The Pokémon Iceberg: A Deeper Look

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  • Join me as I talk my way through the Pokémon iceberg, with my own personal anecdotes, opinions, and theories behind the many strange and mysterious points this iceberg has to offer!
    TIMESTAMPS + SONG TITLES
    LONG INTRO - 00:00:00 Ash's theme - Pokemon Puzzle League
    SURFACE LEVEL - 00:03:02 Erika's theme - Pokemon Puzzle League
    BELOW THE SURFACE - 00:25:58 Tracy's theme - Pokemon Puzzle League
    BOTTOM OF THE ICEBERG - 00:46:09 Ritchie's theme - Pokemon Puzzle League
    THE DEPTHS - 01:11:02 Lorelei's theme - pokemon puzzle league
    THE ABYSS - 01:29:32 Team Rocket's theme - pokemon Puzzle league
    OUTRO - 01:47:13 Ending Theme - Super Mario 64
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  • @ChatookaMusic
    @ChatookaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    "for some reason I let my infant chew on a toy PokeBall and it choked to death. Clearly this is your fault"

    • @JMeisterV
      @JMeisterV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True

    • @Mewtwo_150
      @Mewtwo_150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      They didn't even choke on it
      Apparently it got suck on their mouths and nose and somehow that killed an infant...
      A) How the actual fuck did it get stuck on their mouth AND nose?!
      B) You didn't do shit to... I don't know... PULL IT OFF?!

    • @juiceecads3894
      @juiceecads3894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      i can see how a plastic pokeball can get stuck over a baby's mouth and nose if the baby started trying to suck on it (bc that's what infants do with unfamiliar objects), but you'd think that someone would've gone "hey, maybe we shouldn't give this small hard plastic object to the baby because it could suffocate itself" before it actually happens. like, it's common damn sense. don't give babies choking hazards, and especially don't leave them alone with them.
      also i looked it up and this even happened three times. first being the one referred to where the pokeball was in an unattended baby's playpen, second where a parent was there to stop their toddler from dying when it happened, and the third when someone had the genius idea of putting half a pokeball in a 4-month-old's crib

    • @ChatookaMusic
      @ChatookaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@juiceecads3894 and my absolute favorite part is the parents don't think "oh shit I really fucked up" they think "CLEARLY THIS TOY WAS DESIGNED TO KILL MY CHILD I'M SUING"

    • @almond3066
      @almond3066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Like, did they just toss their newborn a few random fast food toys and leave the room?
      I honestly cannot think of another way this scenario could have played out that makes them not be terrible parents
      There's a reason why they make toys specifically made for babies, you don't go out buying digimon for a two month old

  • @Aotearoajin
    @Aotearoajin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    There is a theory that fossil Pokemon have all had their secondary types replaced with rock because they were fossilized, meaning that before Kabutop and Kabutops went through the fossilization/resurrection process they had a good chance of being water-bug types. Genesect being revived by a different method may have meant it kept the other type.

    • @f.calamo6658
      @f.calamo6658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Or they became stell type because G Team turned them into cyborgs abusing their hability.

    • @topherlangford
      @topherlangford 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      that's not a theory, that's cannon. about the fossils i mean

    • @adriangonzalez3600
      @adriangonzalez3600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kabuto is a trilobite which is a ocean rolly-polly/pill-bug, so this makes sense.
      Maybe Genesect is what happens when you unfossilize a full sized Kabutops instead of the unevolved Kabuto when you use evil mechagodzilla tech?

    • @machina188
      @machina188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      My favorite fan theory is that Charizard is fire type because it breathes fire

    • @Aotearoajin
      @Aotearoajin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@machina188 that one was confirmed, courteously by the move “stealth rock”

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I love how most Pokégods look either like Pokémon that could exist or are photoshopped/reskins of existing Pokémon and then Flareth is literally just Ridley from Metroid

    • @frederickbingley6699
      @frederickbingley6699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Right! Mega-Evolutions are the new PokeGods

    • @MetaFanWing
      @MetaFanWing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Poor guy took a wrong turn at Tallon IV and ended up in Kanto. He still thinks he’s on the right track to find Samus and the baby Metroid.

  • @PorcelainRequiem
    @PorcelainRequiem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +444

    It's worth noting that the original Pokémon beta does have an unused backsprite for an evolved Marowak who carries a Cubone in the pouch. So there is definitely something to that Cubone and Kangaskhan theory.

    • @bewill5121
      @bewill5121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think that sort of debunks the kangaskhan theory, because kangaskhan was one of the first pokemon created, it's index #2 in the files of red + blue. So it seems extremely likely to me that Kangaskhan and the Marowak evolution co-existed during development

    • @PorcelainRequiem
      @PorcelainRequiem 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bewill5121, one of the glitch Pokémon evolves into Kangaskhan. And there's enough evidence to suggest it was an idea at some point in development. Rhydon was the first Pokémon ever made and it has a pre-evolved form, so it doesn't matter when the Pokémon were developed.

    • @bewill5121
      @bewill5121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glitch pokemon evolving into normal pokemon doesn't mean anything. Glitch pokemon are the game reading different unrelated code as if they're pokemon, which is why the sprites, stats and movepools seem so random, but at the same time you notice a lot of recurring moves in the movepools, because some instructions and pieces of data are a lot more common in programming than others. The fact that there's a glitch pokemon that's very similar to Gengar but with access to Spore certainly does not mean Gengar was ever planned to have Spore. I'm not sure what rhyhorn has to do with anything either. I guess it does make sense that they could have made kanga as a marowak evolution, scrapped that and made kanga standalone, then scrapped the marowak evolution

    • @Skoldpadden
      @Skoldpadden 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bewill5121it's not unrelated code though, it pulls from Pokémon that aren't there, from ID 152(after mew) to 256. It's part of the same reason some missing no can be transferred to Gen 2 and turn into a proper Gen 2 pokemon

    • @bewill5121
      @bewill5121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Skoldpadden it is very much unrelated code. The area in memory after the pokemon that do exist wasn't left unused, it's used for other parts of the game. some of the glitch pokemon even start to take their data from RAM, meaning their levelup learnsets, evolutions, etc are determined by data you can change, which is certainly not something ever intended by the game developers for any pokemon.

  • @APlusProds
    @APlusProds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Those red lines on Machoke are stretch marks... Stretch marks are soft tissue (skin in this case), where the soft tissue expands too quickly (due to muscle growth, fat gain, pregnancy, etc…), and then tightens again after stretching out.
    An example to visualize the concept of stretch marking; imagine blowing a balloon to a really large size, but before popping it, you let all the air out. The air filling up the balloon stretches the rubber, and if you observe the deflated balloon, it has ripples in it after trying to mimic its original shape prior to stretching out, which are essentially “stretch marks” resembling the scars in skin after pregnancy, weight loss, or rapid muscle growth.
    In the case of Machoke; Machop, it’s pre-evolution, has small muscles. Machoke gains a lot of muscle quickly when it evolves (since evolution happens at an instant) which gives the Pokémon stretch marks as this muscle hypothetically grows at the time it levels up and evolves, and then by the time Machoke eventually evolves in a trade, the stretch marks heal and fade when it evolves into Machamp.
    Another story all together, but the energy it takes to evolve probably is what heals the, now, Machamp’s scars. As it only heals once it evolves. Much like how Caterpie “evolves” into a cocoon Pokémon, Metapod, and then blossoms into a butterfly, Butterfree, but changes physically or molts said cocoon during evolution only in the same way a Pokémon could heal from its “design” injuries during evolution.

    • @JohnDoe-er4oi
      @JohnDoe-er4oi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh my god, thank you for clearing this up. Before I even read this comment, I knew that the skin breaking open theory was bs

    • @kuwabarastarr
      @kuwabarastarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why I love him

    • @bruh-mb1rd
      @bruh-mb1rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love that he has stretchmarks

    • @bcl3341
      @bcl3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've always seen them as veins

  • @TheKingOfRooks
    @TheKingOfRooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    1:11:04 If Primeape can learn Iron Tail without a tail then what is he slapping you with.... *OH NO*

    • @CoolerMike
      @CoolerMike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Gonna use that front tail then

    • @TweezersUnlimited
      @TweezersUnlimited 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Penicular Pound

    • @rainbowdash8003
      @rainbowdash8003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I mastered Iron Tail without a tail! And do you know what that means?

    • @damianblu
      @damianblu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Legends say that Hypno can use the move too. Only once you’ve been hypnotized though

    • @holey5065
      @holey5065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      iron butt?

  • @jasperl.8216
    @jasperl.8216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    19:00 I love that scene, because of the context:
    Diglett got rescued by you, after getting lost on Steel Mountain, and after defeating the boss, Skarmony, who didn't let Diglett go or something, you realize that you cant get Diglett across a cliff seperated you and Diglett. So, the Megnetmites you helped earlier carry it across the cliff.
    It skips to your base (see timestamp), and after Diglett states that "It's feet still feel like there walking on air", your partner says "(Feet...?)", and the Magnemites say "(FEET? HE HAS THEM?)", as if they didnt carry that thing in the air just now

    • @brycemallumakopp
      @brycemallumakopp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes! That game has a number of memorable moments for me, that being one of the top ones.

    • @lancelaurel3828
      @lancelaurel3828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nonnnom mommy

    • @pckyart
      @pckyart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      FEET? HE HAS THEM? is the funniest thing ever it’s been an inside joke for me for YEARS

  • @amwolfmusic
    @amwolfmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    For hall of origin it's because they believed it would have been too *confusing* for players to do.
    Yeah because catching the Regis in gen 3 was laid out super clearly

    • @cwcpants140
      @cwcpants140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That sucked bro. Wailord, using flash after doing super specific sequences of steps…. Jesus lmao shits amusing.

    • @machina188
      @machina188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was though, the instructions were written on the wall lol

    • @amwolfmusic
      @amwolfmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@machina188 if you didn't know braille, have access to the internet, or access to the instruction booklet what then?

    • @machina188
      @machina188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amwolfmusic I just asked my dad what it was and he was like "Oh that's braille". Then I went to my school library the next day to google it. Braille is pretty much common knowledge for adults.

    • @machina188
      @machina188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But yeah if you and all of your friends and family didn't know what braille was, you had no internet access, didn't have the instruction booklet, and your school didn't have a library, I guess you'd have trouble.

  • @johnofonett8036
    @johnofonett8036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    59:00 I believe the “Unobtainable Arceus” point is referring to the Arceus you were supposed to encounter when using the Azure Flute (before the distribution of the item was cancelled). If you hack the Azure Flute into the game, it’s still fully functional and lets you catch a Level 70 Arceus, so it was probably taking about that.

    • @HugeMamamia44291
      @HugeMamamia44291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It is still obtainable using the void glitch,surprised "the void glitch" was not on here.

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It was Level 80, actually. I really wish it was at least Level 90 (to 100) though tbh because it’s literally the God Pokémon!

    • @chris-fp1hl
      @chris-fp1hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lmao I didnt realize you could actually do that with hacks. I thought it was another one of those school yard rumors that went around back then lol

    • @chris-fp1hl
      @chris-fp1hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HugeMamamia44291 its been years since ive heard about that glitch. Ah the memories. I didnt realize you could get arceus thru that tho?

    • @milesbarnes6777
      @milesbarnes6777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HugeMamamia44291 I first knew of the void glitch through speedrunning 🤣

  • @Net_15
    @Net_15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1432

    Missigno isnt there and i like that. Everyone knows about him already

    • @sirincompetent758
      @sirincompetent758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      No, it's because he's missing!

    • @FightEcke
      @FightEcke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Missingno is probably more popular than many actual pokemon

    • @sirincompetent758
      @sirincompetent758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@FightEcke bro you ever heard of pikachu?
      edit: oops! i read something wrong and died

    • @therealbensoule652
      @therealbensoule652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      whats missingno

    • @mtill7281
      @mtill7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      27:02
      He is there though...

  • @DeathScyther006
    @DeathScyther006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    When it comes to the "Raichu evolved" text, you have to remember that the English Red and Blue games are based on Japanese Pokemon Blue which was basically a patched version of Japanese Red and Green. In Japanese Red/Green you trade Raichu for Electrode, but in Japanese Blue you trade away a Kadabra (which is a trade evolution.) In the US release of the game, they keep the Red/Green trade requirement, but use the Blue version text that reads "Your (Pokemon) went and evolved."

  • @TheWisdomGod
    @TheWisdomGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    The concept of cubone not evolving into kangaskan can be easily explained. Look to examples such as slowpoke. Where the introduction of an item can change its evolution line. The skull could act as a item for a specific evolution.

    • @vivictinimoved
      @vivictinimoved 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      or it could be similar to friendship evos

    • @Hex.A.Decimal
      @Hex.A.Decimal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or the weapon. Thick Club.

  • @THAT_GUY119
    @THAT_GUY119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    First pokemon ever designed: rydon
    first pokemon to exist in the universe: arceus
    First pokemon in the pokedex: bulbasaur
    First pokemon to apear in the anime intro: mew

    • @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035
      @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Technically in the japanese version, the First Pokémon to appear in the opening was Charizard iirc

    • @THAT_GUY119
      @THAT_GUY119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@yagofazcoisaseuacho8035really well my comment isn’t in japanese so cant you infer i am talking about the English anime think mark think

    • @slaps1455
      @slaps1455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There’s an entry stated that all Pokémon are ancestors of mew

    • @coolerthanyou9548
      @coolerthanyou9548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@slaps1455 the pokedex entry isnt even where that info comes form, its literally the plotline of the first pokemon movie, mew didnt appear officially in games till gen 2, there wasnt even a #151 in the dex in r/b/y
      mew is the ancestor of all modern pokemon, and Giovanni wanted to create the ultimate pokemon by cloning mew

    • @LaztheLax
      @LaztheLax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@THAT_GUY119 lmfao....

  • @gabbo7101
    @gabbo7101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    30:50 the idea of normal animals existing in the pokemon universe is more of an early idea in the series that ended up being retconned. In gen 1 and 2 (especially gen 1) it is heavily implied that pokemon are a new discovery and turns out theyve existed for a long time. In gen 2 the idea of normal animals existing still exists, its just a tad more downplayed. Gen 3, in more ways then one, was considered a soft reboot of sorts for the setting, and by gen 3 its pretty much confirmed that animals dont exist in the pokemon world. The idea of animals existing in the pokemon world is also illustrated in the early seasons of the pokemon anime and trading cards. Again, it isnt till around gen 3 is it confirmed pokemon are the animals of this universe.

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Multiverse theory at work…
      But in all seriousness, if you put wild animals into a world and then introduced wild animals that can breathe fire or generate massive electric shocks and ALSO have human level or higher intelligence, you can bet the normal animals aren’t going to survive very long.

    • @princesscrystal6410
      @princesscrystal6410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I just assume it’s eventually Pokémon eventually fills in the gaps for other animals, like Lobsters in the first Gen and now we have Corphish

    • @Patolagos
      @Patolagos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And gen 4 took it further by adding Arceus and all of that

    • @squeaktheswan2007
      @squeaktheswan2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Perhaps because regular animals were going extinct and pokemon are an invasive species? That's my theory, anyway.

    • @nousukas
      @nousukas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@princesscrystal6410 That's the reason. I think it's said in some interview about the anime.

  • @c0sm1c-d0ll
    @c0sm1c-d0ll ปีที่แล้ว +44

    On Blue's Raticate: I don't think it's dead. Blue's determined to have the strongest team possible and may have felt like Raticate was falling behind a little. My theory is he either released it or (my favorite) sent it back home to live with his sister or Professor Oak.
    The thing that always throws me off is Blue appearing in the Pokemon Tower, though... still working on an explanation for that.

    • @dsmp7
      @dsmp7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Blue says he was in the Pokémon tower because he was looking for Cubone

    • @MokohiChan
      @MokohiChan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah, I've always found the theory goofy because why in the WORLD would he be so playfully competitive if you KILLED HIS POKEMON? Also, i've played countless Romhacks of FireRed at this point because it's the most common base used for ROMhacks and many of these don't change the dialog. Maybe it's different in the originals, but at least in the remakes, he never asks if your Pokémon is dead or if you've ever lost a Pokémon. He says "Hey, what are you doing here? Your Pokémon don't look dead! I can make them faint at least!"
      Your theory also would fit for the actual reason. I mean, at the end of the game, Oak admonishes him for not loving his Pokémon enough. I always thought that was kinda weird since other than saying "I picked the wrong one!" when he loses the first battle, he doesn't really SEEM to have any dialog implying he's mean to or doesn't love his Pokémon. If we assume he's ditching Pokémon because they aren't good enough to beat you, then that viewpoint makes more sense.

  • @makesomething4093
    @makesomething4093 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The lighthouse Dragonite was one of my first memories of being terrified.
    I think the mist, music and those eerie calls/cries are what really did me in, but the massive shadow with glowing eyes didn’t help.

  • @sheepladybaa
    @sheepladybaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Regarding Lavender Town and the tower being a cemetery, cremation is incredibly common in Japan, and I would guess that the tower is supposed to be similar to a pagoda.

    • @secredeath
      @secredeath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess baby... You should come over

    • @TheKingOfRooks
      @TheKingOfRooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@secredeath bro the fuck's wrong with you

    • @jefflarrabee1128
      @jefflarrabee1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@secredeath is the real life brock.

    • @StonedSammieSue
      @StonedSammieSue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@secredeath yeah man. If you disregard her interesting opinions and opt for the “yeah I guess whatever tf you just said, can we fuck now?” That’ll really get any woman to fall for you lol

    • @jefflarrabee1128
      @jefflarrabee1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@StonedSammieSue i always take my relationship advice from stoned cats.

  • @AChaser00
    @AChaser00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    About the genesect being kabutops, there is a separate theory that makes this one even more viable. It says that fossil Pokémon are part rock because of a flaw in the resurrection process, and like you said, genesect would be part steel because of the plating Team Plasma gave it. So assuming both Pokémon got one of their types over written, it’s plausible that the original Pokémon both are based of was a bug/water type.

    • @MichaelSotoCE
      @MichaelSotoCE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The problem is Genesect has a bug abdomen too, and Kabutops definitely does not

    • @adriangonzalez3600
      @adriangonzalez3600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MichaelSotoCE I mean, Kabutops is based off of a species that's loosely related to lobsters & trilobytes, which are basically ocean insects, so Genesect being bug/steel still makes sense for this theory.

    • @PhailRaptor
      @PhailRaptor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is an alternate theory that it is a long-lost evolution of Paras/Parasect before the infection of the parasitic mushrooms.

    • @earlymorninstonedpimp
      @earlymorninstonedpimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PhailRaptor Parasect looks more like a crab than whatever Kabutops is based on

    • @Garden0flowr
      @Garden0flowr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@earlymorninstonedpimp to me, kabutops looks like an ancestor to scyther due to both having scythe hands and being two legged insects

  • @FormOfKorn
    @FormOfKorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    There's actually another connection between the Eeveelutions and the gen 2 legendary trio that probably solidified the theory for a good number of fans. Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon's normal abilities are Water Absorb, Volt Absorb, and Flash Fire respectively. In Gen 5 and 6, Suicune, Raikou, and Entei respectively had these same abilities as their Hidden Abilities in the game's code.
    However, these Hidden Abilities were never made available for the legendary trio, and when the trio did gain access to Hidden Abilities in Gen 7 they were retconned to all have Inner Focus.
    It really feels as if GameFreak often includes deeper lore implications only to snuff them out later, as they adamantly denied the Ditto/Mew connection a few years ago despite the enormous number of similarities between the two that are too many to be coincidental. The Gen 2 legendary trio having their hidden abilities retconned feels like another Ditto/Mew denial from the devs, given that.

    • @youtubeneedstochange4414
      @youtubeneedstochange4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I find that to be so insulting for whatever reason. It's like GameFreak considers their fanbase to be too stupid to handle complex lore.

    • @hootle4641
      @hootle4641 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@youtubeneedstochange4414 tbf to them, it might be because Nintendo wants their game to be super kid friendly, as evidenced by the Conker thing being removed. I can't imagine Nintendo would like the idea of three popular Pokémon burning to death, so would rather it remain ambiguous.
      Does suck though.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or they include vague stuff and don't elaborate to keep us talking. This series was born on the pre internet cafeteria table, and rumors were among the biggest part of that. Gotta keep them alive somehow

  • @Hakunamne19
    @Hakunamne19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I must have missed the explanation to PokeRus in game when I was a kid ( I owned Gold Version). I just randomly noticed that some of my pokemon were infected at some point. I immediately quarantined them in a box in the PC. I meticulously scanned my entire collection for it.. I was TERRIFIED by it. I had no clue what that meant. Was it detrimental? Were their file corrupted? This was before the internet was what it is today. I grew up poor so I had no access to it. Didn't find out for YEARS what it meant.

    • @bcl3341
      @bcl3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I used to go through the few gaming mags stocked by our local grocery store as a kid and used the 10¢ copy machine to get the page I needed 😁

    • @ironoat
      @ironoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Pokerus is so weird to me. It feels like one of those obviously fake playground rumors. Like, it's a super rare virus that is beneficial to your pokemon, and then disappears quickly. It's even rarer than a shiny pokemon. Just, why?

    • @TippleCreations
      @TippleCreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      While playing back on gold, I got it. The ONLY way you knew is when you healed up and Nurse Joy comments on it.

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it happened to me too, but now I'm doubting my own memory.
      I did play a lot of hours of pokemon. I remember being scared my pokemon would die but then nothing happened and I forgot about it, lol.

    • @TippleCreations
      @TippleCreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZeranZeran oh man I got so fucking panicked cause I was like 8 or 9 at the time, and my Tyranitar had it. Thought I was gonna loose my big boi.

  • @RobotMan6270
    @RobotMan6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    I don’t understand why entries like The Lavender Town Syndrome, Pokemon Lost Silver, and Buried Alive are so far down, I thought they were pretty well known creepy pastas that a bunch of people knew. I think I was just expecting something really mysterious, weird, and obscure that hardly anyone knew. Idk maybe these creepy pastas aren’t very well known and they deserve to be that far down and I’m just a Pokémon fan that spends too much time looking at Pokémon stuff. I think another part is that Pokémon is MASSIVE and I was thinking it would get something on the same level at Every Copy of Mario 64 is Personalized but that’s perhaps one of the most well known things about Mario 64 so Idk maybe the Mario 64 iceberg has spoiled me.

    • @NEScRETRO
      @NEScRETRO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      yeah I'm not really sure what that's all about. I don't make any of the icebergs I discuss, otherwise I would certainly keep creepypastas around the top couple layers, but that's just me.

    • @RobotMan6270
      @RobotMan6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah I would do the same.

    • @foreverpyrite
      @foreverpyrite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      These creepypastas were pretty lame to in my opinion, but I was hoping to see some things on the top like the obscure truck and what not. Whoever makes these icebergs are quite the unique souls.

    • @RobotMan6270
      @RobotMan6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This iceberg is probaby non creepy to creepy

  • @MmeCShadow
    @MmeCShadow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    53:39
    New theory: N is just thee Zoroarks in a trench coat.

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You know, it would make sense for him to be his Zoroark’s baby Zorua, or even a second Zoroark.

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But who are thee

  • @validark
    @validark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I like the "three eevee burnt in the tower and ho-oh revived them and gave them the powers of their evolutions" theory more (im also pretty sure the beasts and eeveelutions share an ability (i think its the eeveelutions hidden one))

  • @penti8345
    @penti8345 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    man, i wish i could have been alive to experience pokemania.. i was born during the tail end of pokemania. when i was in middle school obsessing over pokemon during the gen 6 era it was only popular within my small group of friends. everyone else thought we were weird for being so into it. the pokémon go craze was a thing, but it only lasted a month and i wasn’t even super into pokémon go. i would have killed to live thru a time period where everyone was as excited about pokémon as i was

    • @colt45604
      @colt45604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sorry you missed out, I was like 8 or 9 during that time, and it was insane

    • @Shouperman
      @Shouperman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry you missed out, man. I'd rather experience missing out by being born late than what I went through. I was 5 when Red and Blue came out and every kid at school was into it. I didn't live close enough to anywhere that held events and money and time were a typical issue for my parents, so I could never go and experience all that and get special Pokémon and get the tickets for in game events. Had to see all these kids come to school and show off that they got the new Pokémon and were able to complete their Pokédexes. And I could never get anyone to trade with me so I could acquire trade evolutions.

  • @umi2751
    @umi2751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    About lavender town's tower, it's based in japanese budhist memorial stones. Since most japanese ppl are cremated and it's quite odd to bury people after they're dead

    • @ajc94
      @ajc94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Probably there's just not enough space to bury people, Korea is the same

    • @idk-ov9oh
      @idk-ov9oh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AFTER?

    • @turbo8628
      @turbo8628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@idk-ov9oh after is better than before 🤣

    • @idk-ov9oh
      @idk-ov9oh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@turbo8628 but its only odd when its after?

    • @turbo8628
      @turbo8628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@idk-ov9oh if cremation is more common then buring is odd. However, it is odder to bury someone before they die than after they are dead.
      Was a throwaway comment for a bit of fun tbh

  • @swagnoiceswag
    @swagnoiceswag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    here’s an interesting fact on white hand that you missed: it was mentioned in the pokémon origins anime, and it actually shows up on a character’s shoulder when it is, if you look closely.

  • @LennyZesty
    @LennyZesty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    24:30
    The '???' type also appears when a pure Fire type uses the move Burn Up, and is still present in the games, at least in Sw/Sh. This has actually led to some really interesting battle strategies, such as giving your pure Fire type Wonder Guard, making them immune to every move after they use Burn Up.

    • @pete1318
      @pete1318 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually no, since generation 5 '???' is truly gone, burn up makes the pokemon typeless, which might have the same effectiveness (being neutral all), but isn't the same thing, you can check Bulbapedia for more information

    • @Jadeschannel255
      @Jadeschannel255 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok

  • @De_La_Soto
    @De_La_Soto ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Not sure if I missed them during the video, but here are two gems from Pokémon Stadium:
    1. If you use a Pokémon with a nickname (usually a variation of their name, i.e. AlAkAzAM, Pikachoo, etc.) they’ll appear with different sprites that differ from even their own shiny forms.
    2. Similar to the Yoshi one - there was a popular “Tips/Cheat Codes” magazine that stated that in Stadium 2, if you defeat the Gym Leaders + Elite Four/Champion using only Typhlosion and Lugia, you would then be able to battle + capture Mew.

  • @MezzoForte4
    @MezzoForte4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I can't understand how a toy the size of a tennis ball became a choking hazard. That's like wondering how a puppy managed to eat a shoe whole.

    • @wajmgirl
      @wajmgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      All I can imagine is that they managed to get the clip off and put it in their mouth.
      There is a suffocation hazard, and at least one of the halves has no holes in it and could cover both the mouth and nose

    • @fluffycuteish
      @fluffycuteish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because small children are idiots lmao

    • @cognizant3252
      @cognizant3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wajmgirl that is exactly what happened. The pokeball cover went over their mouth and nose and got trapped and airtight which suffocated them.

    • @YamahaR12015
      @YamahaR12015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cognizant3252 don't have a stupid kid. Problem solved

    • @wajmgirl
      @wajmgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@YamahaR12015 thank you for contributing to that by never having children.

  • @ShinoYomo
    @ShinoYomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I remember getting to Mirage Island thinking I could get a secret legendary but it was nothing. Ended up leaving and then never found it again. Glad to know it's a real thing and not a dream

    • @inflameswetrust2194
      @inflameswetrust2194 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t Latoya and Latias spawn there if you do it on a particular day?

    • @ShinoYomo
      @ShinoYomo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@inflameswetrust2194 no, they will spawn in grass at a 4 percent rate randomly. I got latias on the way to route 141 by chance but she got away

  • @roj0riot
    @roj0riot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    5:20 maybe the truck is there because of a “if i get rid of this one asset i don’t need the entire game crashes” kind of situation that happens sometimes lmao. at least that’s a practical explanation for why it was 1. in a place most people are unable to access and 2. the only use of that specific asset (as far as i know)

  • @kenkoopa7903
    @kenkoopa7903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Actually, the reason Mew and Ditto might share shiny colors is that shinies in Gen 2 relied on a simple positional palette swap from one palette in a giant list to another, without considering for bespoke shiny forms.

  • @CodiTroth
    @CodiTroth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "But they help me learn that Pidgey evolves to Pidgeotto at level 18. It learns Whirlwind at level 21, Wing Attack at level 31 and that as its level rises it learns various tricks. After evolving to Pidgeot it can fly at 1200 metres at speeds of up to Mach 2."
    This is said by a character named Joe in season 1 episode 9, School of hard knocks. There is also a couple more mentions about leveling Pokémon in this episode.

  • @heartbeat4atinman
    @heartbeat4atinman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    A few theories that weren't on the iceberg but stood out to me:
    Mossdeep Space Center rocket launches: In the Mossdeep Space Center in R/S/E, there's a scientist that states the number of successful launches they've had. Apparently, this is just the number of real-life weeks since you started the game. However, I heard a lot of rumors that these were actually counting the number of your victories against the Elite Four, and that once the number of launches got to 100, you could ride a rocket into space and fight Deoxys. Coincidentally, this is also pretty much the same concept behind the Delta Episode in OR/AS (just replace the rocket with Rayquaza), so I wonder if the developers were aware of this rumor like with the Mew truck thing.
    Akala Island golf course: This one is mostly notable to me because it's a theory for the one of the newer games, which aren't quite as common. In Sun and Moon, there are multiple Golfer NPCs, and Kahili of the Elite Four is a golfer. There's also a golf course on Akala Island displayed on the in-game minimap and the official illustration, but you never get to go there. This, plus some unused content in the game files, has some people wondering if the golf course was planned to be an accessible area during development, but got scrapped for whatever reason.

    • @Ocarinist_Drew
      @Ocarinist_Drew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. I heard the rocket would take you to the moon, where you could catch both Deoxys and Jirachi. Gotta love playground rumors.
      I still remember the feeling of disappointment when I finally got to 100 launches and nothing happened.

  • @Lo0serx3
    @Lo0serx3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like the game theory explanation that Blue just put the Raticate in his box. when you battle it on the SS Anne, it's a level lower than where it evolves, giving evidence that Blue is just catching Pokemon at random and using what's strongest

  • @lonergothonline
    @lonergothonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Lt. Surge being 'saved' by 'electric' pokemon, might just refer to defibrillation?
    like he had a heart problem that needed remedying. I only point this out because the obvious reading of that line is that he used pokemon to fight in a war, but if we take what he said and put it in a new context, we can imagine another situation wherein only humans fought in some war, without pokmon.
    another theory that came to mind while writing this out, what if humans using pokemon at all was a recent development? not like yesterday or two days ago, but like a thousand years?

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, because in Lucario & The Mystery of Mew, it shows armored Pokémon marching into battle alongside humans. Also, X&Y exists, and the tapestries are pretty clear about Pokémon’s role in the great war

  • @TheLimedew
    @TheLimedew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Dude, I love the little story in the beginning. My Dad would always bring home a new Dragon Ball Z VHS whenever there was a new one at Walmart at the time. It was a great time guessing which day he’d bring one home.

  • @MezzoForte4
    @MezzoForte4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    This tidbit is probably Iceberg worthy if it wasn't common knowledge now (like Pikablu = Marill). I remember reading in an old gaming magazine under a "secrets/tips" like section where it explained in Victory Road in Gold/Silver there was a "silver" or a light colored Rhyhorn wandering in the area. I read this back then and booted up my Silver copy and spent an hour or so going all over Victory Road and saw nothing, just ordinary Rhyhorn.
    Many years later, I would remember that article and thought how maybe what it was referring to was probably a shiny Rhyhorn the writer must've encountered during their playthrough. However, I have since then lost the magazine so I wasn't able to recall if it was referring to a Rhyhorn or Rhydon, because I know Rhydon's are light colored when shiny while Rhyhorns are reddish/copper colored. It could've also been in Crystal as Rhydon don't appear in G/S in Victory Road, but they do in Crystal.
    Hazy memory aside, I do remember that article and how it was very most likely about a shiny Rhydon encounter and how the writers thought it was some scripted rare encounter like Raikou or Suicune. Little info like that, while incorrect, was just so fun back then.

    • @sheff4719
      @sheff4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If that's the case then I feel bad for the writer thinking that it's a normal occurrence and not being told otherwise because there are editors so that must suck, also many kids were probably tricked lol.

    • @hestoceles
      @hestoceles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It’s weird reading your comment because three days ago I encountered a shiny Rhydon in Crystal version at Victory Road lol

    • @dood3530
      @dood3530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I have kind of a similar memory (not about Rhyhorn/Rhydon, but something similar). I thought I remembered reading in a magazine as a kid that, in Crystal, you could only catch Suicune without a Master Ball if your character was a girl, and you could only catch Entei (or maybe Raikou?) if you were a boy. That obviously isn't true, but I remember believing it back in the day because I was playing as a boy and could never catch Suicune, despite catching the other legendaries, and I could've sworn I read that somewhere.

    • @MezzoForte4
      @MezzoForte4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dood3530 Sexist pokemon?! Lol, that is strange. Given how relatively difficult it was to find and catch them, I'd believe it. I remember back then I figured out the (now commonly used) method of tracking the Roamers on your Dex and moving between two short routes to make them move along the map for an encounter. The Roamer encounter music also always scared the crap out of me since it started on a very high note and that's usually the sound when a Gameboy game crashes. XD Good times.

  • @8BitPancakes
    @8BitPancakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    About the Cubone/Kangaskhan theory... There's many Pokemon who evolve into different Mons using alternative methods. Bellossom, Gallade, the Eevee line, Rhyperior, and Politoed for example, use different objects and stones to evolve, so why wouldn't the skull from the grieving baby Kangaskhan's mother influence it's evolution? Its mother's skull becomes a part of its identity, thus turning it into a Cubone, and further into a Marowak.
    I dunno, this is mostly just speculation on top of already proven evolution criteria, but I wouldn't completely sweep it under the rug.

  • @C7007
    @C7007 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Another very obscure fact that could have its place in the bottom section of the iceberg concerns some trainers’ names in the French versions of gen 5 and 7 (mostly) games. It seems that a member of the localisation team is a big fan of the parodic soap opera « Le Coeur A Ses Raisons », and named NPCs after characters of said soap. The most blatant example is that rich family from Undella Town, featuring a Brenda, a Clifford, a Crystale and a Flatsy, which are all names you can find in the series.Crystale even quotes a line from her counterpart in thes games. Still in Gen 5, there’s a guy named Brett in the French version, whose trainer class is « Doctor », just like Brett Montgomery, the main character of « Le Coeur A Ses Raisons. A pair of swimmers named Crystale and Criquette can be found in Sun and Moon as well.
    Very niche and probably not interesting but still wanted to mention it

  • @Kiwibro1010
    @Kiwibro1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    1:16:42
    If I recall correctly, In one of the early seasons, there's an episode where a young trainer is running on a treadmill while reciting the levels of which the caterpie(?) Line evolves. I don't remember the details, but I do know it's a thing

    • @NEScRETRO
      @NEScRETRO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yes! This is exactly what episode i was remembering! I think its the one with the school children. Definitely an early episode in season 1. Just looked, it's episode 9, titled "The School of Hard Knocks".

    • @TheSlipperyNUwUdle
      @TheSlipperyNUwUdle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was quizzed about pidgey. :) I know because I remember it evolves at level 15. (According to the episode)

    • @danieltaylor4185
      @danieltaylor4185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember having a VHS with this episode on it. I was going to comment about it before scrolling down. But, I did very distinctly remember the kid on the treadmill later being able to recall at which level Pidgey and Pidgeotto evolve, what level they learn a few moves, and I think he shares some information from one of their Pokedex entries about being able to fly at mach 2 or something.

    • @pixality7902
      @pixality7902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And she points out that pikachu should be about level 25 with 2 badges but it's probably not there yet.

    • @thomaswilkerson2711
      @thomaswilkerson2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NEScRETRO you actually had a screen shot from that episode in the video lol

  • @cloudstrife0
    @cloudstrife0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Uh, beta sprites were uncovered that show both Kanga and Cubone were in fact connected. They were once part of the same evolutionary line, I believe.

  • @tokiponafan4112
    @tokiponafan4112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I know of 2 entries you forgot to add.
    Spinda has 4,294,967,296 combinations of 4 spots (Below the Surface): Spinda has over 4 billion combinations of 4 spots. Its a 1 followed by 32 zeros (or 100 nonillion) in binary. (100000000000000000000000000000000) Getting the shinies, its 8,589,934,592 different combinations of 4 spots.
    Mewtwo birthday is Rick Astley's birthday (The Depths): Technically, in the diary, Mewtwo's birthday is February 6, which is the same as Rick Astley's birthday. So basically, Mewtwo is never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down.
    Edit: The first entry was already used in the iceberg.

  • @SanctusBodhisattvaRex
    @SanctusBodhisattvaRex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    @1:34:57 There's actually a cool trick with that, you could trade the Pikachu from Yellow, level it up pass the gym level caps, and resend it back. Pikachu won't actually disobey your orders, however the bond system will be completely reset.

  • @sakuraanime122
    @sakuraanime122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I liked how you pretended Lavender Town Syndrome was legit XD

    • @NEScRETRO
      @NEScRETRO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Lol yeah I did that kind of in response to the overwhelming comments I got on my Super Mario 64 personalization video insisting to me that it's not real, and like... I know... but I took a serious tone with it on purpose, because I thought it'd be boring to constantly keep talking about things as fictional, so, when I got to Lavender Town Syndrome, I just went full real with it because I think it'd be really funny for someone to comment telling that that Lavender Town Syndrome isn't real and that I'm dumb for thinking that it is, or trying to say that it really happened lol.

  • @humanityisnotbeautiful1941
    @humanityisnotbeautiful1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Quick correction for 26:18, the Pokemon listed were likely never meant for Gen 1 at all. MissingNo only turns into those Gen 2 Pokemon because Gen 2 reuses part of Gen 1's indexing format, and to save space, those MissingNo slots were replaced with actual Pokemon. Gen 1 however did actually cut a few Pokemon out which made it into early builds of Gen 2 (Including the Spaceworld demo), such as a line of electric tigers meant to be a counterpart to Rapidash and Seaking's lines, and a Vulpix pre-evolution. However, any cut Pokemon from Gen 1 that was transferred to Gen 2 also was unfortunately cut there. The farthest some of them ever got, that we know of at least, were early 1999 prototypes.
    (EDIT): Back in 2019, Gen 1's original index, along with tons of other early assets dating back to 1990 were leaked by an anonymous collector, and given to a team of Pokemon archivists called Helix Chamber. (This collector may or may not have also been behind the gigaleak last year, which leaked tons of N64 and SNES assets.) Basically, we have a pretty good understanding of what was cut from Gen 1.

    • @Naixatloz
      @Naixatloz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In addition, it's been proven that Lugia was created specifically for the anime, and Teddiursa is a repurposed Honoguma. So both of them were designed well after Red and Green were already released.

  • @anthonyamurri9278
    @anthonyamurri9278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Pokemon levels were mentioned and shown in the animated couple times. The immediate ones that pops in my head is the Scizor trainer that Ash battled using his Heracross. He had a laptop that he was using in order to figure out a Pokemon's level and determine what attacks to use. Then in the first season at the Pokemon Academy the kid that was being forced to run on a treadmill and talk about Pidgey showed Misty Ash and Brock their training room using arcade games to simulate gym battles. These simulation arcade games if you paid close enough attention to notice were actually Pokemon Red and Blue

  • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
    @bigtimetimmyjim6486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The "starter caught in grass outside Pallet town" refers to a VERY widespread rumor when Red and Blue came out that the starter pokemon could be caught in the grass inaccessible alongside Pallet Town. EVERY gaming "hints" website had an unverified "hint" that the other starter pokemon were here, and referred to it as "the field with the Charmanders". Because there was no oversight, the rumor would just persist.

    • @topherlangford
      @topherlangford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      theres a glitch where they actually have encounter rates there. so its not quite a rumor. mew will interestingly also have an encounter rate, though these caught pokemon are glitched, they dont always have the right values. sometimes they would get mixed with other pokemon in your inventory and take on their sprite and even some of their stats, but retain the name they originally had. so sometimes you might end up with a caterpie that has charmander stats.....but when attempting to transfer it to another game, the system acts like its not even a pokemon and cant be transferred

  • @exeledusprince9165
    @exeledusprince9165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The censored intro thing might be referring to the original opening theme scene where pikachu runs through a lass's legs and she embarassingly covers her skirt. I'm pretty sure this was censored in the west

    • @TheSlipperyNUwUdle
      @TheSlipperyNUwUdle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah, in the original song it actually says “I’ll find Pokémon anywhere, even up this girl’s skirt” or something like that. Lol Japan is wild.

    • @dionaeamuscipula6649
      @dionaeamuscipula6649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@TheSlipperyNUwUdle I think it was that the original lyrics translated (roughly) to "Through fire, through water, through grass, and even through that girl's legs"

    • @NikkyElso
      @NikkyElso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The actual scene is in the American version they just don't sing about looking for Pokémon up a girl's skirt 🤣

    • @JohnSmithsu2006
      @JohnSmithsu2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NikkyElso preach

  • @WinnieBeatles
    @WinnieBeatles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Another point in favor of the legendary beasts previously being eeveelutions is that the 3 sages who test you in Crystal, before you fight/catch Suicune, use specifically Vaporeon, Flareon and Jolteon (each sage has one of them)

    • @Chibispore
      @Chibispore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also in gen 5 Vaporeon, Flareon, and Jolteon have the same hidden abilities as the three legendary beasts, but the latter's hidden abilities were changed from gen 6 onwards!

  • @lamprocapnosspectabilis4116
    @lamprocapnosspectabilis4116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Multi-story burial buildings like the Pokemon towers are actually a thing! Vaults and pagodas and catacombs are all very similar concepts, but in more recent years "vertical" or "highrise" cemeteries just like the towers are being proposed and built, because large cities are running out of burial space. My personal guess is that most Pokemon are cremated for the towers, it makes the most sense.

  • @Red-zn5oz
    @Red-zn5oz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'd like to point out that in Legends Arceus, it's explained that Pokemon can actually change their size based on energy. This not only explains the Anime's discrepancies, but it also explains the Pokemon inside of the Pokeballs mystery.

    • @hootle4641
      @hootle4641 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      What's cool is this was a thing in Gen 1 too. According to an old hidden pokedex, a professor was messing with a Primeape to study how to calm it, and accidentally made it shrink into the size of a fetus, able to fit in a glasses case. Apparently that led to the production of pokeballs. So shrinking has always been a thing Pokémon could do for some reason.

  • @amas9564
    @amas9564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    If Arbok is Kobra backwards…. Then Muk must be…

    • @charlesquales7450
      @charlesquales7450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yikes

    • @itssunday1990
      @itssunday1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Koom

    • @cognizant3252
      @cognizant3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NOOOO

    • @MartFishTank
      @MartFishTank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I hate this so much lmao

    • @taimalik1110
      @taimalik1110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well to be fair, cobra is spelled with a "C" not a "K" as in Arbok, so "Kum" is still valid based on Pokemon grammar rules as the reverse of Muk!

  • @jasonrodriguez4264
    @jasonrodriguez4264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    There should’ve been the old man from X and Y from the city with the giant Crystal where he asks you if he can take care of a low level Pokémon (from lvl. 1-5) after days passed and go back to his house, you your Pokémon in a poke ball that has your Pokémon and letter from him saying thank you, that the Pokémon you gave him gave him a happy life before dying

    • @haka-katyt7439
      @haka-katyt7439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Dang that is darker than Darkrai

    • @JEST3R_
      @JEST3R_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Holy shit I don't need that in my cute animal therapy

    • @1313puredragon
      @1313puredragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the fact you can find an Escape Rope hidden in his house does not help matters
      EDIT: my mistake, the Escape Rope is outside of the Gym not inside the house

    • @TheKingOfRooks
      @TheKingOfRooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1313puredragon Christ, really?

  • @grimms-vi1874
    @grimms-vi1874 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:45:40
    It's worth noting that the "white hand" NPC shows up in the Pokemon Origins anime short when Red visits the Lavender Town pokemon center. What's even more interesting about it is that there actually IS a faint white hand resting on Red's shoulder as he responds to their comment. Easy enough to see if you're looking for it, but something most are likely to miss the first time around if they aren't aware it's there.

  • @Markusbarkus111
    @Markusbarkus111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Shout out to you for explaining the history of the Swastika, more awareness should be spread like you did. If we can get people in the west to once again see it as it originally was it would remove a powerful symbol for white supremacist, and allow ethnic minorities use an important symbol without fear of looking like a nazi.

    • @Vassilinia
      @Vassilinia ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Sadly the memories of Hitler and the holocaust, even now, are prevalent enough to prevent that. It's very possible that the swastika may not reacquire its original symbolism within our lifetime.

    • @tortyreus2384
      @tortyreus2384 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Swastika appeared in Europe for the first time over 15000 years ago, and has been widely used by the majority of European cultures the past 2500 years. This nonsense idea that Hitler "stole" it from Hinduism would be laughable if the arrogance of the people who think they're clever for figuring out it appeared in Hindu cultures as well wasn't so smug, it was a European sun symbol first and foremost and this is why it got adopted by the NSDAP. And in European history, they always face the way the Nazis used them.

    • @paid14
      @paid14 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but sometimes there's no going back. A noble pursuit, sure, but the Swastika for all of its origins now just represents pure and unfetted evil. There is no changing that, I'm afraid...

    • @paid14
      @paid14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PongusMc Nice antisemitism there mate

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just don’t tilt it 45 degrees omegalul

  • @RsnBhs
    @RsnBhs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    By the time cubone evolves into marrowack, the skull is fused to the scalp and is preventing the head from growing. Thus preventing the evolution from occurring.

  • @ChaosSono
    @ChaosSono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I don't think Looker is a Dr. Who reference. If he's a reference to anyone it's probably Zenigata from Lupin III, but since there's never been a direct Lupin analogue, even that's a bit of a stretch.

  • @bamboebahr2470
    @bamboebahr2470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Two theories I'd like to address:
    - Gary's Raticate: I believe this Raticate did not die due to injuries but because someone at Gamefreak knew that rats have an insanely short lifespan, with some species barely averaging 1 year. Considering it already evolved into a raticate it must not have been a young pokemon to begin with. We don't really get a frame of reference for how much time passes between each event but I can imagine the trip to Lavender Town for a 10 year old while training an army of critters takes some time.
    - Machoke's red lines: I believe these are either veins (like the Timbur line also has) or simply stretch marks from bulking up so much after evolving from a Machop (which kind of has pencil arms compared to its evolutions). I guess those would somehow have healed when Machoke evolves again (he sprouts two new frigging arms, healing a stretch mark wouldn't be that much of a stretch, pun very much intended)

    • @sporkCRACK
      @sporkCRACK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ratatta evolves at level 20 but the raticate was level 16. it had a disease where it grew up too fast and died

    • @FamousAaron99
      @FamousAaron99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or he just boxed it because it was weak to him. Gary was probably in the tower looking for mr.fuji but couldn't get past the marrowak ghost cause he didn't have the silph scope.

  • @ScrewdriverGaming
    @ScrewdriverGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm sure someone else has said this, but missingno turning into different pokemon when traded to later versions is likely a stack overflow.
    Basically, if you have a max ID count of 40, when an error occurs, it might get ID 41. Then, the second game, having a max ID count of 60, that error (with the ID of 41) will suddenly turn into whatever pokemon or item has the ID of 41.

  • @athiefinthenight6894
    @athiefinthenight6894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Primeape learned Iron Tail without a tail??? I think we all know what this means.👀👀👀👀

  • @fitnesswithsteve
    @fitnesswithsteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I love how you set the scene at the beginning of your iceberg videos as to what it was like when the game was released and what your experience was. It frames everything in a more interesting context.

    • @amarylily
      @amarylily 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!!!

  • @astridvvv9662
    @astridvvv9662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm around the same age as you, and I can remember VIVIDLY when pokémon blew up. I was in either 2nd or 3rd grade, and like the rest of my classmates I was smitten. My sister and I both were, she's only a year younger than me. I remember my mom taking us to this little hardware shop that also randomly sold pokémon cards (unrelated but beanie babies as well) and we'd each get a new package every other week. We started the initial first day of school after pokémon blew up with pokémon bookbags, lunch boxes, and thermoses. And then there was the first Christmas after pokémon blew up. It was literally the BEST. We got all sorts of pokémon related presents. I can still remember most of what we got in detail:
    - a complete pokedex book, which was a must have in a predominantly pre-internet era
    - pokémon apparel including long sleeve and short sleeve shirts, sweatpants, pajamas, hoodies/jackets and socks (I wish my mom would have saved those as much would likely still fit)
    - several packs of cards
    - gameboys with red and blue games
    - and both of our favorite, extra large and super soft plushes-Pikachu for her, Charmander for me.
    It wasn't long after the popularity exploded that our elementary school official banned bringing the cards to school. The hype was so all-encompassing that teachers constantly struggled with trying to get us all to focus. It was that big. And it happened seemingly overnight. It's still so crazy to me even now how insanely fast it happened, and without any form of social media to help the hype spread. It was organic and wild and I giggle when I think about how it must have looked to all the teachers and staff. We all definitely snuck our cards in our pockets and brought them to school anyways, lol. Super young to be so sneaky 😂
    -

  • @cxokie9999
    @cxokie9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The unobtainable Arcues probably refers to the Arceus event set in the fourth generation, where the event is coded into the game, in two different settings, but never officially released, making him 100% unobtainable by legit methods until later games

  • @noodle790
    @noodle790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Unobtainable Arceus is there Because the original event for him was never released in dpp so you can only get it by hacking
    I'll comment later when I finish the vid
    Looking interesting so far

    • @noodle790
      @noodle790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh ok
      You mention it later in the vid
      Just Saw it

    • @ARGWARUS
      @ARGWARUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey noodle I have a TH-cam channel

    • @ARGWARUS
      @ARGWARUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wat do u mean by finish a vid

  • @camelkingclarith
    @camelkingclarith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    They really should have included Unown and the Ruins of Alph's connection to the Hiroshima bombing somewhere close to the bottom

    • @sheff4719
      @sheff4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And the dessert resort being based on 911.

  • @joaopaulohoppe1543
    @joaopaulohoppe1543 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:15:00 There are very few episodes in the anime that talk about levels, but in the 9th episode the character of the week, Gisele, beats Misty's Starmie with a Graveler, and mentions that Pokemon are only as good as their trainer, and being at a high level.

  • @jamesh4494
    @jamesh4494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Thank you for including happy music. I love content like this, but i hate creepy music. Especially if i listen to them before bed. Awesome video!

    • @gracep2910
      @gracep2910 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The music is an instrumental of “2 B A Master” from the first Pokémon soundtrack!

  • @slaps1455
    @slaps1455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    39:36 the Pokémon that’s “never seen the light of day is actually the Hitmontop beta!

  • @MagicalGirlFia
    @MagicalGirlFia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I’m so happy that there’s finally an iceberg where the creator actually questions some of the more bs theories on them. Great video!

    • @ayoubkaboul3548
      @ayoubkaboul3548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except the lavender town one

    • @HansDester
      @HansDester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But they are fun theories about a fictional universe. Anything can be true. Never understood why people don't get that it's fictional. People can believe whatever they want. Hell, I would rather believe in some of those theories over real world ones like global warming, flat earth, religion or that politicians give a shit about anyone. If people want to believe we killed Blue's Raticate let them. No harm, no foul.

    • @paid14
      @paid14 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HansDester Are you suggesting global warming isn't real?

  • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
    @standard-carrier-wo-chan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how today we can kind of theorize early anime pokemon size outliers like the giant Dragonite and giant Tentacruel as being nothing more than natural Gigantamax or Alpha pokemon.

  • @SpeedBuff
    @SpeedBuff ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Not only does Abra’s Japanese name reference Edgar Cayce but Alakazam’s Japanese name, Foodin, references Houdini as well. The whole evolution line references famous magicians

  • @Lagbeard
    @Lagbeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The real world animals are most likely more there to pad out the wildlife in earlier generations.
    With 151 pokemon, minus the legendaries, populating the eco system wasn't probably as easy as it is nowadays with over 800.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is that why we now have a Dex Cut, because TPC feels the ecosystems are now sufficiently populated?

    • @Lagbeard
      @Lagbeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@autobotstarscream765 I dunno about dex cutting, but for Gen 1, for example fish, you only had Magikarp, Goldeen and Seaking.. So it'd be like there were only 3 kinds of fish in the entirety of the ocean...

  • @KimahriXIII-2
    @KimahriXIII-2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    For Tombstone, my first thought would have been Buried Alive

    • @DigitalEWhore
      @DigitalEWhore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Holy shit I forgot about buried alive

  • @mr.voidout4739
    @mr.voidout4739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Marowak to Kangaskhan could be that the skull-mask eventually fuses into its head as it grows. Female Marowaks reach fertility at a relatively mature age, and become Kangaskhan as they develop their youngling. only fertility can evolve them. And once they die, their skull becomes a Cubone mask once again. You could say each Cubone skull has its own maternal lineage, while male male Marowak skulls go abandoned.

  • @DoubleDeckerCoffin
    @DoubleDeckerCoffin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is my favorite iceberg video to date, from anyone... So much I somehow wasn't aware of, plus the love you have for the series practically radiates out of the screen. Cozy, nostalgic, and entertaining!

  • @McKayla24798
    @McKayla24798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Porygon is such a bro…
    He took the fall for pikachu’s crime so that he could keep being the mascot in the show and sacrificed his chances to ever appear again D:

  • @spideymenz5738
    @spideymenz5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    57:14 the original Japanese opening for season one of the anime had a scene where pikachu ran in between a girl’s legs while the lyrics said something like “mysterious as whatever is hidden by a girl’s skirt”

    • @WickerOSeer
      @WickerOSeer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s not quite how the lyrics went. The song starts off listing off a bunch of places they’d search for Pokémon (in fire, in water, in the grass, in forests, etc.), ending with “in that girl’s skirt.”

  • @EdDevil
    @EdDevil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With the Cubone evolution thing, the same logic of Cubon putting a skull on his head and evolving into a marrowak can be seen in other pokemon that use items to evolve like Slowpoke evolving into a slowking when it wears a king's rock vs evolving into a slowbro when a shelder bites its tail (in the anime at least)

  • @oatsaredelicious2521
    @oatsaredelicious2521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Somebody in the anime said straight up which moves a pidgey learns at which level. Even the right ones. Pikachu should've never lost to that Snivey especially since it was its first battle.

  • @jeffhough7460
    @jeffhough7460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Also fun fact about the gold cards, you can build an electrolysis machine at home for like a dollar and an old cell phone charger to just reverse the process used to bind the gold to the metal in the first place, so you will still have done your gold experiment AND a now non-gold plated collector edition metal poke plate XD

  • @8BitJams
    @8BitJams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Oh also, about the Smosh thing:
    Smosh uploaded a vid of Ian and Anthony lipsyncing the theme song in 2005, which was taken down due to copyright. In 2010 they made a parody of the theme song instead of a lip-sync making fun of the Pokemon copyright team to get back at them

  • @ne0nmancer
    @ne0nmancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Regarding the mysterious lighthouse Dragonite from the anime episode, i read it somewhere that it was originally supposed to be Lugia, as it was one of the first Gen 2 mons to be conceived, but they scrapped the idea, maybe to save it for the movie, and substituted by a giant Dragonite as a stand in. It even makes sounds similar to Lugia's.

  • @dantesdiscoinfernolol
    @dantesdiscoinfernolol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I totallly understand not wanting to impose too much game logic on the anime, but you missed my favorite part of the "Pikachu Level Reset" theory: it's not just that Pikachu resets every region, *it's because he's glitched.*
    If I recall correctly, if you glitch a Pokemon in Red/Blue/Yellow in such a way that they level past 100, they'll keep leveling until you hit level 255 or 256, at which point the Pokemon's level will lap back around to 1.
    The theory, if stretched this far, is that Ash's Pikachu is glitched from the start. It's why he's so crazy strong right out of the Pokeball, and why he refuses to listen to Ash initially (before the power of friendship allowed Ash to break the rules). Pikachu didn't start as level 5, he probably started at something wildly higher, and the reason he keeps "resetting" at random every series or so is because he laps back around when he gets too much experience.
    (Of course, the real reason is to reset the stakes every new region of the Pokemon anime, but it's a funny way to explain it with the mechanics that make up the Pokemon world.)

  • @ThePortjumper
    @ThePortjumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great iceberg video! I remember finding mirage island as a kid and thinking nothing of it. I do remember being pleasantly surprised by the wild wynaut, as they were nowhere else in the game, except through breeding. Later I'd go back in subsequent playthroughs and never found it again. I thought I'd just imagined the whole thing until my teens when I found out about its rarity. Pokemon easter eggs are so quirky and fun.

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    kabutops would be bug water if he was actually alive. but since it is a living fossil, it is rock.

    • @NEScRETRO
      @NEScRETRO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      damn, this is a good point... didn't even think about that!

    • @earlymorninstonedpimp
      @earlymorninstonedpimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but wouldn’t Omastar be too? **D O N T F O R G E T L O R D H E L I X**

    • @kamataros5172
      @kamataros5172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@earlymorninstonedpimp omastar could be water only or even water rock originally (shuckle is bug/rock because of it's shell as well), bur yes it's a pretty common theory that some fossils have one of their original types overwritten by rock or just added because theyre fossils. Lileep and cradily could easily be water/grass

  • @machvia2429
    @machvia2429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When we were kids, my older brother and I had that magazine with the fake Yoshi April Fools thing. But we were young enough that we didn't really grasp April Fools as a holiday, nor the concept that someone could just say something that they and everyone else knew wasn't true and have it printed up in an entire magazine and present it as fact. I think my brother and one of his friends actually tried it, but one or both of them couldn't get all 150 pokemon, so they gave up until they were older and realized we'd been fooled. A more innocent time...

  • @chimorean3467
    @chimorean3467 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always assumed the floors in between the levels of the tower was thicker to accommodate for the dead pokemon since that's the easiest way to do it

  • @ChatookaMusic
    @ChatookaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ah yes, the mother's skull turning Cubone into a different Pokemon is a completely ridiculous idea, but the logic that every single Cubone is somehow genetically predisposed to have a dead mother and wear her skull on its head totally makes sense, flawless logic

    • @kaih6560
      @kaih6560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No it could make sense
      1) it wears it's mother's hat. If the head has no room fir growthit could be stunted. Yes the mothers head is bigger but worn the right way it can still sit tight. For examples of altering bone growtj see Weston a prices book. He had a section of a people who hat babies sleep on a board. Result was a slightly flatter back of the head or see mewing.
      2) the mother wears it in the bag ( not sure if the word is correct on a biological level) like a kangaroo would. I guess the mother will feed it. Maybe it even gets energy or nutrients from the connection. If the mother is dead this could alter the growth amd even stunt it. Maybe this is the reason why it wears the head/skull. Maybe this way it can at least get some nutrients. Furthermore maybe in the bones it gets different ones. More calcium and less other stuff, energy for instance. What mainly determines growth( at least for humans but I guess many mammals too) is how much protein you get during growth. So this little fella cannot hunt or anything and his mother will not be able to provide. Which means shorter im height. Licking and chewing those bones will npurish his bones nontheless. Which will certainly give a different body type.

    • @iamsam-cu9rz
      @iamsam-cu9rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe the mother’s skull is like an evolution stone. I wonder if it gets mass hunted for its properties.

    • @gigastrike2
      @gigastrike2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cubone is one of many pokemon that are written as characters, rather than creatures.

    • @LycanMOON
      @LycanMOON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My best guess is that since marowak has the skull connected to its body they eventually grow with one already on

    • @lluma8153
      @lluma8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe they’re like that one type of octopus where the mother guards her egg for 4 and a half years without eating and then dies

  • @RedoCasshan
    @RedoCasshan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    22:51 Acording to the Pokémon anime the first Dynamax Pokémon is Tentacruel and the second is Dragonite

    • @RedoCasshan
      @RedoCasshan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @man with a username same

    • @earlymorninstonedpimp
      @earlymorninstonedpimp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dynamax Tentacruel is technically seen in every episode of the first season bc it’s seen in the intro

  • @hfc2x
    @hfc2x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    26:19 The list of Pokémon you mention here is just an error handler list implemented in gen 2. Those Pokémon weren't actually meant to be in gen 1, but are what a gen 2 game shows when you attempt to trade a Missingno. from a gen 1 game. The actual Pokémon that got removed from gen 1 can be seen in an almost-complete gallery in the TCRF website, in the page detailing the technicalities of Missingno. Some of those Pokémon, like Meowth's and Ponyta's baby stages would later be considered for inclusion during gen 2 development (as they appeared in the Spaceworld 97 demo), but then they were cut again, and haven't reappeared ever since.

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear3126 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason you can catch Pokemon in the Gym statues with the Old Rod and Good Rod is that they only have a single encounter table no matter where you are, whereas the Super Rod catches different Pokemon in each area.
    Also thanks for showing me neat creepypastas because I'd only heard of Lavander Town Syndrome, even if it means I can't sleep to the vids. If you fuse Muk and Gengar in Pokemon Infinite Fusion you get Buried Alive, which I found neat.

  • @yunnuc
    @yunnuc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    20:41 hey just in case you were wondering, I’m actually pretty sure the original lip sync video was copyright struck.

  • @vehiclesofpeace
    @vehiclesofpeace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Spikey ear Pichu was a special promo for pre ordering heart gold and soul silver.

    • @ImmaLittlePip
      @ImmaLittlePip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And also a costume in smash bros

  • @Majima_Nowhere
    @Majima_Nowhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IDK what the regional professors expect, of course some pokemon will have creepy pokedex entries if your entire research team is 11 year olds.

  • @637dan
    @637dan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t get how people don’t see Venomoth as Venonats correct evolution, he’s literally purple, and fuzzy. Just like he was when he was a Venonat.

  • @oshkeet
    @oshkeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    1:38:58 Might be a stretch but FLAME type might be a reference to MOERU, which means Burning but also in the sense of Burning Passion or Enthusiasm, especially in the heroic sense. This MIGHT be one reason the fire/fighting type is popular with designers; it often implies the pokemon has a "heroic" personality. Especially contrasting with Dark type, which is straight up "Evil" in Japan.
    IMHO a fun twist on this is Incineroar, who has aspects of fire, fighting, AND dark, since he represents a "heel" wrestler who isn't actually mean.

  • @wp-ww
    @wp-ww 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    i seem to remember getting the GS ball somehow in my US crystal version, and when I tried to give it to Kurt, he wouldn’t accept it, he would just keep repeating what ever the last line is he says when have finished all your events with him normally.

    • @NEScRETRO
      @NEScRETRO  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Every copy of Pokemon Crystal is personalized!

    • @wp-ww
      @wp-ww 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NEScRETRO Oh man wouldn’t that be nuts, hadn’t considered that lol.

    • @gigastrike2
      @gigastrike2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine certainly was. I started with a scyther through hacking.

    • @gabbatorix921
      @gabbatorix921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NEScRETRO wait, HUH?? My copy ran out of “juice” unfortunately :(

  • @jefflabbecomedy
    @jefflabbecomedy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    45:43 well, it takes an entire Squirtle Squad to form an effective fire fighting team. One water type alone can't put out a massive blaze every time. Vaporeon probably tried its best to put out the flames. Jolteon might've panicked, and its fur sparked and might've paralyzed Vaporeon. Poor Flareon didn't burn as quickly, being a fire type. Unfortunately, Flareon was too weak to drag both of its friends out. It's plausible, but now I'm just sad.

  • @DeoraisWhelmed
    @DeoraisWhelmed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Also something to note on Pikachu getting whooped by a snivy is Pikachu had absolutely no electric moves and was sick from Zekrom’s presence. This was also before Pikachu knew iron tail. THATS why he was beat by a low level turd is because he was sick and had no moves.

    • @KingOfVermin
      @KingOfVermin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pikachu knew Iron Tail since the Hoenn Anime