Scientist bewildered by Sadhguru's explanation of the consciousness and the universe
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- adhguru is a guiding beacon of divine wisdom and inspiration for all persons seeking self-realization and an experience of the unbounded nature of life. Today, as the founder of Isha, an organization devoted to humanitarian causes, he lights the path for millions. The term guru, he notes, means “dispeller of darkness, someone who opens the door for you. . . . As a guru, I have no doctrine to teach, no philosophy to impart, no belief to propagate. And that is because the only solution for all the ills that plague humanity is self-transformation. Self-transformation means that nothing of the old remains. It is a dimensional shift in the way you perceive and experience life.”
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That's how two people with entirely different planets try to understand and respect each other's point on one topic.
You seem experienced 😂
@@akshatbhardwaj2165 :So as you, who has intelligence to find such deep point. 😂😂😂
Well, one of them is trying to listen and understand. The other is spewing opinions, and using analogies as proofs. I'll leave it to your imagination which one is which :)
@@RK-nq3fj You are right, it will take lifetimes for some to get even Quantum Physics, forget the trigger points of fundamental science in scientists brain. At least no one needs imagination or proof to understand for whom im talking about.
"Consciousness can manifest in non-physical form" -Sadhguru
Man...those Indians sure can talk. Yes, Sadhguru...I Believe You.
Depth of not knowing finally made the Scientist to receive the Grace of Sadhguru🌷🙏
"Consciousness comes from the voice the (me) or atma or the soul or the living entty witch is separate from the mind!"by the way this "maya" he spoke about is called "Krsna" and the maha Kala he also spoke about is called "Krsna, lord Krsna says time i am, this is real talk
Truly interesting 🙏
What a wonderful conversation! Thank you so much 🙏🏽💖
Competence comes when you care for something… Sadguru
We are looking into creation from 5 senses only. I realized this and now a practicing Hindu and an ex Christian. Sadguru explained it here beautifully. ❤🎉
Pranamam Sadhduru! Ur videos always give me all the answers. I am craving for it's experiential reality now
but I do recall how it's in mother's womb and it's not dark but bright colors in rotating manner with past lives flashing and there is no time dimension so 10 months is like a flash. not only this but even seen my own parents wedding however im not sure even i was alive person or a soul waiting for a womb to born in physical form.
enviable 😊
One point the scientist has backwards; These universes or 'cyclic realities' came about because of conciousness and the idea that a lot of parameters have to be right is an extremely Victorian and pompous idea that we are perfect beings, we are not, it is why you have incarnated to learn and grow compassion and understanding for all, then you repair the cracks in the mirror until it is in one piece and the 112 universes are complete and can manifest in non-physical form etc.
My interpretation of what he was saying was the universe is cyclical because that allows it to explore universes with every potential balance of universal constants, (like the force of gravity), and through infinite trial and error we eventually find universes with suitable proportions for constants that allow for life and consciousness to arise.
I didn't get the sense he was saying we were perfect, just that the universe is perfectly tuned for life, and a cyclical theory provides a sort of explanation.
Máyá and the Creation
What is Máyá? When Parama Puruśa (Cognitive Principle) desires to create something, the Shakti (force) required is known as Máyá. As such, one of the important characteristics of Máyá is its plasticity. It is equally clear that since Máyá is the force behind creation, if the Cognitive Principle had not desired to create anything, Máyá would have had no manifestation.
What is it that made Him create and thus make the manifestation of Máyá possible? The traditionally upheld cause and effect theory cannot answer this question, for the theory works and holds good only in the expressed world (i.e., the universe after it has been created). Thus once the seed and the tree are there as a part of the expressed world, the cause and effect theory recognizes the seed as the cause and the tree as the effect. But why was the seed or the tree originally created is a problem beyond its scope. Thus the cause and effect theory does not go beyond the expressed world. Now action which is beyond cause and effect is Liilá. To differentiate further, action which is governed by the cause and effect theory is known as Krd́a. All His creation is Liilá. Hence the manifestation of Máyá in the expressed world too is His Liilá.
Máyá and Jiivas
Máyá influences the Jiiva in a number of ways. In His creation of the world, it is not the Citi Shakti that works. Instead, when ordered by Him, Máyá is the force which works. Here it is known as Visńu máyá.
When human beings experience His attraction from Antahkarana the feeling that something is to be done is generated in them. This is also done by Máyá and here it is known as Yogamáyá.
Apart from these forms, Mayá works in the Jiiva in two other forms - as Vishva máyá and as Ańumáyá. The fundamental stuff or matter used in His creation is Himself. In this process of creation, the Cognitive Principle crudifies Himself into this expressed world with the use of Viśńumáyá. But the essential element, the fundamental stuff is He. However, the Jiiva does not have the capacity to see Him in this creation. A person sees a pot as a pot, a forest as a forest and so on. This is the work of Vishvamáyá.
The sum of manifested Máyá in the universe is known as Máhámáyá. Now, it is observed that individuals can create the same things in their minds which are expressed outside and are seen in this expressed world. They can create a whole world in their minds, according to their fancy, and can enjoy pain or pleasure from it. Such vicarious living is found especially in persons of advanced age. This is the work of Ańumáyá.
It must never be overlooked however that despite its various forms, it is His Máyá, and that He is the Máyádhiśha. Therefore, if the individual starts a fight against Máyá, he or she cannot succeed. This is amply confirmed by the fact that you cannot effectively indulge in the suppression or repression of a certain Bháva for long, ultimately it overpowers you, because the more you try to suppress it the greater becomes the force with which it rebounds. If crude ideas come into your mind, you are not crude or bad - it is natural for them to come. But mental or psychic suppression or repression of these is not profitable for Sádhakas. Instead the correct and psychological approach to Máyá is to channelize it in the direction of the Absolute. For in this expressed world, you cannot overpower Máyá because she has a much greater power.
The central problem of reconciling the earthly duties of human beings with their progress towards the absolute thus crops up. The answer lies in the fact that this world is a relative truth. Human beings should not become slaves to it but should use it properly. However, as mind is engaged in it while using it, one may tend to crudify both in the mind and hence, in the body. This would hamper movement towards the Absolute which is the subtlest entity. The way out is to bring in the ideation of the Absolute. In other words, you should realize that while living in the expressed crude world, you do not work for the worldly things but for Him and with Him, because He is the essential element, the fundamental stuff out of which this world has been created.
Máyá and the Absolute
On the other hand, those who run away from this material world to escape Máyá only deceive themselves. For with the help of Máyá, they will be led to Him, as Máyá has a close relation with the Absolute. What is this relation?
Máyá has three guńas - operative principles through which it works - viz., Sattvaguńa (sentient principle), Rajoguńa (mutative principle) and Tamoguńa (static principle). They work and lie in an ascending order on the road to the Absolute. The sentient principle (Sattvaguńa) has the capacity to take the sádhaka very near Him (Nirákára Brahma) by making the mind more and more subtle. But there still lies a gap between this point and Nirákára Brahma. This gap is known as Bháva or Bhávaságar. This gap can only be negotiated with the help of devotion. Thus we see that Máyá, channelized properly (in its sentient operating principle) can take the Sádhaka to a point very near Ishvara, from which point the domain of devotion begins. An interesting illustration is afforded by the following story. Three thieves, Mr. Sattvaguńa, Mr. Rajoguńa and Mr. Tamaguńa once waylaid a man with some money in a dark forest. Though all agreed to pocket the money, Mr. Tamoguńa also desired to murder the man. The other two, however, would not agree to this. Mr. Rajoguńa declared that the man be left alone to fend for himself in the dark. Mr. Sattvaguńa was more charitable. He led the unfortunate man all the way to the outskirts of the city. But after a point on the road he bade farewell and would not go into the lighted street for fear of being caught by the police. Therefore we arrive at the paradox that Mukti (i.e. freedom from the bondage of Máyá) can be achieved not by a fight against Máyá, but rather through its help.
Different kinds of Sádhakas inhabit this world. Some ardently desire Mukti, while others do not. The latter base their choice on the reasoning that by becoming one with Iishvara, the Sádhaka loses the pleasure of being next to Him and harbouring Him as oneʼs sole bháva in work, service and sacrifice. Little do they know that this very ideation of the Cosmic world leads them to Mukti, for their minds have Him as their object.
The best and highest Sádhaka and Bhakta, however, surrenders the decision on this question to Ishvara. The ideation that he or she embraces is: “I am at your disposal. It is up to you to plan what you like for me”. Theirs is the wisdom to foresee that complete surrender alone, which is the essence of the highest Bhakti, will enable them to sail the Bhávasagar unto His feet.
Shrii Shrii A'anandamurti ( Mystic and Tantric Guru)
1 April 1968 DMC, Delhi
Source: Máyá and Mokśa
Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19
Amazing talk mind blowing 😊😊😊😊
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Jai SadhGuruJi
Way beyond
The linga is the phallus of rudra as written in the puranas.
Try to conceive the iconic stature of the thing
And what is Kashi?
put black outlines on your subtitles bro
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Wow 🤗🤗🤗🕉🕉🕉🕉 science wants to be looked Up to in Awe 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮...the
Science delusion meditation led me to metapjysical state💭💭✨️✨️✨️🕉
Witty wise and intelligent
You are too high sadhguru and at the same time u ate too deep guru has caught the to ends of existing floor of life hats off guru jee
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So...the expression of the centres...108 +4 outside...
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Soul, Subtle body, causal body … (Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)
Pure Awareness (Soul) requires existence of 2 items. One is inert energy that is obtained from digestion of food (Annat Purashah- Veda). Second is nervous system, which alone can convert this inert energy into awareness on functioning. So, awareness is dependent on these two items but God is independent & does not depend on any other item.
If food is not taken for longer time, first we become weak and latter on even loose consciousness (awareness) also. When food is taken, it oxidizes, which is an exothermic reaction and releases heat. As such heat energy is also inert energy only. I mean, it is not awareness. Then how come awareness is arising after taking food in human beings? A part of heat energy is only converting to awareness in nervous system. This awareness is the soul or atman.
A human being consists of 3 bodies, gross (physical) body, subtle body (jeeva) and soul (atman or pure awareness or causal body). The combination of subtle body and soul is called Jeevatman. This soul pervades all over the remaining two bodies (physical body & subtle body).
Subtle body or mind is a bundle of qualities or gunas or Samskaras. Basically any quality is a mixture of 3 basic qualities. Those 3 basic qualities are sattvam, rajas and Tamas. Any quality (anger, patience, etc.) is a mixture of these 3 basic qualities. These qualities are similar to waves and awareness is similar to water. Without water, you cannot have waves and so also, without awareness, qualities do not exist.
Qualities are exhibited only if awareness exists. Ex: Coma patient is not exhibiting any qualities. He is having life energy but not awareness. A human being in awakened state exhibits qualities. He has both life energy and awareness.
At the time of death, this jeevatman leaves the physical body and enters energetic body for going to upper worlds.
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Life is Eternal,
our Counsciousness,
is a Circuit, mirrored in Rainbow,
(Instinct/Red/1, - Memory/Indigo/6.)
The Masculine Princip and Feminine Princip,
is the most Basic, in organism-structure of Living Beings.
There is Seven (7) Levels of Life-Unit's, Organism-forms. (Developing-Circuits)
the Six Colors in rainbow, present Develoing-Zones.
We change Sexe, in Next Developing-Circuit.
So, the 42 Developing-Zones, as Female,
and 42 Developing-Zones as Male,
makes a Full or Grand Cosmic Developing-Circuit,
of 84 = 2 x 6 x 7.
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which branch of science?
It will definitely involve physics, metaphysics, chemistry , psychology etc.
Bhai kuch pakar keh nehe paya
Knowledge of ancient indian are like that but now ....😢
You said consciousness is intentless. If there was no intent then nothing would happen and we would still be just a field of consciousness. Intent makes the universe happen. I intended to say that to you.
That statement is a contradiction, the intent must come to something or someone, but that something or someone arose from something or nothing, and that is consciousness, and it did not intent for something or the other to happen or occur, it just created a possibility, that possibility gives rise to individual intentions, and all the intentions are created from limited cycles where you want something and manifest it get satisfied with it and drop it, because intension works like that....you create an intent because of a longing to achieve something, be something, but that which already knows everything the beginning, middle, and the end does not have an intent because it already knows what is the result already, it can just create a possibility and intention is created by individual possibilities which then manifests itself or at least it tries to, but after the intention is manifested or satisfied, it doesn't need to exist it has to cease to exist because it exhausted itself, if it does not exist what created it will be there always, so consciousness which created it will be there without having any intent because it is the creator, there is no other way to be...
Why doesn’t it at least acknowledge who the scientist is ?
In the closing titles, it says:
"Facilitator Prof. Bala Subramaniam, Harvard Medical School
Host: Sadhguru centre for a conscious planet at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical centre, Boston
Ask sadh a specific question and he takes 1hr. Ask him a generic question and he will take 1 hr to answer. Finally you'll never actually get an answer.
must have got him a job as a WEF adviser.
All bla bla bla
Trying to explain reality to a materialist is a waste of weed.
Stop this nonsense, stop looking existence through science. Science is too small to explain what is happening in yours life (cross check with your own life experiences) it shows life is enormous, just try to live & embrace it.dont try to measure & make meanings.
Much talk and nothing said, Sadhguru speaks like a weather reporter or a storyteller for small children, in essence he has not answered any question, the bottom line is whether consciousness is a consequence of something or all existence is a consequence of consciousness, what is the essence of consciousness, can it be understood at all or does it remain an eternal mystery, is it something beyond energy, is it something separate from existence??? Sadhguru acts as if he knows everything and in fact he knows nothing, just like the rest of us who are aware that existence is an eternal secret that is impossible to unravel.
How many hours of Meditation and Shambhavi have you experienced? Have you attended any of his courses? Before you open your mouth and even think of commenting on something profound like a Multiverse and comment on a realized individual like Sadhguru, get a reality check on yourself.
U didn't listen properly - He clearly illustrated that we are like soap bubbles, and we have simply captured the air around us.
A bigger bubble captures more of it. A careful balanced bubble with less soap will float and dance through air. But a bubble with more soap will be heavy, capture less, and will sink below.
Meaning the same consciousness flows through us, and we need to be less materialistic (and some other egoistic things) to let us capture more if that essence and flow more through us, and us through it.
Also, thus was not the only essence or question asked by...the questioner asks several questions and hence there are several answers.
Finally, a guru doesn't tell u things, they simply guide and to let u experience it ur own way... its a reacher who "teaches" or tells u things, as per what books prescribe.
That's not your fault. It's like hearing about explaining a computer program to someone who does not have the basic computer program.
1. What you are addressing has not addressed any of you personally and you should not address it personally.
2. There is anger and bitterness in your speech that speaks of your level of consciousness.
3. By That to which you address is neither,, I ,,nor ,,Who,, it is simply pure divine consciousness, that which is evident that you are far from any awakening, please continue to sleep. Greetings to all sleepers.
Don't talk if you never experienced something beyond, do you understand, you are big liar if talk only
Sadhguru play with weak minds
Einstein discovered gravity. But it was already there in the globe. Consciousness of Einstein helped him to discover gravity.
.Scientific men (logical) can dazzle with brilliance...or baffle you with B.S. 🥱🤔🤔