For those who don't know, the VA for The Doctor in this battle is the same guy that the official Doctor Who radio plays get when David Tenant isn't available. In other words, this is one of the few Death Battles to have one of the fighters voiced by a character's official voice actor
The fact that the Doctor showed up on the Screaming Sun Earth and just smiled like, "Well, that's a fascinating thing, innit?" was so a thing the Doctor would do.
I would expect them to go back the that sun and try to have a conversation with it. To be fair, thanks to the TARDIS' translator gimmick the sun probably wasn't screaming to him but rather actually speaking normally.
"Imagine... Billions of years, burning alone in the sky, whizzing through the universe with dozens of rocks whirling around you unceasingly. You'd be screaming too. He just needs a little chat with someone who can relate."
My favourite part of all this is when The Doctor walks out onto the planet with the screaming sun he smiles as its something new to him that he's never experienced. Feels so wholesome and exactly what The Doctor would do.
It's actually not too far off from the episode "The Rings of Akhaten" with Clara Oswald and Doc visiting a race that sacrificed people to the sun with a parasite, until Clara gave it her impossible leaf.
One detail I loved about this fight is how The Doctor noticed Rick's ego and used it against him in the sword fight. Rick tells him to keep quipping, and The Doctor notices that his quipping irritates him and gets under his skin, so later when they're locked against the balcony, he quips about a little shop so that Rick throws out an angry, reckless, and predictable lunge so that The Doctor could disarm him with the momentum. Mad props to the storyboarders and writers who made this detail as it's extremely in character for both characters, especially The Doctor using his enemies' personality flaws against them, which is something he often plays to his advantage. Fantastic!
I absolutely love the Doctor's line about the Weeping Angels "Blink as much as you can, they're scared of rapid movement" because of how much of a middle finger it is to Rick
My guess was it was that the doctor using his psychic powers to influence rick in a way he wasn’t prepared for. I’m just saying if Rick level cybernetics were possible secondary blink resistant eyes were an option.
That's why he only blinked a couple times before stopping and realizing what was up, but such beings can take so many potential forms that it's not exactly easy to identify one at a glance, not until it moves that is.@@Jessica18010
One thing I love about this is how thoroughly unimpressed by Rick the Doctor is. He literally just tries to fly away and ignore him at the start, he's cooly quipping through half the fight while Rick seems to get increasingly enraged. The first time he really seems frightened is after the multiple Ricks appear- and that's the point where he decides its serious enough to break out the reality-warper. Arranging for Rick's own attack to destroy him is also a very Doctor move, perhaps especially the 10th Doctor (who pretended to be a pacifist at times but was actually a big fan of karmic punishments).
I agree that the Doctor is a far more likable character, but Rick's total lack of empathy would actually be an asset here. He's already killed thousands of versions of him self, so realistically, Doc would be just another pile of ash, in seconds.
@@thedugan8r593 Nah, Rick messes around a lot during fights, he usually only kills nobodies fast...when he is up against someone challenging he gets overly complicated which is plenty of room for the Doctor to win.
@@thedugan8r593 If Rick went straight to shooting the Doctor instead of toying with him, maybe. But then the companions or the Time Lords would bring him back, and he'd erase Rick then.
@@Cybertoy00 I'm a big fan of Rick but the doctor wins. I know morning about doctor's who. But I know his screwdriver would duck Rick up Think about all the times you see Rick's skeleton. Bro he's practically a robot point the screwdriver at him and he's fall flat
I always love the line that is used as a threat against the Doctor. "Fear me I've killed hundreds of Time Lords" and his response "fear me I've killed them all"
Yep and then later on they retconned it so that Doctors actually save Galifrey but the War 9th 10th and 11th Doctor's believed they destroyed it because of Wars interactions with his future selves de-stabilizing his timeline and making the memories unretainable.... It's complicated.
I like how when the Doctor saw the screaming sun from R&M he wasn't offput by it like the Smiths were, he just thought it was neat, like he was happy that he saw something new despite his thousands years of adventuring.
In a bit of fairness, the Smiths were looking for a new planet to live on and that was one of their few options, while the Doctor was just passing by. Different circumstances. But also yes, this does speak to the Doctor's character in comparison to theirs, notably that he's excited by new discoveries so would be happy to see this new planet with a screaming sun.
@@RafaThomy2006I haven't seen those from season 11 yet, I only saw those from season 10 (Alex Mercer, Darth Vader, the chosen) and season 9 (Harley and Jinx) maybe there are some others
When the Doctor hacked and destroyed Rick's blaster, he simultaneously hacked the portal gun to cause it to create the portal he'd subsequently use to redirect the D-Mat gun to destroy Rick. The Doctor anticipated that Rick would go for the D-Mat and set him up to cause his own demise. He beat Rick through superior strategic thinking.
Okay, here's the question. How did the doctor get his portal gun to shoot at a 90 degree angle? I can accept the... defeat... and accept how the doctor won. But how did he get it to lift up? I can understand shooting down at the floor, but the wall? There's no way.
@@goodbyhello7853the Doctor specializes in that kind of ridiculous timing and technowizardry. If it’s impossible and the Doctor doesn’t like it, it won’t be impossible for very long
@@triforceofcourage100 okay dude, I can still understand how the doctor pulls off his wins and victory, but that still doesn't explain how he go the gun to lift up. The doctor still uses science. But there was push or pull from anything anywhere to do so.
@@dylanrinker6831 Because, in order of importance: 1: Tennant is the most popular Doctor, especially in America. 2: His voice is one of the less quirky ones from the show 3. The VA they had could imitate Tennant the best
@@JubioHDX Ummm ... Technically fire is "technically" a form of plasma with usually low levels of ionization. Hot enough flames are considered a pure plasma since at higher heats and densities fire gains sufficient ionization to be considered a pure plasma. The sun itself and stars create what Plasma Physics call a "Burning Plasma". So "technically" the sun "is on fire". In a sense. Well ... at least it can be argued (with semantics) to be "on fire", but not in the "traditional sense".
The creators of Doctor Who explicitly describe it as "The triumph of romance and intellect over brute force and cynicism." Rick is a formidable opponent, but in a way he *always has been* the opponent. He represents everything the Doctor has always been able to defeat. Also, Rick forgot the most important lesson from Doctor Who: the more weapons you bring to a fight against the Doctor, the more powerful he becomes.
Apologies to "actually", but far as I know, it was Craig Ferguson who said it on one of his shows, not any showrunners or the creators (Sydney Newman & the like).
@ulisescastro9298 Fun idea, but Rick wins, easy. Most of Stewie's weapons are conventional. His craziest is a ray gun. Otherwise, it's swords, crossbows, rocket launchers, and fighter jets.
@@Beast_the_smash_guy technically it's all about momentum in a sword fight. You may remember the scene of Goku fending of Trunks's sword with his finger? well, if the object is durable enough, say steel against steel, all you need to do is change your opponent's momentum
Honestly, The Doctor and Rick getting into a universe-spanning, time-warping fight just because of what amounts to a car accident & road rage is 100% accurate to what an episode of either series would be like
I like how The Doctor he never actually decided on using the time eraser, he only ever got the chance to contemplate it. He took literally every chance to avoid the conflict that he could. And in the end, Rick's undoing was entirely by his own hand. Surprisingly satisfying to see.
technically that shouldnt kill rick because that only works in 1 universe and rick is multiversal and would just come back with pheonix protocol. i actually expected rick to pop up at the end when he was talking to morty as a full wood rick. and rick has made far stronger things than the doctors gun
They somehow preserved the Doctor's morals in their Death Battle. NGL, I've wanted to see some version of this episode since ages ago, and it's turned out better than I imagined .
I think my favorite part about the fight is The Doctor’s “fighting style”. He disarms Rick, hacks & overloads his equipment, traps him in a precarious situation and tricks him into destroying himself. *HE NEVER DIRECTLY ATTACKS RICK* The dedication to The Doctor’s character is incredible.
While true, leaving him to die by weeping angel (or I guess be isolated in time from that later weeping angel episode) is the equivalent of Batman not killing Raz in Batman Begins by not saving him from the train at the end. He's still directly responsible for the situation that leads to the death. So suggesting the Doctor's hands were clean in his methods is silly.
Yeah but at least "Death by Angel" isn't so bad since you still live out your normal life, just in the past after the send you back in time.@@pacmonster066
Yeah I’m not surprised. The Doctor is terrifying if you really think about it. I’m surprised they didn’t mention Demons Run. When their friends were threatened they went back in time, told the oldest story, and that ended up being the name of the baddies super secret base. That wasn’t a coincidental turn of phrase, it was a threat across time.
In an audio story the Doctor literally threatens Lovecraftian gods. After cornering one of their servants who'd messed with his companion's mind, he gives her the order. "Tell this to your gods when they punish you. When they stretch you on the Neutron rack... I'm still here..."
To those who are unaware of just how scary and evil Daleks are Their extermination beams could be set to disintegrate on contact, but they choose to set it to just barely lethal, so you feel untold amounts of excruciating pain for a few seconds before you die
Yeah, Maximum Extermination will blow up a house, or more rightfully be the amount of power needed to destroy another Dalek, because that has been necessary before.
@swampexpertextraordinaire6896 Yeah, he saved himself and let Rick pull the trigger. I'm not saying "The Doctor didn't try to off him and Rick's death is an accident he brought upon himself", it's not the first time that the Doctor does this: he sets up his ennemy to die if they go through with their intention to kill him. Rick fired the shot that did him in.
@@stargazer-elitebut at the same time it was clear self defense and realistically he would’ve been fine even in England and the most anti self defense country on earth.
Or some of the earlier ones, 8 once made an alien fear god scream by showing it what he was afraid he might do one day. 7 would've probably talked Rick into removing himself from life too.
@@АнтонДегидонов "Nobody important? Blimey, that's amazing. You know, in 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important before" - The 11th Doctor
My favorite part about this fight is how, during the weeping angels scene, the Doctor lies to Rick smoothly and convincingly, without any stuttering or stammering, even though he's clearly terrified AND busy with the portal gun. He even has the "they're scared of rapid movement" story ready to go, either because he's prepared it ahead of time for exactly this sort of situation, or because he's just that quick-thinking. Either possibility is a strong one. Time Lords, man.
Oh yes, the Doctor is known for being very accomplished at deception. Some consider "The Doctor Lies" to be #1 point of fact for navigating interactions with him.
Considering how the Doctor formulated the entire last scene to trick and make Rick shoot HIMSELF with the reality erasure in that little time window JUST after being shot in both hearts, he prolly is that quick of a thinker
@@Arrowokeys12 Well, it's allowed, but not to be specific to their opponent (like how dealing with high technology, but gives you little advantage over a caveman vs, say, Iron Man). He knows about the Angels and how to deal with them. He may not fully know if his lying is going to work, but its what he knows to do.
What is this episode? First, it's called "vs the Doctor", without telling us who the Doctor's opponent is, then it's only about 13 minutes long, I see no rundown other than the Doctor's, and the so-called fight is just the Doctor accidentally crashing into Morty's spaceship that he made himself then him fighting thin air for the longest time. And the final breakdown didn't make any sense! I demand to know, where is the Doctor's opponent? Who is the Doctor's opponent!?
Honestly, the Doctor is so charming and disarmingly comical that I always forget he's secretly a badass limiting himself out of principle whereas Rick limits himself with ego, drugs, and alcohol.
Were it not for Rick's negative traits he probably would've had a higher chance I imagine. Then again, were Rick as cool headed as the doctor and would he plan ahead for every ideal outcome, he probably wouldn't be Rick.
@@__-tp4tmRick does plan ahead. A lot of his most insane feats required him to see a potential situation ahead of time and invent something to handle it. So when the moment randomly happens, he's ready for it, and has been ready for it. It's actually the doctor's ability to think on his feet in the moment that caused the doctor's win.
@@JTX30000 So Rick forgot that the 2 portals were linked? He forgot that the doctor had a portal on his back? If he was that prepared for it he certainly slipped.
i thought the doctor said "on god" instead of "en garde", which somehow made it funnier " maybe you will find it on the ground next to your teeth! " *grabs spoon* "on god?"
I thought that too. Often they have the characters be way more aggressive or unforgiving compared to their character to explain why they're fighting, but this was completely on point for both of them. This is exactly how it would go down lol
Yea, but both characters are supposed to be in peak condition. Their most deadly for the deathbattle. I could do a hundred page essay on why Doctor who loses this fight. He's just an older more respected character
I like the touch that 2 shots in the chest. One for each heart. Clearly Rick knows a non-zero amount about time lords, especially from the start of the battle where he quips about them.
@@deez6683 well the portals usually close on their own i dont think rick should win but anyone whose seen even a little of RaM can tell you thats not how they work. could have done it differently
@@Tankirb never has it been indthat the destination of a portal can be changed while its still open i could accept this explanation if a a new portal was opened instead of using the old one
The word when The Doctor is regenerating, "... and I don't wanna go", it's amazing how they manage to change the tone from his original "desperate plea of a dying man" into a "badass" one. This is just me geeking out to David Tennant's Doctor best moments, I love it
This is what the Doctor does every single day. Genocidal time traveling monsters and madmen are nothing new to him. Imagine if this was the tactical genius 7th Doctor, or even the War Doctor who is the most dangerous by far.
7 once basically trapped an alien elder god inside a friend's D&D game, that's how brilliant he is, dude was horrifically intelligent even by Doctor standards.
So I’ve seen people take issue with Rick allowing The Doctor to have his little speech however I actually think he’s waiting for the regeneration process to start before he deals the killing blow since for the sake of this episode he knows about timelords and as such would know about them being vulnerable while regenerating. He even says ‘hurry up’ before The Doctors big speech implying that he’s waiting for them to do something.
That could be true but even if it isn’t the thing is the doctor is also waiting too long to grab his screwdriver, the order of operations was still correct they just have him give the speech for the dramatics
As Rick knew what a Time Lord was in the opening insults this makes sense. Also maybe because of his ego, he wanted The Doctor to do something big so he could screw him over and prove his superiority like he usually does... except it doesn't work against someone just as smart if not more so, and able to calculate much faster.
Rick's final line about being remembered is actually perfect since in doctor who lore , the thing that can bring back people wiped from time are the memories and stories of them persisting
One ability you didn't mention is that the Doctor actually does have some sort of "plot armour". Extended media says he has a degree of subconcious probability warping, which occured due to his large amount of timetravelling. So basically, he's always playing the game with loaded dice.
That explanation made more sense in YuGiOh, here it just sounds like The Doctor is just really lucky. Watch, I'll do it too, the reason he has so much plot armor is because he's actually sleeping the whole time and every time he makes it back to the TARDIS it's because he's being comatose carried back to his bed. That's why he's never in any real danger because when he dies in his dream he just regenerates into a similar one.
21:01 this part best explains the ricks great disadvantage against the doctor. Rick struggles against people/beings of equal intelligence constantly, while the doctor contends with evil geniuses arguably much smarter than he is, and still often manages to come out on top (the masters intelligence rivals the doctor, notably he once imprisoned/enslaved the doctor and humanity in an alternate timeline, it took the doctor and friends a whole year to finally beat him, and then there’s Davros, the creator of the daleks and (in my opinion) the smartest being in the doctors universe, notably he created a means to destroy the entire multiverse, the literal infinity of all existence, and was incredibly close to succeeding)
It didn't take a year to beat the master, the Doctor had already set the plan in motion, it just took a year to come to fruition. For the Doctor that's like a long weekend.
Not to mention, he once had to contend with a cyber version of himself in a game of chess and won by both luck outside the game and stalling the cyber planner into probing calculations to see how the Doctor could win...
Canonically, one of the few people who has ever definitively defeated Rick is his own therapist, a woman who herself admits she's not as smart as Rick, but is still able to take him down a peg by easily picking apart his insecurities and not get killed for it.
We would have to know where in the timeline of c137 this fight takes place because prior to the events of the breakdown of the central finite curve Rick is the smartest man in every universe that has access to his universe
He used ricks portal gun to escape the weeping angels. he pick it up and knew how to use it instantly, when there where episode where morty left using to portal gun got lost and near died due to how complicated it is to use it until bp saved him due to him having years of experience with Rick
@@anthonykf99 to be fair how would you beat the doctor with any gun or gadget if he has the sonic screwdriver? You use a weapon they can’t hack like a sword.
@@anthonykf99that sword is literally taken straight out of one of the episodes of Rick and Morty (the Season 5 finale) Also if you want Rick to fight with the weapons he uses most often, he’s be using his bare fists like he does for over 50% of his fights
@@richardsesmajr892 tbf, Morty is an idiot and The Doctor is at least on par with Rick in intelligence Besides, the animation is just for something for us to watch and doesn't actually affect the results of the battle
I am not a doctor who fan but I appreciate how the Doctor looks at the gun and debates on whether he should use it or not. He knows that it would work but decided to try to find a different way. good characterization
One of my favorite bits from Doctor who is this two part episode where the Doctor and his companion wind up hiding at a school in 19th century england from this band of aliens that was stalking him. He goes to such incredible lengths as to force himself to forget his own identity, hide the tardis and wait until the aliens either died due to their short lifespans or gave up. When they finally catch up to him and force him into the open a revelation was made not just for the aliens but for the viewers; He wasn't hiding because he was scared but because he was merciful, and as a result Trapped them all in the most horrid cirecumstances forever (some of which were referenced in this episode of DB).
Another good characterisation i tell you as someone who watches the show is whenever the tardis is hurt especially with the harpoon and doctor going "what did they do for you" that's very real Tardis is a sentient machine and doctors longest companion it's not his time machine as he did stole it but in "the doctor's wife" when tardis was given a body to talk tardis said that he stole the doctor to "i wanted to see the universe so i took the only one mad enough" there's a reason he is called a mad man with a box And also calling her a clever girl when she switched console rooms. You can quite literally ship a doctor and his ship and it would make sense as the doctor care about her like it's their love
Another thing is that even when companions are around doctor keeps on talking with the tardis he is the only one who understands. One time when two companions were talking. And doctor loves this tardis specifically because it's actually an older model it's a type 40 tardis with a faulty navigation system which was an antique but he took it anyway
Letting Rick do it to himself is such a Doctor move as well. He'll hesitate to kill, but he won't stop you from doing it to yourself if you're that determined to hurt him
This was my first time watching and I thought it'd be like an explanation and details to how and why one side would win, but I did not expect that animation. Literally blew away my expectations
The Doctor doesn't inflict horrors on his enemies. But he does create the circumstances whereby his enemies inflict horrors on themselves. When you've exhausted his mercy, is when you really need to be afraid.
Exactly, the Doctor will go out of his way to get things to end peacefully, he does not enjoy killing. But if you prove you will never take that offer, and there's no other way around it, he's not going to hesitate.
The man had enough determination to spend 2 billion years punching through solid diamond. If he's running, it's not because it's the quickest route to victory. It's because it's the kindest.
I was half-expecting Morty to become the Doctor's next companion. Telling him not to be a cynic though is probably the most-helpful thing Morty's ever heard.
Wouldn't that be the biggest, "Haha, screw you. I win." from the Doctor though? He takes in Morty, teaches him how to actually be useful rather than just exploit him, and their adventures end up saving the universe multiple times. Morty just uses Rick's tech combined with Whovian guile and morals....
I love the ending. Not only the Doctor giving Rick his thoughts on his cynical view of things which is perfect for their clashing characters but also I loved the ending. Him telling Morty to not be a cynic and even praising him for the spaceship. Almost giving him the confidence boost he would need to grow in the future without Rick around.
@@chopper7867 whats more likely is that AI Rick will tell Morty how to bring him back somehow. Undoing reality erasure seems like something Rick would do
@@zeniththecreator7671 since Rick is erased from all points in time, I don't think morty can find any dna to put into the clone vault to revive him so he's just hologram for now
@@phoenixwright2420 well hologram rick did manage to become physical thanks to that one venom thingy, so maybe there is a way for him to turn real since he has rick's memories and stuff
Took me a moment to realise Rick knew Time Lord physiology, he shot the Doctor through both sides of his chest to nail both hearts and told him to hurry up with regenerating so he could kill him.
Oh yeah. He could still live with only one heart but it’s a painful experience for him till someone knocks the paused heart back into order. Pity that Rick didn’t still have that sword from earlier, otherwise he really could have finished The Doctor off.
Could this be the first fully pacifist Death Battle victory? The Doctor never once attacked Rick, only ever acted to defend himself or disarm Rick's weapons, and in the end Rick's impulsive arrogance caused him to fire the killing blow at himself. Stunning work from the animation team here.
Maybe I was just reading into it but I liked that the Dr seemed hesitant to draw the gun even in a Death Battle. traditionally he always defeats his opponents by trapping them together.
Gotta be character accurate, and the 10th Doctor never once used a weapon on people. He was about to once, but then changed his mind and fired at a machine to beat Rassilon.
It's quite genius. The Doctor could disarm Rick completely and make him completely powerless, but because this is a Death Battle, something has to be brought out to kill. As a result, that weapon would HAVE to come out of the Doctor's own arsenal.
One of the fun things regarding Rick, is that he created the central finite curve, as a way to prevent this scenario from ever happening... Not losing, but at least the confrontation from ever happening
It also is kind of thematic that the central finite curve is rick’s life’s work, but the doctor hops dimensions accidentally when literally trying to avoid doing that, so in all likelihood he breached rick’s ultimate defense accidentally and was annoyed about it. Really goes to show how far away these two characters are in power
Lol that's not why he created the central finite curve. He was looking for the Rick that killed his family. The curve was to not only narrow his search from infinite, but to also lock every other Rick from traveling outside of the curve.
@@Imkaje but if had the same effect, even if unintentional (it was also probably intended to prevent him from running into a Rick who could beat him joining the citadel and thus being on the side of Prime)
As fruitless as it is for them to argue, Iike seeing people try to say this episode is wrong just because Rick and Morty is the arguably better known IP's and people are very surface level with Doctor Who
It’s important to point out: the Doctor didn’t use the D-Mat. He merely arranged things so that when Rick tried to shoot him, he shot himself instead. Causing the episodic “bad guy” to be hoist by their own petard is rather SOP for the dear Doctor; if you ever choose to atone and mend your ways, the Doc will move Time and Space to assist you - literally - but if you persist in your ill-chosen path despite his offers otherwise, he just helps make sure your fate doesn’t take innocent bystanders with you.
I just knew it was over for Rick when they only mention the other dangerous weapons in just a black box and only explain the d mat I would laugh if they explained the moment or heart of the tardis
Remember what Davros said about the Doctor? He doesn't use a gun, he takes people and turns them into weapons. In this case, he took Rick and made him a weapon against himself. And, let's be fair, we all know that's how Rick is going to end, he's going to screw up and end himself.
@@gameuniverse5973 The tear, and who could forget a moment in the doctors life where three separate factions showed up to save him, each with mass genocidal weapons and more. The doctor was horrified by this, however any one of those weapons are a deadly threat to Rick.
I think a good equivelance noted with Rick and The Doctor is their mind and wellbeing. Rick once saw what went on in the talking cats mind as well as being in Jerry's mind for a couple of seconds and that basically convinced himself to end it all then and there. Meanwhile in another adventure, The Doctor confronted a cosmic entity that fed off fear across reality and when it invaded his mind to look for things that scared him, it was instead terrified by the things it saw by proxy. And to add insult to injury, The Doctor decided to up the ante and start thinking about things that DID genuinely scare him, which caused the entity to end it all there. So in terms of mental stability, chalk one up for the Doctor again.
Rick hasn't been mentally stable for a long time now too, and I think his reality warping tech and adventures isn't helping. Though a lot of why The Doctor is more mentally stable could be down to how a Time Lord sees time, and how a Mortal views it. The Doctor knows that there's realities out there where everything is gone and or horrifying but never stops to lament over that. At least not in a way humans would, so instead The Doctor sees the world as it could be and the possibilities that it may bring. Whereas Rick has been chasing one thing, the man who killed his wife. And turned to booze and drugs to relieve that pain, seeing only the worst and forming little to no real attachments for a long time. While Rick may be getting better as the seasons progress, he'll probably never truly be whole again.
This fight also had all the research done not even accounting for the fact that the Doctor at any point could have just convinced Rick to kill himself, gg easy
@@user-lp8im7ow8s None of that proves he has strong mental endurance. The Doctor also has multiple instances where they acknowledge they are fictional, and has beaten Gods from multiple mythologies, as well as Satan himself.
I'd like to think the Doctor hesitated to grab the gun because his ability to resist reality warping is so advanced that he can even somewhat fight the "someone must die" rule of Death Battle itself.
And he actually did he wasn’t the one to fire the killing blow that was Rick even if Rick did die that was Rick’s own fault so technically the doc didn’t follow the rules he didn’t kill Rick, Rick killed Rick
@@Oldtowns_is_tired I mean... isn't that typically how it goes in the show? When a Rick dies, it is more often than not the fault of himself or another Rick (Evil Morty notwithstanding).
i think thats pretty sick. also interesting to think about since im pretty sure the last ever death battle was confirmed to be wiz vs boomstick@@mattphillips3537
That grin at the screaming sun from a thousands of years old, multiversal being was pure "Huh... I just saw a new thing. Been about 100 years since THAT happened! Neat!"
@@akrasiathekruzmachine2341plus, this is David Tenant as the Doctor. That means it's either the 10th or 14th Doctor. In the former's case the events of the Time Lords are time locked and stasised, being completely unreachable beyond sheer luck (Dalek Kaan). In the latter's case, the Master wiped out the time lords at the end of reality and didn't pursue him after Hell Bent anyway. Notifying them of the Doctor's location does nothing for Rick.
The Doctor has been shown to take life-ending measures if it means saving people/the planet, but usually lets the foes use their own stuff against them. In 'the Dominators', the aliens try to plant a bomb that would mean the end of life on planet Dulkis (?), the Doctor steals it and places it on the Dominators' spaceship where it soon blows them up. They deserved it, but still ;) !
@@StarboundRose He chose the only move that wouldve saved himself from getting blasted, all in all in the narrative of the fight ricks death came from his own doing
That's one of my favorite things about the doctor is how he's always like a wandering child in awe of what's around him. And using tenant's doctor is really really excellent at that
I like how, after Rick gets D-matted, the starting scenario chnages. It goes from "Oi, you hit my TARDIS!" to "Aw, its just a kid on his first space voyage."
@@ahmedally6957yeah after all he immune to all time manipulation effect so even Rick been erase from all timeline and mutliuniverse The Doctor still have that old memories.
I mean, I could see Rick bouncing back from this too, which is pretty Rick. Probably an episode where Rick drags himself from non-existence. I also don't see the second fight going much better for Rick, since Timelord tech kind of beats conventional.
This is the first fight to have a 100% pascifistic winner The Doctor never once actually fought or hit Rick. Not even the D-Mat blast was from him. Hell of a nice detail
I predicted this in the announcement trailer and in so glad that’s how it happened. However the Doctor would have been more likely to be violent since (im a nerd) I’m assuming this encounter happens after the doctor has lost both rose and or Donna and is beginning to lose he’s empathy for life.
Interesting how The Doctor never lay a single hit on Rick. He only defend himself with the spoon, use his sonic screwdriver to disarm Rick's tech, and even hesitate on using the erasure gun because its not his style to kill. Rick used it on himself by accident at the end.
@@TheUnseenPathI mean, all I saw was Rick firing the gun through a portal he himself placed, out of another one, and hitting himself with it. The Doctor didn’t put that portal there, he didn’t even break the glass to get to the gun 🤣
@@TheCrazyCapMaster The Doctor hacked the portal gun with his Sonic Screwdriver, which caused it to open a portal on the wall and his back. The Doctor planned that Rick would try and kill him with the D-Mat, so he set up the portal so that he could redirect the attack back at Rick. The Doctor won despite not even firing the gun himself.
Giving both fictions their due with Sanchez stepping on the other person's lines, and the Doctor getting his brief moment of drama. Chef kiss writing and cinematography.
I was thinking Rick would take it until I was reminded that the sonic screwdriver existed. The single most broken and OP gadget in all of media, and yes that includes the gun that erases people from history.
Though in this one they actually stuck to one of the two consistent features. He only used it to hack technology, not for any bizarre one-off plot solutions.
Read my comment I posted at the top, the doc only has 2 devices but Rick has millions of devices, the sonic screw driver can only deactivate one device at a time, so Rick could easily formulate a counter attack with a new device at the same time the screwdriver is deactivating one of ricks decoy devices.
@@joshuajellybean384 Where did you get the idea that the screwdriver could only counter one device at a time? That thing has taken down *wide* ranges of equipment at once.
@@banshee46 Sonic screwdriver has to be pointed at the device to deactivate it, so that’s when the screwdriver is most vulnerable and it can be attacked or trapped from a different device that’s not in the direction the screwdriver is being pointed at
The best part of The Doctor's Victory is he didn't directly kill Rick, He just turned Rick's attack back on him. Perfectly in character for The Doctor!
The best part of the doctors victory is he didn't actually win. This is just the beginning. If you watch Rick and Morty at all you know that Rick will be back. And he will not let this go.
@@shankyu1985 thing is the doctor would just do the same. And he's WAYYY more unkillable than rick. The doctor with actual prep time and WANTING to kill someone is a terrifying concept
also the line dosint hit as hard without the heart felt meaning behind the origanal. they used it as a bad ass one liner when it was ment to be a hear wranching goodby to the fans
@@nicholasscovelle1772 The line has been iconic and parodied upon itself at this point, it is borderline a 10th Doctor catchphrase, they use it in day of the doctor and when talking about him. But also it works as a badass line if you think of it like this, he is going to regenerate into a new form but instead he sets off Rick's portal gun, he knows Rick will use the time erasure gun because he is close to it and his normal gun is broken, he has set up a plan where instead of regenerating he is going to wipe Rick from history meaning the battle never happened. That's why at the end he's talking to Morty as if nothing happened and Rick wasn't there, he said "I don't want to go" and he didn't.
I interpreted the "I don't want to go" as a dig on Rick's "nihilist know-it-all" mentality. Rick has been known to be suicidal and indifferent to his own death, and the Doctor reads him perfectly when describing him as a nihilist know-it-all. So when he says that there's one thing he never understood about all this wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey rubbish (which imo is obviously the Doctor referring to these universe-wide adventures they both have gone on), he clarifies that that one thing he never understood is that the Doctor doesn't succumb to Rick's weaknesses in spite of it all, and that he indeed "doesn't want to go" unlike Rick.
Its that moment of hesitation before touching the dmat gun that I love about the Doctor. The moment he knows what he has to do but thinks about it, that he knows that he could but shouldn't because he doesn't want to go that step.
Had to run this fight over in my head over and over before commenting.... The outcome is accurate. The biggest piece of evidence is The Central Finite Curve, which isolated all Ricks from any potential threats to their intellectual superiority, The Doctor, however, had no such set of training wheels and has a list of enemies that could and have forced him (or her as of 13) to constantly develop mentally and seems to thrive off the challenges. In the words of Evil Morty, "Rick's don't like being challenged", and so him being the smartest man in the universe was an imposed default that stagnated him.
@@socketyellow3It kind of is for both reasons. The rickest Rick designed the curve to imprison prime Rick while the other Ricks helped build it to isolate themselves from the multiverse.
Plus, Rick remained the smartest MAN in the universe. Not being human, The Doctor is something else entirely, and therefore exempt from the restriction. And then he pissed The Doctor off. Ask Colonel Runaway how smart that is
Well Rick should easily overpower the doctor, he's vastly stronger and faster than the doctor due to cybernetic implants. There's no reason the doctor should survived the close combat part long enough to pull the win when he's like a tired old man physically compared to Rick who basically superhuman across the board. Rick could punch a hole through the doctor before he knew what hit him.
@@ianyoder2537 No it sucked. This death battle removed the stats of a character to force a winner. That makes it utter trash in my view. Rick is vastly stronger and faster, making the doctor dead on arrive.
@@Lastjustice Finally found one. The fan who's arguing the outcome. Look the Doctor has faced physically superior foes all throughout his unfathomably long his life. War like aliens, human evolution gone wrong, and plenty of cyborgs. Speaking of cyborgs, his sonic screwdriver works on them. Yes Rick was more offensive minded and had the more destructive arsenal, but so has literally every enemy the doctor faced.
I just watched the fight a second time and realized The Doctor used his sonic to trigger the portal gun, anticipating Rick using the D-MAT. He already had his win condition in mind when he noticed the portal on his back.
greatest thing about the Doctor's win, is that not only did they not throw an attack other than disarming Rick of his sword, but also they didn't use any of the stupid god-mode items from the show's history like the Moment, the Hand of Omega, the Time Vortex, etc. makes this feel much more like something that'd actually happen rather than "the doctor wins because they can just use this funny artifact and win"
I mean technically the D-Mat counts but the exicution was a checkov's gun (near literally.) in that it's shown, and pays off later. Not SUDDEN HAHA YOU LOSE. Also love that the TARDiS subtily helps out by acting how it always does and not violating 'this was the time we talked' line. She's his constant companion and like hell she's going to let some dickheaded nihilist get the jump on Her doctor.
It's also perfectly fitting for his character. He's outsmarted every species that has ever threatened him or humanity, and with only 2 real exceptions, has almost always done so without being directly violent.
This has got some of the best moments in Death Battle Doctor smiling at the screaming sun The Arcade Cabinets at Blitz and Chitz But the best has to be "Well Blink as much as you can, they're scared of rapid movement."
@@kaiverse9568 Honestly raises a good point because canonically Rick knows who Doctor Who is so shouldn't he have had a bunch of foreknowledge? Or are we ignoring meta stuff now?
For those who don't know, the VA for The Doctor in this battle is the same guy that the official Doctor Who radio plays get when David Tenant isn't available. In other words, this is one of the few Death Battles to have one of the fighters voiced by a character's official voice actor
What? What!? WHAT!!?? That’s AWESOME!!!
EYYYY THIS IS AMAZING
Huh, neat
I WONDERED why he sounded only just SLIGHTLY off
That's awesome, so who were the other official voice actors on DB?
The fact that the Doctor showed up on the Screaming Sun Earth and just smiled like, "Well, that's a fascinating thing, innit?" was so a thing the Doctor would do.
I would expect them to go back the that sun and try to have a conversation with it.
To be fair, thanks to the TARDIS' translator gimmick the sun probably wasn't screaming to him but rather actually speaking normally.
He was lucky it was that planet and not planet on a cob.
His reaction made me chuckle a bit.
Not even annoyed just fascinated.
"Imagine... Billions of years, burning alone in the sky, whizzing through the universe with dozens of rocks whirling around you unceasingly. You'd be screaming too. He just needs a little chat with someone who can relate."
My favourite part of all this is when The Doctor walks out onto the planet with the screaming sun he smiles as its something new to him that he's never experienced. Feels so wholesome and exactly what The Doctor would do.
“Huh… fancy that. A sun with a mouth.”
"And it's screaming at me.....FANTASTIC!"
I wish I can spam the like 👍 button a million times cause I would do that to both of these comments.
bet he would probably also teach the sun how to speak or sing or at the least figure out why it was screaming in the first place.
It's actually not too far off from the episode "The Rings of Akhaten" with Clara Oswald and Doc visiting a race that sacrificed people to the sun with a parasite, until Clara gave it her impossible leaf.
One detail I loved about this fight is how The Doctor noticed Rick's ego and used it against him in the sword fight. Rick tells him to keep quipping, and The Doctor notices that his quipping irritates him and gets under his skin, so later when they're locked against the balcony, he quips about a little shop so that Rick throws out an angry, reckless, and predictable lunge so that The Doctor could disarm him with the momentum.
Mad props to the storyboarders and writers who made this detail as it's extremely in character for both characters, especially The Doctor using his enemies' personality flaws against them, which is something he often plays to his advantage. Fantastic!
Even 17:16 shows that Rick was clearly still thinking about all the jokes 😂
"Blink as much you can. They're scared of rapid movement." Loved that
That was just mean
indeed ! :D
Well, remember doctor's rule #1...
@@omegaj9 The Doctor always lies 😀
Rule 1: The Doctor lies.
I absolutely love the Doctor's line about the Weeping Angels "Blink as much as you can, they're scared of rapid movement" because of how much of a middle finger it is to Rick
I feel like he should’ve said the opposite to reference the “Nobody leave. Everybody stay.” Scene
@@kyleshea384tennents 1st doctor doesnt allow 2nd chances. He was already on his like 4th.
Same fr, though I feel like it wasn’t entirely realistic since Rick knows pop culture and would probably know what weeping angels are
My guess was it was that the doctor using his psychic powers to influence rick in a way he wasn’t prepared for.
I’m just saying if Rick level cybernetics were possible secondary blink resistant eyes were an option.
That's why he only blinked a couple times before stopping and realizing what was up, but such beings can take so many potential forms that it's not exactly easy to identify one at a glance, not until it moves that is.@@Jessica18010
I love how the Doctor is amused by the screaming sun. Like he just thinks its neat cause he's never seen that before.
Oh, wow. He really hasn't, he's seen sentient suns but not screaming ones.
What's really weird is that the entire time The Doctor is also trying his hardest to not be that man without rules.
He's like the Vampire King in the new season of Fionna and Cake "Huh, I've seen a new thing"
"oh I show that one to my companion sometime
honestly that's when i knew he was gonna win
"I know your type. The nihilist know-it-all." I love how the Doctor easily dismisses Rick's outlook and character.
One thing I love about this is how thoroughly unimpressed by Rick the Doctor is. He literally just tries to fly away and ignore him at the start, he's cooly quipping through half the fight while Rick seems to get increasingly enraged. The first time he really seems frightened is after the multiple Ricks appear- and that's the point where he decides its serious enough to break out the reality-warper.
Arranging for Rick's own attack to destroy him is also a very Doctor move, perhaps especially the 10th Doctor (who pretended to be a pacifist at times but was actually a big fan of karmic punishments).
I agree that the Doctor is a far more likable character, but Rick's total lack of empathy would actually be an asset here. He's already killed thousands of versions of him self, so realistically, Doc would be just another pile of ash, in seconds.
@@thedugan8r593 Nah, Rick messes around a lot during fights, he usually only kills nobodies fast...when he is up against someone challenging he gets overly complicated which is plenty of room for the Doctor to win.
@@thedugan8r593 If Rick went straight to shooting the Doctor instead of toying with him, maybe. But then the companions or the Time Lords would bring him back, and he'd erase Rick then.
@@Cybertoy00 I'm a big fan of Rick but the doctor wins.
I know morning about doctor's who. But I know his screwdriver would duck Rick up
Think about all the times you see Rick's skeleton.
Bro he's practically a robot point the screwdriver at him and he's fall flat
I always love the line that is used as a threat against the Doctor. "Fear me I've killed hundreds of Time Lords" and his response "fear me I've killed them all"
The Doctor's Wife Season 6, Episode 4
@@andrewjones5297*Series
That was a lovely line..... IT holds so much that only those who know the show can understand.
Yep and then later on they retconned it so that Doctors actually save Galifrey but the War 9th 10th and 11th Doctor's believed they destroyed it because of Wars interactions with his future selves de-stabilizing his timeline and making the memories unretainable.... It's complicated.
Ah, the eleventh, easily my favourite of the doctors
I like how when the Doctor saw the screaming sun from R&M he wasn't offput by it like the Smiths were, he just thought it was neat, like he was happy that he saw something new despite his thousands years of adventuring.
In a bit of fairness, the Smiths were looking for a new planet to live on and that was one of their few options, while the Doctor was just passing by. Different circumstances. But also yes, this does speak to the Doctor's character in comparison to theirs, notably that he's excited by new discoveries so would be happy to see this new planet with a screaming sun.
fun fact: we see some fighters from season 9 and 10 again
@@MichaellaHermosa-hn7vh DEATH BATTLE Season 11 Characters Is Next
@@RafaThomy2006I haven't seen those from season 11 yet, I only saw those from season 10 (Alex Mercer, Darth Vader, the chosen) and season 9 (Harley and Jinx) maybe there are some others
I remember the Doctor being parodied before on Milo Murphy's Law
I love how at the end, The Doctor takes the time to go back and tell Morty not to become cynical. That's a great touch.
Nah, he doesn't go back. That's just what happened in the new, Rickless timeline. The Doctor and Rick have no idea what happened.
In the Doctor Who those exposed to time travel with a Tardis will remember things erased from time
@@kainthedragoon8081yep like Amy did, she remembered Rory and then the doctor, which freed him from the time thing he was trapped in
He's actually telling the Audience this.
@@wwerules000”And you are LATE for my WEDDING!”
When the Doctor hacked and destroyed Rick's blaster, he simultaneously hacked the portal gun to cause it to create the portal he'd subsequently use to redirect the D-Mat gun to destroy Rick. The Doctor anticipated that Rick would go for the D-Mat and set him up to cause his own demise. He beat Rick through superior strategic thinking.
Okay, here's the question. How did the doctor get his portal gun to shoot at a 90 degree angle? I can accept the... defeat... and accept how the doctor won. But how did he get it to lift up? I can understand shooting down at the floor, but the wall? There's no way.
@@goodbyhello7853the Doctor specializes in that kind of ridiculous timing and technowizardry. If it’s impossible and the Doctor doesn’t like it, it won’t be impossible for very long
@@triforceofcourage100 so.. plot armor
@@AzoTheRed effectively yes but rick has pulled off the same kind of impossible tasks so it’s fair
@@triforceofcourage100 okay dude, I can still understand how the doctor pulls off his wins and victory, but that still doesn't explain how he go the gun to lift up. The doctor still uses science. But there was push or pull from anything anywhere to do so.
"Blink a lot, they fear movement"
Okay, that was a good one. Not a drop of the Doctor's wit was wasted and I loved it.
Rule #1: The Doctor lies
Portal gub
Best moment of the fight
@@Sacred_Paladin Yeah, most folks learn that one the hard way...
I'm shocked Rick bought the bait on that
Massive props to Elliott Crossley who played the Doctor here. I genuinely beloved they somehow got David Tennant to play him
But why specifically Tennant and not Smith, Capaldi (not Whittaker) mcgann, baker, Davison, Tom baker, mccoy,?
@@dylanrinker6831 Because, in order of importance:
1: Tennant is the most popular Doctor, especially in America.
2: His voice is one of the less quirky ones from the show
3. The VA they had could imitate Tennant the best
@@dylanrinker6831Likely because this is the 14th Doctor, the latest one who is also played by Tennant
Cuz he’s the best mfin doctor
mostly so he could say alons y
I like how genuinely happy and curious the Doctor is to end up on a world where the Sun is constantly screaming.
I bet he really wants to know why the sun is screaming.
@SirGlacius1 it's on fire and has a sense of self. I'd be screaming to.
@@CloudyNight2156 um acshually🤓 stars arent made of fire
@@JubioHDXyea, it WAY hotter, it would be better off being on fire lol.
@@JubioHDX Ummm ... Technically fire is "technically" a form of plasma with usually low levels of ionization. Hot enough flames are considered a pure plasma since at higher heats and densities fire gains sufficient ionization to be considered a pure plasma.
The sun itself and stars create what Plasma Physics call a "Burning Plasma". So "technically" the sun "is on fire". In a sense.
Well ... at least it can be argued (with semantics) to be "on fire", but not in the "traditional sense".
The creators of Doctor Who explicitly describe it as "The triumph of romance and intellect over brute force and cynicism."
Rick is a formidable opponent, but in a way he *always has been* the opponent. He represents everything the Doctor has always been able to defeat.
Also, Rick forgot the most important lesson from Doctor Who: the more weapons you bring to a fight against the Doctor, the more powerful he becomes.
*draws a spoon
En Garde!
K.I.S.S. Rick, keep it simple, stupid.
@@BlazingSteel A whole spoon *Gasp* "Watch out!! The Renegade Has a whole Spoon!!!"
Apologies to "actually", but far as I know, it was Craig Ferguson who said it on one of his shows, not any showrunners or the creators (Sydney Newman & the like).
"The first thing you notice about the Doctor of War is that he's unarmed, for many it's also the last."
Rick starting a Death Battle because someone had better things to do than deal with him is the Rickest Rick thing that’s ever been Ricked.
I Rick what you Ricked there.
Save for the "Rick Roll".... oh wait
Honestly I was expecting a fight of Stewie Griffin vs Rick Sanchez
Ngl I rickled!
@ulisescastro9298 Fun idea, but Rick wins, easy. Most of Stewie's weapons are conventional. His craziest is a ray gun. Otherwise, it's swords, crossbows, rocket launchers, and fighter jets.
“Morty, if you forget me than I will haunt your ass.” I love that Rick is not even mad that he died, he’s just mad at Morty for forgetting him.
It isn't real Rick, it hologram
@@DartLuke it’s not. Hologram rick is blue, this one is white, is flying and has smoking coming from its body.
@@DartLukeoh it was a Hologram, i thought that it was his Ghost or something
Try not to spoil challenge (impossible)
@@arnaldoalange3869 since he's erased from existence across time his ghost is gone so that's why the ship Rick Ai is still there
Major props to the writers for keeping the Doctor a technical pacifist by having Rick be the one who fired the killing blow himself.
I really do like how during this whole fight the Doctor never even used a weapon.
@@willwh9228idc what you say: a spoon that can hold off a sword IS a weapon
@@Beast_the_smash_guy anything a weapon in a FIGHTING HAND!
@@Beast_the_smash_guy technically it's all about momentum in a sword fight. You may remember the scene of Goku fending of Trunks's sword with his finger? well, if the object is durable enough, say steel against steel, all you need to do is change your opponent's momentum
Then tenth doctor yes is a pacisficists but there are enough doctors in his timeline that would be willing too kill
Like most episodes of Doctor Who, it all came down to "and then he used the Sonic Screwdriver".
The sonic is normally a tool he sometimes uses to help, he normally finds a way out of his situations with his intellect
Honestly, The Doctor and Rick getting into a universe-spanning, time-warping fight just because of what amounts to a car accident & road rage is 100% accurate to what an episode of either series would be like
I like how The Doctor he never actually decided on using the time eraser, he only ever got the chance to contemplate it. He took literally every chance to avoid the conflict that he could. And in the end, Rick's undoing was entirely by his own hand. Surprisingly satisfying to see.
technically that shouldnt kill rick because that only works in 1 universe and rick is multiversal and would just come back with pheonix protocol. i actually expected rick to pop up at the end when he was talking to morty as a full wood rick. and rick has made far stronger things than the doctors gun
@@quincyking010And so has the doctor lol he took out rick without even trying to kill him and that's without using his actually busted tech
@@IvanPetrov-wb1vbthat does not make any sense
It makes perfect sense. Rick dies here because he used the gun and Dr just portal it back on him.
They somehow preserved the Doctor's morals in their Death Battle. NGL, I've wanted to see some version of this episode since ages ago, and it's turned out better than I imagined .
I think my favorite part about the fight is The Doctor’s “fighting style”. He disarms Rick, hacks & overloads his equipment, traps him in a precarious situation and tricks him into destroying himself.
*HE NEVER DIRECTLY ATTACKS RICK*
The dedication to The Doctor’s character is incredible.
While true, leaving him to die by weeping angel (or I guess be isolated in time from that later weeping angel episode) is the equivalent of Batman not killing Raz in Batman Begins by not saving him from the train at the end. He's still directly responsible for the situation that leads to the death.
So suggesting the Doctor's hands were clean in his methods is silly.
Oh, geez. I just noticed that.
Yeah but at least "Death by Angel" isn't so bad since you still live out your normal life, just in the past after the send you back in time.@@pacmonster066
its better than Chibnal's run in 9 minutes when he had 5 years
@@pacmonster066 The doctors hands have not been clean for years he has committed genocide many times over..
Yeah I’m not surprised. The Doctor is terrifying if you really think about it. I’m surprised they didn’t mention Demons Run. When their friends were threatened they went back in time, told the oldest story, and that ended up being the name of the baddies super secret base. That wasn’t a coincidental turn of phrase, it was a threat across time.
In an audio story the Doctor literally threatens Lovecraftian gods. After cornering one of their servants who'd messed with his companion's mind, he gives her the order. "Tell this to your gods when they punish you. When they stretch you on the Neutron rack... I'm still here..."
@@Prince__Teclis What piece of media was this? I'd love to check it out, I love it when Doctor Who goes crazy with its scale.
@@Prince__Teclisdo you remember which audio story it was?
@@Prince__Teclis
"Fear me.*
@@Someone-dn2iv omg ty ❤️
To those who are unaware of just how scary and evil Daleks are
Their extermination beams could be set to disintegrate on contact, but they choose to set it to just barely lethal, so you feel untold amounts of excruciating pain for a few seconds before you die
Yeah, Maximum Extermination will blow up a house, or more rightfully be the amount of power needed to destroy another Dalek, because that has been necessary before.
And one of them told an especially hate fueled incarnation of the doctor, "you would make a good DALEK", that is some A- grade fucked up right there
Not to mention the Reality Bomb
EXTERMINATE!
They literally scramble your internal organs according to Rememberance of the Daleks
I can’t imagine feeling that…
Props to whoever voiced the Doctor in this episode. That Tennant voice was nearly perfect!
I've heard he voices the Tenth Doctor in the Big Finish audio dramas
Is this a joke? It was the worse thing about the episode 😂
The tennant didn’t have a voice
I forgot David Tennant was a Doctor, only really remember him as the deranged Sir Edmond Rockwell from Ark.
I checked the VA's IMDB,
He did voice the doctor in a few occasions
So its not surprising XD
Gotta love the fact that, true to form, the Doctor isn't the one who killed Rick. He just saved himself and led Rick to erase himself from time.
@swampexpertextraordinaire6896 Yeah, he saved himself and let Rick pull the trigger. I'm not saying "The Doctor didn't try to off him and Rick's death is an accident he brought upon himself", it's not the first time that the Doctor does this: he sets up his ennemy to die if they go through with their intention to kill him. Rick fired the shot that did him in.
While, this is true. It could be argued. The doctor is the one that turned around leading to the portal ejecting the projectile into Rick
@@stargazer-elite I mean, it was that or die.
Can we Get A Gwen Tennyson Vs Atom Eve ? Puhleasseeeeeeee😮💨😮💨🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@@stargazer-elitebut at the same time it was clear self defense and realistically he would’ve been fine even in England and the most anti self defense country on earth.
If it was 9th Doctor that beat down would have been way rougher. Dude nearly obliterated an unarmed Dalek.
Or some of the earlier ones, 8 once made an alien fear god scream by showing it what he was afraid he might do one day. 7 would've probably talked Rick into removing himself from life too.
7 made a baseball bat that can destroy Daleks
Eccleston doctor could be a scary fellow
In fairness Rick isn't quite as immoral as a dalek so the doctor would try harder not to hurt him.
I really liked that they brought up the personality differences. The Doctor would absolutely disgusted by Rick's attitude if they ever actually met
Is the Doctor an anti-nihilist?
@@АнтонДегидонов
"Nobody important? Blimey, that's amazing. You know, in 900 years of time and space I've never met anyone who wasn't important before"
- The 11th Doctor
@@TheSpearkan Wow, that's cool, thanks for the quote.
The Doctor is an overwhelming optimist above all else, even in his bleakest momentshe has hope@user-lb4jy4jt2r
@@TheSpearkanthat's 11 not 10 that's one of the point
Honestly, Rick ending up as a forgotten ghost is a kinder ending than most Doctor Who enemies recieve.
It a hologram
@@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442 That's even worse. It isn't even really Rick.
@@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442, yes, but who programmed it?
@@jsly621
It rick, he made a ship
@@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442, but he never existed… now.
My favorite part about this fight is how, during the weeping angels scene, the Doctor lies to Rick smoothly and convincingly, without any stuttering or stammering, even though he's clearly terrified AND busy with the portal gun. He even has the "they're scared of rapid movement" story ready to go, either because he's prepared it ahead of time for exactly this sort of situation, or because he's just that quick-thinking. Either possibility is a strong one.
Time Lords, man.
Oh yes, the Doctor is known for being very accomplished at deception. Some consider "The Doctor Lies" to be #1 point of fact for navigating interactions with him.
I mean..prep time isn't allowed in deathbattle so it's definitley the other option
Considering how the Doctor formulated the entire last scene to trick and make Rick shoot HIMSELF with the reality erasure in that little time window JUST after being shot in both hearts, he prolly is that quick of a thinker
@@Arrowokeys12 Well, it's allowed, but not to be specific to their opponent (like how dealing with high technology, but gives you little advantage over a caveman vs, say, Iron Man). He knows about the Angels and how to deal with them. He may not fully know if his lying is going to work, but its what he knows to do.
Rule 1: The Doctor lies.
What is this episode? First, it's called "vs the Doctor", without telling us who the Doctor's opponent is, then it's only about 13 minutes long, I see no rundown other than the Doctor's, and the so-called fight is just the Doctor accidentally crashing into Morty's spaceship that he made himself then him fighting thin air for the longest time. And the final breakdown didn't make any sense! I demand to know, where is the Doctor's opponent? Who is the Doctor's opponent!?
HA this is good
I wish we knew. It's definitely not Morty - he was just flying by!
The fight starting because the Doctor ignored Rick is hilarious. Also love him being nice to a very confused Morty at the end
fortunately this battle is less bloody than we thought😅
Kindness is one of The Doctor's key features.
I am frankly surprised the Doc left Morty there and never offered him the chance to be a companion. You could call it *Who's with Morty*
Saving a kid from an old cynical genius who thinks he's god, just another Monday for the Doctor.
In the end Rick's own hubris was Rick's undoing
Honestly, the Doctor is so charming and disarmingly comical that I always forget he's secretly a badass limiting himself out of principle whereas Rick limits himself with ego, drugs, and alcohol.
Were it not for Rick's negative traits he probably would've had a higher chance I imagine.
Then again, were Rick as cool headed as the doctor and would he plan ahead for every ideal outcome, he probably wouldn't be Rick.
Yeah, the doctor never really choices violence if he does it was entirely your own fault.
@@__-tp4tmRick does plan ahead. A lot of his most insane feats required him to see a potential situation ahead of time and invent something to handle it. So when the moment randomly happens, he's ready for it, and has been ready for it.
It's actually the doctor's ability to think on his feet in the moment that caused the doctor's win.
They should do Invincible VS Gohan - Son of Omniman VS Son of Goku would be a really fun matchup!
@@JTX30000 So Rick forgot that the 2 portals were linked? He forgot that the doctor had a portal on his back?
If he was that prepared for it he certainly slipped.
“Keep blinking as much as you can, rapid movement confuses them.” I laughed so damn hard!
I laughed my ass off at that
i thought the doctor said "on god" instead of "en garde", which somehow made it funnier
" maybe you will find it on the ground next to your teeth! "
*grabs spoon* "on god?"
If Rick brings an apple to the fight he just might be able to keep The Doctor away.
This may be implied that the apple makes him stronger
SPOILER: The apple is rotten, just like his show.
Wtf it took someone THIS long to make that joke 💀
Ok Rick trying that and the doctor just grabbing it and eating it would be funny
oh brother this guy stinks
Rick going on a blind rampage over a fenderbender while the Doctor just acts defensively is perfectly in character for both of them.
😂 absolutely agree
I thought that too. Often they have the characters be way more aggressive or unforgiving compared to their character to explain why they're fighting, but this was completely on point for both of them. This is exactly how it would go down lol
Yea, but both characters are supposed to be in peak condition. Their most deadly for the deathbattle.
I could do a hundred page essay on why Doctor who loses this fight. He's just an older more respected character
@@sethkunert6234wha?
@@sethkunert6234 oh so at their peak? so like when the doctor had control over the glory and could erase the concept of rick from being?
"Well blink as much as you can, they're scared of rapid movment."
Absolutely kills me.
Loser
lol
They're like Boos in Mario or the Sculpture from SCP Foundation then? It'll attack only if you don't look?
@@Werewolf914 yep, weeping angels
@@Werewolf914They're quantum locked, they can only move when they're not being observed.
After this battle, they do have something in common.
Doctor Who.
Rick who?
I like the touch that 2 shots in the chest. One for each heart. Clearly Rick knows a non-zero amount about time lords, especially from the start of the battle where he quips about them.
He remembered that but forgot the portal 💀
@@deez6683 well the portals usually close on their own i dont think rick should win but anyone whose seen even a little of RaM can tell you thats not how they work. could have done it differently
well yeah you are right, plus Rick could have won if it wasn’t for the fact he waits for people to finish their monologues
@@delinkwent7375 could be explained by the doctor hacking the portal so the one on his back is linked to the one he fired.
@@Tankirb never has it been indthat the destination of a portal can be changed while its still open i could accept this explanation if a a new portal was opened instead of using the old one
The word when The Doctor is regenerating, "... and I don't wanna go", it's amazing how they manage to change the tone from his original "desperate plea of a dying man" into a "badass" one. This is just me geeking out to David Tennant's Doctor best moments, I love it
"It's not that I'm an innocent. I've taken lives. I got worse, I got clever! Manipulated people into taking their own." --The 10th Doctor
Do you know why they call it demons run
Because
Demons run when a good man goes to war
This is what the Doctor does every single day. Genocidal time traveling monsters and madmen are nothing new to him. Imagine if this was the tactical genius 7th Doctor, or even the War Doctor who is the most dangerous by far.
7 once basically trapped an alien elder god inside a friend's D&D game, that's how brilliant he is, dude was horrifically intelligent even by Doctor standards.
So I’ve seen people take issue with Rick allowing The Doctor to have his little speech however I actually think he’s waiting for the regeneration process to start before he deals the killing blow since for the sake of this episode he knows about timelords and as such would know about them being vulnerable while regenerating. He even says ‘hurry up’ before The Doctors big speech implying that he’s waiting for them to do something.
That could be true but even if it isn’t the thing is the doctor is also waiting too long to grab his screwdriver, the order of operations was still correct they just have him give the speech for the dramatics
The doctor also has plot manipulation powers that they use to give speeches and grandstand without interruption
Rick's arrogant and probably thought he had the last laugh and is the kind of person to gloat, so he's waiting out his speech so he can finish him.
Yeah, that seems likely. And his monologuing is also a power, funnily enough.
As Rick knew what a Time Lord was in the opening insults this makes sense. Also maybe because of his ego, he wanted The Doctor to do something big so he could screw him over and prove his superiority like he usually does... except it doesn't work against someone just as smart if not more so, and able to calculate much faster.
Rick's final line about being remembered is actually perfect since in doctor who lore , the thing that can bring back people wiped from time are the memories and stories of them persisting
What a good way to open a sequel fight. Also, if Rick knows that then he is a secret Dr. Who fan.
The doctor lies.
@@mysterycupofjoe2670Rick actually referenced Doctor Who in the R&M Season 3 finale
indeed.
He literally keeps backups of their memories in his garage.
Rick Sanchez: *uses Doctor Who’s weapon to kill him*
The Doctor: *pulls an Uno Reverse card*
"You dare use my own spell against me?"
One ability you didn't mention is that the Doctor actually does have some sort of "plot armour". Extended media says he has a degree of subconcious probability warping, which occured due to his large amount of timetravelling. So basically, he's always playing the game with loaded dice.
The doctor has 4 layers of plot armor, probability manipulation, causality manipulation, higher dimensional avatar, and plot manipulation
@@Mohammedamine9.
> higher dimensional avatar
what? are you talking about timeless child or did I forgot something?
@@lerarosalene something that was mentioned in the novel a Christmas on a rational planet
That explanation made more sense in YuGiOh, here it just sounds like The Doctor is just really lucky. Watch, I'll do it too, the reason he has so much plot armor is because he's actually sleeping the whole time and every time he makes it back to the TARDIS it's because he's being comatose carried back to his bed. That's why he's never in any real danger because when he dies in his dream he just regenerates into a similar one.
So he's the main protagonist of all main protagonist@@Mohammedamine9.
21:01 this part best explains the ricks great disadvantage against the doctor. Rick struggles against people/beings of equal intelligence constantly, while the doctor contends with evil geniuses arguably much smarter than he is, and still often manages to come out on top (the masters intelligence rivals the doctor, notably he once imprisoned/enslaved the doctor and humanity in an alternate timeline, it took the doctor and friends a whole year to finally beat him, and then there’s Davros, the creator of the daleks and (in my opinion) the smartest being in the doctors universe, notably he created a means to destroy the entire multiverse, the literal infinity of all existence, and was incredibly close to succeeding)
It didn't take a year to beat the master, the Doctor had already set the plan in motion, it just took a year to come to fruition. For the Doctor that's like a long weekend.
Not to mention, he once had to contend with a cyber version of himself in a game of chess and won by both luck outside the game and stalling the cyber planner into probing calculations to see how the Doctor could win...
Canonically, one of the few people who has ever definitively defeated Rick is his own therapist, a woman who herself admits she's not as smart as Rick, but is still able to take him down a peg by easily picking apart his insecurities and not get killed for it.
We would have to know where in the timeline of c137 this fight takes place because prior to the events of the breakdown of the central finite curve Rick is the smartest man in every universe that has access to his universe
The doctor advising rick to "blink rapidly" around all the weeping angels was too damn funny!
One is a God pretending to be human. The other is a human who thinks he's a God.
The Doctor and Rick.
The Doctor never touching a weapon the entire fight and Ricks undoing being his own mindless aggression and ego is so perfect.
He used ricks portal gun to escape the weeping angels. he pick it up and knew how to use it instantly, when there where episode where morty left using to portal gun got lost and near died due to how complicated it is to use it until bp saved him due to him having years of experience with Rick
@@anthonykf99 to be fair how would you beat the doctor with any gun or gadget if he has the sonic screwdriver? You use a weapon they can’t hack like a sword.
@@anthonykf99that sword is literally taken straight out of one of the episodes of Rick and Morty (the Season 5 finale)
Also if you want Rick to fight with the weapons he uses most often, he’s be using his bare fists like he does for over 50% of his fights
@@richardsesmajr892 tbf, Morty is an idiot and The Doctor is at least on par with Rick in intelligence
Besides, the animation is just for something for us to watch and doesn't actually affect the results of the battle
@@richardsesmajr892 Portal Gun is a tool and frankly comparing the Doctors Intelligence to Mortys is a joke.
I am not a doctor who fan but I appreciate how the Doctor looks at the gun and debates on whether he should use it or not. He knows that it would work but decided to try to find a different way. good characterization
One of my favorite bits from Doctor who is this two part episode where the Doctor and his companion wind up hiding at a school in 19th century england from this band of aliens that was stalking him. He goes to such incredible lengths as to force himself to forget his own identity, hide the tardis and wait until the aliens either died due to their short lifespans or gave up.
When they finally catch up to him and force him into the open a revelation was made not just for the aliens but for the viewers; He wasn't hiding because he was scared but because he was merciful, and as a result Trapped them all in the most horrid cirecumstances forever (some of which were referenced in this episode of DB).
Another good characterisation i tell you as someone who watches the show is whenever the tardis is hurt especially with the harpoon and doctor going "what did they do for you" that's very real
Tardis is a sentient machine and doctors longest companion it's not his time machine as he did stole it but in "the doctor's wife" when tardis was given a body to talk tardis said that he stole the doctor to "i wanted to see the universe so i took the only one mad enough" there's a reason he is called a mad man with a box
And also calling her a clever girl when she switched console rooms.
You can quite literally ship a doctor and his ship and it would make sense as the doctor care about her like it's their love
Another thing is that even when companions are around doctor keeps on talking with the tardis he is the only one who understands. One time when two companions were talking.
And doctor loves this tardis specifically because it's actually an older model it's a type 40 tardis with a faulty navigation system which was an antique but he took it anyway
And in the end he found a way NOT to use it. That's what the doctor does; he finds ways when none exist.
Letting Rick do it to himself is such a Doctor move as well. He'll hesitate to kill, but he won't stop you from doing it to yourself if you're that determined to hurt him
Seeing the pure fear on the doctors face when they got to the angels is amazing. Truly his most conventionally scary foe.
Was that reference or something?
Look up "weeping angels"
Do not blink or avert your gaze. You have been warned.
@@MEMEuser420get back to writing stories lazy ass jk love your stories
@@seriousspikesam7770”well blink as much as you can. they’re scared of rapid movement.” The bamboozle the doctor did on Rick was hilarious.
This was my first time watching and I thought it'd be like an explanation and details to how and why one side would win, but I did not expect that animation. Literally blew away my expectations
damn... sometimes we forget how scary the doctor is. seeing him simply turn around and erase rick from reality is kind of terrifying.
Correction, he let Rick erase himself, everything he did, was just to give Rick one last chance, up to not firing the gun
@@joelrobinson5457 ah touché
Demons run when a good man goes to war.
The Doctor doesn't inflict horrors on his enemies. But he does create the circumstances whereby his enemies inflict horrors on themselves. When you've exhausted his mercy, is when you really need to be afraid.
"He never raised his voice, that's what made it so haunting..."
I’m sure that animation was the passion project of some very talented animator(s). I hope they get all the praise they deserve for that masterpiece
And proper payment... Never forget the payment, because praise alone can't feed you.
Very well done indeed!
Who animated this?
I don't think I'll ever stop laughing about "Swiss Army Plot Device"; the most perfect description of the Sonic Screwdriver. 😆
Doesn't 13 even call it the "Swiss Army Sonic"? When when she's showing hers off for the first time?
@@madladdie7069 i think so.
because it basically is. funny thing though is sonic energy can be used in the various ways the doctor uses it for.
The Doctor: There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us, _you blinked._
Where's that quote from?
@@Mohammedamine9. It's from an animated justice league film "crisis on two earths". It just seemed to fit.
The Doctor: We have great power. You choose to abuse it! I choose to clear up the mess you and others like you leave behind...
The Doctor doesn't want you to run from him so he'll win. He wants you to run from him so you don't die.
Exactly, the Doctor will go out of his way to get things to end peacefully, he does not enjoy killing. But if you prove you will never take that offer, and there's no other way around it, he's not going to hesitate.
The man had enough determination to spend 2 billion years punching through solid diamond. If he's running, it's not because it's the quickest route to victory. It's because it's the kindest.
@@durk5331 devils flee when a good man goes to war
jfc this is perfect
@@daddypudding9074
*4.5 billions years.
And he remembers all of it. Grief/rage at Rassilon kept him going.
I was half-expecting Morty to become the Doctor's next companion. Telling him not to be a cynic though is probably the most-helpful thing Morty's ever heard.
I had this same idea. I thought for sure he was going to offer to join him on the Tardis.
Wouldn't that be the biggest, "Haha, screw you. I win." from the Doctor though? He takes in Morty, teaches him how to actually be useful rather than just exploit him, and their adventures end up saving the universe multiple times. Morty just uses Rick's tech combined with Whovian guile and morals....
Time traveler vs dimension hopper. Ofc the time guy wins, he can win yesterday. The best the d hopper can do is win now and that can be to late.
@@tjl102 Rick can time travel, he just chooses not to.
@@MattwosRandomNonContent Because he sucks at it
I love the ending. Not only the Doctor giving Rick his thoughts on his cynical view of things which is perfect for their clashing characters but also I loved the ending. Him telling Morty to not be a cynic and even praising him for the spaceship. Almost giving him the confidence boost he would need to grow in the future without Rick around.
...except AI Rick is going to haunt him for the rest of his life
@@chopper7867 whats more likely is that AI Rick will tell Morty how to bring him back somehow.
Undoing reality erasure seems like something Rick would do
@@zeniththecreator7671 since Rick is erased from all points in time, I don't think morty can find any dna to put into the clone vault to revive him so he's just hologram for now
@@phoenixwright2420 well hologram rick did manage to become physical thanks to that one venom thingy, so maybe there is a way for him to turn real since he has rick's memories and stuff
Just sayin, that spacecruiser and morty were not that rick's originals or they wouldve been erased too.
When my dad saw the outcome he refused to believe it
I love your dad already!
Okay, how did he not like the outcome? I don't like how Rick lost the battle, but I can... somewhat.... accept it.
Because he thought there was no was no way for the doctor to win even with they explained why he won
@@ninjalord785Your dad is such a cry baby fanboy 😂
@@Obrigado_ePerdao , or maybe he's right, and you're being a fanboy here.
Took me a moment to realise Rick knew Time Lord physiology, he shot the Doctor through both sides of his chest to nail both hearts and told him to hurry up with regenerating so he could kill him.
Oh yeah. He could still live with only one heart but it’s a painful experience for him till someone knocks the paused heart back into order.
Pity that Rick didn’t still have that sword from earlier, otherwise he really could have finished The Doctor off.
Yeah it’s a good detail in what’s essentially a very one-sided fight. Given that Rick mentions dr who at one point in the show, it works.
Must not have known it that well though, IIRC one of the Doctor's hearts is a bit lower.
Rick knowing Timelords was established at the start, as he calls the dr a timelord.
And to be fair, Rick WOULD know of timelords.
Could this be the first fully pacifist Death Battle victory? The Doctor never once attacked Rick, only ever acted to defend himself or disarm Rick's weapons, and in the end Rick's impulsive arrogance caused him to fire the killing blow at himself. Stunning work from the animation team here.
Maybe I was just reading into it but I liked that the Dr seemed hesitant to draw the gun even in a Death Battle. traditionally he always defeats his opponents by trapping them together.
Gotta be character accurate, and the 10th Doctor never once used a weapon on people. He was about to once, but then changed his mind and fired at a machine to beat Rassilon.
Imagine losing to a guy who was not even attacking you at all
@@gameuniverse5973 Rick has always been self-defeating. It's always his own hubris that ends up screwing him in the end.
It's quite genius. The Doctor could disarm Rick completely and make him completely powerless, but because this is a Death Battle, something has to be brought out to kill. As a result, that weapon would HAVE to come out of the Doctor's own arsenal.
One of the fun things regarding Rick, is that he created the central finite curve, as a way to prevent this scenario from ever happening... Not losing, but at least the confrontation from ever happening
It also is kind of thematic that the central finite curve is rick’s life’s work, but the doctor hops dimensions accidentally when literally trying to avoid doing that, so in all likelihood he breached rick’s ultimate defense accidentally and was annoyed about it. Really goes to show how far away these two characters are in power
Lol that's not why he created the central finite curve. He was looking for the Rick that killed his family. The curve was to not only narrow his search from infinite, but to also lock every other Rick from traveling outside of the curve.
@@Imkaje but if had the same effect, even if unintentional (it was also probably intended to prevent him from running into a Rick who could beat him joining the citadel and thus being on the side of Prime)
@@Imkaje the rest of the ricks that helped him to create it did make it with the intention of keeping themselves safe however
There's only one way the doctor wins but there's infinite ways rick wins. Why does the dub go to the doctor?
It should be a monthly tradition to check up on the comments.
The Doctor solo's btw, you don't want to even know how busted he is
Fax
It's crazy how there are still people arguing for rick
As fruitless as it is for them to argue, Iike seeing people try to say this episode is wrong just because Rick and Morty is the arguably better known IP's and people are very surface level with Doctor Who
It’s important to point out: the Doctor didn’t use the D-Mat. He merely arranged things so that when Rick tried to shoot him, he shot himself instead. Causing the episodic “bad guy” to be hoist by their own petard is rather SOP for the dear Doctor; if you ever choose to atone and mend your ways, the Doc will move Time and Space to assist you - literally - but if you persist in your ill-chosen path despite his offers otherwise, he just helps make sure your fate doesn’t take innocent bystanders with you.
Saving an innocent kid from a mad old genius with a god complex. Just another Monday for the Doctor.
I just knew it was over for Rick when they only mention the other dangerous weapons in just a black box and only explain the d mat I would laugh if they explained the moment or heart of the tardis
He did use the D-Mat just not in the conventional sense it was a strategy he manipulated.
Remember what Davros said about the Doctor? He doesn't use a gun, he takes people and turns them into weapons. In this case, he took Rick and made him a weapon against himself. And, let's be fair, we all know that's how Rick is going to end, he's going to screw up and end himself.
@@gameuniverse5973 The tear, and who could forget a moment in the doctors life where three separate factions showed up to save him, each with mass genocidal weapons and more. The doctor was horrified by this, however any one of those weapons are a deadly threat to Rick.
I think a good equivelance noted with Rick and The Doctor is their mind and wellbeing.
Rick once saw what went on in the talking cats mind as well as being in Jerry's mind for a couple of seconds and that basically convinced himself to end it all then and there.
Meanwhile in another adventure, The Doctor confronted a cosmic entity that fed off fear across reality and when it invaded his mind to look for things that scared him, it was instead terrified by the things it saw by proxy. And to add insult to injury, The Doctor decided to up the ante and start thinking about things that DID genuinely scare him, which caused the entity to end it all there.
So in terms of mental stability, chalk one up for the Doctor again.
Rick hasn't been mentally stable for a long time now too, and I think his reality warping tech and adventures isn't helping.
Though a lot of why The Doctor is more mentally stable could be down to how a Time Lord sees time, and how a Mortal views it.
The Doctor knows that there's realities out there where everything is gone and or horrifying but never stops to lament over that. At least not in a way humans would, so instead The Doctor sees the world as it could be and the possibilities that it may bring.
Whereas Rick has been chasing one thing, the man who killed his wife. And turned to booze and drugs to relieve that pain, seeing only the worst and forming little to no real attachments for a long time. While Rick may be getting better as the seasons progress, he'll probably never truly be whole again.
Rick figured out he is Fiction on the fly and got out to fight Jesus for the hell of it .
I think it's enough .
When was this, and what was the name of the Cosmic being. I initially thought it was Akhaten, but he didn't feed of off fear.
This fight also had all the research done not even accounting for the fact that the Doctor at any point could have just convinced Rick to kill himself, gg easy
@@user-lp8im7ow8s None of that proves he has strong mental endurance. The Doctor also has multiple instances where they acknowledge they are fictional, and has beaten Gods from multiple mythologies, as well as Satan himself.
I'd like to think the Doctor hesitated to grab the gun because his ability to resist reality warping is so advanced that he can even somewhat fight the "someone must die" rule of Death Battle itself.
And he actually did he wasn’t the one to fire the killing blow that was Rick even if Rick did die that was Rick’s own fault so technically the doc didn’t follow the rules he didn’t kill Rick, Rick killed Rick
@@Oldtowns_is_tired I mean... isn't that typically how it goes in the show? When a Rick dies, it is more often than not the fault of himself or another Rick (Evil Morty notwithstanding).
They have been becoming more self aware lately.
i think thats pretty sick. also interesting to think about since im pretty sure the last ever death battle was confirmed to be wiz vs boomstick@@mattphillips3537
Before I watch. The Doctor wins. He would always win, Rick never stood a chance.
That grin at the screaming sun from a thousands of years old, multiversal being was pure "Huh... I just saw a new thing. Been about 100 years since THAT happened! Neat!"
Probably thinking "Must show that to someone later."
@@Prince__Teclis or "Has anyone asked him why he's screaming? Maybe he needs help. Either way, it's fantastic! Let's go learn about him!"
@@Bogeymanta If this was canon imagine the Doctor stopping by this universe every now and then to have a conversation with a sun.
@@KianaK0423 They absolutely would. Just to check in on the guy. The Doctor is nice like that.
This is literally why the doctor loses. He wins because the screwdriver impresses dumb and nostalgic people. Which are you?
Everybody seems to think that Rick bringing an apple would defeat the doctor, but everybody is forgetting his real weakness, Pears
who am i?
They're too mushy and make your chin wet!
They also failed to mention Rick's greatest weakness, Pirates.
@jonathanjuarez5544 idk why but that's so funny to me when the president brought out the pirates Rick just dipped 😭
@@therdrfanboi1899”AHH RUN MORTY THAT PART WAS TRUE!”
Really like the smaller details. Like since Rick mentions knowing the Time Lords, it’s nice to see he knows to shoot both hearts.
Rick would have contacted the time lords to notify them of the doctors location, game over.
That and The Doctor smiling at the screaming sun, just a completely different approach to the weirder parts of the universe compared to Rick.
@@PSYCKYO Rick hates authority so not a likely course of action for his character.
@@akrasiathekruzmachine2341 Ooooh, 10/10 counterpoint.
@@akrasiathekruzmachine2341plus, this is David Tenant as the Doctor. That means it's either the 10th or 14th Doctor. In the former's case the events of the Time Lords are time locked and stasised, being completely unreachable beyond sheer luck (Dalek Kaan). In the latter's case, the Master wiped out the time lords at the end of reality and didn't pursue him after Hell Bent anyway. Notifying them of the Doctor's location does nothing for Rick.
A smart human playing god vs A smart god playing human
I love how throughout the whole fight the doctor never used a weapon once staying true to his morals and just doing what the doctor does
The Doctor has been shown to take life-ending measures if it means saving people/the planet, but usually lets the foes use their own stuff against them. In 'the Dominators', the aliens try to plant a bomb that would mean the end of life on planet Dulkis (?), the Doctor steals it and places it on the Dominators' spaceship where it soon blows them up.
They deserved it, but still ;) !
Well he did kill an infinite amount of Ricks
@@StarboundRoserick did that
@@drypasta he clearly had time to move, and chose the only move that would kill
@@StarboundRose He chose the only move that wouldve saved himself from getting blasted, all in all in the narrative of the fight ricks death came from his own doing
A really subtle detail I liked is the Doctor actually loving the screaming sun. They just want to see everything.
That's one of my favorite things about the doctor is how he's always like a wandering child in awe of what's around him. And using tenant's doctor is really really excellent at that
Hilarious that The Doctor was able to trick Rick into blinking at the Weeping Angels.
And Rick was like "wait are these th-they are, aren't they."
The Doctor using the portal gun to redirect a gunshot is exactly what he'd do
I like how, after Rick gets D-matted, the starting scenario chnages. It goes from "Oi, you hit my TARDIS!" to "Aw, its just a kid on his first space voyage."
The doctor knows what he did, he’s just playing along
If I was doing that part of it, I'd have the Doctor offer Morty to be his companion... And leaving Ghost/Hologram Rick all alone.
@@utubrGamingthe hologram is implanted in morty's brain. It will just follow him forever.
@@ahmedally6957yeah after all he immune to all time manipulation effect so even Rick been erase from all timeline and mutliuniverse The Doctor still have that old memories.
I mean, I could see Rick bouncing back from this too, which is pretty Rick. Probably an episode where Rick drags himself from non-existence.
I also don't see the second fight going much better for Rick, since Timelord tech kind of beats conventional.
This is the first fight to have a 100% pascifistic winner
The Doctor never once actually fought or hit Rick. Not even the D-Mat blast was from him. Hell of a nice detail
Yeah, the Doctor (usually) won't kill someone himself, but if they get themselves killed while attacking him, ggs.
I predicted this in the announcement trailer and in so glad that’s how it happened. However the Doctor would have been more likely to be violent since (im a nerd) I’m assuming this encounter happens after the doctor has lost both rose and or Donna and is beginning to lose he’s empathy for life.
Interesting how The Doctor never lay a single hit on Rick. He only defend himself with the spoon, use his sonic screwdriver to disarm Rick's tech, and even hesitate on using the erasure gun because its not his style to kill. Rick used it on himself by accident at the end.
Well no the Dr faked him out and used the gun on rick in a different way.
@@TheUnseenPathI mean, all I saw was Rick firing the gun through a portal he himself placed, out of another one, and hitting himself with it. The Doctor didn’t put that portal there, he didn’t even break the glass to get to the gun 🤣
@@TheCrazyCapMaster The Doctor hacked the portal gun with his Sonic Screwdriver, which caused it to open a portal on the wall and his back.
The Doctor planned that Rick would try and kill him with the D-Mat, so he set up the portal so that he could redirect the attack back at Rick.
The Doctor won despite not even firing the gun himself.
@@HB-fq9nn That's exactly what he does in the show, too. If you have violence in your heart, and you don't relent, he'll let you end yourself.
this video is literally blatantly incorrect
Giving both fictions their due with Sanchez stepping on the other person's lines, and the Doctor getting his brief moment of drama. Chef kiss writing and cinematography.
I liked that they kept the Doctor to his 'ideal' of letting the 'bad guy' destory themselves
It’s like the ol’ classic Tolkien logic; no matter how powerful you are, no matter how godly you appear to be, evil always destroys itself.
I was thinking Rick would take it until I was reminded that the sonic screwdriver existed. The single most broken and OP gadget in all of media, and yes that includes the gun that erases people from history.
Though in this one they actually stuck to one of the two consistent features. He only used it to hack technology, not for any bizarre one-off plot solutions.
Read my comment I posted at the top, the doc only has 2 devices but Rick has millions of devices, the sonic screw driver can only deactivate one device at a time, so Rick could easily formulate a counter attack with a new device at the same time the screwdriver is deactivating one of ricks decoy devices.
@@joshuajellybean384 Where did you get the idea that the screwdriver could only counter one device at a time? That thing has taken down *wide* ranges of equipment at once.
I would say the omnitrix is more op
@@banshee46 Sonic screwdriver has to be pointed at the device to deactivate it, so that’s when the screwdriver is most vulnerable and it can be attacked or trapped from a different device that’s not in the direction the screwdriver is being pointed at
The best part of The Doctor's Victory is he didn't directly kill Rick, He just turned Rick's attack back on him. Perfectly in character for The Doctor!
The best part of the doctors victory is he didn't actually win. This is just the beginning. If you watch Rick and Morty at all you know that Rick will be back. And he will not let this go.
@@shankyu1985 thing is the doctor would just do the same. And he's WAYYY more unkillable than rick. The doctor with actual prep time and WANTING to kill someone is a terrifying concept
@@FranTheNerd not a fan of Dr. Who but even I know all the Ricks in canon are nothing to a Doctor who has an inkling of wanting to win.
Bro nobody’s mention that even ONCE 100 point for originality 😂
His kindess means he really never kills people. Also he is extremely unlikely to use a de-mat gun on someone
as a person who has recently been watching doctor who, my perspective has changed completely.
What do you mean?
As iconic as "I don't want to go" is, I think it might've been more badass to put a spin on it and have him say "I'm not going anywhere"
also the line dosint hit as hard without the heart felt meaning behind the origanal. they used it as a bad ass one liner when it was ment to be a hear wranching goodby to the fans
@@nicholasscovelle1772 The line has been iconic and parodied upon itself at this point, it is borderline a 10th Doctor catchphrase, they use it in day of the doctor and when talking about him.
But also it works as a badass line if you think of it like this, he is going to regenerate into a new form but instead he sets off Rick's portal gun, he knows Rick will use the time erasure gun because he is close to it and his normal gun is broken, he has set up a plan where instead of regenerating he is going to wipe Rick from history meaning the battle never happened. That's why at the end he's talking to Morty as if nothing happened and Rick wasn't there, he said "I don't want to go" and he didn't.
@@nicholasscovelle1772 _heart wrenching goodbye_
I interpreted the "I don't want to go" as a dig on Rick's "nihilist know-it-all" mentality. Rick has been known to be suicidal and indifferent to his own death, and the Doctor reads him perfectly when describing him as a nihilist know-it-all. So when he says that there's one thing he never understood about all this wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey rubbish (which imo is obviously the Doctor referring to these universe-wide adventures they both have gone on), he clarifies that that one thing he never understood is that the Doctor doesn't succumb to Rick's weaknesses in spite of it all, and that he indeed "doesn't want to go" unlike Rick.
Its that moment of hesitation before touching the dmat gun that I love about the Doctor. The moment he knows what he has to do but thinks about it, that he knows that he could but shouldn't because he doesn't want to go that step.
Ricks lucky he didn't face the fourth doctor he would have rewired the portal gun to only go to cobb world
Nah, Rick should be considered lucky for not facing the seventh Doctor. He could probably literally talk Rick into removing himself from life.
Had to run this fight over in my head over and over before commenting.... The outcome is accurate. The biggest piece of evidence is The Central Finite Curve, which isolated all Ricks from any potential threats to their intellectual superiority, The Doctor, however, had no such set of training wheels and has a list of enemies that could and have forced him (or her as of 13) to constantly develop mentally and seems to thrive off the challenges. In the words of Evil Morty, "Rick's don't like being challenged", and so him being the smartest man in the universe was an imposed default that stagnated him.
The finite curve was there anyways.
The finite curve isn’t there to protect Rick…… it’s to contain rick prime
@@socketyellow3It kind of is for both reasons.
The rickest Rick designed the curve to imprison prime Rick while the other Ricks helped build it to isolate themselves from the multiverse.
Plus, Rick remained the smartest MAN in the universe. Not being human, The Doctor is something else entirely, and therefore exempt from the restriction. And then he pissed The Doctor off. Ask Colonel Runaway how smart that is
I love how the battle of super geniuses ended with one outsmarting the other instead of just overpowering them.
Quite the unique way to win a fight in a DEATH BATTLE.
It really is more satisfying that way.
In my opinion at least.
Well Rick should easily overpower the doctor, he's vastly stronger and faster than the doctor due to cybernetic implants. There's no reason the doctor should survived the close combat part long enough to pull the win when he's like a tired old man physically compared to Rick who basically superhuman across the board. Rick could punch a hole through the doctor before he knew what hit him.
@@ianyoder2537 No it sucked. This death battle removed the stats of a character to force a winner. That makes it utter trash in my view. Rick is vastly stronger and faster, making the doctor dead on arrive.
@@Lastjustice Finally found one. The fan who's arguing the outcome.
Look the Doctor has faced physically superior foes all throughout his unfathomably long his life. War like aliens, human evolution gone wrong, and plenty of cyborgs.
Speaking of cyborgs, his sonic screwdriver works on them.
Yes Rick was more offensive minded and had the more destructive arsenal, but so has literally every enemy the doctor faced.
The Doctor telling Rick that the trick to beating Weeping Angels is to blink as much as possible before dipping was 10/10 trolling.
I see what you did there.
Perfect addition to this fight.
12 other Doctors turn up and start brawling with the Ricks.
I was kinda hoping we saw a different Doctor when he regenerated. Everyone love 10th Doctor but give the other versions some screen time.
I just watched the fight a second time and realized The Doctor used his sonic to trigger the portal gun, anticipating Rick using the D-MAT. He already had his win condition in mind when he noticed the portal on his back.
Still giving him the choice to fire it, very Doctor
Exactly. The Doctor is almost always several steps ahead of whoever he's fighting. His "Allons-y!" was him setting off his plan, with panache.
Yes! that's exactly how the Doctor always wins
greatest thing about the Doctor's win, is that not only did they not throw an attack other than disarming Rick of his sword, but also they didn't use any of the stupid god-mode items from the show's history like the Moment, the Hand of Omega, the Time Vortex, etc. makes this feel much more like something that'd actually happen rather than "the doctor wins because they can just use this funny artifact and win"
I mean technically the D-Mat counts but the exicution was a checkov's gun (near literally.) in that it's shown, and pays off later. Not SUDDEN HAHA YOU LOSE.
Also love that the TARDiS subtily helps out by acting how it always does and not violating 'this was the time we talked' line.
She's his constant companion and like hell she's going to let some dickheaded nihilist get the jump on Her doctor.
Whoever they got to voice the Doctor absolutely crushed it, like WOW. I almost thought that WAS Tennant for a second there
When I heard him in the preview, I thought he sounded off. But he quickly won me over as I heard him more and more through the fight.
Yeah but Ricks was SO WEIRD to me. It sounded fine at the start but got so weird by the end.
he's an official Tennant impersonator who actually voiced the Doctor in an official webisode series called Lockdown
Total missed opportunity to have Rick punch The Doctor and have him say *“You knocked out my teeth!.”*
The fact that The Doctor didn't shoot the Reality Erasure, but Rick did, it's cosmically funny.
It's also perfectly fitting for his character. He's outsmarted every species that has ever threatened him or humanity, and with only 2 real exceptions, has almost always done so without being directly violent.
It’s very Doctor Who in the same way that the whole situation starting over a cosmic rear ending is very Rick and Morty
@@thebananas6483What were the two real exceptions?
@@8bitdiedieI assume Rick Prime and Evil Morty
This has got some of the best moments in Death Battle
Doctor smiling at the screaming sun
The Arcade Cabinets at Blitz and Chitz
But the best has to be
"Well Blink as much as you can, they're scared of rapid movement."
Rule #1 of traveling with the Doctor: The Doctor Lies. A lot.
Love how Rick is aware that vampires and other wierd creature's are real but doesn't know what a weeping angel is
@@kaiverse9568 Honestly raises a good point because canonically Rick knows who Doctor Who is so shouldn't he have had a bunch of foreknowledge? Or are we ignoring meta stuff now?
@@spyrofan9681Probably forgot after a good few swigs of his flask.