My Family Wants “Their” Money I Inherited

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  • @rn2811
    @rn2811 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +208

    Money will always bring out someone’s true character.

    • @GodsSparrowSpeaks
      @GodsSparrowSpeaks 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Precisely …
      I learned this from experience. Twice.
      Really sad and scary when it’s your own family or spouse

    • @littleone7404
      @littleone7404 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      One hundred percent because people are Greedy and money is the root of all evil

    • @TM-oe2on
      @TM-oe2on 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I have a family member who is a living example of this!

    • @JamieM470
      @JamieM470 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@littleone7404 Love of money is the root of all evil

    • @rolandhansen812
      @rolandhansen812 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@littleone7404 Actually it's "the love of money is the root of all evil". Money itself is just a tool. It's the greed that brings out the evil.

  • @paintedwarrior516
    @paintedwarrior516 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Our mother passed in 2022, found out her husband took her to his nephew, a financial advisor, and betrayed her. In her mind us kids would get the money in her investments. He also told us he wanted to buy her house, but bought a different house, didn't tell us, and stripped her house of everything valuable in secret. He then continued to go back to mom's house and steal more stuff. Mom had a will too, the first item was that she wasn't leaving him anything. He stoled her jewelry too. Jerk stood in front of us kids saying he didn't want anything from Mom's estate, not one penny was his words. He had already laid his plans, his daughter wore Mom's emerald earrings and ring to moms funeral knowing full well Mom wanted her jewlery to go to my niece. What a POS

    • @divekatdreaming
      @divekatdreaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Yeah...I always figure that if someone remarries, the kids gotta just waive bye bye to any expectation of an inheritance. There are so many stories of the 1st family getting screwed over.

    • @Splexsychiick
      @Splexsychiick 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      If she had a will get the stuff back in court. Pay to publish the story in news articles and on online blogs. Law and shame are powerful tools.

    • @DiligoBarba
      @DiligoBarba 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@divekatdreaming No people get screwed over because we act like children when it comes to money as a
      society. It's your responsibility to go talk to Mom or Dad and find out what you will inherit then act like an adult spend the money and get the inheritance put in trust just like rich people do. That way you WILL INDEED get the money when the parent dies.
      You go get a cheap or free lawyer and get it done. Long before ANY illness pops up.
      Make them put in it writing what you the child will get and what the new spouse will get and make sure it's separate!!!
      I have found that most of the time kids get screwed by step
      parents cause you kids insist on treating them like shit then they get you back when your parent dies. Kissing a little bit of ass goes a long way to making things easier on yourself in the stressful even if losing a parent. You never see this stuff happen when the kids decide to be friends with or even just tolerate the step-parent.

    • @divekatdreaming
      @divekatdreaming 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DiligoBarba Definitely. There wouldn't be an issue if people used trusts.

    • @NickoBaggins
      @NickoBaggins 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DiligoBarba I look at it differently. Inheritance is 100% the parents' responsibility. Sure, the kids should have open and productive conversations with their parents, but at the end of the day it is on the parents to actually fulfill their responsibilities.
      That includes using wills and trusts.
      I think we agree on the solution, more or less, but not on where the 'blame' lies.

  • @lifesabeach746
    @lifesabeach746 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +220

    Give the children their parents’ money. What they do with it is up to them. They have lost both parents the last thing they need is to battle with their aunt.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @lifesabeach746
      Says who, you? It wasn’t YOUR money, and the people whose money is was said the OPPOSITE of what you’re demanding. Who the hell are you to demand that? That’s obscene and laughable.

    • @nailatiylluf
      @nailatiylluf 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@TheSecondWitnesssays the person who was left the money. She said she thinks it’s an oversight because the children were minors when they got the policy. Your take is what’s obscene and laughable.

    • @blessedpapa
      @blessedpapa 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Lost both parents as minors and the Aunt wants to keep the insurance money, what kind of human being is that?

    • @alicemattsen2208
      @alicemattsen2208 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I was willed all my aunt owned. I called her kids to come get the gold and diamond rings, the boat, guns, nick nacks then i sold the house and shared it with them. I had sold or given all my stuff away when she called and said she was lonely. Would i come stay with her. She only lived 3 months before getting a bad case of pneumonia and I had pneumonia also but didn’t have to be hospitalized. She never came out. The cousins were in shock after the funeral but knew all I’d given up to come care for her in her one bedroom little house.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@alicemattsen2208 exactly this. These people have no idea what has been happening in the lives of this person who wrote the letter and her family's.

  • @jvsaints
    @jvsaints 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Excellent reminder to all of us. What we planned when our children were young probably no longer applies.

  • @d0llface503
    @d0llface503 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    The insurance company was not supposed to tell them who the beneficiaries are. As someone who works with estates we can only give people information they are supposed to know. Go back to the company and file a formal complaint. I would be curious to know how long ago they listed you as the beneficiary you can find that out with the insurance company.

    • @kevinbossick8374
      @kevinbossick8374 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Exactly. The kids would not of received that info.

    • @davidbonatz1275
      @davidbonatz1275 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Might have been mentioned in the will.
      "Oh and by the way kids we took out an insurance policy out check with [insert name here] for more details!"

    • @fireseeker4him
      @fireseeker4him 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s family so they might have heard it through other relatives or the beneficiaries themselves.

    • @lisawatson7599
      @lisawatson7599 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Might be some paperwork laying around

    • @d0llface503
      @d0llface503 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It literally says in the first 25 seconds of the video when they met with the insurance company they found out who the named beneficiaries are.

  • @elianah8803
    @elianah8803 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +108

    Give the kids the money. The parents forgot to update the beneficiaries which could happen during a grieving period (his wife died). That said, check to make sure there are no tax implications for you and your son before giving it to them. If there are, you need to withhold that amount prior to dispensing it.

    • @KS-cl8br
      @KS-cl8br 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      doesn't make sense why the guy didn't set up a trust for his kids makes no sense even while his wife was living ... it is his fault ... is SIL his mistress and the nephew in law his son ???? why on 🌎 would he have set his policy this way

    • @gunnerarshavin2009
      @gunnerarshavin2009 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KS-cl8br​I won't pretend to know everything for certain. But I can only judge/assume the following from the info the sister-in-law/letter writer provided:
      1. The policy was obtained when her deceased brother-in-law's children were minors. So this was probably years or decades ago.
      2. The sister-in-law herself states that she believes that she and her son were made beneficiaries specifically because the children were minors. This makes sense and indicates that deep down she has strong doubts that the money is really meant for her.
      3. Since her sister (the children's mother) who would have been the primary beneficiary is deceased, it is logical to assume that her brother-in-law may have put his sister-in-law and her son as secondary beneficiaries back then. Just in case BOTH the brother-in-law and his wife were to pass away, he assumed the sister-in-law and her older son would be responsible enough to use the money to help raise his children.
      The summary of my position is this. There is no legal requirement to give the children the money in this case. But there is a strong moral argument to do so in the spirit of good family relations. This is different from if the sister-in-law was given the money in a will. If that was the case, there would be no argument whatsoever to give the children a dime, as the deceased intentions would have been crystal clear!

    • @ericeandco
      @ericeandco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don’t know the parents forgot to update the policy. Your assuming. And you can’t just give them the money. There’s tax consequences. It would be considered a gift.

    • @elianah8803
      @elianah8803 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ericeandco all one can do is assume as the person is deceased. Read note regarding withholding taxes

    • @NickoBaggins
      @NickoBaggins 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KS-cl8br I agree they should have used a trust.
      I'd put my money on there being a combination of ignorance (not knowing how to do it or wanting to learn), pushing it off until later (procrastinating it because 'there will be time later'), and not wanting to pay the cost to set up a trust.
      Some people (myself included) know they need to set up a trust and have not made the time for it yet. In that case they often will list family members as beneficiaries so they can act as a sort of informal executor until they get around to forming the trust.
      It's unfortunate the deceased parents apparently didn't communicate at all with OP what their wishes were. That would have helped a lot.

  • @Shay-yg7nm
    @Shay-yg7nm 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Be the better person. If they are responsible kids, give them the money. Dave is right here.

    • @ericeandco
      @ericeandco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, Dave is completely wrong here. The kids got other assets but not the insurance policy. You don’t know what the intentions were. Also you can’t just sign over the money without tax implications.

    • @101perspective
      @101perspective 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think he could be wrong though on the legal aspect. From her comment it sounds very much as though that policy money was NEVER meant for her. And I think they could prove that in court even if she wasn't already admitting it. I mean, they got the policy while the kids were minors and named the person who would be the obvious guardian of those kids if the parents died. That seems pretty straight forward to me unless she has evidence showing the intent changed.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dave is 100% wrong.

  • @daleyfamily2179
    @daleyfamily2179 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Ahh the greed kicks in. She said I think its an oversight, should I give it back. WTF? You just answered your damn question.

    • @ericeandco
      @ericeandco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right the answer is NO. It’s not an oversight. The kids got other assets including an IRA. Also you can’t just give it back. The assets must be distributed to the beneficiaries. That’s this man and his son. If he gives anyone the money it’s now a gift subject to gift tax. He would be reducing his lifetime unified gift tax credit which effects the taxability of his own estate.

    • @LegDayLas
      @LegDayLas 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't think she was actually asking "should I", she was actually asking "do I legally have to?"

  • @jacoblynch9862
    @jacoblynch9862 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +154

    I could be completely wrong, but I think they were left the money to take care of the children while they were children. Then, as they became adults the policy just never got changed for whatever reason this is just my opinion I think the kids should now get the money I don’t care what their financial situation is. I don’t care if they would blow every penny of it, in my opinion it should be their money

    • @ILovePlayingZeldaGamesOnSwitch
      @ILovePlayingZeldaGamesOnSwitch 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      My thoughts too. As an aunt, i can only guide/remind them but i wouldn't take their parents money.

    • @nikfish1
      @nikfish1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Why would her son be on the policy as well in that case?

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Policy must have been drawn up by an idiot. All of these policies should be future proofed so that if the kids are adults when the parents die they are automatically the beneficiaries.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@nikfish1exactly

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Weakeyedominantwell not if for some reason they wanted exactly what they indicated on the paperwork...that she and her son inherit the benefits from the life insurance. It's not like the kids were not named to get everything else...there was other money and assets that they left to the children. If they wanted the kids to have all of it then why would they have left everything else to the kids except for this?

  • @dwaynemauk566
    @dwaynemauk566 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Give the kids the money. It was intended for their upkeep while minors, so the intent was for the kids. It's amazing how inheritance all of a sudden changes people to ask "am I right to do . . . "
    Well, if you have to ask that question, then you know the answer. Greed seems to take over "yeah, give it to the kids who lost their parents".

    • @Faesharlyn
      @Faesharlyn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They're not minors any more and have no claim to the inheritance

    • @dwaynemauk566
      @dwaynemauk566 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Faesharlyn As was noted, legally you're right. Still doesn't mean that the right thing to do, is give it to the kids. Not everything has to be driven by the law or courts, or a document. If the person who called in, has to ask what the "right" thing to do is, they already know but are trying to find a reason to defend keeping it.

    • @Faesharlyn
      @Faesharlyn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @dwaynemauk566 but we don't know what's happened between then and now, how much OP was involved with sister's family (for example, did they all live together and a family unit or pool their resources? )
      I don't have enough information from the family to make the call, but my takeaway from the letter is that the "children" are adults who should bring on a mediator since they feel they have a valid claim.
      Morally? Sure. With the information we have, split evenly among the kids seems fair unless their wills specifically exclude anyone but even if they do, what's the difference? It's just money at the end of the day.

    • @dwaynemauk566
      @dwaynemauk566 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Faesharlyn Agreed. "its just money at the end of the day" also applies to the adults.

  • @annelarrybrunelle3570
    @annelarrybrunelle3570 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Don't forget that, if it's legally YOUR money, usually life insurance isn't taxed, but GIFTS can be. And, as one poster pointed out, refusing the proceeds may trigger a contingent beneficiary issue. So, understand the issues before you act. If you want to GIVE the money, you may want to do it over several years to avoid gift taxes - something YOU pay. Also, don't too quickly determine you know someone else's intent. You right now are facing an unsolicited management issue. You may need the advice of a lawyer and maybe an accountant to get it right. The fact you're being pressured is the best reason in the world to move deliberately. And, since you may incur expense, and you didn't ask for this, it's fair for expenses to come out of the proceeds instead of your existing funds, regardless of what you decide.

    • @demo2382
      @demo2382 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Emailer didn't express any of this concern in the letter. Didn't even mention any wishes of the parents. I believe this person knows they inherited the money on accident and only wants to know, "Will I be an asshole if I kept this money for myself?"

    • @deeladybug2618
      @deeladybug2618 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Excellent advice

    • @hubster4477
      @hubster4477 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can give 13 million with no taxes.

    • @LegDayLas
      @LegDayLas 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Giving it slowly over several years to avoid paying gift tax is considered structuring and is illegal. Will you get cought? Probably not if you do it right and under the table, but it is criminal never the less.

    • @hubster4477
      @hubster4477 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LegDayLas you have 13 million dollar lee way for no taxes on gifts.

  • @aslansown
    @aslansown 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    I used to work in life insurance claims. Can't tell you how many times people forgot to change their beneficiary when they remarried, etc.

    • @rolandhansen812
      @rolandhansen812 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      That is exactly right. So often an ex-wife gets the life insurance money simply because her ex husband forgot to change the beneficiary.

    • @IndigoStarrAz
      @IndigoStarrAz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The IRA goes to the ex-wife - HaHa

    • @kimberlymartin459
      @kimberlymartin459 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rolandhansen812I'm pretty sure the "ex" who receives the insurance money, was the one keeping up the payments for the insurance.

    • @homesteadrevivals
      @homesteadrevivals 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rolandhansen812 If she's the mother of his children, it probably wasn't an "oversight."

    • @anndeecosita3586
      @anndeecosita3586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@homesteadrevivalsSometimes it is an oversight. My uncle didn’t take his ex wife off of his life insurance policies for years after he remarried because he is lazy and absent minded.

  • @timlane5445
    @timlane5445 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    The will has. No control of life insurance. The life insurance will be given to the person on the policy.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes...they didn't say otherwise

    • @Sexy40baby1
      @Sexy40baby1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Beneficiary trumps the Will.

  • @rothbj1
    @rothbj1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    A long time employee (30+ years) suddenly and unexpectedly passed away. His widow contacted benefits concerning his life insurance benefit. The beneficiary was his old girlfriend from decades earlier. I don’t know how it eventually worked out, but the beneficiary designation is ironclad.

    • @TheeStarlight
      @TheeStarlight 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      In South Africa if they were married in community of property the law overrides the beneficiary and even the will sometimes.

    • @yukey2587
      @yukey2587 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      This happens a lot in the military, when young and dumb people get married and divorced like changing underwear. I have known of an ex wife from ages ago coming in and scooping up everything, leaving the wife and kids of 30 years penniless.

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A wil is suerceded by banks beneficiary.

    • @caitlankelly4367
      @caitlankelly4367 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤢

  • @iheartbridalcouture5989
    @iheartbridalcouture5989 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    I guarantee you she will keep it. She would have already given it to them if she felt the least bit uncomfortable about it. She’s looking for validation

    • @robertdusziii4125
      @robertdusziii4125 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mind reader alert.

    • @LegDayLas
      @LegDayLas 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Her question was not actially ""should I", it's "do I legally have to?"

  • @michaelblazin4093
    @michaelblazin4093 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    You just can’t “sign over” the money. If the aunt disclaims the policy, it goes to the contingent beneficiary if one exists. If no contingent, it goes into the estate and gets probated per the will. It probably would be better if the aunt takes the insurance payout and gifts it to nieces and nephews using annual gift exemptions or puts it into an irrevocable trust with the nieces and nephews as beneficiaries.
    The beneficiary aunt does NOT control the payout if she disclaims.

    • @marianne16897
      @marianne16897 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why can’t she accept the money as her own, then at some point give the money to the kids? Are you saying its not her money to do as she wishes after accepting it?

    • @rabidgoon
      @rabidgoon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marianne16897 he's saying she can gift it to them but she would either have to give it in tax exempt increments yearly or put it in a trust for them. if she just writes them a check they willl be taxed to hell on it.

    • @michaelblazin4093
      @michaelblazin4093 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marianne16897 I mentioned that possibility and also to set up,a trust with it. It is her money, tax free. The problem is if her nieces and nephews don’t want her to have any control except to have the payout sent to them . That can’t happen unless they want to wait for probate.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@marianne16897lol...thats exactly what the OP just said...that rather than say she doesn't want the money go ahead and take it and then turn around and gift it to the kids if that's what she wishes to do. Did you not read what they said?😊

    • @marianne16897
      @marianne16897 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@PrimateProductions you’re right 😂 not sure why i misread

  • @iknow9894
    @iknow9894 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Are you telling me that you believe your dearly departed sister and B.I.L didn't want their money to go to their kids. Your a mother as well what would you want if the shoe was on the other foot. These poor kids.😢

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      If that's what he wanted then why did he indicate that everything else, the other money, the house, the vehicles but yet not say this particular money should go to them as well? Why wouldn't he have just went ahead and left everything to them? Maybe he for some reason wished for her and her son to have that money. We don't know their lives or what all has occurred.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @iknow9894
      Yeah, sure, these “poor kids” demanding that someone else’s money is theirs 😂

    • @HelenaBasyouni
      @HelenaBasyouni 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Maybe the brother just wanted to help his sister out for whatever reason. She did that he left it to and her son. We don't know how old her son is or if he has special needs. He probably thought his kids are grown up and don't need the money. He left them the savings and everything else.

    • @EFN86
      @EFN86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@PrimateProductionshe probably updated the will but forgot to update the life insurance policy.

    • @ericeandco
      @ericeandco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bottom line is the money belongs to this man and his son. He needs professional advice from an attorney and CPA before he transfers that money to anyone else anyway. Huge tax and possible legal implications.

  • @noheader
    @noheader 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I disowned most of my relatives due to the numerous times they stole money from my grandmother, yet if I got a million tomarrow my dirtbag aunt and her kids would expect me to divide it with them.

  • @cathy7824
    @cathy7824 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    I own a property with my sister and share a bank account with her. I would never keep that money or her assets from her grown children or her young son.

    • @HuwPewPew
      @HuwPewPew 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I can think of some reasons why I would. Ask your sister now, does she think her children would benefit more from a lump sum of cash that they would use wisely or would they benefit more from you making those financial decisions on their behalf.

    • @donaldjohnson-wn6ps
      @donaldjohnson-wn6ps 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's easy to say never, until the day arrives when one of the kids starts dating a drug addict and nearby cash is just vaporizing.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @cathy7824
      That’s you. These other people obviously can make their own mind up and decided to give it to the people they chose. Its their money, not yours, and they can make their own decisions.

    • @suen5006
      @suen5006 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, but if she dies her kids can demand you sell the property or pay them their share if her estate says her assets go to her kids.

    • @rolandhansen812
      @rolandhansen812 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@suen5006 Possibly - joint bank accounts and jointly owned property generally go directly to the other owner listed on the deed/account and isn't part of the willed property. It often depends on the laws where they live.

  • @JasonGroom
    @JasonGroom 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dave is right, that is what rich people do, but they also have the money to pay someone to fully manage that estate planning and take care of everything but the discussion and the signature

    • @thirdcoast-nx7jx
      @thirdcoast-nx7jx 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't leave a chaotic disaster for family to sort out and fix because a will and estate plan is "too expensive". Make it a priority and then keep up with it through life's changes. This is everyone's personal responsibility.

  • @philipingram1667
    @philipingram1667 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I would follow the will as it is written. A lawyer should review it prior to any changes made as whatever is done will make some relative mad. I have seen a post distribution renegotiation of a will personally and it cost me in several ways - not worth what was left and lost.

    • @mogamethanu
      @mogamethanu 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Of course you would, but the parents clearly wanted to leave the money to the children

  • @jinjahh
    @jinjahh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    No one has mentioned the ages of the "kids" who want the aunt and cousin to give them the money. Because the aunt and her son are the beneficiaries, I'd be more likely to think that they were made the beneficiaries on purpose. If it was just the aunt, I'd question if it was an oversight.

  • @hammertyme8392
    @hammertyme8392 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Greed. Until you've experienced it, you'll never understand

  • @queenbeemo42
    @queenbeemo42 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am so glad my work makes me reset my beneficiaries every single year.

  • @faithhakkarainen8776
    @faithhakkarainen8776 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    I would ask the ‘when was the last beneficiary change’.

    • @ericolens3
      @ericolens3 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats kinda the pain about estate planning and wills.
      each and everything thing must be updated.... SEPERATELY
      1) the succession of the home
      2) the cars
      3) high value items
      4) seperate buckets of cash like
      401k, IRAs, saving accounts, 529s and so on
      5) the life insurance policy
      6) and so on
      each and every single account must be kept up to date.
      I've heard its a major pain in the butt for remarried folks, cuz what you establish (say in your 20s and 30s) but forgot about in your 40s to 60s or death would ALL BE WILLED TO THE FIRST WIFE and I guess that lineage.
      I'm not a lawyer so do your own reading and get professional advice on it. but I will say this. keep your docs up to date.
      for me, I'm planning on updating that mess at age 45, cuz thats when I'd be within 30 years of a term life policy to actually be useful.
      i mean, 45 plus 30 is 75, sooo i could be statically be dead by then.
      any sooner and I'll just use the money to pay off debts more aggressively like loans, credit cards, auto financing or my mortgage. owning a home in full is a better will to my lineage than some cash (okay not really but its better for ME)

    • @texasskygirl7890
      @texasskygirl7890 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good point.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep that might shed more light on it!😊

  • @gunnerarshavin2009
    @gunnerarshavin2009 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    The letter writer knows this was an error. The deceased trusted her to help the bereaved children with the money when they were too young to handle it. So why would the deceased leave an insurance policy to the letter writer now that the children are older? Please do the honorable thing and give the children their money!

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      There us absolutely no way you could possibly know that. You don't know their lives or what circumstances were going on. If he left everything else, the other money, the house, the vehicles to the kids then maybe there was a reason he wished for his sister and nephew to have this money. We have no idea how much this money was, it might have only been $30,000 and maybe he wished for them to have it since the kids received everything else. There is just no way to know despite what you insist that _you know_ and that the _sister knows_
      😏

    • @mogamethanu
      @mogamethanu 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with you and the person replying is probably wrong.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @gunnerarshavin2009
      Who are you to override the stated wishes of those people’s money? Love how you believe you know everything and can read minds. You have NO CLUE what they intended. We only know what was written.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mogamethanu I am wrong that there is no way she could know that for sure? You disagree with my statement that we have no idea what their life was or how much money the life insurance payout was?
      If that's what you think then you are also delusional!
      Because we have no way if knowing any if these things we cannot possibly say that we know what this person's intentions were and that one scenario can be just as likely as any other...and that was my whole point. I swear people don't use their brains.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheSecondWitness exactly this!!

  • @cathyrowe594
    @cathyrowe594 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What if the late sister was intending for the policy to bless her sister & the inheritance is as it was meant to be?

  • @anndeecosita3586
    @anndeecosita3586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Ask the insurance company when was the last time the policy beneficiary was updated. If it never was, I say give those kids THEIR money.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @anndeecosita3586
      Funny how you’re dictating whose money it is, when YOU had nothing to do with this.

    • @CreamIceMs
      @CreamIceMs 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@TheSecondWitness why are you being sarcastic? They offered a reasonable idea. If the insurance policy was modified after the kids became adults, it's clear the money was intended for the aunt. If it was never updated, it signals that it was for the kids. Why are you mad about a reasonable suggestion that provides clarity?

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @CreamIceMs
      Don’t be ridiculous. She put “THEIR money” in bold. Wow, glad the 2 of you can read minds, and know where other peoples money should go - even AFTER that person put in writing where their money was to go 😂

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheSecondWitnessStop being a clown. It’s a discussion people are having.

    • @TheSecondWitness
      @TheSecondWitness 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @tonycrabtree3416
      You’re the clown, along with anyone who tries to dictate other peoples money. Imagine the absolute gall you have to have to tell someone their money needs to be given to someone else. “THEIR” money? Haha try again. That’s pathetic.

  • @theworldaccordingtoallie1176
    @theworldaccordingtoallie1176 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It’s theirs. At the end of the day, it IS theirs.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep

    • @MyAirMyles
      @MyAirMyles 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Legally its not so sit down and be wrong.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MyAirMyles legally it belongs to the sister and the nephew. If you are arguing against that then it is YOU that is wrong.

    • @Kivlor
      @Kivlor 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Legally not. But from a moral perspective, if she believes it was in her name in case the kids were orphaned while minors (which she says she does) then keeping it would be wrong.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Kivlor legally not what? _Legally_ it DOES belong to the sister and her son, the nephew. How can anyone attempt to argue against that when they are the ones listed as the beneficiaries on the policy?

  • @jandavis5403
    @jandavis5403 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Their money? The mere fact that they think it's theirs is concerning. Do they need the money? Isn't the house car etc enough? Do you know it's an oversight? What did they tell you ?

    • @eleo_b
      @eleo_b 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Come on. Why would it be more likely to be for their aunt and cousin than for them? Especially if this dates back to them being minors. They're not entitled to anything, but this seems unlikely.

  • @Carroll-dude
    @Carroll-dude 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    I say put it in a trust fund so they don't use it all up all in 6 months.

    • @KS-cl8br
      @KS-cl8br 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      so spend $2k to babysit adults

  • @gwene.9912
    @gwene.9912 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    His letter said it was an over sight, so the kids was young, when it was taken out. The money was for the kids, so now they are adults the money should go to the kids hands.

  • @matthewdeanl5884
    @matthewdeanl5884 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thanks Uncle Dave for teaching us how to think about money and especially your horse sense!

  • @camillemayers103
    @camillemayers103 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The answer was in her statement. He left them each a house, a car and an IRA. He planned for their shelter and their retirement. This was not a mistake.

    • @bradycone
      @bradycone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But we don't know that. People can leave their kids all that AND life insurance. When the aunt herself thinks it was a mistake, that's pretty telling.

  • @stevemcmillin2737
    @stevemcmillin2737 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Estates are not always as cut and dry and they make it sound. My in-laws had their estate and everyone agreed which brother would be the executor. Parents both passed and the brother didn't do what he was supposed to do. Took forever for my husband to finally get his portion because the brother would not be transparent in what he was doing to get all the assets straightened out. My husband finally had to hire his own lawyer to communicate with the estate lawyer to get things moving. Unfortunately he and his brother and sister have not spoken in a couple of years and they are all in their 60's and 70's. The estate lawyer agreed things were not right but sure wasn't in a hurry to put a stop to it. The longer it drug on the more money she got!

  • @John3v8
    @John3v8 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Checking to see when the parents last changed their Wills might provide another clue. If the Wills were changed after the children were grown, then it's hard to believe it was an oversight, although that's still possible.

  • @M167A1
    @M167A1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    I had a very close friend growing up who sadly passed away about ten years ago.
    We were nearly inseparable growing up and were close with each other's families.
    On her death a couple of years ago, his mother left his portion of the estate to me "in his honor." It wasn't giant, but neither family is particularly wealthy so it meant a bit more than might be expected.
    His brother and sister were not happy. Demanded that I just give the whole thing to them.
    The lesson here isn't the story. It's what Dave is talking about. It's not only necessary to have the paperwork but to make sure everyone understands what is coming.

    • @OopThereItIs77777
      @OopThereItIs77777 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I hope to everything holy you said “NO” and walked away.

    • @dioltlw3144
      @dioltlw3144 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mee too!

    • @jlmoses16
      @jlmoses16 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The brother and sister are trash. They have more lust for their mother's money than they do respect for their mother's wishes.

    • @Xsilif
      @Xsilif 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you give it to them?

    • @JoanneNjeri-ef6sz
      @JoanneNjeri-ef6sz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@XsilifOf course not.

  • @privacyplease1556
    @privacyplease1556 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Such a ridiculous question. There was no world where they wanted to leave ZERO money to their kids and give it all to their brother and sister in law. What a terrible person. Give the kids their money you greedy greedy man

    • @mathematician1234
      @mathematician1234 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She said the kids will get IRA + House + Car. I guess this call is about other money outside of that. The money could be small or large compared with IRA + House + Car. The woman writing in sounds like she has integrity.

    • @sarahb8073
      @sarahb8073 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mathematician1234 integrity implies trustworthiness and incorruptibility to a degree that one is incapable of being false to a trust, responsibility, or pledge. This person admitted that it was likely an oversight on the part of the parents but greed took over 🤑🤑🤑

  • @grasshopper9449
    @grasshopper9449 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Not an oversight. can't believe the reinterpretation of someone's intentions. The children inherited many other assets.

  • @cathywojcik2420
    @cathywojcik2420 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The thing I would question is why the dead guy left the insurance money to his sister-in-law AND HER SON. It sounds like a gift to me and not "use this money for my kids".

  • @mom2collegekids26
    @mom2collegekids26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Split the money….half for you/your son…half for the kids, but put them in a trust FOR THEM when they’re older

  • @melindamezzolesta3485
    @melindamezzolesta3485 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Mistake-Oversite - you guys are right. I'm going through paperwork getting set to retire. I just reviewed my insurance and found that the beneficiary was my husbands brother and wife. They were to be the guardians of our kids if both of us died. Don't think that applies any longer since the kids are 36 and 32 yo. Changed that right away. But would have been a weird situation since that was not my intent.

  • @daveedg2473
    @daveedg2473 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    My parents have sat me down and told me what me and my brother r getting when they pass. I told my parents to spend all their money have all the fun they can. They r in their 70s and worked so stinkin hard they need to have all the fun they still can. They don’t need to worry about me I can take care of myself as an adult. I appreciate them trying to help me out but I think that’s an old mentality. They have the responsibility to take care of me till I’m 18 and then be there for me afterwards but that’s all I need is their love.

    • @ILovinGunz
      @ILovinGunz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its not an old mentality. It's a mentality of desire to perpetuate generational wealth. Both your mentality and theirs are as old as time.

    • @jameskirkpatrick5569
      @jameskirkpatrick5569 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      As much as that is admirable, being the benficiary of parents whp are organized and know what they are doing. Even if theres not a penny in cash left there might be properties, trust, stocks whatever.

    • @ILovinGunz
      @ILovinGunz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jameskirkpatrick5569 Uh yeah, of course.

    • @kellyhou9594
      @kellyhou9594 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Sometimes, it gives parents more enjoyment when the next generation takes the gift. To see their kids and grandchildren enjoying it is the best enjoyment they can have.
      I feel the same for my sons and daughter.

    • @joesmith3590
      @joesmith3590 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A godly man leave inheritance for his children’s children. To spend all your money unnecessarily is immoral. Look at when people were godly they saved and built. Now they run up the debt and go to Europe.

  • @sconnell1791
    @sconnell1791 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is why you go to an attorney for your estate planning, not a computer program... And states generally have statutes that will honor wills executed in other states if they were done properly under the other state's laws. It's a good idea to update anyways, but it's not like there's nothing in place at all upon moving.

  • @doniarae-lee1203
    @doniarae-lee1203 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    That is so true some families hate each other because of money, the first time i told my eldest sister no because i realized she was taking my kindness for granted , i am now living to regret it because she stopped talking to me, our mom intervene but she still hardly speak to me only if its absolutely necessary

    • @FlutterSwag
      @FlutterSwag 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      yep, grandfather passed half a decade ago and my aunt and grandma took everything and moved 4 states away.
      its sad what happens when money changes people but you cant let it control how you respond to selfish people

    • @anndeecosita3586
      @anndeecosita3586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    • @dollargeek4016
      @dollargeek4016 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Don’t regret it. If your sister stopped talking to you because you said no to giving money, she is in the wrong, not you. She is too entitled to think she had right to your money. I would say good riddance. Wait until you have a spouse and she would still continue to beg, and then it would’ve become a huge problem for you.

    • @tyronejackson832
      @tyronejackson832 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Sounds like your sister stopped talking to you because you stopped paying her to talk to you.
      Don’t regret it.
      You made the right choice.

    • @doniarae-lee1203
      @doniarae-lee1203 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tyronejackson832 it would appear so. I never thought of it like that , i was buying a relationship

  • @momanslm6289
    @momanslm6289 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    In the absence of direct communication, you do what is best for others mentioned in the will. That is act as the executor.
    The kids were small so the kids were known. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t outline in their will who takes care of the kids while administering the money left. Once the kids reach a certain age, usually specified in the will, the kids get the money and full control of it.

  • @kelliconlan8133
    @kelliconlan8133 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People dont have integrity to tell please to their face that they are out of the will. They also want to still control or have one last dig at the person they take out of the will. Its just another power move!
    Seen it in my extended family. So sad.

    • @clarity2974
      @clarity2974 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your Mom's fault unfortunately. As she was getting older she should have given her kids more control over her things or just given you items in advance. You can't trust a man.

  • @kamo7434
    @kamo7434 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My estate plan gets reviewed annually. I'm not sure if this is how all estate attorneys work, but whatever the case it would be easy enough to contact the estate attorney and ask when the last time it was updated. If it was just last year, then I'd leave the distribution alone. If it was 10 years ago, then it would be easier to see how it might be an oversight.

  • @lindawilson4625
    @lindawilson4625 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    My guess is it was an oversight and the "kids" should get the $$$.

    • @greggpurviance7252
      @greggpurviance7252 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Unfortunately minus gift tax

    • @page76metalcraft19
      @page76metalcraft19 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't get a vote.

    • @page76metalcraft19
      @page76metalcraft19 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't get a vote

    • @daltonbrasier5491
      @daltonbrasier5491 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@greggpurviance7252 man the government really sucks.

    • @PrimateProductions
      @PrimateProductions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ok but that's just your "guess". It is just as likely that he intended for his sister and nephew to have it

  • @deepikavijai8859
    @deepikavijai8859 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave is just brilliant

  • @bryanblake8607
    @bryanblake8607 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To me a Will and insurance beneficiaries are like a business, you have to be very clear and what’s going on or things get completely messy in a heartbeat

  • @rachelm76
    @rachelm76 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah... I can't imagine this money was intended for the sister and nephew. Good reminder to me to update our beneficiaries when the kids are older or make it clear I intend the money is to care for them. Sounds like an oversight.

  • @jacobpatrick855
    @jacobpatrick855 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This seems like the worst period.
    Even the market are now very unpredictable. Started investing recently when the market prices were a bit high,today I am more than 60% down!..

    • @user-kx3ze3xq1k
      @user-kx3ze3xq1k 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don’t be confuse buying the dip in a bear market, with guaranteed future returns. Just because that company is down 60%+ from ATH does NOT make it a sound long-term investment. Make sure you’re investing in great companies. kudos to harriet alice

    • @JouhetnFmly
      @JouhetnFmly 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree just reached my goal of $500k yearly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading

    • @jacobpatrick855
      @jacobpatrick855 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please educate me, i'm willing to make consultations to improve my situation,

    • @user-kx3ze3xq1k
      @user-kx3ze3xq1k 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @PoireJulie
      @PoireJulie 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, 123k from alice harriet. , looking up to acquire a new House, blessings

  • @H..M..
    @H..M.. 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw a situation where a will was left a certain way with the stated intent that the person inheriting would pass it along to the decedent’s children. They didn’t. The kids got screwed and a step-family who was never involved got everything.

  • @MrsJohanna33
    @MrsJohanna33 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I am so glad I saw this clip because this year I opened Roth IRA's and 529 accounts for my kids in addition to their regular savings accounts. I truly want to do my best to put any little bit I can away for their future. I will be looking at private life insurance next and certainly naming them as my beneficiaries. Finally, I need to create a living will. I will take care of all of it this year. Dave Ramsey is my financial guide at this time.

    • @godfathaofyo
      @godfathaofyo 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How did you open a Roth IRA for a minor?

    • @Generali087
      @Generali087 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@godfathaofyoI mean you could open, just can't put any money in it

    • @godfathaofyo
      @godfathaofyo 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Generali087 Okay, was just making sure i wasn't missing something i can be doing to help my kids

    • @Generali087
      @Generali087 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@godfathaofyo best thing you can do is contribute to a 529 plan for your kids so they don't have student loans debt like most people calling Dave these days.

    • @angelicamichelle1646
      @angelicamichelle1646 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A trust is way easier on tax's and no lawyer fee for probate

  • @Oralist
    @Oralist 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "California Law is Granola based" - Dave Ramsey 😅

  • @MW-xm1rc
    @MW-xm1rc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My single godfather uncle died and left his money to me. I was 6. His brothers and sisters made such a stink that my dad divided the money and gave it to them. They rarely talked to us after that. I am sure because they were embarrassed and didn’t like seeing me.

  • @pynk1887
    @pynk1887 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it was left to the aunt and her eldest son, life insurance policies are paid for yearly and can be changed at anytime.

  • @Louie_V71
    @Louie_V71 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would love to get an update on this one. What did they decide to do?

  • @redessa01
    @redessa01 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Louisiana law is waaaay different... 🤣🤣🤣 My parents died in Louisiana. They moved there after I was already married and I never lived there. I did not have the first clue about their inheritance laws. It was an experience to say the least!

  • @stephengamber7000
    @stephengamber7000 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    "You're not entitled to anything because you're kin"

  • @stevedennison9443
    @stevedennison9443 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When my children were young the Will provided them inheritance at age thirty. Why? Because most - the geat majority - of young adults will go and blow it all on frivolus things.
    Most 30 year olds and up have hopefully matured enough, have a family, or are starting a family, and therefore, the natural incentives for them change.
    Also, GREAT Will / Estate wisdom especially from 6:50 to 7:10!
    Do you have the guts to do that, or are you going to wimp out and let someone else - the Executor - take the blame?
    I did that representing my wife after she went Home to be with the Lord and, yes, me. Up until we had our Will updated, we had a notarized document conveying leaving one of our children out of the Will. Once the Will was updated, I had my attorney send each one of the children a copy of the Will & Trusts along with a letter that explained why the one child was left out at this point in the hope that they would wake up and make changes in their lives so that they could get a part of the inheritance.
    It's not easy, but as Dave Ramsey essentially states, it's the right thing to do!

  • @jennhowe834
    @jennhowe834 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it depends on the amount. If the aunt were to have tax consequences from gifting a lump sum, it may have to be distributed over several years, if at all.

  • @ericeandco
    @ericeandco 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s your money! You and your oldest son are the legal beneficiaries. You can’t just sign it over without big tax implications. You should see an experienced estate attorney that is well versed in tax. Some attorneys are also CPA’s. Just make sure you stay informed and in control. Maybe I’d set up trusts for all the kids and remain executor. Hire professionals as needed and keep on top if results.

  • @Ddccpp2152
    @Ddccpp2152 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "Granola based" 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mwathani1
    @mwathani1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    You're not entitled anything just because we're kin.

  • @KitCatForever777
    @KitCatForever777 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please also remember, the will does not change who the beneficiary is. After you divorce or the death of a spouse, change your will and your beneficiary with the life insurance company.

  • @lisanixon9284
    @lisanixon9284 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would consider their age and maturity. If mea t for them, set it up in a trust to be released at certain age with quarterly annuity until of age.

  • @panerdar
    @panerdar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would look at the whole picture. If the kids were old enough and responsible, I would sign it over to them. If they were not, I would put it in a trust or whatever worked best so it would support them as long as possible.

  • @2K_Unlimited
    @2K_Unlimited 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "house, car, IRA, etc." in context of the letter is clearly "Theirs" and should be given to them, but I suspect that's not in question due to the clear background that the children "were" minors when the will was written.
    If he died before and I were given assets to help care for them when they were minors, as they became responsible adults I would find a way to give them the unused assets. This could be difficult before his youngest child matures, yadda, yadda.
    My point is, they are already adults, so the hard part is moot. Whatever part of the will seems to be intended for the children, as you say, I would give to them as the expected intent of my brother who was never good at keeping his affairs and wishes legally updated, yet we always knew his heart was true.

  • @YTBoof
    @YTBoof 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even with a Will,, families still get destroyed over money. I had to deal with it

  • @michellewinkler3985
    @michellewinkler3985 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can only "gift" a certain amount of money per year, per the IRS. You may want to "gift" the money each year (the max) until the funds are exhausted. Consult a estate attorney before any funds are distrubuted.

  • @6by6by6
    @6by6by6 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Went through something like this with my sister regarding my father’s wishes for the dividing of his farm estate, my sister had left the farm at 18 and I stayed and worked alongside my father while starting and building my own farming business separate of my father.. when he passed unexpectedly it was revealed that his entire estate go to myself except for half of the value of his estate at the time my sister left the farm at 18 and that was a stated value on the will.. my sister tried arguing that my father hadn’t anticipated the growth in value his estate might gain and had he known he was dying he would have rewritten the will to reflect that.. Being the named executive of his estate I simply followed his instructions and told he she could blame him for not being more diligent in his thinking when she met up with him in the after life… Heirs & beneficiaries are not responsible for interpreting their parents writings or making moral judgments about them.. Sorry not sorry but death is just another business and sometimes isn’t fair..

    • @parkburrets4054
      @parkburrets4054 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Joel Salatin writes about the kids who stay and work the farm are probably the right ones to inherit the whole farm.

  • @kelli2152
    @kelli2152 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let’s not forget, even if your kids are under age, you can still name them as “beneficiary”. The fact that the deceased did not name them as beneficiary of the insurance policy, yet passed all the other things to them like the house and car…says it was intentional.

  • @florencejones7802
    @florencejones7802 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    You should have nothing to say about your son’s part of the money.

  • @katelynbendinsky5080
    @katelynbendinsky5080 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In this case, it does sound like an oversight. I would give the money to them.

  • @lkj0822g
    @lkj0822g 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A lot of people do not realize that insurance and certain financial accounts that have named beneficiaries do not fall under the purview of the probate process. State laws vary, but it is possible to name the estate or a trust as a beneficiary. However, naming the estate as the beneficiary can open a can of worms if there are creditors seeking money from the estate. All debts must be settled before the probate process distributes remaining proceeds to the heirs.
    If I thought my sister and brother-in-law made an oversight, I would give the money to the heirs of the estate. If the funds have already been paid out, there may be taxation issues when they try to give the proceeds to the heirs. To me, it also depends on whether or not the heirs have been disrespectful during this process. I might just tell them to pound sand or the contrarian in me would say to cut them a check and then issue them a 1099, LOL.

  • @darciefoerster4877
    @darciefoerster4877 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They would havementioned it in conversation or will. If not, keep it

  • @blueyedevil3479
    @blueyedevil3479 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If this was all an oversight, how is it that the children still get “an IRA, house, vehicle, etc …?” They’re clearly noted in the will, if that were the case…
    Also, when was this will completed signed, dated, and notarize??

    • @anndeecosita3586
      @anndeecosita3586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because this was a life insurance policy which is separate from a will. I inherited an IRA, bank accounts and a life insurance policy from a relative who didn’t have a will but had named me as beneficiary. No need to go through courts or probate for that. I just needed to send them death certificates and prove who I was.

  • @tl411
    @tl411 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They need to have the attorney investigate as to when was the beneficiary last updated. I have policy that I have to affirm this data every year. If it was recently affirmed than the money was intended for the person who received it. Also, was there a will or did the parent ever discuss this with the recreants. Sounds like the children were still left plenty so this must have been enough to go around and this was intended as indicated.

  • @cynthiawaldorf9353
    @cynthiawaldorf9353 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I understand what John's thinking, but the gentleman never said this was left to him Because the children were immature minors. He said he thought it was left to him because the children were still minors period! so if that's the case it should go to the children period! and he's just him hawing around, When he knows his brother's wishes, I'm sure his brother talked to him about this. You can't assume anything. This gentleman was very clear about what he thought this was for and never mentioned that the children were immature demanding or doing bad things. Nothing like that was mentioned at all by this gentleman and i'm sure it would have been if the children were misbehaving because of his hymn hawing around in whether he should keep the money or give it to the children. The children probably just asked for it. their parents could have mentioned this to the children and just forgot to change it on the insurance.That's a possibility too.

  • @user-sl4ke3de1n
    @user-sl4ke3de1n 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If my step mother made a new will, dad’s family would not have gotten anything. My dad added her two adult children so we all get 1/5. He told us that. It was his lifetime and his resources. His wife died three years later. I think it was unexpected.

  • @dwatson4
    @dwatson4 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A question not asked here…how important is the relationship to you with the children of the deceased? Do you want to continue having a relationship with the living or the dead? If you don’t care about family get togethers at Christmas and thanksgiving, if you want animosity towards you from that side of the family, keep the money. It is my guess that when someone makes you a beneficiary of an insurance policy there is usually a conversation between the parties. Have the conditions of that conversation been met? There is also the question of tax liability when you gift your legal money to another. You may want to look at the best possible way to transfer the money with the least amount of tax loss.

  • @PAHighlander24
    @PAHighlander24 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I moved to another state last year and had a new will done even though the will I had in the last state was only 2 yrs old.

  • @KENTUCKYUSA1
    @KENTUCKYUSA1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There are two beneficiaries here and her son may not be willing to forego his half of the proceeds, in which case, this becomes more complicated.
    Also we have no idea how much money is involved.
    Aunt needs to get tax advice also as she can't just give this money over without tax implications. There are estate implications here also.

  • @TheBeagle1956
    @TheBeagle1956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We made it very clear in our trust that anyone who challenges it gets nothing. We’ve talked to the kids so they know what we want to do. We have a corporate trustee to ensure it’s carried out as we intend. Our attorney has power to fire the trustee if there are problems. Our kids know all this and we’ll remind them every few years. 😊

  • @thedicehavespoken6234
    @thedicehavespoken6234 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing that makes me think it wasn't an oversight is that it was left to the writer AND their oldest son. There's not enough context other than that for us to even make a judgment, despite the hard stance some of the other commenters are taking.
    Ultimately we can't know what the situation is like. Maybe they didn't get along with their kids. Maybe their kids are all delinquents or drug addicts. We don't know.

  • @jameshorton7496
    @jameshorton7496 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the will says that money went to you, it's yours. If you think that the money should go to the kids, and you don't need it, then let them have it.

  • @brianellinger6622
    @brianellinger6622 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    these ganster ppl need to stop... they need to go away,....
    how in i help you get this and these crooks to stop,.....

  • @creature57
    @creature57 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you hand over any money, make sure you give them something to sign to say there is no more money coming to them after this. This is it.

  • @Kseb1212
    @Kseb1212 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What happens if you live in two different states?

  • @RustySpike007
    @RustySpike007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Dave, can you will me your Raptor? 😝

  • @badlydrawnfox113
    @badlydrawnfox113 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They even said they thought it was an oversight... It should be a no brainer.

  • @dianebalch5369
    @dianebalch5369 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not worth it. Goodness, I hope that they'll give the money to the kids. People get their angriest about money. And the anger lasts FOREVER! Sad but true. Blood means SO much more than money that is here today and gone tomorrow. I'm older and have seen this all my life.

  • @therealmvp232
    @therealmvp232 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    She knows that $$ was meant for their kids. I guarantee she will keep it

  • @ajalicea1091
    @ajalicea1091 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You Dave for being sooo insitfull; taking care of business in all aspects; personal and business.
    Like you said, who ever passed does not update their WILL, last testament, those who feel like they are entitled, need to get MAD at that person.
    I know from experience. Nothing I could do, pray to the Lord for wisdom and help me to forgive. The excitor was the one who came to me and said that my family member had left me some money. Instead I received NOTHING.
    Heard from the grapevine that the excitor feels that I deserve NOTHING. Gave it ALL to their blood family.

  • @samuelmoijueh2030
    @samuelmoijueh2030 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    The lady knows the money belongs to the kids. Do the right thing

  • @CarlaQuattlebaum
    @CarlaQuattlebaum 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know Dave says you should let all involved know about the will, even the ones who will not receive anything. That just might accelerate the date the will is read, though 😟. I mean, like he said, people will be pissed off, and I guess you have to be brave enough to endure that instead of having the pissed off people mad at the executor.

    • @daisy9910
      @daisy9910 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Our lawyer advised we write a letter to anyone left out of the will that then is only delivered after we die. It specifically states why they were left out. It also means they can't contest the will as easily.

  • @knottheory79220
    @knottheory79220 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even if I wanted to give it back, I'd consult an attorney. There could be a good or bad way to do this, and there could be tax consequences you don't anticipate.

  • @Run4Ever77
    @Run4Ever77 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    John, they inherited a bunch of other assets, so your scenario of them wanting you to "protect" their adult children doesn't add up. If that was truly the case, they would have set up "protection" for the kids with all the other assets.

    • @OopThereItIs77777
      @OopThereItIs77777 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Not even close. That does not happen all the time.

    • @AlexPerazaTV
      @AlexPerazaTV 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      John Delony is a moron.

    • @neeciiw7840
      @neeciiw7840 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts I just set up one of these for my son🙏🏾