Learn to observe | Krishnamurti
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
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"Man not only suffers but causes suffering" Such profound statement.
8:15 When there is complete freedom, then there is perception of the whole.
Probably the wisest man ever lived.
I agree with you :)
I give up. I will never know or experience the total freedom he talks about, I know I can pretend or be deluded but I will never experience the actual truth. Simply, the thinker went insane in utter confusion and created chaos. Good luck to others on your journey, and when you see it, feel it, that vast emptiness effortlessly. Please share it, the world needs it.
Now that you've given up, you've no stakes, no expectations, etc. You have abandoned the whole pursuit. Now, look at it again, go into it again. Since you've no objective, no expectations this time, you'll be heaps more attentive to what is being said rather than what you could achieve, what bliss you could experience, what implications enlightenment has etc. Previously, you weren't focused on what was being said (entirely) since all of this was also taking up attention. Perhaps, we all need this - total renunciation of hope & this sense of inevitability that we have of change.
But then, you'll see that if you are able to attend for a while, you'll get excited again (for all prospective miracles) and lose attention and then you're back to where you started. What does this say? Perhaps a revelation of the fact that you aren't, have never been and will never be concerned with what is being said at all! We don't want to learn and keep learning, we want to stagnate in absolute security. You (along with the rest of us) only want success (with the garb of spirituality). This 'you' and 'I' cannot change. In that sense, you are right, 'we' will never experience what he is saying, for it demands the lack of an experiencer or a centre in the first place. Hence, the need to passively observe, let the 'I' flower and wither. Now, how is this to be done? It is admittedly extremely hard, to find out and arduous to do, but everything worthwhile is hard to obtain isn't it? If truth and insight lay close at hand, wouldn't everyone be (for the lack of a better word) 'enlightened'?
You are very close to experience total freedom because you have given up. The moment the Ego dissolves and one admits that one is incapable of comprehending the truth he has reached total freedom. There is no me to reach anywhere. Just being with the delusion is to end delusion. Lots of love.
@@anannyapandey249Ok, I get what you are trying to say here, and I even feel it's relatable for me, but I am currently facing a problem. I am not able to stay in that state involuntarily. I can stay in that state, but only for some time until reality (which we have created with thought) pulls me back.
Sometimes we have to really hit rock bottom to live again
You are genuine
It is introspection which will show me that what I see as "entire humanity ", is,in actuality,one mind.individual conditioning and focus on differences based on superficial factors,gives an illusion of many.In actuality,there is one mind,which has a self- centred agenda of sensual pleasure for itself,through division and duality,and there is one identical living intelligence which unites entire humanity as " the highest known form of intelligence".subjective observation accentuates division and conflict,while objective observation brings one to the state of oneness- advaita. the choice is ours- whether we want to learn how to observe( objectively),and bring peace and harmony on our planet or remain conclusive( subjective),and perpetuate the mayhem which we see all around us.
👑👌🏽🙏no one beat this speech…🎉🎉🎉
It is very refreshing. I was lucky to attend his lectures in person. He is a pious man.
He has an incredible intellect that is beyond us. Calling him pious is your ego. Be the observer of the observed.
@@mikeferry3391 Intelligence*, any fool can have intellect but intelligence is profound
Have you changed?
Thank you for these videos 🙏
I listen her daily
what a beautiful talk, thank you
Thank You!
Observe to Learn
A very interesting man. Wish I had the opportunity to meet and talk with him 😔
Died
you are
he would tell you to stop wasting time wishing and bring your awareness back to the self : )
@@diego-on9mu lol true
Naman 🙏
Thank you sir 🙏🙏
Genius
his mind is "THE TRUTH"
Great
Today is chinese new year eve. Thanks Krishnamurti for the insightful sharing.
Makes me happy to know that people in China listen to him.
Happy new year 🎆
yes very few people listen to him.nobody want to know THE TRUTH.sometimes i fell sorry for that.
"Understand yours thought"
How to look into something as a whole but not in fragments?
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Where is the following discussion number eight?
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Nikola Tesla is the prime Model for this. The Art of Creation from the Art of Observation....
I have a question, what did K do before all this public talks and discussions?
Whether Observer and observed is one ??
it is
yes.when you give total attention.no thought in brain.therefore self dissolves and in that moment observer becomes observed.
When v realise that the observer is also made up of five elements as the observed .no difference although forms n shapes n colours may differ .At that state of mind the observer n the observed becomes one.
As per my limited knowledge.
does claiming a race contribute to racism itself? should claiming a race be classified as warfare?! why do people self identify/classify with ideas they know nothing about?
We all come from different races that gives us different looks n personality n even different mindsets etc. But thinking oneself superior to others is......
He describes all of this yet he doesn't offer a way out.
His philosophy is that you have to figure it out ypurself
That’s true!! He is orating too many questions, but no exact guidance on overcoming it. Not sure if video is cropped to starting.
@@kingknp In other, longer videos he does show what to do about the problem of the ego and suffering. But he doesn't always. So, it is rather random whether or not you are exposed to his full message.
he offers a way out and that is meditation which is choiceless observation of contents of consciousness.
observe your body and night before you sleep imagine what you want to be in life and in the morning first thing imagine. throughout the day be in awareness of the present
Yedrreerreesss
Listening to K often induces anxiety. He certainly does not offer comfort the way most all other
spiritual teachers do.
he is not a teacher,,..he's a speaker.
just listen carefully(whole attention)
may be you should think , its ok if i don;t understand him , after all there is not a exam next week and, you will fail if you don't understand him. This anxiety may be like a anxiety we feel in classes like math or chemistry , the anxiety which basically says " i should understand it but why i am not"
maybe the ego scared a little bit to this wisdom , check yourself
The truth is bitter. he attack our year old belief. We don't like that
sanekabc do not be ignorant
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