Former Seahawk Greg Olsen on why Russell Wilson wanted Broncos trade | The Colin Cowherd Podcast
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- 3-time Pro Bowler and FOX NFL Analyst Greg Olsen discuss the reasons why Russell Wilson wanted to leave the Seattle Seahawks for the Denver Broncos. He also recalls the bizarre scene he witnessed in the Seattle Seahawks locker room, and why it led to Wilson's frustrations with the team. Plus, he tells the story of his mind-blowing first meeting with Russ.
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00:00 - Start
04:03 - Seattle's side of the trade
06:36 - Why Russ was frustrated
10:01 - Mind-blowing meeting with Russ
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What I got from Greg Olsen was that you don't know what commitment is until you come across a guy like Russell Wilson. All in, year around, thinking about the intricacies of the game. Good luck Russell and thank you for your time in Seattle.
Hell yeah Seattle will always love Russ. He got us are only SB win in franchise history.
Completely feel the same! I'm happy for the memories Russ! All the best in Denver.
I'm not crying because it's over, I'm smiling for what we achieved.
If he didn't wanna play for us anymore then it only makes sense to trade him and get something for him.
Man i cant believe Russ is gone! Tough day for hawks fans! Damn this sucks
Russ Wilson is what taught you about commitment? Have you ever heard of a guy named Tom Brady???
@@chadwickneumann2773 Brady left too. Did Seattle get better players to compliment Wilson? No. Did the Patriots get players to compliment Brady? Hell yes. And that's the difference.
Greg Olsen is a really good analyst. He provides great insight and analysis.
I agree. He should get his own show.
@@hkchrism v
Very impressive commentary. Olsen could call Monday Night Football SOLO!!!
He really is
Couldn't agree more. Articulate. Knowledgable. Charismatic.
Seamless commentary and insight.
Olsen airing the frustration of ALL hawks fans over the last 6 years.
Not all. There’s a silent majority of players and fans who think Pete paying Russ over the defense was a mistake.
100% How many times do you have to watch a guy get paid the farm and then get an attitude. Im glad he's gone
@MonkByte u really think it was russ why we won the super bowl and made it back the following year? Jesus gtfoh. Any qb would have won that super bowl and possibly the following year with LOB and marshawn lynch. People are so ignorant and dont want ti blame russ for anything or how crappy and inconsistent he actually is now because he puts up this front during interviews.
Ur crazy to think russ was gonna win seahawks another super bowl. He wont win another super bowl period...
@@MonkByte I will never understand people that think like this. You can't win without a QB, you *can* win with a lackluster defense or other pieces. If you have a transcendent or franchise QB, YOU PAY HIM.
@@EmmanuelTurner245225 Broncos won with 80 year old Peyton Manning, Eagles won with Foles, Niners are consistently good with mediocre QBs, etc. It really just depends on the team’s philosophy of winning and spending money to achieve that philosophy. As elite as Russ is, and he is elite, he’s elite in a way that doesn’t consistently sustain drives or help an offensive line as much as you need to. It’s great when it works but all too often it can be go big or go home. It’ll be interesting to see if Lock can make it work.
Olsen is amazing. One of the best football minds and analysts out there
Yeh as a Steelers fan, this guy was *ALWAYS A GAMER* 4 Carolina every Sunday. I wish the Steelers had him. He woulda gave Big Ben more depth plus at keast 2 more Super Bowls for sure! Brilliant analytical mind, super smart!
In his mind only
I believe Gregg Olsen's observations are spot on.
This was a great interview. Love hearing Olsen talk football. Good job by Cowherd stepping back and letting him speak too.
Cowherd described the Hawks exactly how I have seen them during the PC/JS era.
Best comments I’ve ever heard on what really happened. Greg Olsen saw it first hand and really said what happened.
Great insight and honesty by Olsen. Othe former players should take note.
On how to not win a superbowl?
Olson's descriptions of the rigid offensive ideology of the Seahawks--I am a lifelong fan--and then of Wilson's consistent personal commitment to excellence are outstanding. Carroll is a great motivator, but Russ was right to bolt to Denver. Wilson's charitable contributions to the City of Seattle alone make hom a HOF Seattleite. I hope the Broncos get Von Miller back, too--and also Bobby Wagner.
I'm a Broncos fan and we'll take really good care of him like we did Manning for sure. I hope we get Von back too. I wouldn't mind Wagner either haha.
I think I’m a Bronco fan now. I really like Russ.
I'm still a hawks fan for life but I'll be tuning in on Sundays to watch Russ and the broncos. We dropped the ball with this one and I've been saying it for a while.
Pete Carroll admitted that he wouldn't be there if it wasn't for Russell Wilson. ....guess what! Russell Wilson isn't there!
@@Obsouleet When Von left us for the Rams I watched him as much as it hurt. I know how you feel man.
I like how this podcast gets straight to the content. No long musical intro, no stupid banter between host and guest, no begging for likes and subscribes.
You are aware that the 49ers.beat the Cowboys and the GB Packers at their house, using that antiquated system. And they almost beat the Rams. It's not the system, it's that the SHs didn't draft the players to effectively run that system. But, you can blame Pete for that, he went against the scouts, coaches and GM's picks.
@@davidcadena8114 Think you replied to the wrong comment lol
@@BDizDaBest sorry. I thought I was responding to Seattle Seahawks fan. My bad
Greg is such a good guy. Thats what I feel we lost with russ. His work ethic, its insane. Don't know what seattle will be like. But now I'm a bronco fan. Lol
We’re happy to have you :)
Losing Wagner broke my heart. How dare they do that to him. No team has ever given away 2 first ballet hall of famers in one day.
Always Hawks fan first. But not playing the Hawks I am rooting for Russ
Typical Seahawks fan move….jump ship and run😂🤣😂
@@jamessims5240 Don’t generalize… we aren’t all fickle.
That's pretty damning on the Seahawks culture. You can play defense, run and punt the ball if you have the Legion of Boom in their prime. They don't have the LOB anymore, you had a QB and weapons. Build an OL and let Russ play, but they never got out of their old ways.
Cant build an OL with limited cap space
@@erismana2105 Seattle had the highest paid OL in the league Wilson's rookie year they were still ranked bottom 5 in the league. Money isn't everything.
Us hawks fan have been screaming at this guy all season to feed him
People don't realize how hard it is to block for a scrambling QB. Russ can't see over the line.
@@damonmcdowell3684 did you just wake up from a 10 year coma or are you just that ignorant and stuck in your ways?
Wilson is one of the highest rated QBs in history from the pocket. He's disproved the height thing so much that guys that look like him are going 1st overall. It's done, give it up.
Olsen a future hall of fame TE basically said Pete Carroll and his offensive staff is outdated basic and holding the talent back. Pete is going to ruin the Hawks especially with lack of drafting well lately.
Or he could just make the playoffs 😅😅😅
Shelby Harris has been criminally underrated for years now. I know draft picks are the real trade value but all 3 players have a chance to start for Seattle this year. Fant and Harris should be real upgrades too, let's just hope they can find a QB with all those 1st rounders in the near future.
We’re gonna miss Shelby here in Colorado! Like he says, “best hands in the league!” Lol
But nah for real he seriously seems to bat at least 4-5 passes down every game it’s insane.
It's a great move for Seattle. Say what you want about our o line, but people don't realize how hard it is to block for a scrambling QB. And Russ is sub par in a pocket
Sike Shelby Harris got paid and forgot how to play
BEST HANDS IN THE LEAGUE! In all seriousness though his pick against Steelers was one of the few bright moments over the last 6 years of BS. Wish the best for him
Seattle isn’t a great drafting team so it’s up to them to make the most of this otherwise this trade will look very one sided even with Shelby and Fant tbh
He nailed it when he said Seattle is stuck in their ways. A great team doesn’t force its players to play their way. They look at the players they have and adapt to them. Pete is stuck in his 80/90’s football style. The game has changed and the league does it all for offense. You think if you got a guy like Russ and DK you’d just force feed him. But nope, never saw that once. The only thing that makes me not super angry is knowing Russ was gonna want ALL THE MONEY next year. And we wouldn’t have paid him and we’d be left empty handed. This really hurts as a Hawks fan.
Plus the moves they made before were all in moves to win, makes 0 sense to do this now. Why the fuck trade so much for adams if youre gonna blow it up next season? So many contradictions + pete stuck in his ways makes me wanna murder him
The owner of the Seahawks is really to blame she refused to fire Pete Carroll when things really went down hill
@@Nighthawk-8050 'when things really went down hill?' One season with seven wins, after a 12 win season, is down hill?
@@Chalk89But did Pete get the Seahawks another Super bowl win nope I'm going to say this again his style of coaching is obsolete the game has passed him by and the man can't draft to save his life I'm happy for Russell I'm glad he had to get the hell out of there and yeah I still think the owner should have fired him HELL he should have been gone last year
I realized what you are realizing after 49 debacle….what a joke…for Pete’s sake….
greg olsen looks like a mix of dexter and the sheriff from stranger things lol
I'm in awe with what Greg said about Russell. I'll miss him in green and blue for a lifetime but I wish nothing but success for that guy and the team he's with 💙💚
Unfortunately Greg did not know how to assess wisdom only work ethic and being smart, so until Russ gains awareness he will continue to struggle
@@frankbraillard6317 well that's some BS if I ever heard it...Olsen just told you how driven Russell Wilson is and YOU say he is not aware? Seattle will struggle for YEARS!
@@audreycumby1075 Some fans have "filters" when it comes to crediting certain players with "awareness" vs other players they're more comfortable with.
Oh, wow. Russell Wilson was my favorite QB all time. I really want to meet him during Seahawks game, but the game was so expensive. I couldn't afford to go to the game. I watching game at home and cheered for them. I pray for his health and his family. Thanks so much for brought us Champions into our town. I wish you the best of luck, Russ.
Russ wasn't the reason we(Seattle seahawks) won the sb. Legion of boom did!!
Jesus that was hard to read! Proof read much? Lol man! 🤦♂️
@@robertklebe9236 he was definitely a reason we won the superbowl but our defense was the biggest reason we won!
Always enjoy hearing Greg Olsen's take on things. Go Broncos!! Hoping for an exciting season!
It’s crazy how much more humble Cowherd is on his Podcast.
Man I'm gonna' miss RW3 so much. Super talented, hard working and always in pursuit of greatness on and off the field. I do feel like the Carroll system held him back a lot.. looking forward to cheering him on in a new, fresh system. Hope he thrives.
Russel Wilson held our system back looks more and more like
yeah , go be a donkey fan. Get off the real Seahawk fans nuts.
I don't know it looks like Carroll has a system that makes QBs look good
Sweet Jesus, my comment did not age well.
@@neilswan6977 respect for coming back for some tasty crow. We've all done it. Don't feel bad brother 🤣
Here Here!! Three cheers for Greg Olsen! He is the freshest voice out there. Better than Romo and that’s saying something.
Powerful interview! Seattle will only "fully" appreciate RW now he's gone. Glad he got another shot at reaching his goals.
I hope by Seattle, you mean the team. Fans like myself fully appreciate him. I am not looking forward to watching them get on the qb carousel.
@@jasoneverett at this point i hope we win at most 4 games the next 2 seasons so pete can finally be gone. we need a massive overhaul upstairs. some younger coaches
@Jason Everett I feel like many of the fans went pretty negative on him. Like if Pete and John didn't want to trade him too. The truth is Pete and John have always had a cheap approach to winning. Refusing to just make the smart choice, always going with the cute, cheaper, non blue chip player. I am glad RW has a chance to go somewhere where they draft sensibly.
@@raedene3 I don't know if that is true. Most fans wanted to fire Pete not trade RW3. You have to remember... Seahawks have had 1 franchise QB in it's history. We aren't stupid. But the other commenter is correct,. We were not going to pay $200M for 4 yes next year.
Russ wanted out you don’t keep ppl hostage get what you can while you can, we will rebuild, give us a 3 year window and we will be back while, wishing him the best I won’t be surprise if their a top team next year
No coincidence that Wilson cleared his Twitter account of all Seahawks photos about 2 weeks ago.
Extremely insightful interview on what really goes on behind the scenes. KJ Wright did a similar interview on the "Seahawks Man 2 Man" podcast a few wks ago and basically exposed the thinking of mgmt and flagged a full reset before it happened today
Another factor, that Denver freed them selves from the big contract Shelby Harris just signed this year, a lot of people are not paying attention to that
It’s a great move. Wilson’s remaining $ isn’t too much next year either.
Agreed, thought that was a terrible deal at the time, for an average at best d lineman
Until the Broncos gotta pay 50 million to keep him.
The Shelby Harris contract was not holding the Broncos back WTF
@@stakknation123 ofcourse it was not holding the Broncos back but, that contract was big for an average player, this is the point . Now Denver can replace him in free agency with a better lineman with the same money
And Wilson is now with Hackett. I'm really excited for the season
I’ll be watching Denver from now on.
The Denver Broncos is loaded, they know they can give up a lot for elite qb and still have a lot of talent left, to make them a serious scarey team
Honestly they didn’t give up much. They gave away the starting TE who was arguably not as good as the 2nd string TE and really only held the starting slot due to being 1st rounder. A very underrated and good but aging DLineman high ceiling QB that is trending towards the floor, but I will say with actually good coaches he can be better than what Fangio and company “developed” him into.
Broncos got rid of the worst 2 things about the team last year. The HORRIBLE coach, and mediocre QB play and replaced them with a younger offensive minded coach and an historically elite QB.
The draft picks didn’t contribute to the team in any way.
@@ImGayWhenISayThisBut I agree with all that you said except Fant. I liked Fant a lot and he was the one I hated losing the most from Denver. Albert O is still decent though so I'm not really worried about it. I think Fant suffered from the same problems Lock did with Shurmer and Fangio coaching. If he has better coaching they will be better. Harris is good but streaky last year after he got paid. I think we paid him a little too much so I'm cool with them getting out of that salary.
PLAYOFFS WE WILL SEE U THERE😂
Colin is the best, great insight from Greg.
Broncos fans have to be out of their minds happy especially after hearing stuff like this. So looking forward to see them play.
that didnt age well did it?
@@jamesmorgan2064 it’s week 4.
@@IIIWITHOUTaNAMEIII I agree with you on that. But its funny how everyone was saying all Wilson had to do was go to Denver and they're ready to go ! Even Cowherd said as such in this clip ! Now Denver fans are saying the same things many in Seattle have been saying the last 5 years.
He's an aging small qb who has lost a step. He holds the ball too long, thus putting a lot of pressure on the o-line . Seattle and Denver have the same record 4 weeks in. 2-2 He's your problem now. Enjoy
And now it’s week 7, 2-5 and spiralling down rapidly.
@@IIIWITHOUTaNAMEIII how about now ?
Olsen said it best...what we could do and what we were allowed to do....wow.
At 8:19 for real...always thought it. I think everyone thinks it. Good luck Russell. Always Go Hawks!!!
Thanks for being with the Seahawks. Break a leg!! Greg is a great analyst.
It’s insane how this turned out, especially when some teammates finally spoke about Russ as a teammate.
Well said Greg💪
Damn! That’s story at the end. We all knew Pete Caroll was the problem in Seattle and he should have gone
Doesn’t seem like it now
@@layzface7775 you’re right. I take it back
That was some good insight. Great interview
just shows how shallow Greg is and lacking in wisdom
I'm glad Greg is stating all this! Ppl put way to much blame on russell! Russell had to save them every 4th which is a impossible task. Pete needed to be fired
Wait. Seeing how we (Seahawks fan, here) have drafted in the last few years…especially with first round picks. Do we trust Schneider, Carroll and co to use those picks to really rebuild? 😭😭😭.
Russ is a legend. I’m sure he’ll do GREAT things for Denver and the Broncos.
No we don't. This was a texans level meltdown. This team doesnt deserve my time anymore.
The 9th pick is so high even if we reach it still will be a solid player unless we pull a wtf and draft a 3rd rounder there. Thats all im banking on.
After 2012, their draft record is ABYSMAL. Don't trust Carroll as far as his bubble gum flavor lasts.
i think Russ is thinking beyond football - the Broncos gives him a connection to Peyton & Elway - the heavy hitter business contacts he adds is incalculable.
You know the Mannings. are trying to buy the team Elway too
He definitely wants to be in the Elway and Manning circle, which is an excellent mindframe
Excellent point.
Absolutely agree. If you watch the video the Broncos just put out of behind the scenes of Russell's first days there he mentions multiple times that Elway and Manning playing there and the legacy of Broncos quarterbacks and what it means excited him.
And what 5-12 adds is incalculable as well……
I love Russ so much! He’s just a excellent example of a human being! They say he’s not as good as he was 4-5 years ago. The offensive line had him running for his life every game! I was a die hard Seahawks fan because of Russ! I may be switching to orange and blue come September. I hope Pete carol sucks it!
I agree with EVERYTHING you said..I am switching to Denver too!
lol. spoken like a true "12".
@@TDCLOL BTW, it's "The 12th Man." Twelves was another scam perpetrated on the fans by ownership who were too cheap to pay Texas A&M the royalty for us to keep using that name.
Broncos O line is Waaay better than Seattle's.
How’s that working out for ya? 12’s don’t need you - you can stick it out with orange & blue for eternity now.
Greg Olsen thank you for your year in the town wish we could've had you play a couple more years
This segment is gold. Where's the rest?
Thank you for the inside scoop on Seattle. What a shame. I wish Lock the best out there.
I hate that people say he's underrated. He was under utilized.
Of course, Pete Carroll always want to play his game style run the ball and play defense. Remember 2020 season where Pete Carroll decided to give Russell a chance of letting him cook the 1st halve of the season then pulled the plug when Brian Schottenheimer didn't run the ball on the second half of the season. The whole momentum had gone to sh@t leading to the playoff against the Ram during the wildcard where they're one and done.
Misused is more like it.
The Quiet Colin is good. Greg Olsen is great.
This is the first time I have been confronted with the question, am I a Hawks fan first or a Russ fan first. What Pete has done to our club turns my stomach, between his actions and Jodie's inactions, I am devastated.
this is what you get when you have an owner that has zero interest in the team and she gives complete control to Carroll and Schneider, with zero accountability. They have no one to answer to. If Paul Allen was still alive, I think they both would have been gone 3-4 years ago.
Should of got rid of Carrol and keep Russ , that would of been the smart move,
Agree!
Na, Pete Carroll is the best coach this team has ever had and probably ever WILL have.
@@simonsays582 True, PC is the best coach Seattle has ever had, but it's time for him to go. His coaching style is as old he is and it's not working.
No coach Carroll, no Russ (they accused Pete of being insane), no Legion of Boom (Pete knew Sherm from high school, nobody else valued him), no Hawk tackling, developed by Pete at USC and now used by whole NFL, no "defense wins the game" which it does, and no game style which has been copied by the whole NFL. His coaching tree is huge and his assistants are everywhere, which is tough. Listen. This is Los Angeles talking here and we would love to have him back. We have 2 football teams. Pete was called The Prince of LA
Hey, John Schneider can come with him! No doubt his kids would love to live on the ocean in Manhattan Beach and enjoy the LA life. You've got USC, UCLA, players to choose from everywhere. So. Yes! Let us have him back. We will give him all the support he needs to build another dynasty! And Seattle? Back to the land of mediocrity.
@@cacproductions8843 Pete's way of doing things hasn't worked in half a decade at least. He hit on draft picks early in his time in Seattle and has come up short in that department for years. His defensive philosophy has produced less with more for years, taking talented personnel in Seattle and failing to have a top 10 defense past the LOB. He's a Hall of Fame coach, the best in franchise history, but his philosophy is outdated, and it's time for him to retire.
Clearly Russell was limited by that Seattle offensive scheme, average offensive line, and terrible skill players. "This feels like Brady to Tampa." My sides are in orbit.
Greg Olson getting hurt was low key a huge blow to hawks the year he was there. He was just starting to click and was becoming the 3rd down guy Russell would look to. The hawks tried higher pass to run ratios for a couple stretches when all the running backs were hurt but Carroll cannot stomach turnovers and 3 and outs so he would always drift back to his balanced philosophy. That’s what you get with Carroll for better or worse. His personality and will dominate the team. I love him and Schneider but they have flaws. They undervalue the solid blue collar dudes like max Unger, golden gate and Bradley mcdougal and love the flashy talent like jimmy graham, Percy harvin and Jamal adams. As a result they’ve subtracted from team chemistry for over priced pieces that don’t fit the system. They stopped playing young guys as much which was their hallmark when Carroll got there and they gambled on their first round picks ie McDowell, penny etc instead of trying to build an o line fortress around Wilson. I think the trade is a win for both sides. Wilson gets to see what he can do as the man and Carroll gets one last shot at creating a winning team by his blueprint.
As much as it hurts I totally agree with you on that i really want my seahawks to win
A true Seahawks fan always have hope. Go Seahawks!
Greg is right. U have the most accurate QB in the league let him throw!
This proves Pete Carroll was the problem. I'm glad Russ moved on before it was too late.
Pete way doesn't work and he is very stubborn old man.
Winning a SuperBowl, going to two in a row, are "problems" I'd Iike to have.
@@williamcooke6056 Since the last SB, the team has fallen apart: bad drafting, bad trades and bad coaching.
Pete will win a SBwith Lock
@@seaor2k122 that cause Russell wanted a massive contract
I think Denver didn’t see that russel has vision problem. He can’t read defense and he can’t see the open receivers. Denver will find out soon.
I can't wait to see those division mashup games.
Is not a personnel issue it was a qb issue. Russ can’t see the receiver and he can only throw a long bomb. Good luck denver you will find out soon.
And enjoy the myltiple 9 yd sacks
The disconnect that Olsen is talking about is interesting... I don't think the seahawks played to the strengths of their best players which was on offense. Seems like seahawks gave up their best player/leader. I wonder how they'll deal with the qb situation/first round draft picks. Seahawks aren't good at drafting early and just released bobby wagner
Yeah we Fucked bro…
I'm a Broncos fan and liked Lock a lot and really badly wanted to see that kid succeed. Hearing this makes me almost feel bad for Lock again because he just walked into the same bullshit he left from when we had Fangio and Shurmer coaching. Defense only. No offense until the very end until we absolutely had to score points to win. I also felt bad for Bridgewater too because the coaching was horrendous and did the exact same to him even though I feel like Bridgewater is mediocre at best. Lock never proved to be much better but still, he had more arm ability than Teddy ever had. They never let Lock use it. They never coached him up or anything it seemed to me. But yeah. As a Broncos fan I'm super happy with the trade and happy we got way better coaching. I don't know I guess I just wish Lock would of went to a better option than what happened or something. I think in Pittsburgh or even Indy he could be better under better coaching.
@@Jn-tj2ob lockett might be next player gone I guess this a big rebuild should've seen this coming when the seahawks didn't resign kj wright last year
What Olsen is saying reminds me of what John Elway went through with the great Dan Reeves where we would have to play conservative then let John do his thing at the end to save us.
You could not be more correct.
@@normkicks7181 RIP Dan Reeves! I don’t want to talk bad about him, he should be in the HOF. He was great with the Broncos, great with the Giants and Falcons. But he did hold John Elway back. I’m sorry, I can’t think of any QB in NFL History to take those teams of the late 80’s in that same situation and circumstances to 3 Super Bowls in 4 years than John Elway. For me the GOAT.
Greg Olsen is a gift to all serious sports fans. An incredible example of subjective/objective analysis. Rare combination of intellect and heart. And so well-spoken. Tells it like it is. Bet he's got a Jim Bouton-like "Ball Four" book for us!
Greg Olson is a really good speaker. I hope he becomes a proper analyst coz he’s good.
Seattle just became the Detroit Lions
The Lions have a SB trophy?.... Na, didn't think so.
OKC Seahawks.
During the 2021 season you could see Pete talking to Russ during a timeout or after a punt and Russ didn’t even make eye contact the whole conversation. Big change from previous seasons where they appeared to at least engage in useful convo. Russ has wanted out for a while now.
@@chiggsytube like I said, the previous seasons were different.
@@chiggsytube You have zero idea what you're talking about
I’m shocked he hung around as long as he did. I would have wanted out in 2015, and definitely after 2017.
Very insightful
Be careful what you wish for, Russ! Go ‘Hawks!
Sounds believable. Carroll still only values defense and just scoring enough to win. Why else do we run up the middle 50% of the time. Russ had to hate it.
It won Russ a Super Bowl 🤷🏻♂️
Ikr, Caroll never does anything creative. Always the same mediocre shit every time and refuses to do anything outstanding. It's cowardly.
@@FlashyBeatsTV Yea, in an era that ended years ago. Times have changed. The way to win in the NFL has changed. Pete hasn't changed with it, and it should have cost him his job at least two years ago.
Lifetime Hawk fan from the start in the King dome. Wishing Russell and his family all the best. Seattle has never sustained a winning sports team. If he stayed here he would become injured once more due to our teams poor performance.
The Russ trade and the Bobby cut don’t worry me as a Seahawks fan. What concerns me is that Bobby Wagner claims the organization didn’t even have the decency to tell him face to face about him being cut. This is very concerning.
This is good!
I always thought Russ wasn’t getting used right in Seattle especially last few years. After this I know I was right
Used wrong how? He would never go for 5..6 yard passes
@@edubb2491 Watching the Seahawks over the years, it was either a 40 yard deep ball or 1 yard pass that resulted in a punt later on
@@ChadHellgado thank you!!
Boy hindsight is 20/20.... Go Hawks =D
I commend Greg for his analysis. How well did that season go, though? Good god. Hoping this next year goes better for Russ, he's a helluva player.
Whoa great work greg olsen
It will be interesting to see if Mr. Wilson lives up to his own hype in a new situation. Going to be rough for my Hawks the next few years, ngl
Hawks should draft Sam Howell out of UNC.
Wilson wants a chance at another Super Bowl. Seahawks have no chance. Packers have no chance. The other teams are stronger and getting stronger. Good for Russel !
How bout now?
@@layzface7775 lol cowboys still suck!!
I don’t know what Seattle’s fans think of Russell leaving the Seahawks but I couldn’t believe this would ever happen. I feel a real sadness that our Seahawks family won’t be the same but especially when John Schneider released Bobby Wagner. Bobby was an excellent player & always played with his heart! What a great let down for our team & fans. Schneider got rid of 2 of our best players. Now can’t help but say goodbye to a winning team. A losing Denver quarterback is what our team got out of this mess! A disappointed Seahawks fan!
These were two aging players . Teams can't keep these guys like theyre fine wine.
That background screen on Colin I thought my screen was dirty lol
Sad we lost him... Feel our offense is outdated too...
Run heavy. Strong young defense. Its a successful path.
Dude, Pete Carroll got Drew Lock and he will burn Denver for this.
@@braddelany6234 Lmao he only got traded to free up #3
@@_Schwartz name the last team that won a superbowl that way ill give you hint it was us 10 years ago doesnt work anymore when there are players like mahomes
@@_Schwartz It hasn't been a championship path in years.
I understand Russell has wanted the Seahawks to open up their offense more. But watching him play in waldrons system, especially last season, the number of times he would not see wide-open receivers streaking across the field in short-to-intermediate passing routes, was unreal. Because of his tremendous athleticism, he never really had to learn how to play as a system quarterback and he never developed the skill for going through his read progressions. Now that he is no longer a mobile quarterback and a threat to run and pick up critical first downs on 3rd down, some of the flaws of his game such as this have really started to become exposed. Pete Carroll is also extremely flawed as a coach and I would like to see him leave Seattle. But Russell Wilson is anything but a godsend at this point in his career, especially when you consider how brutally tough it is to deal with he and his agent and that he will be looking for a 50 million dollar per year payday next year. So I'm glad to see him leave Seattle at this point in his career. He can go to Denver and be a prima donna, chew up all their salary cap space, but he's going to have a tough time criticizing coaches and players for any of his shortcomings going forward
Wilson is short and most enemy DL are tall, so his throw can easily got block. That's why he strengthen long deep pass since it's very hard to block and give a lot of yards when it works.
@@andis9076 it has nothing to do with his height. All you have to do is watch his eyes and he doesn't even go through his read progressions.
You might be on to something. I would ask my son watching the game with me why Russ held on to the ball for so long when he had wide open guys. He always seems to look for the big play but never thought about him not going through his reads.
@@chickengod9184 : Do you even know what a progression is? And how can you see his eyes? Sit down!
@@corona1210 : Russ held the ball because his WRs weren’t open. They weren’t open because Pete’s offense was stale!
Denver’s navy uniforms are my favorite. I wish they’d bring them back full time.
I'd like to hear his opinion of Cam Newton...
Really insightful! He's very impressive!
As a Seahawks fan, it has been painful watching this coaching staff flounder. I wish Russ the best and hope he wins 3 more super bowls! It'll be a long 3-5 years of missing the playoffs for the Seahawks now.
Albert Okuebuhnam outplayed Fant last season anyways so I think Broncos are fine a TE
This right here. I think losing shelby hurts more. I winced when I saw him on that list. we now have some big holes on defense.
They think Fant was the high end player in the deal. Shelby Harris was one of the leaders on D. He will be missed
But.....defensive players are cheaper and we still have a lot of money. Between DL, edge and Ps2's complimentary cornerback, free agency on its own fills two of those holes. This defense would probably have secured three more wins for Denver, had the entire top half of its linebacking corps not been injured off the table so early. People are going to clamor to play here and some of them are good players that want a ring. Not thinking Denver runs everyone over and wins the super bowl in Hackett and Wilson's first year, but second year and beyond, this team is gonna be meaner than shit on a stick.
@@odell4625 Im thrilled with the trade. We got our franchise QB. And hes young enough to play for another 7 or 8 years at that level. Rogers has maybe 2. trading lock removes the media distraction involving him still being a "future" qb trained by wilson. I absolutely have zero issues here. If youre going to trade the farm for a single player, it better be for a player so important we cant win without him. Russel Willson is that kind of player. The AFC West is going to be a fun division ro watch.
Shelby and his key pass blocks and even an int will be missed. He was a favorite of mine as well. His big ole smile and personality just a much...
It’s nice to hear from Olsen about the coaching. It’s obvious it’s a problem and they wouldn’t let Russ cook. I’m little upset Russ left Seattle but I hope he gets to shine and get that MVP season he’s been chasing to have. Far as being a Hawk fan goes. Gonna be a tough road until Pete and Company are gone.
Didn’t age well.
Like they say you don't know how good you had it until that person is gone. Seahawks will definitely be wishing they kept him. DK will want to leave next.
DK will leave next and will end up in Denver in a year...
Didn’t dk get a bunch of catches and tds with geno?
How you all feel now?
About as well explained as anyone.
wowee..colin talked to him for 15 mins..he must know him sooo well...
Greg is a class act really appreciate his insight. As a life long Hawks fan, Russ’s time in Seattle was so fun and he will be missed. I cannot think of any other word to describe the way Seattle’s front office mid-handled the best QB we’ve ever had in our history at Seattle but Bizarre! After a decade we couldn’t figure out how to maximize his talents?? Hate the trade, he made the game so fun to watch.
Can't wait to see how badly Pete whiffs on these draft picks.
Hey guys! Did you know Colin talked to Russ for 15 mins at the super bowl?! 😂
Totally long enough to establish a legitimate qualified insight into someone's life.
I hadn't cow heard that! Wow!😉
And yes the o-line is better than people think as he pointed out - there really was not a big personnel issue, more an philosophical difference. You have Brown, Lewis, Jackson and Shell doing pretty well on o-line, with two great receivers and decent RBs and TEs. But the philosophy was always to just stay within a score until the 4th Q and then Wilson win on final drive. That hasn't been working any more. The offense was so non-creative that I've been able to call out the plays just looking at the personnel/formation, and players have mentioned that the opposing defenses have been doing the same thing. So was the issue Wilson, the OC, Pete, all of the above? He's a guy dedicated to preparation and winning, so without being in the locker room hard to know. Greg Olson nailed it - he prepared, they had personnel, but for some reason executed like they were JV. At that point, you have to make a change of some kind.
All I can say is something had to be done weather Wilson didn't want to play for Seattle or Seattle not liking his style I'm excited for the new era even if it means not being so good for a while which depends how they chose they're draft picks
Seahawks brass loved having Russ, but they didn’t like Russ being unhappy.
Pete wanted to run it back this year; when he said the team had no intention of trading Russ they meant it.
The provident is, intentions can change when your QB us unhappy, you’re trending downwards, and teams come with good offers.
Pete was stupid for rejecting the Bears’ offer in 2021, which made the Broncos’ 2022 offer look a little weak. But that goes to show his judgment problem. He almost always gets things wrong.
Even when he drafted Russ, he had no idea that Russ was as good as he was. He thought Russ would be a career backup, if he even lasted in the league at all.
He blew Pete away. I’ve heard stories that Pete’s jaw stayed dropped during the entire 2012 training camp because Russ looked, acted and played like a 7th-year veteran.
Russ did everything they ever asked him to do.
While Seattle for sure had issues, but those losses also fall on Russ. He never threw the ball away, took pointless sacks, held the ball to long, only took deep shots. I hope he does well, it was great to have Russ on the team. Excited for the Hawks future.
I always said he never knew when to throw the ball away his biggest down fall in his game Denver will soon find out I feel like Seahawks have a bright future waiting ahead of but definitely Pete has to go
If you were only getting 20 real pass attempts per game you would be reluctant to throw the ball away too, and you would want to take more deep shots! Russ got 20 real attempts per game, and the rest were always spent trying to catch up on the 4th quarter. If the Seahawks had held more 4th quarter leads Russ would have had even fewer pass attempts.
I remember in 2018 he only threw a ridiculously low 427 pass attempts, yet he still had 35 TDs and just 7 INT’s, with a 65.6% complete rate and a 111 passer rating on the season.
Russ has never had any room for error. If he throws the ball away, his stats suck and the Seahawks lose…A lot. Russ had to take shots!
Do you know that, controlling for pass attempts, his stats were nearly identical to those of 2018 MVP Mahomes?
Plus, Russ beat the Chiefs and squarely outplayed Mahomes head-to-head that year. Yet Mahomes got the MVP.
@@awaw200 : You’re wrong, and I’ll just copy and paste my response to OP.
If you were only getting 20 real pass attempts per game you would be reluctant to throw the ball away too, and you would want to take more deep shots! Russ got 20 real attempts per game, and the rest were always spent trying to catch up on the 4th quarter. If the Seahawks had held more 4th quarter leads Russ would have had even fewer pass attempts.
I remember in 2018 he only threw a ridiculously low 427 pass attempts, yet he still had 35 TDs and just 7 INT’s, with a 65.6% complete rate and a 111 passer rating on the season.
Russ has never had any room for error. If he throws the ball away, his stats suck and the Seahawks lose…A lot. Russ had to take shots!
Do you know that, controlling for pass attempts, his stats were nearly identical to those of 2018 MVP Mahomes?
Plus, Russ beat the Chiefs and squarely outplayed Mahomes head-to-head that year. Yet Mahomes got the MVP.
@@DeCurtaRican The short game and middle game was always available to Russ. He could never seem to the see the coverage or place the ball where it needed to be in those moments. While the Seahawks reluctant play would place him in difficult positions, Russ was also one that would try and force throws he never needed to in the first place. I always never liked the take that his height was an issue, but after years of watching him I think it truly limited his ability to see other players in the open. DK's is a perfect example of this, he was open so many times and Russ would instead try and hit the WR3 that was covered up. Russ has some amazing football ahead of him, but he is becoming more limited each year with his legs and vision I think it was time for the Seahawks to move on and not pay him that money needed to keep him happy.
As much as I hate to lose Russ (former Seahawks fan) he deserves another chance at Superbowl. There's likely some shenanigans at Seahawks - it should've been Pete leaving, not Russ. I've complained about Pete playing backyard foortball in an algorithm world.
Bye Carol
As a broncos fan I see those players they traded as obsolete.
Fant isn't a difference maker. Albert O looks to have a lot more potential. Better route runner . Plus broncos have 4 receivers they need to get the ball to. Sutton jeudy Patrick and hamler so losing fant is no loss.
Shelby Harris for the hype he gets in Denver he really doesn't make an impact . Broncos were dead last In pass rush after trading Von.
Lock. Enough said.
Then there's the draft pick that would have been used on a QB so really the broncos only gave up a 1st and two 2nds for a hall of fake QB who is still one of the best QB's in the league .
Noah Fant wasn't doing to hot either this season. a couple big plays but he missed a lot of blocks that turned into sacks. plus he was dropping passes as well. I think the broncos made out pretty good all things considered.
Surprisingly I think losing Shelby Harris stings a little more than losing Fant. Shelby has been in Denver during the dark times and he was a true leader on defense. Sad to see him go. Obviously losing fant sucks too but watching Fant play has frustrated me for years. Didn't live up to his first round status, but perhaps that's directly related to the lack of QB in Denver for the last few years.
NOT ANYMORE THOUGH:)))
Agree, Shelby looks good while Fant look like regular TE. Seahawks here.
Had a hell of a run with ya Russ, thanks so much for ALL you’ve done for the city of Seattle. Hawk fans had to put up with ridiculous front office not getting you a O line the past few years. Carroll and Schneider are outdated. Look at some of the moves they’ve done after 2016. Awful. Oh well Go Seahawks eventually
Tom Brady shows not only commitment and intelligence but wisdom, unfortunately Russ lacks the wisdom to truly be great, best to let a righteous judgmental player go
@@frankbraillard6317 : Cheater Tom Brady? The guy who not only allegedly got paid under the table for years (until Robert Kraft said, “No more?”), deflated balls and is likely not even playing naturally right now?
Is that the Tom Brady you’re talking about?
Are you talking about the Tom Brady that Russ has outplayed every time Russ faced him, and who - but for one stupid play-cal - would have one less Super Bowl ring that should have been Russ’s? Is it THAT Tom Brady?
The crybaby who was so jealous and insecure that he couldn’t win with lesser talent around him that he bolted to Tampa the first chance he got?
Russ put up with mediocre surrounding cast mates for years, so that’s different.
And are you talking about JEALOUS Tom Brady who, upon learning that Bill Belichick was ready to move on to Jimmy Garoppolo, went to Robert Kraft to undermine his head coach and have Jimmy Garoppolo traded - stunting the Patriots’ recent growth?
Idk what Tom Brady you’re talking about, but the one I know of is a sniveling, cheating brat, and he is every bit as self-centered and egomaniacal as any other QB.
He married a woman who makes more money than he does, so if by chance he really was taking discounts, it’s understandable!
Miss me with the Brady sh*ts roses routine.
@@frankbraillard6317 : Russ knew what he was talking about with Pete Carroll. He wasn’t self-righteous, he wanted what every elite QB in the league has: adequate protection, an updated offensive scheme and input on the offense and personnel.
Where are all the "Fire Pete!! and Keep Russ" folks at?
Russ Will Regret
As a Seahawks fan, I wish the team had fired Carroll and kept RW. Carroll was never fair to him, never knew how to use him, and never was willing to change. Consider this: Carroll has fired 5 or more coordinators (offensive or defensive) in 10 years. This year will expose Carroll because the world will see what little he can do without relying on RW.
Wilson should've said screw Carrol and changed that goal line play to a Beast mode run and he would've had two rings.
@@tomdietz5070 : As a third-year QB, he couldn’t do that. If it didn’t work he would have been skewered.
You still feel the same way? Their draft was over the top great - showing up now - and Wilson is absolutely past his prime, evident in his play the past 7 weeks / 6 starts. Carroll protected Wilson, knew his strengths and weaknesses and played to that; Wilson is now exposed and no one to save him. People can hate all they want but Carroll is one of the best coaches in the NFL, past & present, evident by how they are playing this far.
This didn't age well
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