Which bass fishing knot IS THE STRONGEST? (Flourocarbon to Braid!)
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- This video is an experiment to test which of the following flourocarbon to braid fishing knots (FG knot, GT knot, albright knot, double uni knot) is the strongest.
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I'm a double uni guy. I can tie it in less than a minute. I'm happy with second place!
Haha good point
Dude so am I and I have never lost a fish due to my knot so ill continue to use it. The FG is a pain in the ass to tie.
@@FSD_1776 do what works, for sure
Double uni is a great knot, but I use the FG for it’s slim profile.
I can tie one in 30 seconds at maximum
I stand corrected , after more research and learning I was tying the FG knot wrong I’m going back to it. It’s very small and long to go though the guides very well, better than other knots I was disappointed when it kept coming apart when I was trying to break off when a lure would get hung. Thanks for the video. God bless.
Awesome test results! Thx and good job.
Thank you for that young man! Very illuminating to see these knots put to the test, side by side.
Thanks for watching
I can honestly say I have never broken a fish off because of an FG
Same, ive had it slip out but thats cause i forgot to pull everything tight before cutting tag end, other than user error, its never failed
Same
And I fish for big snook snd grouper offshore so I put it to the test
Lies
Ditto
I thought this was from a channel with a few million subscribers! Great content and quality, keep up!
Wow. I may frame that comment. Chunky chango, thank you
I agree I have a hard time tying the FG knot out on the water when I'm in a hurry. I use the Uni to Uni.
I'm brazilian, here the most used knot is the "SF", very similar to the FG. I use it for peacock bass fishing.
Like you said man, i'll usually ties fg's before i go out. I then switch to double uni on the water for how quick and easy i can tie them. I can tie a double uni in the dark...literally.
in Singapore we use the fg knot for almost every type of fishing and most of us have found our own method of making it easy to tie! good to know its the strongest knot in this experiment
cheers.
Would love to see the method!
Okay this was a pretty cool video never thought to test which was the best. Fg knot it is! Subbed bud
Fishing Made Easy thank you 👌🏼
I use the Crazy Alberto knot with my spinning rods 12# Nanofil to whatever leader I’m using for what I’m throwing and I’ve never had the knot break on a fish or snag. The line always breaks not the knot. It’s easier to tie compared to the FG so I’ve never tried to learn the FG. It goes through the guides real smooth. Great vid !
Alberto does not pass through the guides properly,but for me is the most strong knot as there is no line overlapping and when there is tension it only gets stronger and tighter. Never fails or slips.
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Not sure why people keep comparing old knots - the FG is clearly superior - end of story. And it’s not that hard to tie once you’re used to it. Fiddly, yes - difficult, no.
I 100% agree with you. As with all knots practice makes perfect. The more you do it the easier it gets. FG best knot for braid to floro or mono you can make
Completely agree! I spent a winter learning to tie the FG. Once proficient I gained confidence by fishing for river sauger and walleye.
I now have 100% confidence in the FG knot and can tie it in about 3 minutes. I do secure the tag of the braid with a little bit of super glue to stop the knot from unraveling over time.
Ever tried tying fg knot while in a boat bouncing in waves in wind when its raining and your hands are almost numb from cold ?fiddly..definitely..difficult...very much so
@@kristopherwiita4509 Does 25° ambient temp, 35 MPH wind, sleet and snow count? If so, yes. Still about the same, about 3-4 minutes.
Learn to tie it with your braid looped around your reel handle. It waste more braid this way but you can tie it under your console or huddled behind your center storage lid out of the wind.
@@kristopherwiita4509 I don’t ever see those conditions, but I can tie it sitting in a kayak. I tuck the leader spool under one leg, then twist the braid and manage tension with thumb and forefinger. It can be tied pretty much anywhere this way, in most conditions. Even if it takes longer than usual, it’s worth the time. If you don’t need a super slim connection, just do a double uni.
Well im a user of all these knots except the gt one. Albright is for finesse fishing then uni for light to medium then fg for heavy set-up. Really depends on the situation. Thanks for the vid man
I've only read a couple of pages of comments here so apologies if I'm repeating others but it's not just the strength of the knot but it's ability to absorb shock of a big hit. Appreciate that should be absorbed by the line (or should be depending on what is used) but there are plenty of immensely strong knots that will snap at a big shock load.
Im not sure that makes sense in this case as both materials (braided and floro) don't really stretch much or absorb any shock really on their own, not sure if the knot when pulled tight with materials that don't absorb shock or stretch very well is going to stretch or absorb shock very well. I can see this being the case if mono is in the mix and the test could be skewed because the mono is going to stretch and the knot may make it stretch even more?
I ONLY use an FG knot followed with a Rizutto Finish (I think half hitches are okay, but don’t like when they fray and may compromise knot). I land tarpon, snook, bull reds, sharks, grouper, amberjacks and FG knot never fails. Tied it so many times now that I can re-tie within a couple of minutes while on the boat. Shortest leader I will tie is about the length of the rod I’m using or longer...so I’m set for a 3-4 day fishing trip and do not need to re-tie unless if I get snagged or hung up on bottom. Lastly, this is the BEST line to leader knot that enables the angler to cast the knot (especially with longer leaders) through the guides without causing any guide damage due to the extremely low profile of the knot.
There you go
Dodd knot is all I've used for the last 10 years and I will be continuing to use only that knot when doing braid to fluoro/mono
Curious what the Alberto Knot would rank here, because it's such a solid and well designed knot for strength and is low profile to boot.
Nice test 👍🎣
Uni to Uni (Double Uni) for me. It's not difficult to tie and only uses 2 loops.
Never broken on me so far and I use 22lb braid to 12lb leader lure fishing for Labrax
It took me 2 minutes to learn the FG… will be sticking with it
Try the six times though surgeons loop knot. I’m curious about it’s breaking strength. Thanks for sharing your results 😃
Nowhere close to the FG knot. Maybe 45% break strength. I'm not sure what happened with this guy's FG knot, but during my practice and testing I routinely break lines tied with them outside the knot. Mainline break which signals 100% line strength retention.
You really need to do an experiment like this a minimum of 3 times to see if you have repeatable results. Good video though
Yep absolutely. Also, the results may not necessarily be the same for other line diameters.
On top of doing multiple test should make sure they stay still as possible. The Uni to Uni knot bucket was swinging a bit not to say that aided to the breakage but may have add some stress.
Good point, but three isn’t really enough either and this test is so vague....
I like the crazy alberto, havnt broken at the knot ever
The FG has always been my go to and I've never understood why people say it's difficult.
FG is a pain with ultralight line. Try it with 4lb leader to 6-10lb braid.
Agreed. I will say if you're struggling, anchor your braid on your right pinkie finger to control the tension on the mainline. You have to manage a lot of different tensions to get the knot to sit right while you're tying your wraps. Having it there allows you to not only keep it tense, but position that tension at the right angle to snug down the wraps as you go. As with any of these lots of practicing is the answer!
That's exactly how I tie mine Adam.
It really is the best and once your good at it its very quick and easy and if im doing it the night before i throw a small drop of gorilla glue on it, hardens like rubberish never had one break
all good things take times
Cool experiment! Thanks for doing it. Out of curiosity, did you do this experiment more than once? If so, did your results change?
chris the first time I filmed it, I made a mistake and didn’t have time to restart the experiment. So I had to redo it a second time and this was the result. I plan on doing it again in the future
albright knot was affected by the weight of the last bucket. The lip of the last bucket was resting on that one and line snapped when you added weight.
I like the test you ran..
I belive the FG is the stronger knot when tied correctly 🥴..
But for me the Albright knot has be far an away did its job, can be tied in 30sec or less and has never fail me on the water. It takes me 2+ hours to prep tackle before a tournament an if I started using the FG KNOT I wouldn't even get sleep the night before I'd be tying all night
*Have used the braided line for several years **enjoyable.fishing** recommend both for salmon in the summer as well as walleye through the ice. Can’t beat it for the price!*
My go to leader usually nylon/fluorocarbon copolymer to braid knot is the alberto, tie it in no time and only breakoffs I've had have been my mainline from abrasion. Holds up to hefty burbot, walleye and pike and that's all I need
Heck yeah
I use Albright knot and Double Uni Knot with Ruzutto trimming for final touch to avoid line slipping
For a while ,I was kinda obsessed with Huffnagle knot when I needed to attach heavy leader with 20lbs mainline. It was my considered pretty compact knot with double mainline,this knot never fail me in tug wars with 20-30lbs catfishes
Alberto is slightly different but 20%stronger.
Fg modified method i can tie under 1 minute.
@@robertcox9226 Now I use SC knot, easier for me compared to FG
FG knot is my favorite. I have found with all knots if you tie them enough you get very fast at it. I used to tie the blood knot back in my fly fishing days. I can tie the FG faster and I can only see half as good as I could back then.
There was no error in that experiment, it was the best experiment I've ever seen.
What's a good braid to braid knot? I've been getting snagged a bunch lately, and I need to add more line.
Many people tested the PR knot is stronger and easier to tie than FG knot, but I still using FG knot. If you have a time, please do the strength test of those two knots. Thanks
I tie the fg knot with line and leaders over 20lb test. Under 20lb i tie the double uni. These 2 knots are the only knots i'll ever need when joining lines. Theyve never once failed me.
Depends entirely on what kind of fishing I'm intending on doing, just catching any and every fish on 10-20lb light gear, I'll keep tying the good old double uni, never been broken off at that pound test, anything higher than 40lb, I'll tie the FG knot just because I feel like it doesn't get caught in the guides as much as a big old double uni, but for smaller lines, there's no need for the strongest knot, you're not going out to catch 80lb tarpon on 10lb gear, or at least you probably shouldn't be, and unless you're targeting Bonefish or hard fighting Jacks, you're not gonna find very much in the 20lb class that'll overpower a double uni knot.
look up an try the RP (royal polaris ) or john collins knot. it is smaller than the double uni an what is being used to catch yellowfin tuna in southern california with up to an above 80 lb braid
This made me feel a little better about my double uni. I guess I need to start using the FG for my “night before” knot. Truth is, I’m guilty of not retying leaders before a tournament. I haven’t lost a fish with that, but I’ve lost some baits.
We are all guilty of that haha..
Any knot when gets tight burns the leader. Alberto there are no knots to the leader. It only overlaps the braid and tights the braid .more tension there is stronger it gets. No other knot is strong as this one
I always use FG knot, you should try to test the carrot knot too, i think it would be close to the fg for strenght.
FG knots is the best for braided lines but it takes time to master it. I’m on blood knot. Works fine but for distance casting, I prefer FG for smooth reel through the rod rings.. Great test by the way!
Check out my recent testing videos… way better
I only run the Alberto knot unless I need the fg to cast smooth through my guides
Whatever works for sure 👍🏼
The next big innovation in line will be the elimination of knots between braid and fluorocarbon and use of a bonding agent and/or a small micro sleeve each line end can feed into and be sealed with heat or epoxy to bond the two lines together. People hate tying knots and a good engineer will put an end to the cumbersome knots. I am working on some innovations now to solve this problem.
Smart
I've been using the (Crazy)Alberto to join braid to leader, and I must say, it's an extremely strong knot. Never had it fail. If I get snagged and have to break off, the line will always break and leave the knot intact.
Fg knot at home pre outing and uni to uni when I need to tie quickly on the boat or kayak
Which gt knot did you do? Did you do it with a bimini twist?
I still use a uni/uni when in a hurry on all my rods except the ones with micro guides. I quit using fluorocarbon and started using copolymer for my leaders and I quit breaking off at braid to leader. Always at the lure.
Found the one that works 🙏🏼
The pr knot is the strongest, which we use for kingfish and pitch baiting for Marlin. We use the allbright knot for fish under 50lb.
I love the FG knot I can make a super long leader line and reel it past my eyes and not tear them up
This is the most versatile braid I've used, holds up well and casts far.
I see this is 2 years old. I would like to see the same thing done with the SC and the Yucatan knots in the mix. I would also like to see the knots after they break. Where a knot fails tells you everything about it's weakness.
Can I suggest using sand? You just pour the sand in until it breaks, then weigh the bucket.
I would like to see the yucatan knot go up against these too
I learned the double uni a cpl years ago and im deff really fast with it now i use uni know for about everything most of my line breaks happen down by my bait more than likely due to wear n tear from fish brush or whatever i dont think i have ever had a fail due to my knot breaking im pretty sure its the line itself not the knot. I know there are better knots for sure but im sticking with what works for me thanks for the video my friend
Thanks for watching
Did those lines break or di the knots actually give out?
No time to tie FG, have to go fishing !!
Thanks for sharing that man ;)
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Hi bro nice experiment, but do explain where does the failure occur... If the failure is on the knot itself or on the main line/ leader line...
Can you test the fog knot to the Dodd knot it a lot easier to tie and I switched from fog to Dodd
A couple of things:
In the olden days, they determined the pound test of a line by tying on say 10 pounds and on slack line dropping it 1 foot where slack is gone. If it held at 10lb but broke with 11lb, it was 10 lb test line.
Is that still how they still do it?
And, if it is, why did these lines break with only 5 pounds?
Also, did they break at the knot or somewhere on the line?
I've seen knots measured in %s of remaining line strength but with that I've seen FG at near 100%. I would assume the line it's self would be able to hold it's test but I'm not super knowledgeable on that stuff.
But to second above.
Where did the line break ( Was the line wrapped odd on one of the dowels making a stress point?)
But also repeats would be better. Any science needs repeat testing.
It's kind of like a rope. When you get a knot in a rope it reduces the strength of the rope at that point due to the bends/kinks on the rope by a certain percentage. Just like with tree work. We always use a bowline knot. Out of all the knots, it doesn't reduce the integrity of the rope as much as the other knots, and it can be untied most of the time even after being cinched down to ridiculously tight.
I would like to see where the lines broke as well.
Are the lines breaking at the knot?
The brand of line has a huge influence on each knot. Some knots do much better depending on the line brand and make up
RP (Red-Phillips) knot is easy, fast, small, and I’ve never had one break. I’d love to see how it stacks up against these?
Great videos! Keep it up.
mike obryant thanks man
Never lost a fish on my blood knot, I’ll just stick with that lol
Stick with what works, for sure
Awesome video ! FG is definitely the strongest no doubt, but it’s to much time to tie for me personally.
@@jeohvanydelgado7125 thanks man.
Got smoked on 65lb braid at a pier about a month ago. Spooled out about 250ish yards and the blood knot popped off like it was nothing. Idk what slammed it, but that knot was not the knot I was hoping it was going to be.
If you do this test again, can you focus a camera on the knot while adding the weights so we can see how the knots are reacting? Thanks and appreciate you for doing this test.
Yes, I need a new lens for that but it’s in the plans
Did you lubricate the line when you tied that double uni ? If not it could of been compromised
Yes
Practice makes perfect with knots, I can tie a fg in a couple of minutes with the resuto Finnish but in the beginning it took me ages
That seemed really low for 10# line. I can almost always get over the listed weight on braid fairly easily, and mono is usually pretty close to the listed weight (I’ve had Trilene Big Game hold more than the listed weight, definitely put 55 on 50, I almost think the 40 held just shy of 50 if memory serves).
Where did they break off at?
In water though, with a rod that absorbs some of the shock .. the knots
Tried learning the fg bit had no luck... it is a really hard knot imo. I use the double uni and never have had an issue, and its so much easier to tie.
For tuna we use fg or the pr knot exclusively . Pr is a bit of pain and doesn’t pass through the guides well when casting top water stick baits .
Got buckets but didn’t use water as a weight? Also 5lb?! How many turns did you do?
What aBout a crazy Alberto lol I use the double uni, easy for me to tie in all conditions.
How many loops did you make with the double uni?
I make 5-6 on each side
I use albright never had it fail on me before but i would like to get more proficient with the FG knot because its so slim
Hi mr cremeans again, don’t know what it is about bcs I don’t fish but it’s good editing lol!
Check out some of my newer videos
Since all but the FG knot failed under static load, I doubt that the stiffness of the dowels had anything to do with the knot failures.
Have you tried tie an alberto using a bobin, its pretty easy.
No I haven’t
The Uni starts to lose (badly) at lower test. Fishing with 4 Lb braid to 4 Lb or less fluoro (or mono), braid cuts the fluoro within the uni knot rendering it useless. Moving to a knot like the Alberto, where the load-bearing section of braid wraps around 2 sections of mono/fluoro, improves knot strength. I don’t test with buckets. Instead, I just test with a loop made from 1 section of braid and 1 section of fluoro. The ends of each section of line are tied together (braid-to-fluoro) to create a continuous loop containing 2 braid-to-fluoro knots. When this loop is pulled to see which knot wins, Alberto or Uni, the Alberto blows away the useless Uni. It’s great that some like the Uni at higher test, but my experience is that I’ll not waste my time with it for light line. Let me know if you disagree, but please do the test as I describe it prior to doing so. My thoughts…
I have tied and used all of these knots and the GT is by far the easiest, quickest and smallest of them all. Not sure what you are doing but almost zero GT failure at the knot.
Did the knots actually break apart/ come apart or did the actual lines break?
Knots
Wondering where the line got broke, was the leader? Braid? The knot? Great video, cheers!
The knot yes
Very well executed experiment I might have to say.
Thanks.. I’ve made a few other newer ones.. better ones
Hey mate quick question if I'll use 15lb braid what leader ratio should I use? Should I use 15lb florou as well? Or higher?
Personally I try to keep the line diameters close, it should say on the packaging. Typically you’re going to reduce the lb strength from your braid to your flouro, so with a 15 lb braid I’d rock a ~12 lb flouro
@@DishesandFishes thanks mate I will follow ur advice
Seems to me the two last buckets touch, and no. 4 rides on no. 3, hence line 3 breaks when you add the 5 pounds to bucket 4??
I just started using more knots and expanding my fishing and I just use figure eight knots to a swivel. I catfish though so less finesse is needed.
I HATE tying the FG knot, but I can guarantee it’s the strongest knot out there by a mile. I had a goose snag my braid on the way down after a cast, and the goose ended up getting a spook snagged in its wing, where it snapped the line at the double Palomar knot at the lure. I was using 25lbs braid and a 20lbs flouro leader. It didn’t even phase the FG knot. Absolutely blown away.
Love that
Your b-roll acting looks like straight-to-vhs award winning! 🤣🤣 But cool vid. I'm an FG and Albright user myself.
Lmao thanks man
I use the double uni all the time and it rarely fails me. I will, however, admit that I cannot tie an FG knot. I’ve tried, but it’s just too hard for me. Probably because I’m old and my vision isn’t the greatest. IDK. Thx
Maybe I’ll do a tutorial
* The length of the line being used has no bearing on the strength of the knot. If you're testing the strength of a particular brand of line, then you may want to use longer sections of line. A longer section may reveal manufacturing inconsistencies more readily than a short 8 inch section.
I use a RP knot can tie it in one minute and has never let me down one time as far as I me the rest of them junk
No Alberto knot? That's what I use and I love it. Small and goes through the guides but strong and easy to tie
I think that knot is synonymous with Albright knot… I’m not sure though
3:57 I don't think you gave the Albright knot a fair shake. Just before you added weight to the double uni bucket, it's lip was resting on the Albright bucket, thus adding more weight to the Albright bucket.
Disclaimer: I'm partial to the Albright.
Also: I am thinking about switching my leader ties to the FG knot. As for joining 2 lines for a top shot or additional line, what would be the best knot that will not make a mess in the spool?
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!👍
The PR is difficult (or should I rather say time consuming)... The FG is a good alternative to the PR when you are on the boat because it's easy and fast. It does require practice though. It's also always informative if you show where the line broke. Thanks.
I tie my PR Knots with a bobbing on the boat faster than I could ever tie a FG Knot !
I like the FG knot when I'm fishing ultra light with micro guides on my rod, it just goes through easier. On my rods with bigger eyes the double uni is my go to, but my experience is that it tightens up excessively after a fight with a large fish or log, and should probably be retied after that.
Yucatan knot is my favorite light line knot.
Did these all break at where the braid and fluoro connect?
Yes
@@DishesandFishes Thank you.
Once I learned how to tie the FG knot in my hand (not my teeth), all these other knots became obsolete. I can do a 20 wrap FG knot in under 2 minutes.
PR knot with a bobbin works perfectly and quickly...period
It took me FOREVER to proficiently tie an FG knot. Now it's pretty simple, but relatively more difficult to tie
Right. I will be tying it after this
Double blood knot with 9 twists each side is easier and faster to tie for me and more importantly I can look and see that it is perfect without having to find out the hard way. Plus it is no larger than an FG knot.
Can you do video on how to tie these knots?
Yes I am planning on it
Here's the setup. PENN Sargus 4000, Shimano Bassterra EV 90 - 100 hh, Sufix X8 braid .23/44lbs /300 meters usage saltwater spinning for Barramundis, Snappers.
What should be the ideal fluorocarbon leader poundage to be paired with the braid?
Someone told me to go with 70lb leader from Majorcraft Dangan. Would appreciate the advice and suggestions.
Yes 60-80 lb leader
Best fg knot..nice brother