The Nintendo Switch Official N64 Controller SURPRISED ME! Teardown & Review!
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- Today we take a look at the Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack N64 Controller. Unboxed, teardown & review!
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How did u get it my brother
so did it wear out over time?
Do you know if n64 controller works also for the wii u
The good thing: it's like the original Stick
The bad thing: it's like the original Stick.
Lasted longer and better than Joy con drifting and having the setting to add dead zones and drifting happening after a year...the problem is they added different readers on it
If it the same connecter. U can order a 3rd party n64 stick as gamecube stick tech. Sell it online. Able replace n64 stick. It might work with online n64 switch one. If connecter and the build is the same as old n64 controller sticks
Nintendo should sell them in funtastic colors, they have been really conservative on color options for all controllers the last few system cycles
I’d almost bet money it’s coming. Even those orange/black and green/black ones only released in Japan.
@@billyanderson321 wish i had taken you on that bet
@@jacobjenkins7362 you still can. If u win I’ll give you $1. If I win you have to give me your moms number.
Is classics they have to he that color
Actually the thumb stick on the new controller differs from the old one. The old is optical based and the new uses potentiometers to capture the stick movement.
This is the review i've been waiting for. Finally a thorough review instead of just an unboxing. Awesome job showing us a peek behind the curtains! Please let us know if you can get it to work in Retroarch. I need this for Goldeneye!
Mee too ive waiting for the teardown and review for the same thing,play again goldeneye 007.
a litle bit dissapointed Nintendo didnt replace the joystick mechanism,probably is not a easy job,we can expect RMA for this,my personal recomendarion is when warranty is close to expire play a lot mario party to get a joystick replacement (im just kidding).
"I do have it lubed up so it feels a little different..."
How did we not get a "That's what she said" out of that?
cuz were not the 12 year old we were when this controller came out
Nintendo needs to release Mario Party 1 quickly now that we know the stick is the same as with the original.
Maybe the’ll bring back the gloves too lol.
@@orangeTadpole Ha! We always used towels 🤣
The N64 control stick mechanism alone makes me want this controller. Being able to play Goldeneye and Perfect Dark with this would be great.
u want a controller that destroys itself?
@@Alex-vf8ww If you added lubrication to the mechanism it could be preserved for a very long time. I want one of these myself because I never got the chance to use a new n64 stick.
@@BoshMind Looks like the bowl already is. I'm guessing the black pieces the sticks move around in need some grease, too?
@@soridosuneku Yes. As those can get worn out as well. The three failure points of the mechanism is the bowl, the black pieces, and the plastic thumbstick itself.
@Alex Better than stick drift. The ground down parts of the original are incredibly easy to replace.
Thanks for spending the time to check out the analog stick inside. It was really cool to see the comparison too. Good stuff.
Not gonna lie, I'm still kinda pissed we never got a N64 Classic and this just fans the flames
no wondering why. If Nintendo can sell the Controller for 50$ alone, making an N64 Mini with 1 Controller and around 20 Games for like 70-80$ would make them less money. (i would take an N64 Mini all day)
@@UndeadCollector For one thing, I think the Mini Console Craze was dying down, and Nintendo would've chosen to develop their own emulators in-house. See, this is why Nintendo doesn't do so well on their own: Unlike Nintendo, SEGA actually got input from the fans.
Just emulate man. Screw Nintendo, they screw us too.
@@BalboaBaggins Do you want me to tell them this in a carefully worded email? Because I could do that, and they'd still be powerless to stop emulation websites.
@@BalboaBaggins I've been emulating for 20+ years on everything except my toaster (for now). Just kind of liked the mini consoles
After seeing the stick mechanism I completely lost confidence that stick will not suffer the same issues as the OG controller. It is very disappointing as I have been waiting to find a good N64 controller for years now.
two fantastic 3rd parrty options exist
@@Alex-vf8ww Care to name which brands ?
Use the gamecube stick. Its compatible
@@alexminasgerais the issue with the gamecube stick is that the underlying mechanism and sensitivity are different from an original n64 stick. it's something that's been hard to replicate, and games that are super sensitive to it like F-Zero X will make it apparently immediately. you can test for sensitivity in mario 64 as well but the difference is harder to suss out since it's mainly with tiptoe/walking speeds. even a third party controller like the retrobit I've got, while good, has sensitivity issues so I can't really play F-Zero with it, but Mario 64 and SF Rush are totally fine.
@@alexminasgerais i have one. Sensitivity is terrible on it.
Awesome video! I'm looking forward to getting both of mine tomorrow !
Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
This is every scalpers new favorite toy. Have fun chads
yup 139-150 bucks if ur lucky 90 bucks+27 worldwide shipping,etc
150$ like the gas prices 😆
@@joregvds967 you spent over $100 for a controller? I feel bad for you
@@vehtty i spend 50 euros, but thanks for worrying about me, sir.
Yes I was waiting for this!!! Thanks Ron.
From what I could see it wont be drop in compatible with the original stick. The original uses optical digital encoders (like gray encoding with two phase offset digital signals) while this stick centers around analog potentiometers (presents a ratiometric analog voltage). They work completely differently so would require extra circuitry to convert the signals. I was kinda hoping it was a more robustly designed version of the original stick that could be dropped into older controllers with broken sticks but looks like a no go without a microcontroller to convert the signals.
Thanks for sharing this video!
That's fascinating, it looks like they used the same design as old. Keep us up to date with the wear.
Always interesting videos .👍🏻
One day when I buy a house I'm gonna have a Ron's recommendation corner somewhere where all the cool stuff I picked up from your reviews.
"I got this one lubed up so it feels different" PHRASING!!!! :-)
😂
Finally, two years later i've been able to get one and i'm waiting for it to arrive. Nintendo is pretty good at replicating their legacy hardware, so this video gave me confidence in my purchase. Can't wait to finally use this.
That's pretty cool that there's a picture of the N64 controller over your profile picture when you're playing the games
Can’t wait to play Track and Field with one of these!
I was yelling at you "ITS IN THE EXPANSION SLOT" when you couldnt find where the rumble motor went lol
Been waitn for your review.. feel your the only one I follow who really understands N64 joysticks. Thank You!
Appreciate the teardown of the stick. I was curious to see if they used the same style as the original N64 and looks like they did.
Finally ordered my N64 switch controller today! Popped into Nintendo Direct and it was in stock!
4:10 Oh that makes sense, like where the rumble pak was! I never got to feel what it was like in that weird spot, I wonder if someone can compare how it feels
I want to get one soon the N64 controller is one of my favorites and that Oled screen looks nice the colors pop in this video.
I loved the mini spawn wave tare down 0/ The comparison video was a neat touch :)
Nice breakdown man! Thanks for showing the joystick assembly. Your braver than I am lol😜
Would love this in the future but yeah not paying the insane prices people want. I’ll just wait for Nintendo to restock;) the only game I think that would benefit from a dual analogue would be sin and punishment. Curious to know how that one plays because I found it pretty hard on original hardware. Still haven’t taken the plunge on the expansion pack myself so I can’t test it. Nice video bud love the channel!
Man i like your chill laid back videos. Your channel becoming one of my favs keep up the good content!
Appreciate the kind words man! Thanks~
I can't decide who are bigger gamers, Latinos or Brazilians lmao. Find yall on every retro related gaming vid here on TH-cam. Yall make for tough competition on fightcade for sure! Tchau bro!
I don’t have the strongest connection to the N64 however I am a fan of that co troller. It just felt right when playing Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye back in the day. I have spent too many hours with one of those in my hands. Thank you for showing this off @Madlittlepixel.
Nice Video Man!
ty for for showing us the insides
Short and to the point. No frills, just facts. Good video, broseph!
So much for shaping out for the atomic purple
Your videos are like a video game in wich you jump from hype train to hate train. Im literally laughing till I burst in tears. Thank you.
Great video!!
To me it's like a brand new controller from the 90s! Cant wait to get a switch
Most definitely gotta try putting this analog module into an og controller. Even if it means using some type of adapter for the plug or soldering the wires into a proper plug
If only they would restock... ive been wanting to buy one since they came out so i could take it apart and possibly mold/cast the stick/bowl in metal to reproduce for my old N64 controllers.
The 64 controllers are in stock now
The old mechanism was similar to a ball mouse: sensors and "wheels" that have slits in them where the light from sensors can shine through, showing the system where the position of the object is, in this case, let's say, Mario from Super Mario 64. Sorry for those technically inclined, but wanted to describe it in a way everyone could understand it.
Definitely would like to see it used on other hardware. I got a USB clone controller I use on emulation and would like to see if this would be a good replacement.
I've been waiting for this since day 1...
The new controller is true analog with strong springs to emulate the old one
Nice to see it is the original stick, at least it seems. This means more parts will be available for repairs.
Looks nice I'm getting one
Nice job. Should have mine tomorrow. Did not get the Genesis controller yet, but plan to.
If you ever plan on playing fighting games released on Sega platforms, get the 6-button variants from 8bitdo or Retro-bit.
@@tidepoolclipper8657 I already have 3 Retro-Bit Genesis controllers and an M30. 👍🏻
This controller looks good! I would get the online service if I didn't actually have an N64 with all the games coming out on the service.
I'm hearing that something about the drivers for this one are different from NES/SNES batches when it comes to trying to get it to run on PC bluetooth. Hopefully people get some solutions quick, because otherwise that'll be $10 extra for an adapter down the drain that I paid in prep for getting mine for some Retroarch Mupen64 action.
8bitdo will most likely update their adapter to support these controllers.
Use Zadig to replace driver.
Have that same harbor freight screwdriver set.
Does the n64 controller work with Turok 1 and 2 and Doom 64? Does the option in controllers and sensors, change button mapping option work with it? How laggy is it wired and wireless with retroarch parallel 64 core? I know there's another video coming with these answers.
You need to try this with the Intec Gaming Wireless Bluetooth Controller Adapter for N64!!!
I wanna see someone mod a og N64 controller with the internals of that one. The extra buttons could be modded into the cart slot.
They'll probably make a 3rd party adapter for the n64
Has anyone tried pairing this to anyone of those 3rd party bluetooth dongles from brooks or 8bitdo, etc, etc?
Yeah i always loved the n64 controller too
Great video thanks for doing this. I'm late to this party! That said, I've been hearing from GoldenEye players, or people reviewing these Switch N64 controllers, that they are more sensitive than the originals. I'm wondering if you find this to be the case but you didn't mention. I also realize there is a control stick configuration that you can do within the Switch settings. From what a friend told me, on PC N64 emulation using adapters, you had to go through the Windows similar control stick configuration in order to fix sensitivity issues. But you really have to carefully configure to do it properly, at least on the Windows configuration. Like maxing out the controller to its out edges during the configuration. Just curious! I can't buy one of these yet. Still trying.
Good video MLP,I still think the 8bit do controllers would be better than buying that 3 button genesis controller
DId I hear you say that the bowl is pre-lubed? cause that was the first thing I was planning on doing once I get my hands on it.
Oh, and have you tried the controller test function and see if the C buttons are mapped to the other Switch controller buttons? I wonder if:
B LC TC
A BC RC
becomes...
B Y CR (right stick click)
A X CL (left stick click)
Both $50… I know the pain. Plug wires for my 3cyl geo metro cost the same as plug wires for my 8cyl Chevy lol
Just realized the rumble motor is at that location to simulate the rumble pack you could get for the original N64 controllers... probably.
It's exactly where it use to be.
I would love to know what you can transfer from the new controller to the old controller.
Finaly after watched your Video my bigest Question is answered! Has it Rumble function inside or not? I found no Info about that before.
Listen, man, I know you have the IntecGaming Bluetooth N64 receiver. Does that work with this? That would just be awesome. From my research, the button mapping SHOULD work perfect, but I don't know for a fact. Could you test it?
i want one so bad but yes sold-out & you have to be a Nintendo sub lol i just want it for PC !
Put some silicone grease or an industrial plastic lubricant like some Krytox 205g0 people use for mechanical keyboards and it'll last a lot longer without affecting the feel.
how's the rumble? How's the memory pack error you had before did they incorporate that into the official controller? How's the button mapping?
It needs a dongle for the actual N64. I’d prefer to play on original hardware with an OEM wireless controller. Sega does what Nintendon’t.
You're old
@@bidensapedoooo wise*
@@dougkaplan1449 LOL best response ever
How does it work on the PIE or PC Emulation? Does it connect with bluetooth and does it also works wired? Thnx! Great video.. in my country the controllers are never in stock...
itz toadally amazing i luv it
It looks like the weight is missing from the shaft of the rumble motor.
They’re scalpers, resellers will resell close to retail, scalpers take advantage of a popular product, take it all and Jack the price up.
Thanks.
7:22 So does this come with a little grease inside? (Or should we all open it up and add some?)
Looks like it comes from the factory greased, at least the bowl and pivot-points of the gears.
Waiting for someone to make a readable Bluetooth dongle for the original console
I figured this controller wpuld be of good quality. I'll just get a wireless Retrobit Tribute 64 controller. Great review.
It functions almost identical to the original, it's awesome. Let's hope it uses a much more durable plastic so that the stick won't wear down like the originals did. They come greased this time which is good.
I want to see this controller working on real N64 hardware.
Im curious as to what will happen if you were to plug this controller into a PC running Steam. Will it recognize it as a standard Switch Pro Controller? Or just a generic gamepad?
Very good review! I want to take the time to say how much I especially like that you don't waste time or try to prolong the video by explaining the obvious like saying where every button is and what they do and are called etc. Lots of game and tech reviews are basically just plain descriptions of the products, much like you'd find in a manual or on the back of the box.
Like, if you'd wanted to do the typical youtuber dragging this out you'd explain how to connect it and set it up, and navigate the menus and plug in the goddamn usb charger. Like none of that stuff tells anyone if it's worth their money.
Instead, what we're given are some honest thoughts and impressions, and for that I thank you. Peace out.
Appreciate the kind words~
Is it ONLY a charging port or can you plug it into a PC using the usb?
Good question, SNES (along with the Pro) all can communicate over USB so don't see why they'd change that here.
Oh God, it looks like it still has the ball and socket joint on the stick. How much does this cost? Because I can't imagine it lasting much longer than the sticks on the originals.
I would save up money and buy a Nintendo 64 and a Brawler 64 controller. Nintendo can keep their updated N64 controller for the Switch and Nintendo can keep their N64 app for the Switch.
Do these work with the 8bitdo bluetooth dongles? 🤔
still waiting for when this is available again
From my understanding, that new stick is actually worse as we've added another set of parts that will wear down. The optical encoder wheels (that basically don't really wear down) used in the original seem to have been replaced by the same electrical resistance based mechanism modern controllers like the PS4 use (that also have drift issues with wear), meanwhile the old plastic bowl and axis parts that wore down in the original controller have been kept in this design.
You can only hope that the lube lasts long enough and the plastics used are a bit more resistant to wear but I highly doubt that.
Replacing those potentiometers is pretty easy, the problem is, yeah, the plastic. It looks like they put some lube, but it's still not optimal. That's very sad if you want to speedrun N64 games, and it looks like the only solution is the Steelbowl
Every controller's stick gears are plastic, and nintendo changed their weak N64 stick's plastic to strong nylon plastic since GC era.
PS4 no es moderna creo que es igual a ps5
I was so hopîng you'd try and swap parts with an original controller, and OEM Frankenstick would be a godsent for my DK64 controller.
I'd appreciate some elaboration on what the snes and nes switch online controllers can be used with besides the switch because i can't get them to work with my pi (correctly.) I did purchase the 8bitdo "retro receiver" which supposedly allows them to work with the classic mini snes and nes but i haven't tried yet.
I have the SNES controller and the N64 controller, both of them work on my PC with a bluetooth dongle.
@@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R -i don't PC game but i appreciate the response. Thank you.
@@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R -what dongle do you use? Maybe i can use it with my pi??
@@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R -9 times out of 10 the so-called community here won't even reply when i leave a question.
The spring action on the N64 controller is really tight. It wears down over time and gets looser. So maybe that is accurate? idk
When I plaid oot with normal switch controller my main issue was the oversensitive controls...does playing with the n64 controller fix that issue? That's my only thing
How does it compare to the Tribute64 for the expansion pack? I'm not sure I want to spend the $50 on this.
It's got the best stick for sure. The range is almost identical to the original.
This was cool but dang I wanted to see you swap that stick on an original N64 controller and see how it felt on an original console. I want to buy these controllers just to gut the sticks.
I wonder how the rumble compares to the old rumble pack
How is the joy stick in terms of sensitivity? The pro controller is way too sensitive for shooting arrows or slingshot in Zelda OOT when you can't use Z targeting... Such as the quiver and bullet bag upgrade mini games.
can you use it on other games? mario kart8 or smash ?
Great Teardown!
You can, but you can't remap the buttons.
I have to wait 2 more days until get my N64 controller
Is it possible to build the stick module into an old n64 controller?
The question I have for this controller is does it work on mario64 from the 3D allstars?