Well numbers of woke are often very "educated", and wrong about everything🤷. Religious, and lefty, nutters are both sadly similar, and there's waaay too many of both of them.
@@TH-camhater17 Granted, though it's an apples and oranges situation. There are, of course, "highly educated" nutters on both sides of the political divide who arrive at those positions by various means. I was referring only to a formalized religious indoctrination that inculcates children with ideas that are foundationally erroneous. But thanks for your distractive "whataboutism" and "bothsidesism" that helps to muddy the waters and obscure the original point.
@@martin2289 To refuse "whataboutism", and "bothsiedsism", is a major factor in the increasingly divisive political polarity the U.S. has deteriorated into. Sadly, you're not alone. Any conversation will inevitably incur comparison, and to relegate and denigrate that with some construct "ism" catch- phrase is stupid. Assuming you oppose Trump, I guaranteeyour position as argued will be rife with "whataboutisms" at least.
It’s worth pointing out that “the serpent” was never equated to Satan until Milton’s popular Christian fan fiction Paradise Lost had that as a plot point. Now all Christians just take it for granted that it wasn’t the actual snake, but Satan.
@@leescott3138 Yes, but eventually “the Satan” became a figure on God’s counsel as a kind of devil’s advocate (ironically before demons were even introduced into the religion). Lucifer is the name of a king unrelated to that figure.
This one is gold, thanks. I think that Jill will really struggle to get past her bias and engage with the argument but I hope you have her back on because there may be hope for her.
Is so funny how is going over her head. She is a perfect example that when talk to Christian fanatics, they do not listen. Do she think she is going to convert someone like that? 😂
Spanky tows you if you double park around my home. It is a physical manifestation of Spanky’s undeniable power as it was foretold in the great book of Spanky. Yet to see any of “Yahweh towing” out there.
Somebody please fill me in on this spanky thing. The only Spanky I know about is Spanky Macfarlen from the Little Rascals. Really this is not the first time that I've seen it.
You shouldn’t have let her off the hook when you asked that question about what god told Moses not to do! She had absolutely no idea what it was and would have kept fumbling around but you gave her the answer 😂 I suspect it’s just to keep the conversation going and not get too confrontational, or maybe because you’re a teacher it just comes natural to help people when they’re confused. But it would be so nice to just completely out them for knowing absolutely nothing about the topic they’re so confidently talking about lol
Why do so many people think that Satan was the snake in the garden of Eden? The character Satan wasn’t invented until several hundred years after Genesis was written. Funny listening to two people talking about the Bible who don’t understand the basics.
I think it started with the idea of "satan" = antagonist. Your satan could be anyone around you as long as their actions/words are meant to oppose you. Then you've got the idea that lucifer, the angel who didn't want to be below humans in the heirarchy and so started a rebellion is a satan/opposer. From there, you have to handle the dissonance between a supposedly all loving god that punishes every snake for the crime of saying "i don't think you'll really die" to the first humans. Because the expectation is that things must be black or white/good and evil (and humans the special third option of evil but can be cleansed to be good), the snake has to have been acting in malice, and thus be a satan, and the only name they associate with satan is the fallen angel. So honestly, i get the confusion, and most times it's easier to just grant them that minor thing from being told both what to think and move on to the next point.
It's a common athiest talking point, that the Bible was modified after the fact. Christianity us just made up so can you be wrong with making up more stuff?
The basics? I don’t think you need even basic knowledge of the Bible to understand it isn’t authoritatively a historical document. Changing a bit of the lore will neither convince a believer of atheism nor an atheist of belief. This is like quibbling over the plot point of a Star Wars movie.
@@rsjcoman9230If we were to poll christians most would say that the snake was Satan. Most christians has not read the bible and knows almost nothing about what it says.
I'd be suspicious of anyone with that tone of voice and aggression on literally any subject, even if they were factually correct. Imagine if this conversation were reversed and Jill was talking with Erics tone and cadence and visa versa. I'd know Jill is factually wrong, but I'd be hard to get past Eric's approach in that case...
Offensive stupidity is a thing. That said, Peterson does a lot of debates on these subjects, and the amount of aggressive, ignorant, and downright hateful callers he gets is the reason he has developed a no-bs attitude toward ignorant statements and questions. Ignorance does not grant one a free pass to civility, particularly when one's positions actively cause harm, such as the belief in the Christian god.
Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
Spanky is the victim
It is not a crime
@@gowdsake7103wooshhh...
It's a victimless
In some places it is.@@gowdsake7103
“Nailed to a boomerang” 😂😂😂😂😂
That one gave me a choking fit, that'll teach me to be eating while Eric is laying the smack down!!!
Imagine going through life with a Sunday school education and being fractally wrong about absolutely everything.
"Fractally wrong"
I LIKE IT!! 👍👍
she couldnt even tell us what moses was told to and not to do
Well numbers of woke are often very "educated", and wrong about everything🤷. Religious, and lefty, nutters are both sadly similar, and there's waaay too many of both of them.
@@TH-camhater17 Granted, though it's an apples and oranges situation. There are, of course, "highly educated" nutters on both sides of the political divide who arrive at those positions by various means. I was referring only to a formalized religious indoctrination that inculcates children with ideas that are foundationally erroneous. But thanks for your distractive "whataboutism" and "bothsidesism" that helps to muddy the waters and obscure the original point.
@@martin2289 To refuse "whataboutism", and "bothsiedsism", is a major factor in the increasingly divisive political polarity the U.S. has deteriorated into. Sadly, you're not alone. Any conversation will inevitably incur comparison, and to relegate and denigrate that with some construct "ism" catch- phrase is stupid. Assuming you oppose Trump, I guaranteeyour position as argued will be rife with "whataboutisms" at least.
Grandma needs to lay off the sauce
It’s worth pointing out that “the serpent” was never equated to Satan until Milton’s popular Christian fan fiction Paradise Lost had that as a plot point. Now all Christians just take it for granted that it wasn’t the actual snake, but Satan.
Correct. And Satan never originally referred to Lucifer, but rather any person or group of persons considered to be an enemy
@@leescott3138 Yes, but eventually “the Satan” became a figure on God’s counsel as a kind of devil’s advocate (ironically before demons were even introduced into the religion). Lucifer is the name of a king unrelated to that figure.
At least Spanky seen real.
The point is like spinning around her head non-stop, even has it's own song by now for the trip as it keeps flying over her head.
16:20 cats getting people united
Wtf why did it end at such an unexpectedly wholesome note
Cuz most of these people are super nice they just have totally messed up beliefs
@@planetpeterson2824 if only they accepted our lord and saviour Spanky their lives would be saved 🙏
I don't know. I mean, I've seen him at least...
I need a sign!
Spanky, are you the creator? 🤨
that shit was hilarious
The „Boomerang“ was just EPIC😂😂😂😂
This one is gold, thanks.
I think that Jill will really struggle to get past her bias and engage with the argument but I hope you have her back on because there may be hope for her.
All hail Spanky!! The one true lord!!
Spanky's first commandment:
Spank for Spanky. For all have benn naughty in the eyes of Spanky.
every knee shall bow to spanky!
This has been another fun episode of my favorite program "Counting centuries and millenia with Planet Peterson"
theres over 60+ volcanic eruptions annually
Great thumbnail haha.
11:45 THE IRONY HAHAHAHAHA!
She sounds like she and her 70 cats are shareholders of Planet Express.
12:36 hil satan.
..and spanky...
Satan. The infamous good guy.
Point to one wrong thing he did.
@@ThatGuy-6669 he told Eva to eat the"Appel"....and we got wise..
Speaking out of both sides of her mouth must be easy with no teeth
Lol boom
She is NOT ok. 🫣
I like this Ned Flanders approach
(I'm referring to the Treehouse of Horror episode where Ned is Satan "The One You Least Suspect)
She missed the irony 😅
"Did the romans nail him to the boomerang" Lmao I'm too high for this
"Make Spanky talk!"
...lol the irony...
NOOOOOOO I thought this was my aunt for a second. Someone's I hate my family.....
Is so funny how is going over her head. She is a perfect example that when talk to Christian fanatics, they do not listen. Do she think she is going to convert someone like that? 😂
You’re a funny person keep it up 👍
boomerang lol, that was really funny
3:45
The Serpent was not Satan.
This video was comedy gold 😂😂
Oh yeah and the sixties rock group Spanky and the gang.
The thumbnail for this made me lol before i even started the video
Just imagine that Jill can vote and get children. Scary thought.
These thumbnails are getting blasphemously good 👍
I have mad cat Plushie who seen more real by my eyes.
I love the Spanky debates
She thinks pokemon is real.
I can smell the lead paint on her breath.
Look it up....but also look it down
I feel so sorry for her children smh 😔
Spanky tows you if you double park around my home. It is a physical manifestation of Spanky’s undeniable power as it was foretold in the great book of Spanky. Yet to see any of “Yahweh towing” out there.
Have you ever seen a talking snake?
I almost had an aneurysm listening to her
Well she didn't fall for the tree of knowledge thing at least.
Somebody please fill me in on this spanky thing. The only Spanky I know about is Spanky Macfarlen from the Little Rascals. Really this is not the first time that I've seen it.
But Satan didn't 'slither up to' Adam and Eve. Snakes had legs then. Apparently.
Thank Spanky!
she is very pleasant
So Christ like
What's with the echo on her voice? Does she have some FX stack going on?
I am glad I live on the other side of the Earth than Jill
Do you think jesus likes Spanky?
spanky is the real lord and savior jesus is just a prophet
This lady is actually insane
This woman needs to drink less.
This is clearly a troll with a voice changer.
what a ridiculous human being
You cant breathalyze for meth.
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
What?!
You shouldn’t have let her off the hook when you asked that question about what god told Moses not to do! She had absolutely no idea what it was and would have kept fumbling around but you gave her the answer 😂
I suspect it’s just to keep the conversation going and not get too confrontational, or maybe because you’re a teacher it just comes natural to help people when they’re confused. But it would be so nice to just completely out them for knowing absolutely nothing about the topic they’re so confidently talking about lol
All hail spanky the one true creator.
What gets me is that "god" is CLEARLY the bad guy. If he did or does exist then he's obviously the bad guy and "satan" is the good guy.
Sounds like a voice changer
If you just agree with her, she and paw mite hook you up with some moonshine boy howdy
god is good but need to be feared, dont they see the contradiction? Apparently not.
Gosh, who else have I heard bad arguments like the ones Jill was spewing? Oh that's right, Muslims
Why do so many people think that Satan was the snake in the garden of Eden? The character Satan wasn’t invented until several hundred years after Genesis was written. Funny listening to two people talking about the Bible who don’t understand the basics.
I think it started with the idea of "satan" = antagonist. Your satan could be anyone around you as long as their actions/words are meant to oppose you.
Then you've got the idea that lucifer, the angel who didn't want to be below humans in the heirarchy and so started a rebellion is a satan/opposer.
From there, you have to handle the dissonance between a supposedly all loving god that punishes every snake for the crime of saying "i don't think you'll really die" to the first humans. Because the expectation is that things must be black or white/good and evil (and humans the special third option of evil but can be cleansed to be good), the snake has to have been acting in malice, and thus be a satan, and the only name they associate with satan is the fallen angel.
So honestly, i get the confusion, and most times it's easier to just grant them that minor thing from being told both what to think and move on to the next point.
It's a common athiest talking point, that the Bible was modified after the fact. Christianity us just made up so can you be wrong with making up more stuff?
Most Christians for the first millennium believed the snake was Lilith
The basics?
I don’t think you need even basic knowledge of the Bible to understand it isn’t authoritatively a historical document. Changing a bit of the lore will neither convince a believer of atheism nor an atheist of belief.
This is like quibbling over the plot point of a Star Wars movie.
@@rsjcoman9230If we were to poll christians most would say that the snake was Satan. Most christians has not read the bible and knows almost nothing about what it says.
Another person who thinks that asking dumb questions will disprove evolution.
I dont like how our lord and savoir is touched in this Thumbnail. Why does jesus puts hands on him😡
I'd be suspicious of anyone with that tone of voice and aggression on literally any subject, even if they were factually correct.
Imagine if this conversation were reversed and Jill was talking with Erics tone and cadence and visa versa.
I'd know Jill is factually wrong, but I'd be hard to get past Eric's approach in that case...
Oh the irony of her feeling so smug about asking Spanky to talk and Spanky not talking back!
Offensive stupidity is a thing. That said, Peterson does a lot of debates on these subjects, and the amount of aggressive, ignorant, and downright hateful callers he gets is the reason he has developed a no-bs attitude toward ignorant statements and questions. Ignorance does not grant one a free pass to civility, particularly when one's positions actively cause harm, such as the belief in the Christian god.
Hail Spanky 👿