[RARE ATC] INCOMPETENT PILOT DRIVES ATC CRAZY!!!
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That ground controller deserves a medal for his patience.
They should call in his flight instructor and play this tape for him.
Rata 4U that’s the smartest dumb thing I’ve heard recently
Yeah, how the hell did that pilot pass his check ride and stuff?!
In my opinion, as a civilian, that pilot is not ready to fly. I also think that flying is not only about the pilots ability to steer the plane, but also to be able to communicate properly. What would of happen if, let's say, equipment malfunctioned, for instance, GPS?
He might be getting a call from the destination's controller, haha. - "Why did you send me this PITA??"
The only question missing from ground controller was, "Is your flight instructor available?"
I wish so badly that had happened. They both seemed like very nice guys so I wonder how the pilot would've reacted.
lol
🤷🏿♂
hes down in spruce creek waiting on me over....does this thing have enough fuel to get there nonstop...over?
@@johnbaxster8010
The atc I feel sorry for is in the control centers between the departure and arrival points. This was just the clearance. The actual flying part will be much harder.
I knew we were in for a headache when he ended every transmission with "over."
Over.
Jacob,
It could have been worse, he could have said
"...sssh, Over."
The best part is he ended the sentence with ”over”, and then continued 😂
@@albovell could have said over, roger and Wilco.
a few times the over came before he was done talking
Legend says, N530JP is still on that airport trying to figure out what to do...
@N578MD STOP
TKI is my home airport and I can confirm that I have never seen him so who knows
N530JP : "Is my readback correct ?"
ATC : "wait there"
He actually gave up flying and owns the diner at the airport now. photos-e1.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/47e97591507257d1d9e6097591762b68feae1a28
The fact this guy has an intrument rating is insane
After all that, "request departure off runway 18". I nearly died.
And the poor, patient controller's sigh in response. It spoke more than the whole conversation.
@@AmyAnnLand Because he knew he was going to have to go over new departure instructions several times.
As if he was trolling them.
so did the controller...
This was the moment when I lost it 😂
if you listen closely to you can hear the controller's soul slowly leaving his body
.... BEST COMMENT....
"JP, your flight clearance has been cancelled until you get an actual pilot into the cockpit, ATC over."
Lol
Classic comment 👍👍
"Departure clearance cancelled please taxi to the GA Apron, I have the number of a flight school I want you to call to get your pilot license"
Copy that, WillCo… over.
“Equipment?”
“Quitman.”
“Kickmen?”
“Quitman.”
“Sickmen?”
“Quitman.”
“Clickban?”
“Quitman.”
Hilarious!
“What’s your vector, Victor?”
Flying solo to soldo in slo-mo
gvc76 “we have clearance, Clarence.”
lickmen?
"Equipment departure"
Oh God help us all...
Fubar AlAkbar so-lo........had me laughing
He should have saved atc some frustration and departed the equipment before he tried to get clearance to taxi.
i watched my engine take off without me, i wonder if it'll ever come back for me?
OVER
To be fair, it did easily sound like Equipment and maybe ATC should have done phonetic on that name. Pilot eventually must have seen it on his chart.
As soon as I saw "Quitman" on the captions I just knew it was about to get really messy lol
ATC has the patience of a saint.
Indeed.
I felt that the Controller was excellent, he didn't show sarcasm or get grumpy as the New Yorker ATC always seem to do However, having said that,Air Traffic Control is the poor man of aviation, shortage of staff, long hours, poor pay and yet everyone grumbles, the airline business is cut throat, money before anything else, time is money, hence the rush for clearences.Airline Pilots,especially the cheaper Airlines push their crews to maximum hours, take risks, and one aspect alone is the burn up of fuel whilst hanging around the hard standing,waiting for a push back, all told Airline operation and its affiliate controls are highly complex and the layman has no chance of ever understanding what really happens in the business. I would hope that people take sympathy and empathy with these guys, whose woraday task is somewhat tougher than managing a business or serving drinks.
Terry Offord it's a shame in a the early years of your career in the aviation the pay and hours are usually considerably poor.
Terry Offord is it really the case in the us? in europe atc personnel are payed very, very well.
Amen to that!
Mooney: "ok, now that you've solved my problem I'd like to create another one"
"Uhhh Tower 5 3 0 Juniper Poptart....change of plans...can I just yeet it off taxiway bravo....fly the 3000 radial for the Equipment Departure. Expect Han Solo niner minutes after departure. Over and out Juniper Poptart"
@@geraldmartsy2165 I'm sitting here reading your comment and actually crying tears of laughter. Thank you. Juniper Poptart, Over.
ATC: *"I have a number for you to call, but you wouldn't write that down or remember it either!"*
@The Boeing Kid :)
Ya'now what? Will give ya a private frequency to do the call, as you seem to be able to remember frequencies! Over!
This has to be the nicest controller i ever heard, he had some patience.
You mean he had a whale of a patience.
If he were in San Juan he would have been torn to pieces😂.
Kudos to the ATC! HE IS A KEEPER. He was very professional, patient, no arrogance, helpful.
He definitely went above and beyond what I would expect. My guess is this wasn't a very busy airport as I wouldn't expect the ATC to take that much time with a pilot that was clearly having trouble with the basics of getting underway.
Nailed it!👍🏿
Sounded like his hearing was the problem! Soldo and Quitman had him thrown.
Agreed. One of the good guys, for sure.
The ATC dude is literally doing an whole IFR course for this idiot of a pilot LOL
Now that I spent 10 minutes understanding my departure instructions, can I go ahead and invalidate those instructions and take off in the other direction? Thanks. Over.
Felt like I was watching the opening scenario of an Aircrash Investigations episode.
The "Idiot In The Air" episode?
"Solo. Han-Solo."
"No, that's not right!"
You don't know how hard I looked for errors in your spelling.
well, he's liviing up to his name.....rare occurrence :D
I heard "from so-lo"
I find it more likely that the 'Han' part was simply a memory aid he was using to recall information.
+Erynn Collier Good observation, personally I think pen and paper are a bit better memory aid :d
After watching this, I asked my wife to grab a pen, listen to what I say, and read it back to me. She nailed it on her first try.
I believe this guy didn't even have a pen.
Over.
thats funny, over
Did she include the equiptment departure? Over
Yeah, I know for myself when I fly, I would write everything down as much as I can. So that if I miss anything, I can go back and verify. After all, that's what the readback is about, too.
yup yup. She got it all. Over.
Crying at this comment
The moment he says ,,Over” you know this is gonna be a difficult one.
"Uh... (Deep sigh)"
*I felt that.*
its unbeliveable how a pilot can be actually sitting in an aircraft with this devastating level of unpreparedness.
why not tell him to call this phone number for pizza so he takes off with some food? (um, not that number).
Sir, I have a number for you to call... uhh I think its your wife.
He doesn't even know how to use the radio, over.
@Rata 4U Roger that, over.
He’s a great orthopedic surgeon though
"Mooney 30JP, you are cleared to your living room easy chair via own navigation. Please advise FAA upon arrival..."
This one cracked me up, over
Lmfao, I laughed for 5 minutes straight reading this comment. Best laugh Ive had in months
05:15 That great moment of silence & deep sigh from the ATC when he asked for Rwy 18 🤣🤣🤣
Never heard “over” used while talking to atc before
"Heading uhh 3,000"
I don't think a compass goes to 3,000...
Maybe it does in whatever parallel universe this guys head was in when he should have been listening to the instructions.
If you take 300 and add another zero it does XD
if it belongs to Chuck Norris it does #crapchucknorrisjokes
It's 120 degrees after an 8-fold shuriken maneuver.
@M. Katze It's the new math.
After all of that and he has the balls to ask for a particular runway
Perhaps he was looking for a grass strip but couldn't find one.
"Flying radar vectors to the Kessel run departure over Leia via Solo then direct transition.
Expecting less than 12 parsecs.
Over."
"Readback correct, send it!"
"Hyacyinth, this is Daisey. Daddy's got out again. He's got his bomber jacket and helmet on and said he's heading to the airport..."
Lol. That's what you get when you put a 'Bucket' in a plane...
@Tmanaz480 Very good!
@@Ayeshteni it’s bouquet.
Best use of a “Keeping Up Appearances” quote ever 😂
Ohhh Daddy! Still bravely facing the Luftwaffe after all these years!
Seems like after a minute of this they should concentrate on helping him park the airplane.
Sounds about right
Here is what happens when a conversation like this takes place in the air: The supervisor stands behind the controller. If the pilot asks for a change, like a direct routing, the answer will be "Unable at this time."
It's also possible that this was a training flight. In that case, if the CFII was earning her money, she would sit quietly, prepared to save the day if there was true danger. This guy was still on the ground. There was no immediate danger. Incipient danger, but none yet realized.
Robert Hadow Not to mention, better to sort it out on the ground. All these people shitting on him isn’t encouraging anyone else unsure of what they’re doing, and much better to admit that then pretend. Especially if it was training that makes sense, except then he certainly should have had a notepad out and had no problem at least copying it. I guess the quitman thing knocked him off, but why not just ask for a spelling? Still, I guess you gotta learn somehow..
LOL you're right!
Pretty sure training flights dont go across 5 states
Every time he said "over" I wanted to punch something
I wondered, how he got his Aeronautical Flight Radio Certificate in the 1st place.
There is no radio operators license
required for domestic US flights
He said So-lo then he said HAN SOLO! 3:52-57
(face palm)... no that's not right
I caught that hans solo myself, I guess he was watching star wars the night before.
That voice crack when saying "QUITman VOR" is priceless @3:51"
This controller has more patience than I’ve had in my entire life.
So painful to listen to.. Rule number 1 of IFR clearance... Listen and write and DO NOT THINK! Just write what he tells you... Then read back exactly what you wrote. Then pull out your charts and GPS and plug in those instructions. If anything doesn't make sense, call back and ask...
I agree. Rule number one LISTEN AND WRITE THEN READ BACK
Greetings
Ahem. I would also suggest knowing how to do it without your GPS (Provided you have the right Quitman... errr, equipment).
The ATC is also wrong!! He gave instructions that were too long!! Instructions like that must be given in a paused way.
+pgraquel I actually disagree... The onus is on the pilot to be paying attention and to be ready. The controller was very, very patient with someone who was obviously not prepared for his flight.
I would do that, even for VFR.
is ATC allowed to just say "listen dude, you're too dumb to fly" and ground him?
Other comments I have read have said that they indeed could have but that that particular controller is beyond patient and used to new flyers asking questions (commenter apparently flies out of airport and knows that ATC controller)
Kennedy Steve would have
They don’t have to issue him a clearance or allow him to taxi, or clear him to takeoff. So yes lol
yes, but then they have to deal with him on the ground.
@@Mostlyharmless1985 Dealing with an idiot on the ground is better than dealing with a hazard in the air.
And after all of that fiasco, the pilot says, 'Can I get the opposite runway?" OMG
No. Winds were VARIABLE and i guess it was at 4kts when he said it. So that IS doable. I took off with an airplane behind me departing the opposite direction once in similar conditions + when the traffic was really heavy at the hold short points. Excuse my English.
Not that big of a deal. The SID is flyable with the opposite runway
@@AbdulazizAlmawash Did they get rid of that departure there? I can't find it anymore
@@Matt-ox2qc from your previous comment i’m assuming you’re talking instrument stuff, we were all flying VFR (student pilots)
@@Matt-ox2qc and before you get confused i was talking in general + my experience at KSLN airport, not the one in the video
Wow, the concern in his voice when he asks "you sure, you got an understanding of this?". Well done, kept his calm and was focused on safety only.
I was waiting for the punch line at the end, "Oh, I'm VFR only can you give me compass headings instead?"
I would have told that pilot to "hold for a breathalyzer..."
then you could have just taken off with no declared route?
That would be an equipment departure
Before I received my first real departure clearance, I listened to a ton of them and practiced writing and reading them back. Since you don't need an airplane to get good at clearances, there was little excuse for this guy to be confused by the very simple and standard clearance he was given.
Literally play VATSIM or MFS for a few weeks and you'll be nailing it irl lmao this guy is pathetic
He would be shocked to learn you don’t need an airplane to practice writing down clearances 😅
This feels like a training exercise for safety critical communications.
Even though it was frustrating at least ground took the time to straight it out.
OK! Lets get those flying cars to the masses!
I would have held him on the ground and sent him back to the shack to file a plan in person till he knows it cold. I'm not entirely convinced this guy had all his marbles in one bag. Is there a bar at that airport?
+deltavee2 Nope...but it IS just northeast of DFW airport an Dallas love field...so it's comforting to know that a clown like this is flying around the corridor full of arriving passenger jets into the DFW area.
hahahahahh fly runway heading to 3000 expect vector brain fart direct closest eval center final clearance approved.
I got the impression he was just elderly, and doesn't fly much. I don't even understand how he's current, what with his predilection for saying "over", along with so many of his other shortcomings.
@@HalfShelli not that far fetched to think he doesn't have a license
ATC was just making sure he understood the departure procedure. They are there to help pilots not get angry, and he definitely didn’t seem angry. If anything the controller sounded very helpful with him slowing down to clarify how to fly the procedure , what radial to intercept and where to transition VORs.
Only thing that would’ve probably been a little frustrating is once the pilot finally understood the departure he requests a different runway and would’ve received new instructions 😂
Hi, recently retired ATC weighing in here. I'm not going to pretend that it's easy to do, but there is nothing to be gained by losing your temper/patience with a pilot, so you work like hell to not do that. Everybody's new at their job at some point, everybody has bad days, the key thing is to be calm, keep your head, maintain communication and work towards a shared understanding.
That being said ... this ... this was something else.
I wanted to be a commercial pilot but this is one of the things that scares me off with being one. Following instructions while flying from ATC scares me lol. Ive been trying to practice and I couldn’t understand what you guys were saying 😢
Something else indeed. I have never flown an IFR route, yet I could understand perfectly what the instructions were. This guy clearly thought he was a hotshot and could recite the clearance from memory and failed. Write it down! I would not have let him take off until he read back correctly - as I had to do as a VFR pilot. I should look up the tail number to see if he made his destination and how many problems he created on the way. Oh yeah. The change to 18... priceless.
Shouldn't be holding an Instrument Rating if you ask me. That was horrible.
Sounds like he's not instrument rated at all. Who keeps saying "over" on the radio after completing IR training?
*****
Exactly. It's all very dodgy... unless it's a fake.
Ive heard before theres a great deal of pilots operating IFR and IFR procedures without the IFR rating as in its common but because ATC has no way to check pilot ratings or equipment its never questioned
111himan
One thing is to use a radial every now and then or get too close to IMC, and a whole different one is to change to IFR in flight or even request an IFR approach. A non instrument rated pilot should not do any of those things, but especially the second one, as the workload will just be too much for him.
I’ve never figured out why ATC, under conditions like these, doesn’t ask these pilots if they’re rated IFR.
I want to get my private pilots license in the future but situations like this scare me haha, the guy had no clue what was going on, I just can't imagine what I would do if I were in his shoes. ATC was extremely patient though, kudos to him
If you're ready and prepared, you shouldn't have any problems! :)
Thats the problem is he did not know. This is a non issue to a properly trained pilot and all this covered in training. This guy I can bet was faking being IFR trained or hasn't done it in decades.
^ exactly
I feel the same way. I've always wanted to learn how to fly and took a few lessons in the past, but this seems super complicated. And why does everything need to be done via audio. Arent there newer systems that can transmit the necessary coordinates digitally? I watched one video of a Saudi pilot who literally needed to be told a 4 digit number 10 times before he got it right. Its kinda disconcerting.
This is for an instrument departure procedure.. private pilots wouldn't get a clearance like this unless it was under certain circumstances, even then it wouldn't be like this. If the pilot in the video used the acronym CRAFT, for : clearance limit, routing, altitude , frequency, transponder (code) then it would of made that radio call a lot easier
He should never have cleared this lunatic.
That’s not his job
I feel like I just had a root canal without Novocaine.
That controller had some SERIOUS PATIENCE!!!!! GOD BLESS HIM!
I think the pilot was hard of hearing... "Quitman" becomes "Equipment" "SOLDO" become "SOLO"
If he's unfamiliar with the area (maybe he's returning cross country?) then the tower freq and the departure might have been too much for him to research...
I will admit that debating about WHAT the Hubbard departure comprises was pointless.
I'm picturing a silver haired guy with a paunch and a red complexion wearing a white polo shirt who is totally unprepared to order at fast food restaurants. You know the guy...
He should have checked the charts
I hope the pilot sobered up by the time he reached his destination
I want what ever this controller is smoking to stay this calm.
I'd bet money he never had a chart in his lap at all...
That probably wouldn't have had the departure procedure though. He really needed to have that in front of him.
Sounds like he was planning on using Google maps, seriously.
It cant hurt to keep him on the ground till he completely understands. The ATC we work with makes sure you have everything down to the maintain runway heading after departure.
My CFI was a ex Navy Combat Pilot, and he taught me well. I hate to think waht he would do with a guy like this...
I just think he doesn't have a pen and paper, he's trying to memorize everything.
After all that and then he asks for a different runway with a whole new set of departure instructions.
LOL. that is the most patient ATC guy in the world; he's a gem. When the pilot asks for 18, the ATC nearly fainted, but really held his composure. Love that guy.
"N530JP, I'll take the bus instead"
@@jeanmarco40over
fortunately they were on McKinney Airport, not on JFK hahaha!
+Francisco Figueroa Mckinney is just northeast of DFW and Love field - quite a few commercial operations in that airspace
That's just what I was thinking. The atc handling this guy had to be the nicest, most patient atc I've every experienced. I doubt this pilot had an instrument rating. Even so, he had an awfully sweet ride.
for sure!
He'd be grounded at JFK for that kinda radio misunderstanding until they sorted it out
I would just LOVE to hear this guy get his clearance from JFK Steve. Except I LOVE listening to JFK Steve and he would literally have a stroke with this one!
I feel for both of them. ATC had the patience of a saint.
I learned to read a chart faster than this guy did, with this, and I’ve never seen a departure chart before
Perhaps the fact that you had the ATC transcript and correct departure chart with the route highlighted in red served in front of you had something to do with that.. But by all means, continue patting yourself on the back...
Did he make it or is he still up there somewhere ? :)
+Techy Las After more than 5 hours on his Mooney... they reached destination :S
+VASAviation - Keep up the great vids I love them :)
Techy Las
Thanks a lot for your words! I definitely will!! :D
Hahahaha!!!!!
oh my goodness this comment made me bust out laughing
This was painful to listen to. I think the controller did an excellent job trying to help the guy out but some people are just not prepared. Before every IFR (or VFR) flight one must be fully familiar with all procedures, no need to memorize things but be aware of the DPs STARs and some of the fixes and VORs along the route. This way everyone's work is efficient. This guy used so much ATC time he should be sent a bill. ATC is not there to teach you things, they are there to help out and organize everything. I sure hope this guy learned from this experience.
His instructor probably should spend some more time with him.
That and he's certified to kill himself in IMC. That's the kicker.
Niko's Wings or just file "No DP"
Zachary W or he's just new and nervous. I get it's a big thing to be judgmental and self-righteous. I take a "I hope that's never me" kind of approach. So many people never consider how difficult it can be at times when you're at a new airport. I've flown at airports across the country from Reid-Hillview (SFO / SJC) to Van Nuys (LAX) to Addison (DFW TX) to Oshkosh and Appleton WI. All different and all of them have some "local knowledge" truly required to not sound like an idiot. For example when you're flying out of RHV you have to know that if you're taking someone on the "Bay Tour" that they're going to want you to cross SJC (Mineta) over the center of the runway or that at VNY you're not only going to be under the umbrella and not turning before the treatment facility but also that heading east to the practice area between the "mountains", or if you're up in Napa you're going to be pretty much free as long as you don't interrupt the winery tours, or that in Addison you'll be vectored out and in (even VFR) by tower since they fly departures out at one altitude and arrivals at a different one, but not VFR standard because they don't care about ONE mnemonic.
So let's all take a step back and realize we aren't perfect and maybe he was just having a crappy day.
No. The point is he's CERTIFIED to file IFR. That means approaches to minimums, navigation solely by instruments, etc. That's a big deal. The point is it's apparent he doesn't understand the system he is using. I'm an airline pilot based in DFW. I semi-regularly experience a new airport, but the system I'm using is the same everywhere with minor nuances. I understand the structure, and I understood the structure the day my instructor endorsed me to take my instrument ride 10 years ago. This guy doesn't have a plate handy. He took no time going over the DPs before he filed GPS Direct. He learned the hard way that GPS Direct isn't a given in a busy terminal area. I want to reiterate: This guy is certified to fly unknowing passengers into inclement weather and doesn't grasp the idea of a very, very simple SID. It doesn't take local knowledge to open the charts and glance at the DPs of the airport you're departing.
5:02 The squak and the frequency reversed is the same !😆
We all can read lol
3:52 "So-lo... Han Solo" hahahahhahahahha
I just heard that 🤣😂
Kudos to the ATC, the patience and instructions are spelled out clearly. Respect level 9999
Thanks for the video, this flight can still be tracked from flightaware and the registration info are public too: N530JP is a Mooney M20M equipped with a TIO-540 SER engine, by compare these data with M20 POH/AFM, we can get many interesting fact about this flight, also a very good case study for both VFR and IFR pilots. With 89 gallons usable fuel and filed 185 knots, at 9000ft, he's planning to fly at best power 34/3400, if not modified the airplane endurance will be just about 5 hours, and he was in the air for 5 hours, clearly very hard to satisfy the alternate+45min rule under IFR, plus unfamiliar with SIDs, unable to understand and copy ATC clearance, poor planning, these combination can leads to serious accidents
Well said, it goes in to all aspects of the flight too, especially if he's planning to land and ATC changes his route, no telling what could happen or be misunderstood, I think they should have kept him grounded till someone spoke to him on the phone or something and verified what he was really asking for
you assume an alternate was required...that might not be the case.
coma13794 it’s required for instrument flight planning to have enough fuel to reach an alternate and 45 minutes of reserve in daylight hours I believe. I think it goes to an hour after sunset.
@@bigblue207 No. An alternate is not required if the airport of first intended landing has an instrument approach procedure, and the weather forcast at the destination between 1 hour before and 1 hour after the ETA is better than 2000 ft celling and 3 status miles of visibility. Just took my instrument knowledge test today.
@@danninglu8443 Genuinely curious, what if the destination airport has a crash and needs to close all runways?
The patient was of this ground controller is incredible. I’ve never had anyone with this much patience. I think getting chewed out a few time by ground or ATC for some bone head move in my youth helped to keep me focused when I talk to them.
The guy is still up there. The problem is he has gone so high the ISS is now assisting him.
Something is being worked out between FAA and NASA to get him down.
i dont think he got the ISS frequency right.
Reminds me of when I tried to fly out of a busy airport once, and I was given a SID that looked far too complicated. Instead of trying to follow that, I said, forget the clearance, I'll depart VFR and will pick up an IFR clearance in the air later.
I was wondering that. Why not just go VFR and deal with it later. It doesn't look like anything he couldn't navigate himself from on the ground, doesn't seem like a busy airport either.
Some simplified directions might of helped as well, it's great that he's getting the info from the tower but without a chart it's all Chinese to him
A little late but you’re not required to fly a SID. When you file, you can put “no sids” in the remarks
Putting "no SID" on an IFR flight plan is not going to make much difference. You will still get the SID, but instead of assinging the name of the SID, they will read the whole departure procedure in words which makes it unnecessarily lengthy and clogs up the frequency. If you are not willing to fly a SID, just for VFR.
Very polite atc guy
I thought it was challenging to get your instrument rating. This gives me confidence literally anyone can do it 🤦🏻♀️
"this guy has no flying experience at all. He's a menace to himself and everything else in the air... yes, birds too."
---Airplane---
And he's flying a Mooney??? Guaranteed he's a week behind that plane!!!
Classic. Over.
And he is taking an IFR flight plan...he couldn't be Instrument rated.
I think this pilot is a bit slow on the uptake ,ATC was very good and patient with him .please keep this brilliant work going I am hooked on it .
Excellent video with "lessons to be learned". Great work and patience from ATC personnel. This video is a great reminder about being prepared not only for what you plan on doing but also for what can happen if something goes wrong, clearance is not granted, alternate departures, etc. I think that ATC could have recommended/ask the pilot if he had all the necessary charts or invited him to come to flight planning (this for the pilot's own safety). I understand that this is not the duty of ATC to train a pilot put for the sake of safety, I believe it is worth it. Thank you for these videos, I would rather like to benefit from the experience(s) of other people as not to have to screw up myself (and I have done it)! Ciao, L
+lancelot1953 Hey, friend!! Thanks! This a serious problem to put a pilot like this airborne... Not much confidence at all
VASAviation - Hi "VASAviation", I agree with you, as a controller, I would be concerned on clearing this guy on a departure and wondering/worrying about the other controllers getting this pilot on the approach end of his flight! Keep them videos coming, I am learning a lot, Ciao, L
ATC did a great job, was very patient, and explained instructions very well to a pilot that shouldn’t be flying!
looks like he hasn't done an IFR flight for 10 years...
I'm no pilot, but even I understood all what the controller was saying.
When he said expect different climb out instructions, I became very depressed
Controller: "N530JP, do a 360, taxi back to parking." " Shut down and secure aircraft then go home."
Well I was scared because I’m just about to start my instrument training. But then I watched this video and I learned 2 things, 1 bring a pen and paper. 2 if this guy has an instrument license.... it’s going to be a LOT EASIER then getting my private
"with local weather" I knew I was in for a treat.
with eyeball-atis
@@ketas Nice one over.
It’s a disservice to let this “pilot” out on the airways. He clearly didn’t have clue what he was doing...
This is the same guy driving 35 mph in the left hand lane on the 65mph freeway constantly looking in his rear-view mirrors at the line of cars behind him. And the kicker was asking for a different runway after all this.
I was waiting for him to call “standing by” when asked to “stand-by” by atc
Standing by, over.
Dude!!! write it down on paper lol
Wow, I feel so much better about my radio work after this.
Honestly what a helpful man. So calm, he explained it so well I could've followed that departure without expecting that VOR. And idk shit! hahaha. And he wanted to explain exactly what he had to do to make all that work even when the pilot finally got the instructions right. I mean it doesn't get more patient than that!
Repeat after me....”reads war and peace “
Very standard IFR clearance, sometimes they are even longer. He should be writing these down and be prepared ahead of time. It's not that hard if you practice this , and since I assume he has an IFR certificate, he should have practiced many times.
I feel so bad for this pilot...
ATC did a nice job!
I find it hilariously ironic that you misspelled incompetent XD
Other than that, thanks a lot for the videos over the last couple months (that's when I found your channel). Very entertaining :)
+keokiracerhalsteren Holy crap! Not ironic, just funny!!! :D :D
+VASAviation - It actually is ironic. Irony is usually humorous. :)
@@MrJohns0n1
It actually isn't ironic.
Irony would be spelling *competant* incorrectly.
@@MrJohns0n1 I think i finally understand the meaning of "ironic" and from a comment on a 5 year old ATC conversation related to confusion stemming from a Waypoint that sounds like the word equipment. Not sure if that was a waypoint or something else, now i am not sure if this is irony either. Entertaining as hell though! How ironic is that? Wait! Stop! Do not answer that! LOL
My debate entry is
You can always encounter this kind if Pilot in FSX:SE Multiplayer.
That ATC controller thought going to a sleepy little airport like McKinney would be an easy job. Now he’s wishing he could go to DFW.
Wow! That was painful to hear. This pilot needs some serious re-training
I'm surprised they let him off the ground tbh.
🤣🤣 This was the funniest and also scariest thing I've listened to. Hopefully I'm not laughing at a dead pilot's last communications
"Possible Pilot Sleep Deprivation....Please copy this number for a motel when ready."
If you dont understand what you're actually supposed to do, then keep him on the ground. Dont know that much about these procedures but enough to not give him a clearance untill everything is correct and the pilot showed he's capable of doing this flight. That should be considered as well when I hear this
There is nothing wrong with asking to clarify instructions, as sometimes the controllers speak fast and not everyone has the ability to retain everything they said instantaneously.
Now, that said, there is definitely a problem with this pilot, because he appears *_UNPREPARED_* and there is NO EXCUSE for that!! I, myself, am not great on the radio with ATC, but to compensate for this, I "over prepare". I got my PPL at an uncontrolled airport, where most of my 150+ hrs of flight time has been spent. As I'm in Instrument Training right now, I'm getting better at ATC comms, but I know I'm not a "natural" at it, like some are!
I make damn sure I know every single VFR checkpoint, VOR, intersection etc. in the vicinity of my flight! I listen to the ATIS carefully, and go over several scenarios that I may expect, be it when I'm coming into the airport or departing!!
Unfortunately, this guy appears to have "jumped into" the airplane and decided to wing it (pardon the pun) as he goes along, which is totally unacceptable! And after all of that, he requests to depart from the other end of the runway!! Big big kudos to that controller for keeping his calm!! 😃 .....Most normal humans would've lost it at that point!!
I can only imagine how the rest of the conversation went with the controller spending another 10 to 15 minutes, going back and forth, explaining the new procedures!!! 😂
I'M just going to take it up and hope for the best.
"... DRIVES ATC CRAZY" ??? not on this video, ATC kept calm all the time! Great Job!
He’s actually an excellent controller I recognize his voice. He’s always so patient :)
Omg lol. I thonk if I was that controller id have vectored him back into the hangar...