The 2024 Subaru Crosstrek is a Worse Value than the Forester (And it Doesn’t Matter)
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- The Subaru Crosstrek was improved where necessary for 2024. Compared to the Forester, the value argument is not too strong. Today, I am going to explain that, why it doesn't matter and show what the pros and cons of both.
We're also going to largely ignore their respective competitors today, those include the Honda HR-V, CR-V, Mazda CX-5, CX-30, Toyota Corolla Cross, RAV4.
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I'd like to add that the price difference between the two is smallest when you equip the Crosstrek with the same options as the forester! The Crosstrek is cheaper if you go light on the features.
I think how Subaru adds blind spot monitoring is just horrible. To get that, you have to spend over $2000. New drivers truly appreciate BSM. And with $2000+, Crosstrek is less economical than other cars in the segment. This is for the base+1 model, where Crosstrek might make sense compared to Forester.
@@dangerdaaku considering many new drivers are often kids, perhaps it’s good for them to get in the habit of doing shoulder checks. Especially when all vehicles don’t come equipped with blind spot monitoring.
@@Das_Germaican Shoulder checking is a must-learn and a must-follow skill. Said that I have heard quite a few new drivers, young and otherwise, feeling more secure with BSM present. What I find annoying is that Subaru clubs a safety feature with non-safety features, giving no option to just add the safety feature.
Here is the scenario -
Mazda CX5, which is a class above crosstrek, has nearly identical safety feature set is almost $2000 cheaper. And the CX5's base+1 has same or super comparable feature set to Crosstrek's base+1 and is available at same price. Some people have specific preferences that only a Subaru or a Crosstrek might be able to meet, but for others this price difference matters.
Outside all the arguments, Subaru is definitely doing something right for Crosstrek to be the highest selling SUV. So there is that :)
@@dangerdaaku you can’t use Mazda as an example because then I won’t have an argue. I completely agree with you as Mazda was my second choice. There are brands that don’t include it for that price in that segment.
And you're only going to get 28 on the highway that's really bad for a Forester
My cousin just got a new Crosstrek and was shocked to find his golf clubs didn't fit in the trunk! I've always liked the Forester and if I had to chose between these two the Forester gets my vote. Nice comparison, Tyler.
Not everyone needs a big and heavy car. Big doesn't mean better
Crosstrek every day for me. If I need to go for a bigger car Outback is the way to go in my opinion.
@@liv0003 crosstrek space vs forester? way more space in the Forester. price trim to trim- not that much. I want to have space, not drive in a fish can. Outback is a station wagon- still headroom is not as big as in the forester. 1,7 tons for Forester- not that heavy! Agreed on not needing space- Crosstrek is the choice! But what if you need it later on? ooopss.
Forester - for campers like me I sometimes sleep in it and there's no way i can comfortably sleep in a crosstrek
I wanted a Crosstrek for several years... Looking at it like an AWD Prius-sized, slightly taller ride height perfect car. But I found it to be too small for me. Didn't like the Forester. Ended up in an Outback and I'm thrilled with it! Very comfy. Still think the Crosstrek looks way better, but... Needed the space. Wish I could have had the sunroof from the Forester, interior space from Outback, and style of the Crosstrek.
The Outback is awesome. Love mine. Wish you the best of luck with yours. This Subaru is my fourth.
I went the reverse. Felt that the outback was too big for what we needed it for. It was a nice ride l though, very spacious and smooth.
i agree and really wished i had longer sunroof it just works so well in the outback
Outback is the best.
Have had 3 Outbacks love them All
its the panoramic view of the forester that sold me. I'm old and old school, don't like sitting in an upside down bathtub feeling in a lot of suv today
Amen. Amen.Amen. I just have difficulty getting in both! Age tells differently in all of us.
Also, the Forester felt gigantic to me after 10 yrs in a Civic. But the windows,ahh.
We took a Crosstrek for a test ride but found it too small for what we wanted. We then took a Forester for a drive and it was perfect. It wasn't that much more expensive but offered a lot more space and we actually preferred the old style infotainment (buttons and dials instead of big iPad on dash). The seats in the Forester were also much more comfortable. If I were 20, I'd likely be fine with the Crosstrek, but I'm older now, and the larger Forester (which is VERY easy to see out of) just seemed like a better daily driver for us.
Very helpful review. Thanks.
My husband has a ‘22 Forester and I recently got a ‘24 Crosstrek, so best of both worlds. The only thing that I’m not a huge fan of is the huge 11 inch display infotainment on the crosstrek. I find the infotainment on the ‘22 Forester to be better with a good number of physical buttons. I feel like the screen is a little too big for the small crosstrek.
@@jkls1980 Yea, we're the same way. We prefer a mix of buttons and screens and the ability to make changes on the fly without having to navigate through the menu. That said, many of the settings are likely "set it and forget it" type things and you also become used to how the system works when you own one.
First time Subaru owner!
My wife and just purchased in 2023 Forester Sport and we’re in love with it!
The cargo capacity in the crosstrek, plus the lack of physical hvac, is what kills it for me. There’s more space in a civic hatch for cargo than in this thing. I can see the case for it as a second car, but for people who tote slobbering things, children OR dogs, you’re one large dog or stroller away from that cargo space being useless. Forester has no such issues.
If they just made the cargo capacity bigger in the crosstrek, I could deal with the finicky touch screen controls for the sake of driving dynamics.
Watching you from Europe bought a Crosstreck for my parents who are retired and most of they rides are between cities. They love it
Subaru executives: Remove physical buttons and put those controls in the touch screen...
Subaru accountants: Good Idea, now we can save like $3 per car...
Subaru engineers: Our touch screens are notorious for failing, it may be a problem...
Subaru Dealers: Just keep saying "needs a software update" until the warranty is expired
I owned a 2020 crosstrek limited for about a year. IT honestly was a great car. The 2.5L had good power and the car rode and handled great. Very good fuel Econ for being AWD. The only reason I don’t still have it is because in 2021, it was worth more used than it was new!….sold it.
My parents have a 2021, great car but they are also thinking about trading it in too for the value and to get more comfortable seats (possibly a new Crosstrek)!
The 2.5 wasn't in the Crosstrek till 2021.
@@danielfair4675 - You are correct….my mistake - it was a 2021. We’ve traded cars so much recently that I lost track! When I bought it, it was between the limited (because leather) or the Sport…..both because of the new 2.5L offering. I ended up going for the limited mostly because the LED headlights. Was a great car, even though we only kept it for like 6mos.
I had a 2020 Outback Premium with all the options available, and it was a very capable, comfortable, and overall nice ride with plenty of creature comforts. Then, my husband got a 2023 Crosstrek Sport, and it turned out to be so much more fun to drive (and far easier to park in every way). It was also peppier off the line at speed, especially in S drive mode, while also having dual X-mode, neither of which the Outback Premium had.
Well, I finally ended up trading in my '20 Outback Premium for the '24 Outback Wilderness, and while only the other XT model Outbacks can touch it in Subaru's crossover/SUV lineup when it comes to acceleration while also having even more creature comforts (including a more comfortable ride) than the Outback Premium, I still find my husband's Crosstrek Sport more fun to drive. It just feels so eager to go on adventures if you'll let it, and even with its smaller engine, it might still be able to go places the OBW simply can't due to its much wider and longer stance and decreased approach, departure, and breakover angles. The Crosstrek really is a great car for the money, especially with the 2.5L engine.
And, frankly, I just never even considered a Forester, because of all of Subaru's cars, it looks the most clunky and dated. It also seems the most likely to tip over on sharp curves and/or in high winds.
You always make the review fun. I look forward to new post.
I think you may have just boosted Forester sales. That is truly a good value.
I’m expecting the 2024 forester (releasing in a few months) will have wireless Apple CarPlay and the updated infotainment. I want wireless CarPlay, but I also prefer more physical controls.
Different models for different needs/wants/expectations. This is almost an apples to oranges comparo, because while there's always some overlap, most of the time folks will buy one or the other based on what they need the car to do for them. A fam of 4 with dog(s) that loves to load up and head for the mountains to car camp, isn't going to find the Crosstrek to be roomy enough for them. And a single person or couple, that lives in the city and loves to go backpacking (way less gear than car campers), isn't going to want/need the larger Forester. This is why a brand has multiple models to choose from, based on various needs of the buyer.
For me, neither the Crosstrek nor Forester met my needs/expectations, so I went with an Outback Onyx XT. No regrets. But my wants/needs were different from what the person looking at a Crosstrek or Forester likely wants/needs. So again, it's all apples and oranges. This should be more about which is better for which kind of owner, than which is better value for money.
I’m with you Tyler. We were going for a Forester but after renting a ‘23 Wilderness for a week this winter we were very impressed with everything except for the tippy handling at sharper corners. And since we never go off-road (like most Subaru owners) we went with the much better handling Impreza RS. The rear seat space is much improved over my ‘02 WRX wagon, its chassis is miles stiffer and offers gobs of space with the rear seats down.
I have a 18 Crosstrek and my wife uses it for local grocery getter type stuff and the occasional road trip (12 to 14 hour drive). My car is a 14 Outback which is my Daily Driver and is also used for moving things the Crosstrek can’t take. I am thinking about a new Outback or Forrester, but I feel partial to the outback since the outback is wider where the Forrester is more tall.
I waited to drive a Forester for years when I finally got to test drive one it was like driving a meat wagon. It was clunky and too big. They redesigned it bigger than it really needed to be. The Crosstrek is way easier to maneuver and a lot more fun to drive and easier to control.
The Crosstrek is slightly better fuel is why it’s the better choice compared to the forester which is few hundred pounds heavier.
For someone who wants a hatchback with enough room for 2 people on getaways and decent fuel efficiency, I’m happy with my Limited Crosstrek!
RIP the Manual Crosstrek. If they brought it back with the engine from the sport I would give my WRX back in a heartbeat.
A Crosstrek WRX is one of the few cars that I'd put a deposit down on instantly.
@@Realistick I would be right there with you! WRX Wilderness when?
I understand what your point is with this video. The crosstrek for me is better because I like the size and style more than the forester. It’s still just as comfortable as the forester. I don’t like the square style of the forester
Personally, I prefer the looks of the 2018-23 Crosstrek more than the 2024 and think it was a better overall value. I bought a '23 Crosstrek Limited 2.5L brand new in January for $30k. The older 8" touchscreen with physical buttons and knobs for HVAC, lane departure warning, lane keep assist, X-Mode, auto start-stop, traction control, etc. are easier to use than the 11" touchscreen that comes in the '24 Crosstrek.
I bought a 22 Crosstrek as I live in snow country and need to get through a foot of snow sometimes. Love the car, had zero issues through a brutal Sierra winter, and never got stuck. I traded in my 04 WRX, I used to get stuck in that and I got sick of shoveling it out.
I'm considering the Forester for sure. I wish they would sell the hybrid in the U.S. nothing against the Crosstrek but it's not right for me.
My wife doesn’t like the sunroof that’s offered with the ‘24 Crosstrek onyx (sport in America), so we looked at the convenience (base) 24 Outback. They are the same price in Canada. Yeah the base outback comes with a lot but the Onyx has so much more, again same price as base outback. Ultimately, my wife is gonna have to get used to the sunroof. We also have a 2020 base forester; love the thing!
I got the Limited Crosstrek.
It actually did come with navigation, but I just use Android Auto
So far, I LOVE the car.
How is the touch screen? are you able to control things like AC/Heat with actual knobs?
isn't the screen laggy sometimes
I've been saying for years that the forester premium is the king of bang for your buck; however, I'm driving around a 21 crosstrek sport for a reason.
I bet that the plan is to raise prices with the upcoming Forester.
I have a ‘24 Crosstrek Limited in Sun Blaze on factory order. Forester made more sense, but my heart went to the Crosstrek. I plan on throwing a set of Falken Wildpeak Trail tires on the Crosstrek Limited as soon as I pick it up.
I’m the same way. Forester makes more sense. Price of a premium forester is comparable to a crosstrek sport. The forester premium is also bigger, comes with moon roof and overall better bang for buck. Although, I’m still leaning towards the crosstrek… I don’t know why, but I keep gravitating towards it.
@@jessezelaya2195 I ended up getting the Crosstrek Wilderness (CW) back in September, and to be honest, I really wish I got the Forester Wilderness. My CW was built Friday 9/8, and really feels like a Friday car with how many rattles and minor defects it has. Adding on to that, my terrible dealership experiences with service and warranty issues really took the excitement and joy out of this car.
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We own a 22 Forester Sport and while it is great, I find the ride bouncy and the side-by-side cupholders awkward. To save a few bucks we are going with a Crosstrek instead of another Forester. Smaller, more fun, functional and smooth. We also own a 19 Impreza we love. Our 19 Outback was too low in head height snd bouncy rolly but very refined and quiet. All are great!!!
Always look forward to new videos from your channel. Corn gang! 🌽
I recently bought a 2024 Crosstrek Limited and love it!
I had a Toyota Highlander. I wanted a smaller vehicle, and the Crosstrek works for me.
Having any issues with no rear seat ventilation ? It's almost a deal breaker for me and has me leaning toward the Forester
I need help!
Im not sure which one should i choose
I like them both but i have that the forester interior looks older than the new crosstrek.
But i prefer the size and capacity of the forester
I like how the crosstrek drive feels. Really soft.
But i also like the extra space of the forester
you will never add space in crosstrek. thats it. You need space- Forester is the one for you- or maybe Outback. Its more spacious- relative volume - but in terms of passenger comfort its still Forester! cheers (I drive a Forester My23 Hybrid everyday!)
Oh wow, shoutout from Bloomington!
I definitely prefer the styling/smaller size of the Crosstrek. Unfortunately, they did not make the 2.5L standard on the Crosstrek, and the value equation is not that great when you have to spend 30k to get the 2.5L. I still would probably get the Crosstrek, because I dont really need the space and it is smaller and more maneuverable. Toyota, Honda and Mazda have stepped up their games though, and made safety and driver assistance suites comparable to eyesight standard. The CX- and hybrid Corolla Cross are strong competitors. HRV is nice also, but desperately needs an optional engine.
I prefer the hybrid Corolla Cross due to its mpg over the Crosstrek (which I own), but the handling and interior materials were mediocre in the Toyota. Will likely get the Forester due to greater space and sun roof. I kinda like the boxiness of it too. I don't know why. It's kinda boring, though the goofy looking Sport trim spices it up a little.
I had crosstrek and forester and there is not really a comparison. You get a lot more car with Forester and generally more versatile platform.
Forester all the way. Better to have space and not use it than to need space and not have it
Absolutely not. A bigger car is just heavy and bulkier and less pleasant to drive. If you don't need the extra space smaller car every day hands down
@@liv0003Yes, you can always rent more space the few times you really need it.
@@philricci2012 agree 👍
let’s all just drive the biggest cars ever then
should i give my 18 years old daughter who is 5 feet tall a SUBARU ASCENT?
Love your reviews,and look forward to them.
Had a 2022 Forester sport but totaled. So i ordered a 2024 crosstrek limit , which is coming in Oct. The reason why I dont buy a forestet thats because they dont change the design for the forester, but they changed for crosstrek. No one wants to pay the same for the old designed vehicle.
Now you can order 2025 Forester :)
Forester for me. My electric guitar case won’t go into the Crosstrek’s trunk unless a seat is folded down.
I'll never understand how the Crosstrek is Subaru's highest selling model, with the least amount of available options.
Every other model has more options, no?
The WRX, the Outback, the Forester, all have more options available, right?
If they offered a turbo manual crosstrek I'd buy one tomorrow.
As it is, I'm still gonna buy one, but I'm in no rush. Next year will be fine.
I have a 22 FW and love it, it really just makes so much more sense than the Crosstrek does... even having no kids, rarely having passengers, not hauling pets etc... I tend to use my cargo space consistently. Wireless carplay is easily addressed via an adapter and is fairly reliable. I'd traded a 22 Legacy XT Limited to get back into the smaller screen with physical HVAC controls, the 11.6 is still pretty flawed. I have mixed emotions about the seat heat still being swtichs in the Crosstrek, while it's great they're still physical, it seems like a waste of space in the console and dead space on the screen.
Fuel economy, my last 3000 miles has been between 27 and 29.5 tank averages with most of it being in the high 27s to mid 28s which is impressive considering the trim. Actually that 29.5 was with a friend driving it in Florida from Tallahassee to St George Island round trip. His first time driving it and everything. My normal averages are in Central PA/MD areas with hills/mountains
I also have a Forrester. What wireless CarPlay adapter are you using? Thanks.
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Trying to! Thank you
crosstrek sport owner. i will upgrade to the wilderness next year when they work out all the kinks.
My wife always thought the Crosstrek was “cute”and she could see it as a nice commuter, but the Forester is so much more practical. I showed her the practical difference, but it didn’t change her mind. Lol
Surprisingly she wants a 2024 Forester for her next car. (Hopefully updated and redesigned)
Imagine that!
🤯🤯🤯
My 2015 Fozzy XT is quicker than my local law allows. The occasional lapse of good judgement is very fun and puts a smile on my face.
wtf where you live? lol
Forester for interior materials and the Crosstrek for size.
Which would you choose…a 2017 Forrester Limited w/ 80,000miles (in good condition) or a 2022 CPO Kia Soul w/30,000 miles? Similar in price.
I don’t know how you are able to sit comfortably in the crosstrek, especially with the eyesight. I’m the same height as you and I felt like it was way too small which is why I think I’m gonna opt for the forester.
I guess I daily drive a much smaller vehicle so I am used to it! Different body types change that too.
Got the 2023 OBW a little over a month ago. Great car and plenty of power.
What about throwing the new Impreza in the mix. If someone doesn’t need ground clearance
I"m torn between THIS and the OUTBACK Wilderness and a CX-50 (mazda)...which I REALLY like--- but as you said- even though some of the others might be BETTER in many ways-- this one looks so much FUN- and i've had small cars (like my mercury Capri) and LOVED that little thing- so much more Fun to drive!! ANd there are other perks too... just wish it were POWERED a bit better.. I mostly won't be "hauling" anyhing or anyone but ME- except for the rare passenger beside me-- and I couldn't care less about the TECH crap-- in fact I DON"T like that huge screen sticking up there... that I mostly won't mess with ever anyway...
I really dislike the fuel economy of the Outback Wilderness/Ascent's 2.4L Turbo engine. When I had my Ascent the actual milage I got was about 15-18mpg on near 50/50 city/hwy driving. Dealership said lots of customers reported similar fuel economies. Love my Impreza though
@@alexkleine9737 Well, that lets them out for ME.. I don't so much mind the mileage, but I like to at least feel confident in whatever it is I'm driving- and I don't in these.
Drove both and the forester felt like a box van, the crosstrek nimble and fun. Big difference. I got a 2024 crosstrek.
How do you like the touch screen on the crosstek? I’m terrified it will totally fail me one day.
@@kokoschultz - I really like it. No concerns there. You really need to test drive one. It’s much refined over the 2023 and prior. This is my third crosstrek. I give them to my kids after each couple years.
When does 2024 Forester arrive? Hopefully they will update the outdated tech and goofy exterior. I totally agree about physical controls for HVAC and other controls. Who wants to dig through infotainment screens to change the temperature or turn on defrost?
No word yet, they will probably redesign it though I can't say with certainty as they did postpone the Crosstrek and Impreza! If they do redesign it, I'd expect it to be announced late summer (just my personal speculation)
The Forester has been available with a Turbo in Australia, Japan and various other markets for a few years now.
There's physical buttons to raise and lower the temperature and turn on the front or rear defrosters.
We have a Outback Wilderness. We also love the Crosstrek Wilderness.
The CrossTrex isn’t as safe in a side impact as the Forester.
We Love both our Forester Touring and our Outback.
Next year we will be selling our Outback (currently only 28K miles) and our 11 Ranger XLT super cab 4WD (36K miles ) so we’ll be able to pay cash for a new Tacoma Limited 4WD Hybrid.
There’s a reason why the Crosstrek is the best selling vehicle for Subaru
We bought a 2024 Crosstrek Limited and traded in our 2015 Forester. We enjoy the style, features and size of the Crosstrek. The Crosstrek is the hottest Subaru on the block. Forester is good but looks old fashioned. Time to move on with a better Subaru.
I was considering trading my low milage 2018 Crosstrek Limited for a 2024 Limited because of the high current value of that 2018 vehicle. Hesitant however since this will be the first model year of 2024 revised Crosstrek and first ones ever made in Indiana. In addition I have over another year left on an extended warranty which has a lot of value itself. Any thoughts on waiting a model year to fix any concerns with the new 2024 plus first time Indiana production even if the peak value of used cars may start dropping?
I’d say go for it, it is technically a new model at a new plant (for the model) so there is a slight chance to run into a teething problem but it’s the same platform with the same powertrain and tech that’s been used for a few years already. Im sure some people may run into a few quirks but I personally wouldn’t be at all afraid to buy it.
Keep it for as long as possible. You lose physical controls and have already taken the worst of any depreciation.
"Big egg of space" 😂
I love your videos…. You are going to have a Great career in broadcasting…👍
Forester and Ascent front ends not very good looking
For me the Crosstrek is no mans land. If i don't need a Forester I might as well get an Impreza.
My wife has a 2016 crosstreck and it’s a fun car I just purchased a 2023 limited forester it’s a great suv love both!
Forester 2.0 lts or crosstrek 2.0lts?
Subaru Crosstrek overpriced for Sure. CX-5 much better with loaded features for the same price.
surely the current forester is outdated where is the crosstrek have done make up on top. I would wait for next gen forester 2024 and yes I have 2020 forester :)
This must be an review on US models. The Canadian specs are very different. I wish, in the reviews people informed the viewers where they are from in the beginning.
I do say Bloomington, Indiana in this one but it is easy to miss, especially if someone doesn’t catch the big difference in price. I’ll try to put some text in there moving forward when applicable.
Plus the Crosstrek, for 2024, in Base and Premium trims, is built in Japan. Something to not overlook.
I believe all Foresters are also built in Japan!
@@Realistick Oh yeah (after Google search). I just assumed they weren't. Nevermind.
😂🤙
Pros of crosstrek lower center of gravity, less drag, better corner capability.
That's all well and fine, but I like the Crosstrek and don't like a Forester.
Cars aren’t always about what’s most logical!
Is the Crosstrek roomy enough for tall people? 6'5". I can't find much on that. I currently drive a golf and find that's enough room. The specs make it look like there should be enough head and legroom. My wife's matrix, on the other hand, is way too tight.
he said it in the video. he is 6'3 and fits just fine
Forrester interior looks like it belongs in the 2010s
Yawn.
I’d kill for one if it looked like the late 60’s, early 70’s. 😉
I’m so glad that our Forester has the saddle Brown interior.
We’re SOOO tired of the 34 year old Gloomy Gray and Boring Black interior colors that all automobile manufacturers think everyone loves.
Depressed people buy depressing stuff to reflect where they are mentally.
Black hides stains, unlike brown or gray. If you have kids or use your Subaru for outdoorsy stuff, you'll appreciate it. It's hilarious you think a practical interior color means someone is depressed
@@kate10662 I’m a retired Psychologist.
When there’s civil unrest, wars and rumors of wars, unstable economies, etc people choose darker, drab, depressing colors.
When the world around you seems to be at peace, there’s civil rest, stable economies, etc people naturally choose bright cheerful colors.
Look around you and the world today.
Over 50% of houses are gray with white trim. Interior motif colors are usually drab, closed in colors.
There are more vehicles on the road today that are silver, gray, charcoal gray and black with Gray or Black interior colors.
Most people wear darker shades of clothing.
Human behavior is strange to say the least.
Our custom built house is cheerful yellow with white trim. Our interior motif is bright, open and inviting.
Our vehicles interior colors are Ivory in my wife’s Outback. Of course you know that the interior of my Forester is Brown. I would have preferred the Ivory interior but it isn’t available on the Forester.
Our 12 year old 4WD pickup (we bought it used for work around our property) is Silver. The interior was gray and black.
I had the pickup 2 toned in factory Silver with Red metallic. It had it reupholstered in Red with black stitching and trim.
To each his own I suppose.
We simply choose to surround ourselves with happy cheerful colors and people.
Enjoy your day !
Do Subaru owners change the CVT fluid like other CVTs? I hear it’s sealed and not recommended. I want a Crosstrek but idk what to do about maintenance.
I believe the manual now recommends fluid changes and any Subaru mechanic will do them for you!
@@RealistickThank you for replying. This is probably my next vehicle and I want to keep it a long time.
Yes, I have it done about every 50K miles.
Forester looks ugly but I need the space...
I think the newer Foresters are a tad bloated and hideous looking. I would probably opt for a Crosstrek. I figure if you can fit into one at 6"3, I should be able to drive one at 6"5.
Ya right! I am 5'4" and I feel like the Crosstrek is a tight fit. I have a 2020 premium and I put a deposit down on a 2023 forester wilderness, will be here July 23rd. Can't wait for a comfier spacious vehicle. Good luck fitting in the Crosstrek!
Forester wins. Simply for not having the big, annoying, stupid touchscreen.
For me the Crosstrek all the way, but actually now that you mention it, my folks were just about to buy a Forester, right before they saw the new Crosstrek... now they can't make up their minds, like at all!
Which one did they chose?
@@cyndieK1 they went with the Forester! they prefered the more traditional cabin layout of the Forester vs. that huge, sometimes slow screen in the new Crosstrek. Plus more space.
YOU need an enema dude-- you won't SCRAPE the bottom of the CROSS TREK nearly as much as the forester--- due to the shorter wheelbase and BETTER breakover angles.. THINK before you speak.. :) (not be negative or criticising-- just pointing out the ObVIOUS point missed.
Approach and breakover angles are better in the Forester (wheelbase is the same).
I have a forester (family of four, camping, tortoise transport, ect.), a coworker has rhe crosstrek. The Forester IS bigger, like, 20% across the board, but the one trip I was in the Crosstrek on, I was impressed by the space inside the cabin and trunk. If I didn't have two car seats and a need to tow a trailer, the crosstrek might be the better choice.
Nice comparison. I two was surprised to learn the Crosstrek can toe more than the Forester!
Crosstrek weighs less and, with the same engine, tows more.
That's the regular trims. Only the Wilderness edition tows 3,500, which is impressive for the size of the vehicle. I have the Ascent because it's greater capability of 5,000 pounds.
Forrester changes in 2024.
It should, I’m kind of worried they will bump the price a bunch, I also can’t say it will be 2024 with certainty (though it is highly likely). They did postpone the Crosstrek so we might see that here too.
@@Realistick That could happen, it will be interesting to see the updates. We have the blue Outback Wilderness, can’t wait to see the Crosstrek Wilderness selling. We got an up close view of it at the New York auto show, pretty cool.
I can't drive these... because I don't vape brah
What's that supposed to mean breh
I may trade in my '15 Crosstrek for a new one crosstrek. 2:34
Cheap crossover buyers? I hope you meant something else! That is very rude!
It don’t send toque to the rear as needed what are you talking about? It’s symmetrical full time awd!! Meaning it’s always on!!! So wether you need the power to the rear or not don’t matter!!! It will send it regardless!!! So it’s actually set up to always send 60% to the front and 40% to the rear!!! It’s not like other systems that are part time awd only….
I never said that it wasn't full time. It doesn't have a traditional center diff, it can constantly adjust and send far more than 40 percent to the rear if it needs to, it just resides around 60:40 under normal circumstances.
One has cam carrier seal issues and direct injection fouling and the other has cam carrier seal issues and direct injection fouling. The answer: Buy a Toyota
My friends 3 year old outbacks transmission just went out and they got hit with a $10k repair bill. Subaru cvts 💩💩💩
Your friend has room temp IQ.
Ouch, thankfully, that hasn't been a problem with the forester or crosstrek for awhile now but the earlier lineartronics definitely burned some folks. I offer my sincere condolences to your friend's warranty and make sure they change the fluid every 40k, these NEED that.
@@Realistick see that's the thing we keep hearing how "it hasn't been a problem for a while now" they have a 2020... They also did they maintenance like they were supposed to. My wife and I literally just bought a new car this month and we actually considered a Subaru and I did tons of research but when I talked to the salesman at the dealership and he told me the cvts last between 80k-110k miles I was like the hell with that and dipped out.
@@----------------------------- personal attacks always discredit your opinion thanks for your comment.
@@BigBootyJudy40ozBounce your friends may just have gotten a bad tranny. It happens. I've got a 2017 Forester with 100,000 miles on it and it runs and feels like new. I'm not exaggerating - I just test-drove a 2024 Crosstrek and was surprised when I got back in our Forester how tight and quiet it still is. No transmission issues at all and it's never been serviced (it's sealed and is generally not owner-serviceable.) The only issues I've had are the control arm bushings wearing out prematurely (which is an easy fix if you're even a little mechanically inclined) and a leak in the AC system. All told, over 6 years of ownership, we've done maybe $800 worth of repairs.