Dewalt Impact Driver head to head: 12V vs 20V
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- In this Dewalt Impact Driver head to head Brad compares the 12V Extreme vs the 20V. Check out the 12V on Amazon USA: amzn.to/3jOep0Z Amazon Canada: amzn.to/374AfIm
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I have whole XR set and 12v xtreme set and the 12v is indispensible when working overhead and on ladders. You wouldnt think the extra weight would be noticable but when your arm is extended for hours it makes a big difference.
Recently had a lot of my tools stolen and I replaced my 887/885 combo with 840/850 combo + 12v impact/drill kit (the thieves missed my 850 and my 787 drill thank god so still have those) and this is by far my favorite setup I have ran at work yet. Covers the widest amount of use cases with the impacts I have, 850 for when the tool needs to fit a small space lengthwise or I need a bit more torque on the high end for some small lags, 840 for when it needs to fit between a space and needs less width, then the 12v set for ladders and my roof backpack. They’re amazing for smaller jobs on roofs (as in my case installing 10-50ft. Telescoping poles on roofs then doing cable runs) as they fit incredibly well into a backpack without stabbing your back as you climb the ladder.your back will seriously thank you for the reduced weight it’s no joke. And they take like half as much space up in a bag! Leaving more space to bring a tool kit with more versatility
I mainly do mechanical work and visit junkyards often. The 12v impact driver and wrench have never let me down and is a breeze to carry when walking around a boneyard finding parts!
Just bought the 12v extreme. Love it. Plenty of power, light, compact, perfect for what I do every day!
As a small engine technician in the winters I actually find myself going for the 12v more often than not for assembly/disassembly I like that it's weaker than the 20v I'm not as worried about over torquing or snapping off small fasteners and it's still a lot faster than hand wrenching everything
That’s a very good point. I would love if they came out with an option to actually dial in how much tourque you wanted to use.
So your demonstration with the 20V illustrated my consideration of the 12V driver (impact or screwdriver). You started to twist the screw and immediately the speed of the 20V kicked the driver bit out of the screw. Both my thumbs have gouges from the driver bit after it slipped out of the screw (use Robertson screws). My 20v and 18v impacts only have one speed range. Maybe a multi range tool is a good option. Having said that I love 12v tools. I've never not been able to drive a 3" into framing wood. takes a modest amount more time but to keep the bit in the screw head is worth it.
Iv used that 12 volt extreme for 4 years everyday for work, HVAC work and now just recently a job for electrical panel work. never used the settings on the top until now for not stripping screws into the copper strips. settings still work fine after extreme HVAC work in wet and hot conditions after 4 years non stop. O and it has the best light iv ever seen on a drill, lights up dark crawl spaces. I also use Milwaukee and 20v dewalts all the time for other things at work. but this 12 volt never leaves my go bag.
The 885 and 887 are my go to impact drivers. I use the 887 at work daily and the 885 at home. Strong durable drivers that can take a beating on the job or DIY. Great video brother.
thanks man! they sure can take a beating! i've dropped mine so many times from a ladder and no problems yet. thanks for watching
Ya know, the 20v 885, 887 are not much heavier larger, or more ergonomic than the 12v tools. In fact, the 12V Xtreme tools have a weird bump that hits The web between my thumb and forefinger. It's probably a good thing on normal hands, but mine are crippled and bent from arthritis.
I do like that the 12v are lighter and easier for me to twist around and fit in tight spots, but TBH, there is no need to get the 12v if you are invested in the 20v Dewalt tools. And I suspect upgraded replacements are for the 885 & 887 will be out within the next year.
@@hammerandhome left my 887 on the roof of my shed I finished building at the end of fall 2019. Didn't find it until spring 2020 when I went up on the shed to blow all the leaves off. Found the driver with battery still in, picked it up and it still had 2 bars charge and worked perfect. Couldn't believe it. Months in the elements with battery still in and didn't miss a beat.
Thanks for the video! Good information! I am exclusively DeWalt. It is easier for me to have one charger type that charges all their batteries. Most of my tools are the 20v platform with a handful on the 60vflex, but a contractor friend convinced me to invest in the 12v drill and driver saying they were small and really excelled at cabinet installs. Without doing my homework, I ordered a set in with 2AH batteries and one 6ah battery so I would have a charged back up. While I can say that I am happy with the 12v drill and impact driver, I have done the size comparison with 20v and 12v tools side by side. The 12v are not any smaller by any useful amount. In fact, the atomic compact 20v impact is smaller than the 12v impact. So…..I have dedicated the 12v tools to my Klein backpack where I have my electrical kit and they are now part of that kit. For anything electrical needing a drill or impact, they will do a fantastic job. My 20v tools are for everything else.
I use the lvl 1 on the 20v for doing stuff where I don’t want to overdrive. If it isn’t quite enough, I’ll bump to 2. Drywall or assembly of Ikea stuff with plastic thread inserts.
As a casual noob into home remodeling, the 12v is the way to go for me, I could see myself messing up hugely with 20v from it's sheer powah!
Have you ever used a Milwaukee M12.? It's the size and weight of the DeWalt 12v with the power of the DeWalt 20v. It does almost every job you need it to.
@@dangrimes5078that’s not true. The dewalt 12v line actually outbeats Milwaukee in its 12v line.
@@anthonynery9562 Sir, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own made up words.
Both of them are great!!!! DCF888 w/ Bluetooth and Electronic Speed Switch selector, and DCF887 is what I use for Driving Torx Deck Screws, Fasten Master Timberlok, and Spax Powerlag screws (NO Pre-drilling) and driving some 1/2" by 4" Lag Bolt (w/ Pre-Drilled Holes) mostly for Heavy Carpentry works, but for Finer and Light carpentry works and especially driving Philips screws DCF885 and DCF801 is what I use. The DCF801 replaces my old Skil 20V Power core Brushed Impact Driver. My DCF888, 887 and 885 are made in USA versions especially 887 comes with a kit along with DCF996 Hammer Drill. For a backup impact driver I have a Craftsman Brushless 3 speed Impact Driver kit (model # CMCF820D2) as a contractor DeWalt and Craftsman is what I use in the jobsite and also at home when it comes to impact driver. Just like my other friends I'm not loyal to any Brand. My circular saw are Bosch CSW41 Worm Drive and Makita 5377MG. For miter saw I have a DeWalt compound miter saw 10" (Non-Sliding) and I got Hitachi 12" Sliding Miter Saw they're all corded. For Hammer Drill and Rotary hammer drill I got Bosch for that corded as well. Even framing nailer I still uses Pneumatic Air Framing Nailer Makita and Hitachi.
DeWalt dcf801 is awesome. It's very small and lightweight even with 5Ah battery pack it's still lightweight. And it is gentle and well balanced. Not too weak and not too powerful it's well balanced just like the dcf885 20V. Either one of them is what I use for Fine and Precise carpentry works and metal works.
So…. As a builder I run 3 framing crews. 3 trucks each truck has different brand tools . One is all dewalt, Milwaukee and makita. 34 years experience. When you say the 887 is for framing, not really. It works for screws, decking, sheathing..etc. Not good for lags, Flatloks, timberloks, etc , for that you need the 894 or 899.
The 12v is great for installing windows.,doors, sliders, trim work with 2 1/4 trim head ss screws, etc.
As this drivers are all in modes if money isn't a problem go for the bigger one the day you need that performance it will be right there
I have the 12v driver and drill and very happy with the performance for the size and weight. I use the impact driver for removing screws in access panels on commercial aircraft it works a treat especially when removing tank panels over head for hours.
sounds like if your working over head a lot weight is a big issue, I love the lightness and power that these new 12v tools have, ill be comparing the milwaukee 12v fuel to this guy soon. thanks for watching
So you left this comment at least a year ago can I get an update about how you feel about the 12v
@@nickladucer7178 Hey I'm still happy with it and used it almost every day without any dramas. The batteries still charge fast and hold good charge.
I have 4 12v impacts (3 drivers, one wrench) and 5 20v impact drivers, I find myself using the 12v units far more than the 20v numbers because of the weight difference. I also have both the Atomic one handed saw and the 12v xtreme one handed saw and there is little to no weight savings there
thats a nice collection! I do like the lightness of the 12v tools as well
@@hammerandhome LOL, that's not including the 20v 1/2 impact wrench, the 20v atomic circular saw, the gyroscopic screwdrivers thaty I love and use constantly and all the other bits i use.
Wow what a difference
I actually use the DeWalt 12v screw gun more than the 12v impact 🤷🏻♂️.... If you haven't used the screw gun check it out.
thanks bud will do!
I've got one, it's great for little screws that the impact is just too powerful to drive
@@rch5991 you bring up real issues with Milwaukee. They make great tools there’s no doubt about it but need to go address some things. I highly recommend the Dewalt 12v extreme series.
@@rch5991 that’s awesome, you won’t be disappointed with your purchase 👊🏼
Got one I need the impact attachment
thanks
Will the 12 volt be good for little stuff around the house
12v tools are so underrated ! I prefer 12v anything for fasteners ….HOWEVER ! You can stack the 5ah on those 12v tools and cruise all day with some power.
Only thing is the batteries go dead faster on the DeWALT platform vs Bosch for sure. Bosch has better batteries and more efficient motors both DeWALT and Bosch make the best 12v tools.
Problem is boschs are very very weak. Many channels have proven this
Great video!! 😃 Are the batteries interchangeable?
unfortunately not,
They are supposed to have a new version of the 12v in 3/8 capable of 400ft lb on sale at lowes here soon. I am gonna get that one
Nice, let me know what you think
@@hammerandhome they tested it, its no where near the torque claim of 400.
For cabinetry, I think the Dewalt Xtreme screw driver is a better option. (Dcf601)
It’s 150 rpms faster than the impact driver on screw mode, and it’s clutched. The impact driver on screw mode is almost as powerful as the screw driver in Max setting.
I got both 12v tools.
good info, Thanks! i'll have to check the screwdriver out
DCF601 is truely a unique tool. I have nine drills in total including Makita, Bosch and Festool. The CXS and DCF601 are pure joy to use. 👍
5:58 And that's why more power and speed aren't always a good thing.
That’s how I drove a Phillips head into my finger 😂
Did Dewalt ever fixed the issue with the wobble in the chuck of the 887?
Nope
If you do small engine repair go with the 12 volt, that 20 is easy to strip stuff.
good advice
Nice video! The 12v is smaller and will be able to get in tighter places but the 20v (887) is still pretty light with a 2ah battery and can do a wider range of tasks with the 3 speeds. I got my 887 in a 6 tool kit otherwise I would have bought the 12v drill and driver.
Thanks Brad, love my 887, no need for anything smar smaller😊
I think you made the right choice. the 887 is a great driver !
You say framing, but who frames with screws? Do you mean decks?
yeah I mean both, I use a lot of lag bolts for framing, (lvl) but also for sub floors, temp stuff, but when im fully framing it's definitely nails
Good comparison.
thank you
Can you use the same charger for both batteries?
Yes, the charger will charge both 20v and 12v batteries.
The 12v impact is better than all of Dewalt s 20v mid range impacts.
Has speed selection, more IPM & RPMs.
My dcf840 20v will smoke that 12v
Great Video. My question is: Can I use an 18v 5ah battery on a 12v circular saw?
Unfortunately no, 12 v is only for the 12v tools. The 20v and flex volt all work on 20vtools. And the flex volt work with flex volt tools as well.
The 20 volt is more powerful. There. You’re welcome. 5:18
Everyone should know that 12 Volt is for specific trafes work not for power. However, the power in the 12 makes more sense than the atomic depending on what you're doing
That’s a great point that I feel gets overlooked. I had an Atomic impact driver first and I wasn’t too impressed with it. I tried the 12v and it was just as powerful as the 20v and did every task that I needed to complete in a smaller footprint. I have driven torx fasteners and timber locks with the 12v and it does it no problem. Sure, it may take a few seconds longer but for a homeowner/DIY person like me that’s not a huge deal. The largest problem I have with 12v tools is the runtime. It’s very short.
лучше сразу брать 20 вольтовую серию на все инструменты... но если точно не планируется больше, 12 вольт так же круто !
u got the wrong 12v, get the dcf901 or 903
Have used the 887. They all burned up. Definitely had to go a different route
Hmmmmm
The 787 doesnt seem to have that problem. u should try that
Have you looked at the Hilti tools?
many times, I own some, very nice tools
You'll have to get the 5ah 12v battery and compare. It's a lot more powerful.
Both look new He must have an identical one he uses everyday.
yup, i have a couple 887 that I use every day, this is my back up.
Look at all the clearly used tools on the wall, this man uses em haha
I have the 12v
I see in some videos if you use the 12v with the 3 ah batteries it has more power !
I have the 887 and I do like the size of this 12 v for ladder work ideal for small jobs , does it charge on the 20v charger by the way ?
yes, that's one thing Dewalt did well, no need to buy a seperate charger for the 12v line
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I have both, and I don’t really like that too too and battery comparison for both I love the 12 ball when I put the five amp battery on it changes the game it’s just like the 20v just not as strong of course. I just didn’t like how slow you made it Look in the video like it was on the slowest settings possible. It seems like ghost man or not like that. Probably just a video made. It seem that way but love the video
DCF 887 FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
12v more gentle
11.17.21 ws c13 hood gls nk guerra
Lol, I'm not a dude but, I'd like to know.
Huh.. weak!! And weak I need!! For electronics and PC maintenance.
As long as 12V has a sensitive trigger, maybe it's better for delicate stuffs than 20V one.
Of course, if impact kicks in, it will still destroy printed circuit boards lol.
Oh hell no dude I see a red Milwaukee bag over there...the betrayal to Dewalt is shattering.... lol jk jk...I don't have a preference to be honest even tho people would say Milwaukee is better...lol
Lol, you should see one of my recent videos🫢 I might have bought more red. Lol
@@hammerandhome hahaha I'll go check it out 🤣
Dewalt put some rubber on your batteries
Dude ur voice puts me to sleep
Lol. Maybe I should do some asmr videos. This was one of my first videos
ITS 18V NOT 20V GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
We live in Canada. It’s called 20v here. I know it’s actually 18 v inside. Dewalt called it 20 v for North America.