Did he really say, "..since he didn't really love Chani.."? WTF man? that's all I can hear listening to it over and over... and that is one of the most insanely wrong thing I've heard in some of these Dune videos.
I like following the Dune series but there’s bits I’m a little fuzzy on. Will the God Emperor of Dune story be a film or is it just gonna focus on Paul? Quite interested to see how they’d do Leto’s story.
an unbeatable clone army is great until they decide that maybe they, the unbeatable clone army, should be in charge. Or if you make them devoid of free will they are just waiting for someone else to use them. Way more trouble than they're worth, tbh
I always thought the tanks were awesome until then...Steel tanks or vats that they spoke "The Language of God" to to make scientific wonders. Not the comatose women of their society whose wombs they manipulated. The idea of Spice coming from there was extra gross.
"Alleged Extreme Feminism Chauvinism?" ... Ok two things here: 1. -Word You are looking for is Misandrism 2. -It is hardly alleged in the world of story, though I would argue it is more of a god-complex. Though there is no denying that they considered men as stupid and inferior -> so they did consider women from outside the group or lesser in the group's hierarchy. Same but to somewhat lesser degree goes for Face Dancers.
@@shanenolan5625 the masters didn’t do the dirty work? Are you referring to the face dancers that returned from the scattering? Because the masters were involved with the conspiracy by the fact that Bi’jazz was there to implant Hayte’s order to kill Muad’Dib. And let us not forget the master’s hand in creating the who- I mean honored matres
@tgiacin435 no that's high profile glamour work . Dangerous yes but I mean cleaning sit piles or farming. Or guard duty . Remember in heretics of Dune ? Waff . Gives a description of the hierarchy. And there are more than 3 groups. And the twisted mentats aren't counted .
@@shanenolan5625 I wasn’t counting the twisted mentats. Technically the gholas would be the third. But then again none of the books go into detail about the other classes, but I do remember face dancers being the servant class, but then again, face dancers would be a Jack of all trades for different jobs. I would think they’re strength would increase if they took on a more hulking form like Scytale when he was guarding Edrich
I tend to think the secret final boss of dune is Princess Irulan. Scytale is definitely more successful in the long term at oppossing the Atredies than any of his more noble counterparts though.
Who cares about Villanue milk toast Dune version? I only hear radio salience after the trailer of the new movie come out, an initial excitement and then nothing, and if that true Villanue really not cares about the chronology of Dune, the only part where there is a Face Dancer is prior the events of Dune, when Shaddam wanted to create his own version of spice with the help of the Tleilaxu, and he was deceived by one.
For a ghola Duncan Idaho to have been made,someone had to collect his cells or a Tleilaxu would have to receive them to grow in the tanks... I'd easily wager if Scytale is in the next Dune, it would be a small scene to set up Duncan's return in a future "Children of Dune" movie. Dune has actually become popular after all these years&for Momoa to shave off his beard, he must have a contract binding him to a few more films as Duncan.
@@patrickhayden7206 They not even did a proper world building in the last movie and you think that they would care about that small detail? Now they would introduce the Emperor and Irulan, something that they should have done in the previous movie, and now the story would make no sense whatsoever because of it.
@@TheKeyser94 I agree. The world building is lacking and they should've brought The Emperor and Irulan in from the start, along with mention of the Butlerian Jihad...He had to condense&edit it all to make it accessible to the masses. A streaming show with many seasons might've been better, but in no way would've made the same revenue. Like all the different versions, it has it's pros&cons.
@@patrickhayden7206 Is a movie of two hours and half long, the miniseries could do that, even added Shaddam and Irulan subplots in less of two hours in the first episode, and Villanue couldn't in over two hours? No, that is pure laziness, to be honest I really not care about the new Dune Part 2 movie, maybe I would download it, but only to put in my archive, I had the miniseries, and the Lynch version, the theatrical version and the fanmade edit that add the scenes that Lynch wanted in his movie.
@@TheKeyser94 They're all decent in their own ways and the time frames they were released. I was just super hopeful the newer Dune would finally get us a "God Emperor of Dune" film.
He didn't blind him.....one of the fremen assassins used a stone burner that exploded and that blinded Paul......
It's these frequent inaccuracies that make all these new dune videos so hard to watch as a person who's read and reread these books for two decades
Thanks for introducing me to this Dune character.
gary oldman for scytale in dune messiah.
Scytale was my favorite character from the series
He was definitely one of the most interesting characters along with Thufir Hawat and the Baron imo.
THe FACE-SITTERS!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👹👹👹
Stop bro lmao
The bene Gesserit hsd no problem detecting the new face dancers at the time of heretics
Did he really say, "..since he didn't really love Chani.."? WTF man? that's all I can hear listening to it over and over... and that is one of the most insanely wrong thing I've heard in some of these Dune videos.
I hope part 2 sets up Messiah as a part 3. Messiah also needs to be fluffed up a bit if it's going to be a trilogy capper.
I like following the Dune series but there’s bits I’m a little fuzzy on. Will the God Emperor of Dune story be a film or is it just gonna focus on Paul? Quite interested to see how they’d do Leto’s story.
surprised they didn't just genetically engineer an unbeatable clone army
This maybe how the Sardaukar came to be...
an unbeatable clone army is great until they decide that maybe they, the unbeatable clone army, should be in charge. Or if you make them devoid of free will they are just waiting for someone else to use them. Way more trouble than they're worth, tbh
Kinda similar to the “faceless men” of the GOT series. Interesting
Where do U think pudgyboi got the idea for the faceless men?
Nelson will be a perfect Count Fenring.
Pretty cool, I did not know about the miniseries
Thanks
The tanks have the worst story and it only comes out during the scattering.
I always thought the tanks were awesome until then...Steel tanks or vats that they spoke "The Language of God" to to make scientific wonders. Not the comatose women of their society whose wombs they manipulated. The idea of Spice coming from there was extra gross.
"Alleged Extreme Feminism Chauvinism?" ... Ok two things here:
1. -Word You are looking for is Misandrism
2. -It is hardly alleged in the world of story, though I would argue it is more of a god-complex. Though there is no denying that they considered men as stupid and inferior -> so they did consider women from outside the group or lesser in the group's hierarchy. Same but to somewhat lesser degree goes for Face Dancers.
Sweet
I believe they had a worker class or warrior class as well . ( that defended their homeworld, and they tanks ) .
There were three main classes, the masters and face dancers as well as being the training facility for twisted mentats
@@tgiacin435 they had the regular mentat training facility as well once . But the masters didn't do the dirty work .
@@shanenolan5625 the masters didn’t do the dirty work? Are you referring to the face dancers that returned from the scattering? Because the masters were involved with the conspiracy by the fact that Bi’jazz was there to implant Hayte’s order to kill Muad’Dib. And let us not forget the master’s hand in creating the who- I mean honored matres
@tgiacin435 no that's high profile glamour work . Dangerous yes but I mean cleaning sit piles or farming. Or guard duty . Remember in heretics of Dune ? Waff . Gives a description of the hierarchy. And there are more than 3 groups. And the twisted mentats aren't counted .
@@shanenolan5625 I wasn’t counting the twisted mentats. Technically the gholas would be the third. But then again none of the books go into detail about the other classes, but I do remember face dancers being the servant class, but then again, face dancers would be a Jack of all trades for different jobs. I would think they’re strength would increase if they took on a more hulking form like Scytale when he was guarding Edrich
For a second, it sounded like he wasn't speaking English. Wtf am I trying to follow here lol
I tend to think the secret final boss of dune is Princess Irulan. Scytale is definitely more successful in the long term at oppossing the Atredies than any of his more noble counterparts though.
Did you read the books? Not asking sarcastically. Irulan is addressed in the books
Danusko
A master of stealth it may be.
But does it know the basics of CQC?
“Hailed,” not “hailded”
a lot of errors in this video.
They should hire a reader that can pronounce things properly, including normal English words
he was a master not a face dancer
Scytale was promoted to Master in Heretics of Dune after a long line of serial life memories as a ghola.
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Pindoaw
powindah?
Your lack of correct pronunciation is disturbing
Who cares about Villanue milk toast Dune version? I only hear radio salience after the trailer of the new movie come out, an initial excitement and then nothing, and if that true Villanue really not cares about the chronology of Dune, the only part where there is a Face Dancer is prior the events of Dune, when Shaddam wanted to create his own version of spice with the help of the Tleilaxu, and he was deceived by one.
For a ghola Duncan Idaho to have been made,someone had to collect his cells or a Tleilaxu would have to receive them to grow in the tanks... I'd easily wager if Scytale is in the next Dune, it would be a small scene to set up Duncan's return in a future "Children of Dune" movie. Dune has actually become popular after all these years&for Momoa to shave off his beard, he must have a contract binding him to a few more films as Duncan.
@@patrickhayden7206 They not even did a proper world building in the last movie and you think that they would care about that small detail? Now they would introduce the Emperor and Irulan, something that they should have done in the previous movie, and now the story would make no sense whatsoever because of it.
@@TheKeyser94 I agree. The world building is lacking and they should've brought The Emperor and Irulan in from the start, along with mention of the Butlerian Jihad...He had to condense&edit it all to make it accessible to the masses. A streaming show with many seasons might've been better, but in no way would've made the same revenue. Like all the different versions, it has it's pros&cons.
@@patrickhayden7206 Is a movie of two hours and half long, the miniseries could do that, even added Shaddam and Irulan subplots in less of two hours in the first episode, and Villanue couldn't in over two hours? No, that is pure laziness, to be honest I really not care about the new Dune Part 2 movie, maybe I would download it, but only to put in my archive, I had the miniseries, and the Lynch version, the theatrical version and the fanmade edit that add the scenes that Lynch wanted in his movie.
@@TheKeyser94 They're all decent in their own ways and the time frames they were released. I was just super hopeful the newer Dune would finally get us a "God Emperor of Dune" film.