Thanks to everyone who requested this one. I've had a lot of questions regarding which battery tested I used. It's a Foxwell BT-705, which I purchased. Here's the link. Thanks again, Todd amzn.to/34lBPVF
Bought a everstart Walmart batt 1.5 yrs ago because the last one lasted an incredible 7.5 yrs! However, after recieving 3 duds in a row, being disabled, i went to Autozone & got a good one this time.
This channel is something else. None like it in TH-cam. 99% of TH-cam is out here pushing ads for sponsorships they don't even believe in. Keep up the great work
One of your best videos. I replaced my wife's battery with an Everstart recently and it was just reassuring to know that my man PF, gave it the thumbs up.
I just bought the same battery for my wife’s car. Also, I’ve had an Everestart in my tractor for 8+(possibly 10, just can’t remember what year I bought it) years and it still fires up every time.
Agree 100% - when I can’t sleep at night I’m watching Project Farm - lol lol !!! I’ve also had requests to see the videos in my shop’s engine rebuild room
@@ProjectFarm Man you know what's really silly? Manufactures have known since at least 2015 how to extend the life cycle of lead acid batteries by 150% to 250% with just a tiny bit .5% to 1% of cheap graphene yet they haven't done it yet. I believe some manufacturers in Australia did sell batteries with this modification and charged like double lol. Talk about a scam. It should be a crime against humanity that these big manufacturers control the market like this. Proof: pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/ra/c5ra11114e For even better more recent studies with 250% better etc just google lead acid battery and graphene. Great content as always!
Agreed, I've been a automotive technician for over 30 years and this guy is in one of the best on TH-cam. He breaks it down correctly for everyone. Much respect.
@@ProjectFarm I know this is a couple years old,and a VERY good VID. I REALLY liked your recent review of the LTT Screwdriver! I knew you just couldn't wait to get your hands on it! I'm a loyal fan of BOTH your channels !!! I'll be digging through your archive for any EXIDE comparisons,hoping to find some. After i hate Interstate,I'm brand loyal to Exide.😎 Keep up the good work my man,as a retired EE,you do GREAT!!
Here in Australia I have just come across this channel. It is excellent!! The constantly innovative ways to test product never ceases to amaze me. Great public service done well. Cheers.
Right!?! Stumbled upon one of his videos a month ago. Best choice I made that month!
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Thank you for having integrity and character to turn down sponsorship, very accurate and real scenarios are answered in your videos. They also help consumers greatly if we feel confused. thanks again homie
"I say no to every single sponsor opportunity." That's why I trust his reviews, every other TH-cam channel is saturated with hidden sponsors, and biased/uneducated reviews. We appreciate you!
Man, I remember when a premium 3 year replacement battery was about $50-60 depending on the size. It's insane that now most premium batteries are wayyy over $100 and a good portion of them from AutoZone/Advance Auto Parts are over $200. That's not including the AGM batteries. They are $300 or more now...
Auto zone batteries and the rest are Hype. Even Interstate you Gotta watch who your buying it from. With the current administration taking a hatchet to the USA, I found great reliability for the Walmart Ever start battery and just replace it with a free one every 6-8 months because that's about how long they last. If they burn a cell, they replace free for 1 yr of purchase .Cars are junk too these newer ones. CVT transmission's, etc... Just buy a 2016 Toyota and stay away from kia and their inferior metal they use on their crankshaft. If you see green on the posts, you can sand them down and seal them with metal bond or Jb weld at the post seal where the connect and the gasses don't release and the batteries will last forever.
If you notice, the everstart has a 5yr warranty. The current pics on Walmart show them with a 3yr warranty! Granted those are pics, not the actual product. But I'm assuming they're up to date since the warranty period dropped... Just like everything else rising/decreasing to the benefit of companies.
@@meme5887The 3 year warranty is the free replacement period. No battery, with the exception of the platinum AGM batteries, has a free replacement period longer than 3 years. Depending on what quality level EverStart battery you are buying that 5 year warranty was for anywhere from 4 to 2 years of pro-rated warranty. Not a free replacement period.
Need more guys like this in all fields of products we buy. Because alot of ppl get fooled by slick marketing and stunts. Do your research and save your hard earned money
Reading this kind of comments, and remembering that there exist individuals like PF, that simply will never be bought, because a great purpose is more important than money, is really touching actually. Of course we are lucky that there are individuals that do great (or at least good) financially already, because otherwise it's quite easy for corporations/companies to, literally, buy people... So I wish to PF and all his family, and to ourselves, stay healthy.
There are some outstanding reviewers on TH-cam. But, in my opinion, you have the most well thought out and informative product reviews. The detail and effort that you put into these videos is second to none. Thank you sir!
Sorry PF, the real battery testing is a real world atmosphere. Interstate batteries are very good in real world conditions. Walmart batteries are not worth it. Napa gold went bad for me in 2 years. You need to remember that dust on the batteries will drain it. Keep your batteries clean. I actually put 1” styrofoam underneath my 4 AGM batteries in my Peterbilt and now up to 4 years on them. Plus they power my refrigerator. Vibration can be a killer on batteries and the heat is harder on them than the cold for longevity. I run Duracell on my wheel horse rider and my Allis Chalmers CA tractor with very good results so far.
"I say no to every single sponsorship opportunity" - You are amazing my friend. Please keep doing what you're doing. I wish there were more people like you in the world.
I shelled out extra to get an AGM battery 5 years ago, and it's still going strong. It's never not started. Lead acid ones have always gone dead every 2 or 3 years for me, so I'm convinced it's worth it.
In the old days kids we had to be lucky enough to A: live in vicinity of a guy this smart and B: be lucky enough to cross paths with them to be able to gain the knowledge from him. Thanks for your service to mankind.
@@kevinerhartjr.273 Seriously? Even if you know all of the listed ratings on all commercially available batteries, which you don't, there's almost a guarantee that the listed ratings on most batteries aren't correct in any given situation. Also, I went to high school and I know a lot of people that went to high school. I've never heard of an automotive battery class in high school, not even in shop class so I know you didn't learn any of this in school.
@@kevinerhartjr.273 Ya, we all did. The concept of electricity. This guy is testing specific batteries and the claims that their manufacturers make about the specifications of them. That's what the op was talking about. You're kinda slow, huh?
Imagine ProjectFarm asking you: "You want something from the fridge? We have over 12 kinds motor oil, diesel fuel with additives, Jump start kits, car batteries"
Thanks! As an engineer and drag racer I really appreciate the effort and testing regimes that are truly scientific and not just opinions like most other videos I see. Objectivity is key. Thank You for all you do. A Suggested test would be DC to AC Converters in the 2000 to 3000 watt range which most would put in their car trailers or RV's and are in the $150 to $400 range in price. Thanks ! Tom
400.00 will get you a quality 1,000 watt inverter . A quality 3,000 watt inverter is going to be in the 1500.00 range . Victron is the name worth the money .
@@ProjectFarm I drive 1,000 kilometers a year and bought a new Everstart battery. The whole time some CAA thing for mileage is connected to the OBD2 port to save a thousand dollars a year on insurance and I drive an average of one third of a mile per trip, I bought the battery exactly 2 years ago and now I finally had to put it on a charger. The Motomaster Eliminator charger reads 30 percent when I first connected it at 60 degrees Fahrenheit. Honda CRV so the Everstart works well doing very short trips and I have a connected car alarm the entire 2 years. Paid $136.97 plus tax in Ontario, Canada at the time 2 years ago. I installed it myself and hoisted the battery using only one hand.
I was stranded out of town during a family emergency when I bought an Everstart at Walmart, expecting it to last until I could get a better battery. 6 years later it is still going strong.
Time to load test your battery,( this is cheap & will tell you if its time to replace it).. I used to be in the repair business & it's a false savings after a battery with low voltage shortens or even destroys your alternator or starter . It's much the same as putting an electric lawn mower at the end of a long skinny underrated extension cord .The motor struggles under low voltage & gets too hot..Ditto with the car starter, & the alternator will charge all the time trying to bring the voltage up to where sensitive computer controls can function properly.
Walmart's batteries are made by Johnson Controls. They're good. Exide and JC are the biggest manufacturers and they pretty much make up the entire market for lead-acid.
The ONLY guy who really compare batteries in a scientific way!!! No BS, just the real deal! Everyone else: "I like xyz, I feel like this is a good battery" 🤦
my dads battery shit the bed and i told him what he needed and he said "what, you've been working in an autobody shop for 2 weeks and now you know everything?" and i responded with "no my best friend project farm has taught me a lot" thank you personally for making me seem smart i love you with all my heart
Great guy who's looking out for the interest of his viewers, Not big business! I applaud this guy for all of his hard work. These tests are expensive and very time consuming. Keep these great videos coming. THANK YOU!
Yes it can be costly thumbs up thanks for the information. Batteries are very costly . Will POWs or something along that line his vids pop up that you want to jump in th o the rabbit hole it gets deep. An confusing
I'm a retired EE with 45 years professional experience. Excellent analysis and I especially appreciate the graphs. Since battery sources are fluid, it may be time to refresh this topic.
Just had to get one today, and yeah...$300. No way I was paying that, nor was I paying the over $200 for some. I live in Texas, and no matter the battery, it seems they all last 3 years due to the heat. So- went with the usual EverStart Maxx at $120
You're a treasure. Your voice has a nice delivery, your production is simple and consistent, not at all sloppy. Your tests and math are straightforward and easy to take in. For products testing on TH-cam you are top self.👍
I personally want to say thank you for everything your doing and not selling out like everybody else. You keep it real and actually have very scientific ways of hard testing items that us hard working americans use on a daily basis but dont necessarily have the means to get the name brand on everything. So I'm sure I say this for everybody when I say thank you for being true and genuine.
Thanks for doing this video! I've always been happy with Everstart batteries in all our vehicles. Yours is by far the best independent testing channel on TH-cam! Keep up the excellent work!
This morning the wífe called me just after she left for work, told me she thinks her car battery seems like it's getting weak. So the first thing I thought of was watching this video months and months ago. Came right back to view it probably for the 3rs time now. Man thank you so much for the content you put out. It is truly priceless in so many ways.
@@virtuosowins I did go with the Walmart Everstart for the first time. I usually would try to source an Interstate but I did the Walmart this time for 2 reasons. 1. For the price and results of this videos test and the fact that everyone has a Walmart in there back yard. 2. Because the batteries I feel get sold often at Walmart I think they get a continuous fresh supply. Batteries that sit and don't sell will age and you won't get the full life span of cells inside.
@@Washman-jw3hl Sound rationale and decision making, way to go - Happy for you. As for me, I have no one do these tests in India for the car batteries we have here but in general we drive less per day so I think my own battery will last for a while.
I've watched this show over the years. . . As time goes on, this "show" continues making great videos by investing in better equipment/gear. Great job Project Farm!
I’m always impressed with the content Project Farm produces and his integrity; consistent, rigorous, useful tests on products we all use. Its a gift to us all’
Thank you for making this video! I recently got a Toyota brand battery for my Civic (Johnson Controls also makes Toyota brand batteries). It cost the same as the top-line EverStart Platinum battery at Walmart and offered a superior warranty, 3 years free replacement, 4 additional years prorated.
I can't even begin to describe how much your videos and your channel means to me. Please keep doing what you're doing! I love watching your videos for referencing something specific and also just playing them back to back as I fall asleep at night. Such good information and seriously good integrity.
I had an everstart last 3 days on me and the replacement lasted about a month. It actually saddens me to find out half the batteries on here are all made in the same factory. I had a die hard gold last 15 years never went dead for those 10 years until one cold winter.
just FYI you can make them last well beyond that by doing desulfation process. look it up. desulfate every 2 years too for maintenance. "sweet project cars battery rejuvenation method" you cant condition/desulfate AGMs tho so they're inferior to me.
Best battery I ever had was a VW (Autobhan) battery in my 03 Golf, the battery, lasted 9 years. Coldest start in that 9 years was -42F (Canada) Never had a battery since that lasted as long. most i get now is 4 to 5 years.
@@bentnickel7487 then tell other people on TH-cam when you see their comments on videos which would also enjoy this content. I do it all the time, including 5 seconds ago in my last comment. This time it wasn't for PF, but there are other greats of course.
PF may not have 1mm subscribers but have you looked at how many people are viewing the videos? 320K views in 1 day isn't bad. I think a lot of people see the videos even if not subscribed. It is an excellent channel and I understand where you are coming from.
3 years later and they are even more... Just wanted to Thank You, I watched the video and found Walmart had the battery for 80 bucks total. Love your channel
But then again that’s his job. Some people spend 35hrs a week working on some bullshit to make other people rich. So what is spending 35hrs for all this? If he makes almost 1mil views = 1k euro lets say. So for a full week worth of work. That’s worth the effort. And especially as he’s his own boss. So i mean...yes takes tome but that’s his job haha
Used to work at Johnson Controls and tho the outside form is the same, internally there are important differences. Typically the less expensive batteries have thinner plates and not much room at the bottom to capture material that sloughs off the plates over time. If this plate material builds up enough it will cause a short between the plates and the battery is dead. Also, the brand has control over the design of the plates. The least expensive may have lead pickups shaped like a comb, where the better batteries gather electrons with a fractal design and are more able to handle heavier loads as well as charge more quickly. Because of the identical case, sometimes a lower cost label gets put on a better battery. And vice versa.
my experience that while inexpensive and somehow winning this "test", Everstart batteries are some of the worst. Very rarely make their three year warranty. I've literally had a customer who bought one on a Wednesday evening, and Thursday afternoon it was dead
Is the Everstart Deep Cycle and the Everstart Maxx Deep Cycle the same battery. It seems they might be now. Just the Maxx is $13 more with a 2 year warranty
My 2008 Subaru Outback likes to kill off it's battery around every 4 years. The stock battery lasted 4 years. Replaced with a Les Schwab made by Johnson Controls that lasted 46 months and died. The it was replaced with a Walmart Everstart Johnson Controls battery that lasted 45 months and flat out died. Now there's a Johnson Controls made Interstate in it and fingers are crossed. Will it make it past 48 months?
All the different brand names are bullshit. There are only a handful of lead acid battery manufacturers left in North America and one manufacturer might make same battery for 4 or 5 different brands. Only thing different is sticker on it.
I've been a subscriber to this channel for a long time. My car needs a new battery and I knew exactly where I was going to check to see the best bang for the buck. Thanks for taking the time to do these 👍
I always use the Walmart Battery. Main reason it that there is almost always a Walmart anywhere I travel in case of a warranty issue. Years ago I had a battery die that was under warranty but there wasn’t any dealer where I was so I ended up paying for another battery. Nice to see it was a top performer.
Unfortunately, Wal-Mart has shown they cannot be trusted to be there when needed. They closed down their auto service centers during the COVID debacle even though auto repair is an essential service that was not subject to any restrictions (certainly not in my state, where there were very few restrictions by mandate). Every other repair facility I know of remained open, including chain and independent. Wal-Mart made themselves completely unavailable for weeks on end, by choice, when people needed them.
@@tid418 i think considering that auto service is not walmart's main function, it made sense to scale down unnecessary services during the height of the pandemic.
This dude does what everyone wants to know, but can't afford. In other words, you're doing God's work. EDIT: capitalization because i'm a patriot and a christian.
@mike brink ...but I will say a lot of Walmart's items are not Walmart's items. Walmart just slaps their name on the product like great valley but it's really another company just using their name
@@ProjectFarm RV 6v golf cart style batteries are all over the map on value vs cost...and each manufacturer of course claims the best. Could you please test these types, including Lithium Ion, AGM etc...many are used in solar arrays. TOOOO much hype out there to have confidence in claims. Thanks, LOVE your videos...refer to you all the time.
I enjoyed this comparison vid. I used to sell batteries for Walmart in the early 90's. At that time they were made by B&G Technologies. I received more in returns than I sold, and I told everyone this so they would avoid purchasing a battery from Walmart. Nice to see Walmart corrected the problem.
I got 2 very long scam advertisements, one trying to sell a book to revive any kind of dead battery and another for an overpriced bluetooth obd2 reader. Found your comment and wrote this on my phone before they were over
@@MGXsport I don't think so. I don't think he abused these batteries at all. A new customer of these batteries would do just great. All the same, it wouldn't feel right, but I think the batteries would be fine. He never started engines with them. Now that would be harsh. Also, deep drains damage batteries. He never did that. Did you know that there is a small break in for batteries before they fully perform? If he stressed them more they'd show up with even MORE cold cranking amps on their tests. At least that's how my preferred battery brands behave. I don't know who makes batteries for GM for example, but after pushing them on a car with more issues than just the bad battery they have had, I've seen them turn out with an extra 200 cold cranking AMPS after 2 weeks of use from a customer.
FYI, since Clarios bought out Johnson Controls (JCI) they have significantly cheapened the batteries. I used to prefer JCI batteries but the last 10 or so I have purchased since the 2019 takeover have been almost universally disappointing with some of them coming in at under 50% of rated capacity and performance! A heads up to anyone relying on this video for up-to-date information.
So what battery specifically from JCI performed at 50% of it's rating? That sounds scary AF. Also I don't mean to pry into your business but I'm curious as to what made you buy 10 JCI batteries in the last 3 years
@@roccit As a TH-camr who's experienced 1/165th of PF's success... I'd have to say most TH-camrs wouldn't sell out. Who they are and who they are to their audience is too important and took too much to achieve. Now in numbers 1/165th of the success...the friends and the meaning of my friends who watch far out-weigh this of course. Most TH-camrs with his success would have "sold out" from possibly your point of view, but not from mine. I have plenty of acquaintances in TH-camrs online who have had sponsors over the years while still chiefly running their "own content" and I've found them to stay upstanding despite doing what I suspect you are calling "selling out". True sell outs...they can't keep making videos. It destroys them. Many have spoken about it with the top "How-to TH-cam", experts in whom I appreciate like Tim Schmoyer and Roberto Blake. Want to learn how to make a successful business and include broad sources of income? You can't just rely on AdSense, but PF has a loyal following who also pays him on Patreon to follow their input and not big corporations, so at least he's not on AdSense alone.
This TH-cam channel is the consumer reports for free on anything that is tested. I cant buy anything pricy without checking to see if the reviews by project farm are available. Really nicely done.... Succinct, complete, unbiased etc. Just a superlative channel.
I have used WalMart Ever Start batteries for several years and have had great success with them and like this video showed they are the least expensive as well
I call them "Neverstarts". I work at walmart part time. I was giving the service manager a hard time about the terrible batteries...he said they don't use Johnson controls anymore and they are now better.
It's more likely your driving habits that dictate battery performance. True that Quality can sometimes be an issue but short journeys and low revs is the biggest reason for sulphation and failure.
@@JG_Fit the failures I've had has all been because of my delayed interior lights. I used to accidentally leave them turned on thinking it's just the delay. After you run any battery flat dead it does a lot of damage.
Thank you for educating your viewers as to the manufacturer of the battery. There are only a handful of manufacturers, but sold under numerous names. In my 35+ years in the HD Truck industry, East Penn (Deka) batteries were the best sold. Very very few issues. Also, if the vehicle has multiple batteries, all should be replaced. Vibration and heat is the death of batteries.
What I love about this channel and this gentlemans efforts is that it holds companies accountable for their marketing claims which are often highly embellished. Sharing the cost between the products and the companies that sell them is also highly valuable. Like most fiscally responsible people, I price shop both cost and quality before pulling the trigger on a purchase. Unless you're part of the 1%, saving $40 dollars for the same battery simply feels good and responsible. :) Another thank you sir for your efforts in providing this valuable information. P.S., you may consider a body guard before a big corporation puts a hit on you! HA! LOL
Your level of testing, your conception of ideas to test and lack of sponshorships makes you the most reliable source of information on this side of youtube and you deserve every level of success. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for this. I've bought Walmart batteries for years because I was poor and could not afford to spend more. Never had a problem, but its nice to see independent verification.
@@mattfoley4128 I would imagine that Walmart can get a good deal from a good company as they sell so many? One of the few advantages of being one of the Countries biggest retailers?
@veryslyfox Perhaps his testing could gave been more thorough, but honestly his is the first real world battery review I've seen by anyone. Personally I'd say he took a more thorough approach than most people would ever do, And I find it interesting that the cheaper batteries did at least as well as ones that were $40 more, if not better. I've used Everstart batteries exclusively for 10yrs, never had a problem. And since I as well as my technician friends, with a combined 100yrs of experience have found most batteries made in the last 20yrs rarely last more than 3yrs, spending $40 for a battery with the same or less performance is just stupid.
I only do PF reviews before purchasing any products. It's the only place where you receive a honest opinion. Someday I hope we can see a PF rating on product. Keep going
@@billspencerjr8636 well there's no affiliate links and I doubt a company would sponsor a video their product comes in last and sponsorship has to be disclosed. If he makes anything outside of TH-cam, patrons and merch I can't imagine how.
Would love to see this test performed again since there are many more battery options and battery pricing has increased significantly. Thank you PF for your incredibly detailed reviews. The work you put into your videos is on another level.
Dakota Lithium should be in the running. In fact, you should test a host of marine materials. Like, Lithium vs AGM vs Lead-Acid, fishing line, and trolling motors.
worked for Johnson Controls years ago. Although I didnt work for the battery division, I did ocassionally work at one of their battery mfg locations. It was funny watching all of those different batteries head down the line and get a different sticker! I asked an engineer there if there really was a difference and he said only the sears Die Hard Gold had a slightly stronger acid installed. Other than that they were all the same. That was some time ago though.
@@lesstech74 yes years ago I had several Die Hard batteries in different vehicles and the only Die Hard battery that was any good was the Die Hard Gold.
@@lesstech74 and Bennyhanna1976, which plants, my father worked for JCI for 30 years even before the Canby Oregon plant was JCI it was Globe Union. My father was head of maintenance at the Canby plant when he passed away in 2012. Eric Bergquist. In the early days, he told me to never use an Optima as their failure rate was horrid, something like a 20% failure rate in the 1st year and nearly 40% after 3 years. I hear they are much better now. I run Interstate in my cars and probably will for the rest of my life. JCI is probably the only supplier of batteries I will ever run.
@@lesstech74 knew a guy who worked at a reman place (starters & alternators) he said the same thing ,different stickers the HD alternators got a gold colored pulley
I bought a Walmart budget battery for 49.95. It's still goin strong here in the craptastic weather of New Jersey. It's now 6 yr old goin on 7. Best 50 bux I've spent in a while . The battery is blue on the label. Great videos bud as always. Stay safe and have a great holiday
@@big800wildcat I'm not positive but I do think wm remans those budget batteries. I did have excellent luck with mine but friends had some bad results. But I do believe also that if whatever the battery was put in needs to be running pretty tip top shape as to not crank too much just to start daily .most batteries don't like to be worked real hard like being drained very much especially cheap batteries. Most of my experience over 35 yrs has brought me to this evaluation of this . And if you drain a battery dead then for instance charge it at say 10 amp for only long enough to start your car than that will damage the battery. If you drain the battery, charge it at 2 amp for 8 to 10 hours .that should replace the ampacity so it will hold a solid charge . I've had very good luck charging low and slow rather than boiling the battery at 10 or more amps .
Not only do you have the normal work every content creator has with editing and filming but you actually put way more work into the content.... In the sense that... You actually put in a ton of real work. Not to mention everything is geared to help all of us out and not just mindless entertainment. You and Chrisfix have the best content and work ethic out there. Props to project farmer!
It's funny because I bought a cheap Walmart deep cycle battery for my boat as a starting battery and trolling motor battery. That battery was charged and drained (from trolling) over and over again for years. I was amazed at how well it worked and just thought it was a fluke since it was such a cheap battery.... Good to find out the Walmart batteries really are better. Goes to show you that more expensive isn't always better.
I did exactly the same thing. I had 2 27 series hooked parallel for my 12V Trolling motor and a single 12V for starting and they lasted for years and years. All the batteries are made by three different companies and I think Johnson makes most of them.
Walmart stuff is actually quite often good quality. Any walmart brand frozen food is usually great tasting, and walmart car audio amps are actually good too
true but keeping a lead acid battery charged correctly and electrolytes level good and avoid deep discharging and very high amp draw are the most important things for battery life as well as total discharge cycles..
I can't help but say to myself after every one of your videos "this man is full of integrity". Your content is the most useful and unbiased that I find on TH-cam. How do the batteries compare in corrosion?
personal experience my optima red top i bought in 09 is still going strong in 2023 I also have a optima yellow top that sees to drain dead every few months (parasitic loads in my truck) and its still goin purchased in 2016
As someone who used Optima for many years with great success, there was quite a noticeable drop in quality after Johnson Controls bought them out, at which time the warranty was also reduced in the number of years it was valid. 20+ years ago I had a yellow top that had an entire cell crushed in an accident when it was already a few years old, and that battery continued to work well for another three years in another vehicle after the cell was crushed. That would never happen with an Optima now. Odyssey batteries are the way to go if you want a top-of-the-line battery these days.
@@scottdhorn our hybrids Panasonic battery is still holding on after 14 years. The agm's really do outshine when you deep drain them. Recently a shipping company left the lights on for two weeks and the battery appeared dead. Took 2 whole days of trickle charging to get it up n going again. I did some research and apparently the only acceptable replacement for the Panasonic 12v AGM is the optima yellowtop. Unfortunately they're both crazy pricey but they're the same price for either or, so.. Hybrids are cool but holy smokes are some repairs expensive
I think you and your reviews are great! Best I have seen on TH-cam and you should be commended on being sponsor free. I trust you and your reviews more than any of the others with many, many THANKS!
Walmart really gotten better on last couple year on all fronts. I needed a UCB stick in hurry once at they nearly as much basics and same price as Amazon/bestbuy. They've even starting selling premium racing bicycles on-line (I think it's a pet project of one grandsons or something like that) that are good as premium offerings from Trek or Specialized and half the price (if you google Viathon)
@@runningwithshemp I just replaced the Walmart battery in Hyundai elantra in south florida after 7yrs not dead but wearing out.... did all sorts of research before and was looking at something else before looking at the battery that was there already... which I did buy to replace the factory one that died after 3yrs. I've been getting costco batteries for my pathfinder, town car, lesabre and others.... last ones I've needed I bought at Costco for town car and dies less than a year - got "free" replacement - had to pay for the now more expensive difference.... died in just over a year got another one free w/ complaint died in less than a year..... they were grumpy about it each time and basically told me to eff off. before that in the 25 I think years I've bought batteries at Costco I had ONE die in the warranty - which used to be decent - period. to be UNFAIR - my local Costcos management SUCKS! Their idea of "if you are ever unsatisfied" means they expect 30-90days maximum to decide if you are satisfied - told that specifically by managers and I did not abuse the returns... I only return or complain if something is really, really bad.
Honestly, this has been the most useful video you have ever done, IMO. Walmart is best for motor oils and now batteries too. Who would have believed that?
@TheCheesePlease Lol no. Take a look at the video this gentleman did on oils. I'm not saying I'd use Walmart oil, but it definitely isn't the worst stuff out there.
Very good again! Lately I've been having good luck with AAA batteries, the convenience of them coming out to help you at a bad time, test your system is priceless
@@ProjectFarm yep, do the deep cycle battery comparison. also if possible do a comparison video between solar panels. it might be expensive but pretty please do it
Thanks for your good work. And commitment to excellence. Back in the 70s I lived by Lake in the Woods. ( minnesota ) The fashionable way of thinking, there, was to used a deep cycle marine battery for your car. I don't know if the batteries are still made the same way now. But at that time the deep cycle batteries used solid plates, and that is why thy could be deep cycled. The automotive batteries had a non conductive foam core, with a plating of metal. And that is why thy do not like to be deep cycled. Oh,,, and at that time, the deep cycle marine batteries, were about 30 % cheaper. Thanks for sharing your videos.
oreilly deep cycle batteries are awesome for the money i took the 6 6 volt batteries out of my golfcart and put 3 12 volt oreilly deep cycles in 3 years ago still going strong mind you a golf cart load is extremely hard on those batteries they are not designed for that kind of application but at the time 300 dollars was far cheaper then 800 and hell glad i did it. mind you the cart will last all weekend of constant use it dont last as long as it did with the correct batteries but hey it gets us all weekend long and you can charge it overnight so i cant complain on the whole switch all though i did have to buy 3 cheap batterie tenders but still cheaper then 800 in batteries.
I've had good luck with the napa batteries. Last one I got was during a promo and I received a $20 visa card back. It was pretty close to Walmart price at that point. I didn't have to go to Walmart which is worth the $5 extra 😂.
@@sincerelyrob4240 Haven't been to walmart for 689 days. Nothing in that store I need. I get what ever I need from our 2 little towns in central ND USA. Yes just bought a couple of group 31 batteries from NAPA last week I may have paid a couple of bucks more but they 20 miles from home.
I Love your videos and the way you test everything so well and the way your so honest about what you do its hard too find honest people like you I really do appreciate that about you your the best.
Been running Everstarts for a while, even in Montana where we see -30 at least once per winter....never had any issues. Nice to see the results back it up.
I live in Ontario and work on cars as a hobby, 61 years was 11 when I started, here batteries need a lot of care. Started spending winters in AZ. a few years ago. I still play with cars and almost every one I deal with, buy or repair needs a battery, I think the heat is much harder on them than the cold.
Very well thought out testing procedures, explanations and final graphical break down. I spent some of my years working in a materials testing lab. Our focus was ASTM standards for testing of materials. Materials for construction which included everything...EVERY MATERIAL down to its component level, even to the chemistry from which it was composed. ASTM testing protocols are a crazy maze of interdependant prerequisites. Many times mind boggling. So, I think you did a very fair, if not excellent job of simulating an ASTM test protocol. 😊👍👍👍👍👍 KUDOS bro 😊
A few years back there were only 4 battery manufacturers in either the world, or the United States, which seemed odd because there were probably hundreds of brands. Also many brands used multiple manufacturers depending on line and type (agm, group number, gold/red/blue, platinum etc.) I always try and buy batteries who at least list the manufacturer, and have had terrific luck with Johnson controls, that being said I think the quality has dropped in the last 10 years. Most of the differences between the duralast and super start can be explained by production variance. Lead acid batteries are very low tech, and minor differences in things like plate thickness can make a big difference in performance. Lastly, the small battery tester used is not a good method to test batteries. They have come to prominence throughout the industry because they are quick and easy, cheap, and don't require much knowledge to use. I have seen them call good batteries bad and bad ones good, fairly often, while I have never seen a proper carbon pile load tester give an inaccurate reading when used correctly. The best method to test batteries is load tester that can put a load of at least half of the cranking amps rated. A full load test will ensure that the batteries voltage path is capable of transferring the full current of a load through the battery, and instead of basing the results off of calculations, produce a verified function under load. Much like a damaged wire that will ohm out as having good conductivity with an ohmmeter, a battery can have low internal resistance with no or low loads, but fail when a high load is applied.
The quality of basically everything has shat the bed the last decade or so. Really sucks. My beloved Remington got bought out 8 or so years ago and now they're a damn joke. Sickening. And I agree on battery testers. AutoZone"tested" our Panasonic 12v AGM battery from our hybrid after a shipping company deep drained it for over 2 weeks. Thing was declared deader than dead. Trickle charged it for 2 days and now it's working the same as it was before the fools 'killed' it
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I bought 2 ever start group 27 batteries for my Cummins diesel after this video. Here I am over 5 years later and those 2 batteries have just become bad. Refered back to the video and am off to buy two more at Wal Mart! Thanks Project Farm!!!
@Project Farm - Here I am 3 Years Later. This video is in my recommended feed. I actually suggested the idea of this video years ago. It's actually great to see this again as a refresher. Still watch your Videos Todd. Thanks again for everything you do. You are awesome!!
Really appreciate the summary. I'm sold on batteries from Walmart based on performance, value and warranty with two, so far. As stated early on in the video, battery prices have gone nuts; so easy to overpay unnecessarily.
agreed used both die hard and ever start, for the money the ever start is the best value of cost and performance. I tested my ever start batter that I have used every day for 5 years and it still came out as good.
Thanks to everyone who requested this one. I've had a lot of questions regarding which battery tested I used. It's a Foxwell BT-705, which I purchased. Here's the link. Thanks again, Todd amzn.to/34lBPVF
Have you thought of testing flexible solar panels.
Hi, would you test the ability of car battery to withstand short trips and deep discharging? If you can also add Varta and Bosch to the test.
Thanks
Bought a everstart Walmart batt 1.5 yrs ago because the last one lasted an incredible 7.5 yrs! However, after recieving 3 duds in a row, being disabled, i went to Autozone & got a good one this time.
How about a review of the effectiveness of car battery chargers that have a "repair mode" to help repair abused damaged batteries?
Dave Menche this would be great!
'I say no to every single sponsorship opportunity "
Respect for this Man
Major respect for sure 👍
Part of me wants him to get paid though
@@ChigbunduO You can donate to his Patreon, I did, I dont want those videos to stop !
yeah and he dropped $1000 on car batteries.....
Manufacturers must hate Project Farm, can't be bought!
This guy is a rock star for not selling out and staying true to finding the truth! Love your channel!
Thanks!
And also for all of the groupies and drugs that he has.
This channel is something else. None like it in TH-cam. 99% of TH-cam is out here pushing ads for sponsorships they don't even believe in. Keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
well if he did then the channel would be worthless and he knows it. it would be self sabotage.
One of your best videos. I replaced my wife's battery with an Everstart recently and it was just reassuring to know that my man PF, gave it the thumbs up.
Thanks!
I just bought the same battery for my wife’s car. Also, I’ve had an Everestart in my tractor for 8+(possibly 10, just can’t remember what year I bought it) years and it still fires up every time.
@@Outlaw653sometimes you'll find a date sticker and someplace will scribe the date in the plastic
In my humble opinion this is one of the best channels on youtube
Thank you!
Agree 100% - when I can’t sleep at night I’m watching Project Farm - lol lol !!! I’ve also had requests to see the videos in my shop’s engine rebuild room
@@ProjectFarm thank you Project Farm!!!
i agree. watch electroboom and choose. these guys are so much better than our politicians.
@@ProjectFarm Man you know what's really silly? Manufactures have known since at least 2015 how to extend the life cycle of lead acid batteries by 150% to 250% with just a tiny bit .5% to 1% of cheap graphene yet they haven't done it yet.
I believe some manufacturers in Australia did sell batteries with this modification and charged like double lol.
Talk about a scam. It should be a crime against humanity that these big manufacturers control the market like this.
Proof: pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/ra/c5ra11114e
For even better more recent studies with 250% better etc just google lead acid battery and graphene.
Great content as always!
This video is sponsored by the the people, for the people.
The main contributor is project farm.
Thank you P.F.
You are welcome!
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Agreed, I've been a automotive technician for over 30 years and this guy is in one of the best on TH-cam. He breaks it down correctly for everyone. Much respect.
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm I know this is a couple years old,and a VERY good VID. I REALLY liked your recent review of the LTT Screwdriver! I knew you just couldn't wait to get your hands on it! I'm a loyal fan of BOTH your channels !!!
I'll be digging through your archive for any EXIDE comparisons,hoping to find some. After i hate Interstate,I'm brand loyal to Exide.😎 Keep up the good work my man,as a retired EE,you do GREAT!!
He's not one of the best. He is the best the only best .. better then anyone.. in my opinion
Here in Australia I have just come across this channel. It is excellent!! The constantly innovative ways to test product never ceases to amaze me. Great public service done well.
Cheers.
Thanks so much!
You are a one man consumer report my friend, huge props to you!!
Thanks so much!
Right!?! Stumbled upon one of his videos a month ago. Best choice I made that month!
Thank you for having integrity and character to turn down sponsorship, very accurate and real scenarios are answered in your videos. They also help consumers greatly if we feel confused. thanks again homie
Thank you for the feedback
Much Respect to you! Thanks for not letting yourself be bought !
"I say no to every single sponsor opportunity." That's why I trust his reviews, every other TH-cam channel is saturated with hidden sponsors, and biased/uneducated reviews. We appreciate you!
Totally agree. Just wish this test came out a month ago..... bought 2 batteries for a diesel.....
check out Ave also ijs he's good too :)
Project farm and Scotty Kilmer are 2 of few mechanic channels that don't accept sponsorships.
Thats why this is one of the best channels on youtube.
@@Stig007 I ain't so sure about Scotty he certainly gets sent a lot of free stuff also before his youtube days he was a "as seen on TV" type salesman.
Man, I remember when a premium 3 year replacement battery was about $50-60 depending on the size. It's insane that now most premium batteries are wayyy over $100 and a good portion of them from AutoZone/Advance Auto Parts are over $200. That's not including the AGM batteries. They are $300 or more now...
Auto zone batteries and the rest are Hype. Even Interstate you Gotta watch who your buying it from. With the current administration taking a hatchet to the USA, I found great reliability for the Walmart Ever start battery and just replace it with a free one every 6-8 months because that's about how long they last. If they burn a cell, they replace free for 1 yr of purchase .Cars are junk too these newer ones. CVT transmission's, etc... Just buy a 2016 Toyota and stay away from kia and their inferior metal they use on their crankshaft. If you see green on the posts, you can sand them down and seal them with metal bond or Jb weld at the post seal where the connect and the gasses don't release and the batteries will last forever.
If you notice, the everstart has a 5yr warranty. The current pics on Walmart show them with a 3yr warranty! Granted those are pics, not the actual product. But I'm assuming they're up to date since the warranty period dropped... Just like everything else rising/decreasing to the benefit of companies.
@@meme5887The 3 year warranty is the free replacement period. No battery, with the exception of the platinum AGM batteries, has a free replacement period longer than 3 years. Depending on what quality level EverStart battery you are buying that 5 year warranty was for anywhere from 4 to 2 years of pro-rated warranty. Not a free replacement period.
Bidenomics
stay away from auto zone batteries.
Need more guys like this in all fields of products we buy. Because alot of ppl get fooled by slick marketing and stunts. Do your research and save your hard earned money
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm no, thank you!
Reading this kind of comments, and remembering that there exist individuals like PF, that simply will never be bought, because a great purpose is more important than money, is really touching actually.
Of course we are lucky that there are individuals that do great (or at least good) financially already, because otherwise it's quite easy for corporations/companies to, literally, buy people...
So I wish to PF and all his family, and to ourselves, stay healthy.
Fool me once shame on you ...
Few learn from their mistakes.
There are some outstanding reviewers on TH-cam. But, in my opinion, you have the most well thought out and informative product reviews. The detail and effort that you put into these videos is second to none. Thank you sir!
Appreciate that! Thanks!
He's my favorite. The manager of Advanced Auto in my town is now a viewer after today. They sell the Die Hards.
Sorry PF, the real battery testing is a real world atmosphere. Interstate batteries are very good in real world conditions. Walmart batteries are not worth it. Napa gold went bad for me in 2 years. You need to remember that dust on the batteries will drain it. Keep your batteries clean. I actually put 1” styrofoam underneath my 4 AGM batteries in my Peterbilt and now up to 4 years on them. Plus they power my refrigerator. Vibration can be a killer on batteries and the heat is harder on them than the cold for longevity. I run Duracell on my wheel horse rider and my Allis Chalmers CA tractor with very good results so far.
"I say no to every single sponsorship opportunity" - You are amazing my friend. Please keep doing what you're doing. I wish there were more people like you in the world.
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarmyour the last Mohican !
I shelled out extra to get an AGM battery 5 years ago, and it's still going strong. It's never not started.
Lead acid ones have always gone dead every 2 or 3 years for me, so I'm convinced it's worth it.
Thanks for the feedback.
In my youtube experiences, this is the most useful channel I've ever come across. Outstanding good sir
Thank you very much!
That and South Main Auto - Eric O one of the best Auto technicians.
mine too sooo many good tests...
Same also doesn’t it seem really weird that Johnson Controls owns everything
Amen brother I will second that for sure
In the old days kids we had to be lucky enough to A: live in vicinity of a guy this smart and B: be lucky enough to cross paths with them to be able to gain the knowledge from him.
Thanks for your service to mankind.
Very kind words!
Lol where did u live a dessert island!? This is all common info if u graduated high school !
@@kevinerhartjr.273 Seriously? Even if you know all of the listed ratings on all commercially available batteries, which you don't, there's almost a guarantee that the listed ratings on most batteries aren't correct in any given situation. Also, I went to high school and I know a lot of people that went to high school. I've never heard of an automotive battery class in high school, not even in shop class so I know you didn't learn any of this in school.
@@twistedpixel2558 i dont know what cave u and ur classmates went to but i learned about batteries ,electricity , and magnets is 6th grade!
@@kevinerhartjr.273 Ya, we all did. The concept of electricity. This guy is testing specific batteries and the claims that their manufacturers make about the specifications of them. That's what the op was talking about. You're kinda slow, huh?
Imagine ProjectFarm asking you:
"You want something from the fridge? We have over 12 kinds motor oil, diesel fuel with additives, Jump start kits, car batteries"
Vibycko ...Hahaha 👍
Yum I love drinking diesel fuel
Any ice cream in there? I'm hungry.
I dont know why I'm picturing Jigsaw, from the Saw movie franchise! Lol
That’s awesome.
Thanks! As an engineer and drag racer I really appreciate the effort and testing regimes that are truly scientific and not just opinions like most other videos I see. Objectivity is key. Thank You for all you do. A Suggested test would be DC to AC Converters in the 2000 to 3000 watt range which most would put in their car trailers or RV's and are in the $150 to $400 range in price. Thanks ! Tom
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
400.00 will get you a quality 1,000 watt inverter . A quality 3,000 watt inverter is going to be in the 1500.00 range . Victron is the name worth the money .
@onthelake9554 Thank You !
@@mc71454 Your welcome !
@@ProjectFarm I drive 1,000 kilometers a year and bought a new Everstart battery. The whole time some CAA thing for mileage is connected to the OBD2 port to save a thousand dollars a year on insurance and I drive an average of one third of a mile per trip, I bought the battery exactly 2 years ago and now I finally had to put it on a charger. The Motomaster Eliminator charger reads 30 percent when I first connected it at 60 degrees Fahrenheit. Honda CRV so the Everstart works well doing very short trips and I have a connected car alarm the entire 2 years. Paid $136.97 plus tax in Ontario, Canada at the time 2 years ago. I installed it myself and hoisted the battery using only one hand.
The integrity of this man is inspirational.
Too bad Tegrity Farms is taken
@@PHamster 😂
Amen to that.
Yeah!!! he comes up with great controls on testing!!!
A saint!
I was stranded out of town during a family emergency when I bought an Everstart at Walmart, expecting it to last until I could get a better battery. 6 years later it is still going strong.
Time to load test your battery,( this is cheap & will tell you if its time to replace it).. I used to be in the repair business & it's a false savings after a battery with low voltage shortens or even destroys your alternator or starter . It's much the same as putting an electric lawn mower at the end of a long skinny underrated extension cord .The motor struggles under low voltage & gets too hot..Ditto with the car starter, & the alternator will charge all the time trying to bring the voltage up to where sensitive computer controls can function properly.
My Everstart lasted 7yrs, It wasn't completely dead but I could tell it was getting weak. Obviously bought another one. The cheapest too no brainer.
Stranded? Oh wait... Automatic...
Impressive!
Walmart's batteries are made by Johnson Controls. They're good. Exide and JC are the biggest manufacturers and they pretty much make up the entire market for lead-acid.
I bought my Everstart 3 weeks ago before this video. I’m glad that I made a wise decision
Ive had mixed reviews with neverstart batteries
Used only EverStart for the past 20+ years, only 1 issue ever, and they replaced it for me no questions asked. Other than that, never another issue.
Thank you for the feedback
Been running ever starts in Canada for over 3 years, haven't had a problem even in sub -30 celsius temperatures on diesels and v8s
My first EverStart Maxx lasted 8 years in NorCal. The second is still going strong at 5 years in Kansas.
The ONLY guy who really compare batteries in a scientific way!!!
No BS, just the real deal!
Everyone else: "I like xyz, I feel like this is a good battery" 🤦
Thanks!
Would love to see a test on what works best for reviving a dead battery. Battery desulfating?
my dads battery shit the bed and i told him what he needed and he said "what, you've been working in an autobody shop for 2 weeks and now you know everything?" and i responded with "no my best friend project farm has taught me a lot"
thank you personally for making me seem smart i love you with all my heart
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great guy who's looking out for the interest of his viewers, Not big business! I applaud this guy for all of his hard work. These tests are expensive and very time consuming. Keep these great videos coming. THANK YOU!
Thank you!
Yes it can be costly thumbs up thanks for the information. Batteries are very costly . Will POWs or something along that line his vids pop up that you want to jump in th o the rabbit hole it gets deep. An confusing
I'm a retired EE with 45 years professional experience. Excellent analysis and I especially appreciate the graphs. Since battery sources are fluid, it may be time to refresh this topic.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm Yes and batteries have gotten even more expensive, closer to the $300 dollar price point now..... crazy
Just had to get one today, and yeah...$300. No way I was paying that, nor was I paying the over $200 for some. I live in Texas, and no matter the battery, it seems they all last 3 years due to the heat. So- went with the usual EverStart Maxx at $120
@@davidhurwich8941 buy a lifepo4, it's a bit pricey but will easily last 10 years
@@MalluMgtow I'll take that bet lol
You're a treasure. Your voice has a nice delivery, your production is simple and consistent, not at all sloppy. Your tests and math are straightforward and easy to take in. For products testing on TH-cam you are top self.👍
Thanks so much!
I wish this guy reviewed everything in life
Todd is definitely by far the best and plus he even takes time to reply to comments. 😊
I personally want to say thank you for everything your doing and not selling out like everybody else. You keep it real and actually have very scientific ways of hard testing items that us hard working americans use on a daily basis but dont necessarily have the means to get the name brand on everything. So I'm sure I say this for everybody when I say thank you for being true and genuine.
Thanks so much!
Sum channels that are small need the sponsorship to help complete their projects.
I guess you just got through investigating one of those Scotty Kilmer videos, lol
@@yell0wberry maybe lol
These tests must have took so much of ur time and hardwork... thank you so much for putting ur efforts for us... huge respect...
Thanks so much!
Thanks for doing this video! I've always been happy with Everstart batteries in all our vehicles. Yours is by far the best independent testing channel on TH-cam! Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks, will do!
This morning the wífe called me just after she left for work, told me she thinks her car battery seems like it's getting weak. So the first thing I thought of was watching this video months and months ago. Came right back to view it probably for the 3rs time now. Man thank you so much for the content you put out. It is truly priceless in so many ways.
You are welcome!
which battery did you buy and why ?
@@virtuosowins I did go with the Walmart Everstart for the first time. I usually would try to source an Interstate but I did the Walmart this time for 2 reasons. 1. For the price and results of this videos test and the fact that everyone has a Walmart in there back yard. 2. Because the batteries I feel get sold often at Walmart I think they get a continuous fresh supply. Batteries that sit and don't sell will age and you won't get the full life span of cells inside.
@@Washman-jw3hl Sound rationale and decision making, way to go - Happy for you. As for me, I have no one do these tests in India for the car batteries we have here but in general we drive less per day so I think my own battery will last for a while.
You can revive the old battery with Epsom salt. Many Y. tube videos on the subject.
I've watched this show over the years. . . As time goes on, this "show" continues making great videos by investing in better equipment/gear. Great job Project Farm!
Matt Brophy it is one of my favorite channels. I love how he goes through and reads the comments too.
I’m always impressed with the content Project Farm produces and his integrity; consistent, rigorous, useful tests on products we all use. Its a gift to us all’
We need more honest and neutral videos like this one, straight product reviews as is.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for making this video! I recently got a Toyota brand battery for my Civic (Johnson Controls also makes Toyota brand batteries). It cost the same as the top-line EverStart Platinum battery at Walmart and offered a superior warranty, 3 years free replacement, 4 additional years prorated.
At one time, a lot of Toyotas came with AC Delco maintenance-free batteries, which tended to last many years.
I can't even begin to describe how much your videos and your channel means to me. Please keep doing what you're doing! I love watching your videos for referencing something specific and also just playing them back to back as I fall asleep at night. Such good information and seriously good integrity.
Thank you so much!!
My Everstart Max lasted 7 years and 4 months in my 2005 Silverado. I was shocked. Excellent battery.
did you ever kill the battery?
I had an everstart last 3 days on me and the replacement lasted about a month. It actually saddens me to find out half the batteries on here are all made in the same factory. I had a die hard gold last 15 years never went dead for those 10 years until one cold winter.
My energizer lasted for 10yrs. 07/07 till 12/17 Toyota matrix. Best battery I have ever had.
just FYI you can make them last well beyond that by doing desulfation process. look it up. desulfate every 2 years too for maintenance. "sweet project cars battery rejuvenation method" you cant condition/desulfate AGMs tho so they're inferior to me.
Best battery I ever had was a VW (Autobhan) battery in my 03 Golf, the battery, lasted 9 years. Coldest start in that 9 years was -42F (Canada) Never had a battery since that lasted as long. most i get now is 4 to 5 years.
Sometime in the future, I want a hardware store with a Project Farm rating on each product.
Absolutely!
"As seen on Project Farm."
Maybe I can work something up for you. What products do you want tested
Remember the "Good housekeeping" badge?
Rated and approved by : PF
You just saved me a lot of money-I love your channel and love how thorough you are with testing-and explaining the reasons for a specific test.
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Easily the best TH-cam channel out there. Thoroughly and clearly explains every segment of testing and shows no bias. Love your videos !
Every episode of Project Farm I draw some of the most useful statistics, advice and knowledge. I absolutely love this channel, thank you!
Thank you
i agree kyle 100%
One of the best channels on TH-cam. Breaks my heart that this channel isn’t even to 1 million subscribers yet!
be sure to tell your fiends!
Gordon Swanson Do you mind if I tell all my friends? I don't know that many fiends. :-D
@@bentnickel7487 then tell other people on TH-cam when you see their comments on videos which would also enjoy this content. I do it all the time, including 5 seconds ago in my last comment. This time it wasn't for PF, but there are other greats of course.
PF may not have 1mm subscribers but have you looked at how many people are viewing the videos? 320K views in 1 day isn't bad. I think a lot of people see the videos even if not subscribed. It is an excellent channel and I understand where you are coming from.
It's a lil too intelligent for the tik tok masses hehe.
3 years later and they are even more...
Just wanted to Thank You, I watched the video and found Walmart had the battery for 80 bucks total.
Love your channel
I can’t imagine the amount of time it took to just film this video let along edit 🤯 #respect
This is honestly one of the easier ones to. Some videos he does must take a week
But then again that’s his job. Some people spend 35hrs a week working on some bullshit to make other people rich. So what is spending 35hrs for all this? If he makes almost 1mil views = 1k euro lets say. So for a full week worth of work. That’s worth the effort. And especially as he’s his own boss. So i mean...yes takes tome but that’s his job haha
You got that right hes the best hands down!
Used to work at Johnson Controls and tho the outside form is the same, internally there are important differences.
Typically the less expensive batteries have thinner plates and not much room at the bottom to capture material that sloughs off the plates over time. If this plate material builds up enough it will cause a short between the plates and the battery is dead.
Also, the brand has control over the design of the plates. The least expensive may have lead pickups shaped like a comb, where the better batteries gather electrons with a fractal design and are more able to handle heavier loads as well as charge more quickly. Because of the identical case, sometimes a lower cost label gets put on a better battery. And vice versa.
Thanks for sharing.
Ya that makes sense man, I figured there had to be more than just different labels to justify the extra cost. Thanks
my experience that while inexpensive and somehow winning this "test", Everstart batteries are some of the worst. Very rarely make their three year warranty. I've literally had a customer who bought one on a Wednesday evening, and Thursday afternoon it was dead
Is the Everstart Deep Cycle and the Everstart Maxx Deep Cycle the same battery. It seems they might be now. Just the Maxx is $13 more with a 2 year warranty
My 2008 Subaru Outback likes to kill off it's battery around every 4 years. The stock battery lasted 4 years. Replaced with a Les Schwab made by Johnson Controls that lasted 46 months and died. The it was replaced with a Walmart Everstart Johnson Controls battery that lasted 45 months and flat out died. Now there's a Johnson Controls made Interstate in it and fingers are crossed. Will it make it past 48 months?
When did car battles get so expensive! Thank you, it’s not just me.
Thanks for watching.
Batteries and tires. I remember when I bought my Ranger in 2004 I got BF Goodrich's for $89 each now the same model tire is $134 from the same place.
Car batteries increased in price after the closure of most lead mines.
if you gonna battle using you car, is gonna be expensive!
All the different brand names are bullshit. There are only a handful of lead acid battery manufacturers left in North America and one manufacturer might make same battery for 4 or 5 different brands. Only thing different is sticker on it.
I've been a subscriber to this channel for a long time. My car needs a new battery and I knew exactly where I was going to check to see the best bang for the buck. Thanks for taking the time to do these 👍
You are welcome! Thanks for being a long time subscriber!
I always use the Walmart Battery. Main reason it that there is almost always a Walmart anywhere I travel in case of a warranty issue. Years ago I had a battery die that was under warranty but there wasn’t any dealer where I was so I ended up paying for another battery. Nice to see it was a top performer.
Thanks for the feedback.
Unfortunately, Wal-Mart has shown they cannot be trusted to be there when needed. They closed down their auto service centers during the COVID debacle even though auto repair is an essential service that was not subject to any restrictions (certainly not in my state, where there were very few restrictions by mandate). Every other repair facility I know of remained open, including chain and independent. Wal-Mart made themselves completely unavailable for weeks on end, by choice, when people needed them.
@@tid418 i think considering that auto service is not walmart's main function, it made sense to scale down unnecessary services during the height of the pandemic.
id like to see the Walmart ever start AGM battery go though this test
This dude does what everyone wants to know, but can't afford. In other words, you're doing God's work.
EDIT: capitalization because i'm a patriot and a christian.
Thank you!!
@mike brink I mean... Walmart is #1 fortune 500 company
@mike brink ...but I will say a lot of Walmart's items are not Walmart's items. Walmart just slaps their name on the product like great valley but it's really another company just using their name
@@ProjectFarm RV 6v golf cart style batteries are all over the map on value vs cost...and each manufacturer of course claims the best. Could you please test these types, including Lithium Ion, AGM etc...many are used in solar arrays. TOOOO much hype out there to have confidence in claims. Thanks, LOVE your videos...refer to you all the time.
YOU WOULD BE A TOTAL FOOL TO THINK THIS GUY'S DOING THIS OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HIS HEART.
I was taking my trash out yesterday and I thought to myself "I wonder what the strongest / best trash bag is?" Could that be a future video 🤔🤔
Thank you for the video idea!
Good idea!
cheaper than batteries. lol
Look for "Demolition Sacks" - but this whole channel is a rabbit-hole for "I have a nagging feel I've been screwed by the labels on x"
@@goldcd I guarantee my labels are non-misleading.
I enjoyed this comparison vid. I used to sell batteries for Walmart in the early 90's. At that time they were made by B&G Technologies. I received more in returns than I sold, and I told everyone this so they would avoid purchasing a battery from Walmart. Nice to see Walmart corrected the problem.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
After realizing how much this video cost I sat through all the advertisements. Great content, love your unbiased approach to everything.
Well, he might have bought some of these for his own personal use and might have returned some for a refund. That would be the smart way to go.
I got 2 very long scam advertisements, one trying to sell a book to revive any kind of dead battery and another for an overpriced bluetooth obd2 reader. Found your comment and wrote this on my phone before they were over
@@furd8883 It's a tax expense. It would also be pretty crappy to return batteries that have been put through a test like this.
@@MGXsport I don't think so. I don't think he abused these batteries at all. A new customer of these batteries would do just great. All the same, it wouldn't feel right, but I think the batteries would be fine. He never started engines with them. Now that would be harsh. Also, deep drains damage batteries. He never did that.
Did you know that there is a small break in for batteries before they fully perform? If he stressed them more they'd show up with even MORE cold cranking amps on their tests. At least that's how my preferred battery brands behave. I don't know who makes batteries for GM for example, but after pushing them on a car with more issues than just the bad battery they have had, I've seen them turn out with an extra 200 cold cranking AMPS after 2 weeks of use from a customer.
I sat through zero ads, thanks to my TH-cam premium subscription. SO worth it, and you can listen with the screen off, AND get Google music INCLUDED!
FYI, since Clarios bought out Johnson Controls (JCI) they have significantly cheapened the batteries. I used to prefer JCI batteries but the last 10 or so I have purchased since the 2019 takeover have been almost universally disappointing with some of them coming in at under 50% of rated capacity and performance! A heads up to anyone relying on this video for up-to-date information.
This should be pinned.
You are a God send 🙏🏽
So what battery specifically from JCI performed at 50% of it's rating? That sounds scary AF. Also I don't mean to pry into your business but I'm curious as to what made you buy 10 JCI batteries in the last 3 years
@projectfarm update video for 2022 maybe?
Hey @ProjectFarm, you might want to redo this test now!
The amount of the effort and details that go into these videos is simply amazing. Project farm should be industry standard for product reviews
Loren Fok Yup! If it was anyone else the channel would have been sold out to some media corp or something.
@@roccit As a TH-camr who's experienced 1/165th of PF's success... I'd have to say most TH-camrs wouldn't sell out. Who they are and who they are to their audience is too important and took too much to achieve. Now in numbers 1/165th of the success...the friends and the meaning of my friends who watch far out-weigh this of course. Most TH-camrs with his success would have "sold out" from possibly your point of view, but not from mine. I have plenty of acquaintances in TH-camrs online who have had sponsors over the years while still chiefly running their "own content" and I've found them to stay upstanding despite doing what I suspect you are calling "selling out". True sell outs...they can't keep making videos. It destroys them. Many have spoken about it with the top "How-to TH-cam", experts in whom I appreciate like Tim Schmoyer and Roberto Blake. Want to learn how to make a successful business and include broad sources of income? You can't just rely on AdSense, but PF has a loyal following who also pays him on Patreon to follow their input and not big corporations, so at least he's not on AdSense alone.
Yep. He puts Consumer Reports to shame.
he is better than UL
This TH-cam channel is the consumer reports for free on anything that is tested. I cant buy anything pricy without checking to see if the reviews by project farm are available. Really nicely done.... Succinct, complete, unbiased etc. Just a superlative channel.
I have used WalMart Ever Start batteries for several years and have had great success with them and like this video showed they are the least expensive as well
I only pay $50
I get Walmart value power batteries at $49.95
I call them "Neverstarts". I work at walmart part time. I was giving the service manager a hard time about the terrible batteries...he said they don't use Johnson controls anymore and they are now better.
It's more likely your driving habits that dictate battery performance. True that Quality can sometimes be an issue but short journeys and low revs is the biggest reason for sulphation and failure.
@@JG_Fit the failures I've had has all been because of my delayed interior lights. I used to accidentally leave them turned on thinking it's just the delay. After you run any battery flat dead it does a lot of damage.
Thank you for educating your viewers as to the manufacturer of the battery. There are only a handful of manufacturers, but sold under numerous names.
In my 35+ years in the HD Truck industry, East Penn (Deka) batteries were the best sold. Very very few issues.
Also, if the vehicle has multiple batteries, all should be replaced.
Vibration and heat is the death of batteries.
Thank you for the feedback and great point on vibration shortening the life of flooded lead acid batteries!
Remember the myth of leaving batteries on the (ground/concrete) killed them lol
@@mikecheeze4312 born in '99 guess I'm to young to remember that 🤷♂️
Mike Cheeze it’s bullshit
This man is a hero without a cape me and my dad love watching these and this video was very useful as we needed new batteries
Thank you for the positive feedback
Your channel is in my top 3 of all 100s of TH-cam videos I watch! Your consumer product testing is priceless!! Thank you!
Thanks and you are welcome!
What I love about this channel and this gentlemans efforts is that it holds companies accountable for their marketing claims which are often highly embellished. Sharing the cost between the products and the companies that sell them is also highly valuable. Like most fiscally responsible people, I price shop both cost and quality before pulling the trigger on a purchase. Unless you're part of the 1%, saving $40 dollars for the same battery simply feels good and responsible. :) Another thank you sir for your efforts in providing this valuable information. P.S., you may consider a body guard before a big corporation puts a hit on you! HA! LOL
Thanks!
Your level of testing, your conception of ideas to test and lack of sponshorships makes you the most reliable source of information on this side of youtube and you deserve every level of success. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do.
Thank you for this. I've bought Walmart batteries for years because I was poor and could not afford to spend more. Never had a problem, but its nice to see independent verification.
Same here, good to know we were getting a good product after all.
I get the Walmart ones too. Always worked as good as the other "better" batteries I have ever purchased
@@mattfoley4128 I would imagine that Walmart can get a good deal from a good company as they sell so many?
One of the few advantages of being one of the Countries biggest retailers?
I recently went with Walmart batteries instead of motorcraft because I never had any issues with Walmart batteries.
@veryslyfox Perhaps his testing could gave been more thorough, but honestly his is the first real world battery review I've seen by anyone. Personally I'd say he took a more thorough approach than most people would ever do, And I find it interesting that the cheaper batteries did at least as well as ones that were $40 more, if not better. I've used Everstart batteries exclusively for 10yrs, never had a problem. And since I as well as my technician friends, with a combined 100yrs of experience have found most batteries made in the last 20yrs rarely last more than 3yrs, spending $40 for a battery with the same or less performance is just stupid.
I only do PF reviews before purchasing any products. It's the only place where you receive a honest opinion. Someday I hope we can see a PF rating on product. Keep going
Thanks, will do!
Real world results this is all that matters. I love this channel.
Thanks!
This guy is a class act! Here’s to a speedy pace of getting to 1 million subscribers soon! Well deserved.
Www
I love this channel. Whenever I get ready to make a purchase of something that matters I looks at this channel for a comparison.
Thank you!!
That's exactly what they want you to do he gets paid for selling a product lol
@@billspencerjr8636 well there's no affiliate links and I doubt a company would sponsor a video their product comes in last and sponsorship has to be disclosed. If he makes anything outside of TH-cam, patrons and merch I can't imagine how.
Just replaced a second Everstart Batt from Walmart. Both lasted barely two years. CCA is one metric but longevity is also important.
Thanks for the feedback.
Testing them and they are 50-65 lower on listed cca on the battery
Junk now
Would love to see this test performed again since there are many more battery options and battery pricing has increased significantly. Thank you PF for your incredibly detailed reviews. The work you put into your videos is on another level.
You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
@@ProjectFarm yes another video please including lightweight batteries
Dakota Lithium should be in the running. In fact, you should test a host of marine materials. Like, Lithium vs AGM vs Lead-Acid, fishing line, and trolling motors.
@@christophershoe9642 when i saw the optima, my first thought was 'marine use'. i shop cabela's and bass pro shops.😎
My step dad retired from Johnson Controls. He'll be happy to see these results. Another great video 😁
worked for Johnson Controls years ago. Although I didnt work for the battery division, I did ocassionally work at one of their battery mfg locations. It was funny watching all of those different batteries head down the line and get a different sticker! I asked an engineer there if there really was a difference and he said only the sears Die Hard Gold had a slightly stronger acid installed. Other than that they were all the same. That was some time ago though.
Thank you!
@@lesstech74 yes years ago I had several Die Hard batteries in different vehicles and the only Die Hard battery that was any good was the Die Hard Gold.
@@lesstech74 and Bennyhanna1976, which plants, my father worked for JCI for 30 years even before the Canby Oregon plant was JCI it was Globe Union. My father was head of maintenance at the Canby plant when he passed away in 2012. Eric Bergquist. In the early days, he told me to never use an Optima as their failure rate was horrid, something like a 20% failure rate in the 1st year and nearly 40% after 3 years. I hear they are much better now. I run Interstate in my cars and probably will for the rest of my life. JCI is probably the only supplier of batteries I will ever run.
@@lesstech74 knew a guy who worked at a reman place (starters & alternators) he said the same thing ,different stickers
the HD alternators got a gold colored pulley
I bought a Walmart budget battery for 49.95. It's still goin strong here in the craptastic weather of New Jersey. It's now 6 yr old goin on 7. Best 50 bux I've spent in a while . The battery is blue on the label. Great videos bud as always. Stay safe and have a great holiday
Thanks! A great holiday to you!
Might be luck. I got a bad WM budget battery; it didn't even last a day. Fortunately, they took the return.
@@big800wildcat I'm not positive but I do think wm remans those budget batteries. I did have excellent luck with mine but friends had some bad results. But I do believe also that if whatever the battery was put in needs to be running pretty tip top shape as to not crank too much just to start daily .most batteries don't like to be worked real hard like being drained very much especially cheap batteries. Most of my experience over 35 yrs has brought me to this evaluation of this . And if you drain a battery dead then for instance charge it at say 10 amp for only long enough to start your car than that will damage the battery. If you drain the battery, charge it at 2 amp for 8 to 10 hours .that should replace the ampacity so it will hold a solid charge . I've had very good luck charging low and slow rather than boiling the battery at 10 or more amps .
Not only do you have the normal work every content creator has with editing and filming but you actually put way more work into the content.... In the sense that... You actually put in a ton of real work.
Not to mention everything is geared to help all of us out and not just mindless entertainment.
You and Chrisfix have the best content and work ethic out there.
Props to project farmer!
It's funny because I bought a cheap Walmart deep cycle battery for my boat as a starting battery and trolling motor battery. That battery was charged and drained (from trolling) over and over again for years. I was amazed at how well it worked and just thought it was a fluke since it was such a cheap battery.... Good to find out the Walmart batteries really are better. Goes to show you that more expensive isn't always better.
Impressive results! Thank you for the feedback
I did exactly the same thing. I had 2 27 series hooked parallel for my 12V Trolling motor and a single 12V for starting and they lasted for years and years. All the batteries are made by three different companies and I think Johnson makes most of them.
Deep cycle batteries are meant to be drained down and recharged. These batteries tested are not for deep cycle use, starting use only.
Walmart stuff is actually quite often good quality. Any walmart brand frozen food is usually great tasting, and walmart car audio amps are actually good too
true but keeping a lead acid battery charged correctly and electrolytes level good and avoid deep discharging and very high amp draw are the most important things for battery life as well as total discharge cycles..
Dude I just want to say how much I appreciate your channel! Am all about the reviews of things and you save me a ton of time. You have my trust!
I appreciate that!
I can't help but say to myself after every one of your videos "this man is full of integrity". Your content is the most useful and unbiased that I find on TH-cam.
How do the batteries compare in corrosion?
It really isnt a matter of the batteries it's how the batteries are installed in the cars.
personal experience my optima red top i bought in 09 is still going strong in 2023
I also have a optima yellow top that sees to drain dead every few months (parasitic loads in my truck) and its still goin purchased in 2016
Thanks for the feedback.
As someone who used Optima for many years with great success, there was quite a noticeable drop in quality after Johnson Controls bought them out, at which time the warranty was also reduced in the number of years it was valid. 20+ years ago I had a yellow top that had an entire cell crushed in an accident when it was already a few years old, and that battery continued to work well for another three years in another vehicle after the cell was crushed. That would never happen with an Optima now. Odyssey batteries are the way to go if you want a top-of-the-line battery these days.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm we're going to test that.
Optima has changed hands again and went back up in quality.
@@scottdhorn our hybrids Panasonic battery is still holding on after 14 years. The agm's really do outshine when you deep drain them. Recently a shipping company left the lights on for two weeks and the battery appeared dead. Took 2 whole days of trickle charging to get it up n going again. I did some research and apparently the only acceptable replacement for the Panasonic 12v AGM is the optima yellowtop. Unfortunately they're both crazy pricey but they're the same price for either or, so..
Hybrids are cool but holy smokes are some repairs expensive
@@mustangdemon87 i personally don't think so. mine didn't even last 5 and a half yrs i payed with tax and all around $335 for my optima YT group 35
Love your reviews! Just got the jumpstarter based on your tests!
Thank you very much! You're the first comment too!
lucky ur the first comment
I'm actually looking to do the same thing for all of our vehicles
accobra I’m watching to see what battery to get for my first car
@@Subie_Gang190 We usually buy our batteries from Les Schwab we've had very good luck with them.
one man Consumer Report with an accuracy and none bias. thank you.
You are welcome!
I think you and your reviews are great! Best I have seen on TH-cam and you should be commended on being sponsor free. I trust you and your reviews more than any of the others with many, many THANKS!
Thanks so much!
This is the most humble man on earth this has to be the most expensive test hes ever done
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm sure he returned all of these
People can stop giving me crap for Walmart batteries now.
I guess I should quit calling them neverstart lol
Walmart really gotten better on last couple year on all fronts. I needed a UCB stick in hurry once at they nearly as much basics and same price as Amazon/bestbuy. They've even starting selling premium racing bicycles on-line (I think it's a pet project of one grandsons or something like that) that are good as premium offerings from Trek or Specialized and half the price (if you google Viathon)
He should have naught the yellow ever start
@@runningwithshemp I just replaced the Walmart battery in Hyundai elantra in south florida after 7yrs not dead but wearing out.... did all sorts of research before and was looking at something else before looking at the battery that was there already... which I did buy to replace the factory one that died after 3yrs.
I've been getting costco batteries for my pathfinder, town car, lesabre and others.... last ones I've needed I bought at Costco for town car and dies less than a year - got "free" replacement - had to pay for the now more expensive difference.... died in just over a year got another one free w/ complaint died in less than a year..... they were grumpy about it each time and basically told me to eff off. before that in the 25 I think years I've bought batteries at Costco I had ONE die in the warranty - which used to be decent - period.
to be UNFAIR - my local Costcos management SUCKS! Their idea of "if you are ever unsatisfied" means they expect 30-90days maximum to decide if you are satisfied - told that specifically by managers and I did not abuse the returns... I only return or complain if something is really, really bad.
I’ve had several Walmart batteries leak & cause corrosion damage.
Honestly, this has been the most useful video you have ever done, IMO. Walmart is best for motor oils and now batteries too. Who would have believed that?
Thank you for the feedback!
@TheCheesePlease Lol no. Take a look at the video this gentleman did on oils. I'm not saying I'd use Walmart oil, but it definitely isn't the worst stuff out there.
@@rapTorfx4, I would feel comfortable using the Walmart oil, but only for 3000 Mile intervals
Very good again! Lately I've been having good luck with AAA batteries, the convenience of them coming out to help you at a bad time, test your system is priceless
Thanks!
YES !!! I like that, now I'm about to buy some deep cycle batteries for my boat. I would love to see a test with those types.
Great suggestion! Thank you
Project Farm I agree! Deep cycle for my camper is what I’m interested in.
@@ProjectFarm yep, do the deep cycle battery comparison. also if possible do a comparison video between solar panels. it might be expensive but pretty please do it
Thanks for your good work. And commitment to excellence.
Back in the 70s I lived by Lake in the Woods.
( minnesota )
The fashionable way of thinking, there, was to used a deep cycle marine battery for your car.
I don't know if the batteries are still made the same way now. But at that time the deep cycle batteries used solid plates, and that is why thy could be deep cycled. The automotive batteries had a non conductive foam core, with a plating of metal.
And that is why thy do not like to be deep cycled.
Oh,,, and at that time, the deep cycle marine batteries, were about 30 % cheaper.
Thanks for sharing your videos.
oreilly deep cycle batteries are awesome for the money i took the 6 6 volt batteries out of my golfcart and put 3 12 volt oreilly deep cycles in 3 years ago still going strong mind you a golf cart load is extremely hard on those batteries they are not designed for that kind of application but at the time 300 dollars was far cheaper then 800 and hell glad i did it. mind you the cart will last all weekend of constant use it dont last as long as it did with the correct batteries but hey it gets us all weekend long and you can charge it overnight so i cant complain on the whole switch all though i did have to buy 3 cheap batterie tenders but still cheaper then 800 in batteries.
I buy "Interstate" brand batteries. Proven track record with me for my cars for the last 20 years. Usually found at mechanic garage gas stations.
jack gamble Costco sells interstate also
...for only $ioo.oo
There's an interstate in my buick, think it was made in 2006 still going strong.
In what climate do you live? I think my oldest battery is 5-6 years..
@@olik136 Georgia so probably very ideal conditions, very little sub zero exposure.
I've had good luck with the napa batteries. Last one I got was during a promo and I received a $20 visa card back. It was pretty close to Walmart price at that point. I didn't have to go to Walmart which is worth the $5 extra 😂.
Thanks for sharing!
160 to 199 near me.
Good on you for not going to Walmart.. the corporation that has facilitated the destruction of our economy for many years
@@sincerelyrob4240 Haven't been to walmart for 689 days. Nothing in that store I need. I get what ever I need from our 2 little towns in central ND USA. Yes just bought a couple of group 31 batteries from NAPA last week I may have paid a couple of bucks more but they 20 miles from home.
@@sincerelyrob4240 I’m pretty sure your thinking of Amazon
I Love your videos and the way you test everything so well and the way your so honest about what you do its hard too find honest people like you I really do appreciate that about you your the best.
Thanks!
I'm impressed! Every week you have a well planed, edited and easy to understand video. Keep up the good work Sir.
Well said...agreed
My favorite TH-cam contributor. Allways educational and well thought out. You sir are the man. Keep up the good work.
Been running Everstarts for a while, even in Montana where we see -30 at least once per winter....never had any issues. Nice to see the results back it up.
Thank you for the feedback
Same... last year in NW Montana it was 46 below and my Walmart battery had no issues
I live in Ontario and work on cars as a hobby, 61 years was 11 when I started, here batteries need a lot of care. Started spending winters in AZ. a few years ago.
I still play with cars and almost every one I deal with, buy or repair needs a battery, I think the heat is much harder on them than the cold.
How long years? My Toyota Camry factory battery is still going strong after 4 1/2 years in Western Pa!
@RPT Enterprise Same here, bought two of them and they both were losing amperage. Got a prorated refund on both and haven't bothered with NAPA since.
Very well thought out testing procedures, explanations and final graphical break down.
I spent some of my years working in a materials testing lab. Our focus was ASTM standards for testing of materials. Materials for construction which included everything...EVERY MATERIAL down to its component level, even to the chemistry from which it was composed.
ASTM testing protocols are a crazy maze of interdependant prerequisites. Many times mind boggling.
So, I think you did a very fair, if not excellent job of simulating an ASTM test protocol.
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KUDOS bro 😊
Thanks!
woohhh O.O I was just told this weekend I should replace my old battery in my car cause it was getting weak. Good Timing Thankz Project Farm.
you put a lot of money and effort into these videos and it pays off, thank you
A few years back there were only 4 battery manufacturers in either the world, or the United States, which seemed odd because there were probably hundreds of brands. Also many brands used multiple manufacturers depending on line and type (agm, group number, gold/red/blue, platinum etc.) I always try and buy batteries who at least list the manufacturer, and have had terrific luck with Johnson controls, that being said I think the quality has dropped in the last 10 years.
Most of the differences between the duralast and super start can be explained by production variance. Lead acid batteries are very low tech, and minor differences in things like plate thickness can make a big difference in performance.
Lastly, the small battery tester used is not a good method to test batteries. They have come to prominence throughout the industry because they are quick and easy, cheap, and don't require much knowledge to use. I have seen them call good batteries bad and bad ones good, fairly often, while I have never seen a proper carbon pile load tester give an inaccurate reading when used correctly. The best method to test batteries is load tester that can put a load of at least half of the cranking amps rated. A full load test will ensure that the batteries voltage path is capable of transferring the full current of a load through the battery, and instead of basing the results off of calculations, produce a verified function under load. Much like a damaged wire that will ohm out as having good conductivity with an ohmmeter, a battery can have low internal resistance with no or low loads, but fail when a high load is applied.
The quality of basically everything has shat the bed the last decade or so. Really sucks.
My beloved Remington got bought out 8 or so years ago and now they're a damn joke. Sickening.
And I agree on battery testers. AutoZone"tested" our Panasonic 12v AGM battery from our hybrid after a shipping company deep drained it for over 2 weeks. Thing was declared deader than dead.
Trickle charged it for 2 days and now it's working the same as it was before the fools 'killed' it
I bought 2 ever start group 27 batteries for my Cummins diesel after this video. Here I am over 5 years later and those 2 batteries have just become bad. Refered back to the video and am off to buy two more at Wal Mart! Thanks Project Farm!!!
I'm forever thankful for your time and efforts to show us interesting subjects with neutral honest tests. God bless you, please keep going.
Thank you for the feedback
@Project Farm - Here I am 3 Years Later. This video is in my recommended feed. I actually suggested the idea of this video years ago. It's actually great to see this again as a refresher. Still watch your Videos Todd. Thanks again for everything you do. You are awesome!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Haha same here, in Europe we mostly uses VARTA or Banner batteries.
Really appreciate the summary. I'm sold on batteries from Walmart based on performance, value and warranty with two, so far. As stated early on in the video, battery prices have gone nuts; so easy to overpay unnecessarily.
agreed used both die hard and ever start, for the money the ever start is the best value of cost and performance. I tested my ever start batter that I have used every day for 5 years and it still came out as good.
Would love to see an updated test of the major brands again.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarmplease include interstate next time!
@@ProjectFarmplease include interstate next time!
@ProjectFarm can we also get a deep cycle battery test?
I love the videos BTW.