Wraith PRISM Vs. 360MM AIO Water Cooler for 3700X & 3900X

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  • If you are in the market for a new Ryzen 7 3700X or a Ryzen 9 3900X, whcih both come included with a Wraith Prism Cooler, then do you even need to go out and spend the extra money on say... something like a 360MM AIO Liquid Cooler? Well today we test Deepcool's New 360MM Castle which is their best in the series for Cooling (and surprisingly does a good job on cooling).
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  • @magottyk
    @magottyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    Minor correction.
    3600X which is "a Ryzen AM4 3000 CPU and it has an X" doesn't include the prism it has the spire.

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  5 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Sorry about this, I was told all the X cpus in the 3000 line up would carry the Prism, my bad.

    • @KolbotForever
      @KolbotForever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@techyescity Their website actually showed that it did. So legit reason to think it came with. Thanks for the video and info!

    • @magottyk
      @magottyk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@techyescity
      Easy mistake given that the 3600X is a 95W part while the 3700X is a 65W part. Kolbot could be right in that they did specify the prism at some point for the 3600X as I distinctly recall seeing the spire for the 3600 and not the stealth, but I could be mistaken on that.

    • @Austin1990
      @Austin1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is my concern with people recommending the 3600 with the stock cooler. It comes with the wraith stealth cooler while the 3600X comes with the wraith spire cooler. The stealth (edit: spire) is enough for the 3600X. But, when the 3600 boosts to similar performance and power draw, it could fall behind the 3600X due to thermal limits.

    • @fffabz6013
      @fffabz6013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      only ryzen 7 and + cpu get the prism cooler

  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab 5 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    These top-down coolers also give some airflow around the socket, VRMs and RAM. Especially compared to AIO there is a difference.

    • @gandharvmohan9572
      @gandharvmohan9572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Exactly my thoughts.
      Wont make a difference on high end boards but will definitely help on b450 matx budget mobos with small or no heatsinks.

    • @expresszor
      @expresszor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True :)

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You only need that additional airflow if your motherboard has a bad design. A motherboard with proper VRM's won't have any component heat up too much. To some extend it is about the quality of the components but even with bad/mediocre components like on the MSI X470 Gaming Carbon it is fine if you have enough of those components because the electrical power is spread over enough components, put a simple heatsink on it with enough fins and you have no issue at all. I quote Buildzoid: "those components are crap but if you have enough of that crap..."
      Sure, if you buy a bottom of the barrel B350/B450/X470 motherboard then that top-down cooler its airflow will help. You will spend a lot less but also have more noise. I rather have MSI, Gigabyte, Asus and ASRock not spend $20 on RGB and other decorative nonsense and put proper VRM's on it, AMD not bundle any cooler and give a $20 discount. The temperatures will be great with an aftermarket cooler, it won't cost much more and you don't have that noise!

    • @givemeajackson
      @givemeajackson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      interestingly that's not always a good thing. compared to the aio, yeah, probably still good. but when i switched from the wraith stealth to my dark rock pro 4 VRM temps on my x370-f dropped by almost 30 degrees. turns out that if you're really pushing the cooler to the limit, it spits out very warm air and actually heats up the VRM instead of cooling it down. dual tower coolers are not known for good VRM cooling. best setup would be to get an AIO or waterblock and then just zip tie a fan to the VRM heatsinks. i've reinstalled my custom loop and now have the wraith's pretty little AMD branded 92 mm fan sitting on the GPU backplate blasting the VRM heatsink with nice cool air. looks great and works great imo.

    • @SaccoBelmonte
      @SaccoBelmonte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really depends on how you mount your cooler. Mine is push pull from the top towards the motherboard and one of the fans is directly behind the top heatsink always blowing a good amount of air towards it. The air being pushed there is cooler coming from a Rad than the air coming from the wraith cooler which is probably warmer.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +528

    Next up, $3 Aliexpress cooler vs Wraith cooler!

    • @rhyzon
      @rhyzon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hell yeah.

    • @MikaelKKarlsson
      @MikaelKKarlsson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Make sure to apply the toothpaste correctly.

    • @Thesinistereyes1
      @Thesinistereyes1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i thought you said you can find a wraith cooler for 3 dollars lol

    • @z1mt0n1x2
      @z1mt0n1x2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Any cooler is better than intel stock cooler :P

    • @breakies
      @breakies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you wanna go to LTT for *that*

  • @Latinangel1000
    @Latinangel1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice review of the Ryzen cooler, some other youtubers are doing the same, but i find your explanations easier to follow, thanks, keep up the good work

  • @TechItOutBuilds
    @TechItOutBuilds 5 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I used the wraith spire personally in my build about a year ago and could still get some decent overclocking done on my 2600x, these stock CPU coolers look so aesthetically pleasing and do a decent job over keeping the CPU cool.

    • @rohanleander
      @rohanleander 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ya can't even be compared with intel cooler.

    • @cincyservice4770
      @cincyservice4770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run a wraith max on my2600x clocked at 4g all core and I come in under 70c all day.

    • @luismvg11
      @luismvg11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read that the 2600x wraith spire is better than the 3600x one, cause the last one has aluminium in its core base compared to the 2600x that has copper.

    • @blackyraypatrick9041
      @blackyraypatrick9041 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats the problem for me.... they look so cool but my ryzen 2700x is temp throttling. so i need another cooling solution, but i love the design of this cpu so much! :(

    • @blackyraypatrick9041
      @blackyraypatrick9041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Floki hard to tell you because I'm not playing destiny and it depends on CPU Load and not on the load of the PC at all.
      If you use it just on standard settings with no OC it should be OK.... Maybe you can hear something but not very loud....

  • @basti890
    @basti890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for that test like you could read my mind, you answered a very important question for my new build "Do I need an aftermarket cooling solution" *thumbs up*

  • @rinusworldzm
    @rinusworldzm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the video I was waiting for. I've been trying to see the difference between AIO coolers and air coolers for the 3900x. Thank you. Got my questions answered.

  • @hewitttt
    @hewitttt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video and all the others always come in so handy. Currently testing out a 3900x and needed some reference scores and even though this video isnt for that It sure as heck served that purpose. Thanks as always dude, you always come in so clutch in my book

  • @monham5041
    @monham5041 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Bryan.
    Thanks for the run down on the coolers. Looks like the stock cooler is pretty good if you're on a budget.
    Cheers, Mon from Brisbane.

  • @abigailpatridge2948
    @abigailpatridge2948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    You should have included a noise comparison. That's the real reason to consider an aftermarket solution after all. Of course included coolers are designed to handle the chip. But they're noisy.

    • @joshuarich6091
      @joshuarich6091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I used the prism for about a week before I went to amazon and ordered a noctua cooler. Just couldn't take the noise anymore

    • @ajayrathore8704
      @ajayrathore8704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mine doesn't make any sound

    • @lanycera
      @lanycera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ajayrathore8704 It depends on ambient temperature, and your case airflow. I have a mini ITX case, live in a tropical country, and the wraith prism had to work HARD to keep my 3900X cool - it was loud af. The NZXT X63 is in comparison silent while keeping my CPU almost 10 degrees cooler.

    • @evan9536
      @evan9536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lanycera that’s interesting, I have the wraith prism on hand and I was debating between that and an AIO I already have - the wraith just happens to look better so I want to use it. I live in Canada so temperatures are much cooler (including indoors) so it may not be a concern for me.

  • @DKCHEUNG
    @DKCHEUNG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally was thinking about this question! Thanks again Brian!!

  • @johnv3372
    @johnv3372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the value orientated view point, was really curious to see if a cooler upgrade was worth it. Thanks!

  • @BBKing-yh3gn
    @BBKing-yh3gn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bryan, great video, but sound / DB was not covered. How much RPM / DB was the Wraith Prism with the 3700X when it was at 85 celsius?

  • @Trifler500
    @Trifler500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good stuff. I've seen other sites run AIO's for an hour before running the benchmark though. Are you sure 10 minutes is enough?

  • @beanshady
    @beanshady 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciated your comment on Kev's heartfelt video. I hope he takes your advice and goes back home to regroup. You guys absolutely rock in Australia and really enjoy your content!

  • @honey6eeman
    @honey6eeman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what I was wondering about the 7. Thanks.

  • @NNHK97
    @NNHK97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you , Doctor Harrison Wells

  • @sonicjms
    @sonicjms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Not all Ryzen 3000 X processors have the prism, the 3600X has the spire

    • @JamesLee-mp2qz
      @JamesLee-mp2qz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the Spire exactly the same performance-wise as the prism, just no RGB?

    • @sonicjms
      @sonicjms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@JamesLee-mp2qz The spire is a weaker cooler, but more than enough for Ryzen 5 chips

    • @thanhdohuu9473
      @thanhdohuu9473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@JamesLee-mp2qz There is also spire cooler with RGB if you bought the 1700 or 2700 or 3600x. The Prism is a beefier cooler and more capable, there are reviews on internet showing as much as 10 degree difference between the prism and spire.
      The prism is a decent cooler that also looks good, but I'm not sure how it is going to handle the 3950x, considering that it is already struggling to keep the 3900x cool.

    • @jimmicrackhead12
      @jimmicrackhead12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy is the dopiest youtuber for computers

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Running a Mugen 5 rev b. on a 3800X. The biggest difference was CPU temps vs stock cooler with a 3800x and slight increase CPU Mhz. The other difference was the CPU Fan was not running as loud.
      I guess the Sythe 120mm fan moves more air at lower speeds. Also the rubber isolation makes a difference?
      Quiet is good.
      The included cooler does work real well on a R 5 1600 HTPC build even if I don't plug in the RGB. Note it not used for gaming, just streaming for the dumb TV I bought.
      (Cheaper to buy a bigger dumb TV than fix the old smaller smart TV) Don't tell her.
      Now the the olde lady can read her Email without the reading glasses. Yep a 55" screen is better than a 5.5" cell phone screen.
      Bonus is I don't have to share the 27" monitor with her.

  • @freedomtweezle8697
    @freedomtweezle8697 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly the analysis I was hoping to read. Thanks. Value prop on Ryzen 3 is pretty amazing. Building my first non-Intel system ever ...

  • @leorickg
    @leorickg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video. Great content. Exactly what I've been telling people for some time now.

  • @DeeG7
    @DeeG7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for testing x370 first I've seen! Amazing value potential, although hard to justify x570 with such negligible gains?

    • @DeeG7
      @DeeG7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be interesting to see a best of x370 vs b450. Would x370 have the edge for oc'ing?

    • @tonybarden8563
      @tonybarden8563 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chiriac Puiu thats the key point here BIOS , its going to have a lot to do with how the board maker uses the bios features ,it looks like the gigabyte bryan used dosnt have pbo in its bios ,whereas the crosshair has added the pbo option, at the very best without the pbo your going to spend a LOT of time trying to find the sweetness of a ryzen 3000 cpu

  • @LittleShmuplet
    @LittleShmuplet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'm really glad that AMD includes a decent stock cooler.

    • @favscripts7680
      @favscripts7680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ikr intel coolers look like they came from 2007

    • @dayspoiler4608
      @dayspoiler4608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@favscripts7680 they basically do. i can't remember them changing since about that period. the "core 2" era

    • @favscripts7680
      @favscripts7680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dayspoiler4608 yeah

    • @itzpayday1238
      @itzpayday1238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dayspoiler4608 im pretty sure they did change it, by replacing the copper heatsink with an aluminum one and making it worse LOL.

  • @pena2050
    @pena2050 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, good to hear that the Prism Cooler works well.

  • @bobbieluij
    @bobbieluij 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brian.. YOU are the man! I searched for this all over the web yesterday and could'nt find it. You are the hero man, what a cooler!

  • @wazziz
    @wazziz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    But the Coolest thing is when the yes man gives yah some good Tech Yes Lovin

  • @rhasan101010
    @rhasan101010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is suppose to be a tiny switch in Wraith PRISM cooler which could boost this cooler in a higher RPM. Did you "ON" it during your test?

  • @DrMeowster
    @DrMeowster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much. you realy are just constantly spitting out amazing content. ples dont stop.

  • @robl5027
    @robl5027 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super relevant comparison, thanks for this!
    I'll probably just use the prism if I can't stretch the budget to a custom loop (mainly for fun!).

  • @TonyTechBytes
    @TonyTechBytes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I was literally wondering the same thing if an AIO was necessary for Ryzen 3000 CPUs. Thanks for the video!

    • @CossackHD
      @CossackHD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      AIO is useless unless you can't fit a good Noctua tower in your build. Noctua is cheaper, quieter and cooler than many 360 AIOs. Arctic Freezer 33 is super good too.
      Only liquid cooling that makes sense in performance and noise is open loop for CPU and GPU, but that's pricey.

    • @Mcwrah
      @Mcwrah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CossackHD Agreed with most but, I do have a noctua nh-d15 and a kraken x72 with the new nf a12x25. Its more expensive for sure especially with those fans but I do get 5C decrease in temps compared to the nh-d15 and also the fans on my nh-d15 make a weird noise after 1.1k rpm. That said, my cooler is also quiter with those fans than nh-d15(1k rpm noctua is same loud and those fans at 1.2k rpm) but again, it was all almost 3x the price of that cooler so yeah. Not to mention these things will not last as long as air coolers for sure. For my use case the 5C makes a difference (maximum OC), but for most, don't bother with AIOs.

    • @vh9network
      @vh9network 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AIOs are better used spent on a Ryzen Threadripper.

    • @z1mt0n1x2
      @z1mt0n1x2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's nothing to wonder.
      If you're going to run a Ryzen on stock, use the stock cooler.
      If you're going to run a Ryzen overclocked, use a beefy aftermarket cooler or a water solution.
      Don't use water-AIO's tho, I had one and didn't see much improvement over a beefy air cooler, but the air cooler cooled down way much faster than water did, prolly cuz there's less mass in an air cooler.
      Besides, I prefer an air cooler that blows down on the motherboard, especially the RAM which a watercooler doesn't. So, the AMD stock coolers is not just good, but it's also good for your RAM and motherboard heatsinks, which most ppl forget.

    • @Tarrasq-Eredar
      @Tarrasq-Eredar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CossackHD I never used a aio, so I assumed they perfome better, my r5 1600@3.9 is 140watts package and Temps are 68c with arctic freezer 33tr. gaming it's mostly at 45c and it's quiet so a little confused with these temp numbers for the aio.

  • @Danmandingo
    @Danmandingo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *Looking around for a decent RGB enabled AIR cooler, for an upcoming 3900X build.*
    *Currently looking at the Cooler Master ma620p*

    • @nihalu.7886
      @nihalu.7886 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noctua U12A + Phanteks Digital Halo(s)?

    • @RusselVL-G
      @RusselVL-G 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      that ma620p cooler is hassle to install/uninstall. better find another cooler if you really want to change.

  • @hybridz35
    @hybridz35 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man was looking for comparisons with this cooler

  • @andrewosier614
    @andrewosier614 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate, was something I was pretty keen know.

  • @morantaylor
    @morantaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Just built my Ryzen 3700X system this afternoon.
    Reused my Coolermaster 240mm AIO water cooler and will keep the factory cooler just in case the AIO fails.

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would use the stock cooler of higher end cpu for my 2nd build (low end)

    • @jean3030
      @jean3030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are your temps like with that aio?

    • @morantaylor
      @morantaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jean3030 - At stock clock speed it idles at 30 °C, gaming can get up to 50°C the fans are running at low speed.
      On my old FX 8130 the board didn't control fans they used to run 100% the FX 8150 ran 18° at idle and 45° running full load overclocked to 4.4GHz
      The old CPU had nearly double the TDP of the Ryzen 125w vs 65w so should do the job.
      In summer the fan profiles may need to be tweaked for the higher ambient temperatures.

    • @TheMet4lGod
      @TheMet4lGod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm running a corsair H60 on my stock 3700X. It idles around 30-40. I get around 50-60 in WoW: Classic. If my case would hold a bigger cooler I would use one.
      The Wraith Prism weighs 1.25 pounds. I stopped using it after it sheared the top bracket peg on the motherboard.

    • @giorgioblessedbaby5213
      @giorgioblessedbaby5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey- did you find your tempetatures were better than the stock wraith cooler that the chip comes with? Thanks for tour feedback as I'm about to do my first AMD GPU build and have my sights on the 3700 too!

  • @condorado
    @condorado 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    that moment while editing when you realize you called the cooler wraith spire for the entire video😉

  • @markjenkins1217
    @markjenkins1217 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow because this is really good work! Congrats and keep it up.

  • @alirezakh739
    @alirezakh739 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this video, it was very helpful. i had this question for long time: the differences of air coolers and AIO coolers and what they can actually do with their prices. i hope you include vibration and noise tests too because inbox coolers will make loud noise and vibration.

  • @charleslo93
    @charleslo93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Please show us more B450 motherboard test for ryzen 3 processor

    • @XX-121
      @XX-121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why? they are not ideal for the 8-16 core chips.

    • @user-xx6fv4tu2q
      @user-xx6fv4tu2q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@XX-121 they are good for 8 core ...

    • @WartornNOR
      @WartornNOR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@XX-121 Which says a lot of them are good for 8 core.

    • @DBZHGWgamer
      @DBZHGWgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@XX-121 The spreadsheet you posted said most B450 motherboard can handle a 3900X stock and 3800X with significant oc. Why do people like you post sources without looking at the source *you yourself* posted? Your own source proves you wrong.

    • @katech6020
      @katech6020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@XX-121 Check hardware Unboxed they ran a 3950X on MSI B450 Tomahawk Max and it worked very well

  • @Sp3LLBouND
    @Sp3LLBouND 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    what about the noise of the prism vs the360 aio, still i will use my hyper evo 212 with dual fan half speed for not to be to loud :) nice review

    • @schoolboymafia
      @schoolboymafia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, the Wraith Spire is stupidly loud when it ramps up, I couldnt stand it so dumped it as soon as i could.

    • @MidnightBanshi
      @MidnightBanshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's small and a bit loud. If you want quiet, just get a nice aftermarket air cooler - plenty out there for good prices, like the Scythe Mugen 2 and Hyper 212 series.

  • @SamChaneyProductions
    @SamChaneyProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this. I think a lot of people go for AIO coolers because that's what everyone else is doing and they look nice, but they usually don't provide much better cooling (and in many cases even worse cooling than a good Noctua HSF cooler). Also, I don't think many people realize that "HSF" or "air" coolers usually actually have liquid refrigerant in the heat pipes that handles the brunt of the heat transfer. This refrigerant changes phase from liquid to vapor and back inside the heat pipes, and these phase changes are actually more effective at transferring heat than just pumping liquid water around. Dollar for dollar, "air" coolers almost always outperform AIO's in terms of cooling and noise.

  • @Edooo20
    @Edooo20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! I would have liked to see some avarage clockspeed during a gaming session 3700X vs 3900X

  • @OPTERON_PRIME
    @OPTERON_PRIME 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this! I wont be pressured to get a aio immediately after buying the Ryzen 7 3700x! I'll just get it when I have alot extra cash on the side XD! Yeee

    • @keptinkaos6384
      @keptinkaos6384 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you want a bit better id stick with a fan and go Noctua

  • @DeeLuxist
    @DeeLuxist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “Wraith (post-production mic) PRISMMMMMMM!” every time hahahahaha be honest did you say the wrong name all day? Great video.

  • @dizzytheghost
    @dizzytheghost 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video I was waiting for someone to do.

  • @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390
    @fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting to watch, this is what people wanna know. I'm getting bored after watching the 4th Ryzen review, but this is something other channels won't do! Nice job!

  • @MohannadJifri
    @MohannadJifri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    tbh from my personal point of view for cooling depends on type of weather u got in your country, here in middle east its always 40 C + around the year so ya AIO make a really different performance for me
    Thanks for video though

    • @OSgaming93
      @OSgaming93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree..👌

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's true! Oh dear. I bought drp4 early this year in prep for ryzen 3000

    • @MrProthall
      @MrProthall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An AiO is affected by outside temps as much as an air cooler though. AiOs use water to move heat to the fins of the radiator, but they still use air to cool the water down.

    • @mcul3474
      @mcul3474 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrProthall that's not an accurate representation. An AIO uses water to move heat to the radiator from the CPU. Water is a better medium than air in removing heat. The radiator has a greater ability to dissipate that heat than the fan alone at the CPU with it's smaller radiator (usually the case). Please avoid spreading disinformation.

  • @doleod6340
    @doleod6340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    0:11 Do this again, but next time say "IROOOOOON CHEFFFFFFAAAAAA!!!!!"

    • @SamChaneyProductions
      @SamChaneyProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noticed that too. It sounds like DC offset but it could just be that he left in a little bit of the audio clip from the onboard camera mic and it was offset slightly in time from the dedicated mic audio causing that weird distortion.

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a 3900X on the way, YES man. Excited.

  • @jorgetech_devsanmarti1026
    @jorgetech_devsanmarti1026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking for a vid like this to see if this gen AMD's had decent cooling like the previous gen. Thanks man!

    • @eugkra33
      @eugkra33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not on the 3600. The stealth cooler is too dinky. AIDA64 it thermal throttles it has

  • @cameltoeinspector6015
    @cameltoeinspector6015 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    8:24 wraith....PRISM!!!!! lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣Brian you crack me up holmes

  • @viwahe
    @viwahe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    00:10 "This... CPU COOLER..."

  • @zo-moto
    @zo-moto 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very reasonable comparison thank a bunch mate hope you doing good there down under

  • @angieagnesson0451
    @angieagnesson0451 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video with the comparisons you did and you explained things extremely clear. How were noise levels for the Wraith Prism on the 3900x? I liked the look of the Prism that came with my 2700x but the whooshy noise under load caused me to replace the cooler with a Noctua D15s which was infinitely quieter.

  • @bornsideways
    @bornsideways 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just bought the 3800X against all odds and reviews and I couldn't be happier! It idles between 4350-4550mhz on all cores with the stock cooler and stock settings.
    It was only 30$ more than the 3700X so I went for it and it is imho the best AMD cpu (for gaming) out there as it tops the 3900X clocks easily :)

    • @giorgioblessedbaby5213
      @giorgioblessedbaby5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah- that made me even happy to see! ; I'm about to go for my first AMD system and your feedback is indeed important!- what mobo do you use/recommend, and if you are overclocking then how much AND what/how does the wraith cooler perform vs the increased power to again whatever ghz you are running at???
      Thanks dude!

    • @bornsideways
      @bornsideways 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@giorgioblessedbaby5213 Don't skimp on the mobo, you want a X570 to bring out the most out of this bad boy! I personally have not manually overclocked the 3800X as there really is not point doing that (yet). Just make sure to flash your BIOS to the latest version as that made a huge performance difference for me and select the auto boost to level 3.

    • @giorgioblessedbaby5213
      @giorgioblessedbaby5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bornsideways Sounds awesome!! No driver issues?- or Nvidea GPU..? I've been w Nvidea 680Sli mobo w Intel duo@ 2.13 for EVER- it fried a few months ago and now after many many hrs of Paul,J2cents,Steve from Gamers Nexus and the odd "others" I'm like holy sh*t!!! No wonder I couldn't even get on the flipping internet anymore!! Lol.
      I'm finishing engineering,have 1 patent and many in my head/minds eye, also love I.T. (dad was NASA and in elementary school I had the best"shiw and tell" lol- even a circular uncut wafer from silicon valley with all the chips lasered/etched in!!!!!
      I've stories upon stories and they are all AEWSOME!
      Thanks for your help btw!!! I'm thinking a 3700 but in a couple weeks perhaps a 3800x like you, but what 570mobo is best? And since the ludicrous IDIOCY of companies not prgrmng w SLi compatability- all that immense piwer on the table is totally wasted while waiting!
      Gamers Nexus did a big benchmark test whith MANY GPU's and included 2 GPU's in SLi- i think they were Nvidea 1050's, but the point is the results were the two very low-end Sli'd cards OUTPERFORMED on EVERY TEST INCLUDING GAMES and it was incredibke to seebthe numbers how greatb that SLi tech is.... Hell that's like nobody programming fir multi core CPU's !!! It's plain beyond DUMB!!!
      SO KEEP SPREADING THAT FACT BRO!!!
      Also; you say 570 mobo but which is tested to be the best for AMD? I agree with you on the not necassary to overclock(as you CPU kicks ass) however it's fun to play- we payed so why not? Isn't there like a "switch" to have more than one setting or profile as far as components being ramped up?
      Right- so what is your advice on which mobo and GPU? I've the same old monitor with the HDMI port I'll probably be using so I can have a better CPU GPU MOBO RAM STORAGE PSU etc.
      Sorry for the book here, but I'm stoked to get this next system- I'll probably have NZXT put it together as I dont have internet nor a working computer to do the SERIOUS END WORK of drivers and OS loading and bios updating eyc etc.
      Thanks again for your time and very very helpful advice as you literally are helping an entire fam bro!
      Thanks again!!!

    • @bornsideways
      @bornsideways 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giorgioblessedbaby5213 Hey man, glad I could help :) And yea, real shame on the missing SLI support! I'm also using NVIDIA and it works perfectly, no driver problems at all.

  • @mnkybndit
    @mnkybndit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lookin a bit rough there Yes Man. I'm guessing you've had a few big nights on the benchmark sauce?

    • @TheWunder
      @TheWunder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meth binge

  • @SmokinGoodd420
    @SmokinGoodd420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Awesome Stuff Showin some tech yes lovin!* Love your channel man!

  • @SWEJmeister
    @SWEJmeister 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome zen2 content so far Bryan!

  • @freddyfredrickson
    @freddyfredrickson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The biggest difference is that on average, if you can keep you CPU cooler, it will last longer before it fails.

  • @jonathanraecrisanto5912
    @jonathanraecrisanto5912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine a 3600 with a Wraith Prism

  • @carmelocabezo6757
    @carmelocabezo6757 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for doing this comparison. I'm looking at getting a 3700x and not planning to overclock, so it looks like I can use the money I was going to spend on an AIO and put it toward something else.

  • @Wicket_78
    @Wicket_78 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was perfect since I am looking at a 3900x and the deepcool 360.

  • @kunalduggal781
    @kunalduggal781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    im waiting on the 3950x myself, but cool vid

    • @kunalduggal781
      @kunalduggal781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Charlie Brown i have a custom loop, so no problemo

    • @kunalduggal781
      @kunalduggal781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Klust413 it'll be my workstation and gaming aio. i run a lot of cad, due to my job

  • @dragonheart1335
    @dragonheart1335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Man, I wish TH-cam had other options than 360p

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Looks like you're early to the Tech YES Party!

    • @dragonheart1335
      @dragonheart1335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarcoGPUtuber gotta give that Tech YES loving!

    • @WayneWatson1
      @WayneWatson1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This happens on most videos when they are first released on TH-cam, at least every channel I ever watched. It's a way to keep them from getting slammed in bandwidth when a video first comes out.

    • @timserious7678
      @timserious7678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I prefer 144p , so crispy

    • @dchilo
      @dchilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WayneWatson1 r/whoosh

  • @supershafik
    @supershafik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes man knows what we like to see another great video, thank u

  • @vortensis
    @vortensis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful!, was weighing up my first water cooling setup on my new build, but I'll stick to air cooling if its this good.

  • @jaydub8576
    @jaydub8576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would very much like to see a three way battle between the stock wraith cooler, a typical $35 tower style 120mm air cooler, and a typical $70 120mm aio liquid cooler. From the data in this video, I don't think there would be much difference in fps. However, I believe that having lower temps, over time, will extend the lifespan of the cpu.

    • @tgdhsuk3589
      @tgdhsuk3589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you use an aio then "typical" would be 240mm

    • @jaydub8576
      @jaydub8576 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tgdhsuk3589 I think there are plenty of ppl out there using a h60. 120's gets the job done without breaking the bank. I just wanted to know if you really need to spend $150 on a 360 rad to get the temps down around 80 rather than 90 C. 4:31

  • @fevbarton3617
    @fevbarton3617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I`m using this cooler on a 2400G with the speed switch turned to High...max temps on games are 43C!

    • @JM-ir8lw
      @JM-ir8lw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost matches the frames you get as well.

  • @alwaysforwardyt
    @alwaysforwardyt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting testing. Thanks and regards from London.

  • @wundyboy
    @wundyboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video mate, well picked! ...so it is obvious - the new Ryzen package kicks ass!!!

  • @dose2two
    @dose2two 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man honestly this review should be 2 minutes long. All I care about when I'm looking at a cooler is the decibel level and the temperature. I dont know why you bother with the clock speed since theres no noticable difference.

    • @Quija_Bored
      @Quija_Bored 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then dont watch the vid. This isnt ur youtube channel, its his

    • @lanycera
      @lanycera 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the Noctua fan if you want a silent build, or NZXT X63 or similar. The stock coolers are loud if they need they need to cool your CPU down. My AIO is in comparison to wraith prism much quieter, while keeping the temps almost 10 degrees lower. I've heard great stuff about the Noctua air cooler though, I just can't fit it in my case.

  • @RymeofDawn
    @RymeofDawn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    360p gang :)

  • @lowbambam3398
    @lowbambam3398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was VERY helpful thank you so much!

  • @matthewstoch8670
    @matthewstoch8670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tests. Thanks man

  • @ZeppelinEXAhmed
    @ZeppelinEXAhmed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    360p Nightmare is back , again.

    • @FullBallPerformance
      @FullBallPerformance 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're a bit too early for that tech yes lovin mate

    • @ZeppelinEXAhmed
      @ZeppelinEXAhmed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FullBallPerformance , Yes Mate.

    • @NZMOPAR
      @NZMOPAR 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      all videos do this for the first few mins after being uploaded

    • @ZeppelinEXAhmed
      @ZeppelinEXAhmed 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NZMOPAR , I know that but TH-cam should render the 1080 p first then the rest of the p.

  • @MrEricmopar
    @MrEricmopar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    AIOs are one of the biggest scams in PCs in years. If you heat soak them for 2 hours with the CPU loaded by something like Prime 95, to see what the real temps will be, they rarely out perform a good air cooler like a Noctua or Be Quiet 140mm cooler, even the better 120mm air coolers for that matter.
    AIOs are also noisy.
    I thought by now, almost everybody would know the quirks of liquid coolers. IE you can't test for 10 minutes and get the true temp like a air cooler.
    You have to load and heat soak all that liquid to do it right and that takes quite awhile.
    Liquid coolers need fluid replacement, do spring leaks more often that the companies want to admit and cost more.
    Even my cheap ass Cooler Master Evo 212 keeps my i7 7700k at 59°c under full load with Prime 95. That's considerable room for a sizable OC if I wanted to, and the nice 140mm coolers out there perform even better than that, with no leaks, noise or getting in the way of servicing and cleaning a PC.

    • @billythecat
      @billythecat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the things I like about AIO coolers is that I can put the rad in the front of my case so it can be cooled with air from outside. Most gpu's these days have their coolers exhaust hot air inside the case and air coolers are soaked in that which in my experience, results in worse temp than AIO. It's funny because making it easier to see and clean my components was also why I chose AIO over airs. Never had noise with any air or aio cooler

  • @shooks555
    @shooks555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video but I'm surprised you didn't mention the noise this little buzz saw makes. Also the Prism has a high and low fan speed switch on it, which was yours set on during testing? I think it's an ok cooler that looks great but found it to be way to loud even on the low fan setting, I ended up replacing mine with a Noctua NH-D15 for my 2700X

  • @cootason
    @cootason 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate for another great video as always.

  • @paalosordoni7932
    @paalosordoni7932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always interesting stuff on this channel :)

  • @ajsludge
    @ajsludge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see the stock cooler is decent. I was going to bring theCryorig H5 Ultimate over from my 4690k to the 3700X but it seems the Cryorig AM4 adaptor kits are impossible to find :(

  • @cakeisalie
    @cakeisalie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you! I was having the exact same dilemma when I bought my 3700X yesterday
    my friend's trying to sell me a used NZXT Kraken x62 for cheap, might go with that one

    • @Antside
      @Antside 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love that pfp

  • @xXOctan3Xx
    @xXOctan3Xx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you be able to revisit this test after any overclock-changing BIOS updates take effect?

  • @L0rd_0f_War
    @L0rd_0f_War 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome testing. Please test all the different stock coolers for the new AMD CPUs (specially for the R5s). Thanks.

  • @tonybarden8563
    @tonybarden8563 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT CONTENT subject bryan , tests and data like this are very useful for the community

  • @viller7939
    @viller7939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are the sound levels in the wraith prism compared to bigger aftermarket coolers with 140mm fans?

  • @jaimesantos3568
    @jaimesantos3568 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I am sure the TechYes Citizens would love to see the B350 square up with the X570 too?

  • @tobiass4225
    @tobiass4225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking of picking one of the fans up for my 3600, I don’t know how to OC, or what I’d gain from it, but this fan is one of the nicer looking air coolers I’ve seen

  • @deminybs
    @deminybs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tech YES City: which previous DeepCool AIO's did you use that you thought were mediocre? i currently have the captain 240ex by deepcool in white, under every stress test i've tried it never passes 68c on my 2700x @4.1GHZ @ 1.39v . idle sits high 20's low 30's and most games barely go over 50c

  • @Agenda-zt6dj
    @Agenda-zt6dj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video my friend!! I wonder about drivers for the MB chipset & micro code for the CPU? Will future driver updates help the performance & cooling in any way? New CPU's & chipsets sometimes fare better when a more mature driver set is available! Just thinking out loud!! :)

  • @SaurabhSharma2804
    @SaurabhSharma2804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would depend a lot on the ambient temperature too.

  • @badejong
    @badejong 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Do you have a B450 MB laying somewhere that you can test with the new Ryzens?

  • @eddieU
    @eddieU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the video I'm building my first PC with a 3900x and I'm trying to avoid using an AIO just in fear of it dying or leaking on my $2500 build. I bought the Cooler Master MasterAir Ma620m but it's just enormous. I'm going to try the stock cooler and see how it handles with my build and determine whether I keep the Monster Air cooler or go AIO.

  • @justsomegamer2285
    @justsomegamer2285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bryan, would you recommended Cooler master 212 hyper led over the wraith prism cooler? prism are very nicely looking but also loud coolers.

  • @coolronz
    @coolronz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for showing us the sustained allcore default clocks, thats mainly what i was here for. i would love to know what all the 3000 line up clock in at with PBO enabled, because the best case scenario advertised clocks AMD gives us are completely out to lunch.... lol

  • @summoner1451
    @summoner1451 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went with the B450 Tomahawk and the 3700x. I hope that i don't end up regretting it, since there seems to be a lot of bios issues with the Tomahawk. I couldn't pass up $99 for a MB though that has a great VRM heatsink.

  • @uBm3d
    @uBm3d 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there, Brian - out of curiosity, did you run the prism on low or high setting ( the switch) as with the high setting (3000+ rpm), this cooler gets a descent cooling, but can be more than loud. Apart from it's beautifull RGB it could be too loud for many users. Also, it would be nice to know how high the temps where after a 2 hour gaming session vs a 360 rad.

  • @chocolat4hogs
    @chocolat4hogs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You put things into perspective. Thanks

  • @XX-121
    @XX-121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should update this test with the new agesa microcode. prob makes a difference now.

  • @steverolfeca
    @steverolfeca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just completed an X-570 build with a 3800X, and I decided to try fitting the Corsair R200 case with 3 extra PWM fans (2 140’s and a 120). It runs very quiet with the Prism, and I’ve been unable to push the temps over 67deg C on any benchmark. Seems like a more cost-effective option than a water cooler, and potentially more reliable in the long term.

  • @Flamamacue
    @Flamamacue 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I regret getting an aftermarket cooler for my 1700 build a few years ago. Went with a Hyper 212 and the heatsink is too big to fill all 4 ram slots, should have just stuck with the stock cooler to begin with and had similar performance! Will be moving to 3900X and probably sticking with the Prism

  • @meemattt
    @meemattt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how'd you get control over the RGB on the cooler though?

  • @owisun85
    @owisun85 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the test i wanted ! Yes yes man!