Fenring was a *genetic* eunuch, i.e., his genes were such that he could not have children of his own body. But *physically* he was quite functional when it came to sex. Please note that.
@@AdamMichalMarkowski prequels mean shit. They are fanficks written by Herbert's sonny boy and his low level writers colleague. They both milked Herberts original idea, Dune universe and botched his plans. Don't treat it as canon, since they are not. Dune saga includes 6 books and stands unfinished.
There is records of castrati singers having an active sexual life, an eunuch with a functional penis is not necesarily impotent, obviously sterile and lacking normal testorene levels most probably not that interested in sex but there is no reason to him to not have sexual activity, including coitus.
Chemical castration is a thing. It could be achieved by hormonal imbalances due to genetic deficiencies or errors in Fenring's breeding line. He's a "failed' Kwisatz Haderach bc of this.
@@beberivera7011 I've heard of chemical castration. It's something they do to rapists and pedophiles right? But again doesn't that make them unable to perform sex, which is not the case with Fenring
@@rizzorizzo2311 "For time" But we needed to do a shitty side-story for Zendaya that never happened in the books and just make Chani as a character look worse than she was in the books.
I need to re-read Dune. I remember at the end Count Fenring was going to fight Paul as the Emperor's Champion but Fenring backed down, feeling a mutual sympathy and understanding with Paul as both of them were 'freaks' from Bene Gesserit breeding. I also remember the Bene Gesserit had sent Margot and Fenring to Geidi Prime as Margot was to seduce Feyd Rautha. I also remember Margot thinking "What a terrible place to have a child." It was also Margot that left the hidden message on the leaf in the conservatory for Lady Jessica.
This is all correct. There's also the Baron being equally as afraid of the Count as he was The Lady. Calling him "A Wolf that pretends to be a rabbit", or something like that.
The daughter was a terrible plan ( writing), an illegitimate daughter of a baron, and could not become an empress. Not hiw succession works, and she would have Neen killed by the freman
Most of these videos leave out holzmann engines...and that guildsmen are navigation pilots using spice to " predict" the path of the heighliner...its complicated stuff 😅
We are finally getting great dune content and good high quality movies. Please let’s enjoy while we can because I don’t see these movies going past the 3rd book.
@@hyperguyver2 Dune Messiah is not blockbuster material. It would have to be combined with Children of Dune like in the 2003 miniseries, and be another miniseries, to work.
They're referred to as witches repeatedly in the books due to some of their abilities being viewed as mystical as opposed to the results of vigorous muscular and biological control training.
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Fenring was a *genetic* eunuch, i.e., his genes were such that he could not have children of his own body. But *physically* he was quite functional when it came to sex. Please note that.
I do believed I read in one of prequels a dialogue between Fenrings where he mentioned to Margot he is actually unable to have sex with her.
@@AdamMichalMarkowski In the Brian E.U. he gets caught bangin his wife by his wifes daughter so I'd just count it as functional 😉
Brian Herbert is a noncanonical hack.@@AdamMichalMarkowski
@@AdamMichalMarkowski prequels mean shit. They are fanficks written by Herbert's sonny boy and his low level writers colleague. They both milked Herberts original idea, Dune universe and botched his plans. Don't treat it as canon, since they are not. Dune saga includes 6 books and stands unfinished.
@@lxdead5585i take it you had a bad experience reading those huh 😅
I think sterile would be a more accurate term. Eunuch implies being unable to perform sexually due to castration
There is records of castrati singers having an active sexual life, an eunuch with a functional penis is not necesarily impotent, obviously sterile and lacking normal testorene levels most probably not that interested in sex but there is no reason to him to not have sexual activity, including coitus.
Chemical castration is a thing. It could be achieved by hormonal imbalances due to genetic deficiencies or errors in Fenring's breeding line. He's a "failed' Kwisatz Haderach bc of this.
@@beberivera7011 I've heard of chemical castration. It's something they do to rapists and pedophiles right? But again doesn't that make them unable to perform sex, which is not the case with Fenring
I think that BOTH Hasimir and Margot Fenring should be in Dune! They are both so important to the story, Hmmmm?
Margot fenring is in the new dune 2 trailer 😊
Hmmmmhmmmm aaahhhhhhh
Apparently Hasimir got cut for time ☹️
At least we got Margot though
@@rizzorizzo2311 "For time"
But we needed to do a shitty side-story for Zendaya that never happened in the books and just make Chani as a character look worse than she was in the books.
I need to re-read Dune. I remember at the end Count Fenring was going to fight Paul as the Emperor's Champion but Fenring backed down, feeling a mutual sympathy and understanding with Paul as both of them were 'freaks' from Bene Gesserit breeding. I also remember the Bene Gesserit had sent Margot and Fenring to Geidi Prime as Margot was to seduce Feyd Rautha. I also remember Margot thinking "What a terrible place to have a child." It was also Margot that left the hidden message on the leaf in the conservatory for Lady Jessica.
This is all correct.
There's also the Baron being equally as afraid of the Count as he was The Lady. Calling him "A Wolf that pretends to be a rabbit", or something like that.
@@wiilov Always hard for me to wrap my head around the fact the Baron is Lady Jessica's father.
Beware viewing Brian's fanfic as canon
The daughter was a terrible plan ( writing), an illegitimate daughter of a baron, and could not become an empress. Not hiw succession works, and she would have Neen killed by the freman
Best duelist in the empire and better than Paul at fighting. ( apparently) he is said to have killed first at 4 years old. When he encountered a p .
What is a p?
@@ryanhughes1101 pedo
SAINT Alia of the knife. Put some respect on her name.
Was so happy to see her in part one. Can't wait to see her again in part two and hopefully in Dune Messiah.
@lordcrunk that won't happen. It's impossible and would be foolish to do something like this.
I'd love to see Count Hasimir Fenring & Lady Fenring in DUNE Part II.🖖💜👌
Fenring is the friend we need
Hope to see him in messiah
Thanks. I never got a notification on this one. ( TH-cam)
Talk about the Hyperion series
The merged Fenring thing sounds like what they did with Lyet Kynes, with probably similliar motivation behind it. Sign of times, I guess.
Fenring reminds me of William Marshall.
Also, wait... did you say the Navigators "fold space?"
Most of these videos leave out holzmann engines...and that guildsmen are navigation pilots using spice to " predict" the path of the heighliner...its complicated stuff 😅
It would be a big mistep to not include the count.
Cotton Hill also killed fifty men
Unidentified thinking machine space?
NO WE WONT
Haven't we have enough of Dune already? Why not "Stranger in a Strange Land"?
We are finally getting great dune content and good high quality movies. Please let’s enjoy while we can because I don’t see these movies going past the 3rd book.
@@saaraluv4 it won't make it past the second book, it's too niche despite being the source of modern sci-fi
@@hyperguyver2 Dune Messiah is not blockbuster material. It would have to be combined with Children of Dune like in the 2003 miniseries, and be another miniseries, to work.
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You keep calling the Bene Gesserit "witches." You know they're not really magical, right? They just let ppl think they are
They're referred to as witches repeatedly in the books due to some of their abilities being viewed as mystical as opposed to the results of vigorous muscular and biological control training.
@@beberivera7011 EXACTLY. It's more of a slur. In another video Marvelous also called them magical
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Can't get over how horrible the costumes for the mini series were. Made it unwatchable.
Hmmm...ahhh...