i feel the creator, i could never write a straight-up romance story, but a romantic storyline inside a bigger story, absolutely. also, i need more bi panic moment from luz, like when she was smitten by amity's siblings, that was adorable. i'm so excited to see more of her and amity, bc luz is totally the kind of person that would never think someone has a crush on her, so she can't see amity's feelings lmao, and the moment she will realize it, oh how glorious it will be
Also, feel like he was taking a jab at Star Vs. and probably attacking the executives who apparently ordered to make love triangles to attract shippers to the fandom, allegedly saying they wanted something like Team Edward and Team Jacob from Twilight. She wouldn't do that and I think it's for the best, because love triangles done bad have ruined too many shows.
@@fanaticaH oh absolutely, if i sense a love triangle in a show, i automatically lose 50% interest ( i keep 50% in case the show actually turns out to be good)
@@neivilde.1242 I think it can work well on teen or adult shows, specially if they're a better produced soap opera. But why did Regular Show have a love triangle, specially one so forced and unconfortable to watch? It didn't need one.
I....don’t think that’s how you define queerbait. Owl House, She Ra, and Steven Universe aren’t queerbait because their queer relationships are both canon and fully fledged out (or pretty directly planned to be in Owl House’s case). Where as voltron is queerbait because the second they confirm Shiro is gay they immediately kill off his boyfriend and pretend it never happened.
I'm severely disappointed in the amount of official merch the owl house has. Disney is so rude. I had to buy a bad girls coven shirt offline from a third party
@@LangkeeLongkee true! I supported a local business on etsy buying a different shirt with the runes on it for my friend. I just think disney's treatment of shows like this and gravity falls shows with it's merchandising.
Because, buying official merch of a show is a direct way to tell them "This is what we want." Because if Disney can't profit off of the show, Disney won't continue making the show.
I dismissed Owl House, based on the scraps of it I've seen on Tumblr or Instagram, and I was content with never watching it. And then, at the start of this year, out of sheer boredom I turned on the TV for the first time in months, and what else should play on Disney other than the Grom Episode itself... Suffice to say, by the end of that week I have finished the 1st season and am now waiting impatiently for the 2nd one.
Okay but like Eda having the curse and her monologue about it hit hard. To me, that's symbolism of a disorder/chronic illness. As someone who has a disorder it was really emotional to hear a character on screen say how I feel. It made me cry seeing a cartoon character feel the same emotions I felt. It was an amazing feeling that I never knew I could feel
felt the show didnt do it justice and we coulda discovered more this this video is good don’t mind the toxic fandom or what they say as a LUNTER shipper I suffered a lot unfortunately hoping it’s be canon know lumity Stans are crazy what thy do is inexcusable and petty but pray it gets better always felt lumity was contrived like the finale but what can I say write to Disney and hope
A truely good cartoon. Is one that makes a child's imagination soar and teach them social and life lessons. But also doesn't bore the adults in the audience. It allows them to enjoy the media that they use to enjoy with a greater understanding of an underlying joke. (Hence why I love ed, edd and eddy...)
0:46 to be fair, they stopped calling her "half-a-witch", and called her "leaf girl" instead Probably to demotivate her by making fun of her power so she feels bad and doesn't attack them lol
Just because something has magic in it, doesn’t mean it's a Harry Potter rip off. JK Rowling didn’t originate the idea of magic, wizards and witches, Harry Potter is just the most commonly known.
The Owl House has become one of my favorite shows. Also I'm one of those hopeless fools waiting for a Gravity Falls x Owl House crossover. Also also, Negative looks fabulous no matter what they wear omg. Edit: Owl House is Fantasy/Horror?? That explains a lot.
@@icecreamhero2375 Okay not meaning to be rude here I hope this doesn't come off this way and please don't be mean to me back this is a genuine question. I've seen you around before in comment sections relating to the owl house and I've figured you don't like the show I'm pretty neutral towards it but can you tell me why your being a little negative towards this comment? Just a genuine question here.
@@whiterose8775 Also I imagine it going like this. Dipper: She's too reckless and nutty lets ditch her Mabel: We can't that will hurt her feelings we have to be nice to her and hope she goes away.
He helped Eda conquer her fear of her curse, helped King learn more about himself, and made Lumity canon in 1 episode. Anyone who tries to argue with you doesn't have much ground to stand on.
You know I never compared anything in the magical school genre to Harry Potter. I always saw each magical school as there own thing unless they were being meta about it.
to be fair,it's not like harry potter INVENTED the magical school genre: that shit was already HUGE in the uk long before the series was ever a thing (boarding school stories are big there,since they have more of them).
yeah, I mean the Owl House even did the Harry Potter thing themselves ("We had a hat"), but the entire magic system is like NOT the same (also the world and creatures are different) Also I read a book series in German (sadly it's only in German), also about a magical school, but it's a magical school in a magical world. And the worldbuilding is very easy at the beginning but everything gets better and more complicated with every book. The characters, the magic, the world, the universe, everything. The original plan is to save the world (because it's like twin worlds and every 10 000 years a world goes down and they have to establish a new one) or move everyone from one world to the other but the great plan of ✨the unknown brains✨ went wrong 10 000 years ago because one of the people with special powers (there are five and they have to make the world able to live in) got in the one world but they shouldn't because of the game rules or something. So it gets very complicated very fast (Spoiler: They have to free the unicorn to save both worlds but then the magic vanishes) but it also kinda makes sense. The first few books were VERY magical-school-storyline but then it got really big. So if you smash a lotta fairytales and Harry Potter together and mix it with a lot of creative space and DAMN GOOD STORYLINE you get the Sumpflochsaga. It's still my favourite book series ever.
No one is keeping you hostage. The skies the limit. Besides do you guys really think other countries would be so opened to the lgbt community as much as America is open? Besides Canada. That country is always open.
"Which makes me question if I'd sleep with a cougar" "Which only makes me more attracted to her" You... you doing all right there bud? Are they doing alright? I think this show's done something to them.
Me too! There's something about a mortal protagonist obsessed with magic and a magical person she looks up to and wants to be like Finding a rival to lovers trope with a green haired, high-class, intelligent witch
Queer bait? Didn't they introduce the "relationship" in Owl House (and Adventure Time) pretty late into the season and it was very one sides for the whole until it actually hit things off. The series hooked me more when the MC learned to make magic with symbols instead of...well magic
Also I'm pretty sure that Adventure Time set up the relationship in the first 2 seasons because those two characters barely interacted in the first season.
0:58 not everyone knows humans exist, most actually dismiss it as myth or just aren’t aware of them entirely! Like how we see most superstitious creatures
It's not just circles though. Literally in the first season Luz finds out that the circles are shorthand for runes. Inherently magical beings don't need to fill in the gaps, that happens naturally so they don't even need to know
@@ButterflyScarlet Yeah, that's for Luz, the main character. The glyphs are interesting. But for LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE at the time this video came out, it's JUST circles. And that's hella boring for so much potential in a magic world.
Amphibia and the Owl house are the best cartoons that air on TV right now..... The title for the best cartoon on a streaming service is a different matter however....
The owl house is oficially not qeerbaiting cos Luz and Amity are dabing and Amity actually said “im a good girlfriend” (to Luz). And its canon. Which is amazing
When I watched it, I just fell in love. It is just such a fun show. I will probably rewatch season 1 when season 2 does come out (and I will also probably do Lumity fanart lmao)
Rather than development it's more like we learned more about him like how he's good at teaching (I think) or how he gets stage fright like in the grom episode. Not necessarily character growth like you meant (Pretty sure that's what you meant, correct me if I'm wrong)
Okay, fr tho when Ida and Luz shared that moment, that was very emotional. Also, I liked the whole rant of how you were talking about the whole streaming context thing.
I appreciate the Owl House for using "discrimination" to focus on aspects that don't exist in reality like people being bigoted towards spell classes and humans while the shows characters seems to fully accept people who are a part of real marginalized groups like race, gender, and sexuality, giving good examples I think is the best way to show kids that bigotry is wrong
Actually, it's funny that you said "You can jump into any episode and get what's going on" because I actually started watching the Owl House because of that. I was staying at my grandma's apartment one day with my siblings and she put on Disney channel. Episode 4 of The Owl House came on, I watched it and I loved it. After it ended, I immediately went to go watch the rest of it.
If you want magic/wizard school books, check out The Tapestry series by Henry Neff. Starts out YA-ish but quickly outgrows that label and is predicated on a lot of Irish mythology
Being disappointed when you wake up in America is just so relatable. No one likes America if they do, it's a robot. Wow this has a lot of likes just know this is a joke it's not serious one person made that mistake and implied that because I hate America I'm spoiled and was handed everything as a child when that's far from the truth
Honestly my biggest problem with the world building is grom. Why doesn't everyone just shoot grom with everything they have once he pops up? Or hell just bring in afew coven gaurds since grom will have implications for the whole boiling isles.
I'm sorry but I have got to say this because it's going to bother me if I don't. None of the shows you showed are qu33rbait (I have to type it like this because youtube deletes comments with the actual word qu33r in them) and neither is The Owl House. Qu33rbait is when it looks like they're going to set up a qu33r romance, or depict lgbt characters heavily in the story, but don't actually do so. They literally had qu33r characters in them. Did they get as much screentime as we wanted? No. They're on kids shows and had to be heavily censored. She-Ra: Noelle had been setting up a slowburn romance with Catra and Adora since season 1. The other wlw couple on the show couldn't explicitly say they were married until the final season. Noelle had to fight to get this much. It's not bait, it's a slowburn mixed with censorship. Adventure Time: If you watch Distant Lands, you know the reason that they weren't together together was because of the Network. It was stated by Olivia Olsen in 2014 that the reason that they weren't actually together was because of where Adventure Time aired. They were probably too cautious later on, but it's not bait. Steven Universe: There was a literal lesbian wedding. Not bait. The Owl House: Has Amity have a crush on Luz. Has the creator confirm that both girls are wlw. Says that she is fighting to get this storyline out there. Is literally a bisexual woman fighting against Disney censorship. IS ON SEASON ONE. You cannot call bait during the first five minutes of a show. This is why there's a bunch of people calling bait in the MCU fandom after a 30 second interaction between Sam and Bucky. Because no one actually understands what it is. The Owl House is not bait, it is a slowburn romance being set up for future seasons. I had to deal with another person calling the show bait today as well, and literally comparing Dana Torrence to JK Rowling. You know, comparing a bisexual woman fighting for rep in children's television, and a literal transphobe. Stop using the word when you don't know what it means. Go watch something with actual qu33rbait (The Magicians, Supernatural) and then get back to me.
I can’t wait for your season 2 video. Also, I would love a video on amphibia (but if you don’t feel it I understand, I just love both the show and your content).
You should review season two at some point! The series really feels more fleshed out and like the creators had more say in what happened! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it 💛
Yeah, I agree with ya. The only thing that irritates me about lgbt+ relationships in shows, is when people only want the relationship to happen because it's lgbt+. Regardless of characters, I see people (happy)freaking out because they are gay(etc) instead of two good characters you like and also wanted to see together. Not saying they can't be gay or what have you, but that shouldn't be the main selling point.
Well, LGBT+ people are constantly discriminated against and told that they shouldn’t even exist. So of course they’d be happy when characters are gay. They’ve been denied that kind of representation all their lives. They deserve to be excited about characters being gay. They deserve to be excited that future youths will grow up with characters that show them it’s OK to be LGBT+. They deserve to be happy that future youths won’t spend their entire childhoods hating themselves, or feeling alone like they did.
@@cartoonishidealism582 I disagree. Maybe the older people, but when twenty-five and younger are happy just because it's a gay(+) relationship, something is wrong there. They aren't happy for the characters, they're happy for the type of relationship. As if the type of the relationship matters more than if it actually makes sense for the characters to be together. That attitude irritates me. Two examples, Korra and Asami, Legend of Korra. And Cyrus and Jonah, Andi Mack. Korra and Asami had no build-up throughout the show, was just shoehorned in during the last season. Cyrus had an unhealthy obsession with Jonah. These two couples didn't make much sense. As I said, the characters can be whatever they're written as, but just being happy that they're together because it's a gay(+) relationship is wrong. It needs to make sense in the story, and the characters need to be compatible.
@@Aaron__Parker you have to keep in mind what was happening at the time these shows were released. I can't speak on Andi Mack (never seen it) but Korrasami was a HUGE breakthrough in lgbt representation in children's cartoons. The writers wanted to make it cannon earlier in the show but Nickelodeon heavily censored it. Eventually all the creators could get was a hand hold. After the finale aired, fans were ecstatic! This kind of thing was never shown, and the reaction from the fanbase showed that people *wanted* qu*er relationships. This allowed for shows like KIPO and She-Ra to show explicit gay relationships. I hope we can get to the point where a gay relationship is reacted to the same way as a straight one, but the reality is that we have barely any representation at all, so when we do get something, it's exciting!
@@wapaloosie9512 I don't think representation is an issue for the lgbt community. Many streaming sites have special categories specifically designated to the independent factions within said community. Even my cable provider has these sections. Representation today is not a problem. Maybe ten years ago I would have said you had a good argument there. Hell, maybe up to 2015-ish I would have said that's a fair point. But there has been and is more content coming out with this representation. LoK had issues in general with relationships, a bunch of useless drama. Cramming in any relationship during the last season, especially when done so poorly, is a slap in the face to all the fans of the show. That being said, I haven't read the Korra comics yet. My last point I suppose is, what is the inverse of being happy to see a gay(+) relationship because it's a gay(+) relationship? One of two things. Being happy at seeing a straight relationship, or being mad for seeing a straight relationship. Both are wrong feelings to have because it's the characters that should matter, not the type of relationship it is.
Thank you for this video I kinda forgot almost all of this show because I binge watched it yesterday when I was sick so the recap helped me remember because I really love this show.
"The LGBT community foster really strong fanbases." For real: include one gay kiss in the last episode and lgbt people will watch the series 3 times over, then force everyone they know to watch it. Companies, this is money you are just sitting on.
Two things: One, you must be using Bing or something if you having a hard time with Lumity Fan art Two, Did the definition for Queerbait change recently...asking for a friend.
Honestly though! Wizard school is one of my favourite fantasy story things, along with secret magician who can't tell anyone and secret alter egos. The owl house scratches a specific itch where it's wizard school yes but also it's so clear there's a world that exists outside of it. In potter it's there, sure, but EVERYTHING is tied to Hogwarts. Everyone has a Hogwarts house. Everyone been to hogwarts. It's all tied back to the school. Here, the school is just one part of it. There's also the covens, the Boiling isles themselves, all of the secret natural witchcraft, The Demons, it's all really cool.
Negative Legends: They set up Owl house to break down the Harry Potter fantasy. I'm pretty sure that the studios figured out that the LGBT Community foster like really strong base and those fanbase help keep shows alive. Just look at Supernatural. Magicians: Am I a joke to you?
My only problem with Harry Potter is you have to do a but load of research to find facts about real magic were as owl house has more facts about real magic and tells it out loud for all to know and I love this story as well ❤️💗♥️💖💗💛
This show is going to be remembered like Gargoyles, something of quality and originality that slipped past the Disney executive. The best character is Eda the Owl Lady herself, you have a older woman here taking the role of the mentor, while simultaniously having her own struggles and doubts, but always as a completly independent self confident person, and with the lame 'back in my wild days' trope that demands that all women no matter how rebelious when young must become quiet mild mannered types as they age. We have tons of content about liberated/ing young women but almost nothing that dose this for older women.
Season 1 didn't quite sell me on the show. Hopefully Season 2 will change that. Thankfully amphibia has been hitting it out of the park for me 2 seasons in a row. With the gravity falls team I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the owl house has a story that grabs me
I watched The Owl House from start to finish in two days bc I wanted to watch this video without spoilers and let me just say that my tumblr queue is exclusively The Owl House themed for months.
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Amity: "My future girlfriend must be smart, poised, elegant..."
Luz: trips and falls flat on her face
Amity: "...I want that one."
True
oh my god yes
pretty much
I like how in character it is for both of them. Just makes it so much better.
Ha! You thought you could catch me out but no. I know that this is actually a real lumity comic that I’m pretty sure you didn’t come up with
I just finished binging The Owl House with my brother like two days ago, and I am now putting pictures of Amity on my bedroom wall.
As you should
Good child
I see your a junko kinnie so it makes sense
A fast learner I see
...You should get that checked...
/s
negative legend: *spoils the whole show*
also negative legend:did i say this video has spoilers?
I mean
He have not spoil the compleet last episode yet before he said there spoilers
I personally am all for spoilers.
🔥🔥🔥
I upvoted just because of that X'D (luckily I've watched the whole show already)
Humor 101.
i feel the creator, i could never write a straight-up romance story, but a romantic storyline inside a bigger story, absolutely.
also, i need more bi panic moment from luz, like when she was smitten by amity's siblings, that was adorable. i'm so excited to see more of her and amity, bc luz is totally the kind of person that would never think someone has a crush on her, so she can't see amity's feelings lmao, and the moment she will realize it, oh how glorious it will be
Also, feel like he was taking a jab at Star Vs. and probably attacking the executives who apparently ordered to make love triangles to attract shippers to the fandom, allegedly saying they wanted something like Team Edward and Team Jacob from Twilight.
She wouldn't do that and I think it's for the best, because love triangles done bad have ruined too many shows.
@@fanaticaH oh absolutely, if i sense a love triangle in a show, i automatically lose 50% interest ( i keep 50% in case the show actually turns out to be good)
@@neivilde.1242 I think it can work well on teen or adult shows, specially if they're a better produced soap opera.
But why did Regular Show have a love triangle, specially one so forced and unconfortable to watch?
It didn't need one.
@Ayla Gray Maybe on the last episode and people would fight about it being bait or not.
Welp you didn’t have to wait to long! Luz blushed at amity!! ☺️☺️
I....don’t think that’s how you define queerbait. Owl House, She Ra, and Steven Universe aren’t queerbait because their queer relationships are both canon and fully fledged out (or pretty directly planned to be in Owl House’s case). Where as voltron is queerbait because the second they confirm Shiro is gay they immediately kill off his boyfriend and pretend it never happened.
Exactly!
Shera is wlw queerbait. , Voltron aint is.
@@MaelZack didn't the lesbian ship is She-ra become canon though, thus making it not queerbait?
i think they were being sarcastic?
@@cooldudebro99 ohh if that's the case, my bad!! i'm really tired and terrible and reading tone through text aha
I'm severely disappointed in the amount of official merch the owl house has. Disney is so rude. I had to buy a bad girls coven shirt offline from a third party
*RIGHT?* i need me some merch and i need me a bad girls coven shirt.
Why do you wanna give Disney your money anyway? Independant artists making fan stuff for the win
@@LangkeeLongkee true! I supported a local business on etsy buying a different shirt with the runes on it for my friend. I just think disney's treatment of shows like this and gravity falls shows with it's merchandising.
@@haleybug230 eh still. I avoid giving Disney my money if I can help it.
Because, buying official merch of a show is a direct way to tell them "This is what we want."
Because if Disney can't profit off of the show, Disney won't continue making the show.
I dismissed Owl House, based on the scraps of it I've seen on Tumblr or Instagram, and I was content with never watching it.
And then, at the start of this year, out of sheer boredom I turned on the TV for the first time in months, and what else should play on Disney other than the Grom Episode itself...
Suffice to say, by the end of that week I have finished the 1st season and am now waiting impatiently for the 2nd one.
Same
good choice
whats wrong with the grom episode?
@@lonniegabbie Nothing. That’s the point. After watching it, I decided to watch the entire show.
@@lonniegabbie nothing? They’re saying they watched the show *because* of the grom episode.
Okay but like Eda having the curse and her monologue about it hit hard. To me, that's symbolism of a disorder/chronic illness. As someone who has a disorder it was really emotional to hear a character on screen say how I feel. It made me cry seeing a cartoon character feel the same emotions I felt. It was an amazing feeling that I never knew I could feel
felt the show didnt do it justice and we coulda discovered more this this video is good don’t mind the toxic fandom or what they say as a LUNTER shipper I suffered a lot unfortunately hoping it’s be canon know lumity Stans are crazy what thy do is inexcusable and petty but pray it gets better always felt lumity was contrived like the finale but what can I say write to Disney and hope
A truely good cartoon. Is one that makes a child's imagination soar and teach them social and life lessons. But also doesn't bore the adults in the audience. It allows them to enjoy the media that they use to enjoy with a greater understanding of an underlying joke. (Hence why I love ed, edd and eddy...)
Its Harry Potter but with aliens.
I hate the fact that Google dares to tell me: "Season 2 available on Disney Plus!" it's not, stop playing with my feelings you monster TwT
*aggressively cries in a corner*
it's cause it counts 1b as a season 2 despite it just being season 1 lol
Me: *[Sadistically laughs in pirated shows]*
0:46 to be fair, they stopped calling her "half-a-witch", and called her "leaf girl" instead
Probably to demotivate her by making fun of her power so she feels bad and doesn't attack them lol
I mean you didn't miss anything- hooty stan
He forgot about best character hooty!!!! Oh no!!
Hoot, hoot
Hooty is the worst character in my opinion
@@manga_mav eh we all got our favorites, Hoot reminds me of one of my best friends growing up
@@manga_mav it is ok Hooty is a love hate character he is not necessarily but fun to have :-)
What happened in the montage, stays in the montage. So the pigama stays on No questions. 🤣
First off, your look is absolutely stunning, holy shit.
They look like an E-boy combined with an 80's mom and it somehow kinda works.
Just because something has magic in it, doesn’t mean it's a Harry Potter rip off. JK Rowling didn’t originate the idea of magic, wizards and witches, Harry Potter is just the most commonly known.
@@devynpanchal7612 he literslly did, Also he implied it
i actually started re-watching the show on Disney+ today!!! it’s so good and i’m so fuckin HYPED for season 2
I'm dying due to hiatus. They're still in the recording stages T_T
The Owl House has become one of my favorite shows. Also I'm one of those hopeless fools waiting for a Gravity Falls x Owl House crossover.
Also also, Negative looks fabulous no matter what they wear omg.
Edit: Owl House is Fantasy/Horror?? That explains a lot.
An amazing show like Gravity Falls with a terrible show like Owl House. No thanks.
@@icecreamhero2375 Okay not meaning to be rude here I hope this doesn't come off this way and please don't be mean to me back this is a genuine question. I've seen you around before in comment sections relating to the owl house and I've figured you don't like the show I'm pretty neutral towards it but can you tell me why your being a little negative towards this comment? Just a genuine question here.
@@whiterose8775 I'm not trying to be mean to anyone my target is the show itself. And I kinda just want to be heard.
@@whiterose8775 Also I imagine it going like this. Dipper: She's too reckless and nutty lets ditch her Mabel: We can't that will hurt her feelings we have to be nice to her and hope she goes away.
@@whiterose8775 Also it's kinda one of my triggers. Whenever it's brought up I get upset and this crappy show keeps coming up in my feed.
11:19 : "I'm not crying, you're crying"
Wow, you're right, I am crying!
Hooty is the best character.
Prove me wrong.
U got me
HOOOOOOOT
He helped Eda conquer her fear of her curse, helped King learn more about himself, and made Lumity canon in 1 episode. Anyone who tries to argue with you doesn't have much ground to stand on.
Cant disagree with ya. Hooty is honestly underappreciated by both the characters in the show and the fandom.
You know I never compared anything in the magical school genre to Harry Potter. I always saw each magical school as there own thing unless they were being meta about it.
to be fair,it's not like harry potter INVENTED the magical school genre: that shit was already HUGE in the uk long before the series was ever a thing (boarding school stories are big there,since they have more of them).
yeah, I mean the Owl House even did the Harry Potter thing themselves ("We had a hat"), but the entire magic system is like NOT the same (also the world and creatures are different)
Also I read a book series in German (sadly it's only in German), also about a magical school, but it's a magical school in a magical world. And the worldbuilding is very easy at the beginning but everything gets better and more complicated with every book. The characters, the magic, the world, the universe, everything. The original plan is to save the world (because it's like twin worlds and every 10 000 years a world goes down and they have to establish a new one) or move everyone from one world to the other but the great plan of ✨the unknown brains✨ went wrong 10 000 years ago because one of the people with special powers (there are five and they have to make the world able to live in) got in the one world but they shouldn't because of the game rules or something. So it gets very complicated very fast (Spoiler: They have to free the unicorn to save both worlds but then the magic vanishes) but it also kinda makes sense. The first few books were VERY magical-school-storyline but then it got really big.
So if you smash a lotta fairytales and Harry Potter together and mix it with a lot of creative space and DAMN GOOD STORYLINE you get the Sumpflochsaga. It's still my favourite book series ever.
“Everyday, I wake up, in America”
*pain intensifies*
No one is keeping you hostage. The skies the limit. Besides do you guys really think other countries would be so opened to the lgbt community as much as America is open? Besides Canada. That country is always open.
I think th explanation of Luz not noticing Amity loving her is that she was partially distracted by wanting to cure Eda
"Which makes me question if I'd sleep with a cougar"
"Which only makes me more attracted to her"
You... you doing all right there bud? Are they doing alright? I think this show's done something to them.
I think their reaction is absolutely reasonable xD
I personally love the comparisons between Lumity from toh and Diakko/Dianakko from lwa
Me too! There's something about a mortal protagonist obsessed with magic and a magical person she looks up to and wants to be like
Finding a rival to lovers trope with a green haired, high-class, intelligent witch
Queer bait?
Didn't they introduce the "relationship" in Owl House (and Adventure Time) pretty late into the season and it was very one sides for the whole until it actually hit things off.
The series hooked me more when the MC learned to make magic with symbols instead of...well magic
I wouldn’t call it queerbaiting either because it’s going to be canon. Dana has confirmed this.
Also I'm pretty sure that Adventure Time set up the relationship in the first 2 seasons because those two characters barely interacted in the first season.
the queer baiting is the sexual attraction you have to foxy eda and goth babe lilith.
I don't think he understands the term "queerbait" because after he said it he showed pictures of canon couples... kissing. That's the opposite.
I think he just misunderstood the term.
How did you not mention Hooty his play date scene deserves a mention all on it own.
"...a character whose foxy attitude makes me question whether or not I'd sleep with a cougar"
Me: 👁️👄👁️ This man is spitting facts.
0:58 not everyone knows humans exist, most actually dismiss it as myth or just aren’t aware of them entirely! Like how we see most superstitious creatures
I can relate to waking up in America. Can I just wake up in like space one day? Idc if I'm not wearing a spacesuit atleast I'm not in America
or you could just come over here to canada. it's just as cold as space,but it's still better than america.XD
@@JT5555 oh yeah right
Every morning I wake up in France... At least I'm not in America
I thought the magic system in this show was epic, until I realized just how much of it is literally just circles. ;v;
but it's epic circles
@@adsfornothing3146 Haha, I like that response
It's not just circles though. Literally in the first season Luz finds out that the circles are shorthand for runes. Inherently magical beings don't need to fill in the gaps, that happens naturally so they don't even need to know
@@ButterflyScarlet Yeah, that's for Luz, the main character. The glyphs are interesting. But for LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE at the time this video came out, it's JUST circles. And that's hella boring for so much potential in a magic world.
Amphibia and the Owl house are the best cartoons that air on TV right now.....
The title for the best cartoon on a streaming service is a different matter however....
For me it’s Young Justice that’s the best on a streaming service.
Carmen Sandiego for Netflix.
@@sakunaruful That was good but the ending frustrated me
Hilda.
@@sakunaruful YAAAS
...Okay, it's official. No one knows the difference between queerbait and censorship.
The owl house is oficially not qeerbaiting cos Luz and Amity are dabing and Amity actually said “im a good girlfriend” (to Luz). And its canon. Which is amazing
Just rewatched this video. I really wish you would make a video review on season 2 and maybe one on season 3🫶🏻
When I watched it, I just fell in love. It is just such a fun show. I will probably rewatch season 1 when season 2 does come out (and I will also probably do Lumity fanart lmao)
Eda, the Owl Lady, is my favorite Tenchi Muyo character!❤ Now where's her spaceship?!
little washu stole it.
Oh my god how did I not see it before!?
What about King's development? He got that right?......right? ಠωಠ
Rather than development it's more like we learned more about him like how he's good at teaching (I think) or how he gets stage fright like in the grom episode. Not necessarily character growth like you meant (Pretty sure that's what you meant, correct me if I'm wrong)
Yeah thanks. I was originally just making a joke but you bring up good points. ( ´◡‿ゝ◡`) gratsi.
*laughs in king’s development*
*starts talking about Harry Potter*
Mhm. Ah yes. Insert my favorite scene; The Choosey Hat
Finally, a youtuber I'm subscribed to talking about Owl House.
What, do I have to wait until the finale for it to get more widespread appeal?
1:49
BOY OH BOYI SURE HOPE YOU LIKED SEASON 2 EPISODE 5 THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS RUINS, MY GUY
WHY DO YOU LOOK SO CUTE THO THIS HOODIE OMG
Okay, fr tho when Ida and Luz shared that moment, that was very emotional.
Also, I liked the whole rant of how you were talking about the whole streaming context thing.
when your early but don't know what to comment
"I'm so unoriginal '
Omgg, both this show and Infinity Train are some of my favorite cartoons!
After I saw them kiss, I told my mom and she asked if I want a girlfriend
Dana definitely knows what she's doing and that's ✨breaking my heart✨ and than repairing it with Lumity!!
Me: (Realizes that TOH is still not on Disney+ in Canada for some reason)
Me 10 minutes later: “Yar har, pirating time”
I appreciate the Owl House for using "discrimination" to focus on aspects that don't exist in reality like people being bigoted towards spell classes and humans while the shows characters seems to fully accept people who are a part of real marginalized groups like race, gender, and sexuality, giving good examples I think is the best way to show kids that bigotry is wrong
This show is literally fire 🔥
Actually, it's funny that you said "You can jump into any episode and get what's going on" because I actually started watching the Owl House because of that. I was staying at my grandma's apartment one day with my siblings and she put on Disney channel. Episode 4 of The Owl House came on, I watched it and I loved it. After it ended, I immediately went to go watch the rest of it.
I sure hope you had already watched season 2 because OH MY GOSH I NEED SEASON 3 NOW-
Omg your animal onesie is great!!! Plz wear it again!!!!
Love the Owl House, can't wait for season two.
1:24 I actually started choking on my milk, that literally caught me so off guard i-
You choked on yourself?? 😂
If you want magic/wizard school books, check out The Tapestry series by Henry Neff. Starts out YA-ish but quickly outgrows that label and is predicated on a lot of Irish mythology
Being disappointed when you wake up in America is just so relatable. No one likes America if they do, it's a robot.
Wow this has a lot of likes just know this is a joke it's not serious one person made that mistake and implied that because I hate America I'm spoiled and was handed everything as a child when that's far from the truth
I replayed that part multiple times pfft
@@fruitygarlic3601 Its my dream 🤚😑
America atleast it's not the UK.
Then why do so many people wanna come here?
You could move to another country, but most a racist and require you tk show an ID to vote
I discovered TOH because I saw a clip of the grom episode and I was just like "WHAT IS THIS SHOW AND WHERE CAN I FIND IT."
Honestly my biggest problem with the world building is grom.
Why doesn't everyone just shoot grom with everything they have once he pops up?
Or hell just bring in afew coven gaurds since grom will have implications for the whole boiling isles.
11:20
“I-i’m nOt CrYing, YoUr CrYing”
I'm sorry but I have got to say this because it's going to bother me if I don't. None of the shows you showed are qu33rbait (I have to type it like this because youtube deletes comments with the actual word qu33r in them) and neither is The Owl House. Qu33rbait is when it looks like they're going to set up a qu33r romance, or depict lgbt characters heavily in the story, but don't actually do so. They literally had qu33r characters in them. Did they get as much screentime as we wanted? No. They're on kids shows and had to be heavily censored.
She-Ra: Noelle had been setting up a slowburn romance with Catra and Adora since season 1. The other wlw couple on the show couldn't explicitly say they were married until the final season. Noelle had to fight to get this much. It's not bait, it's a slowburn mixed with censorship.
Adventure Time: If you watch Distant Lands, you know the reason that they weren't together together was because of the Network. It was stated by Olivia Olsen in 2014 that the reason that they weren't actually together was because of where Adventure Time aired. They were probably too cautious later on, but it's not bait.
Steven Universe: There was a literal lesbian wedding. Not bait.
The Owl House: Has Amity have a crush on Luz. Has the creator confirm that both girls are wlw. Says that she is fighting to get this storyline out there. Is literally a bisexual woman fighting against Disney censorship. IS ON SEASON ONE. You cannot call bait during the first five minutes of a show. This is why there's a bunch of people calling bait in the MCU fandom after a 30 second interaction between Sam and Bucky. Because no one actually understands what it is. The Owl House is not bait, it is a slowburn romance being set up for future seasons. I had to deal with another person calling the show bait today as well, and literally comparing Dana Torrence to JK Rowling. You know, comparing a bisexual woman fighting for rep in children's television, and a literal transphobe.
Stop using the word when you don't know what it means. Go watch something with actual qu33rbait (The Magicians, Supernatural) and then get back to me.
I agree. I love him but it’s not q33rb@iting. It would be odd if Luz and Amity got together in season 1
PREACH
THIS, also straight couples get slowburns like that as well. Look at Avatar or something. It's pretty obvious that Amity has a crush on Luz.
@@semolinalibra +Them.
I can’t wait for your season 2 video. Also, I would love a video on amphibia (but if you don’t feel it I understand, I just love both the show and your content).
STRAIGHT HAIR STRAIGHT A'S STRAIGHT FORWARD-
@Star Storm straight path, I don't cut corners ~
I 👁 make a point 📌 to be on time ⏰ head 🥇 of the student 📚📙council 👯♀️💃
*I DONT LAUGH OUT AT PARTIES*
I JAM TO PAUL MCARTNY
I WAS ADOPTED WHEN I WAS TWO
3:26 the magicians has got you covered (I Know, generic as hell name but it's amazing)
You should make another owl house vid, it's been a while
Wait till they see season 2 and 3
4:16 i'm dying because this has strong " sáquenme de Latino América!" vibes xD earth is not safe anymore, lets all go to mars instead (??)
Ikr 💀
You should review season two at some point! The series really feels more fleshed out and like the creators had more say in what happened! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it 💛
Yeah, I agree with ya. The only thing that irritates me about lgbt+ relationships in shows, is when people only want the relationship to happen because it's lgbt+. Regardless of characters, I see people (happy)freaking out because they are gay(etc) instead of two good characters you like and also wanted to see together. Not saying they can't be gay or what have you, but that shouldn't be the main selling point.
Well, LGBT+ people are constantly discriminated against and told that they shouldn’t even exist.
So of course they’d be happy when characters are gay. They’ve been denied that kind of representation all their lives.
They deserve to be excited about characters being gay.
They deserve to be excited that future youths will grow up with characters that show them it’s OK to be LGBT+. They deserve to be happy that future youths won’t spend their entire childhoods hating themselves, or feeling alone like they did.
@@cartoonishidealism582 I disagree. Maybe the older people, but when twenty-five and younger are happy just because it's a gay(+) relationship, something is wrong there. They aren't happy for the characters, they're happy for the type of relationship. As if the type of the relationship matters more than if it actually makes sense for the characters to be together.
That attitude irritates me.
Two examples, Korra and Asami, Legend of Korra. And Cyrus and Jonah, Andi Mack. Korra and Asami had no build-up throughout the show, was just shoehorned in during the last season. Cyrus had an unhealthy obsession with Jonah. These two couples didn't make much sense.
As I said, the characters can be whatever they're written as, but just being happy that they're together because it's a gay(+) relationship is wrong. It needs to make sense in the story, and the characters need to be compatible.
@@Aaron__Parker you have to keep in mind what was happening at the time these shows were released. I can't speak on Andi Mack (never seen it) but Korrasami was a HUGE breakthrough in lgbt representation in children's cartoons. The writers wanted to make it cannon earlier in the show but Nickelodeon heavily censored it. Eventually all the creators could get was a hand hold. After the finale aired, fans were ecstatic! This kind of thing was never shown, and the reaction from the fanbase showed that people *wanted* qu*er relationships. This allowed for shows like KIPO and She-Ra to show explicit gay relationships.
I hope we can get to the point where a gay relationship is reacted to the same way as a straight one, but the reality is that we have barely any representation at all, so when we do get something, it's exciting!
@@wapaloosie9512 I don't think representation is an issue for the lgbt community. Many streaming sites have special categories specifically designated to the independent factions within said community. Even my cable provider has these sections. Representation today is not a problem. Maybe ten years ago I would have said you had a good argument there. Hell, maybe up to 2015-ish I would have said that's a fair point. But there has been and is more content coming out with this representation.
LoK had issues in general with relationships, a bunch of useless drama. Cramming in any relationship during the last season, especially when done so poorly, is a slap in the face to all the fans of the show. That being said, I haven't read the Korra comics yet.
My last point I suppose is, what is the inverse of being happy to see a gay(+) relationship because it's a gay(+) relationship? One of two things. Being happy at seeing a straight relationship, or being mad for seeing a straight relationship. Both are wrong feelings to have because it's the characters that should matter, not the type of relationship it is.
Thank you for this video I kinda forgot almost all of this show because I binge watched it yesterday when I was sick so the recap helped me remember because I really love this show.
How we feeling now that Amity and Luz are canonically dating? Also can we talk about Eda's nonbinary ex, Raine Whispers?
Yes
Genderfluid? I thought Raine was Non - Binary
Raine is nb. Not GF
"The LGBT community foster really strong fanbases." For real: include one gay kiss in the last episode and lgbt people will watch the series 3 times over, then force everyone they know to watch it. Companies, this is money you are just sitting on.
It got cancelled tho hmmmmmmm
I love your face, wtf how could someone be that beautiful !
love your content and your video also 🤭😂💜
I passed my lumiti obsession months (still love them ) ago, im with zeb and kallus from rebels now.
He denfitly wants that coguar Cougar!
When I find out that a anime doesn’t have a season two I look for fanart🥲
I’m pretty sure I finished the series like 5 times without realizing it
Eda scream Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo with not only her character design, but everything else you have said.
Two things:
One, you must be using Bing or something if you having a hard time with Lumity Fan art
Two, Did the definition for Queerbait change recently...asking for a friend.
"and is clearly a plot hole" well well well well well look how that aged.
Honestly though! Wizard school is one of my favourite fantasy story things, along with secret magician who can't tell anyone and secret alter egos. The owl house scratches a specific itch where it's wizard school yes but also it's so clear there's a world that exists outside of it. In potter it's there, sure, but EVERYTHING is tied to Hogwarts. Everyone has a Hogwarts house. Everyone been to hogwarts. It's all tied back to the school. Here, the school is just one part of it. There's also the covens, the Boiling isles themselves, all of the secret natural witchcraft, The Demons, it's all really cool.
Hey, I like the animal onesie. Loved Owl House! Good review; I finished Owl House a few months ago and this reminds me how much I liked it!
I would love if you do this exact thing with the seson two.
Thank you for your reviews.
Negative Legends: They set up Owl house to break down the Harry Potter fantasy.
I'm pretty sure that the studios figured out that the LGBT Community foster like really strong base and those fanbase help keep shows alive. Just look at Supernatural.
Magicians: Am I a joke to you?
You should watch she-ra and the princesses of power!!
And the best part? Amity has the same voice actor as Tinkerbell! Yeah, just wanted to point that out if you guys aren’t aware of that first.
In the newest season Luz and Amity get together it is great!
9:55 Now this would be a great idea for a kid's show.
3:38 - 3:46 So... why is she wearing the Hexside uniform when she's not a student yet?
My only problem with Harry Potter is you have to do a but load of research to find facts about real magic were as owl house has more facts about real magic and tells it out loud for all to know and I love this story as well ❤️💗♥️💖💗💛
This show is going to be remembered like Gargoyles, something of quality and originality that slipped past the Disney executive. The best character is Eda the Owl Lady herself, you have a older woman here taking the role of the mentor, while simultaniously having her own struggles and doubts, but always as a completly independent self confident person, and with the lame 'back in my wild days' trope that demands that all women no matter how rebelious when young must become quiet mild mannered types as they age. We have tons of content about liberated/ing young women but almost nothing that dose this for older women.
Oh btw.. I love your style. Like holy heck.. I love your clothing styleeeeeeee
" Just look at Supernatural. "
Me: Hannibal and the sudden new wave of fannibals 😆
I seen it, I watched it, and Luz needs a moment of development like the rest of the cast, and lastly, YES!
"I'm not crying, you're crying"
YEAH I AM WHAT ABOUT IT. I CRY A LOT OKAY. I CRIED WATCHING AN EPISODE OF NICHIJOU. DON'T @ ME.
luz is just the female Adrien, from miraculous ladybug. And you are lucky you can wath the owl house, becasue i cant see it, where i am from.
Season 1 didn't quite sell me on the show. Hopefully Season 2 will change that. Thankfully amphibia has been hitting it out of the park for me 2 seasons in a row. With the gravity falls team I'm sure it's just a matter of time before the owl house has a story that grabs me
HOOT HOOT. FINALLY...someone who knows how to recommend this master piece ✨👁️👄👁️✨
I love this show, if you haven't watched star vs the forces of evil or the tangled series yet you definitely should!
Star vs evil ended went down hill but I feel like it's still worth watching for Animation nerds
I really thought Luz was ace, I mean her outfit is even an upside down ace flag. Oh well, we need that bi representation as well!!!!
Now I know what Luz colour scheme reminded me off. I was questioning the whole time what looked familiar about her
Yeah I thought so too but i think she’s taking inspiration from the good witch azura!
You can be both??
I watched The Owl House from start to finish in two days bc I wanted to watch this video without spoilers and let me just say that my tumblr queue is exclusively The Owl House themed for months.
Can you review season 2?