turbox you have such a skewed view. No western powers comes close to The Mongols when it comes to explosive power. Those horse archers from the steppe decimated middle east and cut their way into Eastern Europe.
It's been a while since I saw a video about the Mongols on this channel! Thank you for bringing the subjects related to Mongols back!
This channel is amazing. Thank you for existing!
Thanks for the very detailed history of the aftermath of initial invasion. This helps put their influence in a longer perspective of a clash of cultures across time
Channels such as K&Gs, has greatly expanded my knowledge of history. This video alone is jam packed with understanding the time period. I suppose to know history is to know war. Well done K&G as always
the Teutonic Knights never fought with the Mongols, Polish knights fought with them. Don't fake history.
@@wd2862 I have no idea about any of that.
I heard Frederick II, HRE, ordered the construction and expansion of new castles and fortifications and the stockpiling of crossbows.
Although the Mongol threat came late in his Reign.
@ 12 mins: Wow, I'm really impressed! That was some really good, detailed, practical and tactical advise he gave! I would feel much more confident going up against the extremely scary Mongols after having read this set of instructions!
While you did mention Nogai's failure to raid Serbia, you failed to mention that Dragutin and Milutin managed to do it by employing Carpini's tactics of staying in formation with a simple signal from a horn if anyone broke of trying to chase the Mongols
Thanks for the video I'm currently fighting the Mongols in medieval 2 total war so this is great to go along with that.
Spam armor upgraded mailed knights
Actually there is known how Lithuanians fought Mongols in Rus principalities. For example Grand duke of Lithuania Gediminas in battle of Blue Waters used a curved line formation of 6 columns that prevented Mongols to outflank Lithuanian troops. Other sources mention that Lithuanian infantry used to form a defensive circle of shields and used their pikes to strike against mounted Mongols cavalry. It shows that Eastern Europeans studied mongols warfare and adopted successful tactics to win battles.
The Golden Horde is not the same as mongol empire lol
Golden Horde was a rump state
Mongol empire wouldn’t easily crushed all of europe if they didn’t fall apart from infighting
@@CJ-fs1zr "Easily crushed all of europe" is not very likely. While they were effective at battles and managed to burned down wodden castles and layed siege to for short durations, stone castles where a problem for such a large army. The mongols army lived off the land they raided, besieging a castle for a duration of time was not their style of fighting, in the east they sometimes had to move on when a siege took too long. The holy roman empire had the fighting problem of not being able to rally a big army from so many states, but all those independent duchies and kingdoms led to them each building their own castles and strongholds. The mongols would have had to besiege several castles to conquer a small area. Historians estimate that there were around 10000-25000 castles in the HRE several thousand of them being built from stone, far more than in eastern europe. It would have been very costly with many civilians being killed or enslaved, but behind the HRE there would have been the far more centralized France to be faced. The Geography of Central and Western europe was also a big challenge as there were many vast forests, marshes and rivers, the Mongols had the primary goal of conquering the Eurasian Steppe after all
@@lionljb They had Chinese and Persian siege engineers best of their times
Stop coping with muh castles and muh climate
Southern China had tropical climate and many more fortifications and they conquered China
If they can reach Poland within a year of conquest of europe then all of europe had no chance given the fact it took a decade too conquer Persia while it took decades too conquer China
Maybe ten years max for europe being conquered and that’s me being generous
this isn’t biased it’s just very obvious
Saying the opposite is biased and probably from westerners who can’t cope
@@CJ-fs1zr please don't tell me you compare a medieval european castle, situated on a hill/mountain or in a lake, with a chinese walled city (some with dirt wallls). The Mongol conquest of South Korea was slow bc there were sturdy defenses. At Esztergom the mongols managed to breach the wodden city wall after a lenghty siege, but the population had burned all houses and taken all valuables retreating into the stone citadel, which the mongols were unable to take. i recommend watching Kings and Generals video about the mongol army, especially the chapter concerning siege warfare
@@lionljb You’re relying only on Kings and Generals who I have watched and the vids were western cope. Even whatifalthist a very pro western TH-camr admits Europe would’ve been done for. Persia and China had walled fortresses 🤣. Even hypothetically they can’t breach all they’re just gon starve up there? Yes cause they went all the way through bulgar region and Central Europe in one year including destroying knights cavalry divisions with minimal casualties and Muh Castles will stop them.
Go on alt history boards and look at th arguments. It’s so obvious and the only people denying only bring up Golden Horde second invasion, castles, and climates 💀. Explain the first invasion and why europe was destroyed hmmm Hungary btw was powerful during that time period and had the ooga boots castles 🤣
Thank you King's & General's for your great content 🔥🌟🔥
Fantastic documentary. Not many videos about the response to the initial Mongol invasions.
Not many people mention that Mongols had a conflict with Serbia. During the first raids they plundered Serbia, but later during the rule of Saint King Milutin he defeated their units, who probably weren't numerous like in other campaigns and more or less acted as mercenaries or allies for their vassals. But he defended the country nonetheless and avoided destruction when he sent his maybe illegitimate son who would become king in the future as a hostage. I also think that some Cumans fled to Serbia as well. There are traces of them in the names of some villages.
So, all in all. Thanks for mentioning that minor event.
I wouldn't be surprised, most Cumans fled to Hungary, the Bulgarian Empire, and the Byzantine Empire
can you provide examples of those names?
@@briantuk3000 Kumanica village, as well as a monastery. You have Okanović surname which I read somewhere that it was of Cuman origin(Okan). I remember there were a few more villages but I can't remember the names now. However, most of those Cumans who moved to Serbia, were settled in the territory of present day North Macedonia since back in those times it was ruled by the Serbs. Town of Kumanovo is the best example of that. But there are some other minor as well.
@@briantuk3000 But the Cuman influence in medieval Serbia was nowhere near as close or significant as was in medieval Hungary or Bulgaria who even had Cuman dynasties ruling them.
The Mongols are Serbs 🤣🤣
4:17 Really like that you used a model from Mordhau, the game has a variety of many armor, nice to see the game being used as a template in this channel
Excellent job guys! I've long been interested in this subject.
One of my favorite videos on history as of this year XD, keep up thr good work and interesting topics guys ❤
Caroline is the best argument against time travel to tell ancient people how to beat their foes. They didn’t listen even to their contemporaries.
The ammount of knowledge and information in these videos is outstanding. By far one of the most detailed and knowledgeable channels i have come across. Keep up the great work.
Nice video. Very well made and very informative. Thank you
Thank you.
I learn immensely with your videos - history's
An interesting take on things, but I'm not sure I agree. Bela did enact a lot of reforms and it is quite likely they worked. The internet people you say disagree with you are not just on the internet, there are real scholarly books that take the same viewpoint that you disagree with.
Yeah it's like he assumes Carpinis (who takes up half the video btw.) assessment was perfect and everyone who did not follow his suggestions automatically failed. It is pretty weird. Also the Hungarian Kingdom pulling through the second invasion relatively intact is well documented.
Yeah. Love this channel, but sometimes they post some pretty mediocre videos and outright pass their personal interpretations as facts. The make it sound as if Europeans were too incompetent and greedy to succesfully repel Mongol invasions after 1240s, even though that is literally what they did. They also try to discredit the success of Bela's reforms as self-glorifying propaganda when the Second Mongol Invasion of Hungary happened well after he was dead, so that doesn't even make sense.They gloss over a LOT of information to "debunk" this well-known European victory.
What the Mongols has done has never been done before and will never again be repeated. The most underrated empire in mankind history.
Have you any any idea? They conquered the world.
Arguably the most powerful empire on the planet of ancient times was Roman Empire.
@@stephenmulligan7413 Chinese empires were always far stronger... if they went 1v1 they would have been wrecked... Atila the hun sacked europe because the Han empire pushed them west
@@stephenmulligan7413about power
Roman empire is non comparable to mongols
Mongols fought Chinese,Koreans,Samurai,Europian knights,Kievan Rus,Hashashins(assassins),Muslims
west to east of known world and most powerful of that time.
Thing is western media dont like mongols so they make it look like they are just barbarians.
If learn about mongols little
U will know the answer
@@artificialintelligence200 Romans fought Italics, Greeks, North-Italic Celtics, Carthaginians, Illyrians, Berbers, Iberians, Armenians, Persians, Arabs, Hebrews, Parthians, Dacians, Germanic peoples, Gauls, Britons, Picts, Caledonii, Scythians and Im missing. What are you trying to prove? Also the roman empire lasted for 1000 years.
This video was very satisfying, especially the part about Giovanni da Pian del Carpine.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
I hope for great expansion of all its content the best history channel by far there is not enough time in a day for such a great channel
remarkable production value
Uh, Teutonic Knights represented as knights from Poland or Duchy of Lithuania, this is quite a good example of miss-information
I doubt that was intentional but I was a little disappointed that their contribution wasn’t mentioned in spite of them being used in the thumbnail.
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Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!!
Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!!
Not chasing fleeing Mongols!!!!
Is this so hard to understand????
Precisely
Even Mongols chased fleeing Mongols lol.
Apart from the publication of both Franciscans "De itinere Fratrum Minorum ad Tartaros", there is also a separate description of Mongalorum prepared by Benedictus Polonus (traveling with Carpini) "Relatio fratris Benedicti Poloni".
I Always Enjoy Yout Well Documented Stories Of History
another great video. i am watching 2 or 3 a day.
Wonderful video as usual! European lessons learned and at least intended reforms are not something I had learned about before.
Could we get a video on Grand duchy of Lithuania,and Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth (European Union predecessor) please? Great content in your videos,great job guys,time watching them isn’t time wasted 👍
Carpini was a good man, who wanted to save lives and defend Europe from those whom he saw as evil invaders. He saw the devastation the Mongols brought and heard firsthand accounts from those who survived, and wrote down everything he could think of into a practical Guidebook to preserve life and stand against the Horde.
Yet, like most good men, Greed, Selfishness and the Disunity among the rulers of his day ruined and squandered his ideas. So saddening to see, and even more saddening how unsurprising such a result was.
All in all, amazing Video as always K&G!
Thank you , K&G .
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A favourite tactic of Byzantines during their low point against the Arabs (AD 600-800), was to ambush the booty-laden retiring invaders. And yes, the Byzantines also employed mounted armoured lancers with rear rank unarmoured archers, something they learnt from the Huns and other steppe people's
European armies often used mounted crossbowmen in a ratio of 1-4 with their knights to screen against opposing cav.
good tatcic for no exsit 🤣😂
@@Terminator47. they have turkic blood but that's not the same as being turkish. Turks are just another Turkic ethnic group sadly for you nationalist
Is it really the only way to counter horse archers with.... horse archers? Common that cant be it.
Byzantium was a failed culture.
I liked the advertisement beginning with chopping an onion, I thought you were going to mention how to deal with the mongols using these knives. But it was a happy ending.
Love what you guys do! Thanks for all the history!
Loved this! Thanks
Yes, more Mongols series please. its so interesting and inspiring. and please introduce more about Caghadai khanate, which is also very important for the world history, especially very significant for where is todays turkistan, afghanistan, pakistan, and india area.
Tsagadai* khanate
we know it as the Chagatai Khanate here in the West
my thoughts: _New K&G today, I will watch it later.._
K&G: *Mongols*
_watches instantly_
Surprised you didn't bring up the numerous loses the horde had against invading Lithuania with the Golden Horde eventually falling to Grand Duke Algirdas' conquests
Also 18:50 shows a Teutonic knight for some reason when Lithuanians were skilled at light cavalry and ambushing which they had used against the crusaders beforehand
We tend to be overlooked, especially on this channel 💀
@@Comrade_Marius Yeah I agree, Lithuanian history is great and very underrated.
Yes! Battle of blue waters was influential! Mes lietuviai turime garbingą istoriją
I got here, in the section of comments to mention that I was also surprised in negative way that video authors showed Teutonic Knights (who wanted to kill... I mean to convert into christianity Lithuanias). I love this channel, but this passage was a failure.
And btw. Perhaps one of the reasons why there is so little about the history of Lithuenia is a shortage of sources, especially on prechristian period?
And if you can recommend any YT channels in english about history of Lithuenia (in emglish) I would be happy to visit them.
Regards from Poland
@@Comrade_Marius shhhh gotta make mongols look strong and cool and europeans weak and hopeless. We know facts point that europeans crushed them without even trying
This has explained a great deal to me. Especially regarding the large amount of Pagans in Hungary.
Fantastic video. Subbed.
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4:15 don't think you can hide that Mordhau character from me with a slick filter
I was looking for a comment like this
The Mongol invasion of Europe resulted in a continental concern eventually triggering an alliance of various European states such a situation was only preceded by Huns and followed by Ottomans
The Turkic and the Mongol horde are pretty much infamous conqueror. They think the world belongs to them. The Crusade also started when the Seljuq Turks conquer most of middle east in a swift invasion. It seems Europe have a trauma with the nomadic central asian.
And recently, Russians.
@@UnionAndroidSRboi So you consider Russia non-European or as an outside invader ?
What About the Magyars before they settled?
@@giuliogiuliani4054 Didn't cause a continental concern lol Magyar tribes never posed a threat to invade whole Europe unlike the above mentioned three
Just found this channel and it's impressive. 😊
That segue into the ad was such a glorious 180-turn that it almost snapped my neck 😂
Thanks for the interesting video. The correct name of the franciscan friar is Giovanni di Pian del Carpine. Pian del (or "di") Carpine is an old town (today its name is Magione, in Umbria, central Italy) of Etruscan origin. The name seems to derive from the name of an Etruscan family "Carpnti", later in Latin "Carpinius". Giovanni was born in Magione, in 1252.
Great video. Got very interested in the Mongols and their history after reading Conn Iggulden's book series about the life of Ghengis Khan, and then his series on the Romans and the life of Gaius Julius Ceasar. Great series if anyone like based on history novels.
great video as always
Love the accidental Partridge in pondering what to cook the Mongols for dinner. Keep them coming!
Before the rise of Genghis Khan Mongolic was spreading at westward and absorbing Turkic speakers (Janhunen, 2008). During the Mongol expansion, Turkic speakers whose tribes and states had been incorporated into the Mongol empire were so much more numerous than Mongols that, although Mongolian was the language of command, it was Turkic rather than Mongolic speech that was chiefly spread across Central Asia and the central and western steppe.
7:25 if I’m not completely mistaken, by this point this had actually been the fifth time the pope/s had excommunicated Emperor Frederic, but he just didn’t give a f
Exactly
thanks , great video
Great video, thanks!
I think it's a bit silly to speak about Polish and Lithuanian conquests in the XIV centuries and put the Teutonic-like Knights in the background...
Interesting video, I was always under the opinion that the Byzantine Empire bore the brunt force of the golden horde initially and then followed the path of appeasement to the Khan.
Excellent Episode.
Damn this was really well done. Man I love this channel.
Carpini: "Here's your Zombie Apocalypse Survival Guide"
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Really digging the new K & G style!!
Loving your history videos man!
Thanks For The Vídeo.
That was a damn wholesome plug right there.
The Romans were we versed in how to defeat Steppe Horse Archers. It is unfortunate that the collective knowledge of a 1000 years of campaigning against the latter was scattered following 1204. Had the 4th Crusade not torn the heart of the Byzantine Empire, much could have been learned from them and used during the first invasions.
All European kingdoms at that stage understood how to deal with hordes. Those on the Eurasian plain simply were not equipped and were on the fringes of European culture.
The Romans had plenty of difficulties against highly mobile armies. And it seems you miss that the Byzantine Empire ebbed and rose time and again throughout its history.
This was the dark ages, all the knowledge of Rome and Classical Era was forgotten until the Renaissance.
@@hangten1904That is actually not true. Mongol invasions were around the 13th century, which would be considered high middle ages. Dark ages is also known as late antiquity, the years after the fall of the Western Romans. There was a decrease in art and science due to lack of centralized government with funding to support such endeavors, but by no means were arms race and warfare forgotten. Armor and weapons continued to develop along with tactics.
I get vibes from game of thrones when robert told cersei how to battle the dothraki.
I think the shield you use as an icon for the battles is upside down. The Tree of Life has leaves which usually point the other way...
Music from Attila total war is so amasing. Pure honey to my ears!
Nice video !! How do research so fast on such broad and historic topics ?! Your videos are info bombs
Good team
@@KingsandGenerals You could have mentioned Ivaylo the peasant Tsar.
Results was like after Viking and Hungarian invasions in West-Europe: built up network of stone fortresses, castles fortified(Roman style!) churches. That was working in 1285. In 1241-42 Mongols didn't attack Bohemia because already existed this fortress network, and Western Hungarian stone fortresses successfully defended themselves. There were a plenty of places where Mongols failed: by swamps of Vietnam, the sea by Japan, by the Mameluks(Mameluk leader knew the Mongolian tactics).
Wrong. There were not much stone castles in W Europe before the late 12th century.
@@peterjanossy7033Ok. It is true. Most of the parts buit from wood and earth. One suggestion is that these castles were built particularly in order to protect against external attack - the Angevins, it is argued, began to build them to protect against the Viking raids, and the design spread to deal with the attacks along the Slav and Hungarian frontiers.[45] Another argument is that, given the links between this style of castle and the Norman style, who were of Viking descent, it was in fact originally a Viking design, transported to Normandy and Anjou.[46] The motte-and-bailey castle was certainly effective against assault, although as historian André Debord suggests, the historical and archaeological record of the military operation of motte-and-bailey castles remains relatively limited. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_castle
It's truly incredible once you look back in history, seemingly unbeatable empires rise snd fall. It makes me think which one is next, there's new types of empires. It used to be about land, now its about control over tech and markets
The usa. It was defeated by Afghans who had neither tech, and had a much smaller market and landmass. The usa used to have a surplus but after 9/11 they lost a huge amount of money in war and have a big debt
@@zoybean Most of the debt owed is to its own self to the central bank. A small percentage is also held by foreign nations, however.
As for Afghanistan, it was a political defeat at home and the ineptness of the local military there, along with corruption in the Afghan government. Definitely not a military defeat, the Taliban were pushed out into the fringes, if not for Pakistan allowing the Taliban safe haven, they likely would have been made an insignificant factor.
@@zoybean No, defeated? Certainly not.
@@AwankO not to mention the elites in america don't care about winning they want americas best to die and excuse to expand their power
@Qasim Choudhery Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires for a reason. British Empire, USSR, America, etc all failed. There's nothing of value there, so it's just a money pit. The people are backwards, the culture is toxic, and the country is more or less only a thing due to borders others made for them. Afghans themselves have no national identity. It's a lost cause to ever go there.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
What pandemic?
@@thx1168 Coronavirus 2 electric boogaloo
Carpini's courageous efforts reminds me of so many other times in history that method and cooperative strategy has been spread to no avail. If it doesn't effect them where they are right now the don't care.
I was reading old book ones ,about great duel between Gengis Khans elder son Jochis and Lithuanian lowlander (zemaitis). Witch Jochis lost with sustaining mortal injuries, he gave his golden sword to winner. That stopped Mongols from invading Lithuania.
so bro sacrificed his life and gave his sword to the mr khan man to stop the invasion?
@@obeselord9501 no, Gengis Khans son lost a duel to Lithuanian fighter . He gave his sword to the winner. I believe there was some kind of agreement before duel.
do you have source?
@@batukaganbat6093 no, they never do 🤣
@@ShesMongolianASMR Mongols sucked in close combat, especially if the Lithuanian had armor. Monks are good with horses but one on one there is a high chance like over 70%chance they'd lose
Excellent video 📹
History reassessed
The people of Europe did do effective reconnaissance of the Mongols.
This is fascinating fr
In 1362 united Lithuanian and Rus (Ruthenian) troops defeated Mongols in the battle of Syni Vody (Blue Waters) (a place near the Syniukha (Синюха) river in modern Ukraine) and the era of Mongols in Europe came to the end...while Great Duchy of Lithuania spread from Baltic Sea to Black Sea.
"little is known about how Lithuanians defeated the Mongols"
Wrong, it's described in Eastern Slav chronicles, especially the battle of Blue Waters. But you ignored it in a fashion characteristic to westerners.
And western Europeans generally performed poorly against the Mongols.
@lunaticking Yeah because it's on like the other side of the world.
@@grappling.enthusiastWestern Europeans didn’t faced the mongols at all 😂
@@theentertainmentnation4694 battle of legnica
@@grappling.enthusiast "According to James Chambers, Henry's force numbered at most 25,000 troops, most likely less, and had a large number of untrained and poorly equipped men, sometimes with no weapons other than the tools of their trade" they had probably less than 100 templar knights such a great "Western" army like you say
Awesome video 👍
Love this channel
If you can capture Mongols in a pitched battle with heavy cavalry, they aren't so invincible.
@@rascalferret I beg to differ. If I recall correctly, the Poles figured that out. Pretty handily. And the eastern knights also did feigned retreats. Pretty sure they basically massacred an entire Golden Horde army with said tactics.
@@rascalferret Exactly. Proper chat mate 👍
Contrary the claim here, there happened a big battle between hungarians and mongols at Pest. Nogai's and Telebuga's army were defeated there, that was the reason of their withdraval.
Nothin like losing a battle to assist with getting your game up. FEAR is the great motivator.