How about reviewing upscaling from DVD and standard bluray ? How does the upscaling compare to upscaling done by a TV ? How about noise levels on the fan and the reader ?
I don’t own many DVDs or ever watch them, but an upscaling video on blu-rays may be a good idea. The noise is decently quiet, but it’s much quieter on the UB820 & at its best with the UB9000.
@@b-icemedia I received the UB424 yesterday and tried out the upscaler on blurays. It is not better than the upscaling that my Q90R tv provides, and that is a 2019 model. In other words, a more recent TV of a similar tier will do better than the disc player and hence buying the UB424 for the sake of its upscaler would not make any sense for owners of such TVs.
Nice review - was looking at grabbing this player. Like the features and smaller size. Like that it offers a good picture with HDR10/HDR10+ . Tried a LG player and it was not great so took it back - was freezing in some discs and remote was worse than the one you mention in this review. What happened to the days when they gave you a quality remote with a player? This unit looks to provide more reliability and better picture at a decent price. Was thinking of getting the Panasonic unit above this but probably will not since it is about $160 more from what I seen so not sure it is worth the extra $ for me when it seems the biggest extra feature is Dolby Vision. Would be nice but not sure it is worth that much more.
I appreciate the feedback! It definitely has a good picture, and it's definitely a cheaper option than the two above it. It really just comes down to what you want out of the player, and if you don't care about DV, a digital readout screen, or component inputs, then you should be in good hands with the UB420.
@@BrandonPeccoralo I believe it depends on how the studio encoded the film. Believe if no Dolby Vision by the player then it will just provide HDR unless the disc also supports HDR10 &/or HDR10+. All this also depends on what your TV will output too - I have a Samsung QLED that does not support Dolby but offer HDR10 and a TCL that supports both. Find that less discs seem to offer Dolby Vision too - for example Disney does not seem to offer it on any 4K discs.
@@jodsterjamster8678 thank you. It sounds like we have very very similar setups. I am more of an audiophile and that's why I want the Blu-ray but also have the very good new Samsung 8k QLED that I want to maximize the value of. Sad that Samsung and Dolby have this dispute that consumers suffer from
Wow I have the an LG too and I'm lookig at this because my LG is constantly freezing up!! I would really like the DV version but not at twice the price. So Best Buy has this on sale for $219 so I think I'm gonna pull the trigger. I was just checking reviews to make sure this one doesn't freeze or skip like my LG. Thanks for a great review. I now subscribe :)
All you need to do is buy the compatible remote, and it connects automatically. VCR is best used on a CRT TV, they don't look very well on HD screens. Depending on the player, you can connect those via RCA, component cables, or you can get adapters that convert to HDMI.
@@b-icemedia Maybe in a year I will be able to buy a 4K tv. I just got the 420P 2 weeks ago and the picture quality is better than my aging 2012 Sony player. But I think the 420P is defective, I have had some artifacting, pixelation and freezing issues on some discs. Some of those discs were even brand new. I tried those discs in the old Sony player and they worked fine, which leads me to believe that it is the 420P that is faulty. The sad thing is that I'm from Colombia and Amazon does not give me the option of replacement, only refund, and I have to pay part of the return costs to the USA. And the item is now much more expensive than when I bought it, so I could not buy it again. The irony is that I chose the 420P over the X700M to avoid the playback problems.
I’m having a hard time deciding whether I should purchase this or the UB154. Do you know which one does a better job upscaling to 4k when using 1080P blu rays?
I have a concern and question for Panasonic ubp820... for instance if I want to reproduce regular bluray 1080P I can enable dolby vision feature on my sony bluray 4k player(s) and the they look amazing from my personal perspective I mean ..... I'm not totally sure if I can do the same thing on UBP820 and that stops me to buy one so far even if it's the better 4k player than sony(s) because 80% of my collection is bluray1080P
Yeah, you can't force Dolby Vision on to everything like you can with Sony's players. It personally makes the video quality poor and unnatural to me, but if that's your preference, then you may be better suited with your Sony!
Dolby Vision is an extra layer of data on top of HDR10. As this is a non Dolby Vision player, it plays the HDR10 layer only. It has an HDR Optimiser which attempts to tone-map the image to give best results. The Optimiser for visuals is like an amplifier turning stereo into surround sound. You get similar, effective but lesser results than the real thing.
I’ve always preferred a digital read out to keep track of how long the movie has been playing, but it is another light glaring at you from under the screen, so I can understand that.
I got a Samsung OLED TV last week. I was looking for a 4K player because I’m tired of my Xbox X making that whirring sound every time I play a movie. I was going to buy the 820, but when I saw Samsung doesn’t support Dolby Vision, I decided to get this model. It arrives tomorrow. I think it’s gonna work great for all I want it to do and just play my 4K, Blu-ray and DVDs. I’m just hoping the DVDs will look better than they do in the Xbox.
I think this will definitely be a great choice for you then! It sucks that Samsungs don't support Dolby Vision because their OLEDs are definitely some of the best on the market. I wouldn't expect a dramatic increase in visuals for DVDs, but I think it will handle upscaling a bit better overall.
@@DW3010 Hopefully they'll add it to new models in the future! I'll also have a review on Sony's UBP-X800M2 4K Player, so stay tuned if you've had an eye on that one as well.
@@agrissans No complaints at all 😃 i’m still using it as of today. I’ve never heard of a noise issue. I don’t seem to have one. If there is one, it would pale in comparison to the sound the Xbox one makes. I would buy the third party remote though as I did keep hitting that Netflix button. I think it was only $20 on Amazon. I’ll play a movie in it later today and really listen for a noise. I don’t personally hear one, but now that I know to listen for one I’ll try. 😄
Your Cons are Ridiculous 🤯 This Model is half the Price of the 820 and it only doesn't have Dolby Vision. Personally I don't have any Need for Dolby Vision. This 4K Player is an Amazing, an Extraordinary Value. It is Better than anything Sony, LG or Samsung makes. Because of Panasonic's exclusive Video Processor. Complaining about the Streaming interface, seriously give me a Break. Who does Not have a 4K Steaming device already?
I think they're fair points based on the amount of feedback I've received and read on Panasonic's units. The 820 is the most popular in the lineup with this being a close second or possible third behind the 9000. Thanks for your feedback!
@@b-icemedia If someone wants Dolby Vision then absolutely the 820 is the way to go. If money was No Option sure buy the 9000. Personally if you don't need Dolby Vision I don't think it is worth it to Buy the 820 or the 9000 because you will Not get a Better Picture Quality with them.
Really? That's the first I've heard of that. I'd double-check the settings and see if it needs to be updated because it shouldn't force stereo for any format.
@@b-icemedia not sure, Sonos issues maybe not sure. It's too bad, I was looking forward to using it. I'm just returning it because I'll not be using it.
It’s definitely more of a low to mid tier player, so I can see how it wouldn’t be an upgrade for you. The Panasonic UB-820 or Sony’s X800 would probably be a better choice to move up.
I couldn't care less about DV or HDR. It's hysterical, OLED is such a massive downgrade in motion compared to plasma, but if you buy an external black frame insertion device like Retrotink4k you can reduce motion blur up to 70%(A 4ms persistence, which rivals even the best plasmas). Yet with HDR & DV you're stuck with high motion blur. can't stomach it personally. What good is 4K, DV or HDR when the motion turns to complete mush? lol people eat DV up like it's the next best thing, but it's a double edge sword on OLED. At this point, plasma is still the best way to watch movies on a big HD Screen. Once retrotink4k releases later this year, I might just be singing a different tune.
To each their own! It all comes down to display and content. I think Dolby Vision statistically can outperform HDR10+ long into the future as technology evolves.
This player sucks! I had to return it because it wouldn't read certain 4K discs. Horrible! I went with the Sony X 800. No problems. I won't buy anything Panasonic as far as Blu-ray goes.
Sorry you had issues with it! It seemed to work well when I had it in for the review. I have a Panasonic UB820 that I've had for about two years with no problems at all.
Discs are superior in terms of picture and audio quality. Plus, it’s nice to be able to watch your movie whenever you like without worries of a streaming platform pulling the title one day, haha.
The audio mix for a BD is often very different from the cinema cut which is different from the streaming version. There are people out there who won't settle for anything less than the highest quality audio and video which in this case is 1080p BD or 4K Ultra Blu-ray Disk (UBD).
@@voiceofreason9238 I got a room dedicated to my denon a1h 15.4....refinanced to add a home theatre and I strictly believe in the highest listen experience possible. And yet I still don't used a blue ray unit. Hell I got a laser disc and minidisc unit just for show in my rackmounts. I just attach a server to it all and stream away in nearly a problem free setup, hell my video array has 24 mini units installed. I still don't think u need that blue ray/DVD player.
@@RetroPlayer4000 That still doesn't get you to Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed HDR10+ or Dolby Vision. Streaming is great, they are getting there, and eventually/theoretically push high quality streams over better compression. But until then, the Dolby Digital and Dolby Atmos is noticeably compressed. For video, with the right tweaks, high speed internet, etc. you can get a good 4k stream. 4k 60fps TH-cam is actually pretty impressive.
@@BrandonPeccoralo , no, streaming is not getting there and they won't push high quality streams. You know why? Because at least 95% of the casual viewers who are using streaming don't care about high quality content. Many are watching their movies on laptops and even on their phones. Why would you raise the quality of the streams? It's not economically viable.
See the UB420 vs UB820 showdown comparison here: bit.ly/3YefIdE ⬅📀
Just bought the UB420 on sale for black Friday 😊 It was less than$200.00 dollars. I think it was a good deal. 😊
That's an excellent deal! I hope you enjoy it.
How about reviewing upscaling from DVD and standard bluray ?
How does the upscaling compare to upscaling done by a TV ?
How about noise levels on the fan and the reader ?
I don’t own many DVDs or ever watch them, but an upscaling video on blu-rays may be a good idea. The noise is decently quiet, but it’s much quieter on the UB820 & at its best with the UB9000.
@@b-icemedia
I received the UB424 yesterday and tried out the upscaler on blurays.
It is not better than the upscaling that my Q90R tv provides, and that is a 2019 model. In other words, a more recent TV of a similar tier will do better than the disc player and hence buying the UB424 for the sake of its upscaler would not make any sense for owners of such TVs.
Which remote is the upgrade?? I am ordering the 420 with your link.
That's great to hear! I made a video with the included links to the remote here: th-cam.com/video/LweAohTY4gw/w-d-xo.html
@@b-icemedia tyty...a new fan for life.
@@b-icemedia And it will work with my ub420??
Nice review - was looking at grabbing this player. Like the features and smaller size. Like that it offers a good picture with HDR10/HDR10+ . Tried a LG player and it was not great so took it back - was freezing in some discs and remote was worse than the one you mention in this review. What happened to the days when they gave you a quality remote with a player?
This unit looks to provide more reliability and better picture at a decent price. Was thinking of getting the Panasonic unit above this but probably will not since it is about $160 more from what I seen so not sure it is worth the extra $ for me when it seems the biggest extra feature is Dolby Vision. Would be nice but not sure it is worth that much more.
I appreciate the feedback! It definitely has a good picture, and it's definitely a cheaper option than the two above it. It really just comes down to what you want out of the player, and if you don't care about DV, a digital readout screen, or component inputs, then you should be in good hands with the UB420.
Since it does support HDR10+ will it take Dolby Vision encoding and attempt an HDR10+ picture cast?
@@BrandonPeccoralo I believe it depends on how the studio encoded the film. Believe if no Dolby Vision by the player then it will just provide HDR unless the disc also supports HDR10 &/or HDR10+. All this also depends on what your TV will output too - I have a Samsung QLED that does not support Dolby but offer HDR10 and a TCL that supports both. Find that less discs seem to offer Dolby Vision too - for example Disney does not seem to offer it on any 4K discs.
@@jodsterjamster8678 thank you. It sounds like we have very very similar setups. I am more of an audiophile and that's why I want the Blu-ray but also have the very good new Samsung 8k QLED that I want to maximize the value of. Sad that Samsung and Dolby have this dispute that consumers suffer from
Wow I have the an LG too and I'm lookig at this because my LG is constantly freezing up!! I would really like the DV version but not at twice the price. So Best Buy has this on sale for $219 so I think I'm gonna pull the trigger. I was just checking reviews to make sure this one doesn't freeze or skip like my LG. Thanks for a great review. I now subscribe :)
How is the -K version reviewed here different from the standard UB-420?
It’s the same. It’s the exact model number that you’ll see for online retailers.
How do you upgrade remote? I have Fire stick, Roku, and this dvd player. Also how would I hook up my vcr so it would play at highest level
All you need to do is buy the compatible remote, and it connects automatically. VCR is best used on a CRT TV, they don't look very well on HD screens. Depending on the player, you can connect those via RCA, component cables, or you can get adapters that convert to HDMI.
If I connect this player to a 1080p TV, can I play 4K discs normally (without HDR, of course)?
Yes, you sure can! Are you planning to upgrade to a 4K TV?
@@b-icemedia Maybe in a year I will be able to buy a 4K tv. I just got the 420P 2 weeks ago and the picture quality is better than my aging 2012 Sony player. But I think the 420P is defective, I have had some artifacting, pixelation and freezing issues on some discs. Some of those discs were even brand new. I tried those discs in the old Sony player and they worked fine, which leads me to believe that it is the 420P that is faulty. The sad thing is that I'm from Colombia and Amazon does not give me the option of replacement, only refund, and I have to pay part of the return costs to the USA. And the item is now much more expensive than when I bought it, so I could not buy it again. The irony is that I chose the 420P over the X700M to avoid the playback problems.
I’m having a hard time deciding whether I should purchase this or the UB154. Do you know which one does a better job upscaling to 4k when using 1080P blu rays?
I would imagine the UB420 would because of the processor it shares along with the UB820 and UB9000.
Hello, does this player allow you to view the HDR Metadata?
No, unfortunately. The 820 & 9000 can though.
Aww, that’s too bad. OK, well thank you so much for letting me know.
I have a concern and question for Panasonic ubp820... for instance if I want to reproduce regular bluray 1080P I can enable dolby vision feature on my sony bluray 4k player(s) and the they look amazing from my personal perspective I mean ..... I'm not totally sure if I can do the same thing on UBP820 and that stops me to buy one so far even if it's the better 4k player than sony(s) because 80% of my collection is bluray1080P
Yeah, you can't force Dolby Vision on to everything like you can with Sony's players. It personally makes the video quality poor and unnatural to me, but if that's your preference, then you may be better suited with your Sony!
Does it play m2ts files?
No, I don’t think so.
hey will it work on a non 4k tv thanks
Yes, it will!
You can see the chapter on the tv screen using the control. I have had one of these blu rays for around a year, its great. DB, doesn't matter to me.
True, but it's nice being able to see it on digital readout. I'm glad you're enjoying the player!
Will it take Dolby Vision and try to upconvert to HDR10+ ?
I don’t believe so. I think it will just play and recognize the formats that are on the disc, but I could be wrong!
**update** I just did some reading on Reddit, and it looks like it converts to HDR10, not HDR10+. Some discs do support both formats though.
Interesting, thank you sir!
Dolby Vision is an extra layer of data on top of HDR10. As this is a non Dolby Vision player, it plays the HDR10 layer only. It has an HDR Optimiser which attempts to tone-map the image to give best results. The Optimiser for visuals is like an amplifier turning stereo into surround sound. You get similar, effective but lesser results than the real thing.
Went with the 420, use with my projector so no need for Dolby vision and the hdr optimizer is the same as on the more expensive units.
Don’t blame you for sticking with the 420! It’s a great player and it’s hard to justify spending the extra cash for the two step ups.
@@b-icemedia if you don’t need Dolby vision no reason, plus I like no display in a dark theater it isn’t a distraction.
I’ve always preferred a digital read out to keep track of how long the movie has been playing, but it is another light glaring at you from under the screen, so I can understand that.
I got a Samsung OLED TV last week. I was looking for a 4K player because I’m tired of my Xbox X making that whirring sound every time I play a movie.
I was going to buy the 820, but when I saw Samsung doesn’t support Dolby Vision, I decided to get this model. It arrives tomorrow.
I think it’s gonna work great for all I want it to do and just play my 4K, Blu-ray and DVDs.
I’m just hoping the DVDs will look better than they do in the Xbox.
I think this will definitely be a great choice for you then! It sucks that Samsungs don't support Dolby Vision because their OLEDs are definitely some of the best on the market. I wouldn't expect a dramatic increase in visuals for DVDs, but I think it will handle upscaling a bit better overall.
@@b-icemedia yeah, I’m loving the OLED TV. Buy I do wish it had Dolby Vision as well. Thank you for the review on this player and for the reply. 😃
@@DW3010 Hopefully they'll add it to new models in the future! I'll also have a review on Sony's UBP-X800M2 4K Player, so stay tuned if you've had an eye on that one as well.
So, it's been a year since you bought... 420?
How is it?
I heard it's noisy (the fan or something?)... Is that SO?
@@agrissans No complaints at all 😃 i’m still using it as of today. I’ve never heard of a noise issue. I don’t seem to have one. If there is one, it would pale in comparison to the sound the Xbox one makes.
I would buy the third party remote though as I did keep hitting that Netflix button.
I think it was only $20 on Amazon.
I’ll play a movie in it later today and really listen for a noise. I don’t personally hear one, but now that I know to listen for one I’ll try. 😄
Can it play movies with Dolby vision in it
No, you would need to move up to the UB820 for Dolby Vision.
@@b-icemedia I will return the 420 at Best Buy and buy the UB820
Sounds good! Let me know what you think of it!
@@b-icemedia what all do I need to hookup the Panasonic 4K UB820
I have the Panasonic ub820 4 k Blu-ray player 😍
Awesome! It's definitely a good one. I've been enjoying mine as well.
@@b-icemediais UB820 better than UB420 because I m thinking about taking back the 420 and order 820 with Dolby vision
Is there one you like better for $200?
No, I'd say this is the best for that price range. LGs and Sonys seem to be hit or miss.
Netflix Streaming hd only not 4k why ??
It should allow 4K streaming! Is it not allowing it for you?
Your Cons are Ridiculous 🤯
This Model is half the Price of the 820 and it only doesn't have Dolby Vision. Personally I don't have any Need for Dolby Vision.
This 4K Player is an Amazing, an Extraordinary Value. It is Better than anything Sony, LG or Samsung makes. Because of Panasonic's exclusive Video Processor.
Complaining about the Streaming interface, seriously give me a Break. Who does Not have a 4K Steaming device already?
I think they're fair points based on the amount of feedback I've received and read on Panasonic's units. The 820 is the most popular in the lineup with this being a close second or possible third behind the 9000. Thanks for your feedback!
@@b-icemedia
If someone wants Dolby Vision then absolutely the 820 is the way to go.
If money was No Option sure buy the 9000.
Personally if you don't need Dolby Vision I don't think it is worth it to Buy the 820 or the 9000 because you will Not get a Better Picture Quality with them.
Netflix Button, your right. Pain.
Most definitely! The remote upgrade is well worth it.
DTS movies don't work. They work fine on the Xbox, wonderful 5.1, but I play the same movie it's on the player goes to stereo.
Really? That's the first I've heard of that. I'd double-check the settings and see if it needs to be updated because it shouldn't force stereo for any format.
@@b-icemedia not sure, Sonos issues maybe not sure. It's too bad, I was looking forward to using it. I'm just returning it because I'll not be using it.
i just purchased as upgrade from the sony 700 and i sent it back cause the sony was still better
It’s definitely more of a low to mid tier player, so I can see how it wouldn’t be an upgrade for you. The Panasonic UB-820 or Sony’s X800 would probably be a better choice to move up.
Was the picture quality better, because that's all that really matters.
@@jamesorsby7553 I have the Panasonic 820 the sound and picture is amazing. I'm playing on a LG OLED
@@jamesorsby7553 Did you ever find out if it was better?
Wil not be buying this player. Killed me with no Dolby Vision .
Exactly how I felt as well! If it had Dolby Visions, I think this would be the Best Buy as far as Panasonic goes.
I couldn't care less about DV or HDR. It's hysterical, OLED is such a massive downgrade in motion compared to plasma, but if you buy an external black frame insertion device like Retrotink4k you can reduce motion blur up to 70%(A 4ms persistence, which rivals even the best plasmas). Yet with HDR & DV you're stuck with high motion blur. can't stomach it personally. What good is 4K, DV or HDR when the motion turns to complete mush? lol people eat DV up like it's the next best thing, but it's a double edge sword on OLED.
At this point, plasma is still the best way to watch movies on a big HD Screen. Once retrotink4k releases later this year, I might just be singing a different tune.
I've never noticed much of a difference between regular hdr10 and dolby vision, but that's just me.
HDR10+ is superior to Dolby Vision. Just because it’s Dolby doesn’t mean it’s better. Oversaturated, incorrectly tone mapped junk.
To each their own! It all comes down to display and content. I think Dolby Vision statistically can outperform HDR10+ long into the future as technology evolves.
@@b-icemedia Outperform? Actually it can’t. But you think what you want.
This player sucks! I had to return it because it wouldn't read certain 4K discs. Horrible! I went with the Sony X 800. No problems. I won't buy anything Panasonic as far as Blu-ray goes.
Sorry you had issues with it! It seemed to work well when I had it in for the review. I have a Panasonic UB820 that I've had for about two years with no problems at all.
@b-icemedia Mine was the UB 420. Pretty much ran horrible from the get go.
Just stream.....whats a blue ray player
Discs are superior in terms of picture and audio quality. Plus, it’s nice to be able to watch your movie whenever you like without worries of a streaming platform pulling the title one day, haha.
The audio mix for a BD is often very different from the cinema cut which is different from the streaming version.
There are people out there who won't settle for anything less than the highest quality audio and video which in this case is 1080p BD or 4K Ultra Blu-ray Disk (UBD).
@@voiceofreason9238 I got a room dedicated to my denon a1h 15.4....refinanced to add a home theatre and I strictly believe in the highest listen experience possible. And yet I still don't used a blue ray unit. Hell I got a laser disc and minidisc unit just for show in my rackmounts. I just attach a server to it all and stream away in nearly a problem free setup, hell my video array has 24 mini units installed. I still don't think u need that blue ray/DVD player.
@@RetroPlayer4000 That still doesn't get you to Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed HDR10+ or Dolby Vision. Streaming is great, they are getting there, and eventually/theoretically push high quality streams over better compression. But until then, the Dolby Digital and Dolby Atmos is noticeably compressed. For video, with the right tweaks, high speed internet, etc. you can get a good 4k stream. 4k 60fps TH-cam is actually pretty impressive.
@@BrandonPeccoralo , no, streaming is not getting there and they won't push high quality streams. You know why? Because at least 95% of the casual viewers who are using streaming don't care about high quality content. Many are watching their movies on laptops and even on their phones. Why would you raise the quality of the streams? It's not economically viable.