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Can Stoics be Christians? Vice-versa?

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  • Stoicism and Christianity are two profound traditions with rich histories and unique perspectives on life, virtue, and the human condition. While Stoicism emphasizes resilience, inner peace, and rationality, Christianity focuses on faith, redemption, and divine grace.
    Join us as we unravel this fascinating enigma, exploring historical intersections, philosophical parallels, and contemporary perspectives. Whether you're a seeker of truth, a student of philosophy, or a devout believer, prepare to expand your understanding and contemplate the age-old question: Can Stoics be Christians? And vice-versa?
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    Athanadoros, Hagesandros, and Polydoros of Rhodes, Laocoön and his Sons, early first century C.E., marble, 7'10 1/2" high (Vatican Museums; photo: Steven Zucker, CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)

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  • @comedunken6156
    @comedunken6156 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am stoic christian

  • @MrLemonsChannel
    @MrLemonsChannel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    What good is stoicism when you don't go live for God?

    • @Eleleth833
      @Eleleth833 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, you can be one with God. Hristos himself.

    • @soobright
      @soobright 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weather our destiny is from god or not philosophy or to be our defense- Seneca

    • @bepreparedforwhatscoming4975
      @bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@soobrightyou believe he was real but not Jesus??

    • @bloodmooncomix457
      @bloodmooncomix457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TRINITARIAN:👑✝️🕊️
      Nice! 🫵😉😚😎

  • @yochanantov5490
    @yochanantov5490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No they cannot be in conjunction. The Word of God contains all that is needed to live on this chaotic world because it is the Holy Spirit that leads the Christian into all Truth, Life & the Way which Jesus.

  • @GodlessCommie
    @GodlessCommie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The first stoics were devout pagans with a similar idea of virtue so christians being stoics doesn’t seem strange.

  • @kevinrombouts3027
    @kevinrombouts3027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant presentation.

    • @baldbatbrows
      @baldbatbrows  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, sir. I am still early in my own journey of learning. I am hoping this helps others frame their own studies.

  • @alexbartschi602
    @alexbartschi602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Stoic christians are called ascetics

  • @JesusTeAma412
    @JesusTeAma412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredible vid

    • @baldbatbrows
      @baldbatbrows  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Glad you liked it!

  • @josephreagan9545
    @josephreagan9545 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For Christians, salvation indeed comes from Christ and you are saved by faith, however, faith cannot exist without works.
    Works are things like love, self-discipline, and practicing other virtues.
    If one does not cultivate these things in their personal life they do not have authentic faith in Christ.
    Therefore the Stoics and the Christians both agree that a person should work on self-improvement.

    • @PunkDogCreations
      @PunkDogCreations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We should do that, but also fully rely on God to guide and sustain us.

  • @serafim985
    @serafim985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you write the essay for this video? Or was it Ai made? It was great

    • @baldbatbrows
      @baldbatbrows  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I researched and wrote it myself. Thank you.

    • @baldbatbrows
      @baldbatbrows  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I added links to some of the sources of my readings for this video, if you want to dig deeper. :)

  • @soobright
    @soobright 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seneca teachings are beyond solid…GREATEST TEACHER EVER

  • @jimlarson7022
    @jimlarson7022 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus Christ was here when the world was created. His words live on as does Jesus Christ. He is alive today and he is everywhere.

  • @tomislavostojich9748
    @tomislavostojich9748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking questions like this "Can X be Y?" is called "intersectionality" and it's super cringey.

  • @MrBrunoUSA
    @MrBrunoUSA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stoicism also influenced the developement of christian monasticism through middle platonism or so ji am told.

  • @AS-np3yq
    @AS-np3yq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny, yes it is. This is the core principle of the Catholic church.
    Thats why we have the ancient writings, they where copied by monks.

    • @yochanantov5490
      @yochanantov5490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The RCC followed right into the teachings of Agustine's belief into stoicism. This is the result of pagan doctrines developed from the start. People need to read the scriptures with an attitude of developing a "relationship" with The Savior and not with man-made religious rules & pope's dominance & tyrany.

  • @andrewbrowne5557
    @andrewbrowne5557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wisdom, courage, temperance and justice are hardly unique to Stoicism…these virtues predate both Stoicism and Christianity in space and time…

    • @ECLECTRIC_EDITS
      @ECLECTRIC_EDITS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nothing predates Christianity because the Universe was made for Christ.

    • @andrewbrowne5557
      @andrewbrowne5557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ECLECTRIC_EDITS semantics aside, I agree in principle…although, both John’s gospel and Paul’s letter to the Colossians are clear that ‘the universe’ was made BY Christ, not FOR Christ…

    • @ECLECTRIC_EDITS
      @ECLECTRIC_EDITS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewbrowne5557 Whats the difference? If the creator makes a painting who does the credit and glory of said painting for?

    • @andrewbrowne5557
      @andrewbrowne5557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ECLECTRIC_EDITS self editing is a virtue…try it sometime

    • @ECLECTRIC_EDITS
      @ECLECTRIC_EDITS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewbrowne5557 My own pride is my own death.

  • @bloodmooncomix457
    @bloodmooncomix457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TRINITARIAN:
    WELL DUH!!! 🫵😲
    The "Son of man" was the most stoic human that's ever walked the face of the earth
    👊😄😚😉😎💞✝️

    • @gsch1818
      @gsch1818 หลายเดือนก่อน

      actually yes