The Archaeology Iceberg Explained
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- I have returned from my four month long hiatus! I hope this 50 minute video makes up for it.
Today, we will explore some of the most bizarre and obscure stories and facts related to the field of archaeology. In this video, I talk about everything from mummies to Giant Aztec Snake statues to Sweet Potatoes to ancient Barbie dolls. I hope you enjoy and learn something new!
00:00 Introduction
00:44 Layer 1
05:28 Layer 2
09:36 Layer 3
15:39 Layer 4
23:17 Layer 5
30:36 The Schliemann Layer
33:49 Layer 7
41:24 Layer 8
Music licensed from Epidemic Sound
All copyrighted images belong to their respective owners. Most images were taken from the Wikimedia Commons under the Creative Commons licenses.
Special thanks to:
MajoraZ
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Dr. David S. Anderson - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Mesoamerican gigachad:
-invents the wheel
-only uses it in children's toys
-refuses to elaborate
@@doctorwhoknows6348 dude wdym it was outside contact that killed them cause contact era europeans were walking plagues
@@doctorwhoknows6348 -Trades sweet potatoes with Polynesians
@@sendmorerum8241 no one asked
The part about no suitable Beasts of Burden to pull them is possible but then why no wheelbarrows or carts?
@@tskmaster3837 If I recall correctly, Tenochtitlan at least had a shit ton of waterways, so you could just move around stuff in canoes! So at least the Aztecs had that covered! Someone will likely correct me if I'm wrong though, since this is just from what I remember in history class.
I love how hilarious the “As per my previous tablet” entry is. You can just tell how mad the guy writing was. “The sesame is visibly dying” is fucking hilarious
Just like emails, people really never change
HAHAHA I knooow I thought it be so formal before but we still the same. I find this funny as it is very relatable😂
Same, man. I can practically hear his voice. “The sesame is *visibly* dying, bro! I didn’t get any water!”
There is an ancient Sumerian receipt said to be one of the oldest written things we have. It's a letter and receipt accusing the copper merchant of selling him an inferior product. People have always tried to get one over on each other.
i love how people have always been the same, and especially petty 🤣
Thanks for adding jazz instead of eerie music that usually get used for no reason.
"Ya like jazz~?"
@@IisLasagnaoh god
I have a story that is similar to the Caligula coffee table one. In the 90s/00s there was an effort by the Ibsen Museum in Oslo to recreate the last apartment that Henrik Ibsen lived in, and turn it into a museum. Most of the items there had been sold or given away, so a lot of effort was put into returning them. One thing in particular they struggled with was finding his bathtub. Eventually it was found on a random farm, where it was used as a water trough for the cows.
Believing that Troy was real when nobody else did, seeing it as his life's mission, defying all odds to actually find it, only to single-handedly destroy it, ironically sounds like a Greek tragedy.
Well it's definitely ironic and it could definitely be seen as tragic in a way similar to a Greek tragedy, but I don't think it's both of those things at once. Rather it's fittingly like a Greek tragedy, I'd say.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe Just be quiet
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe wow that’s a lot of words to say nothing
history is written
Definitely catching strong Herostratus vibes here 🤔
The whole rich people eating mummies thing just fully solidifies my theory that rich people have always been weird.
Not to mention painting with them
Some people have objectively too much money.
Just look at the Hapsbergs for proof of that.
Not just rich but I think it's a result of having more leisure time
it corrupts
I recently took a class on Ancient Egyptian art and I knew that a lot of stuff would be lost, but what surprised me is how many new discoveries are still being found. Watching an archeologist tear up because she might have found evidence of Cleopatra's tomb made it hard for me to be too cynical about what hasn't survived, because there's still so much that did
As a History buff, I really enjoyed this iceberg, and how you debunked some of the ridiculous theories such as aliens in a cold, hard way. Easily one of my favorite icebergs!
Depends on what we mean when we say ''aliens''. I would rather refer to them as human ''neighbours'' from another continent (beyond forbidden 60th parallel) than creatures from the skies.
There's something off with our timeline and all the architecture left behind after the 1890 reset. There is NO WAY the 19th century cart and horse people could have built hundreds of thousands of those colossal capitols and ''Victorian'' buildings and cathedrals at the stage of technological development they were in. Strangely enough, every major city on mother earth has been burnt to the ground in absurd ''great Fires'' and reconstructed within a few years. Totally impossible even nowadays. Any serious study of the official narrative screams utter BS.
He debunked it by calling it racist. Dont call yourself a history buff if thats enough for you.
Im not saying it was aliens, but there is obviously lost technology. We werent cutting tons of granite with mm precision by grinding rocks
And yeah, he perpetuates dumb theories like a black cheddar man
@RenoLaringo if all your houses are simple and made of timber and pitch with no planning or regulations on what you make, I imagine it would both be a lot easier to burn everything down and to build it back up than nowadays. Id wager that might be a bit more likely than aliens from Antarctica doing it (for what reason?!). Literally some common sense and a quick Google search debunks your arguments lol
My favorite archaeological factoid is the story of Ea Nasir. He was basically a babylonian con artist who sold shitty copper. We only know about him because - for some reason - he kept all the complaints people send him via stone tablets
he probably found it funny!
@@laescalera747 I love the idea he's so smug and proud of his con work they were like trophies to him
Lmao, oh now I'm off to dive into another rabbit hole. Thank you for the tidbit stranger
There is a subreddit dedicated to memes about him r/ReallyShittyCopper
i havent read them but what if the copper was actually good and the complaints were from bronze age karens and his collection was the equivalent of youtubers making hate comment compilations today
I like how Schliemann has his own layer, like none of the other topics want to be associated with him in any way.
He was originally in a different layer, but he got confused about where he was and the dynamite damaged too much of it, so he ended up there instead ;)
@@coryman125 that iceberg use to be at least 150 meters larger before Schliemann decided to look for the lost continent of Atlantis.
@@Gildedmuse This is the best joke I've come across in years. Thank you.
Surprisingly many people may not know but the Schliemann layer also exists as the tenth layer of hell. Because when he was sent there he accidentally used too much dynamite and ended making his own level where he now stays forever.
...it's due to the _Schliemalaise_ associated with the man's killegacy...
25:06 I once saw a photo of a native American individual, holding a Katana, whilst wearing what seemed to be foreign clothes, and wearing a revolver along with it the connections this person must’ve had or the conquest experience must’ve been insane
Holy shit where can I find that
@@kingofmtakina look up US military saber versus Tomahawk by scholagladiatoria he shows this photo early in the video probably about like eight minutes or less into the video
Marcus Vance has a TH-cam short on the subject with an additional photo of a separate individual
I'm currently in this archeology rabbit hole thanks to MiniMinuteMan, creators like you and him makes this profession incredibly interesting for outsiders like me
A jdm. The
Minuteman is a prebubecent internet deboonker who cant even grow a beard. Bros argument against ancient recordings of antartica was that pencil maps are dumb. Real clown
That's how I got this video recommended lol
I think it’s weirdly wholesome to know that ancient people acted just like modern humans today. From cavemen making prehistoric animations to entertain themselves to people drawing dicks on things, placing (name) was here everywhere and the medieval boy doodling on his homework and drawing sketches of himself being scolded by his teacher. It’s super neat
Exactly. Time really is just a number. 10 years when you're 10 years old feels like a lifetime, that because it literally is in this relative analogy. 10 years after you're 20 feels like nothing. Just because it seems like forever ago doesn't mean it really was.
Your moms neat
Biggest mistake most people do is to think everyone born before them is worse in every regard. Just think about "inventing fire". If you somehow made all humans to forget all non primal skills how long would it take for fire to start again?
@@markotunjic5384 i like to think about that alot i feel like for a long time we would witness fire as an extreme monster or demon due to fires caused naturally by lightning but the first guy who figures out how to make it and control it would be the coolest kid on the block for sure
remember the wall writings that were basicly proto forum-posting?
History's a damn loop innit
"So much has been lost."
This is the one thing ALL history nerds share and loathe regardless of what part of history we study.
That's the thing about history that sucks, it's the one science where we can't just gather new data.
@@hedgehog3180 I'd never thought of it that way, now I literally can't stop. Damn it, that's so much worse than just "a lot of information was lost".
Mfw no more research can be done without a time machine due to lost, corrupted and destroyed information.
Paleontology shares the same issue, if not to a greater degree - a billion years of evolution, all those unique living things - not only extinct, but often without leaving fossils.
So much has been lost, but we should still be happy with what we could salvage...
It’s what we’ve lost that makes what we do have so precious.
Not just history nerds. Literature lovers weep at the thought of the library of Alexandria or the Tigris running black with ink.
Rivers running red with blood with blood? Sure, heard it, war is terrible, blah blah blah.... Wait, it ran black? Like from pre industrial pollution by waste? Feom... from ink..!? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY DESTROYED ALL THAT WRITING!?
On the sweet potatoe thing. I'm from the island of Samoa. And our word for them is the same as some native America's. And we have a large chocolate culture that we had before european contact, even if scientists keep trying to tell us it was brought over by them haha
wE wuZ KanGz
CleOpaTra WaS bLaCk cUuH
🤡
I saw something interesting about the painting of old statues. Somebody theorized that the recreations of their painting may not be fully accurate because the traces of paint that would survive would be from the base layer. They then showed how minifigures are painted and the base layers of paint often don’t show at all the complexity of the final product which is interesting
Yes, that makes a lot of sense for several reasons. Painting has always been a process of adding a multitude of layers. Why would they approach statues differently? Furthermore, in ye olden days nobody really understood how light and shadow works. So they might have added shadows to their statues (at least the ambient occlusion). Also, they would have been more than capable of depicting patterns, fabric, and other texture. Why would they omit that? And finally: carving such a statue is an immensely time consuming undertaking. Why would anyone, after such a lengthy process, just slap a bunch of colors on the thing and call it a day? I wouldn't be surprised if they took the same amount of time---if not more---painting a statue than carving it.
These things were probably incredibly life-like. Given that, I'd assume there has been way more than just one female statue acquiring "the Stain".
as a historian, one of the hardest things to cope in my profession was "so much has been lost". When I truly grasped how much was lost or just destroyed by the time I got depressed for a full week, 3 years later I still get depressed if I think too much about it
I just try to feel grateful we have anything at all, our understanding of history is far better than it was a couple centuries ago at least. still very depressing tho yea
True dat. The worst part about the loss to me is that a lot of it was destroyed on purpose. It makes me cringe so hard anytime I hear about artifacts, art, books, etc getting intentionally destroyed by some bitchy enemy or invading force.
@@Tetragonoloba destruction is a human artifact, in a sense
It gets even worse when you consider all of prehistory and how little is actually represented by the fossil record
Really makes one wonder how future historians and archeologists will view out era. We've now given a recording device to almost every single human on the planet. Either future historians will either be completed inundated with info about the modern era, so much so that sifting through the bias would be a herculean task, or they'll have only vague summaries because digital recording isn't nearly as reliable as it seems.
It's always bothered me how people think ancient humans were "primitive" and lacked intelligence. They were just as capable, no matter the time period. As one example - just take a look at the Mayan's zeolite water filtration and reservoir system in Tikal. It is impressive even by modern standards.
I feel this comes in some part because "they believed in weird myths!" but the thing is, if you're born in a time before widespread communication or scientific method, literally what could you believe in? Imagine trying to learn the world without Google, you wouldn't know jack.
People don't think that much about history, but it's a genuine wonder we've been able to progress this far and get so connected.
It's not that they lack intelligence, it's that they have less information available to them. How does someone figure out how to lift like 10 ton slabs of rock and place it on top of stonehenge? I can't figure it out, and if you gave me 100 years I'd still never figure it out. I couldn't even make it on my own if you told me exactly how. The only reason why people don't have the same problem accepting marvels of engineering invented over a 100 years ago, like the light bulb or telephone, is because it was recent enough that we have very detailed historical records on how it was done.
@@AshleyWilliamsN7 true
Similar to the walking Moai, the Welsh found clever ways to transport and construct Stonehenge. And I mention that because when the Romans came through and found Stonehenge, they asked the locals what advanced civilization had come there before and built it. And of course they didn't believe the locals saying that they put the stones up.
@@AshleyWilliamsN7 they were moving obsidian slabs over distances 71,000 years ago.
i remember i took an art history class in college that had schliemann’s “mask of Agamemnon” on the cover. when we learned about schliemann and the debated legitimacy of the mask, we were SHOCKED that it had somehow made it to the cover of our Art History Textbook 😭
what gets me the most is exactly the so much has been lost part, like how much we don't get just because we lack the context and have found just a fragment of something that existed thousands of years ago
As a classical art historian, just seeing the name Heinrich Schliemann coming up on the iceberg filled me with visceral rage. It's on sight in the afterlife
I'm actually livid
He's the definition of dumb luck. And it's fade on sight in any afterlife! Lol dude's going to have a line of angry historian's ready to kick his Keister up and down the pearly gates!
Turns out: His personal Hell is literally getting his ass beat by every Archeologist and Historian on their way to Heaven or their respective religious beliefs.
Agreed.
I felt the urge to dislike the video because what he did fills me with rage
i love how the facts get more interesting and niche rather than the usual iceberg tradition of just getting creepier
Icebergs are supposed to be laid out with less known subjects being at the lowest and most known being at the highest, regardless of topic
@@TheTiredPirate Usually the deeper it gets the more conspiracionist it gets though in this type of format.
Glad it wasn't the case (almost the inverse)
And then you get to the Schliemann layer and want to learn how to resurrect the dead... purely to strangle him to death.
Yeah, icebergs are supposed to put less known stuff the deeper you go, but people really suck at getting the themes of things so they started making muh creepy eyes berg
@@singletona082 You are too kind and way too forgiving... Unless the point is further resurrections to repeat and embellish
I am fully on board with the Venus statuette theory. Plus, using a pool to reflect the body would also make it look distorted anyway. Never thought about it as "selfies"... Imagine stone-age tinder was like playing domino ralley.
13:12 I can consider my handwriting as "Unreadable Scripts"
When you hear the smooth jazz and see the video run time, that’s when you know you’re in for a good one.
It’s always amazing to see one of your favorite TH-camrs watching one of your other favorite TH-camrs. Thanks for the fantastic content emperortigerstar 😁
You know it
The tiger has arrived
Fancy seeing another favorite here.
I'm surprised you haven't made a geography iceberg lol.
Getting all the way to layer 8 and hearing about the the cursed grilled cheese was like seeing an old best friend in a room full of interesting strangers.
You typed "the" twice
@@No-cs2xf Yes
@@No-cs2xf Yes
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Yes
I had this video in my “watch later” for over a year and finally caved into to watching it and I really wish I did sooner, as a history enthusiast, it’s so fascinating to see what differences us and people of the past had, as well as the SCARY similarities, I still see kids write “I was here” on random school properties or graffiti still being a concept, so interesting, though it’s scary to think one day our modern society could end up in the same vein as ancient relics within hundreds of thousands of years, if we were to lady that long, or maybe another sentient race will come along… OR ALIENS-
I am here to inform you that "creeping feathered serpent shadow" can be sung to the tune of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I work as a carpenter and I always write “xavier was here” somewhere where it can’t be seen when we’re framing I hope someone discovers them in 500 years
Nice lmao. It reminds me a bit of my Mom's old job. My mom used to work at a building that was once an old factory building (that was converted to like mixed use space, like stores and apartments). There's all sorts of graffiti on the walls literally going back decades. She's found names with dates from the 1910s up to the 1980s.
i doubt that humanity would last that long
In a few hundred years there’s going to be an obscure “Xavier Mystery” of the same persons signing being in many places. This comment is probably going to be traced a few years after the mystery becomes somewhat popular. Good job, you just fueled future peoples fascination
@@ozymandias3456 he better sell them in other countries to really _sell_ the mystery
@@zenushi9ray866 oh it will, the question is how civilized will we be haha
Some of those reminded me of Agatha Christie saying that royal artifacts are nice and all, but that the best archaeological findings are ordinary items from ordinary people, because they tell you how life at the time ACTUALLY was without the pomp and protocol, and you always ends up finding that, for the common folk, the day to day aspects of life are very often quite relatable.
Reminds me of that one Bronze Age tablet of a guy complaining about the shitty ingots he was sold.
Exactly
My favorite example of this is how much people from medieval eras actually mocked nobility and priests en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabliau while we're depicting everyone from those times as prude, ultra religious doormat peasants, they were making scatological jokes
@@redeye4516 that sounds interesting lmao, where did you heard/know of it? i would love to know more
@@seaweedwithrice It's the story of Ea Nasir. A comment lower mentions he was basically a Babylonian con artist who sold shitty copper. We only know about him because - for some reason - he kept all the complaints people send him via clay tablets. Can be found on Wikipedia.
The snake statue may have been very easy to loose when you consider that the US military lost an 86 ton tank in a small bush in a field for 20 years
The tank must've had some damn good camo /j
@@JunpakuKarasu i believe it was unpainted
The lost Giant Aztec Snake Statue entry really intrigues me like it really makes you wanna go back in tims to truly see what became of it
I like how you can clearly hear Trey holding his laughter when he read the "as per my previous tablet" piece.
I love reading stuff like that, reminds us that even in ancient times people were still just regular people with regular issues.
my sesame is dying
Timestalp
THE SESAME WILL DIE!!!!
Life as we know it will end forever
@random boy How dare you
@@Scrufflord Don't I didn't tell you MY SESAME IS DYING. THEY WILL DIE.
The worst part of archaeology is the more you learn the less you know, there will always be a plethora of information that is out of reach or lost during each era. So many questions that can never be answered.
this is applied to everything
What is your pfp tffff
Also the best part of archaeology.
I tell myself, that when I'll die, I will know the answers 😂
it's ritual
THE PAINTED PARTHENON?!?!?!? Oh my GOSH what I wouldn’t GIVE to go back in time to see that…also, the first female statue that had color on it reminded me almost of how some Russian Nesting Dolls are painted. I know that’s probably coincidence but I think that makes it cooler - even though there are different places and times, there are very similar underlying threads in music, art, culture, and so on…
This was great and I was surprised at how many I knew! Being a student of archaeology for the last 40 years or so, I have read a lot and so much of this really was a trip down memory lane for me. Schliemann in particular was a field of study for me and I have a lot of books about him and one of just his letters My favorite, however, that wasn't mentioned was how Sir Arthur Evans is said to have repainted Knossos to what he thought it should look like. And how it moved things around to take pictures so that it looked nicer. He was weird.
OF COURSE the most expensive antiquity ever sold is a piece of ancient furry art. Some things never change.
NFTs be like: buy this piece of trash for $3.7 million
worlds most expensive nft
@@Ultima-2000 hey do not disrespect the honest and good-heated trade-art of commissioning horny animals by comparing to that soul-less, crypto-bro-ass, glorified ponzi scheme
furry art was here before and shall be long after nfts are forgotten
Fun fact in some areas here in Greece there were "domesticated" non-venomous snakes in houses as pest control before the import of cats from Egypt
Sources? Not because I don't believe you, but because I want to see the hilarious art that is sure to ensue lmao
And I thought my Chihuahua was badass
@@johanps4893 He is, Johan. He is.
lets bring back non-venomous or mildly venomous snakes (native ofc lets not mess the ecosystem even more) as pest control
I knew my idea from years ago wasn't stupid
There weren’t any cats in Greece? Huh
That boo effect got me to like instantly oml that was funny. I really love your work, your voice is great and you’re more linear than others I’ve watched before
What I like most about this video is, that you make clear what is real and what is not and whats controversial. From my knowledge, I couldnt find everything factually wrong in this video, which is great! :)
The thing that really hurts is that Schliemann is just the most awful example in recent memory. There's no telling how many guys like him were running around long before him fucking up priceless pieces of history
Hell, think of the Valley of the Kings, which only exists because in like 1500 BC Egyptian Pharaohs noticed THEIR ancient ancestors' giant pyramid tombs were getting looted and robbed, and they didn't want that happening to them. Fucking up priceless pieces of history is so time honored, it predates most priceless pieces of history
He's as bad as ISIS.
Julius Caesar helped In the destruction the Library of Alexandria lol. That to me is one of the most unforgivable acts anyone ever did in history.
and yet he is well known (tv shows with "Schliemann" in the title etc.). People with money can do anything in still be famous in history, doesnt matter how much harm they really did.
Tbh I feel like everyone knows that was kinda the standard for around those times... Just greedy and horrendous people
It’s quite comforting how similar and “human” past humans were. I’ve always been under the ignorant impression that past humans were animalistic and stupid. It seems as though humans have always been intelligent and creative, funny, and warm. All the faults of past humans are still present in our societies.
Perfectly said
omg yes i think about that all the time
Were you just born last week or something? I guess my hope was too high that this was common knowledge. I apologize.
The next layer of THAT iceberg is that many animals are way more intelligent than we give them credit for. Corvids are smarter than we used to think cavemen were. Chimps engage in commerce and fashion of an extremely limited sort, and we knew for a while already that they can learn sign language. It's arguable that elephants follow an animistic pre-religion. Many animals are past the line many of us draw for personhood, so are they people? Or will we move the goalposts to, say, "must be hominid" or "must exhibit ubiquitous tool use?" Because basically all apes meet those. Tool manufacture? That depends on what you consider manufacture, and corvids will modify objects too, albeit not physically capable of things like flint knapping. I could go on, but this comment's already long and this aluminum skullcap's getting itchy.
@@NieroshaiTheSable The sign langauge thing has been proven to be false fyi
this will always be one of my favourite falling asleep listening to-explainings
thank you trey :3
One of the reasons why I love studying archeology is even when we don't have all the answers, sometimes it can still inspire good fiction.
the story of two brothers, mocked as boiler boys, having adventures all over the ancient world is absolutely the stuff of legends
They should make it into a TV show unironically, it would be a great story
Like a real life Don Quixote
@@leserpentvert3364 I don't think you've ever read Don Quixote...
@@mercistephens7325 Okay, I’ll admit the links are tenuous.
Two brothers … just two brothers
I... genuinely loved this iceberg. Mostly because it's actually researched and relevant to us as people
@@pufflepoint send the Mario 64 LARP fanfic iceberg please
And it also has funny entry titles every so often, which is pretty uncommon for iceberg memes
@@VGMASRFY let us not forget a whole ass layer dedicated to Schliemann
Diehold Foundation and Mudfossils university on TH-cam
Broaden your interests
It's nice to see that even thousands of years ago we still had a tendency to do random things in the spur of the moment, some dude was in this random place and decided to do the infamous " {name} was here ". I also appreciate the random doodles they did whenever they were bored.
Mate I thoroughly enjoyed that. As a lover of history and ancient megalithic sites I thank you for providing such an awesome video. Ive never even heard about that giant snake statue. We need to find that.
What fascinates me about Schliemann is how he found Troy despite the fact most scientists thout it dosen't even existed. It's like someone today ventured to find El Dorado, Hyperborea or Hollow Earth entrance and succeded. What a madlad.
We know where hyperborea is
@@feasthomer
In our hearts.
@@feasthomer you tell em GG
@@feasthomer in the heroin stash GG
and then proceeded to blow the place up.
I can picture Schliemann saying “How could they say that I’ve destroyed Greek artifacts!? I love Greek culture! My wife is Greek!”
It's like the republicans who go "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!" lmao
@@pcpolice2518 "I'm not a racist, look, see! I'm part of a group that calls ourselves Anti-Racists! Don't mind that we promote hiring and firing people based on their skin color, that's not racism!"
Or
"You can't tell me I'm acting like a fascist, I'm in Anti-Fascist Action! I just attack people in the streets and vandalise businesses when they don't use symbology from or support the movements that make up my side of the isle!"
@@joshuavidrine889 It's really easy to murder a straw man, huh?
@@benadrylcumberbun It's really easy to slap an "insert fallacy" label on something that makes you uncomfortable or goes against your ideology, isn't it?
@@joshuavidrine889 ratio
hi trey idk if you even read comments for this any more but I wanted to say thanks for this vid. i have trouble sleeping and this video without fail puts me to sleep, something about your voice and the way i have it pretty much memorised !! maybe I’ve just conditioned myself lol. i’ve watched it pretty much every night for months now and its literally never failed! the vid is also just great and entertaining i skip to a random part every night so i can hear some different facts. ty again
12:01 I love how it looks like someone was playing a old game of ticktacktoe
I'm on the second layer and I'm already blown away by the "cave art was primitive animation" entry. That's so unbelievably cool, especially since they managed it with such a "simple" technique.
especially because that's a smear, an actual animation technique
humans really have not changed
Perhaps it's also a representation of a herd. Jus sayin'.
@@forrestgreene1139 First thing that came to my mind, the description of many animals together.
Just like you draw skyscrapers on top of each other to describe a big city.
...allegedly
There's a documentary about whether Australian Aborigines could have reached Tierra Del Fuego, at the tip of South America and settled there. They showed a rock carving of what looks like a line of men holding spears facing another man; the man at the front of the line stabs the lone man. They reckon it's a "strip cartoon" of one man advancing on another and then killing him.
I've got it on video somewhere; must see if I can convert it and upload it
Absolutely in love with the “i was here” and the cracked stone obelisk, because I can just imagine some Viking reaching up as high as he can manage on whatever structure he was on and shakily writing his name like a middle schooler writing his name on the underside of the bleachers, or the mental image of a commissioned egyptian stone mason who just got a new commission from the government, and the new hire accidentally cracks the thing while it was 40% done so you just go whatever the regional equivalent of “...shit” is because now you *know* you aren’t gonna make the commission on time now.
It all just feels so god damned human.
And us talking thousands of years later about it. Just shows how sucsesful his Plan was💀😂
my favourite one is the inscription found in an odd place in a cave. It is basically scratched into the wall where it almost meets the ceiling in a very high place. People climbed up there, to find what ancient wisdom he may have left for these brave explorers. After diligently taking their photos and after translation, they found out it said:
"This place is pretty high, huh?"
@@annadashawnabrownxixirxirs8419 😂😂😂
So there is a funny story behind the viking graffiti on the Hagia Sophia. Apparently the people who studied the Sophia didn't know it was Runes until, now don't quote me on this I could be wrong, the advent of the internet. The story I remember is that they thought it was some sort of forgotten form of mesopotamian or mediterainian language until a chance meeting with a archeologist of scandinavia mentioned it was runes offhandedly. It turned out there were a couple of such bits of graffiti on the temple.
@@PenumbranWolf I find that hard to believe that people working on studying the Hagia Sophia in the time of the early internet didn't know about the Varangian guard. The Byzantine emperors employed Scandinavians that had gone a-Viking, travelling south mostly via rivers, and ended up in Greece being paid handsomely as a personal elite imperial guard for quite a while.
I could be wrong. This knowledge might have been lost to the people living and working in Istanbul at some point, but them not knowing this by the early to mid-nineties and calling it some lost Mesopotamian script seems to me more like something an overly enthusiastic but ill-informed tour guide would tell tourists.
ottoman empire: NOOO! YOU CANT BLOW UP WHATEVER YOU FIND!
schliemann: do you think my wife would like these jewels
I'm just seeing this a year old, but I gotta congratulate and thank you. This was a GREAT piece and must have been a ton of work. Great job,! Very entertaining
Hey thank you so much! That really means a lot. I'm so happy to hear you enjoyed it!
Imagine you're an ancient Egyptian pharaoh (named Tutankhamun) and you watch a star literally fall from the sky. You'd imagine that it holds some kind of crazy power, but when you investigate, you find a smoking hot rock, so you have your best blacksmith forge this fallen star into a ceremonial dagger that you take to your tomb and it turns out to be lame old iron
Ok but
King tuts meteor dagger is a killer boss wepon
@@CARILYNF True lol
It was the strongest metal known at the time though, they probably looked at it like we would look at captain America's shield in modern times(if adamantium existed)
Tbh, he probably just found a cool rock had it made into a knife. He probably never knew it was made of iron, let alone from a meteorite. That meteorite probably crashed onto earth hundreds of years before him, and he just found a fragment of it.
He had a dagger forged from the heart of a fallen star, and you call THAT lame? That's some mythical level shit!
A one HOUR trey the explainer video?! It really is a Christmas miracle.
Hehe ^^
A hour long video with a gay caveman conversation somewhere hidden within it!
Santa came early this year.
Well, that sounds misleading!
@@TREYtheExplainer plz make more longer videos!
Omg this didnt feel like an hour
Thank you so much for this video- you’ve done genuinely a great job/ piece.
i remember learning about Schliemann in high school! we watched a documentary about him and after each one of this blunders the class would go NOOOOOO in an increasingly more distressed tone
I love collective emotional moments like this, especially when in school
Appropriate response honestly
oh myyyy this is hilarious and totally relatable HAHAHAHA
Imagine someone who doesn't know that the Star Wars crew left their props in the desert and they just come across this abandoned ship.
I would be crying and shitting myself if I came across the krayt dragon skeleton
@@registrado54 or in 500 years someone finds a lightsaber prop
Fascinating 😯. I heard about the ancient Roman statues and buildings being colourful a few years back in a super interesting doco. I forget the name of it though but am reminded to find out. LOVE archeology. Thanks for the fab video!
My dad, brothers, and I put a kitchen island into a house my parents used to own when I was about 14. We put a photo of our family, a letter with a short description of us, and a copy of the Bible with $50 under the cover in the hands of a skeleton from spirit Halloween; all of which we left inside of the island in a part you can only access after removing the marble countertop.
Wtf cares. Your dad owned the house…not “we”.
@@PeterGibbonns you must be a load of fun at parties.
"it's ritual" being the Archeological equivalent of the "it depends on the species" I was taught as a Biologist warms my heart 🥺
is eugenics popular amongst biologists
@@youtubeuser206 in Canada
@@youtubeuser206 depends on the species
“Its ✨symbolism✨” in literature
that and the "close female friends buried together" thing...
I like to imagine that the Voynich manuscript is genuinely fictitious. That the author made the entire thing as his little fantasy world with a whole fantasy language. Like an ancient Tolkien.
I think that's the generally accepted consensus right now, since so many of the things depicted within the manuscript, such as most/all of the fauna, simply do not exist on Earth. It is definitely fun bait for conspiracy theories or a spark for fiction stories, though.
its thought to be a womens health manual written in an invented language because the church wouldnt handle the information in it well
Wasn't it written in a premative form of Turkish ?
that would be pretty cool
I wish we could read it though
@@azkiin601 No.
Great video man, really relaxing and interesting too!
i really loved the angry sesame farmer's message, he made me laugh, i hope i can be as assertive as him in my life 😂
It's always refreshing to see that despite being thousands of years apart, doodling on homework, bragging about lifting and shitposting on bathroom walls remains just as common. Time may be moving forward but some things never change
You can't even ritually slaughter animals now.
@@dreyri2736 Qurban is still a thing in many Countries
The material world changes with time, the human spirit does not
@@dreyri2736 what the hell's stopping you form dedicating fresh hunt to gods above in a ritual sacrifice?
Times change people dont
Schliemann actually stole the location of the Troy site from another archaeologist called Frank Calvert. The only reason Schliemann was able to go ahead with the digs was because he had enough capital - and a complete disregard for following the rules. Calvert thought at first that Schliemann was just going to fund the digs and he would lead them; instead Schliemann took it over, gained all the glory, stole a lot of the finds, and nearly destroyed the site. The relationship between the two was understandably rocky after that, with Schliemann being a complete ass of an ingrate. I often wonder how superior our knowledge of Troy would be now if it was Calvert who'd been in charge of the site.
Damn! 😬 Weirdly, when I was learning about archaeology in the 1990s none of the sources I read (mostly intended for general audiences) commented on any of that, OR on his atrocious field methods... all they hyped up was his finding the site of Troy. Seems very strange in retrospect - were the authors trying to brush the less respectable antecedents of their field under the rug??
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 I don't think the authors were intentionally trying to bury the truth. The trouble is that Schliemann was such a flamboyant character, and he actively tried to bury Calvert's involvement in the discovery of Troy... like, he completely omitted Calvert's role from his diaries, and made it seem like the discovery was all his, so he got all the glory. I think his skullduggery was eclipsed by the awesomeness of his find, and the fact that he was a great self-promoter. If you want to learn more, there's a great book on it called 'Finding the Walls of Troy' by Susan Heuck Allen, which I really recommend. 😊
and literally 0 evidence to support this theory lol
@@99Plastics read 'Finding the Walls of Troy' by Susan Heuck Allen. Plenty of evidence based on primary sources in there. I really recommend it to anyone interested in the discovery of Troy.
You can just wonder thanks to schliemann. he is the historical textbook representation of the people on twitter who say zoosexual is an actual sexuality.
Im diggin the content bro! I need more details tho lol. I know that goes against your content lol. U could make a whole hour long video on each thing u hit on. I appreciate the shortness. Very informative. Looks like i found another content creator to listen to during my 12 hour shifts at work
42:50 We know since the 70s that old Polynesian societies possessed some insane navigational skills and had boats that could easily make the crossing
The "as per my previous tablet" and "bybon's stone" somehow made me realize that our ancestors were, well, humans! School books and articles always seemed to depict ancient humans as animals, irrational or incomprehensible. Seeing silly stuff I'd do myself connects me to a 10000 year old man who lifted a rock.
It’s kind of strange that the human spirit has survived for so long
@@JavierEscuella1911 the indomitable human spirit shall not be defeated by the cruel universe
Hate to break it to you, but even modern civilisations can be rather weird, like Egyptians with the genital mutilation of their children. What's to say of the human sacrifices in Cartage and Mesoamerica?
- Adûnâi
Nice to know that passive-aggressive bureaucracy has always existed since the invention of writing.
@@rayanderson5797 probably longer tbh
Part of what I love about the terracotta warriors was that they were so insignificant to Emperor Qin Shi Huang that they weren't included in the historical record books which is why we were so shocked when we discovered them. I just love that this man had so many side burial pits that he was like 'oh this room full of hand-crafted individual figurines, we can just not include that it's whatever'
Maybe he omitted it to plan a surprise party for those who would open it later lol
@@hadesoneiroi I love that idea so much 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
actually them not being included could have been an attempt to prevent looting
@@kekero540 interesting point. I haven’t heard it looked at like that before that’s a really good idea!
@@doodle7342 they are also quite useless for a tomb looter to find.
Watched it all the way. Great video! ❤
You make some great content. Wishing for a part 2
I love how instead of it getting creepy the iceberg gets more interesting and makes you curious. Also I like how light hearted this video feels and the few jokes sprinkled here and there. Makes me feel more comfy lol. Keep up the good work my dude!
09:33 "oh hi doggy"
Edit: time stamp
i know i hate watching these iceberg videos that keep me awake at night. This is the content i enjoy. Although the song that played on the transitions spooked me a bit
I agree
@@realleechan THIS! I want to see interesting icebergs like this. Not some stuff that will make me depressed and scared.
@@comicfan8350 like dawg i came to learn, not to shit my pants before bed
I like how the whole "I will not water my sesame fields" are essentially telling the person who received them that they shouldn't come running back to them when they have no food
i promised myself i wouldn't watch the entire thing, and then ended up doing the exact opposite. absolute quality content man, keep it up 🙌
Ur vids help me sleep i love learning new facts❤
idk the "Halfdan was here" (and other little ephemera like it) gets me every time. It's hard to say what Halfdan himself felt when he carved it, and it's unlikely he knew it would stand as a declaration of personhood that would survive for over a thousand years, but it's impossible for me to not get teared up over it. A human being who otherwise has been erased entirely by the decaying hand of time, but nevertheless is survived by a tiny metaphorical fingerprint smudged in the sand, reminding us that he once lived.
"Halfdan was here" You sure were buddy, you sure were.
I enjoyed your comment but pull yourself together man!
Would it be weird to sorta
. . . Truman show?
Like people talk about aliens possibly being just watchers what if we did that and every time he had a win in his life we're like "yeah you get it man" but like non-interactive probes that are way too far away for him to see
The excitement is palpable
I think you'd love the 30 or so engravings in the Maes Howe burial chamber in Orkney, Scotland.
My favourite is found high up on the ceiling: _"Tholfir Kolbeinsson carved these runes high up"_
At some point I'm gonna do the same thing, I'm gonna find a big granite rock in central Europe and carve that I was there into it + where I was from and what year.
I feel the exact same looking at the ancient Roman graffitis. So many people, so many little lives as colorful and dramatic and as plenty as any, that we just catch a glimpse of.
The "Boiler Boys" potentially traveling thousands of miles from Mesopotamia to modern day India, then thousands MORE miles all the way to Germany, in/around the year 235 AD is actually mind-blowing.
Precontact dogs is the video that brought me to your Chanel
@@mickdipiano8768 your comment is very mysterious. Who are you talking to, why, and what does Chanel have to do with anything? Who influenced you to buy a purse?
One of my favorite books "The Long Ships" by Frans G Bengtsson is basically about this. A badass Scandinavian guy is enslaved into Vikingry and ends up traveling clear across Europe. Really enjoyable historical fiction :D
@@norgepalm7315 Chanel is a purse!?
I thought it was a perfume.
Also, ignore the possible time -traveler.- tourist
@@Outthere115 Also probable, since the Vikings ended up as the Eastern Roman Emperor's bodyguard's
hearing the beginning of "gay caveman" made me roll my eyes so hard, your criticisms of the portrayal of the story in media made me feel so much better I feel content, it was much more likely a gnc/transgender individual
Are you woke
@@everywhereman1238 I am awake that is how I am typing this
@@cowboymaxwell I like to sleep sometimes but I do enjoy being awake to do most activities.
'gnc/transgender individual' didn't exist back then.
gay and effeminate is far more likely
While I haven't done very extensive research, my theory behind the ancient flutes made between 30 and 40 thousand years ago are that they went along with the cave paintings to tell a story. It's hard to make bird sounds with your voice, but a flute makes it easier. I think that soon after they made these flutes, they used them to mock bird mating calls to trap birds, but when it didn't work well, they would bring the flutes with them to recreate bird calls to others, which evolved into music
I’m actually blown away by the coffin paintings, genuinely thought they were from the renaissance era, was there more classical art that was painted that beautifully? Or is it lost to time now?
there's written accounts of greek authors describing paintings and painters of their time, suggesting it was as lifelike as their sculptures (the coffin paintings shown in the video would likely come from the greek tradition, since they date to roman egypt, where there'd been a lot of cultural hellenization). There's practically no surviving examples of canvas paintings from that era, though, since in most conditions (other than being buried in desert sand) neither tempera paint nor canvas are particularly long-lived materials in the scale of time we're working with.
there are some frescoes that survive to the present day which exhibit amazing technique. i know there are early classical italic paintings in campania and a decent number of hellenistic paintings throughout the old greek world, but the best are from the early 1st c. bc in pompeii and herculaneum.
It was preserved very well because they're from Egypt. I think it was painted on Papyrus. If you look at ancient roman mosaics, some of those are also well done, so the idea of them painting a human face early reconnaissance level isn't unthinkable due to art skills. Certainly is awesome.
@@zogwort1522 art snobs have been plaguing humanity since early civilisation it seems 💀
@@zogwort1522 Plato was a fucking dork then apparently.
What irritates me about the whole "ancient statues used to be painted" is that their recreations are so bland and flat. Like those are just the base colors, I'm sure there were other paints and pigments over top that added shading and other details.
"We are letting legendary Phidias carve the Parthenon for us, it will be known throughout the world for it's genius!"
"Aye sir, and who should we have paint it afterwards?"
"Eh, some sugar hyped five year olds."
I agree, they looked a lot more beautiful and elegant without paint, imo.
they probably dont have enough data to know the finer details, only the basic colors
Truuuuueeee
@@anarchy_79
Lol
Nonetheless... friendly reminder that "sugar rush" doesn't really exist, that's just American folklore.
43:00 once reading about chicken breeds I saw south american chicken breeds called araucan chickens that are supposed to have been brought from Polynesian islands.
the complaint tablet to Ea-nasir about fake copper ignots is lately my favourite pice of archeological find, sad to see it was not in the iceberg :(
The lost Aztec serpent statue? Simply apply occam's razor here: the snake wasn't one of the statues in the exhibit. It was just an actual giant snake that showed up to the exhibit and ate a guy, and that's what the sketches are depicting
Is this supposed to be funny
@@adonaiyah2196 get a life
@@osamintv6135 get a sense of humour
@@adonaiyah2196 You got a shiny glass house buddy
@@adonaiyah2196 get ratioed
The 'blasting with dynamite' technique of archaeology was used by Walcott when he was searching for Burgess Shale specimens as well. If I remember correctly, it is now thought that the blasting muddled together different layers of creatures that would not have coexisted. Walcott, not realising this, documented them as being from the same layer. If it's true that they're separate, that means that the Burgess Shale exhibit at the Tyrell Museum is not accurate. (It's still one of my absolute favourite exhibits though.)
"If ye like bownes and deenamyte, why not combine them, eh?"
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH what the fuck are you talking about
Dude, the Burgess Shales are an extensive area that have been excavated since its discovery more than 100 years ago. Walcott's findings were completely discredited , and nothing he proposed is accepted as true in 2021. All his mistakes have been obliterated by the facts.
@@Chris.Davies heh. obliterated.
@@adonaiyah2196 Presumably is attempting a mockery of an accent
The cookie jars in Laos were probably used to collect rainwater. My Thai great grandmother has a similar shaped jar in her garden
I laughed out loud when you said "Donkey Headed Jesus" because iy sounds like something my dad would say when he stubs his toe
I don't think I've ever been so personally angry at a historical figure than at Schliemann
I wanna go back in time, grab him by the shoulders and just shake him, yelling "why are you like this?!"
At the beginning of that layer I was angry, but by the end I was laughing in disbelief.
That's intentional I think. The way academics talk about him seems curated to produce hate. He's undeniably portrayed a specific way. He absolutely made huge mistakes out of ignorance in how to properly handle artifacts, something thats actually not uncommon in earlier archeology. I think what the crux of the issue really ends up being is that he humiliated the established academics of his time by actually discovering something they emphatically denied existed. There's a rather long history (no pun intended) of those in academia downplaying, stealing or demonizing the work of those outside of it. To have an amateur so publicly prove them wrong would be unacceptable. There's nothing so petty as a butthurt academic. A more balanced discussion of his work would acknowledge that his discovery was almost certainly the impetus for a number of other digs involving sites that the academic establishment had deemed nonexistent. People may hate him but his discovery of Troy was ultimately a shift in perspective that the field of archeology desperately needed. His influence was enormous.
Maybe a person like Schliemann was needed to find ancient Troy.
im so mixed on him. one if he didn't do what he did, i wouldn't have a job (i study troy) but also, so much of my work is lost. but also, baller for him to go against the common notion that troy was fake
9:30 The same applies to medieval armour. The Victorians have given us the idea of bright, polished steel armour but in reality they would have been painted with the colours of their house, to match their standards. There are a very small number of surviving suits of armour with the paint intact.
To top it off, gluing on a layer of fabric was pretty common. As is true for much of Medieval fabrics, these were usually very colorful and bright instead of undyed or dark.
Tbh most medieval armour was just metallic metal, andmost of the colour was from tabards, shields and banners etc. There is examples of painted armour but they're the exception not the rule.
Great video! Some really good commentary and explanations.
one of, if not the best iceberg videos i've ever seen
"The Greeks invented orgies. The Romans added women"
-My dad, when asked his thoughts on weird history/archaeology
ayoo
Greeks were gamers
Fake. Greeks were very homophobic
@@enriquepenanieto4398 I didn't claim it was real, I claimed it as my dad's thoughts on weird history/archaeology
@@fotherphrogg ik im just saying the narrative is fake
The main thing I learned was that I knew a hell of a lot more about archaeology than I originally though.
I realized that I didn't know nearly enough. What a great video.
Boom 666th like
Nice, I love hearing your opinion on every single one
37:14 this is genuinely so funny I love “and finally die” felt so hard BAHAHAHAHA
The "viking was a job description" thing is actually relatively common knowledge here in scandinavia. At least it's not as obscure as the other things in that tier. In school in sweden we learnt about the viking ages, how people lived etc, but they were just pre-christian nordic people. "viking" was never an ethnic description.
i think it is pretty common knowledge outside of North America. I am a new zealander and live in Australia, and it is a fairly well known thing
Well, this iceberg probably was made from the North American point of view. For example for us Russians, Onfim doodles and birch barks letters as a whole is Level 1-2 knowledge, but a lot of stuff from this Iceberg's first levels is generally unknown.
I thought viking was the ethnicity of those guys on the TV who wear the purple clothes and throw the ball in Minnesota
Vikings weren't from around europe though. They were almost entirely Scandinavian.
@@vasculus3152 That is not technically true. Parts of Ireland, France, Russia, Scotland, England were under their direct control, whilst they also affected large parts of the rest. FFS they even served the Byzantine Emperor as his personal Varangian Guard.