@Ronathon02 YOU must be fun at parties. Because dropping the same body again is boring bro and not very cool looking because let’s be honest it’s boring and although I don’t need all that technology it would be cool to have it.
it's not that difficult to swap em out with aftermarket ball joints if you take offroading seriously. I'm willing to bet they already sell ones that fit, we just need to find out what size.
Awesome! Goodness, Toyota trucks are well designed. I am a devoted Toyota owner of a stock SR5 Tacoma. The vehicle impresses me every time I have to perform maintenance or drive it in adverse road conditions. Carry On Toyota.
No trucks or SUVs use unibody till date, but body on frame chassis. The only problem is that nowadays we call CUVs which are SUV alike cross hatch as SUVs, maybe due to Land Rover messing things up. A CUV is better on road than an SUV but worser off road than pure SUVs, a balance as it manages off road better than other other cars due to higher ground clearance, AWD, or body built and design giving that lift up, high ergonomics for it's size making it flexible for off road without damaging the body, and has not any less performance than cars cause they're tougher hatches just jacked up and bit sluggish.
@@slowazzes1972arent the new tundras already dropping valves? Also running a smaller displacement engine on boost to make up for the lost power will increase stress. However if they are designed well it shouldnt be an issue.
A panard rod is more durable. Watts linkage don't last, especially if you offroad. My 03 Land Rover Discovery has watts linkage in the rear, and while it does keep the axle better located on the road, if you wheel offroad alot and you flex out your suspension alot they don't last as long as a panard rod does.
Sliding control arm bolts with part of the bolt shaved off boasts reliabilty-durabilty-safety for family's and tough off roading capabilities paired with the tough frame and red control arms 👍
It's going to be some years before I even think about buying one of these. I need to see one of these things clear 200.000 miles in Texas or Arizona summer heat. Turbos! Not a smart move.
I think the time has passed for the Tacoma bullet proof reliability has passed. Turbo engines are under much more pressure and load and then there’s the Turbo which adds to the problem. I know Semi Trucks are Turbo charged but they also have 10 plus Gallons of Coolant and up to 5 gallons of oil. Anyway you could abuse the v6 with extended oil changes but try that with a Turbo charged vehicle and I doubt these will make it much past 150k miles. Think is if you load one of these down you probably end up with nearly the same mpg as the V6. There are always trade offs. Just wish Toyota would have give the buyer the a choice in either V6 or 4cyl. I remember all the Turbo charged 4 cylinder cars from the late 80’s through mid 90’s that came and went.
Have a 2023 highlander with this 2.4L turbo engine. So far I am really impressed. When comparing the power of this against the 4.0 v6 Tacoma this thing shines. Low end tq is fantastic, plus the 8 speed trans make it get up and go with ease. Time will tell if it is reliable.
Turbos are ok on large engines. Turbos on a small engine is a disaster. Turbos increase air pressure on the engine which ruins a small engine. They wear out quicker. This is still the best truck money can buy
@@Berto-1117 American diesels? They aren't American any longer they are all made or moving to Mexico. I'm a Dodge ram fan I drive a 2002 2500 Ram which is a great truck. New Dodge is owned by Fiat. No way would I buy a new Dodge ram unless maybe if it was a diesel. Most people that buy a Tacoma isn't going to do all that heavy towing anyways. Tacoma is the best truck you can buy hands down.
@@joeycronan2652 ram 2500s are still made in america. Toyota is nothing special anymore, they are pos like every new vehicle with a bunch of electric shit
@@impala-wf2sd Well it wasn't a mechanical problem it was a programming problem. Even on studded general arctic grabbers, 28 mpg over 60,000 miles on my 22 trd Off-Road here in the rockies.
@@impala-wf2sd There are a lot of veritable such as tires, driving habits, type of driving and tune. But used 50/50 on gravel/pavement in all conditions here in the rockies with 265 75 16" tires my 22 trd O.R. went from low 20's to high 20's using a popular tuner out of denver. Toyota's tune is so bad it's almost like they're trying to make electric vehicles look better or something. The 3.5 is not my choice for a Tacoma but it's more than up to the task when it's tuned properly. It's surprisingly quick for a Tacoma, like you wouldn't want it any faster because it's not meant for speed type of feeling. The 3.5 does have a weakness, that's asking too much of it with overland style tires and suspension or a huge heavy topper. It's a light duty truck for sure and the 3.5 does not do well when asked to do more than it was designed for, it revs to the moon if loaded down, low end tq is weak for any modern 4x4 truck.
If that’s your biggest gripe with a vehicle that’s pretty sad. If you can’t figure out how to pull up to the pump on the right side of vehicle instead . Maybe shouldn’t be driving
All the full sized trucks have BS frames and this taco got a beefy bix frame!! Nice. Gonna last along time. Not too sure bout the turbo but they had them in the old 4runners
That is how Toyota rolls they get a good thing and stick with it. Most of their vehicles, including new models or new generations are engineered with off the shelf parts that they know work.
I did not know that was coming. Wow, that is an oxymoron waiting to happen! The words "Quality Built & Mexico" used together. I hope Toyota can inspire the employees to produce a good product.
@@TucsonDude they actually started Mexico production for 2005 MY. But most were made in Fremont, CA still. Then they slowly shifted more and more to Mexico including to the new 2nd plant.
Insane Engineering is right, for Canada anyway. Box frames hold in Salt and rust out, repeating same failures and expecting different results is the definition of insanity!
What size are those tires? People won’t buy the trail hunter unless it has 33”s If it doesn’t people will go for a base 4x4 model and do their own mods
Wow I’m so not impressed!!!!I really want to see that engine get to 100k miles with just basic maintenance…..then we will talk!!!For now I stick to my 4.0 v6 !!
9 1/2 inch rear end. Although i guess these trucks are getting bigger and bigger even though they are the "smaller truck" Wonder if they will sell it as just the full size cabin or with a smaller club cab or even a single cab design
I can't really tell, it's hard to see if it even has a front differential. Other than that it's just missing a transfer case and front drive shaft. Edit: never mind, I noticed the tail of the transmission.
@@kodiaxx8307 Welcome to earth, on our planet Tacomas have had non turbo 4 cylinder engines since the beginning of Toyota trucks time. I think you’re going to like it here. Any size non turbo engine would be fine, a V8 would be best.
It’s a 4 cylinder. Nothing makes up for that. Rip Toyota as a major player in the truck game. Shoulda super charged those 5.7’s instead of making twin turbo v6’s too.
I hate how they are turboing the efffff out of all Toyota vehicles now. The 4Runner is next. So if you are going to get one, better go ahead and get that 5th gen. It’s the last model destined for greatness.
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Should just drop a 90s or early 2000s body on this thing :)
Yeah, get rid of all the good stuff, and keep the outdated body...
@@GAMMA_AFyou must be fun at parties
@@GAMMA_AF useless technology thats super expensive to repair yeah thats really "good stuff"
@@tyler93539Its a toyota it will last
@Ronathon02 YOU must be fun at parties. Because dropping the same body again is boring bro and not very cool looking because let’s be honest it’s boring and although I don’t need all that technology it would be cool to have it.
No grease zerks on ball joints ..... keeping the tradition alive
Well most people wouldn’t bother greasing them so they fail early
it's not that difficult to swap em out with aftermarket ball joints if you take offroading seriously. I'm willing to bet they already sell ones that fit, we just need to find out what size.
That’s not a Tacoma frame…there’s no rust.
yet
Get a Dodge then 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 true
Awesome! Goodness, Toyota trucks are well designed. I am a devoted Toyota owner of a stock SR5 Tacoma. The vehicle impresses me every time I have to perform maintenance or drive it in adverse road conditions. Carry On Toyota.
The rear is not coilover suspension, coilover means the spring(coil) is sitting over/around a strut. This is a coil and shock absorber setup.
He’s mentioning “coil rear” not coil over, which is referencing Toyota’s choice to forego leaf springs in previous models in favor of coil springs
he never said coilover mate, he said coil rear suspension. which it has. you can see the coils.
ah that's my bad, listening to it closer I hear him saying coil rear. I originally thought he said coilover.
Scheduled to fully rust through by 2027
Not in Cali
Making it easier for rotted frame replacements. They just pop off
Uh oh. Back to a full box frame. Can’t wait for the recall.
I caught that, too!
I will go pass this thank you.
That white banner is interrupting SO MUCH in the video. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Will this turbo engine blow up just like the new tundra turbo engine? Lol.
You mean like every turbo’d gas engine ever produced? Probably.
Ur right Toyota dropped the ball for the tundra launch but they figured that out by now I hope 😅
I can respect that they still use a regular style frame instead of a unibody frame
Trucks don't use unibody only cars do
No trucks or SUVs use unibody till date, but body on frame chassis. The only problem is that nowadays we call CUVs which are SUV alike cross hatch as SUVs, maybe due to Land Rover messing things up. A CUV is better on road than an SUV but worser off road than pure SUVs, a balance as it manages off road better than other other cars due to higher ground clearance, AWD, or body built and design giving that lift up, high ergonomics for it's size making it flexible for off road without damaging the body, and has not any less performance than cars cause they're tougher hatches just jacked up and bit sluggish.
@@caryhuffii7224Yes, obviously no trucks are monoque.
Only unibody midsize is the ridgeline but I don’t even consider that a truck
@@AsianNIGMA your right it's not for the exception of a bed
Lol basically it's now a 4runner suspension
Words mean nothing. A long Toyota reliability record with a V6 means everything
The 3.5 was not really that reliable though.
Turbo charged will kill that engine long before it should die.
@@Quest4Unknownyou know nothing
@@slowazzes1972arent the new tundras already dropping valves? Also running a smaller displacement engine on boost to make up for the lost power will increase stress. However if they are designed well it shouldnt be an issue.
@thebulgarianguy8461 our work 3.5 16 has 512k miles 😊
Rear coil overs is a plus for me. These are standard for their Hilux trucks. Just wish the 4 cylinder was a diesel instead of petrol.
Thank the epa and commiefornia
Passenger side fuel tank? …No deal
Mega, Badass! ❤🤩💯🤠🤘👍🙂
You lost me with the turbo 4 cyl!
Panhard rod and not Watts linkage like the Ranger on the back axle, therefore won’t drive as well.
A panard rod is more durable. Watts linkage don't last, especially if you offroad. My 03 Land Rover Discovery has watts linkage in the rear, and while it does keep the axle better located on the road, if you wheel offroad alot and you flex out your suspension alot they don't last as long as a panard rod does.
Nice! There early 2000 to 2004 frames were good too but this is beefier than those. Nice job Toyota.
Sliding control arm bolts with part of the bolt shaved off boasts reliabilty-durabilty-safety for family's and tough off roading capabilities paired with the tough frame and red control arms 👍
It's going to be some years before I even think about buying one of these. I need to see one of these things clear 200.000 miles in Texas or Arizona summer heat. Turbos! Not a smart move.
Turbos as great. Power and mpg. Not the best for off road though but 90 percent of people with trucks never go off road
I think the time has passed for the Tacoma bullet proof reliability has passed. Turbo engines are under much more pressure and load and then there’s the Turbo which adds to the problem. I know Semi Trucks are Turbo charged but they also have 10 plus Gallons of Coolant and up to 5 gallons of oil. Anyway you could abuse the v6 with extended oil changes but try that with a Turbo charged vehicle and I doubt these will make it much past 150k miles. Think is if you load one of these down you probably end up with nearly the same mpg as the V6. There are always trade offs. Just wish Toyota would have give the buyer the a choice in either V6 or 4cyl. I remember all the Turbo charged 4 cylinder cars from the late 80’s through mid 90’s that came and went.
Have a 2023 highlander with this 2.4L turbo engine. So far I am really impressed. When comparing the power of this against the 4.0 v6 Tacoma this thing shines. Low end tq is fantastic, plus the 8 speed trans make it get up and go with ease. Time will tell if it is reliable.
4 cylinder? No deal.
That's what I said about the new Colorado also.
The v6 from the previous tacoma was gutless though.
I hope Toyota will still offer the full 6-foot+ bed on the crewcab trucks as well. Then, I will be interested.
Well then you’re in luck cuz they do
@@adamfehr1994 Good! 👍👍
They do but it’s either a 2 or 5 seater no jump seats anymore
is frame just regular paint or is it powdercoated? i would fluid film or woolwax the piss out of it to help with rust prevention
Turbo is the worst thing that can happen to an engine...it shortens the life of the engine and it costs a lot to fix.
turbo gas engines are junk.
Turbos are ok on large engines. Turbos on a small engine is a disaster. Turbos increase air pressure on the engine which ruins a small engine. They wear out quicker. This is still the best truck money can buy
@@joeycronan2652far from it. All the american diesels will outlast this while pulling 2 to 3 times their weight
@@Berto-1117 American diesels? They aren't American any longer they are all made or moving to Mexico. I'm a Dodge ram fan I drive a 2002 2500 Ram which is a great truck. New Dodge is owned by Fiat. No way would I buy a new Dodge ram unless maybe if it was a diesel. Most people that buy a Tacoma isn't going to do all that heavy towing anyways. Tacoma is the best truck you can buy hands down.
@@joeycronan2652 ram 2500s are still made in america. Toyota is nothing special anymore, they are pos like every new vehicle with a bunch of electric shit
Nothing about this is insane.
The end of Tacoma reliability. Small motor, turbocharged complexity to solve a non existing problem.
Horrible gas mileage has always been an existing issue.
@@impala-wf2sd Well it wasn't a mechanical problem it was a programming problem. Even on studded general arctic grabbers, 28 mpg over 60,000 miles on my 22 trd Off-Road here in the rockies.
@@impala-wf2sd + Mine is tuned for economy, that is probably responsible for a significant portion of the mileage.
My 17 TRD on it's best day gives me 20 mpg
@@impala-wf2sd There are a lot of veritable such as tires, driving habits, type of driving and tune. But used 50/50 on gravel/pavement in all conditions here in the rockies with 265 75 16" tires my 22 trd O.R. went from low 20's to high 20's using a popular tuner out of denver.
Toyota's tune is so bad it's almost like they're trying to make electric vehicles look better or something. The 3.5 is not my choice for a Tacoma but it's more than up to the task when it's tuned properly. It's surprisingly quick for a Tacoma, like you wouldn't want it any faster because it's not meant for speed type of feeling.
The 3.5 does have a weakness, that's asking too much of it with overland style tires and suspension or a huge heavy topper. It's a light duty truck for sure and the 3.5 does not do well when asked to do more than it was designed for, it revs to the moon if loaded down, low end tq is weak for any modern 4x4 truck.
I like the gas cap on the driver side. My explorer was on the passenger side. Just takes a little more effort when gassing up.
Looks like upgrades you can buy in the xbox
The turn off is that the gas cap is in the passenger side
Driver side worldwide
Safer for when you run out of gas, so you're not standing in traffic.
@JuanMartinez-fj5zv nope, majority of vehicles in New Zealand and Australia, the fuel cap is on the passenger side.
A good driver will have no issue with this in practice.
If that’s your biggest gripe with a vehicle that’s pretty sad.
If you can’t figure out how to pull up to the pump on the right side of vehicle instead . Maybe shouldn’t be driving
I’ll stick to my 2021 Tacoma TRD Sport V6 leaf springs. If I need a sport engine Then I buy a car..
Do these come with a boxed frame?
All the full sized trucks have BS frames and this taco got a beefy bix frame!! Nice. Gonna last along time. Not too sure bout the turbo but they had them in the old 4runners
Interesting but I can't help but wonder will the Tacoma I might buy, have such a nicely coated ( painted ) frame like this?
I think it’s pretty cool how *gm* has everybody doing “eater eggs” now. lol 😎
Ha an aluminum spindle now, not cast iron. Shaving some weight.
Boxed frame. Insane engineering, used by NISSAN for years without fanfare.
What insane engineering we are talking about. Are we in 80s to show such basic Body on Frame setup and called insane engineering!.
Yeah, it's called a TRUCK for that reason.
@@TucsonDude My comment is regarding mentioning normal truck design as insane engineering just for the seek of uploading a video at TH-cam.
How thick is the metal on the frame.
...but that early 2000s 4runner tho! Got a friend who clocked 600k. Sold it and bought the same year with less miles
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
Picked up a 2020 to have the last true generation of the Tacoma. We’ll see how the turbo 4cyl resell value and reliability holds up 20 years from now.
Now is probably a good time for the Fluid film lol
Still just a 4-cylinder
Insane engineering? This 2005 levels of tech.
That is how Toyota rolls they get a good thing and stick with it. Most of their vehicles, including new models or new generations are engineered with off the shelf parts that they know work.
@@vanringoToyota has been shitting the bed recently so that’s not necessarily a good thing.
@@vanringo This newer engine in a truck will be the real test. Get ready for 50k 4 bangers as the norm.
@@maxwellhesher1790 They have? In what way?
What about this seems to indicate 2005 levels of tech? Looks pretty modern to me, not much different to any other body on frame vehicle currently.
Interesting, so they are using the full land cruiser rear axle. Damn
The L300 doesnt use the larger (10"?) unit found in the Tundra/Sequoia?
Wow... so insane.
Even the reliability of this truck is well hidden
The most insane part is the production in a new olant in Mexico by people getting $2 an hour
I did not know that was coming. Wow, that is an oxymoron waiting to happen! The words "Quality Built & Mexico" used together. I hope Toyota can inspire the employees to produce a good product.
Tacomas have been made in Mexico for a long time. I think ten years ago was the switchover. My 2011 was one of the last USA made models.
@@TucsonDude they actually started Mexico production for 2005 MY. But most were made in Fremont, CA still. Then they slowly shifted more and more to Mexico including to the new 2nd plant.
@@alex042687 Hmmm...interesting. I wonder if my "Made in USA" model was made in Fremont or San Antonio.
My 2017 TRD Tacoma was made in San Antonio, Texas.
Is the frame rust proof?😅
The welded sheet metal frame says it all
“Well we put a 4 cylinder in it but we etched a little picture into your suspension so”
This dude gotta be Johnny cash, you steal all 4 coilovers in your lunch box?! 😂
Next time put the caption in the middle and make it larger
Passenger side gas tank would just piss me right TF off!
Hidden tacos. Sounds like a dream
Need a closeup of the front swaybar disconnect setup.
I miss my 2013 tacoma.
all cars are adding more and more safety beef up frame, that, it becomes a heavy duty trucks.
looks alot like someone trubo'd a 3rz 4runner and added some $500 upper control arms in the front
Insane Engineering is right, for Canada anyway. Box frames hold in Salt and rust out, repeating same failures and expecting different results is the definition of insanity!
So they switched sides the gas cap is on?
What size are those tires?
People won’t buy the trail hunter unless it has 33”s
If it doesn’t people will go for a base 4x4 model and do their own mods
Beautiful
Wow I’m so not impressed!!!!I really want to see that engine get to 100k miles with just basic maintenance…..then we will talk!!!For now I stick to my 4.0 v6 !!
Coil suspension, not coilovers.
He said coil rear suspension. Not coil over.
Each of those state outlines probably cost $500 lol
9 1/2 inch rear end. Although i guess these trucks are getting bigger and bigger even though they are the "smaller truck"
Wonder if they will sell it as just the full size cabin or with a smaller club cab or even a single cab design
Oof turbo motor
That's definitely going to last 25+ yrs😂
We need a compact pickup this Tacoma is a porker.
Coil suspension, good luck hauling any good amount
Nice
How come the tailpipe is on the drivers side compared to previous years?
Could’ve at least gave us the turbo diesel 4 cy
Anyone notice the 2wd transmission in a 4wd frame
Yep
I can't really tell, it's hard to see if it even has a front differential. Other than that it's just missing a transfer case and front drive shaft.
Edit: never mind, I noticed the tail of the transmission.
@@miguelolmedo9178 it has CV axles up front just behind the front struts.
it has a drive axle in the front. maybe the front drive shaft is internal like a Subaru.
Did they still manage to hide the starter under a hard to remove major engine component?
they need to sell the frame for us 1st Gen guys!
SO INSANE!!!!!!!!😂
So one suspension arm is made in California, and the other is made in North Carolina? Do they have a twix situation going on? That's not right
A great hidden feature would be legroom in the back seat. 😉
I would love to get a rolling chassis like this for a resto mod..
Turbo charged and direct injection? No thanks.
I hate turbos, an na 4 cylinder would be fine.
@@kodiaxx8307
Welcome to earth, on our planet Tacomas have had non turbo 4 cylinder engines since the beginning of Toyota trucks time. I think you’re going to like it here.
Any size non turbo engine would be fine, a V8 would be best.
@@kodiaxx8307
Don’t get me wrong, my first pick will always be a na V8, but a na 4 cylinder would be better than a turbo.
9.5 inch rearend on a midsize truck is crazy ngl
And I think the Dana M226 in the frontier is still bigger
hi lift jack?! havent seen one of those since i was a kid
That's not a coilover suspension in the rear dude. That's a coil sprung axle with shocks. Big difference
What a mess.
stayed in NC my whole life never knew that
Now if only we could get the rear doors to actually open up on the Xtra cab models......WTF, major deal breaker!!
I give it a few years to work out the bugs. Never again buying a first year redesign.
How about frame rust resistant?
Turbos and hybrids no thanks. Keep it.
I wonder how long these frames will last
It’s a 4 cylinder. Nothing makes up for that. Rip Toyota as a major player in the truck game. Shoulda super charged those 5.7’s instead of making twin turbo v6’s too.
I'll stick to my 2021 Tacoma V6 3.5 l TRD SPORT with leaf springs
Brand new frame. Sure
I hate how they are turboing the efffff out of all Toyota vehicles now. The 4Runner is next. So if you are going to get one, better go ahead and get that 5th gen. It’s the last model destined for greatness.
Tie rods the size of a pencil have left the chat. Bronco style. 💀