UPDATE: The band is from ITALY! There's other bands with the same name that dont have anything to do with it. If someone still have doubt check this th-cam.com/video/KJDulcSYqfM/w-d-xo.html it's their old EP..4 songs. They claim that it's 1 original and 3 covers. If you scroll the video description you'll find the name of the owner of the first song that they claim its their "original" song. The guy was already protected by copyright so youtube putted his name in their video description. Original post: After the (deserved) shitstorm they've got, the band deleted their social media pages and magically the copyright on the song is gone. Crazy.
I’m really glad to hear that. This is the worst music theft story I have ever heard. This makes me very angry thst someone could do that to anyone. I’ll be keeping my riffs to myself. Satan!
Literally stole it, and made it sound worse in the process... I commend you for sticking to your principles and defending your work. You deserve the credit. I am so glad you got it worked out.
@@princeofcupspoc9073 Yeah, no...this is not the same thing. Neither of them legitimately ever took someone else's *LITERAL* recording, slowed it down, and used it as the instrumental part of their full track.
I don't know your music, I don't know the song, I don't know the other band.. But I watched the entire video because I was impressed by the stupidity of some people (the other band that stole the song), but also by how you've managed to stand up for justice and claim what was rightfully yours in the first place!
I’m no audio engineer, but I’ve recorded enough music with bands over the years to know that your explanation is right on point. This was a complete ripoff job! Glad he got this worked out.
I'm really happy the copyright is now gone. I'm happy for you. You are talented (and funny and interesting in your reaction vids) and humble so you deserve to be treated in a positive and right way. Hope you won't be bothered again. Hail from the north of France !
Know this "band" already. They followed my band on soundcloud and made Mayhem cover album. Well the thing is, that all those instrumentals weren't by them. Only the vocals. So I can tell you that most probably every song by them is stolen. I stand with you! Full support.
@@whazpoppin Necrolust, also in the end of the video, but be sure not to hate the one from Peru, they are an original band. This one is Necrolust from Italy.
Poor guy, that really sucks. Some people don't understand that taking someone's work like that is not only frustrating for the creator but also spitting on all the years of work he went through to be able to compose. Hope you don't have to deal with this ever again. Highfive from Japan!
When the copyright strike shows up, don't dispute it or contact anyone via youtube. Go directly to the website of whichever organization the strike was issued by, and contact someone who works at that company to explain the situation. You'll get things fixed way faster, and they'll likely remove the person who falsely claimed ownership of your music from using their site again. I deal with this kinda stuff nearly every week, it's by far the fastest and most efficient method of sorting everything out.
Oh man this is probably the 4th time I’ve heard about this kind of thing happening on TH-cam. It’s really making me rethink about starting a black metal channel for my own music. Man that sucks, why must people like that exist it’s scumbaggery.
Mad respect for you Boris! Why would some people call themselves musicians if they can't even create 3 minutes worth of their own music? I'll take a poorly written song with heart and honesty over a stolen one any day. Keep up the good work Boris!🤘🏻
I had some releases from this band on my channel. Just today I was looking for the EP you've mentioned, as I knew about it via Metal--Archives since it was released but couldn't find it any longer on their bandcamp. By chance, a guy posted a comment under one of the two videos I had. I did not know what he was talking about until I've asked him to show me and I got to this video of yours. I feel honestly ashamed for them, and I was left speechless thinking that I kinda liked their music. I guess they might have stolen their whole discography in the same way from other artists out there. Total scum. I've shared this video in my channel's "Community" section. I've also sent the video to some of my contacts. Things like this make my blood boil and the rest of the italian community should really see how crap like this cannot be left unnoticed. This is so fuc$ed up on so many levels.
Good job for sticking up for yourself and staying assertive throughout the whole ordeal. As an artist/musician myself, I’m offended that “band” did what they did
I too am a victim of artistic and creative theft... it totally kills the spirit and there is nothing lower... I hope you get some satisfaction when this is all settled
It's so stupid that this shit is still happening. I remember back in the day we caught a guy from Mexico stealing songs from bands like Urfaust and others, pitchshifting it to the point where you couldn't recognize it (but still we did) then adding his vocals on top of it. In your case they did the same thing sadly. Pitching the song down a bit and adding shitty vocals... only god knows how much more songs are stolen.
Thats insane!!!! Im glad you were able to track them down. i hope it gets resolved. That would piss me off so much if someone stole my music. Even crazier, they didnt even play it for real. They went Milli Vanilli with metal. Thats your emotion in musical form and people think they can steal it is absurd! Thats why people cover music to show respect. I hope all gets resolved for your benefit sir.
That is so terrible. Good job staying on top of them and figuring everything out. This is really a huge compliment to your black metal writing also. Not many can say this happened to them because their writing is so good.
They have such a shitty attitude, I can't even immagine how disrespectful and untalented they have to be to do something this shitty. You have every right to be pissed off. Keep up the good work, Boris!
One of my biggest fears is what happened to you: getting your work stolen and then having the youtube copyright system side with the thief. Thankfully you have an audience to back you up =)
Paul Davids experienced it to! (guitar youtuber and theacher), Someone published Paul's backing track and solo as his own. Then TH-cam claimed that he stole his original song, blocked Paul's song and send a copyright claims.
@@blitzofchaosgaming6737 Nope, he has got just warning since he has over 2 million subscribers. But, hopefully he cleared case when he showed master track and sheet music files made and saved before guys stole his music.
same thing happened with Australian producer Sewerslvt as well. In that case, the service used for posting music on social media decided to delete all of Sewerslvt's rights. Basically stealing every song made, and then saying "its not yours anymore". Which also meant that all music on other websites started getting copyright claims.
@@witkac87 From the youtube Terms of Service: Rights you Grant You retain ownership rights in your Content. However, we do require you to grant certain rights to TH-cam and other users of the Service, as described below. License to TH-cam By providing Content to the Service, you grant to TH-cam a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable and transferable license to use that Content (including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display and perform it) in connection with the Service and TH-cam’s (and its successors' and Affiliates') business, including for the purpose of promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service. License to Other Users You also grant each other user of the Service a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to access your Content through the Service, and to use that Content, including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display, and perform it, only as enabled by a feature of the Service (such as video playback or embeds). For clarity, this license does not grant any rights or permissions for a user to make use of your Content independent of the Service. Its too bad no one reads the terms before uploading content. They'd then realize Copyright is moot on youtube and claiming that people are violating your rights is a violation of the terms you agreed to.
That's so fucked up. They put a small filter on it so it's slightly different when a robot listens to it. I'm glad you were able to take care of it on your own because it would be really expensive to pursue this legally
Yep sounds like they just pitched it down a half step (which sounds like it also degraded the top-end of the compressed mp3 audio) without altering anything else.
This happened in my country (Costa Rica) A guy call Mauricio Arguedas, was cought stealing an entire Album from a band from Norway (Disiplin) a bunch of photos from other bands (svartidauði and other one from Australia). He created the logo, the "band members facebook" an email, he cheated us all. The supposed band called "BloodCraft" deleted everything. Because, one of the guys, from the bands, that i mentioned, discovered everything. This is pretty common in Black metal. Mauricio, is such a looser!
Italian metal scene is boycotting them deleting every review and interview both on 'zine, youtube channels and webzines. Sorry for that... We are not all like this.
i really like that the algorithm seems to understand pitch-shifting well enough that it works against thieves like those idiots (even though you were the target first)
Stealing an MP3 from TH-cam and then pitch-shifting it is about the standard of quality you would expect from a band that Photoshop's crowds and makeup on their photos.
Think of the bands they are doing this to that don't have the following, knowledge, or technical ability to do anything about it. Crazy. Glad you were able to resolve situation in the long run
I had no idea that a signed band could even get away with something like this. How depressing. I’m glad it’s all resolved now, and I’m glad you revealed their name. They don’t deserve any support or credit for their fake album.
I'm not much into Black Metal, but subbed and liked so you can get something out of this situation. I think their plot is not to sell albums, or even try to be a real band for that matter, but to tap into the generated revenue of the claimed material,betting that most of the victims won't battle TH-cam which is biased towards the labels. Maybe you should check the option of releasing all of your material through services like Distrokid for example- this way noone should be able to steal it!
I'm sorry this happened to you man, so crazy. It really illustrates the fraud hearing the tracks side-by-side. This is clearly a fake band trying to get by using other peoples art. I gotta say though this is honestly a really compelling story and would make an absolutely hilarious movie screenplay. Just imagine something in vein of "This is Spinal Tap" meets "Catfish". You've certainly handled this way better than I would have. TH-cam really needs to overhaul they're protections for creators.
What's actually insane is the fact they didn't even attempt to record it. The whole track is straight up just pitched down! At the very least remove the drums so it's less obvious in their case.
When the video started, this is what I assumed. Any reasonable thief would at least learn the song, and record it. They didn’t even have the decency to be good thieves. You can tell that music is not important to them, because clearly they don’t think it is important to anyone else. As if he wouldn’t notice that it was his work.
Well done mate, good job there. Took 2 seconds to realize they've just pitch-shifted your track... You're right that they aren't (decent) musicians and don't deserve to carry on getting away with this kind of crap!
I remember a few years ago, another “artist” literally stole one of Burzum’s newer songs and tried to sell/promote it as their own single on ITunes, etc as their own. I don’t understand how these “musicians” have such audacity to just steal
"Their version" of the song has obviously been pitch shifted an octave lower. It does sound like they used your original song and repitched it with perhaps time stretching to match original tempo. You should reconstruct "their version" with the original pitch and then compare. Various time stretching algorithms will also leave traces of residual artifacts thus one would not be able to do a phase conjugation test which would otherwise create mostly silence except for mp3 comoression artifacts. It seems they thought they could get away with fooling TH-cam algorithms, however, copyright algorithms detect the core elements of the song in its prime "fingerprint" so that detection of copyrighted songs that other people perform live through various instruments and recording gear be detectable. For that is how TH-cam mistakenly connected a 1960's song to your song. The auto detection algorithms are not 100% accurate 100% of the time, but they are close. Also, copyright algorithms might use more detailed and deeper scans than that of apps that identify songs such as Shazam and Soundhound. Since the auto detection algorithms do not always correctly analyze songs, often someone is responsible for actually listening to content and reporting such claims in those cases.
Sorry you were subject to this thievery. You are clearly very talented. Makes a person wonder how often this type of thing happens, and a real artist has to go through this process. Happy to hear they no longer have your music under their name! :)
glad that youtube suggested your channel and this video particulary ^^ your story reminds me two old situations that i lived : when it was Myspace's time ( a long long long time ago) "we" musicians used to follow each other, support and share Dates and gigs. A day a friend and me got the last Lp, at this time, of a semi pro band and i heard many of my riffs inside their Lp. The singer and me followed each other and we knew IRL too. Every time that i uploaded, naive i was, fresh stuff he was there and listened to this Second and Last story : my trademark / name DariaelectrA, that i made in 2008, is the nerve of a "battle" since these last three days cos a person tried to be famous and get money with my trademark / name... When you're a musician money is hard to get and being able to get a lawyer is very very complicate cos your daily job can only pay the bills...
First time finding one of your videos and I have to say this fucking sucks. As a musician myself I can't think of anything worse than what has happened here, especially the issues with Copyright claims. You handled this extremely well and I wish you best going forward. Love from the UK mate.
It's amazing how they tried to tell you that it was all a coincidence that "their" song sounded like yours. That was a note for note steal. Good on you for getting the copyright back. 🤘🤘
When I was in my preteens several years ago I admit I used to steal songs and publish them, ever since I started actually writing and recording my own music I realised just how shitty that was. I'm glad you exposed these dudes.
You're one of the few that can admit your mistakes and fix them, good to see people like yourself still exist because most people will try to lie their way through everything until they end up in legal trouble, then they try to lie some more and sound pathetic while at it.
To be honest when you did the comparison at first I was thinking "huh this sounds like a riff I came up with while jamming" (which is no slight at you, there just seems to be a common style of playing black metal riffs) and then when it got to the solo it was so apparently ripped off, sorry that happened friend :( you clearly work very hard on your art
Sounds kinda relatable) I have a funny story similar to this, back in 2013 i was making EDM/Dubstep and posted it on couple very underground local websites as well as soundcloud, it didn't gain any traction obviously and i took it all down in 2014, then switched genre to metal and continued my musical path there then about a year ago, my friend tells me that 2 of my old EMD songs are on spotify, one having 26000 plays in total, i look it up, and see that it's all over spotify reuploaded multiple times by different "labels" under various compilations since i didn't give any permission to upload my shit to spotify and earn ad revenue from streaming it, i fill complaint note on every instance of it explaining that these are my songs presumably stolen back in 2013-2014 and that i never gave anyone permission to reupload them on spotify and etc after some time most of the songs were taken down, but then 1 time someone emails me and saying that he supposedly have all the rights for these songs, that he bought it from someone else and that i'm "not a real person", asked me to prove that those were my songs and for some reason insisting multiple times to send him my ID scan picture)))) i sent him all the timestamps on the original project files, arrangement in-DAW screenshots, he probably just ignored it and continued to ask for my ID also stating that he have all rights on papers that he can send to spotify, i obviously asked him to show me those papers, he obviously refused) then he asked me to take the complaint down and he'll compensate me with money, i said that i wouldn't mind compensation but i won't take the complaint down since it's my fucking songs that HE posted, he ended up with saying that i'm not a real person one more time and never messaged me again, but the songs and still down from spotify, so i guess you can say it's a happy ending)
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that they stole your song, or the way how they responded with such negative attitude. I understand if they can’t play their instruments or write songs, but I still wouldn’t steal someone else’s work and publish it as my own, or even photoshop corpsepaint if I didn’t have any money to afford any. Glad that the copyright was taken down and that the band removed their social media pages, shame on them
wtf I've listened to necrolust I'm disgusted so glad u shared this experience I'm definitely not giving a listen ever again that's pathetic that they even used your music as their own and props to you because your music actually sounds impeccable 🤘so sorry this happened
Weeell, they did take the time to lower the pitch by a tone, which probably took about three clicks, so it's not like they didn't put aaaany work into it.
I just watched this video as I have only just discovered your channel and music. Your story got myself and my gf upset, we've also been ripped off by local musicians doing the same thing but not to an extreme like yours. Support to you from North Queensland Australia 🤘🤘🤘
Bro it’s the pitch shifting down and saying “we might’ve used similar chords” for me. The way that band would’ve found out I knew they stole my song, was being subpoenaed to court over it. I’m not talking to them and listening to BS that bands like that make up to save their credibility. Nope hit them where they deserve it the first time and I promise they won’t do it again. They apparently think it’s okay to do this. Protect your art. Artists like us spend countless hours not only writing but mixing and polishing our sound. Not to mention years of self doubt wondering if you’ll ever be good enough. Just to have it stolen.. ha! Tell that to my lawyer. 🤙🏼
Man, props to you. You have way more patience in regards to this than I ever would have. I've had some people steal photos from me for use on their website and I was way more aggressive about it, and they weren't even claiming it was their photo.
If you compose a track for a video you should always offer it for sale on services like bandcamp on the day you publish the video which helps to prove your copyright claim.
I love the disdain in your voice every time you say ".mp3". I feel that. Real musicians know it's .wav or nothing. Also, in the comparison between your song and "their song", sounds like they just put a peak filter pass on it and called it a day.
I love your videos Boris, and actually necrolust is a mayhem song (stating the obvious i guess) so if their mayhem fans of course the might have stolen a mayhem song or something in the style of a mayhem song which is what they did when they stole your song
Listened to whatever the most recent item is on their bandcamp and every song has a different production style, which makes me think they are probably all stolen as well
That’s scary. I don’t have composed music yet but I have my song lyrics on my web site. I’d like to turn them into music and make my own songs in the future. But I’m afraid that somebody will steal my lyrics and use them in their songs. So, I totally hear you and give you credit for bringing up this issue and exposing the thieves, scammers and posers. It’s your piece of art, your story, your feelings and your creation. Nobody should get credit using your art.
I made a logo for a local grindcore band 20 years a go here in Mexico... and last year I find out a crust band in USA using the same logo. The mexican band was called NO MÁS NO, and the band from USA is called NO MAS.
It sucks that you had to deal with this issue all because they are a bunch of poser talentless thieves that are trying to be "trve kvlt." I'm glad your copyright strike is gone. You deserve my true support.
One time I had some people steal a bunch of my photographs I’d posted online and then they sent me a cease and desist letter claiming I’d stolen THEIR photos. Luckily every photo I’d put online was cropped and I had the originals with the metadata. They had to suck it. Lol.
I completely understand your frustration and I'm sorry you had to go through that my friend. In a way you should be flattered that your creativity and talent for music even when just messing around is obviously way way beyond that of the vast majority.
As shitty of a state of affairs this is both in regards to their actions aswell as TH-cam being what it is with copyrights, I won't lie... those photoshopped images had me choking on my drink. Haven't seen your content before (hell this popped up in my recommendations so there's always that, hopefully the vid's circling around a bit more prominently in the algorithm so the bullshit gets exposed to more people) but hope it all works out in the end, this kind of fuckery shouldn't stand and the track sounded good!
This is so relatable. My old band stole my work by not mentioning me as the writer of the songs. Pissed me off, and they put it all on social media, streaming and youtube. I hope this gets resolved for you some day.
Always email yourself anything you write. Timestamps like that don't lie in cases where anyone tries to claim your work as theirs. I plan to do the same before a single piece of my material is uploaded anywhere.
@@markobighead3173 while that might help in court, you'd still need to go to court about it. That means you'd need to be paying a lawyer to represent you, and that ain't cheap. Also, you can't just sue somebody for violating your copyrighted material -- you have to prove actual damages. And that's not easy to do. You're really better off spending the time and money upfront to have your music copyrighted through official means. That's gonna be a different process depending on which country you live in..
They hit a creative wall, lean on licks or tunes they've grown up on and there it is. Look at Led Zepplin, almost every single hit they had was ripped off, some were identical.
@@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755 If you're talking about popular music standards, then it makes sense to recreate (or rather rip off) other catchy or infectious lesser-known songs. Not that it's the right thing to do, but I can see why people indulge in plagiarism in popular rock/metal spheres. But with black metal, a genre that is rather niche, it's still more respectable to write some sloppy, generic nonsense, as long as it comes from your own heart and soul. You don't even need to be very creative, just genuine.
Some years ago I busted a venue using my bands name to advertise a show we weren’t even playing. At first I was kinda flattered. Once I realized they were using our name to get people in the door and make them money, then I started to get angry. This kinda garbage is deplorable. I hope you can clear it up.
they call themselves "the true necrolust"... what a joke. love the comment on metal archives on said EP: "The song "Black Masses from the Depths" has been withdrawn from the disc due to copyrights issues between members or former members, please delete the title from the disc. thank you"
That's absolute cringe. The fact that they're in their 40s, photoshopping corpse paint and live crowds and their first release contains numerous examples of directly stolen material, it sounds like a bunch of losers who listen to black metal but have absolutely zero ambition or talent, so they thought they'd just cut their way through the process to try and profit off black metal fans in the hopes they'd be ignorant enough not to know the difference.
I've always been afraid of material thieves. That's why I don't post my music until its fully complete. Makes copyright foolproof. Always keep your original digital raw tracks before mixing. Date stamps, all that of tracking has dates which can be tracked and hold as evidence in your favor.
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UPDATE: The band is from ITALY! There's other bands with the same name that dont have anything to do with it.
If someone still have doubt check this th-cam.com/video/KJDulcSYqfM/w-d-xo.html
it's their old EP..4 songs.
They claim that it's 1 original and 3 covers.
If you scroll the video description you'll find the name of the owner of the first song that they claim its their "original" song. The guy was already protected by copyright so youtube putted his name in their video description.
Original post:
After the (deserved) shitstorm they've got,
the band deleted their social media pages and
magically the copyright on the song is gone.
Crazy.
Good no one likes thief’s
Cheers!
I’m really glad to hear that. This is the worst music theft story I have ever heard. This makes me very angry thst someone could do that to anyone. I’ll be keeping my riffs to myself. Satan!
You did the right thing Boris 🤬
i'm glad.
Ah 1964 I remember when the Beatles went to Norway and went all black metal.
That was the Black album, right?
That version of She Loves Me is absolutely one of my favorites. Check out the wall of death at their Oslo show.
@@dubmaster01 I believe so.
@@wanderslostify lmao hahaha
😆 🤣 😂
Literally stole it, and made it sound worse in the process... I commend you for sticking to your principles and defending your work. You deserve the credit. I am so glad you got it worked out.
Hey, if Metallica and Led Zeppelin can do it, why not?
@@princeofcupspoc9073 Yeah, no...this is not the same thing. Neither of them legitimately ever took someone else's *LITERAL* recording, slowed it down, and used it as the instrumental part of their full track.
They lowered the pitch a lot bit and it lost a long of quality
BOOMERS CAN'T SHRED START AT THE FIVE MINUTE MARK.
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@Corey Bakers Entertainment Channel DID YOU WATCH POST OR READ IT?
I don't know your music, I don't know the song, I don't know the other band.. But I watched the entire video because I was impressed by the stupidity of some people (the other band that stole the song), but also by how you've managed to stand up for justice and claim what was rightfully yours in the first place!
Same here dude, same here...😂
Actually black metal is about stealing songs and being a terrible person.
Likewise
Same. It was just a riveting story.....
This is probably the most kvlt reply I've ever read.
From an audio engineer point of view: they literally just pitch shifted the original song and scooped the mids. They are blatant thieves.
Exactly what I thought when I heard the side by side samples. Really disgusting. How do these people look themselves in the mirror.
yeap...it's prolly 3-4 semitones down using Ableton :D
I’m no audio engineer, but I’ve recorded enough music with bands over the years to know that your explanation is right on point. This was a complete ripoff job! Glad he got this worked out.
dry reverb, pitch shift and they prolly did it in the free version of reaper
Ooo
We’re very sorry to discover that the thieves are from our country… Apologize from 🇮🇹, and horns up for your class!
I'm really happy the copyright is now gone. I'm happy for you. You are talented (and funny and interesting in your reaction vids) and humble so you deserve to be treated in a positive and right way. Hope you won't be bothered again. Hail from the north of France !
Sounds like you live close to the thief in question.
Know this "band" already. They followed my band on soundcloud and made Mayhem cover album. Well the thing is, that all those instrumentals weren't by them. Only the vocals. So I can tell you that most probably every song by them is stolen. I stand with you! Full support.
Be sure to check their entittled 'every song', they might steal your song too and gets all the credit
What was the Bands Name? Asking for a friend
@@whazpoppin Necrolust, also in the end of the video, but be sure not to hate the one from Peru, they are an original band. This one is Necrolust from Italy.
@@UnknownBlackMetal Thank you. I don’t want to hate on anyone. But i was curious if i could find something about them. Greetings 🙌🏼
@@UnknownBlackMetal THEY STOLE THEIR NAME TOO?? >HAHAHAHA
Poor guy, that really sucks. Some people don't understand that taking someone's work like that is not only frustrating for the creator but also spitting on all the years of work he went through to be able to compose.
Hope you don't have to deal with this ever again. Highfive from Japan!
Can’t you just copywrite strike them?
When the copyright strike shows up, don't dispute it or contact anyone via youtube. Go directly to the website of whichever organization the strike was issued by, and contact someone who works at that company to explain the situation. You'll get things fixed way faster, and they'll likely remove the person who falsely claimed ownership of your music from using their site again. I deal with this kinda stuff nearly every week, it's by far the fastest and most efficient method of sorting everything out.
I will spread this in your name
Oh man this is probably the 4th time I’ve heard about this kind of thing happening on TH-cam.
It’s really making me rethink about starting a black metal channel for my own music.
Man that sucks, why must people like that exist it’s scumbaggery.
Mad respect for you Boris! Why would some people call themselves musicians if they can't even create 3 minutes worth of their own music? I'll take a poorly written song with heart and honesty over a stolen one any day. Keep up the good work Boris!🤘🏻
they're not TRVE KVLT, obviously.
"mad respect" 🤣
@@johnqpublic2718 that was funny to you...why?
I had some releases from this band on my channel. Just today I was looking for the EP you've mentioned, as I knew about it via Metal--Archives since it was released but couldn't find it any longer on their bandcamp. By chance, a guy posted a comment under one of the two videos I had. I did not know what he was talking about until I've asked him to show me and I got to this video of yours.
I feel honestly ashamed for them, and I was left speechless thinking that I kinda liked their music. I guess they might have stolen their whole discography in the same way from other artists out there. Total scum. I've shared this video in my channel's "Community" section. I've also sent the video to some of my contacts. Things like this make my blood boil and the rest of the italian community should really see how crap like this cannot be left unnoticed. This is so fuc$ed up on so many levels.
Good job for sticking up for yourself and staying assertive throughout the whole ordeal. As an artist/musician myself, I’m offended that “band” did what they did
I thought "pirate metal" means bands like Alestorm and Running Wild, but I have to admit this band fits the description better.
I too am a victim of artistic and creative theft... it totally kills the spirit and there is nothing lower... I hope you get some satisfaction when this is all settled
Sure
It's so stupid that this shit is still happening. I remember back in the day we caught a guy from Mexico stealing songs from bands like Urfaust and others, pitchshifting it to the point where you couldn't recognize it (but still we did) then adding his vocals on top of it.
In your case they did the same thing sadly. Pitching the song down a bit and adding shitty vocals... only god knows how much more songs are stolen.
Thats insane!!!! Im glad you were able to track them down. i hope it gets resolved.
That would piss me off so much if someone stole my music.
Even crazier, they didnt even play it for real. They went Milli Vanilli with metal.
Thats your emotion in musical form and people think they can steal it is absurd!
Thats why people cover music to show respect.
I hope all gets resolved for your benefit sir.
That is so despicable...makes you wonder if they ever wrote a song of their own...
Nah, probably not. Those sad losers probably don’t have any instruments, just Audacity and maybe a cheap mic
That is so terrible. Good job staying on top of them and figuring everything out. This is really a huge compliment to your black metal writing also. Not many can say this happened to them because their writing is so good.
They have such a shitty attitude, I can't even immagine how disrespectful and untalented they have to be to do something this shitty. You have every right to be pissed off. Keep up the good work, Boris!
Just from their photos, you can guess what sort of band it is. 😂
One of my biggest fears is what happened to you: getting your work stolen and then having the youtube copyright system side with the thief. Thankfully you have an audience to back you up =)
Paul Davids experienced it to! (guitar youtuber and theacher), Someone published Paul's backing track and solo as his own. Then TH-cam claimed that he stole his original song, blocked Paul's song and send a copyright claims.
@@witkac87 You sure they didn't block him for violating terms of service?
@@blitzofchaosgaming6737 Nope, he has got just warning since he has over 2 million subscribers. But, hopefully he cleared case when he showed master track and sheet music files made and saved before guys stole his music.
same thing happened with Australian producer Sewerslvt as well. In that case, the service used for posting music on social media decided to delete all of Sewerslvt's rights. Basically stealing every song made, and then saying "its not yours anymore". Which also meant that all music on other websites started getting copyright claims.
@@witkac87 From the youtube Terms of Service:
Rights you Grant
You retain ownership rights in your Content. However, we do require you to grant certain rights to TH-cam and other users of the Service, as described below.
License to TH-cam
By providing Content to the Service, you grant to TH-cam a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable and transferable license to use that Content (including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display and perform it) in connection with the Service and TH-cam’s (and its successors' and Affiliates') business, including for the purpose of promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service.
License to Other Users
You also grant each other user of the Service a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to access your Content through the Service, and to use that Content, including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display, and perform it, only as enabled by a feature of the Service (such as video playback or embeds). For clarity, this license does not grant any rights or permissions for a user to make use of your Content independent of the Service.
Its too bad no one reads the terms before uploading content. They'd then realize Copyright is moot on youtube and claiming that people are violating your rights is a violation of the terms you agreed to.
That's so fucked up. They put a small filter on it so it's slightly different when a robot listens to it. I'm glad you were able to take care of it on your own because it would be really expensive to pursue this legally
Yep sounds like they just pitched it down a half step (which sounds like it also degraded the top-end of the compressed mp3 audio) without altering anything else.
I think it's easy money for them. Very minimal work. Cash in on ads. The guys should go to jail for fraud.
@@kebman especially since people are saying all their songs are stolen, not just the ones on this particular album.
Glad you got this settled. Sadly, this sort of thing has been happening since the first musician wrote the first song. Rock on!
This happened in my country (Costa Rica)
A guy call Mauricio Arguedas, was cought stealing an entire Album from a band from Norway (Disiplin) a bunch of photos from other bands (svartidauði and other one from Australia).
He created the logo, the "band members facebook" an email, he cheated us all. The supposed band called "BloodCraft" deleted everything. Because, one of the guys, from the bands, that i mentioned, discovered everything.
This is pretty common in Black metal. Mauricio, is such a looser!
Italian metal scene is boycotting them deleting every review and interview both on 'zine, youtube channels and webzines. Sorry for that... We are not all like this.
dont worry bud... its not Italian fault.....there sucker in every nation...peace
Pull a vikernes on them
*proceeds to pour cacao on milk*
Damn BorisT. That sucks man. I really hope they get what they deserve!!! I’m a new subscriber btw. Enjoy your content!
sucks that this happens, a reason more you deserve more recognition.
That sucks so much! That type of stuff scares me, someone stealing my work so damn horrible. Definitely right, black metal was not around in the 60s.
I can’t imagine anything more infuriating. Such a disgusting situation
Glad it was dealt with
i really like that the algorithm seems to understand pitch-shifting well enough that it works against thieves like those idiots (even though you were the target first)
That's a great remark actually. I think the algorithm is based on tonality and the overall mark of repetitive patterns.
Stealing an MP3 from TH-cam and then pitch-shifting it is about the standard of quality you would expect from a band that Photoshop's crowds and makeup on their photos.
Some wise man said once, and I'll paraphrase: I'm not angry at people who steal my work, I'm sad because they don't have their own ideas..
that isn't wise.
Think of the bands they are doing this to that don't have the following, knowledge, or technical ability to do anything about it. Crazy. Glad you were able to resolve situation in the long run
When I saw the thumbnail I thought "wait, is varg on TH-cam again?"
I had no idea that a signed band could even get away with something like this. How depressing. I’m glad it’s all resolved now, and I’m glad you revealed their name. They don’t deserve any support or credit for their fake album.
Happens all the time.
Sounds like they were 'signed' to their own label, so who's gonna call them out on it?
I'm not much into Black Metal, but subbed and liked so you can get something out of this situation.
I think their plot is not to sell albums, or even try to be a real band for that matter, but to tap into the generated revenue of the claimed material,betting that most of the victims won't battle TH-cam which is biased towards the labels.
Maybe you should check the option of releasing all of your material through services like Distrokid for example- this way noone should be able to steal it!
I'm sorry this happened to you man, so crazy. It really illustrates the fraud hearing the tracks side-by-side. This is clearly a fake band trying to get by using other peoples art. I gotta say though this is honestly a really compelling story and would make an absolutely hilarious movie screenplay. Just imagine something in vein of "This is Spinal Tap" meets "Catfish".
You've certainly handled this way better than I would have. TH-cam really needs to overhaul they're protections for creators.
At least your song is dope man !!! Didn't listened to Black metal for years i'm definitely coing back to it !! Thanks !!
Thanks man
Hopefully the other 35 bands called Necrolust had some backup band names.
What's actually insane is the fact they didn't even attempt to record it. The whole track is straight up just pitched down! At the very least remove the drums so it's less obvious in their case.
When the video started, this is what I assumed. Any reasonable thief would at least learn the song, and record it. They didn’t even have the decency to be good thieves. You can tell that music is not important to them, because clearly they don’t think it is important to anyone else. As if he wouldn’t notice that it was his work.
Well done mate, good job there. Took 2 seconds to realize they've just pitch-shifted your track... You're right that they aren't (decent) musicians and don't deserve to carry on getting away with this kind of crap!
You were too gracious. POS supreme. I don't know your music, but I will listen to more of it, for the sound and the integrity.
I remember a few years ago, another “artist” literally stole one of Burzum’s newer songs and tried to sell/promote it as their own single on ITunes, etc as their own. I don’t understand how these “musicians” have such audacity to just steal
Hey! I know that you're pissed off and I completely empathize with it but I couldn't help myself and laugh when you showed their photos 😅
Would have been strange not laugh watching those photos x)
@@borist. They are a joke of a band.
That Definitely gets your musician card pulled permanently.They are Black Metal Milli Vanilli.
Bring back the Thulean Perspective 🤔
I miss Varg
100% thought Varg had a new channel when i saw the thumbnail... smh.
"Their version" of the song has obviously been pitch shifted an octave lower. It does sound like they used your original song and repitched it with perhaps time stretching to match original tempo. You should reconstruct "their version" with the original pitch and then compare. Various time stretching algorithms will also leave traces of residual artifacts thus one would not be able to do a phase conjugation test which would otherwise create mostly silence except for mp3 comoression artifacts. It seems they thought they could get away with fooling TH-cam algorithms, however, copyright algorithms detect the core elements of the song in its prime "fingerprint" so that detection of copyrighted songs that other people perform live through various instruments and recording gear be detectable. For that is how TH-cam mistakenly connected a 1960's song to your song. The auto detection algorithms are not 100% accurate 100% of the time, but they are close. Also, copyright algorithms might use more detailed and deeper scans than that of apps that identify songs such as Shazam and Soundhound. Since the auto detection algorithms do not always correctly analyze songs, often someone is responsible for actually listening to content and reporting such claims in those cases.
This crap happens to me all the time. I got a copyright claim on MY song, by a song that was published AFTER mine was. How does that make sense???
So damn stupid
Sorry you were subject to this thievery. You are clearly very talented. Makes a person wonder how often this type of thing happens, and a real artist has to go through this process. Happy to hear they no longer have your music under their name! :)
glad that youtube suggested your channel and this video particulary ^^ your story reminds me two old situations that i lived : when it was Myspace's time ( a long long long time ago) "we" musicians used to follow each other, support and share Dates and gigs. A day a friend and me got the last Lp, at this time, of a semi pro band and i heard many of my riffs inside their Lp. The singer and me followed each other and we knew IRL too. Every time that i uploaded, naive i was, fresh stuff he was there and listened to this
Second and Last story : my trademark / name DariaelectrA, that i made in 2008, is the nerve of a "battle" since these last three days cos a person tried to be famous and get money with my trademark / name... When you're a musician money is hard to get and being able to get a lawyer is very very complicate cos your daily job can only pay the bills...
As a musician of 30 years myself, I’d be so humiliated that I had to steal someone else’s work as my own. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
First time finding one of your videos and I have to say this fucking sucks. As a musician myself I can't think of anything worse than what has happened here, especially the issues with Copyright claims. You handled this extremely well and I wish you best going forward. Love from the UK mate.
It's amazing how they tried to tell you that it was all a coincidence that "their" song sounded like yours. That was a note for note steal. Good on you for getting the copyright back. 🤘🤘
The vocalist / guitarist has the stage name Hack. Like seriously? Really living up to the name there.
Should tell Hipster Black Metal about this, that guy would have a field day with them
If they're stealing your music, they're not musicians, they're just thieves.
When I was in my preteens several years ago I admit I used to steal songs and publish them, ever since I started actually writing and recording my own music I realised just how shitty that was. I'm glad you exposed these dudes.
You're one of the few that can admit your mistakes and fix them, good to see people like yourself still exist because most people will try to lie their way through everything until they end up in legal trouble, then they try to lie some more and sound pathetic while at it.
HI from America!!!! 1st time I hear your Music!!! It totally kicks ass!!!!
To be honest when you did the comparison at first I was thinking "huh this sounds like a riff I came up with while jamming" (which is no slight at you, there just seems to be a common style of playing black metal riffs) and then when it got to the solo it was so apparently ripped off, sorry that happened friend :( you clearly work very hard on your art
That's a ballsy move on their part. Glad you got it cleared up!
Sounds kinda relatable)
I have a funny story similar to this, back in 2013 i was making EDM/Dubstep and posted it on couple very underground local websites as well as soundcloud, it didn't gain any traction obviously and i took it all down in 2014, then switched genre to metal and continued my musical path there
then about a year ago, my friend tells me that 2 of my old EMD songs are on spotify, one having 26000 plays in total, i look it up, and see that it's all over spotify reuploaded multiple times by different "labels" under various compilations
since i didn't give any permission to upload my shit to spotify and earn ad revenue from streaming it, i fill complaint note on every instance of it explaining that these are my songs presumably stolen back in 2013-2014 and that i never gave anyone permission to reupload them on spotify and etc
after some time most of the songs were taken down, but then 1 time someone emails me and saying that he supposedly have all the rights for these songs, that he bought it from someone else and that i'm "not a real person", asked me to prove that those were my songs and for some reason insisting multiple times to send him my ID scan picture))))
i sent him all the timestamps on the original project files, arrangement in-DAW screenshots, he probably just ignored it and continued to ask for my ID also stating that he have all rights on papers that he can send to spotify, i obviously asked him to show me those papers, he obviously refused)
then he asked me to take the complaint down and he'll compensate me with money, i said that i wouldn't mind compensation but i won't take the complaint down since it's my fucking songs that HE posted, he ended up with saying that i'm not a real person one more time and never messaged me again, but the songs and still down from spotify, so i guess you can say it's a happy ending)
Good job bro! 26k is a massive achievement, all yours.
My old demos are up on download sites, only 11p a track last time I looked but thats still 11p I never had.
What was the song?
@@miguelschor8725 there was 2, one called Digital Monster, another called Godzilla, my old alias was Kryotex
Ngl the algorithm sent me here and I'm not even remotely upset, you write some bangers man.
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that they stole your song, or the way how they responded with such negative attitude. I understand if they can’t play their instruments or write songs, but I still wouldn’t steal someone else’s work and publish it as my own, or even photoshop corpsepaint if I didn’t have any money to afford any. Glad that the copyright was taken down and that the band removed their social media pages, shame on them
wtf I've listened to necrolust I'm disgusted so glad u shared this experience I'm definitely not giving a listen ever again that's pathetic that they even used your music as their own and props to you because your music actually sounds impeccable 🤘so sorry this happened
Weeell, they did take the time to lower the pitch by a tone, which probably took about three clicks, so it's not like they didn't put aaaany work into it.
😂😂
I just watched this video as I have only just discovered your channel and music. Your story got myself and my gf upset, we've also been ripped off by local musicians doing the same thing but not to an extreme like yours. Support to you from North Queensland Australia 🤘🤘🤘
Bro it’s the pitch shifting down and saying “we might’ve used similar chords” for me. The way that band would’ve found out I knew they stole my song, was being subpoenaed to court over it. I’m not talking to them and listening to BS that bands like that make up to save their credibility. Nope hit them where they deserve it the first time and I promise they won’t do it again. They apparently think it’s okay to do this. Protect your art. Artists like us spend countless hours not only writing but mixing and polishing our sound. Not to mention years of self doubt wondering if you’ll ever be good enough. Just to have it stolen.. ha! Tell that to my lawyer. 🤙🏼
I'm so sorry you went through all that. I didn't even know this was a thing bands did where they steal others content like that.
Man, props to you. You have way more patience in regards to this than I ever would have. I've had some people steal photos from me for use on their website and I was way more aggressive about it, and they weren't even claiming it was their photo.
We love your videos.
You are a very talented musician.
From this video you have gained our full respects and hope justice is served in full.
Lilith
If you compose a track for a video you should always offer it for sale on services like bandcamp on the day you publish the video which helps to prove your copyright claim.
I looked up their band page on Metal-Archives and their guitarist's pseudonym is Hack. It's so apt, but I doubt the guy even knows why.
I love the disdain in your voice every time you say ".mp3". I feel that. Real musicians know it's .wav or nothing.
Also, in the comparison between your song and "their song", sounds like they just put a peak filter pass on it and called it a day.
dood you're cracking on my favorite emo band. these guys are dope breh.
You know what's sad is that most of the time, the thieves gets all the credits and fame from what they have stolen.
I've been wondering about this happening with so many people sharing their songs and riffs and stuff on social media.
I love your videos Boris, and actually necrolust is a mayhem song (stating the obvious i guess) so if their mayhem fans of course the might have stolen a mayhem song or something in the style of a mayhem song which is what they did when they stole your song
Euronymous was good with stealing money, they are just following in his footsteps.
@@ElohimJim That isnt what i was saying but okay then
You handled it a lot nicer than I would!!!
Do not blame you for being pissed. Shows what no talents they are
I hope you got it resolved. Too many people want to take advantage of others and get credit without doing any work.
Listened to whatever the most recent item is on their bandcamp and every song has a different production style, which makes me think they are probably all stolen as well
That’s scary. I don’t have composed music yet but I have my song lyrics on my web site. I’d like to turn them into music and make my own songs in the future. But I’m afraid that somebody will steal my lyrics and use them in their songs. So, I totally hear you and give you credit for bringing up this issue and exposing the thieves, scammers and posers. It’s your piece of art, your story, your feelings and your creation. Nobody should get credit using your art.
Fuck Necrolust. Hail Tryglav!! \m/
I made a logo for a local grindcore band 20 years a go here in Mexico... and last year I find out a crust band in USA using the same logo. The mexican band was called NO MÁS NO, and the band from USA is called NO MAS.
It sucks that you had to deal with this issue all because they are a bunch of poser talentless thieves that are trying to be "trve kvlt."
I'm glad your copyright strike is gone. You deserve my true support.
One time I had some people steal a bunch of my photographs I’d posted online and then they sent me a cease and desist letter claiming I’d stolen THEIR photos. Luckily every photo I’d put online was cropped and I had the originals with the metadata. They had to suck it. Lol.
I think they got inspired by System of a Down's Steal This Album...
Good investigative work!
P.S. You look like the bad guy in "The Crow".
☹️☹️☹️ seriously man why why do people steal other people music and the fact that they can’t even get away with it and the crappy edits they made
I completely understand your frustration and I'm sorry you had to go through that my friend. In a way you should be flattered that your creativity and talent for music even when just messing around is obviously way way beyond that of the vast majority.
As shitty of a state of affairs this is both in regards to their actions aswell as TH-cam being what it is with copyrights, I won't lie... those photoshopped images had me choking on my drink.
Haven't seen your content before (hell this popped up in my recommendations so there's always that, hopefully the vid's circling around a bit more prominently in the algorithm so the bullshit gets exposed to more people) but hope it all works out in the end, this kind of fuckery shouldn't stand and the track sounded good!
This is so relatable. My old band stole my work by not mentioning me as the writer of the songs. Pissed me off, and they put it all on social media, streaming and youtube.
I hope this gets resolved for you some day.
Always email yourself anything you write. Timestamps like that don't lie in cases where anyone tries to claim your work as theirs. I plan to do the same before a single piece of my material is uploaded anywhere.
@@markobighead3173 while that might help in court, you'd still need to go to court about it. That means you'd need to be paying a lawyer to represent you, and that ain't cheap. Also, you can't just sue somebody for violating your copyrighted material -- you have to prove actual damages. And that's not easy to do.
You're really better off spending the time and money upfront to have your music copyrighted through official means. That's gonna be a different process depending on which country you live in..
Man how awful does someone have to be to steal music? Just do a cover or something.
They hit a creative wall, lean on licks or tunes they've grown up on and there it is. Look at Led Zepplin, almost every single hit they had was ripped off, some were identical.
They can't play instruments.
@@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755 If you're talking about popular music standards, then it makes sense to recreate (or rather rip off) other catchy or infectious lesser-known songs. Not that it's the right thing to do, but I can see why people indulge in plagiarism in popular rock/metal spheres. But with black metal, a genre that is rather niche, it's still more respectable to write some sloppy, generic nonsense, as long as it comes from your own heart and soul. You don't even need to be very creative, just genuine.
Some years ago I busted a venue using my bands name to advertise a show we weren’t even playing. At first I was kinda flattered. Once I realized they were using our name to get people in the door and make them money, then I started to get angry. This kinda garbage is deplorable. I hope you can clear it up.
Their name is also stolen...Its a mayhem song from deathcrush
Necrobutcher and Hellhammer from Mayhem steal their names too. I think what you can steal the name, but the music must be original
black metal genre name is "stolen" from venom album
Wow such a piece of ....
I'm glad that you solve that problem in a very rightful and intelligent terms...
You're an awesome musician ⚔️⚒️
they call themselves "the true necrolust"... what a joke. love the comment on metal archives on said EP: "The song "Black Masses from the Depths" has been withdrawn from the disc due to copyrights issues between members or former members, please delete the title from the disc. thank you"
Just read that🤣
That's absolute cringe. The fact that they're in their 40s, photoshopping corpse paint and live crowds and their first release contains numerous examples of directly stolen material, it sounds like a bunch of losers who listen to black metal but have absolutely zero ambition or talent, so they thought they'd just cut their way through the process to try and profit off black metal fans in the hopes they'd be ignorant enough not to know the difference.
I've always been afraid of material thieves. That's why I don't post my music until its fully complete. Makes copyright foolproof. Always keep your original digital raw tracks before mixing. Date stamps, all that of tracking has dates which can be tracked and hold as evidence in your favor.