Thank you everyone for your feedback. I realize that the cloaking effect isn't the greatest/too noticeable and I have noted your observations and they will be improved on in future videos. Please try to understand too that despite my talent, I have only been animating for about six months and am far from being fully versed on Blender, tho with each video I make I learn something new. :) Thank you for your understanding.
@@IronWarhorsesFun Well, the cloak in the movie didn't look perfect. Makes me think maybe the bird of prey was using older cloaking tech. I think the video is wonderful.
Nice! I will always love Scotty's line. "I didn't expect to take us into combat ya know." Scotty, it's the Enterprise and Jim Kirk is in command. Combat should always be something you expect.
I would figure Kirk is a Admiral he could have had at least two or three ships in command IF.... he fabricated a better excuse to the Fleet Admiral to allow him do so. Something like: Genesis could be used as a weapon. Possible theft. Make up a enemy...stuff like that.
Good Star Trek games were overall few. I've got Elite Force. Some years ago, modders added an SP campaign based on TOS, and released part of it. Not sure if they ever completed it though. The settings were great, with classic TOS sound effects and musical cues.
@@royroblox Right! STO Had potential for a bit, then the PEW PEW crowd got a hold of it and it went in the toilet... queues and shooting are all it is now... but for a while there were some actual stories and missions that you actually wanted to run with your friends... it was shortly after fleet starbases were introduced... and the foundry was kicking up big time... when they had random mission generating missions for the edge of the map areas and when you would beam to planets... and could explore stuff... nobody likes to explore anymore... it's too hard to think for simpletons... gotta be spoon fed or they quit with a tantrum
Star Trek: Bridge Commander does when modded. It's probably the best and most faithful Trek game ever made, being able to target individual systems like each separate disrupter / engine, and it was super easy to mod. People then added higher quality models, all the classic Trek ships (original game was TNG movie era), all the classic bridges, and lots of extra / improved features. Only down side was that the engine wasn't super optimized...
"Great Scott" Just 4 minutes 33 seconds...of a classic Trek movie, is forever re-watchable & enjoyable, That can't be said about all three of the JJ movies.
I have an appreciation for the JJ movies, but I wish they did something in regards to Vger, Or more less combat centric stuff, where the crew has to think their way out.
True True True. JJ's films were insulting. But hey, I couldn't stand him well before he did Star Trek, back when it was unpopular to not like him. I got attacked so many times back then for speaking up, but I have the last laugh now that he destroyed Star Wars . Hey, I tried to tell people, but no one listened. It is too bad that it took 2 Trek films and 2 Star Wars films before people started opening their eyes to what a hack this man is.
@@telee19 Don't forget the torpedo bay is unmanned and the port launcher is out of commission. It makes sense to have the induction launcher pre-energised.
@@the_once-and-future_king.Now looking at this if the torpedo launcher was turned on like this here, wouldn't you think the BOP would have detected it and known Enterprise might know where they are at? Of course the Klingons might just be thinking that Enterprise can't find Grissom and went to battle stations, just like Klingon doctrine. Or maybe the cloak as we know takes a lot of power so maybe Klingon sensors aren't the most reliable
@@vintvarner16 The whole reason Kirk didn't raise shields was to not clue in the enemy that they knew someone was out there. Kirk wanted them to think they were unaware of them. The torpedo 'light' turning on would have given away the game.
Incredible. Loved how the photon tube on the Enterprise 'powered up'.. the only 'constructive' criticism is there were times the cloaked Klingon ship was too easy to spot.. maybe blurring the cloaked edges would make it more mysterious? otherwise - wow - simply incredible!
@@yortsemloh1156 It was visible, but I think it was TOO visible here. I mean, at 1:42 it's super obvious. It's something that pops out at you, it's Bird of Prey ship-shaped even, but Kirk, Chekov, and Sulu are staring at the screen for quite some time until 2:15 when they theorize on what it is. Amusingly, to make this work, a few shots from the film are omitted here, where Kirk points the distortion and Sulu says that it gets bigger as they closer.
I would actually go a step further and not use the BoP model with a shader effect over it (because you can clearly see even details like the torpedo tube) but only make a vaguely approximate shape with a much more subtle refraction effect, as thats likely closer to what the cloak would looked like originally.
Even in the normal movie you could see the ship move as the BOP cloaking system was not perfect. Remember klingons canonically (fuck discovery) Got cloaking tech from the romulans but it was several generations inferior to top of the line romulan cloaks. This is why in Elan of Troyus the enterprise could detect the klingon ship on sensors but not see them (the did the same in Balance of terror but NOT in the enterprise incident as the romulans had developed a far better cloak by then.)
@@luminaire4946 I'm not saying there's no distortion at all -- in the original movie they can visually spot it. We're just saying in this remake video it's maybe a little too obvious, too quick and easy to spot, much more so than in the original.
I admit, I get extremely emotional during Star Treks II and III, and I am really invested in the Enterprise as a character. So, I will tell you, I cried at the addition of even one little additional bit of footage of the old girl, when powering up her only good torpedo bay. Your new footage matches James Horner's movement here PERFECTLY, hammering home the sense that this poor, battered starship, our old friend, is still gonna give her last battle all its worth.
I remember seeing ST:III at the theater. When the Enterprise self-destructed it got very quiet in the theater. Then you could hear people sniffling and she plunged into the atmosphere. A lot of us grew up with the old girl. :(
@@FilmScoreSpotlight Yep. Every other Enterprise, even the A, is just "another" Enterprise. This was the one that started it all. She had the history in her, of three years of television stories, novels, comics, everything that had been built up around her mystique since the original series ended. The ship Kirk fought to get back. And she died protecting her crew, one last time. People give Star Trek 3 crap, but it's honestly a great film in my eyes. It's the middle of a trilogy, which is the hardest part of any story to tell. The script may not be as tight as Wrath of Khan or as culturally grabbing as Voyage Home, but everything involving the crew and the Enterprise is amazing.
If I didn't know it was CGI, I would have sworn that the ventral shot of the Enterprise approaching Genesis was the original. I love the way you did the distortion too
Did you know that unlike most other Trek films, the new ship designs in this particular film were made by ILM, not Paramount. Leonard Nimoy knew enough to give ILM the ball and let them run with it. And from that we got some of the most iconic designs of all time - Spacedock, the Excelsior, the Klingon Bird of Prey, the Oberth-class Science Vessel, event he Merchantman Freighter which gets redressed and reused in TNG about a dozen times
@@k1productions87 Yet another reason to love that man, thank you Mr. Nimoy, llap. I would assume that ILM was also mainly responsible for the Miranda-class as well. Those things are amazing and REALLY long-lived. I half expected a bunch to show up at the end of ST: Picard's final episode. Oh well, we'll probably get a few in season 2, they have to be still in service.
@@disorientedbear No, the Miranda-class was an in-house thing, then approved by Nick Meyer, the Director (upside-down). The Miranda looks cool and all... but its basically just kitbashing the Constitution with some extra details.
@@k1productions87 Oops, II and III melded together in my head for a second. Makes sense. Star Trek has a wide (and awesome) history of creating "new" designs by gluing various components together (i.e. other designs, WWII battleships, common household items (razors)). The freighter design you mentioned before is a really good example. The TNG Romulan scout ship and various shuttle-sized craft seen in TNG's 11001001 are other examples. Yes they reused the Spacedock model in that episode, but it still worked. As long as the products are good, I'd tell them to keep "stretching" that ranch.
That was pretty fucking awesome. This is one of my all-time favorite space battles. I like the subtle touches here and there. A lot of recreations like to flex and add a lot of fancy foot-work for no reason. This? This was just right. Well done.
Really like the damage effect when the Bird Of Prey is spinning out of control! And I liked seeing the Enterprise’s remaining torpedo system ‘warming up’ as she closes through the shot!
I'm in the middle of marathoning the Star Trek movies on Bluray and just got finished with the 3rd movie. I can honestly say that I'm blown away by your recreation of this space battle and think it's better than the original. Excellent work fellow Trekker. I can't wait to see your other videos. :)
Word of advice, don't ever apologize for your work always stand by it especially the many man hours you had put into it. I think you did a great job, very clean and also a fantastic edit job altogether as well especially after Chekov says a scout class vessel!
" Scotty, we need fire power!!" " Canna do it sir , they knocked out the Chimpanzee , an two trainees who were runnin the automation system !!!!". Beautiful remade special effects. from a 1984 classic.
This is absolutely phenomenal! You've done fantastic work here. Thank you for sharing! I'd love to see you take on the VFX shots from Star Trek V! It would be interesting to see you not just replicate existing effects, but actually making your own that would be FAR superior to what the film itself managed to have!
Paramount should hire JTVFX to complete all the effects on the original Trek movies and release them all on Bluray/4K. Superb and the best effects I've seen of all the fan versions.
The little detail of the Starboard Nacelle marker light being burned out was great. I saw this in the theatre opening weekend, and that little detail caught my eye then, and I'm so glad you included it here.
That's a good joke we all banter about, but if you figure the massive energy used in these ST weapons or encountering massive space energy fields (if real)... Really kind of hard to build a fuse that can handle something that can arc many or hundreds of kilometers through space.
@@STho205 - Yeah but it isn’t the weapons exploding, it’s computer consoles. Clearly the hulls do withstand phaser, disruptor, and torpedo hits, so it shouldn’t be out of their ability to avoid energy being conducted through to computer equipment and exploding.
@@florbfnarb7099 has to go somewhere. Of course that would burn out all the circuits as it did in WNMHGB requiring replacement, but massive energy finds the weakest system to burn out. Try a house after a lightening pop or a massive loss of ground and phase shift. All the little electronics, switches, buttons and table fan motors get popped and blow. Big items like compressors, stoves, HVAC, etc... They're often fine.
I am loving these visits into key scenes of Trek! I do have one little comment about the photon torpedo firing sequence: since TWOK established that photon torpedoes are actual physical objects (and not blobs of energy), when the starboard torpedo fires, I expected to see the weapon exiting a tunnel-like torpedo tube rather than a flat orange plane. That’s it… that’s the only constructive comments/criticism I can offer. I am stunned and envious at your rate of production. Marvelous, just marvelous!
Tremendous work!! I am so glad to have found your channel!! Your work is outstanding!! I would love to see a version of this scene where the Enterprise wins and survives!! Imagine Star Trek IV, V, and VI with the good ole' 1701 all the way through!!!
This is pretty damn good. So many fans try to re-create this battle, or the Mutara Nebula battle, or the destruction of enterpise or the getaway..etc. But they usually fall short because they forget to detail out the ships to make them "stage ready", or their skills are not there yet. I see below you are only 6 months into animating. This is freaking amazing. Keep it going man, you have promise. what I like about this video is the updates to the VFX, etc, are done in a way that respects the original. there is not a massive change in choreography. Positions of the ships are respected and things like updating the planet textures for the new render make it look far more believable thatn the original, unfairly ham strung by its time period. But this is good stuff. I would compare this to the remasters paramount did for TOS. Taking out "roller" time keepers and putting in digital screens. Or changes to planets when the enterprise comes into orbit that just look more realistic than a large blurred out blob circle behind the model of the enterprise. I''ll say it one more time. .Great job,.
imo, the way the cloaking looked has the same vibe as the "rushed production" version we see on screen, and is absolutely television level, not quite feature film, but definitely on that trajectory.
I have loved and seen this scene so many times. I love where you where going with many of the shots. I'm so impressed with the level of some of the fan films and fx out there now. Keep up the good work!
That is really sweet. Heartbreaking to see the old girl take a beating then her final breath a short time later. Last day of the enterprise. 3 captains, 2 major refits and 20 year of service.
Fantastic. You fixed a bothersome aspect of the original. When the Klingon ship returned fire there was that static discharge at the saucer that lasted 3 secs or so, AND then the blast behind Kirk. You made the bridge direct hit right away thus more exciting. Great editing.
Very consistent with dialog. Excellent work! I like the attention to detail you did when the B.O.P fired on the Enterprise and the bridge lights went out. In the beginning when the Enterprise came out of warp speed and it's mentioned by Sulu although not shown in the actual movie. Nice Touch!!!
Great job and nice effects. Always heart breaking this scene. This is the ship that has scene it all and to be destroyed always has hurt my heart. Oh how I wished it could have been different!
WOW. This looks absolutely fantastic. I just read your comment from a week ago that you have only been animating for six months.... keep it up because this is truly great work!!
That was very well done! I guess the only issue I would say with the whole video was on the Klingon bridge while the rest of the ship was all red at Red alert the monitor was still showing a normal color but beyond that this video was fantastic
The current trope for space battles is lots of fast cuts to a multitude of different angles and highly dynamic ship movement. While a Bird of Prey might have an advantage of maneuverability over a Constitution Class vessel, we are still dealing with incredible amounts of mass on both vessels, and that they are fighting in the gravity well of a planet. While there may have been a couple shots that were slightly too static, overall this was an immensely satisfying and realistically more dynamic combat sequence than the original footage. That you have only been doing this (at the time) for six months or so is truly impressive and I really commend your work.
Another thing that I like about this recreation is that we see the enterprise coming out of warp for what turns out to be her last time...a part we dont see in the film itself.
I've just found your work and it is absolutely incredible! It's movie CGI standard, or better! I'm now trying to watch every little scrap you've done. Thank you and your contributors for the endless hours you have put into this amazing body of work!
You did some awesome work my friend you took an already great movie scene and made it even better it would be nice to see all of the Star Trek movies updated like this you could do a really good job with them 👍👍🖖
It just hit me! The cloaking effect looks like where the Scimitar was hit while under cloak, with that fairly sharp line of definition through the cloak
Great job!!! Love how the photon torpedo launcher powered up. Very constructive. My favorite part of this whole scene (even in the original) is when the Enterprise was entering frame from the ventral view. Those engines at full impulse sounds awesome!!! It was same with STWOK when Reliant was entering frame at Ceti Alpha V.
How have I not come across this channel yet? O_O This is actually one of the sequences I've been wanting to revisit, but so many ideas, so little time. lol
I'm going through all of these - so good. I've wanted this for classic Trek films for a while now - these are the scenes I watch over and over on TH-cam. I have a dream, though - Babylon 5. I HAVE A DREAM that one day Babylon 5 will be re-released with updated special effects.
03:44 Great editing choice here. Putting the effect of the energy dancing on the primary hull AFTER the crew reacts to the initial blast looks so much better than in the original film.
The Enterprise modelling was FANTASTIC for CG ! Kudos to Al Dinelt ! Likewise for the Genesis planet textures... Great video. Made me want to watch it again this year !
Still I come back to your videos and when the bird of prey comes of of the darkness,and sulu sees her and kirk fires it is beyond a epic fire fight.along with James horners score.
Excellent! One small touch from the film; when the Enterprise is cresting the Genesis Planet, the Recognition beacon on the Port nacelle doesn't blink when all the others do. One more measure of bow wounded the Enterprise was.
Mk.2 torpedoes were variable-yield. The torpedoes were stowed with only minimal antimatter (so they could be safely ejected via the torpedo tubes in an emergency if the induction launcher was damaged). As the torpedo bay was running without a crew, the additional 'warhead' antimatter wasn't loaded, so the actual yield against the BoP was quite low, hence the unusually limited damage caused. Compare it to the Battle of Khitomer. Chang's BoP required 7 direct hits before it was destroyed.
Not IMO, when the Enterprise comes out of warp the ship can be seen in this video as coming to a complete stop then start moving on impulse, that shouldn't have happen like that.
Very good work indeed. The only thing that I can critique is at 1:40 - the Bird of Prey's outline is too obvious, needs to be obfuscated a little. Other than that, excellent work. The models themselves are very impressive.
I finally figured out why this looks better on my 46 inch plasma television. It's big enough to give the scene a sense of scale, to really feel the size and Majesty of the Enterprise. It came to me initially while I was watching Sulaco glide across the screen with immense, ponderous, irresistible inevitability.
That was very good. Very smooth transition between the effects shots and the actors. It sure won't beat the real physical effects but that showed us just how ugly and without heart STD and Picard. Well done.
Thank you everyone for your feedback. I realize that the cloaking effect isn't the greatest/too noticeable and I have noted your observations and they will be improved on in future videos. Please try to understand too that despite my talent, I have only been animating for about six months and am far from being fully versed on Blender, tho with each video I make I learn something new. :)
Thank you for your understanding.
I thought you did an amazing job! I’m usually against people going back and re-editing movies but I loved the updated effects.
Very nice work.
It honestly looks like the cloaking device is malfunctioning 😎
@@IronWarhorsesFun Well, the cloak in the movie didn't look perfect. Makes me think maybe the bird of prey was using older cloaking tech. I think the video is wonderful.
@@DavidNicholson101 yes. Also loved that you can very clearly see the sillouette of a BoP🤣
Nice! I will always love Scotty's line. "I didn't expect to take us into combat ya know." Scotty, it's the Enterprise and Jim Kirk is in command. Combat should always be something you expect.
To be completely fair, though... Earth to Mutara is just a quick trip around the block.
@@OpenMawProductions True, but remember what happened on their last trip to the Mutara Sector. lol
I would figure Kirk is a Admiral he could have had at least two or three ships in command IF.... he fabricated a better excuse to the Fleet Admiral to allow him do so. Something like: Genesis could be used as a weapon. Possible theft. Make up a enemy...stuff like that.
Poor writing. I would have wrote, no time to repair the Enterprise. We have 15 % deflector power!
@@kingsman8475 lame
It's a disgusting sin that we don't have any modern video games of classic Trek with graphics like this!
Good Star Trek games were overall few. I've got Elite Force. Some years ago, modders added an SP campaign based on TOS, and released part of it. Not sure if they ever completed it though. The settings were great, with classic TOS sound effects and musical cues.
Tell me about it! I loved Klingon Academy and Starfleet Command so much but an awesome one with more depth than STO would be incredible.
@@royroblox Right! STO Had potential for a bit, then the PEW PEW crowd got a hold of it and it went in the toilet... queues and shooting are all it is now... but for a while there were some actual stories and missions that you actually wanted to run with your friends... it was shortly after fleet starbases were introduced... and the foundry was kicking up big time... when they had random mission generating missions for the edge of the map areas and when you would beam to planets... and could explore stuff... nobody likes to explore anymore... it's too hard to think for simpletons... gotta be spoon fed or they quit with a tantrum
Sounds like a niche market, ripe for the pickin'. You game?? (Pun intended!)
Star Trek: Bridge Commander does when modded. It's probably the best and most faithful Trek game ever made, being able to target individual systems like each separate disrupter / engine, and it was super easy to mod. People then added higher quality models, all the classic Trek ships (original game was TNG movie era), all the classic bridges, and lots of extra / improved features. Only down side was that the engine wasn't super optimized...
"Great Scott" Just 4 minutes 33 seconds...of a classic Trek movie, is forever re-watchable & enjoyable, That can't be said about all three of the JJ movies.
The JJ movies SUUUUUUCKED!!! ALL OF THEM!!
I have an appreciation for the JJ movies, but I wish they did something in regards to Vger, Or more less combat centric stuff, where the crew has to think their way out.
Beyond was, I thought, alright. I didn't really care for the weirs dumbing down and combat focused style of them, though.
True True True. JJ's films were insulting. But hey, I couldn't stand him well before he did Star Trek, back when it was unpopular to not like him. I got attacked so many times back then for speaking up, but I have the last laugh now that he destroyed Star Wars . Hey, I tried to tell people, but no one listened. It is too bad that it took 2 Trek films and 2 Star Wars films before people started opening their eyes to what a hack this man is.
@@thegreenmanofnorwichyou mean the one where the Beastie Boys music defeats the aliens?🤣
I really liked how you showed the Enterprise torpedo system coming online. Lovely little touch.
I agree, though tactically not at all
advantageous
@@telee19 Don't forget the torpedo bay is unmanned and the port launcher is out of commission. It makes sense to have the induction launcher pre-energised.
@@the_once-and-future_king.Now looking at this if the torpedo launcher was turned on like this here, wouldn't you think the BOP would have detected it and known Enterprise might know where they are at? Of course the Klingons might just be thinking that Enterprise can't find Grissom and went to battle stations, just like Klingon doctrine. Or maybe the cloak as we know takes a lot of power so maybe Klingon sensors aren't the most reliable
@@vintvarner16 The whole reason Kirk didn't raise shields was to not clue in the enemy that they knew someone was out there. Kirk wanted them to think they were unaware of them. The torpedo 'light' turning on would have given away the game.
"88 miles an hour.!! I mean fire torpedoes!!"
Great Scott!
They need 1.21 gigawats
“ that’s heavy “
Do I even need to mention that in the the Star Trek movie that followed this one, Kruge’s Ship doubled as a Time Machine?
@@johnnyfavorite1194 Great Scott Johnny! You are absolutely correct.
Incredible. Loved how the photon tube on the Enterprise 'powered up'.. the only 'constructive' criticism is there were times the cloaked Klingon ship was too easy to spot.. maybe blurring the cloaked edges would make it more mysterious? otherwise - wow - simply incredible!
In the original movie you could see it after it cloaked and on the view screen.
@@yortsemloh1156 It was visible, but I think it was TOO visible here. I mean, at 1:42 it's super obvious. It's something that pops out at you, it's Bird of Prey ship-shaped even, but Kirk, Chekov, and Sulu are staring at the screen for quite some time until 2:15 when they theorize on what it is.
Amusingly, to make this work, a few shots from the film are omitted here, where Kirk points the distortion and Sulu says that it gets bigger as they closer.
I would actually go a step further and not use the BoP model with a shader effect over it (because you can clearly see even details like the torpedo tube) but only make a vaguely approximate shape with a much more subtle refraction effect, as thats likely closer to what the cloak would looked like originally.
Even in the normal movie you could see the ship move as the BOP cloaking system was not perfect. Remember klingons canonically (fuck discovery) Got cloaking tech from the romulans but it was several generations inferior to top of the line romulan cloaks. This is why in Elan of Troyus the enterprise could detect the klingon ship on sensors but not see them (the did the same in Balance of terror but NOT in the enterprise incident as the romulans had developed a far better cloak by then.)
@@luminaire4946 I'm not saying there's no distortion at all -- in the original movie they can visually spot it. We're just saying in this remake video it's maybe a little too obvious, too quick and easy to spot, much more so than in the original.
I admit, I get extremely emotional during Star Treks II and III, and I am really invested in the Enterprise as a character. So, I will tell you, I cried at the addition of even one little additional bit of footage of the old girl, when powering up her only good torpedo bay. Your new footage matches James Horner's movement here PERFECTLY, hammering home the sense that this poor, battered starship, our old friend, is still gonna give her last battle all its worth.
I remember seeing ST:III at the theater. When the Enterprise self-destructed it got very quiet in the theater. Then you could hear people sniffling and she plunged into the atmosphere.
A lot of us grew up with the old girl. :(
For me this is the only true U.S.S. Enterprise!
@@FilmScoreSpotlight No bloody A, B, C, D, E, or J.J.
@@FilmScoreSpotlight always and forever
@@FilmScoreSpotlight Yep. Every other Enterprise, even the A, is just "another" Enterprise. This was the one that started it all. She had the history in her, of three years of television stories, novels, comics, everything that had been built up around her mystique since the original series ended. The ship Kirk fought to get back.
And she died protecting her crew, one last time.
People give Star Trek 3 crap, but it's honestly a great film in my eyes. It's the middle of a trilogy, which is the hardest part of any story to tell. The script may not be as tight as Wrath of Khan or as culturally grabbing as Voyage Home, but everything involving the crew and the Enterprise is amazing.
Great stuff for 6 months experience!
I’d forgotten just how good Christopher Lloyd is as Kruge.
Kruge is fucking awesome, and endlessly quotable.
Like Leonard Nimoy said in his commentary, "Don't talk to me about typecasting..."
Never piss off reverend Jim
I always found it charming that he pronounced the "th" in "thrusters" closer to an "f". I don't know why, I just like it.
I think Lloyd was doing something like a Chinese/Japanese warlord sort of thing for Kruge. It made him... thoughtful in his brutality
For six months on Blender, this is very well done. With more time and experience this scene will be polished to near perfection. Good job.
If I didn't know it was CGI, I would have sworn that the ventral shot of the Enterprise approaching Genesis was the original. I love the way you did the distortion too
IMHO the most beautiful starship design in one of my favorite scenes. Thank you!! VERY well done!!
Did you know that unlike most other Trek films, the new ship designs in this particular film were made by ILM, not Paramount. Leonard Nimoy knew enough to give ILM the ball and let them run with it. And from that we got some of the most iconic designs of all time - Spacedock, the Excelsior, the Klingon Bird of Prey, the Oberth-class Science Vessel, event he Merchantman Freighter which gets redressed and reused in TNG about a dozen times
@@k1productions87 Yet another reason to love that man, thank you Mr. Nimoy, llap. I would assume that ILM was also mainly responsible for the Miranda-class as well. Those things are amazing and REALLY long-lived. I half expected a bunch to show up at the end of ST: Picard's final episode. Oh well, we'll probably get a few in season 2, they have to be still in service.
@@disorientedbear No, the Miranda-class was an in-house thing, then approved by Nick Meyer, the Director (upside-down). The Miranda looks cool and all... but its basically just kitbashing the Constitution with some extra details.
@@k1productions87 Oops, II and III melded together in my head for a second. Makes sense. Star Trek has a wide (and awesome) history of creating "new" designs by gluing various components together (i.e. other designs, WWII battleships, common household items (razors)). The freighter design you mentioned before is a really good example. The TNG Romulan scout ship and various shuttle-sized craft seen in TNG's 11001001 are other examples. Yes they reused the Spacedock model in that episode, but it still worked. As long as the products are good, I'd tell them to keep "stretching" that ranch.
That was pretty fucking awesome. This is one of my all-time favorite space battles. I like the subtle touches here and there. A lot of recreations like to flex and add a lot of fancy foot-work for no reason. This? This was just right. Well done.
Really like the damage effect when the Bird Of Prey is spinning out of control! And I liked seeing the Enterprise’s remaining torpedo system ‘warming up’ as she closes through the shot!
"Knocked out the Automation Center!" Darn that Windows v.2305!
And the console catches fire between Scott and Sulu lol
Windows Vista.
Windows 7 too
😂
HAHAHAHA/!👍😂
Just found your channel and your already one of my favorite Trek uploaders. Excellent job
Really well done, you stayed true to the “spirit” of the battle.
I'm in the middle of marathoning the Star Trek movies on Bluray and just got finished with the 3rd movie. I can honestly say that I'm blown away by your recreation of this space battle and think it's better than the original. Excellent work fellow Trekker. I can't wait to see your other videos. :)
Word of advice, don't ever apologize for your work always stand by it especially the many man hours you had put into it. I think you did a great job, very clean and also a fantastic edit job altogether as well especially after Chekov says a scout class vessel!
DANG, I was hoping to see the Enterprise destruction too! Your animations got me invested so much into the video! Excellent work.
" Scotty, we need fire power!!"
" Canna do it sir , they knocked out the Chimpanzee , an two trainees who were runnin the automation system !!!!".
Beautiful remade special effects.
from a 1984 classic.
This is absolutely phenomenal! You've done fantastic work here. Thank you for sharing!
I'd love to see you take on the VFX shots from Star Trek V! It would be interesting to see you not just replicate existing effects, but actually making your own that would be FAR superior to what the film itself managed to have!
Thank you so much for this scene! You did such an awesome job!
One of my favorite battle scenes, thank you so much for this Jason, amazing work sir! 🖖
Paramount should hire JTVFX to complete all the effects on the original Trek movies and release them all on Bluray/4K. Superb and the best effects I've seen of all the fan versions.
they wouldnt and would make his life hell
This looks good but the studio can do much better VFX.
@@alvinbanks can and should but the end result isnt always enjoyed
The little detail of the Starboard Nacelle marker light being burned out was great. I saw this in the theatre opening weekend, and that little detail caught my eye then, and I'm so glad you included it here.
2:59 - 3:03 This is just beautifully done. I appreciate how the entire sequence seems less hasty here.
The Federation should really invest in developing computer systems that don’t explode. Amazing work!
The Federation and Klingons both have forgotten how to make circuit breakers, it seems...
That's a good joke we all banter about, but if you figure the massive energy used in these ST weapons or encountering massive space energy fields (if real)... Really kind of hard to build a fuse that can handle something that can arc many or hundreds of kilometers through space.
I love exploding consoles.
@@STho205 - Yeah but it isn’t the weapons exploding, it’s computer consoles. Clearly the hulls do withstand phaser, disruptor, and torpedo hits, so it shouldn’t be out of their ability to avoid energy being conducted through to computer equipment and exploding.
@@florbfnarb7099 has to go somewhere. Of course that would burn out all the circuits as it did in WNMHGB requiring replacement, but massive energy finds the weakest system to burn out.
Try a house after a lightening pop or a massive loss of ground and phase shift. All the little electronics, switches, buttons and table fan motors get popped and blow. Big items like compressors, stoves, HVAC, etc... They're often fine.
I am loving these visits into key scenes of Trek! I do have one little comment about the photon torpedo firing sequence: since TWOK established that photon torpedoes are actual physical objects (and not blobs of energy), when the starboard torpedo fires, I expected to see the weapon exiting a tunnel-like torpedo tube rather than a flat orange plane. That’s it… that’s the only constructive comments/criticism I can offer. I am stunned and envious at your rate of production. Marvelous, just marvelous!
I have to admit out of all Klingons Christopher Lloyd was great in this movie.
He was waiting for the Enterprise to reach 88mph before firing.
My favorite Klingon villain.
This is simply amazing. I absolutely love your work. It really brings new light into the most special movies of my life. Keep up the great work!
You are an artist. I need more of this in my life.
I love the clocking effect. That first shot with the planet revealing part of the ship. >Chef's kiss
NO... this version is great keep doing what you're doing you are doing a great service to trekies everywhere
That little detail of the torpedo tube lighting up was a fantastic touch!
You did a fine job. Well done and keep the hard work. We all have a learning path.
Tremendous work!! I am so glad to have found your channel!! Your work is outstanding!! I would love to see a version of this scene where the Enterprise wins and survives!! Imagine Star Trek IV, V, and VI with the good ole' 1701 all the way through!!!
Enterprise would have been neutralized by the time of 4 and literally no pun intended she would have been dead in the water
This is pretty damn good. So many fans try to re-create this battle, or the Mutara Nebula battle, or the destruction of enterpise or the getaway..etc. But they usually fall short because they forget to detail out the ships to make them "stage ready", or their skills are not there yet. I see below you are only 6 months into animating. This is freaking amazing. Keep it going man, you have promise. what I like about this video is the updates to the VFX, etc, are done in a way that respects the original. there is not a massive change in choreography. Positions of the ships are respected and things like updating the planet textures for the new render make it look far more believable thatn the original, unfairly ham strung by its time period. But this is good stuff. I would compare this to the remasters paramount did for TOS. Taking out "roller" time keepers and putting in digital screens. Or changes to planets when the enterprise comes into orbit that just look more realistic than a large blurred out blob circle behind the model of the enterprise. I''ll say it one more time. .Great job,.
fantastic... makes me want to rewatch the original movies
this is amazing....loved watching this recreation of the Klingon ship/Enterprise battle at Genesis....well done
imo, the way the cloaking looked has the same vibe as the "rushed production" version we see on screen, and is absolutely television level, not quite feature film, but definitely on that trajectory.
Well done with some minor edits as well which gave it the right pace. Great work on the 3D models and lighting!
I love these. You're getting everything just perfect. Please keep up the good work.
I have loved and seen this scene so many times. I love where you where going with many of the shots. I'm so impressed with the level of some of the fan films and fx out there now. Keep up the good work!
Happy to see the love being brought one of my favorite movies of all the time keep up the amazing work
That is really sweet. Heartbreaking to see the old girl take a beating then her final breath a short time later. Last day of the enterprise. 3 captains, 2 major refits and 20 year of service.
40 years
Ok heres another epic video I love your new pass on the enterprise approaching genesis,im officially a fan of your channel, thank you for this!!!!!
Fantastic. You fixed a bothersome aspect of the original. When the Klingon ship returned fire there was that static discharge at the saucer that lasted 3 secs or so, AND then the blast behind Kirk. You made the bridge direct hit right away thus more exciting. Great editing.
Very consistent with dialog. Excellent work! I like the attention to detail you did when the B.O.P fired on the Enterprise and the bridge lights went out. In the beginning when the Enterprise came out of warp speed and it's mentioned by Sulu although not shown in the actual movie. Nice Touch!!!
🖖😎👍 Very cool and very nicely greatly well done and executed in every detail way shape and format provided indeed Sir's!👌.
The music when Enterprise, showed from beneath, is closing to Genesis...
What a perfect score.
I swear, someone needs to give you a job at Industrial, Light & Magic bro. This is pure awesomeness. Great job.
This is truly beautiful. Amazing work.
Great job and nice effects. Always heart breaking this scene. This is the ship that has scene it all and to be destroyed always has hurt my heart. Oh how I wished it could have been different!
WOW. This looks absolutely fantastic. I just read your comment from a week ago that you have only been animating for six months.... keep it up because this is truly great work!!
That was very well done! I guess the only issue I would say with the whole video was on the Klingon bridge while the rest of the ship was all red at Red alert the monitor was still showing a normal color but beyond that this video was fantastic
Great job on this. The scenes look amazing in 1080!
The current trope for space battles is lots of fast cuts to a multitude of different angles and highly dynamic ship movement. While a Bird of Prey might have an advantage of maneuverability over a Constitution Class vessel, we are still dealing with incredible amounts of mass on both vessels, and that they are fighting in the gravity well of a planet. While there may have been a couple shots that were slightly too static, overall this was an immensely satisfying and realistically more dynamic combat sequence than the original footage.
That you have only been doing this (at the time) for six months or so is truly impressive and I really commend your work.
This is brilliant, it's really captured that more realistic miniature look - that I think is missing from TV/film cg.
That drop out of warp scene won me over. You have my sub.
Another thing that I like about this recreation is that we see the enterprise coming out of warp for what turns out to be her last time...a part we dont see in the film itself.
Agreed
I've just found your work and it is absolutely incredible! It's movie CGI standard, or better! I'm now trying to watch every little scrap you've done. Thank you and your contributors for the endless hours you have put into this amazing body of work!
Incredible work! Just outstanding
You did some awesome work my friend you took an already great movie scene and made it even better it would be nice to see all of the Star Trek movies updated like this you could do a really good job with them 👍👍🖖
star trek will never be this amazing again 😢I really miss the original 6 movies just pure magic
That's a nice job 👌
And I'm always struck by just how good Mr Shatner is in this movie. A real star.
It just hit me! The cloaking effect looks like where the Scimitar was hit while under cloak, with that fairly sharp line of definition through the cloak
These are so well done. Thanks so much.
Great job!!! Love how the photon torpedo launcher powered up. Very constructive. My favorite part of this whole scene (even in the original) is when the Enterprise was entering frame from the ventral view. Those engines at full impulse sounds awesome!!! It was same with STWOK when Reliant was entering frame at Ceti Alpha V.
How have I not come across this channel yet? O_O
This is actually one of the sequences I've been wanting to revisit, but so many ideas, so little time. lol
This is amazing stuff. I enjoy this.
I'm going through all of these - so good. I've wanted this for classic Trek films for a while now - these are the scenes I watch over and over on TH-cam. I have a dream, though - Babylon 5. I HAVE A DREAM that one day Babylon 5 will be re-released with updated special effects.
Dude I love your work. The movies really need this
You did a awesome job I really enjoyed this
Absolutely amazing this is a reason I love the original Star Trek movies
03:44 Great editing choice here. Putting the effect of the energy dancing on the primary hull AFTER the crew reacts to the initial blast looks so much better than in the original film.
The Enterprise modelling was FANTASTIC for CG ! Kudos to Al Dinelt ! Likewise for the Genesis planet textures... Great video. Made me want to watch it again this year !
I liked how you showed the Enterprise dropping out of warp, good stuff. Also the torpedo damage on the BoP.
Still I come back to your videos and when the bird of prey comes of of the darkness,and sulu sees her and kirk fires it is beyond a epic fire fight.along with James horners score.
What is so cool is that later they take the Bird of Prey back to 1986 how awesome is that?
And the cloaking device was crucial to the success of Picard's resistance of the changelings a century later!
I used to have a poster of that very last scene with the 2 ships facing each other down. Cool video.
Great, great work!!! My favorite scene in my favorite Star Trek movie.
Yet more incredible work...if I didn't know this movie so well I'd not be able to tell the difference...if anything...this was better
Fantastic. Love these new renderings
The shot at 0:50 is incredibly gorgeous. Well done!
The original effects were convincing enough. Doesn't really need a recreation, but that's pretty good work.
Wow great battle and the picture quality is superb. Nicely done.
awesome job on a classic from my childhood
Excellent! One small touch from the film; when the Enterprise is cresting the Genesis Planet, the Recognition beacon on the Port nacelle doesn't blink when all the others do. One more measure of bow wounded the Enterprise was.
Great job! The visuals are much sharper and more detailed. The ships’ movements more fluid.
Great work! I can’t help but think of Jim from Taxi as Klingon Captain when I see this😂
My only big complaint with this movie is that two photon torpedoes against an unshielded bird of prey should have crippled that ship.
Mk.2 torpedoes were variable-yield. The torpedoes were stowed with only minimal antimatter (so they could be safely ejected via the torpedo tubes in an emergency if the induction launcher was damaged). As the torpedo bay was running without a crew, the additional 'warhead' antimatter wasn't loaded, so the actual yield against the BoP was quite low, hence the unusually limited damage caused.
Compare it to the Battle of Khitomer. Chang's BoP required 7 direct hits before it was destroyed.
Good point.
This is fantastic extremely well done you're to be commended. I mean it's really really good thanks a lot!
The dropping out warp..fantastic!
Not IMO, when the Enterprise comes out of warp the ship can be seen in this video as coming to a complete stop then start moving on impulse, that shouldn't have happen like that.
The visuals were great in this movie. Everything looked substantial, real, and clean.
Nicely done I could not tell the difference between yours and the original. In fact, I thought I was watching original! Great job!
Very good work indeed. The only thing that I can critique is at 1:40 - the Bird of Prey's outline is too obvious, needs to be obfuscated a little. Other than that, excellent work. The models themselves are very impressive.
Beautiful, frame rate, textures, lighting. Looks great!
"When this torpedo hits the enterprise you're gonna see some serious shit."
I finally figured out why this looks better on my 46 inch plasma television. It's big enough to give the scene a sense of scale, to really feel the size and Majesty of the Enterprise. It came to me initially while I was watching Sulaco glide across the screen with immense, ponderous, irresistible inevitability.
That was very good. Very smooth transition between the effects shots and the actors. It sure won't beat the real physical effects but that showed us just how ugly and without heart STD and Picard. Well done.