Good on ya NCB - you'll be having a blast with it while the bogans are still arguing... here in CAN farmer spec, with the top diesel engine and just the options that improve off road, is about $CDN 75k, thats the 110. Guess you are higher as Oz taxes are more crippling....
Did you find the options a bit over priced though? I look at some of the prices and They either hid a nugget of gold in every option or they're fleecing their customers compared to what you can get in the aftermarket.
I found this the most useful of the launch advert "reviews" to date. Thank you. Yes, I am looking forward to a competitive review against Jeep and Mercedes. I drove the Defender at the release event in California and found no significant surprises or disappointments, and confirmed corrections to the few, critical 4x4 gaps in my high-mileage D4. I am looking forward to receiving the P300 Defender 110 S, with Farmer off-road specs, soon. It will work and see much off-road use.
Dreadnought9T when I checked Land Rover was last in reliability for 2019! That hasn't stopped me from having a Range Rover. At least for now while it is still under warranty.
@@gc2234 JD power is run by the Autobrands...don't trusty a word they say. Everyone and his mom has a JD power award for something no matter what garbage they make.
and how many ppl bitched about Discovery 2's & 3's, RR L322 and Defender Td5/TDCi having COMPLICATED electrics? Their f*cking stone age compared to this new fangled p.o.s
Thank you for the excellent review. Realize this was a driving/acquaint but would have liked to see what the rear seat space was like. Much appreciated.
I dont understand many peple critisize defender using all round independet suspension without solid axle and ladder frame.Just lool back hummer h1 and lambo lm002,both of them using independent suspension but have incredible off road capabilty.I trust new defender has good off road capability compare to other brands
Sounds like a pretty soft 4x4. It's definitely in the premium market now; nobody brings these off-road anymore. Air springs in the desert, well ain't that confidence inspiring.
@@peanuts2105 Until you have to fix one out of warranty. If you plan on keeping one long term don't get the airride unless you mechanically incllind. Speaking from experience.
Apparently the Defender will still operate even with a failure of the gizmos. JLR doesn't want anyone getting stuck away from civilization due to an electronic breakdown
This is one of the better reviews. I had a Defender 110 heritage edition and am a bit biased but I also have some concerns about the new Defender. I drive a Land cruiser 200 at the moment. From my point of view this review was not a commercial and also gave insight in the weaker points of the car. I was especially disappointed by the lack of flex and but against that I found that there are a ton of design elements that do the old defender absolutely justice. I don't see though how the new defender is almost at the same price point as a Toyota land cruiser. I feel it should be more affordable.
Overall seems like a decent and more importantly honest review. Appreciated. Apart from infotainment part maybe. It just doesn’t look responsive at all from this presentation.
I was told that because this new Defender has 85 ECU's(?) should one needed to call for an emergency vehicle to pick it up most will not touch the Defender. Do you know why that is?
I too was privileged to spend 2 days driving the pre-production versions at Land Rovers’ Eastnor Castle visitor experience centre. WOW 🤩 their refined prowess and unflappable competence quite literally blew our socks, gloves, hats and everything else off. This car is the real McCoy, it is a genuine game-changer ✊
@Prakrit Biswas Nah. IS makes a vehicle more livable for long trips. I think they designed this as an overlander not a Rock crawler. That being said leaving the back as solid rear axle would have been nice.
They're targeting Jeep. You know how expensive a Rbicon Jeep or Gladitor is? Its giong to be right up there with them I think. Better bring a big check. lol
This car doesn't make a lot of sense, what's the difference with the discovery. Its almost similar in price and not much more rugged or flexible for work. Unlike what matt says I think they should have made a direct competitor to the Wrangler, landcruiser and the double cabin pick ups.
Agree with James Harris, lots of Jeep owners love their off-road capability but hate the driving experience. This looks to meet 90% of what Jeep owners do with their vehicles, while being much nicer on road, perhaps even more fun and nimble after watching a few of the reviews out today. It will sell well.
This Defender costs the same as a new 4x4 specified Discovery, but significantly improves the 4x4 faults of the recent Discovery models -- namely small tire diameter , too large rims and non-availability of off-road tires (at least in North America). It also has a flat torque curve even in Petrol version (P300) -- And electronic 4x4 is better. (The P400 is necessary for L.A.freeways -- we'll leave that one for them.)
To me this is more of a modern version of the original Range Rover and I think it looks superb, hope it sells well, although I don't understand all this 400hp malarkey, we don't need 400hp for off road driving. Unless the Jeep Wrangler is highly modified its just a toy. Its apity there's not a more basic LR Defender type vehicle for the farmers and utilities.
Allan McDigger - they have always said a utility / commercial version is coming, might be the best base for modding. Not sure if farmers will ever come back to this, they love their pickups.
Why didnt JLR put the 225kW/700Nm 3.0 turbo diesel from the Range Rover/Ranger Rover Sport? I feel it would have been a more appropriate engine for this vehicle over the 400bhp V6 petrol.
@@creepingedge5941 your probably right plus at the price they charging for them I think unfortunately your gonna see alot more in cities and suburbs than eg in the Australian out back. A top spec in Australia is AUD $150k before you add any packs or options. I could easily see this car costing closer to $170k-$180k.
It’s a great review, you don’t just show the nice things but also what you don’t like. Journalists and youtuber tend nowdays to hype and promote the cars rather that make a proper pro/cons review. Well done!
From the dash screen, t looks like he is using 2 differential locks. The center and one on the back. Usually Land Rovers are sold standard with only the center. I wonder how capable it would be with just the center lock. Or are all the new defenders sold standard with a back differential lock now.
Strange place for JLR to be... most Discovery or Range Rover owners would never dream of taking their vehicles into extreme situations. They are just too expensive and luxurious. This seems like more of the same...
Not really. Lots of JLR cars are used to pull horse boxes and boats. My own RR has towed a horse box for about half of its 110,000 miles. For many people they are workhorses.
don't think so, I think that's the petrol model, though there's two different power options with the diesels. 190 240 I might be wrong with them figures mind, that's just a rough guess.
If it isn't a body on frame vehicle also knows as ladder frame it isn't a true off-roader. Simple. It is just a crossover that can do mild offroad a Landcruiser would easily spank this offroad or even a Nissan Armada/Patrol
It’s a very nice vehicle, but ultimately not as tough or versatile as the original Defender. But that was a bare bones, primitive if lovable vehicle, that couldn’t be repeated in our day and age.
I think they've really missed a trick not making it more of a throwback to the old defender. If they did what VW did with the Beetle reissue, vis-a-vis the retro styling approach, I think they would shift more units. The Mk1 Defender is a _classic_ design (in the tru sense), after all.
If true, the shame of this is that only the remaining 5% are likely to be specified with the locking rear-differential, 18 inch wheels and most advanced 4x4 electronics. So, buying a used one in five years will be like finding a locking rear differential D4 (LR4) now -- virtually impossible.
so the elephant in the room is....with all these electronics could I drive through a river without the electrics malfunctioning ? Most old defender enthusiasts will probably wait for the commercial versions which will be a basc specification and be mass customisable. Have you seen the pick up versions? What will the overland Yeti version look like ? will it be orange ?
they should add the springs (coils)for all 4 wheels in case of air suspension fails the springs (coils) could hold the car. this is a big mistake. because almost all air springs fail quite soon except the lexus and toyota.
Love your review, I watch the other reviews of this trip from people like Topgear and you come off as geniuin and knowing what the hell you're talking about. Compared to the others you're talking about options we care about instead of guys complaining about the handling at high speeds (comparing to sports cars😪) or how great the trip was (oooh look a giraff!) or that "they don't get offroading". Bleh. Also your totally right about the air ride. My Dad's Ram truck with air ride has left him stranded a couple of times. Unless you know how to fix one and carry some spare parts the air ride Defenders don't belong on a long off road trip IMO.....unless your near somewehere to get it towed for warranty work. 😅 Honestly Landrover made changes fine. But nobodies going to take it seriously unless they bring reliability back to the brand with this vehicle. Maybe the old Defender wasn't reliable to some but it was easy to fix. With all the electronics on this it better be at least as reliable as a Jeep cause it ain't giong to be easy to fix. Nevermind what the Toyota snobs think.
I think your long term Land Cruiser test car is better than the new Defender...The Prado 3 doors is quite unstoppable and really reliable. I'd choose that over both the new and old Defender every day. And for those looking at the numbers: there are different ways to measure ground clearance and off road angles...
I remember like it were yesterday ppl moaning on when Discovery 2 was 'new' and having really 'complicated' electronics, they had ONE ECU as did the Defender Td5 and TDCi ,not 85 like this latest bag of sh*t - err sorry ''bag of tricks''.
Performs well on camera , but it’s unproven...I’m disappointed it doesn’t have a chassis and yet it’s not light weight....life cycle is usually shorter on vehicles with out a chassis in heavy duty vehicles. I think this leans more toward SUV than 4wd truck
1 computer/ECU was more than enough. Td5/TDCi are 'ancient' now, yes they needed a laptop to fix (sometimes), but were still spanner friendly most of the time.
rolling over sand and smooth stones isnt exactly a difficult task. can the new defender make it across the rubicon trail? i dont think land rover wants anyone to try that, so we will never know the answer until someone who has alot of money to waste, tries it
People bought the defender, out of utility or passion/desire at a certain price point. This one checks none of those boxes. Sure people will cross shop this with other SUVs, but it has become just another SUV. For everyday use there are better options. With taxes becoming a factor SUVs with decent real electric range like the x5 45e will be where the market is heading... I can't believe they sacrificed their niche, I hope it works out for them because overall they are a cool brand
You have to rather compare the new Defender to the Jeep Cherokee than Wrangler. BTW the 3.0 liter is a straight 6 and not V6....08:36. Providing us with your BS opinion about the Double Cab pickup market does not make it fact. The DEFENDER 130 was still in production until 2016 and Jeep Wrangler GLADIATOR sales in the US are doing well so why not a 130 DC HCPU to absorb nearly 1/5 of the capacity?
Defrnder has good off road capability with its terrain response all terrain progresa control and hill discent conttrol.Its better than wrangler and g class
I can't stop watching this vehicle, hence Watched all reviews and I still can't get over it. A dream car to have.
Love the white _steelies._ I'd have those ANY day of the week over alloys. Pure utilitarianism. The base ethos of the original Defender.
Ah yes the car will be in the garage with multiple electrical issues, but at least the wheels look utilitarian
@@johnennis4586 haha so true
watched this on autocar then topgear then autotrader then caradvice and autoexpress. corona days. stay at home.
YES! Mine's on order here in Oz (full on farmer spec), couldn't give a * what the bogans think, long live JLR.
I have one ordered too ... little worried about it being delayed by "the virus" though.
Good on ya NCB - you'll be having a blast with it while the bogans are still arguing... here in CAN farmer spec, with the top diesel engine and just the options that improve off road, is about $CDN 75k, thats the 110. Guess you are higher as Oz taxes are more crippling....
NCB
Good for you Cobber 🇬🇧
Yes reliability !
Did you find the options a bit over priced though? I look at some of the prices and They either hid a nugget of gold in every option or they're fleecing their customers compared to what you can get in the aftermarket.
8:35 it's a Inline 6 not a V6 mate
I found this the most useful of the launch advert "reviews" to date. Thank you. Yes, I am looking forward to a competitive review against Jeep and Mercedes. I drove the Defender at the release event in California and found no significant surprises or disappointments, and confirmed corrections to the few, critical 4x4 gaps in my high-mileage D4. I am looking forward to receiving the P300 Defender 110 S, with Farmer off-road specs, soon. It will work and see much off-road use.
Great to see they tested in my country, NAMIBIA in Africa.
Good thing as I don't think they mentioned it anywhere in details
Looks a truly awesome and beautiful place.
nice to see Namibia again, used to live there 20 years ago and often saw prototypes testing
Great First Drive Review. One of the best premium SUVs
Brilliant effort from LR, however if they haven’t got the reliability and quality right it’ll all mean nothing.
Check the 2019 JD Power VDS survey. Land Rover is on par with other luxury brands like Merc and way better than Audi and BMW (bottom of the table).
Catch up with the times, that's the old image. You a boomer?
The least reliable car in the UK in 2019 was a Land Rover... so you re right, reliability is a huge issue with them
Dreadnought9T when I checked Land Rover was last in reliability for 2019! That hasn't stopped me from having a Range Rover. At least for now while it is still under warranty.
@@gc2234 JD power is run by the Autobrands...don't trusty a word they say. Everyone and his mom has a JD power award for something no matter what garbage they make.
Reliability, only time will tell
and how many ppl bitched about Discovery 2's & 3's, RR L322 and Defender Td5/TDCi having COMPLICATED electrics? Their f*cking stone age compared to this new fangled p.o.s
Thank you for the excellent review. Realize this was a driving/acquaint but would have liked to see what the rear seat space was like. Much appreciated.
I dont understand many peple critisize defender using all round independet suspension without solid axle and ladder frame.Just lool back hummer h1 and lambo lm002,both of them using independent suspension but have incredible off road capabilty.I trust new defender has good off road capability compare to other brands
Sounds like a pretty soft 4x4. It's definitely in the premium market now; nobody brings these off-road anymore.
Air springs in the desert, well ain't that confidence inspiring.
D3 and D4 see off road often, and have no problem with airsuspension (well, apart from age obviously)
Some of us like suspension not from the Stone Age. Air suspension is amazing
@@peanuts2105 Until you have to fix one out of warranty. If you plan on keeping one long term don't get the airride unless you mechanically incllind. Speaking from experience.
I wonder how all the electronic gizmos will hold up over time this being JLR
they wont
Apparently the Defender will still operate even with a failure of the gizmos. JLR doesn't want anyone getting stuck away from civilization due to an electronic breakdown
@@briananthony4044 Thats fine but considering the price tag the gizmos better hold up.
Rugged and futuristic. I absolutely love it.
What is the cost of repairing/replacing the air suspensions once they break outside of warrenty?
All of it!
How about one with a Jag i-Pace drivetrain?
Great review, plenty of tech details and personal observations. Best of the three
Great review love the car
Great review. The top gear guy was showing us giraffes and sunsets .
Abd saying he "dosen't get offroading"......then why is he reviewing the bloody thing. 😐
All very well but where do we put 6 sheep and fence posts.
Great review Matt
Please let this SUV be reliable please
As an apprentice at a dealer, definitely not happening.
As if the old defender the paragon of reliability.
@@ilovelimpfries that made my day 👍😁
B007 Thing is the old one was at least easy to repair. This one has to be reliable in order not to be a total failure.
Land Rover: NO
straight 6, no?
This is one of the better reviews. I had a Defender 110 heritage edition and am a bit biased but I also have some concerns about the new Defender. I drive a Land cruiser 200 at the moment.
From my point of view this review was not a commercial and also gave insight in the weaker points of the car. I was especially disappointed by the lack of flex and but against that I found that there are a ton of design elements that do the old defender absolutely justice.
I don't see though how the new defender is almost at the same price point as a Toyota land cruiser. I feel it should be more affordable.
Finally a review by somebody who sounds like he knows something about off-roading
@2:53 is that how quick the new infortainment system start up from cold??
Excellent review mate.
Could it be sharing with the new Bronco as well?
Overall seems like a decent and more importantly honest review. Appreciated. Apart from infotainment part maybe. It just doesn’t look responsive at all from this presentation.
Best review yet,
Great review, thanks!
I was told that because this new Defender has 85 ECU's(?) should one needed to call for an emergency vehicle to pick it up most will not touch the Defender. Do you know why that is?
I too was privileged to spend 2 days driving the pre-production versions at Land Rovers’ Eastnor Castle visitor experience centre. WOW 🤩 their refined prowess and unflappable competence quite literally blew our socks, gloves, hats and everything else off. This car is the real McCoy, it is a genuine game-changer ✊
Good video of a very expensive, complex disco in drag
I think the New Bronco might be the best bang for the buck when its released .....
@Prakrit Biswas Nah. IS makes a vehicle more livable for long trips. I think they designed this as an overlander not a Rock crawler. That being said leaving the back as solid rear axle would have been nice.
They're targeting Jeep. You know how expensive a Rbicon Jeep or Gladitor is? Its giong to be right up there with them I think. Better bring a big check. lol
Will this be reliable ????
As long as Microsoft is still in business, I don't see why not ;)
He is wearing a WELKER FARMS shirt.....yeah go WELKER FARMS 🔥🔥
This car doesn't make a lot of sense, what's the difference with the discovery. Its almost similar in price and not much more rugged or flexible for work. Unlike what matt says I think they should have made a direct competitor to the Wrangler, landcruiser and the double cabin pick ups.
Agree with James Harris, lots of Jeep owners love their off-road capability but hate the driving experience. This looks to meet 90% of what Jeep owners do with their vehicles, while being much nicer on road, perhaps even more fun and nimble after watching a few of the reviews out today. It will sell well.
This Defender costs the same as a new 4x4 specified Discovery, but significantly improves the 4x4 faults of the recent Discovery models -- namely small tire diameter , too large rims and non-availability of off-road tires (at least in North America). It also has a flat torque curve even in Petrol version (P300) -- And electronic 4x4 is better. (The P400 is necessary for L.A.freeways -- we'll leave that one for them.)
C Macd I doubt it will pull Jeep owners. Wranglers have huge aftermarket support and are cheaper.
To me this is more of a modern version of the original Range Rover and I think it looks superb, hope it sells well, although I don't understand all this 400hp malarkey, we don't need 400hp for off road driving. Unless the Jeep Wrangler is highly modified its just a toy. Its apity there's not a more basic LR Defender type vehicle for the farmers and utilities.
Allan McDigger - they have always said a utility / commercial version is coming, might be the best base for modding. Not sure if farmers will ever come back to this, they love their pickups.
Why didnt JLR put the 225kW/700Nm 3.0 turbo diesel from the Range Rover/Ranger Rover Sport? I feel it would have been a more appropriate engine for this vehicle over the 400bhp V6 petrol.
Imagine that 3.0L diesel in a Defender 90....yes please :)
Probably because they want to sell loads of high end versions in China. And passenger diesels are not legal anymore.
@@creepingedge5941 your probably right plus at the price they charging for them I think unfortunately your gonna see alot more in cities and suburbs than eg in the Australian out back.
A top spec in Australia is AUD $150k before you add any packs or options. I could easily see this car costing closer to $170k-$180k.
Too pretty, too fancy.. it's jag roots are showing. 😄
It’s a great review, you don’t just show the nice things but also what you don’t like. Journalists and youtuber tend nowdays to hype and promote the cars rather that make a proper pro/cons review. Well done!
Is defender is available in india
Is it good for world tour
Finally a presenter that knows what he is talking about! I can’t stand idiots with no off road experience reviewing defenders.
From the dash screen, t looks like he is using 2 differential locks. The center and one on the back. Usually Land Rovers are sold standard with only the center. I wonder how capable it would be with just the center lock. Or are all the new defenders sold standard with a back differential lock now.
Land Rover could have kept the design a bit old school like the G-Wagon. This design doesn't justifies its price tag.
Abhishek Arya yeah I don’t understand that comment. The G wagon starts at £96k the uk. The defender starts at £45k for the 110
can't have a swing up door if you have a door hehehe
have u shot the video with top gear. because i have seen similiar shoot in first gear in top gear about defender.
Awesome review , if only if your Mic had wind blocker ( dead cat ) at certain parts of your voice over 😊🙏🏾
Strange place for JLR to be... most Discovery or Range Rover owners would never dream of taking their vehicles into extreme situations. They are just too expensive and luxurious. This seems like more of the same...
I live in the middle east and that's the whole reason people buy the car to go to the desert in luxury
Not really. Lots of JLR cars are used to pull horse boxes and boats. My own RR has towed a horse box for about half of its 110,000 miles. For many people they are workhorses.
Land cruiser are expensive too
Dream vehicle....😘😘
Will there be a 3 litre diesel option?
don't think so, I think that's the petrol model, though there's two different power options with the diesels.
190
240
I might be wrong with them figures mind, that's just a rough guess.
Please clarify - P400 is a Petrol V6? Others report it is a Turbo charged inline 3 litre 6.......
My 2020 Pick for SUV of the Year.
A bit less metrication would be helpful.
Somehow you look like walter white of breaking bad explaining things to jesse 😀
If it isn't a body on frame vehicle also knows as ladder frame it isn't a true off-roader. Simple. It is just a crossover that can do mild offroad a Landcruiser would easily spank this offroad or even a Nissan Armada/Patrol
Iboy Dafreshest Jeep XJ and Nissan Pathfinder R50 seems to go against the grain there.
The ingenium diesel revs out to 6k+ RPM? As seen on 7:21
I guess not... 5.5 k max
It’s a very nice vehicle, but ultimately not as tough or versatile as the original Defender. But that was a bare bones, primitive if lovable vehicle, that couldn’t be repeated in our day and age.
It’s the Bronco?
I am not sure that it will fill the gap left by the old Land Rover, nice Welker Farms t shirt BTW Matt.
Half way through the "review" and he's talking about the infotainment screen and steering-wheel controls.
Is this a Land Rover or an XBox?
Where was it reviewed. Looks Africa somewhere.
top of the range engine is a inline 6 not v6...
It’s called a transfer box, not a case!
When you compare the Defender to a JL Jeep Wrangler make sure it's the Rubicon version.
Thats a good piont. The Jeep numbers did seem off. But maybe he's comparing base models?
I think they've really missed a trick not making it more of a throwback to the old defender. If they did what VW did with the Beetle reissue, vis-a-vis the retro styling approach, I think they would shift more units. The Mk1 Defender is a _classic_ design (in the tru sense), after all.
How many seats
and yet 95% will never see more than a curb
If true, the shame of this is that only the remaining 5% are likely to be specified with the locking rear-differential, 18 inch wheels and most advanced 4x4 electronics. So, buying a used one in five years will be like finding a locking rear differential D4 (LR4) now -- virtually impossible.
or even a grass verge
Dash board looks exactly like a city van
4runner for me
so the elephant in the room is....with all these electronics could I drive through a river without the electrics malfunctioning ? Most old defender enthusiasts will probably wait for the commercial versions which will be a basc specification and be mass customisable.
Have you seen the pick up versions?
What will the overland Yeti version look like ? will it be orange ?
Did you not see the bit where it has a wading depth of 900mm? That means it can WADE up to 900mm with no issues. So go ahead and drive through a river
Looks like a Nissan Cube variant
they should add the springs (coils)for all 4 wheels in case of air suspension fails the springs (coils) could hold the car. this is a big mistake. because almost all air springs fail quite soon except the lexus and toyota.
You can get a regular suspension as an option I think. I wouldn't touch the air ride myself. Its a nightmare waiting to happen out of warrantee.
Lot's of sucking air through teeth in this review
I was hoping to see more of the extreme offroading that was shown on instagram?
Too much money. otherwise I'm sure it is very good at off road stuff. Will it last? Who knows.
Check the 2019 JD Power VDS survey.
@@andrewnorris5415 lol yeah!😂😑
The lag on that touch screen is utter garbage.
i don't care about the petrol engines i want that 240hp DIESEL POWER!
Love your review, I watch the other reviews of this trip from people like Topgear and you come off as geniuin and knowing what the hell you're talking about. Compared to the others you're talking about options we care about instead of guys complaining about the handling at high speeds (comparing to sports cars😪) or how great the trip was (oooh look a giraff!) or that "they don't get offroading". Bleh.
Also your totally right about the air ride. My Dad's Ram truck with air ride has left him stranded a couple of times. Unless you know how to fix one and carry some spare parts the air ride Defenders don't belong on a long off road trip IMO.....unless your near somewehere to get it towed for warranty work. 😅 Honestly Landrover made changes fine. But nobodies going to take it seriously unless they bring reliability back to the brand with this vehicle. Maybe the old Defender wasn't reliable to some but it was easy to fix. With all the electronics on this it better be at least as reliable as a Jeep cause it ain't giong to be easy to fix. Nevermind what the Toyota snobs think.
I think your long term Land Cruiser test car is better than the new Defender...The Prado 3 doors is quite unstoppable and really reliable. I'd choose that over both the new and old Defender every day. And for those looking at the numbers: there are different ways to measure ground clearance and off road angles...
Without a mention i already knew it was filmed in Namibia the land of the brave. Awesome scenery beautiful car
7k RPM diesel? Lol. Nice reportage.
To many electronics bring back the old days when you can fix them on the side of the road now you need a dealership behind you
I remember like it were yesterday ppl moaning on when Discovery 2 was 'new' and having really 'complicated' electronics, they had ONE ECU as did the Defender Td5 and TDCi ,not 85 like this latest bag of sh*t - err sorry ''bag of tricks''.
Welcome to the brave new world. The vast majority of new vehicles are already, or will be like this. Get with the programme.
Finally!!
Performs well on camera , but it’s unproven...I’m disappointed it doesn’t have a chassis and yet it’s not light weight....life cycle is usually shorter on vehicles with out a chassis in heavy duty vehicles. I think this leans more toward SUV than 4wd truck
85 Computers..humm..was this car designed to be a "minefield of costs"
1 computer/ECU was more than enough. Td5/TDCi are 'ancient' now, yes they needed a laptop to fix (sometimes), but were still spanner friendly most of the time.
the only thing these will be towing.. will be kombucha, starbucks and designer clothing bags.
It looks like a bmw mini and a mk1 freelander had an offspring.
rolling over sand and smooth stones isnt exactly a difficult task. can the new defender make it across the rubicon trail? i dont think land rover wants anyone to try that, so we will never know the answer until someone who has alot of money to waste, tries it
People bought the defender, out of utility or passion/desire at a certain price point. This one checks none of those boxes. Sure people will cross shop this with other SUVs, but it has become just another SUV. For everyday use there are better options. With taxes becoming a factor SUVs with decent real electric range like the x5 45e will be where the market is heading... I can't believe they sacrificed their niche, I hope it works out for them because overall they are a cool brand
Location, top gear mentioned. No thanks
You have to rather compare the new Defender to the Jeep Cherokee than Wrangler. BTW the 3.0 liter is a straight 6 and not V6....08:36. Providing us with your BS opinion about the Double Cab pickup market does not make it fact. The DEFENDER 130 was still in production until 2016 and Jeep Wrangler GLADIATOR sales in the US are doing well so why not a 130 DC HCPU to absorb nearly 1/5 of the capacity?
Defrnder has good off road capability with its terrain response all terrain progresa control and hill discent conttrol.Its better than wrangler and g class
These tyres looks like winter tyres why????
Jaroslaw Dudek - you never seen off road tires before??
It might be a very good car but its not a Defender Its a replacement for Discovery I call this the Pretender
Looks like a Disco with a butch makeover- imagine being stuck in the middle of nowhere with an electrical fault...