Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! Smartools: amzn.to/3aMFXzI Maxlithium: amzn.to/2OdC3rU AmpTorrent: amzn.to/2LsDeCP Tenavolts: amzn.to/3cUsrwB Sorbo: amzn.to/2YPrbT2 Pownergy: amzn.to/3jrkJLw Maxwel: amzn.to/39TERTg Blackube: amzn.to/3uKQ6q1 (no longer available) Safeloop: amzn.to/3rAnI7n (no longer available) OpicPlus & Vapcell purchased from liionwholesale.com/
For sure. You know you're getting a good quality show every time. I watch, whether the test involves something that interests me or not. Just a great job.
Agreed - not so much just 'because he invests time' - more when something should take time/effort, it's used. I never see something being tested and feel I'd want it done any other way.
I think some of these studies you are doing are priceless for people that don't have the money to buy it and do it. Saying that we can find out the best bang for our buck, I just wanna say thanks for the good content and the outcomes of the experiments.
yeah i really think it's super helpful in deciding what to buy. it just so happens he reviews a lot of the stuff that I also want to know which is best to buy so that's great.
@@ProjectFarm whats better lithium ion rechargeables or nimh? it seems nimh might be better for my needs as they discharge slower/have a greater capacity? but also dont have to buy a costly charger specific to lithium is that correct?
It's great to see you're still replying/taking suggestions from comments after the video has been out for so long, you are by far one of the most dedicated channels ever on TH-cam. Thank you for your constant insight on consumer products, you've been a great help to both my dad and I when it comes to choosing the best bang for buck products!
How In the universe did I just find this channel recently. You are one of the most honest, nicest, straight forward youtubers that I have ever seen. These videos really give me a lot of insight on what product brands to buy! Thank you so much for making these.
@@natethegr8230 if it was corrupt, VW, ford and GM would be a lot higher rated than they are but fortunately they are not. I say that because they are pretty much the biggest producers worldwide of cars
@@natethegr8230, how so? A lot of people confuse "Consumer Reports", with the others such as Consumers Guide, Consumers Digest, etc. "Consumer Reports" has a stellar reputation, though they are not as good as they used to be; I'm sure due to internet reviewers taking up the responsibility they used to do.
PF have good ratings because he show the actual testing and results, which is very entertaining. Consumer Report is more political, because they can be suited massively if they are too biased? I'm a Consumer Report subscriber , and they will get you in the ballpark for your shopping selections.
@@ProjectFarm please test a reputable brand like norseman or drill hog usa made drill bits, m42 cobalt vs m7 molybdenum drill bit in hardened steel or grade 8 bolts. M7 can tolerate higher heat, but m42 is harder.
I'm glad you didn't test the EBL's I tested yesterday. LOL Some of those Li-ion batteries did very well, I like the micro USB charging feature. I was surprised to see the voltage drop as much as it did under load. Thanks for another fantastic testing video, and the NiMH update!
You did an A+++ job with your testing!! Thanks for the positive feedback! Here's a link in case others want to check it out! th-cam.com/video/HRaa5Joe3bI/w-d-xo.html
The Li-ion AA batteries have electronics for charging and a buck for voltage..They will limit performance over a primary cell, take up space and so on. The performance limitations include voltage drop under load. This is not the cell impedance but the electronics also minimising current availability. This is guess work but I assume it is this way.
@@ProjectFarm I want to know if there is a charger that will keep more than just four fully charged and maintained. I am a mechanic in a shop with a LOT of heavy equioment, and I use a headlamp extensively, and I go through a LOT of batteries, for the headlamp and flashlights. I would love to know if such a charger exists, and how well they stack up. Also, a workup on solar chargers would be nice, too.
Yeah, I have a bunch of EBLs. Goofy how they have to be charged in pairs. A lot of devices, like flashlights and headlamps for example, use 3 batteries. Makes charging equally drained batteries near impossible.
Would love to see the same excellent detailed tests done on the #18650 recharcheable batteries. They seem to be powering everything these days, and their performance varies greatly among brands. Another amazing video!
flat tops aren't technically available to the consumer market due to them being unprotected. they're dangerous in the hands of the uninitiated. vapcell is the only brand that sells directly to consumers.
Other Reviewers: My tools aren't up to par, I just won't mention it. PF: My tools aren't up to par, so I will tell you and show you the new tool I bought for this. P.S. Here's what I bought (Link in the description)
Love how all your test show exactly how they are performed with progress in between, that kind of transparency makes us users happy to see... it allows the users to choose their products based on results, not just showing a chart or a commercial. Keep up the good work!
In future battery videos, for both rechargeable and non-rechargeable, it'd be great to see a few other tests. 1) How well they perform after and/or during being exposed to heat or cold. 2) How well non-rechargeable batteries perform and how many cycles they last using specialty battery chargers designed for non-rechargeables. (Yes, those work and are safe if you follow the guidelines.) 3) How many cycles the standard rechargeable batteries last and how well they perform up till the end. And, finally, 4) How many joules can the batteries survive? For example, if there's a surge while charging or short circuit from device usage.
@@hdezn26 You should check out the CAT S60 series cell phones. As a mechanic i use the S60 as my personal phone and work use. Tough as hell too. Much cheaper than most thermo devices and very mobile.
Omg !!! Is this the one that I requested? Probably a bunch of other people as well I'm sure, but I remember when I mentioned this one. Btw the usb chargable batteries are kinda cool.
Very cool, but I get the impression that they are all Chinese brands not technically allowed to be sold here. Probably not FCC licensed or whatever. Still, they are cool and I am open to trying one of them.
With 280 million views making these videos would provide a good part of the income, so my guess. If you are good at reviewing and do not accept bribes, then people will trust you. I must say that I am often surprised about how well he extracts what are the essential questions for the products, and knows how to find that out the answers. Then presents it in ways that almost everyone can understand. My criticism would be two points: - in the last time the speaking speed increased too much - the product bias is naturally US
I think it’s time to redo this test. There are a lot of new Lipo / Lithium brands on the market and the capacities are up over 3400mAh. Very impressive!
Some batteries need to be cycled a few times to get their full capacity. You may want to experiment to see if these get better or worse after a 3-5 cycles
Minister: "to have and to hold, in sickness and in heath, in good times and woe, for richer or poorer, keeping yourself solely unto her for as long as you both shall live?" Bride/Groom: "I do" Project farm from the audience: "We're gonna test that."
For most applications I think I will stick to NiMH for now, but I can see that super clean voltage being useful in certain applications. Cameras come to mind for example. Also, usb recharging might also be handy for something like a flashlight.
@@ProjectFarm i'd also like to mention that your reviews have proven quite invaluable. Many purchase decisions have been made informed by your reviews, and safe to say my car couldn't be happier!
Thank you for the testing and great insight as always. I would have liked a few more charts on the results, for example mAh/$ comparison for the li-ion batteries, and a ranking of % capacity lost for the NiMH. In general a bit more time spent on analysing the results would be great :)
I agree on the % lost for the NiMH batteries. Duracell had the most after two years, but it started out with the most. Which one had the highest % of retained energy? That would be even more useful to know.
I agree, and that’s something I remember liking about this channel when it was much younger. We as consumers aren’t always just chasing the highest performance, especially if an item exists in a realm where high performance isn’t a necessity for us. What we look for in these cases is how much value a product really provides us. Thanks to your channel we’ve learned manufacturers don’t always tell us the truth about the performance so we have to rely on the good testing and evaluations you do!
Been subd for several yrs, & as a part x mechanical engineer, u never fail to impress me with new ideas & solid science! I have grown to trust ur opinion or fact without fail or 2nd guess, TY!
I ABSOLUTELY love the way you put (chapters) for each different brand of battery. So after I look at the results of the test, I can go back to the specific brand I warm up to. It all happened all at the same moment. I had this thought. I'm gonna tell him that a chapter for each item type, would probably be well appreciated. And I look, and lo. You thought of it before me. So, cheerio.
I am glad I discovered the MH-C9000. It is a safe charger in that it will not allow me to charge bad battery. I had a non-smart charger previously and was shocked to find some of the bad batteries dangerously heated up. This channel is the best!
I'd really like to see an in-room portable "HEPA" filter/purifier test, where protection factor (or percent filtration) of airborne particles 0.3μm in diameter is measured, as well as airflow rate. Also, I'd really appreciate if you could include a home made 24" 7000+ CFM rated wideblade fan, combined with a Lennox X6675 MERV 16 (95%) filter taped directly together with no obvious leaks (I believe this will be one of the most effective AND most cost effective filtration devices for Covid). Although we keep hoping Covid is over, for those of us with compromised health and an endless supply of Covid variants, we will likely be relying on filtration technology to keep us safe for the foreseeable future.
Thank you for this great comparison! Choosing rechargeable batteries was always a hit or miss before. I have a lot of vintage handhelds, and stocked up on znter AA batteries and sorbo for AAA. I don't like the batteries with full size usb port because they're more bulky. The microusb batteries can potentially be charged on the fly, which is very convenient
I really appreciate you taking you time to do these videos. I check youtube every night for a new video from you.. I really appreciate the scientific way you take on these projects. I learn alot. I usually go buy the top performers in your tests. Thank you for all of your hard work
Two quick questions: 1: Have you considered doing a "best headlight bulb" test? 2: What happens to the used equipment when you're done with it? Do you resell it to viewers? Maybe with an autograph? :)
Thank you for your years of dedication to give us feedback on things we use. I don't know how you haven't sold out like most TH-cam creators have. I wouldn't blame you for giving in to stupid app games or food services eventually. I mean you need to recover the cost of the things you review for us. Please don't ever let companies that make things we actually need and use sway you.
I have Eneloop batteries from a decade ago that I'm still using, those things last forever. My use isn't daily stuff, but things like an XBOX controller that only gets used here and there, but they seem to perform pretty well still. Compared to what was available at the time, Eneloop was probably two generations ahead of everything else. At the time I'd get Energizer or whatever else you could find on the shelf, and those things wouldn't last you 2 years, but these Eneloops are still going literally 10-years later (I got them 2011).
Same here, I have Eneloops that are also about 10 years old and are still working. Other rechargables had to be thrown away after 2-4 years. Same for AAA Eneloop. Greets from germany
@@apisrehman4760 you didn't ask me, but the Energizer Rechargeable I've bought over the last decade have not been very good. They have not been used much, and yet they still won't hold a charge after a few years. That's where the Eneloops are so good, they just seemingly last forever. Obviously the old ones aren't going to be full capacity 10-years later, but they actually work. Where as the Duracell and Energizer and Amazon Basics batteries, after 2-3 years, they rarely still work. Not sure why there is such a big difference, but that's been my personal experience.
"Safeloop" - wonder what they were going for there... hmm... an interesting test would be to take these and put them on a NiMH charger to see which are smart enough to deal with that - since that could easily accidentally happen. The high voltage drop under load and, high cut-off voltage along with the high price will have me sticking to NiMH for a while.
LOL, poor attempt at piggybacking on Eneloop. I think most of the Lithiums have a batt protection along with the usb, so doubt they'd die. But then considering who is making them, that might be a good test after all.
@@boots7859 "I think most of the Lithiums have a batt protection" You would be surprised at some of the shit on the market. I can't remember the exact term, but I think there are "regulated" and "unregulated" 18650 cells. The unregulated ones have no intelligence to them. They'll discharge as much as you want and they'll overcharge as much as you want. They have better performance but they're also bigger fire hazards. The lower cost of making them gives companies an incentive to market their cells as regulated but not actually putting any kind of electronic regulation on them.
Same here. The 1.5v is nice but for most things other than incandescent flashlights eneloops work fine and have been the most trouble-free for me. Or "eneloop pro" for a few things that benefit from the higher mAH. There's also a wider assortment of chargers and I charge in banks of 8 without having to fuss with little USB cords. If these progress to where Sony, Panasonic or LG start making them I'll be more inclined to try. But... "Pownergy"? "Safeloop"? -- no thanks.
I love these reviews - I was surprised the smarttools - which has 50% of it's manufacturers ratings won the fan test for the lithiums. Now... can you do AAA's? So many portable devices use them now...
Again that is a impressive rapid fire of no nonsense information. I really appreciate the long term update about the NiMh cells. While considering to give other brands than eneloop a try, I only got one set of varta cells for a project where I was not sure if I see the thing again.
Vapcel makes good products, I have been using their analyzing charger for the last two years and it's been awesome. I run Duracell and Eneloop rechargeable batteries so I already knew they were good, nice to see it stands true here as well.
This video reminds me that I would like to see a shootout on rechargeable headlamps. Milwaukee, Klein, Energizer, and Craftsman are my brand recommendations to test since they can be store bought
I have the Black Diamond Storm headlamp and was watching this to figure out which triple As might be best for that. I figured the AA performance would be mirrored in the AAAs
Love the videos and they have helped me make some decisions and save some money, absolutely awesome stuff! One thing I'd personally like to see is a test of waterproofing sprays/coatings.
Was just thinking the same thing. Well, I can enjoy it now, lol. We sure as hell know kids these days wouldn’t go near a Gameboy since they have their ipads and such.
I'd like to see the ego brand tested in a cordless blower test. I have their hedge trimmer and it is a great tool that blew my mind the first time I uses it.
I approve of this video! Thanks for the information! The fan test reassured my experience with using LiMH Batteries in mini Synthesizers. They run for a long time but then suddenly die without the battery indicator dropping.
Couple video ideas- car batteries Phone charger boxes (best/fastest/long lasting phone charger /etc Tire test Michelin, good year, vrs cheaper tires Smart thermostats which saves the most money LED car headlights which are brightest and last longest compare to halogen as well Best led flashlight or headlights (ones that are worn on the head) Clearest hdtv cheap verses expensive Best washer and dryer brand Best tool batteries you might have already done this Best shoe cleaner Best car wax or wax tool Best pressure washer Best dishwasher brand
As a photographer I've been using Eneloops in my strobes for years, I really can't fault them but it's interesting to see how they stack up against alternatives in real terms. The one thing I found they did better than the few others I tried was cycle flashes extremely quickly - so a high current draw over a short period of time repeatedly - many batteries just couldn't do it - even some supposedly 'high power' ones!
I love this guy he’s very entertaining and honest and should get more love also I think I speak for everyone when he says we’re going to test that we all get excited
One way to know you are good at what you do is this: when you aren’t trying to sell me something, yet I feel compelled to give you money anyway. Amazing job! That 2 year follow up on the rechargeable batteries earned you a Patreon subscription from me. Keep up the great work!!!!
Nice video! I have been testing batteries for many years from Ni-Cad, rechargeable Alkaline, NiMH, and have found them all lacking in various degrees as noted in your video. My observation on NiMH is that the Energizer and Rayovac are not very good and Duracell and Eneloop are pretty good. In fact, my Eneloop batteries are so old, they were branded as Sanyo! I will keep an eye on the Lithium version as I have a few things that require the higher voltage that the NiMH has not been able to produce. As such, I still have to rely on disposable Alkaline batteries.
Man you're helping pilots out everywhere, AA's are highly stockpiled by us since the noise cancelling part of our headphones uses em, and they have to be replaced constantly. Last thing you want is your batteries blowing out in the middle of a flight. This is great!
My biggest turn-off to rechargeable AA's has always been their inconsistency to run at a stable voltage or charge reliably over long periods of time. Using some that are stable at 1.5V would be something to consider.
WHAT? They run extremely stable at 1.2v They have a remarkably flat discharge curve. Only the cheapest and poorest quality and badly designed device does not work well with them. Because the discharge curve exists INSIDE the discharge curve of an alkaline or CZ cell, they work with any well designed device. The discharge curve of both alkaline and CZ looks like this \ where the nicad/nimh looks like this ------ with tails on either end.
@@nuclearexplosion5841 Right. And high-drain devices, which you would want to use rechargeables with the most, also tend to be the ones that don't tolerate the lower voltage.
Would it be weird if MR.PF wore a lab coat to conduct all his tests? I love the level of ingenuity that goes into all the tests. I used to watch the videos that only pertained to my potential purchases but now I just watch them just to watch.
I know this is a year old, but between lithium rechargeable and standard rechargeable batteries, what would you pick? And do you have a favorite that you use at home? I am sick of using regular batteries, seems like such a waste. Definitely need aaa to start with.
@@livenhfree The nominal voltage is a good bit lower with NiMH batteries, which can be a bit of a nuisance for some devices that are dependent on their voltage.
Great video as always, and on a topic that is becoming a hot one! Am I mistaken or have you not made a AAA battery-comparison? Keep up the good job! I signed up on Patreon now!
@@davewolf8869 there's a lot of ignorance surrounding systems of measurement. It is often displayed by calling US Customary Imperial. Imperial didn't even come to be until 1836. The US developed our system in 1789. We borrowed names from the ancient system but that's it. We may have used a liquid measure but then the Empire adopted another measurement? I can't remember all the details myself. Then at some later date we all adopted the international inch. Which only further confuses people as to what came from where. The inch we use today is neither the old US nor Imperial one. A Swede actually made it. He made the best inches in the world so everyone beat a path to his door. Ford ultimately bought the guy and imported him to the USA. When you're as rich as Ford was you could do that sort of thing.
I want to go to the metric system as well so it's easy to do math with measurements, and it works better conceptually. I don't understand the meaning of the metric system intuitively but I do use it often. Perhaps I should just switch to Celsius and get used to it. It would be hard for a while but I could easily learn.
@@beez1717 metric has no advantages making measurements. There are supposedly some advantages to metric making conversions. Although we have computers today that can perform those calculations for us. So that benefit is less critical. Essentially there's an app for that.
Great video! Just a thought, it might not be the best comparison between NiMH and L-ion if you discharge them at different rates with different instruments. But if you were just re-testing the NiMH batteries after hard use, then no big deal. Thanks for making these!
really appreciate these long term tests with the results included in the video. A lot of the time you will see the start of a test and then you have to check back in a year for the results video.
Thank you for your testing! I had to sift through the german Amazon to find any of those, but i settled on the Blackube, as all the others that i could find had stupid long delivery times. What i would appreciate though, would be an overview screen with all the values tested, that would be quite nice to have after watching and hearing your opinion
Great video! As someone in the automotive world I would love to see some testing on Octane boosters to see which brand is snake oil and which brand performs the best.
I was expecting to skim through this video, skipping chunks, like I usually do with review videos. I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't have to. This video covers all of the essentials with none of the frilly bits. Pure, concentrated information. I really appreciate it. I think I'm going to pick the AmpTorrent, based on the way they charge (No plugs or sockets to break), the capacity, and the voltage under load.
Thank you so much for this! It has been a *swamp* going through various brands of rechargeable batteries. Some are complete garbage at least now we know which ones to keep an eye out for, thanks once again!
What do you do will all these extra products , have crazy garage sales every year🤣 iv wondered for a while where the other 12 chainsaws and 17 coffee mugs that lost the competition go
If I'm ever unsure on what product to buy I always come to this channel to check if he's tested it. If he has I'm always buying the one he approves and so far he's never let me down. Keep up the good work! And thank you.
FYI, the "Smartools" links to a different brand now. A sesrch for "Smartools" (after a struggle w/Amazon "correcting" to Smartwool) produced no battery listing.
I love my eneloop rechargeables. They are very reliable and last a long time. Japanese company too (Sanyo/Panasonic), a huge plus. Panasonic builds batteries for Tesla.
Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
Smartools: amzn.to/3aMFXzI
Maxlithium: amzn.to/2OdC3rU
AmpTorrent: amzn.to/2LsDeCP
Tenavolts: amzn.to/3cUsrwB
Sorbo: amzn.to/2YPrbT2
Pownergy: amzn.to/3jrkJLw
Maxwel: amzn.to/39TERTg
Blackube: amzn.to/3uKQ6q1 (no longer available)
Safeloop: amzn.to/3rAnI7n (no longer available)
OpicPlus & Vapcell purchased from liionwholesale.com/
I swear he’s one of the most time invested youtubers
Thanks for watching.
For sure. You know you're getting a good quality show every time. I watch, whether the test involves something that interests me or not. Just a great job.
Agreed - not so much just 'because he invests time' - more when something should take time/effort, it's used.
I never see something being tested and feel I'd want it done any other way.
Absolutely, and his videos have 0 nonsense, full packed of information, you blink and you miss out on some information, I really love project farm 👌
My favorite part is he gets to the point and doesn't spend 10 minutes just talking about what he's going to show.
I think some of these studies you are doing are priceless for people that don't have the money to buy it and do it. Saying that we can find out the best bang for our buck, I just wanna say thanks for the good content and the outcomes of the experiments.
You are welcome!
yeah i really think it's super helpful in deciding what to buy. it just so happens he reviews a lot of the stuff that I also want to know which is best to buy so that's great.
so whats the verdict here lol not sure if i should do laddas, eneloops, or lithium ones idek which
@@ProjectFarm whats better lithium ion rechargeables or nimh? it seems nimh might be better for my needs as they discharge slower/have a greater capacity? but also dont have to buy a costly charger specific to lithium is that correct?
@@alalal123421 I also would like to know the answer to this
Whenever I'm in the market for something, you literally determine which product I buy. Thank you for all the time you spent making these videos
You are so welcome!
Really, I have bought more than a few things that I wasn't familiar with, strictly from PF tests!
This guy has more impact on buying decisions than Consumer Reports!
@@802Garage companies should have a ( tested and verified by PF ) lable on their product
Right!? Because of Project Farm I went from a Dewalt guy to a Milwaukee guy🤣👌
It's great to see you're still replying/taking suggestions from comments after the video has been out for so long, you are by far one of the most dedicated channels ever on TH-cam. Thank you for your constant insight on consumer products, you've been a great help to both my dad and I when it comes to choosing the best bang for buck products!
Thanks so much!
After one-year the Project Farm presentation capability is still at at 110%!
Thanks so much!
Now days, this is where you come to get the best of the best and see the proof for yourself. Thank you for all your hard work and time.
You are welcome!
How In the universe did I just find this channel recently. You are one of the most honest, nicest, straight forward youtubers that I have ever seen. These videos really give me a lot of insight on what product brands to buy! Thank you so much for making these.
Welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Come back soon!
I watch his videos so I know which is best for me!👍🇺🇸🇮🇱
Amen
This testing methodology is insane. Love that you purchased a fan for each battery to run them all at once.
Thanks!
So when are products going to start saying “Approved by Project Farm” on the label? Lol
We're gonna test that.
I say that all the time. The dude is legit. Honest, hard working, Id totally trust anything that had his label on it.
Especially PF's Harbor Freight digital calipers that he's using (i have same calipers)
If it has that label I'll buy it any day because I know it's put in a fair test
Thanks for sharing.
Forget "Consumer Reports" when you have Project Farm!
Consumer reports is massively corrupt.
Thanks for the nice comment!
@@natethegr8230 if it was corrupt, VW, ford and GM would be a lot higher rated than they are but fortunately they are not. I say that because they are pretty much the biggest producers worldwide of cars
@@natethegr8230, how so? A lot of people confuse "Consumer Reports", with the others such as Consumers Guide, Consumers Digest, etc. "Consumer Reports" has a stellar reputation, though they are not as good as they used to be; I'm sure due to internet reviewers taking up the responsibility they used to do.
PF have good ratings because he show the actual testing and results, which is very entertaining. Consumer Report is more political, because they can be suited massively if they are too biased? I'm a Consumer Report subscriber , and they will get you in the ballpark for your shopping selections.
That is amazing that you took 2 years to do this. Thats dedication to your channel.
Thank you!
Revisiting this episode a year later, I still rate it an AA.
Thanks for the feedback.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ i don't need an intermediary to talk to God
This guy defines "I don't need sleep i need answers!"
Thanks for watching!
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m totally not watching this at 12:17am!
@@themaster408 I don’t know what your talking about I’m not watching at 1:54am
@@JaxHappy1 5:22 am 😬
I’m watching this at 12:07 am
I swear the amount of effort and time you put in every video is amazing you deserve the most subscribers on TH-cam
Thank you so much 😀
@@ProjectFarm please test a reputable brand like norseman or drill hog usa made drill bits, m42 cobalt vs m7 molybdenum drill bit in hardened steel or grade 8 bolts. M7 can tolerate higher heat, but m42 is harder.
Agree completely
@@ProjectFarm DEFINITELY! Dude, you rock! I frequently check your videos before buying tools or other equipment.
I'm glad you didn't test the EBL's I tested yesterday. LOL Some of those Li-ion batteries did very well, I like the micro USB charging feature. I was surprised to see the voltage drop as much as it did under load. Thanks for another fantastic testing video, and the NiMH update!
You did an A+++ job with your testing!! Thanks for the positive feedback! Here's a link in case others want to check it out! th-cam.com/video/HRaa5Joe3bI/w-d-xo.html
I find the usb charging annoying, as they don't seem to allow you to use a regular charger as an option. Usb or nothing.
The Li-ion AA batteries have electronics for charging and a buck for voltage..They will limit performance over a primary cell, take up space and so on. The performance limitations include voltage drop under load. This is not the cell impedance but the electronics also minimising current availability. This is guess work but I assume it is this way.
@@ProjectFarm I want to know if there is a charger that will keep more than just four fully charged and maintained.
I am a mechanic in a shop with a LOT of heavy equioment, and I use a headlamp extensively, and I go through a LOT of batteries, for the headlamp and flashlights.
I would love to know if such a charger exists, and how well they stack up.
Also, a workup on solar chargers would be nice, too.
Yeah, I have a bunch of EBLs. Goofy how they have to be charged in pairs. A lot of devices, like flashlights and headlamps for example, use 3 batteries. Makes charging equally drained batteries near impossible.
Would love to see the same excellent detailed tests done on the #18650 recharcheable batteries. They seem to be powering everything these days, and their performance varies greatly among brands. Another amazing video!
Also 14500 & 10440s
flat tops aren't technically available to the consumer market due to them being unprotected. they're dangerous in the hands of the uninitiated. vapcell is the only brand that sells directly to consumers.
Other Reviewers: My tools aren't up to par, I just won't mention it.
PF: My tools aren't up to par, so I will tell you and show you the new tool I bought for this. P.S. Here's what I bought (Link in the description)
Thanks for the feedback.
Forget the Super Bowl pregame, I'm watching some Project Farm testing!
Yeah
Project farm is WAY better then the super bowl!
@@ieatbatteries9998 yeah
@@ieatbatteries9998 Especially since they turned their backs on the U.S. No more NFL since they endorsed BLM.
Thank you very much!!
Extremely information-dense no-BS-small talk video. Fantastic! 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow, thanks!
Love how all your test show exactly how they are performed with progress in between, that kind of transparency makes us users happy to see...
it allows the users to choose their products based on results, not just showing a chart or a commercial. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
In future battery videos, for both rechargeable and non-rechargeable, it'd be great to see a few other tests. 1) How well they perform after and/or during being exposed to heat or cold. 2) How well non-rechargeable batteries perform and how many cycles they last using specialty battery chargers designed for non-rechargeables. (Yes, those work and are safe if you follow the guidelines.) 3) How many cycles the standard rechargeable batteries last and how well they perform up till the end. And, finally, 4) How many joules can the batteries survive? For example, if there's a surge while charging or short circuit from device usage.
Thanks for the video idea.
I saw the title of this video and actually went "oooooh" out loud!
Me too
Awesome!! Thank you!!
@@ProjectFarm I recommend your channel to everyone. Thanks for the service... Any chance on doing thermal imaging cameras ?
@@cuckingfunt9353 That would be a good one as I would like to see what has more "Bang for the Buck".
@@hdezn26 You should check out the CAT S60 series cell phones. As a mechanic i use the S60 as my personal phone and work use. Tough as hell too. Much cheaper than most thermo devices and very mobile.
I'd rather watch this than the Super Bowl.
Hi David, Thank you very much! Hope you have a great week!
This right here
Agreed.
A great comment. I highly agree.
Agree. Might be because I’m a patriots fan though lol
this guy deserves our respect for taking all the time and work to compare all those tools and things
Omg !!! Is this the one that I requested? Probably a bunch of other people as well I'm sure, but I remember when I mentioned this one. Btw the usb chargable batteries are kinda cool.
Yes and have less space for battery
Thanks for the recommendation for this test.
USB chargeable has a convenience factor, but it's also a point of failure.
Very cool, but I get the impression that they are all Chinese brands not technically allowed to be sold here. Probably not FCC licensed or whatever. Still, they are cool and I am open to trying one of them.
I lose a lot of charging devices.. So yes. Convenient for sure.
Cashier at the dollar store: "Sir, why do you need 12 fans in the winter?"
lol Thanks for watching.
one giant leap for battery kind
@William Lipinski one giant leap for battery kind
For his *onlyfans* post
@@garfieldandfriends1 haha i know you
The dedication you have is amazing. This must be so time consuming to run this channel.
Thanks so much!
@@ProjectFarm But part of the tests involve FARMABAGO!!!
@@lewiemcneely9143 or cousin Eddie
With 280 million views making these videos would provide a good part of the income, so my guess.
If you are good at reviewing and do not accept bribes, then people will trust you. I must say that I am often surprised about how well he extracts what are the essential questions for the products, and knows how to find that out the answers. Then presents it in ways that almost everyone can understand.
My criticism would be two points:
- in the last time the speaking speed increased too much
- the product bias is naturally US
@@etj4299 That'll work!
I think it’s time to redo this test. There are a lot of new Lipo / Lithium brands on the market and the capacities are up over 3400mAh. Very impressive!
Thanks for the suggestion.
Which brands you taking about?
Some batteries need to be cycled a few times to get their full capacity. You may want to experiment to see if these get better or worse after a 3-5 cycles
Minister: "to have and to hold, in sickness and in heath, in good times and woe, for richer or poorer, keeping yourself solely unto her for as long as you both shall live?"
Bride/Groom: "I do"
Project farm from the audience: "We're gonna test that."
LMAO
Wife fails 8/10 times
@@JC-uq5gi unless you are precision transmission
@@davewolf8869 If everyone you meet is a disappointment, they likely aren't the issue, lol
You have thought of almost everything with these tests
Thanks for the nice comment.
But bike pumps
He always manages to impress me with what he can come up with!
He gets all his ideas from viewers like you.
The effort that goes into these videos is impressive
Thanks!
Went with the AmpTorrent. Had a 4 dollar coupon on the item from Amazon. Thank you for this valuable information. Great asset with thorough tests.
You are welcome!
The amount of effort You put in these videos is insane!
Thanks so much!
A cost-per-amp table (and/or cost-per-runtime) would be a nice addition.
For most applications I think I will stick to NiMH for now, but I can see that super clean voltage being useful in certain applications. Cameras come to mind for example. Also, usb recharging might also be handy for something like a flashlight.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm i'd also like to mention that your reviews have proven quite invaluable. Many purchase decisions have been made informed by your reviews, and safe to say my car couldn't be happier!
Wow Duracell actually living up to its name, didn't see that coming!
Thanks for the feedback.
The most real life useful channel on the planet period!!!
Thank you good Sir for all your efforts 👍
You are welcome!
Thank you for the testing and great insight as always. I would have liked a few more charts on the results, for example mAh/$ comparison for the li-ion batteries, and a ranking of % capacity lost for the NiMH. In general a bit more time spent on analysing the results would be great :)
You are welcome. Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I agree on the % lost for the NiMH batteries. Duracell had the most after two years, but it started out with the most. Which one had the highest % of retained energy? That would be even more useful to know.
I agree, and that’s something I remember liking about this channel when it was much younger. We as consumers aren’t always just chasing the highest performance, especially if an item exists in a realm where high performance isn’t a necessity for us. What we look for in these cases is how much value a product really provides us. Thanks to your channel we’ve learned manufacturers don’t always tell us the truth about the performance so we have to rely on the good testing and evaluations you do!
Maybe a good idea for added content for Patreon subscribers - they could be given access to the raw data and charts
Been subd for several yrs, & as a part x mechanical engineer, u never fail to impress me with new ideas & solid science! I have grown to trust ur opinion or fact without fail or 2nd guess, TY!
Thank you very much!
That mount of work you put into these videos is absolutely mind boggling. Great work!
Thanks so much!
I ABSOLUTELY love the way you put (chapters) for each different brand of battery. So after I look at the results of the test, I can go back to the specific brand I warm up to. It all happened all at the same moment. I had this thought. I'm gonna tell him that a chapter for each item type, would probably be well appreciated. And I look, and lo. You thought of it before me. So, cheerio.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
I saw your vid on Seafoam and have been hooked since. Actual, factual reviews. I just doesn't get better. THANKS
Thanks and you are welcome!
I am glad I discovered the MH-C9000. It is a safe charger in that it will not allow me to charge bad battery. I had a non-smart charger previously and was shocked to find some of the bad batteries dangerously heated up. This channel is the best!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
I’d love to see an air purifier comparison. There are not a lot of unbiased tests comparing different brands
Thanks for the video idea.
Yes, ozone generator air purifier
I'd really like to see an in-room portable "HEPA" filter/purifier test, where protection factor (or percent filtration) of airborne particles 0.3μm in diameter is measured, as well as airflow rate.
Also, I'd really appreciate if you could include a home made 24" 7000+ CFM rated wideblade fan, combined with a Lennox X6675 MERV 16 (95%) filter taped directly together with no obvious leaks (I believe this will be one of the most effective AND most cost effective filtration devices for Covid).
Although we keep hoping Covid is over, for those of us with compromised health and an endless supply of Covid variants, we will likely be relying on filtration technology to keep us safe for the foreseeable future.
Yeah that would be great and just in time for allergy season.
This channel is so amazing! So much work put in! Thank you
And yes I'm watching PF instead of the super bowl!
Awesome! Thank you!
2 am. Wife “ where you going?” Pf “ gotta check on the batteries “. Wife “ can it wait? “ Pf “ my followers can’t wait, need to know the results! “
lol Thanks for watching.
The dedication you have to these videos and this channel is incredible.
I appreciate this channel so much that I actually let the ads run so he can get the ad revenue to keep making reviews. Crazy, right?
That’s funny, I do the same thing.
Thanks so much!
There was no ad for me this time, weird.
I love these videos I never really realized how much time and effort you put into these videos. Good job man.
Thanks so much!
"One giant leap for battery kind" - disappointed it wasn't followed up with "We're gonna test that!" 😂
Sorry I missed getting that in!
Thank you for this great comparison! Choosing rechargeable batteries was always a hit or miss before. I have a lot of vintage handhelds, and stocked up on znter AA batteries and sorbo for AAA. I don't like the batteries with full size usb port because they're more bulky. The microusb batteries can potentially be charged on the fly, which is very convenient
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
I really appreciate you taking you time to do these videos. I check youtube every night for a new video from you.. I really appreciate the scientific way you take on these projects. I learn alot. I usually go buy the top performers in your tests. Thank you for all of your hard work
You are so welcome!
Two quick questions:
1: Have you considered doing a "best headlight bulb" test?
2: What happens to the used equipment when you're done with it? Do you resell it to viewers? Maybe with an autograph? :)
Thank you for your years of dedication to give us feedback on things we use. I don't know how you haven't sold out like most TH-cam creators have. I wouldn't blame you for giving in to stupid app games or food services eventually. I mean you need to recover the cost of the things you review for us. Please don't ever let companies that make things we actually need and use sway you.
I have Eneloop batteries from a decade ago that I'm still using, those things last forever. My use isn't daily stuff, but things like an XBOX controller that only gets used here and there, but they seem to perform pretty well still. Compared to what was available at the time, Eneloop was probably two generations ahead of everything else. At the time I'd get Energizer or whatever else you could find on the shelf, and those things wouldn't last you 2 years, but these Eneloops are still going literally 10-years later (I got them 2011).
Thanks for sharing.
I agree. My eneloop last more than 5 years!! And still going strong.
Same here, I have Eneloops that are also about 10 years old and are still working. Other rechargables had to be thrown away after 2-4 years. Same for AAA Eneloop. Greets from germany
@@robertjanko6709 what do you think about energizer rechargeable batteries?
@@apisrehman4760 you didn't ask me, but the Energizer Rechargeable I've bought over the last decade have not been very good. They have not been used much, and yet they still won't hold a charge after a few years. That's where the Eneloops are so good, they just seemingly last forever. Obviously the old ones aren't going to be full capacity 10-years later, but they actually work. Where as the Duracell and Energizer and Amazon Basics batteries, after 2-3 years, they rarely still work. Not sure why there is such a big difference, but that's been my personal experience.
"Safeloop" - wonder what they were going for there... hmm... an interesting test would be to take these and put them on a NiMH charger to see which are smart enough to deal with that - since that could easily accidentally happen. The high voltage drop under load and, high cut-off voltage along with the high price will have me sticking to NiMH for a while.
LOL, poor attempt at piggybacking on Eneloop. I think most of the Lithiums have a batt protection along with the usb, so doubt they'd die. But then considering who is making them, that might be a good test after all.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@boots7859 "I think most of the Lithiums have a batt protection"
You would be surprised at some of the shit on the market. I can't remember the exact term, but I think there are "regulated" and "unregulated" 18650 cells. The unregulated ones have no intelligence to them. They'll discharge as much as you want and they'll overcharge as much as you want. They have better performance but they're also bigger fire hazards. The lower cost of making them gives companies an incentive to market their cells as regulated but not actually putting any kind of electronic regulation on them.
@@shawn576 “protected” is actually the proper term funny enough lol.
Same here. The 1.5v is nice but for most things other than incandescent flashlights eneloops work fine and have been the most trouble-free for me. Or "eneloop pro" for a few things that benefit from the higher mAH. There's also a wider assortment of chargers and I charge in banks of 8 without having to fuss with little USB cords. If these progress to where Sony, Panasonic or LG start making them I'll be more inclined to try. But... "Pownergy"? "Safeloop"? -- no thanks.
I love these reviews - I was surprised the smarttools - which has 50% of it's manufacturers ratings won the fan test for the lithiums.
Now... can you do AAA's? So many portable devices use them now...
Excellent suggestion!
Again that is a impressive rapid fire of no nonsense information.
I really appreciate the long term update about the NiMh cells.
While considering to give other brands than eneloop a try, I only got one set of varta cells for a project where I was not sure if I see the thing again.
Thank you very much!
Vapcel makes good products, I have been using their analyzing charger for the last two years and it's been awesome.
I run Duracell and Eneloop rechargeable batteries so I already knew they were good, nice to see it stands true here as well.
Thanks for the feedback.
This is the "Super Bowl" of TH-cam channels : )
Thanks!
This video reminds me that I would like to see a shootout on rechargeable headlamps. Milwaukee, Klein, Energizer, and Craftsman are my brand recommendations to test since they can be store bought
And, since we now know which batteries are the best, why not also include the best rechargeable batteries into something like a black diamond spot.
Thanks for the video idea.
Streamlight have been good to me
I have the Black Diamond Storm headlamp and was watching this to figure out which triple As might be best for that. I figured the AA performance would be mirrored in the AAAs
I've had a bunch of those crap out on me, but my black diamonds are going strong.
Love the videos and they have helped me make some decisions and save some money, absolutely awesome stuff!
One thing I'd personally like to see is a test of waterproofing sprays/coatings.
Thank you! Great suggestion! Thank you.
Thanks for all the work you put into this - it's great to see real world testing of all these marketing claims
Thanks and you are welcome!
I would have loved these as a kid with my gameboy back in the day
Was just thinking the same thing. Well, I can enjoy it now, lol. We sure as hell know kids these days wouldn’t go near a Gameboy since they have their ipads and such.
My Gameboy color woulda never had a break.
Thanks for sharing.
Suggestion for next video: cordless leaf blowers! 🤟
Great suggestion! Thank you.
I'd like to see the ego brand tested in a cordless blower test. I have their hedge trimmer and it is a great tool that blew my mind the first time I uses it.
I approve of this video! Thanks for the information! The fan test reassured my experience with using LiMH Batteries in mini Synthesizers. They run for a long time but then suddenly die without the battery indicator dropping.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Couple video ideas-
car batteries
Phone charger boxes (best/fastest/long lasting phone charger /etc
Tire test Michelin, good year, vrs cheaper tires
Smart thermostats which saves the most money
LED car headlights which are brightest and last longest compare to halogen as well
Best led flashlight or headlights (ones that are worn on the head)
Clearest hdtv cheap verses expensive
Best washer and dryer brand
Best tool batteries you might have already done this
Best shoe cleaner
Best car wax or wax tool
Best pressure washer
Best dishwasher brand
Thanks for the video ideas.
As a photographer I've been using Eneloops in my strobes for years, I really can't fault them but it's interesting to see how they stack up against alternatives in real terms. The one thing I found they did better than the few others I tried was cycle flashes extremely quickly - so a high current draw over a short period of time repeatedly - many batteries just couldn't do it - even some supposedly 'high power' ones!
Thanks for sharing.
I didn't know this existed! You just blew my mind.
Thanks for sharing.
I love this guy he’s very entertaining and honest and should get more love also I think I speak for everyone when he says we’re going to test that we all get excited
Thanks for the nice comment!
& said without sounding testy
One way to know you are good at what you do is this: when you aren’t trying to sell me something, yet I feel compelled to give you money anyway. Amazing job! That 2 year follow up on the rechargeable batteries earned you a Patreon subscription from me. Keep up the great work!!!!
I appreciate that! Thanks!
One thing I learned watching these videos for all these years is how much these companies lie on the capabilities of their products
Thats Capitalism for ya
What ever happen to truth in advertising? Congress needs to step up, an protect the consumer.
Nice video! I have been testing batteries for many years from Ni-Cad, rechargeable Alkaline, NiMH, and have found them all lacking in various degrees as noted in your video. My observation on NiMH is that the Energizer and Rayovac are not very good and Duracell and Eneloop are pretty good. In fact, my Eneloop batteries are so old, they were branded as Sanyo! I will keep an eye on the Lithium version as I have a few things that require the higher voltage that the NiMH has not been able to produce. As such, I still have to rely on disposable Alkaline batteries.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
Finally, the episode we've all been waiting for!
Glad to hear!
Man you're helping pilots out everywhere, AA's are highly stockpiled by us since the noise cancelling part of our headphones uses em, and they have to be replaced constantly. Last thing you want is your batteries blowing out in the middle of a flight. This is great!
Thanks!
But will they power the farmebago ? "We're going to test that."
How many rechargeable batteries does it take to start the farmabago?
lol Thanks for watching.
@@Power_Glove not even close, you need the capacity not just the voltage
@@Power_Glove Yes but that's only voltage.
Also the voltage drops a lot under load on those batteries, so you would need more for voltage and more still for capacity
Farmer/Private Underwriter Laboratory. The most comprehensive testing on TH-cam.
Thanks for the nice comment!
My biggest turn-off to rechargeable AA's has always been their inconsistency to run at a stable voltage or charge reliably over long periods of time. Using some that are stable at 1.5V would be something to consider.
Great point!
WHAT? They run extremely stable at 1.2v They have a remarkably flat discharge curve. Only the cheapest and poorest quality and badly designed device does not work well with them. Because the discharge curve exists INSIDE the discharge curve of an alkaline or CZ cell, they work with any well designed device. The discharge curve of both alkaline and CZ looks like this \ where the nicad/nimh looks like this ------ with tails on either end.
@@tarstarkusz a lot of stuff wont run at 1.2 volts though
@@nuclearexplosion5841 Like what?
@@nuclearexplosion5841 Right. And high-drain devices, which you would want to use rechargeables with the most, also tend to be the ones that don't tolerate the lower voltage.
Bought a bunch of ikea 2450s years ago and they still work great. Glad to see your testing backs that up.
Thanks!
Would it be weird if MR.PF wore a lab coat to conduct all his tests?
I love the level of ingenuity that goes into all the tests.
I used to watch the videos that only pertained to my potential purchases but now I just watch them just to watch.
When you were reading the specs of each battery, I was thinking “he’s going test that”.
Thanks for another great one!
You are welcome!
I know this is a year old, but between lithium rechargeable and standard rechargeable batteries, what would you pick? And do you have a favorite that you use at home? I am sick of using regular batteries, seems like such a waste. Definitely need aaa to start with.
Vapcell for capacity and Tenavolts for voltage constancy.
@@JohnUsp thanks
Well... the Eneloop (NiMH) lasted longer than the longest lithium (Vapcell). I don't know why I wouldn't buy the Eneloop after this trial.
@@livenhfree The nominal voltage is a good bit lower with NiMH batteries, which can be a bit of a nuisance for some devices that are dependent on their voltage.
I love how you keep your opinion to yourself and you report the facts. There’s no BS commentary. Keep it up man I appreciate you so much!
I appreciate that
Great video as always, and on a topic that is becoming a hot one!
Am I mistaken or have you not made a AAA battery-comparison?
Keep up the good job!
I signed up on Patreon now!
Thanks so much. Have not made a AAA battery-comparison. Thanks for becoming a Patreon!
Glad to see Project Farm is a metric dude, millimeters and grams, hope America will follow him someday!
I'm good with my US Customary units. Metric has absolutely nothing to offer me. So why would I ever use it?
Never gonna happen. Our infrastructure is imperial. We've also been to outer space more than anyone else. So put that in your pipe and smoke it
@@davewolf8869 there's a lot of ignorance surrounding systems of measurement. It is often displayed by calling US Customary Imperial. Imperial didn't even come to be until 1836. The US developed our system in 1789. We borrowed names from the ancient system but that's it. We may have used a liquid measure but then the Empire adopted another measurement? I can't remember all the details myself. Then at some later date we all adopted the international inch. Which only further confuses people as to what came from where. The inch we use today is neither the old US nor Imperial one. A Swede actually made it. He made the best inches in the world so everyone beat a path to his door. Ford ultimately bought the guy and imported him to the USA. When you're as rich as Ford was you could do that sort of thing.
I want to go to the metric system as well so it's easy to do math with measurements, and it works better conceptually. I don't understand the meaning of the metric system intuitively but I do use it often. Perhaps I should just switch to Celsius and get used to it. It would be hard for a while but I could easily learn.
@@beez1717 metric has no advantages making measurements. There are supposedly some advantages to metric making conversions. Although we have computers today that can perform those calculations for us. So that benefit is less critical. Essentially there's an app for that.
Great video! Just a thought, it might not be the best comparison between NiMH and L-ion if you discharge them at different rates with different instruments. But if you were just re-testing the NiMH batteries after hard use, then no big deal. Thanks for making these!
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
really appreciate these long term tests with the results included in the video. A lot of the time you will see the start of a test and then you have to check back in a year for the results video.
You are welcome!
Thank you for your testing! I had to sift through the german Amazon to find any of those, but i settled on the Blackube, as all the others that i could find had stupid long delivery times.
What i would appreciate though, would be an overview screen with all the values tested, that would be quite nice to have after watching and hearing your opinion
That's strange, looks like TH-cam unsubbed me for some reason. Not to worry, I subscribed once again! Thanks for the content Todd 😊
Cool, thanks.
Great video! As someone in the automotive world I would love to see some testing on Octane boosters to see which brand is snake oil and which brand performs the best.
Thank you! Thanks for the video idea.
I was expecting to skim through this video, skipping chunks, like I usually do with review videos.
I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't have to.
This video covers all of the essentials with none of the frilly bits. Pure, concentrated information. I really appreciate it.
I think I'm going to pick the AmpTorrent, based on the way they charge (No plugs or sockets to break), the capacity, and the voltage under load.
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this! It has been a *swamp* going through various brands of rechargeable batteries. Some are complete garbage at least now we know which ones to keep an eye out for, thanks once again!
You are welcome!
What do you do will all these extra products , have crazy garage sales every year🤣 iv wondered for a while where the other 12 chainsaws and 17 coffee mugs that lost the competition go
Friends and neighbours
I could only imagine an estate sale.....
Donate the extras in my community.
@@ProjectFarm that's awesome!!
@@ProjectFarm ...and the community is saying nooooooo .. we don't need any more tools :)
"Watch this one man's secrets ,rechargeable battery companies hate him."
Thanks for watching.
If I'm ever unsure on what product to buy I always come to this channel to check if he's tested it. If he has I'm always buying the one he approves and so far he's never let me down. Keep up the good work! And thank you.
Thank you, will do!
I swear any company is sweating like crazy when they here from PF, “Let’s test that!”
Especially because he reads all the BS that people put to advertise their products .
Best damn channel on youtube.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback!
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FYI, the "Smartools" links to a different brand now. A sesrch for "Smartools" (after a struggle w/Amazon "correcting" to Smartwool) produced no battery listing.
not enough O's bro, its smartoools. 3 Os not 2.
www.smartoools.com/
they have 9 volts and Cs too!
It’s Smartoools (three o’s) by Lankoo.
@@therealmakmillion I still can't find them anywhere
@@Steven-gv1ke Go on Amazon and put B08C7SQTMW into the search bar, if the link doesn’t work.
@@therealmakmillion Thanks.
I love my eneloop rechargeables. They are very reliable and last a long time. Japanese company too (Sanyo/Panasonic), a huge plus. Panasonic builds batteries for Tesla.
Thanks for the feedback.