Learning how to observe | Krishnamurti
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Extract from the sixth public talk in Saanen, 1977. Watch the full video at • J. Krishnamurti - Saan... ⠀
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This is the one thing that i am very much struggling with in life. Becoming free from attachments. I have been able to overcome the attachments with materialistic things and people, but when it comes to my family( my mother and my brother) i feel completely drowned down into the illusions. There have been many times when I felt like completely detaching them and moving forward but then the sense of guilt(selfishness)start to appear in my head. It makes me to realise how much suffering and pain and tears i would put unto them because of my selfishness to be free from all these illusions.
Just take care of them and don't expect 'anything' in return from them.then you are free of attachment
Me to but I think it’s all just a process
If you can live with family without attached than you can actually be free.
If you go to a jungle to become free than that freedom will lost as soon as you come in contact with the world.
meditate plenty of. choiceless awareness of thoughts and controller.
The desire to get rid of attachment is also an attachment! The main point is to discover the love that is there inside you so that every action of yours actually arise from it. You has to be a reflection of Love.
Your love towards your family should be based on love and not out of attachment. Don't get fixated by the word "attachment". Just love 🙏
Oh, that was mind blowing, It never even occurred to me... "alone" means "all one" How totally obvious this is, thinking about it now. What a gem!
Wow
It's awesome
Attachment and freedom from it
To become Alone and
"Alone" means "All- one"..
Beautiful...
Do you observe it ? Or just overwhelmed by the idea ?
Krishnamurti, the Speaker immer wieder wie ein klarer Kristall. Das Nichanhaften an Familie, Bruder, Schwester, Nation, Aussehen, Intelligenz, Besitz, sozialer Herkunft ist fuer alle das Beste.
"When you're attached to a person, there is no love" - Wiser words have not been spoken.
this is all you need right here
Desire for comfort creates illusion.
~ J. Krishnamurti
Observation is everything, it makes us who we are not to become but to be.
Observe without concept's/ label's take everything as is
@@thesage90did you observe it or just overwhelmed by the idea
I have been reading Krishnamurti since I was 16 ie last 40 years. I am not attached to anything in reality though there is this play going on to survive. Great fear grips you when you do what he suggests, ie observe.. basically meditate.
What he says is very true, you see light engulfing you and your heart almost stops. At this point I usually open my eyes out of fear. This thought of annihilation is true. First tine I am hearing this. He is actually telling you the path. Illusion fear annihilation , beyond any comfort then probably you will reach the stage where you are taken over by the otherness. But I dont have the guts to go that far. What if something happens. what if you go mad. Who is there to set it right without a guru or master?
Sir there is not sudden blast switch this to that before it one has contact with state of attention quite long physical period and functionality related thing got harmonize then there jump not something got wrong .one imagine sir there is security in before only ,when we want to hold on to persona then such thing we hear and react .sir you may live most of time state of reaction and persona related .there no reaction come even physical speaking not happen naturally there other things exist.sir what you say is not true if one does before great change happen that attention is there like shadow always .generally it is not in general people .functionality and not sounding or recognize as crazy is reaction of persona and losing persona and character nothing happen sir nothing no fear.there is real of effort less,love safe world who care about safety not that who there .yes persona die
When will you face those fears sir? If not 'now', when? The 'now' is all there ever is. The rest is just all imaginations. Trust me, you will not go insane. It's time to take your power back over your mind. Don't believe in your thoughts. You're already enlightened/awakened. Stop pretending to be unenlightened.
I hope it’s acceptable to ask you, but what colour is the light you see?
@@traceywindle962sorry but this made me laugh a little 😅
What you are experiencing is mental disorder nothing else ,
Muchísimas gracias!!!!
Gratitude! Namastê!🙏
Thanks for keep posting in
Great teaching, thanks 🧘🏿♂️
We people should stop addiction of Enlightenment.
My struggle is with Having Died Clinically in Hospital for over 15 minutes. I was told to go back and "Finish" I am now, Almost out of Food, I haven't a job or savings or anything. I'm 60 years of age.
He is correct. He could have changed the word Attachment for Anythought. So any thought that appears must be discarded, be it divine or mundane, and we know that every thought is mundane, secular, attachment. So, the situation is very clear. We only need time, intelligence, will, and energy to keep on and never give up on this last trip - towards That. Thanks for the insight.
When you're attached to a person, there is no love.
~ J. Krishnamurti
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@@Numankhan1319-w6wthe attachment leads to expectations, fear, and conditions. No attachment is true unconditional love. It means there is clarity and if something is done or not done in the relationship it’s done with purity without self needing something in return.
@@Numankhan1319-w6w Attachment is Bondage. Only a free mind knows what love is
Process of identification with anything is the starting point of attachment to it. This attachment process could lead to illusions, greed, fear ..... to anything.
We can see how seriously he spoke,each word carry weight tension nd it's serious, at first many wise sage ppl remind us this, All this is for preparation for the situation that is going to come later.while simultaneously we have to live this but as unattended/ observe while we are busy only in materialistic surrounding small promotion/gain enjoyment, but why we have to live cautiously that the main course the cycle of birth rebirth ,. And this is the ultimate goal of life; that is why we are born humans to know it and uplift oneself not miss the bus else pet fever are everywhere ready to be born as cat n dogs,That is why all this is said, start living consciously else be prepared for depromotat to be die unconsciously n so again born as unconsciously as common ordinary soul ,.due to an foolish attachments
If you have the guts to sleep
You have the guts to die
I exactly can't express why I said so coz I'm not any closer to an orator but whatever I said I feel it. Not exaggerating my words coz even when a child learn to speak, he doesn't speak because he knows the grammar and syntax etc. he speaks because he feels so with his young experience.
I know what you’re getting at. I had similar thoughts. To sleep and to die both mean that we’re no longer concerned with ourselves - alone, all-one, no other, peace, love. Then my mind and conditioning starts to take over and “I” comes up again. I also can’t express why I’m writing this but I’m also exploring and finding out for “myself” :)
There is only Love in Krishnaji.
Only a free mind knows what love is
Yes it might just be annihilation, end of everything … everything is you.
Sir, you speak of the biggest of nightmares when one actually thinks about these things.
It makes me feel a certain kind of insanity … how could one stay sane ?
I suppose it wouldn’t matter if one ends ✨ Thank you, very challenging thoughts.
Who is to dertermine what is sane and insane?
Just imagine it's scary, he says "we are afraid to be all alone" which is true All alone without anything. No one who cares about you no house no Job ofcourse One will be scared one need food cloth and shelter and how we gonna get it without money and money without a JOB?
Gratitude ❤🙏
Classic Jiddu
Mr K is as attached to the phenomenal world ad the rest of us. His repititoous phrasing is itself a giveaway, Sir. . Eg "Are u getting this" and " all the rest of it ".
There is no perception " as it really is ". I wonder if K would dare try this speech in say Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan. . ?
Thanks a lot for sharing his wisdom
How so soothing!
4:37
What if someone does it with attachment? Does he get mad like Friedrich Nietzsche?
“What if existence is our exile and nothingness our true home?”
-Emil Cioran
Oh master
Isnt seeking truth a desire and an attachment in itself? What is it that desires and seeks truth?
I guess so, and everyday I try to remind myself that the path, the journey of enlightenment is a lie. We are already here, just can't see it. As Alan Watts saidit, that's one of the biggest egotrips
You are the truth. You are the Reality.
The word "seeking" has been used from the point of view of an ego.
P.S. This question has been asked by an ego. Take a moment and look at the truth ( it is beyond the ego).
Your desire to be free of suffering
@@opgang340 you are the truth. You are the reality. If I'm the truth why I'm seeking truth.
@@masomemaleki389 because you are seeking/learning who you yourself are and to feel full ownership and enjoyment of who you are and enjoy your life without suffering, like little children still do, before their mind got in the way or fears about life got built up. If you can confidently say, feel and do to yourself, who you are, you feel that you are indeed the truth you were working out all along, and therefore, that you yourself are enough, to be happy
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Take NOthing personal as one experiences life 🌬️🎭
How true.
Ok , how it is true ? Did you look at it ?
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when he IS telling just see(without thought) because the brain has the KNOWN in clarity of what IT(eyes) immediately spontaneously look at IS the observed without thought(MIND)
I heard him saying attachment of everything and every person whether your wife , husband, boyfriend , girlfriend but never of mother? Anyone of you ever heard?
Yes, that's true, he never mentioned mother
I have been conditioned by ignorance and conclusive mindset,to remain an observer of any and every observed ( animate or inanimate) which holds my attention,or catches my fancy.This action begins with birth,and,most certainly,does not end with death !!!!! I have completely missed the cardinal truth that observation is my state.When I become an observer,then my chase of observed is a subjective action,as it is based on individual likes and dislikes.So long as I remain in observation,my perception will have no tinge of subjectivity.Not understanding this fact,makes it imperative that I have to " learn how to observe ".
Alone - all one🌼
Best of my 6:23 slot in acute period
Who of us can say they want to be separated from the ones we love? … and in the end the whole of life becomes an act of letting go of everything and everyone. ….🤔
How do you know what death is when you're alive ? 3:27
I exist (need to be exist) is root cause of desire.
Yes. The desire to be.
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Serious (world) Game (of God)
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Hello friends, nothing is wrong because living a human life is inclusive, what it matters the most is your own direct perception that penetrates your truth of your present moment , how can we unconditionally love humanity plus planet earth if we don’t love our mothers, children, spouse, friends etc…… love is love, however codependency, manipulation, control etc…..is something else, our brain cognition is mechanically conditioned since our birth , emotions are a natural guidance mechanism ,our brain natural recording is already conditioned , this process is organic .when completed detachment enter our vibrational emotional fiel is a very hallo , empty , disoriented experience it comes and go , if we are not ready we confused that with deep depression, please relax , be gentle to your self, and don’t be judgemental of your own loving heart and your own humanity , JK speaks a lot about our mind, brain etc…. We should discuss too our heart that has a deeper cognition , love JK big loving hug to all 🙏❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
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First of all,try to see putting "I"a side and see without giving name what you are observing because observer and observed r one and the same.
All one
Would someone provide the link of full time vedio of this
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He is speaking about oneness... It is most dangerous to practice alone... Those who have attachments😂
Y u want to comment. Observe your intention to comment and end that intention.
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... attachment to body, mind, ego. one way to see it is merging with the ultimate and materially giving life to millions of micro organisms right up the chain, "a cloud never dies" the water recycles and gives life to many as too with the basic elements. good bye cruel world Ha Ha Ha
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Correct me if I am wrong. In "Meditation", just observe, watch without any attachment to any thought.
Watching and listening without and movement of thought, without concentration, effort, motive direction, and the desire for a result. Observe without the observer. So there is only observing and only listening. You must start with outer observation.
@@heinmolenaar6750 what's the difference between outer observation and inner observation ?
People call me cold if i stay with observation state 👽
Dare to look ? 🤔
I disagree.
You can.
JD talks about everything the gurus talk about yet his ego won't allow him to see the profound wisdom of Hinduism .
It’s not his ego. He saw how “Hindus” are identified more with the “Hinduism” and following practices externally but not investigating for themselves …. So he stands against any notion of a Guru or religion that creates identifies ( essentially ego , division etc). He himself refused to have followers and renounced
He wanted EVERY ONE to simply discover for themselves. Not follow ANY religion ( blindly)….
I’m also a Hindu, and of course respect Hinduism teachings. But that doesn’t mean I don’t see where he’s coming from.
He will get conerted into Christian in next birth 🌹🙏
It's ONEderFULL 🎉✨🎉
True FREEdom 🕊️🤍🕊️
Is Neutrality ♾️
(JK is very dramatic lol, Self Realization is Calm/Neutral):- 😉
Giving up one's identity is impossible as a Father. We all can not abandon our families like the Buddha to eliminate attachment and find Nirvana.
Your excuse is coming from place of ignorance/illusion. Do you see that
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This is not the meaning sir
Impossible to reach this state only alone person can do it.🥹
No, in fact you can only know love you you know to deattach