If the EU counts that as non-compliance, they can charge Apple a fine of 20% of its worldwide revenue. That would be more than $75 billion. Sounds excessive, but remember that the US charged Volkswagen a fine of $30 billion. Huge companies need huge fines. Otherwise they will just laugh and continue.
And even if you're using an alternative payment processor, Apple will take 17% for doing absolutely nothing other than displaying that scary warning on the screen. LOL Wowwza, they really fell off their rockers yo!
I wonder how they'll enforce it, though? Going to be quite hard for *Apple* to see that I've made a payment through Facebook Pay if I execute the payment from my *Linux* desktop PC... 😉
@@dieseldragon6756 apple wants every app developer to "notarize" their apps before making them available on any app store. Which basically means they will read the whole code and if there are any indications or instructions related to making payments outside of the app, then they will ban that app, like they did with Epic. So they can easily enforce it. Only when other app stores and apps work independently of Apple, can they do what they want to do, else everyone has to follow apples rules and any deviation will result in their apps being kicked out of iOS. It's very dangerous precedent being set by a platform company. Apple is testing the limits of walled gardens and people will realise just how much contril these companies will have over them and will move to competitors who incentivise by being more open. Unfortunately it takes time for a normal, non tech-saavy customer to realise how evil they are and how much harm they are causing ( or simply how much extra money they are being extracted, which they need not have to pay if it's non apple device) Imagine Netflix or someother app with exactly same content, or games or digital services, but customers on apple are paying more than Android users😂😂😂😂. That should wake them apple fans
They got the idea from the US Federal government - who charges US citizens tax on income that had absolutely nothing to do with the USA to people who don't live there
I so wish that IPA referred to something other than one of the dodgiest bits of legislation my country has ever tried to enact...🍎🍻🙃 (Personally? I like to think of it as *_InterCity_*_ Pale Ale_ 🚄🍻😉💨)
@@rajeshbedi They sort of are. The EU said that they would fight companies that are not following the spirit of the DMA. They didn't specifically say Apple, but it's obvious who they're talking about
They should just ban Apple from the EU because of this shit for one day and see how Apple users react (probably buying an Android immediately). I mean the EU could easily disable all Apple services via DNS (including stores and other features). I would like that. Much more effective than requesting them to pay a fine.
Apple could easily implement a simple sideloading mechanism with some warnings before enabling it and sand-boxing the apps to avoid any privacy and security issues (which is BS anyway). But no, they wanna be jerks and collect money even when downloading from elsewhere. The icing on the case is that they wanna charge 17% for using alternative payment processors by doing absolutely nothing, just sit back and watch the money roll in. Wow, their stupid arrogance and greed is mind boggling.
I love how they said "if you build an app store that doesn't have anything to do with or have any relation to us, we'll be forcing that relation, because we can".
Did you enjoy that random "what's a computer" line? I don't get that one. Apple themselves sell computers. Or are Macs now somehow not computers? Literally every device apple makes is technicalities a computer anyway
@@Danarchy3 that doesn't even make sense. Does f-droid have anything to do with google? Do i have something to do with google because i made an android app? Do you have anything to do with your stock exchange because you bought stocks? If you mod a ford, or you make custom parts and mods for a ford, do you have something to do with Ford? If you make a project build and got a ford chassis, its ford platform. But if you make a project build on fords platform do you have something to do with ford? No you dont. Maybe not the best analogy there but again, it doesn't make sense. This is apple doing apple things with force to their convenience. Whether we like it or not doesnt matter.
@darktitan8085 your missing one key point. If you build a product that isn't Ford and put it on a Ford chassis you are correct, you have nothing to do with Ford. That's not what's happening here. Your now trying to sell your not Ford/Ford and your trying to do it in the Ford show room. Now you have something to do with Ford
@@Danarchy3 disagree. You're not selling not a ford in a ford showroom. Apple has to maintain the app store same like how google maintains the play store. Theyre right to charge a commission to the app's sales and in app purchases. Third party stores are not maintained by apple, so what gives them the right to charge and monitor others? Its like saying if a certain person offers modded parts for a ford should charge a commission to that person's business. Doesn't make sense. Ford didnt make those parts. If i put a different ecu on my motorcycle, it doesnt make the manufacturer eligible to take a percentage of the profit or put regulations on what ecu should be offered just because its their engine and their chasis. The point is, what percentage of the customer base will go to that alternative? Hardly many. So its a losing game either way. Apple wants to control everything about their product. Its been their intention since the very beginning. They'll go on doing that in the name of "user protection and privacy". Whether you want that or not is irrelevant but dont try to forge their intentions by playing some morality game about who should decide what. App devs wont decide to put their apps outside the app store, they may offer something for a lesser price on their website or something at best, so again, its just what apple wants, not what anyone else wants or cares about. App store will still be a better experience anyway, so why do you care about defending their decision? Just take windows for example. Ms takes commissions from the store they maintain. But if you download the app from browser, does it make ms eligible to regulate your app just because its on windows? Makes no sense. Ms can give guidelines on what to do, such as to make the experience better, they cant force and regulate others. Same with mac os. So if youre ok doing that there why come and fight for their decisions on the iphone?
Of course it will say no. Especially now, that Apple tried to mock EU. They tried to require MFI chips on usb-C cables for iPhones, but EU just said "No, Apple. Go F*** yourself."
@@MisterRose90 Well, first, it's in my plans, but for another reason... then, even if I had an Android, I just want this big tech company to shut the hell up and comply to rules, and stop with their bullsh*t. No need to be aggressive... I don't use Facebook ad I was still very happy when the EU had them comply to the data protection rules ! And in this case, Apple is playing a despicable game... and whether the EU agrees with this joke or not will show if they really can show strength...
@alzalia_ no. I dont like apple either, but they are an american company, and they can do what they want within reason. If you don't like that, don't give them your hard earned money. If everyone else thought the same way, then apple would have no choice but to do what the market wants or go out of business. Or they can pull out of your market. Either way. Exercise your right as a consumer to tell them to fuck off.
I think you forgot that $600,- only gives you a 2TB SSD for the first 24 months. Once you hit that point it costs an additional $49,-/month to keep it at 2TB, else it „magically“ turns into a 2MB one... 😉
@@Raptor3388 Yeah is the newfangled iDrive. It is a actually a cloud subscription, they give you 2TB for 24 months after a fee of $600 then you have to pay $49 a month to keep using the service else you can only access your files but not upload anymore.
@@damjanmusic6713 yes but its not by choice, as direct sideloading is not allowed. Apple sold hardware & with its software but after that it should be user's choice how to use it & what to install & from where to install.
Ofcourse it's about money, Apple differentiated their product by selling higher standard of security and privacy, it's like one of the 2 or 3 only reasons to get an iPhone. If they set developers free then that will result in less apps on the App Store, and what is the point of security if you aren't getting apps. Apple won't be able to say they have higher security than android if you're forced to sideload for some apps. The iPhone literally can't be the iPhone if there are unmonitored sources of apps. They make money from selling iPhones, and also from the App Store they invest resources into making sure it prevents more malware than competitors. Ofcourse it's about money, that is why businesses provide a product
@@winstonthompson6210y'all keep bragging about security and privacy as if Android never does that. been a long time Android user and never had problems with it. apple keep rehashing that security and privacy only to milk money out of y'all
Heavy fines works on smaller companies. Mega corps don't think too much about it unless they face a potential dismantling like MS a few decades ago. Stratospherical fines have a high mediatic impact but, it's a hassle for administrations to enforce while they face the Mega Corp armies of lawyers. A large part of the fine will be burnt before they can start to cash in the first cent. Though, if there is one thing bureaucrats are good at is patience and resilience. In the recent years, GAFAM have taken a path for the worst. They changed the meaning of sales and ownership. Some countries do have inscribed usus fructus in the laws, which make apple's policies to restrict both "usus" (you use it how THEY want, not how YOU want to) and "fructus" (you can't do what ou want with it or have it repaired by who you want as the slightest part is firmware locked, even and especially non critical ones). Though Tesla wish to go even further than apple by forbidding reselling and implementing a way to shut down your car. Basically, they rent out their goods without the downside of maintaining costs, overcharge for maintenance you don't have alternative for and enjoying all the financial benefits of sales. The first thing should be to redefine what a sale is and that by selling things, you transfer COMPLETE ownership, rights of use and repairs. It was only 2 decades ago at most when you really own tech goods you bought and had to buy complementary insurances or subscribe to a maintenance plan. Over the years, the quality (for most companies) haven't dropped. But the user's experience sometimes tend to be a descent to hell.
We have various suppliers even if the usa is the top one but is because we are allies, even we Europeans are starting to be fed up of been usa pawns, btw we are talking about companies although companies in the USA control basically the entire government, the same way the USA destroyed huawei international market to help apple and others
You always had that choice open to you, given the variety of phones on the market. Just choose in accordance with your preferences and the market will take care of itself.
@@o0Donuts0olol, indeed. I guess by some peoples' logic, we're all going to have to learn how to design and build our own phones, tailor-made to our individual preferences, because companies lack the resources and psychic powers necessary to do this for us.
@@Manic154if you can't see how Apple is being anti-competitive with this, I don't know what to tell you. No such thing as a market with no competition.
@@alexandervillar7742 As someone else pointed out rather well, Sony have their own store for Playstation, Microsoft have their own store for XBOX, Nintendo have their own store for Switch and so on. You can choose whatever service you want - or not - at your convenience. If you're going to single out one company and tell them they can't have a store like everyone else, that's anti-competitive.
@@graychev free countries are entitled to protect their citizens from garbage companies that try to screw them. EU has methods to change Tim Cocks mind.
@@graychev Free countries would never do this? What does that even mean? And either they comply or they can say bye. It's their choice and the customers/users gain.
I hope that the EU says hell no to their proposal. iOS users should be allowed to download apps and app stores from anywhere and developers should not have to pay 50 cents per install and 17% of every transaction for apps that Apple isn't even paying for. MacOS allows downloading random apps. So does Windows of course and also Android.
Yeah, I would expect that the EU would require allowing sideloading, rather than just letting people get other app stores from the App Store, with Apple still able to impose such conditions on the other app stores.
Because those devices aren't nearly as portable, connected, almost always on and full of personal data and tracking features as a phone. Of course this isn't as much of an issue on Android, given the nature of Google, who love nothing more than sucking up all your private data at your expense. I don't think anyone - especially the EU - is thinking deeply enough about the serious implications these new rules create. All it has done is substitute one potential means of perceived anti-competition with another. The EU has no business interfering in this manner. You can argue all you want about a closed system, which is a separate question. Regardless, this regulation is most definitely not the answer. Besides, if people cared enough about this, they'd stop buying iPhones and use alternatives, demonstrating a true competitive marketplace, judged by the consumer, not the bureaucrats.
@@Manic154 Apparently people buy iPhones and iPads because they are pressured to. As some people use things like iMessage and FaceTime that require Apple's OSes, and therefore their devices. When people can't use iMessage because they're on Android, iPhone users think less of them for their green bubble. And schools get students to use iPads. If you ask me, they're right to be critical of SMS, because it's insecure. But shaming people into buying expensive, locked-down phones isn't the answer. They should rather stop standing for locked-down, closed things, and use open-source, cross-platform, flexible, secure things. Seriously, what do they see in iMessage or iOS? Could it be the hardware? Because I don't think that's too great either, what with the lack of SD card support and headphone jacks, and proprietary, inferior charging port. Apparently people say iOS is secure because it's locked-down, and that jailbreaking is a security risk. But Apple spies on its users, and you can't do anything about it, or hide the last characters of passwords being typed; unless you jailbreak. So NOT jailbreaking is actually a security risk too. Note that jailbreakers don't necessarily ameliorate the security risks either. In fact, I think most of them continue to let Apple spy on them, especially since their reason for jailbreaking tends to be typing Chinese or sideloading, not security. It's true that jailbroken devices can and have been compromised by hackers who weren't Apple, but it's only really a problem if the jailbreaker doesn't know what they're doing. But non-jailbreakers will face the security risks of not jailbreaking regardless of what they do.
@@samanjjit will come. They just take the biggest fights first, to figure out all the loopholes they will try and use. Once they have a standard law that can be implemented in all sectors, its easy to simply roll it out. So the more apple fight, the worse it will be for them all. It's typical that an american company and especially apple to try and force their way like they do in the US. It weird they havnt learned their lesson yet. Maybe or probably they do know and simply calculated that the profit fighting this and keep earning what they do now, is better than surrending at once. Considering their previous battles, I think it's fair to say that they know they will lose eventually. Which again makes sense why they are making it into a joke.
Yes, it is like this woke gender fempower bullshit word bingo that apple have now acquired for themselves to reinvent the terminology of computers (which they deny to exist) in hopes to portray themselves as groundbreakers on a few frontier that in fact they make no contribution on whatsoever.
@@Strideo1People don't understand this. I'm frightened by it, because more and more rights are pulled out from under us in broad daylight, and people either don't understand it, or they don't care. I don't know which is worse. Well, actually the latter is worse, but they're both horrible, and morally bankrupt companies like Apple, Meta, Google and Microsoft will continue to exploit this until people wake up or someone stops them.
@@Strideo1some people prefer one curated App Store, with the possibility to install a scam app, close to 0%. One of my parents has an iPhone, the other a Samsung. Guess with which one I have to talk weekly to explain that the Music player app, or whatever they’ve download and is displaying 4th ad consecutively is probably not going to play their music. And after that spend 15 minutes while looking for a music player app which is not completely scam. I understand people have different preferences, but there are more than one type of user, aren’t there? Just keep the trash on android, please. We don’t need that shit on iOS.
2:13 Apple looked at Unity's controversy and thought "why don't we make it even most expensive per install?" at 50 cents instead of at most 20 cents and at least 1 cent. Euro cents too, which is $0.54. That's absolutely insane!! Most free app users pay NOTHING and I think that the average payment per install is like 10 cents or less because barely anyone buys microtransactions I assume (and hope).
The funny thing is: If you visit the European Parliament in Brussels, the self-service audioguides are iPod Touch devices running an app in managed mode... 😁
For real, I’m an iPhone users for years already, but I’m so annoyed by apple trying to escape EU regulation, that I’m seriously considering not buying an iPhone anymore next time I have to change my phone. I also really hope that the EU finds a way for apple to not go through with this bul****t
You do understand that the seamlessness of having all apps on one store is part of the experience? Making money is a nice bonus. Apple uses its monopolistic position not to bully consumers but rather companies. Whether it be Goldman Sachs loosing over 3 Billion dollars with apple (money that was given to apple cardholders) or apps being forced to shell out 30% of transactions... @@MerlinDerMagier
I wondered for two of my first TH-cam recommendations of Sam time until I realised the TH-cam algorithm was working perfectly as I watch both LTT & Comedy.
@@ChristopherLRussell I'm not so well up in my dollars, but the different uses of „Pound“ in different versions of the English language are the reason for why my favourite telephone hack is to set PABX localisations to *English (US)* on any system that's primarily aimed at those of us in Britain. 😉 Trust me: The look of bemusement on an unsuspecting persons face when they're asked to „Press Pound“ and they're just staring at the keypad not knowing what the heck to do... *#* 💷🤣
1:42 Seeing a part of the old anti-piracy spot, that was on VHS releases back in the day, made me feel quite nostalgic. And also older than it should’ve made me feel😅🤣🤣🤣
Those same clips made me feel even older than that! 😳 When I was a kid, all of the anti-piracy messages we had basically said _„If you engage in piracy, the Royal Navy will show no mercy...“_ 🏴☠⛵🇬🇧👴
There's actually something called "euro dollars" and I think that is US dollars created in Europe. Otherwise US dollar got the nickname "petrodollar" because the oil is traded in US dollar worldwide.
they are making it as painful as it to repair their phones even when you are in the partner repair(which is still also a nightmare by the way, you basically sell your soul to them when join them).
They could do it even better than that: Charge Apple 50 *pence* for each app install, and set the conversion rate for remuneration in Euro (Obligatory in the EU) to the exchange rate from Sterling that applied on the 23rd June 2016... 💷📉💸😉
Or has unity tried to be Apple? Because Apple does this extortion of customer's money all the time. That combined with their popularity through social status: no wonder they are one of the most valuable companies of all time.
@@bstory3196 why do apple users should laugh? Iphone is just totalitarian regime without torrent and normal parameters like 5000mah, 120w,120-144hz, strongest processor, best camera, root.
No business should be forced to do what people want unless business are forcefully taking people's money and giving them the product and no business is doing this so no government should force any business to do any thing, if people like it then they will buy it, if not then they won't this is a crime against a company buy literally a law and order complying government 😅
That’s an incredibly low bar to allow companies to do everything short of forcing purchases. Markets that facilitate trillions in commerce each year need regulation. That’s true of physical markets and now digital ones. I guess if your internet provider operated without competition and decided to charge say 30% of your income, you wouldn’t be happy either.
@alanharper23 but if the Internet provider wants to take 30% of my money to provide H I S Service, then it is his own business choice and he should be allowed to do so because he is not forcing me to take his choice, I can deny his service this not give him any money, I have the freedom to say N O and he should have the freedom to A S K I shouldn't force him to do a business choice that I like “in his business” If I don't like his business then I have been given the freedom to choose other business options or do that same business with my choices instead of ME deciding HIS choices in HIS own businesses, which is clearly taking away his right to choice in his own business 😊
@@Manikanta.Rapolu Of course you can choose not to pay them, but then you would be forfeiting your internet service. Maybe your utilities provider would do the same thing. Would you want to go without internet service provision or utilities? You can see how unfettered markets can become a problem when there is little competition.
Apple as a whole is nothing but a meme to me by now. I couldn't even consider buying something from them, I see them the same as if a toy company, that has only ever made toys for toddlers would suddenly sell a grown ass car, I can't take it for serious. Apple has gotten engraved into my mind as the blueprint for a scummy, greedy and reckless mega corporation you should avoid at all costs. And not gonna lie, it makes me sad seeing them rule the tech world. I would truely enjoy to see them going down. Even though it's meaningless, because for every villain dying, a new villain takes their place.
You think other companies are any better they just don’t have a “walled garden” , apple is the only one gaining market share , Samsung lost their identity and shoot them selves in the foot by trying to be like apple, so the consumers instead of buying a “knockoff” iPhone they preferred getting the real deal instead. Apple like or not as the premium tag on people’s minds its a status simbol, they have long software update and resale a lot better than a second hand Samsung ect, still in the eu most don’t use FaceTime or iMessage in Europe only the Nordics and bit in the uk use them
@@weird-guy Dude, are you watching me, or how else do you know I have a Samsung phone? I should check for hidden cameras.... But don't let that make you think, that I am a Samsung fanboy. They also do messed up things I despise them for, and if I may get another phone from them, it's because my phone is the best companion I could think of for almost 7 years now and has never let me down. But certainly not because I would think the company wears a white jacket. Afterall, no tech corporation cares about people, they only care about money. But on the path for the money, Samsung at least takes some responsibility, while Apple never does, until forced by law. How ridiculous is it, that they blame the user for bad reception by holding it wrong, when it is a construction error? Or Macbooks snapping their internal monitor cable because it's too short and not offering any extended warranty for this error of their making? iPhones could blow up left and right, and Apple would still come up with ridiculous explanations, how this could happen but it would absolutely not be their fault. Remember the Note 7? Samsung swallowed the hard pill, took all those phones back, took a hit to it's reputation and lost billions in the process. But in the long run, is was the better decision. Apple would not have, if anything, they would have offered to change a battery at 3/4 of the cost of the whole device, of course with the customer having to pay for it. They might have come up with something like, you are not supposed to hold the phone for so long, your hands heated it up. That is why Apple is a meme. I am not denying that they also do many great things, I give them credit for kicking off the modern smartphone. But they could be an innovative tech giant without being so incredibly anti-consumer. If they were, people like me might become customers of them as well and their brand would gow even further. I don't get it, why big corporations always go the villain route. And that is why I am sad, that Apple keeps rocking the field. Because they have mastered the craft of emptying people's pockets while delivering ass kicks and people liking it. I don't get it. And about my Samsung story....... My old phone will not last forever, and while never Samsung models also seem to be very enticing, I have already another phone ready for replacing my old Samsung phone. From a little manufacturer who's known for delivering too few updates, but other than that, having a good reputation still. If they'd ever make it to the size of Samsung or Apple, that would certainly change. Seems to be a law by this stage........
@MacMe95 The EU is made up of 27 capitalist democratic countries.. you might need to consult a map, You are probably thinking of Russia ( who are plastic communists)
As EU citizen, I agree to some extent. - A software product/service must not hinder or prevent the usage of any products/services ( including itself ). - A software product/service cannot be modified to prevent or hinder the usage of any products/services ( including itself ). - A software product/service must be provided equally and indiscriminately.
I have to use a Mac laptop at work every day, not by choice. This is a genuine question: if you like Apple products and MacOS in particular, why? Finder sucks, so you have to look for alternatives. Window management sucks, so you have to find alternatives. App switching sucks, so you have to find alternatives. The Dock sucks and clutters itself, so you have to find alternatives. Everything takes twice as many clicks because you can't interact with a window without first clicking on it to activate it. Apple itself is the definition of vendor lock and enshittification as well. So genuinely, what am I missing? Why do people like all this shit? It's not even stable, my work laptop crashes about 20x more frequently than my home desktop running Windows 11 running the same software. Edit: I did want to point out that one thing I really do like on Mac is Automator. That's a cool ass piece of software. I just genuinely want to know what people like about Mac because I feel like I must be missing something.
Only for the show-off factor if you're talking about a general demographic, whether it's any apple product. I've had a MacBook back at college and for some reason, it used to be the centre of attention even if a pro gaming laptop is in the room lol. Apple brand got a certain allure, got to give it that. About features, not much at all but their longevity is worth noting. I remember using my 2011 iPad with 512 MB RAM and playing GTA San Andreas in 2019, zero Issues and smooth. On Androids, that time apart, at that low of a spec, it'd be a miracle
I think it depends, both systems have their advantages. I was also introduced to Apple devices by a client. After being a PC nerd and Android user, I switched every device to Apple over the last 2 years. Hard to put the finger on it. I think money is just no factor anymore, but time is. And since I have to deal with or fix a lot of software related stuff etc. as part of my work, devices that just work extremely well together, have clever functions, and are absolutely stable - in my case - have a big appeal. I think especially working in IT I was personally done with doing this, or customizing and micromanaging all kinds of things in my personal and working setup as well 😅 I still have side PCs and Android devices in operation, though. Also I have the impression, Apple, Windows/Android and Linux all have software, Functions, Features and that are really great, or that suck hard. And it is always a trade off, no better system. It just depends on your preferences and working style in the End. I have not regretted my switch. But wold also not say it is perfect, or a good investment for everyone. Just my 2 cents.
Totally have the same opinion here. It claims to be innovative and has some great features like ecosystem wide clipboard, but fails at the most basic things you mentioned. It's hilariously bad. Customers of Apple products often don't know that it's not normal to have workarounds for everything in place. 😂
I am completely against of what UE wants to do, I'm all for what they did with USB-c, but the sideloading... I can see what they were trying to accomplish but: Now users have a choice to buy an iPhone - a secure phone with restricted apps that you can download or android a less secure phone which you can do whatever you want with. eu by making Apple sideload apps from other platforms limits the choices for users concerned about their security - so it isn't accomplishing the main goal of giving more choices to people in the first place!
Users who want to prioritise security on their iPhone can still opt to download apps only from the App Store if they wish. The DMA doesn't change this.
@@alanharper23 yea. But won’t it make the whole system less secure if it will be possible to download apps from other places? More open system means more back doors for hackers and malicious software. And it won’t affect only those who opt for this functionality but all users
@@jakubwadrzyk7794 Apple’s app sandboxing model is still intact even with these changes. Even apps distributed through third party stores will be reviewed by Apple’s notarisation process. Apple will still be responsible for issuing iOS security updates as they always do. They have the same model on the Mac, and they continually tout its security.
@@jakubwadrzyk7794 Side loading is just an option, i dont know where did you get the idea "Iphone is more secure", you are fooled by marketing , with the existance of Ui like graphene OS , android can be 40x times more secure, people need to understand Open source is far more safe than a private closed environment by far, more open systems dont mean more back doors, more open system means more options, side loading will only be used if you are PURPOSELLY wanting to use it, just dont download from sketchy sites, or just, dont download anything outside of the appstore like you have been doing, jailbreak exists already but apple has been working to make it very hard and "illegal". such a shitty practice
Honestly, I'm tired of governments telling people how to run their businesses. None of these plans from our glorious leaders work as intended, and only end up screwing things up for the end users.
My bank had no issues with customers using iOS app to access their accounts and conduct business; however, clients with android based phones had to be constantly policed as scammers were always trying to get clients to download their version of apps that used “man in the middle” types of attacks is. While I understand the EU turning the iOS platform into public utility, the EU should pay Apple to run it as a public utility.
If the EU thinks this is compliance, they should disband the commission. I'm shocked the US isn't poking on this. I use apple products and like them, but this kind of behavior makes me think twice. If only app developers could collude and stop updating iOS version for a while. It may send a message--yes I know it's never gonna happen.
@@davedarius7346 you have iphone launchers on android so you wouldnt know the difference as the UI would be the same and apps are already the same on both
If the EU counts that as non-compliance, they can charge Apple a fine of 20% of its worldwide revenue. That would be more than $75 billion. Sounds excessive, but remember that the US charged Volkswagen a fine of $30 billion. Huge companies need huge fines. Otherwise they will just laugh and continue.
The difference is I don't know if there was any harm in what Volkswagen did. And now we have less fuel efficient vehicles as a result.
Correction, they should charge $1’500 billions fine instead, because Apple worth 50X more than Volkswagen.
@@MP-vc4nu Volkswagen is just worth that little, because it has $200 billion in debt. Only Evergrande has more debt.
exactly. they only see numbers. they need a Big red NO in their charts to do something
The problem is Apple might just leave the EU and not pay the fine. Can't find them if they don't operate in that territory.
The alternate app store rule basically says -
You can only make a 1-1 copy of our App Store and you have to pay us if you want to do so.
Exactly what I was thinking
@@ytushar_ enjoy kids
And even if you're using an alternative payment processor, Apple will take 17% for doing absolutely nothing other than displaying that scary warning on the screen. LOL Wowwza, they really fell off their rockers yo!
Which is completely understandable. They still provide and maintain the platform and its APIs
@@anianii Google does too with Android. But you don’t see them doing these shenanigans, do you?
Charging that 17% on transactions outside Apple’s App Store is WILD 💀
I wonder how they'll enforce it, though? Going to be quite hard for *Apple* to see that I've made a payment through Facebook Pay if I execute the payment from my *Linux* desktop PC... 😉
@@dieseldragon6756 apple wants every app developer to "notarize" their apps before making them available on any app store. Which basically means they will read the whole code and if there are any indications or instructions related to making payments outside of the app, then they will ban that app, like they did with Epic.
So they can easily enforce it. Only when other app stores and apps work independently of Apple, can they do what they want to do, else everyone has to follow apples rules and any deviation will result in their apps being kicked out of iOS.
It's very dangerous precedent being set by a platform company. Apple is testing the limits of walled gardens and people will realise just how much contril these companies will have over them and will move to competitors who incentivise by being more open.
Unfortunately it takes time for a normal, non tech-saavy customer to realise how evil they are and how much harm they are causing ( or simply how much extra money they are being extracted, which they need not have to pay if it's non apple device)
Imagine Netflix or someother app with exactly same content, or games or digital services, but customers on apple are paying more than Android users😂😂😂😂. That should wake them apple fans
They got the idea from the US Federal government - who charges US citizens tax on income that had absolutely nothing to do with the USA to people who don't live there
its not outside apples app store, its outside apples payment processing
Their platform their price and laws. They have every right to do it
Rules :
-Do not sideload
-No open source
-No fortnite
-No APK
-No IPA
-Live on EU
I so wish that IPA referred to something other than one of the dodgiest bits of legislation my country has ever tried to enact...🍎🍻🙃
(Personally? I like to think of it as *_InterCity_*_ Pale Ale_ 🚄🍻😉💨)
@@dieseldragon6756 international phonetic alphabet?
I live in the EU and even I am tired of the EU dictatorship on things that have nothing to do with the original goal of EU
I don't think this is what the EU had in mind when they passed that law 🤣
yeah they should reject this dogshit from apple trying to pull
@@rajeshbedi They sort of are. The EU said that they would fight companies that are not following the spirit of the DMA. They didn't specifically say Apple, but it's obvious who they're talking about
They should just ban Apple from the EU because of this shit for one day and see how Apple users react (probably buying an Android immediately). I mean the EU could easily disable all Apple services via DNS (including stores and other features). I would like that. Much more effective than requesting them to pay a fine.
Apple could easily implement a simple sideloading mechanism with some warnings before enabling it and sand-boxing the apps to avoid any privacy and security issues (which is BS anyway). But no, they wanna be jerks and collect money even when downloading from elsewhere. The icing on the case is that they wanna charge 17% for using alternative payment processors by doing absolutely nothing, just sit back and watch the money roll in. Wow, their stupid arrogance and greed is mind boggling.
@@BillAnt exactly.. I would rather die than buying apple shit
I love how they said "if you build an app store that doesn't have anything to do with or have any relation to us, we'll be forcing that relation, because we can".
Did you enjoy that random "what's a computer" line?
I don't get that one. Apple themselves sell computers. Or are Macs now somehow not computers? Literally every device apple makes is technicalities a computer anyway
The fact that they want their store on apples platform shows it did have something to do with apple.
@@Danarchy3 that doesn't even make sense. Does f-droid have anything to do with google?
Do i have something to do with google because i made an android app? Do you have anything to do with your stock exchange because you bought stocks?
If you mod a ford, or you make custom parts and mods for a ford, do you have something to do with Ford?
If you make a project build and got a ford chassis, its ford platform. But if you make a project build on fords platform do you have something to do with ford?
No you dont. Maybe not the best analogy there but again, it doesn't make sense.
This is apple doing apple things with force to their convenience. Whether we like it or not doesnt matter.
@darktitan8085 your missing one key point. If you build a product that isn't Ford and put it on a Ford chassis you are correct, you have nothing to do with Ford. That's not what's happening here. Your now trying to sell your not Ford/Ford and your trying to do it in the Ford show room. Now you have something to do with Ford
@@Danarchy3 disagree. You're not selling not a ford in a ford showroom. Apple has to maintain the app store same like how google maintains the play store. Theyre right to charge a commission to the app's sales and in app purchases. Third party stores are not maintained by apple, so what gives them the right to charge and monitor others?
Its like saying if a certain person offers modded parts for a ford should charge a commission to that person's business. Doesn't make sense. Ford didnt make those parts.
If i put a different ecu on my motorcycle, it doesnt make the manufacturer eligible to take a percentage of the profit or put regulations on what ecu should be offered just because its their engine and their chasis.
The point is, what percentage of the customer base will go to that alternative? Hardly many. So its a losing game either way.
Apple wants to control everything about their product. Its been their intention since the very beginning. They'll go on doing that in the name of "user protection and privacy". Whether you want that or not is irrelevant but dont try to forge their intentions by playing some morality game about who should decide what.
App devs wont decide to put their apps outside the app store, they may offer something for a lesser price on their website or something at best, so again, its just what apple wants, not what anyone else wants or cares about.
App store will still be a better experience anyway, so why do you care about defending their decision?
Just take windows for example. Ms takes commissions from the store they maintain. But if you download the app from browser, does it make ms eligible to regulate your app just because its on windows? Makes no sense. Ms can give guidelines on what to do, such as to make the experience better, they cant force and regulate others. Same with mac os. So if youre ok doing that there why come and fight for their decisions on the iphone?
I truly hope the EU will just say "no" to this joke of a paper, and make them comply correctly...
Of course it will say no. Especially now, that Apple tried to mock EU. They tried to require MFI chips on usb-C cables for iPhones, but EU just said "No, Apple. Go F*** yourself."
Just buy a f****** Android phone.
@@MisterRose90 Well, first, it's in my plans, but for another reason... then, even if I had an Android, I just want this big tech company to shut the hell up and comply to rules, and stop with their bullsh*t. No need to be aggressive...
I don't use Facebook ad I was still very happy when the EU had them comply to the data protection rules ! And in this case, Apple is playing a despicable game... and whether the EU agrees with this joke or not will show if they really can show strength...
The funny thing is, my next phone might actually be an iPhone, if it allowed sideloading. I guess Apple just doesnt want my business
@alzalia_ no. I dont like apple either, but they are an american company, and they can do what they want within reason. If you don't like that, don't give them your hard earned money. If everyone else thought the same way, then apple would have no choice but to do what the market wants or go out of business. Or they can pull out of your market. Either way. Exercise your right as a consumer to tell them to fuck off.
Tim saying "That's just incredible" is a frequently used clip, adds to the parody-ness of these videos.
It's just incredible🤓
Love it :p
You are right. That and DJ Koh’s daf***
Tbh, this is actually what he had inside his head when he said that line…
It's un-friggin-believable! Ha-HA
From the company that charges $600 for a 2TD SSD. Always good value!
I think you forgot that $600,- only gives you a 2TB SSD for the first 24 months. Once you hit that point it costs an additional $49,-/month to keep it at 2TB, else it „magically“ turns into a 2MB one... 😉
@@dieseldragon6756 Huh ? Is that real ?
@@Raptor3388 It's a joke today, but will probably be genuine Apple sales policy tomorrow... 🍎💸😉
@@Raptor3388 yeah mate
@@Raptor3388 Yeah is the newfangled iDrive. It is a actually a cloud subscription, they give you 2TB for 24 months after a fee of $600 then you have to pay $49 a month to keep using the service else you can only access your files but not upload anymore.
Bro that Starbucks analogy was hillarious! 17% Sip 🤣🤣
Its 27% is US 😂 (for payments made using external link & they will have audit rights)
Not at all. Analogy would be only if Starbucks would sell coffee at Apple’s Coffeeshop
@@damjanmusic6713 yes but its not by choice, as direct sideloading is not allowed. Apple sold hardware & with its software but after that it should be user's choice how to use it & what to install & from where to install.
😋😋
A big FU to their customers and more proof that they just care about the cash
How is it an FU to consumers?
@@winstonthompson6210
True, I mean Apple consumers are mostly just Apple loyalist 🤢
Ofcourse it's about money, Apple differentiated their product by selling higher standard of security and privacy, it's like one of the 2 or 3 only reasons to get an iPhone. If they set developers free then that will result in less apps on the App Store, and what is the point of security if you aren't getting apps. Apple won't be able to say they have higher security than android if you're forced to sideload for some apps. The iPhone literally can't be the iPhone if there are unmonitored sources of apps. They make money from selling iPhones, and also from the App Store they invest resources into making sure it prevents more malware than competitors. Ofcourse it's about money, that is why businesses provide a product
@@winstonthompson6210Utterly clueless Apple fanboy.
@@winstonthompson6210y'all keep bragging about security and privacy as if Android never does that. been a long time Android user and never had problems with it. apple keep rehashing that security and privacy only to milk money out of y'all
Meanwhile the European parlement calculating how much of a record breaking fine they will give to apple
Heavy fines works on smaller companies. Mega corps don't think too much about it unless they face a potential dismantling like MS a few decades ago. Stratospherical fines have a high mediatic impact but, it's a hassle for administrations to enforce while they face the Mega Corp armies of lawyers. A large part of the fine will be burnt before they can start to cash in the first cent.
Though, if there is one thing bureaucrats are good at is patience and resilience.
In the recent years, GAFAM have taken a path for the worst. They changed the meaning of sales and ownership. Some countries do have inscribed usus fructus in the laws, which make apple's policies to restrict both "usus" (you use it how THEY want, not how YOU want to) and "fructus" (you can't do what ou want with it or have it repaired by who you want as the slightest part is firmware locked, even and especially non critical ones). Though Tesla wish to go even further than apple by forbidding reselling and implementing a way to shut down your car. Basically, they rent out their goods without the downside of maintaining costs, overcharge for maintenance you don't have alternative for and enjoying all the financial benefits of sales.
The first thing should be to redefine what a sale is and that by selling things, you transfer COMPLETE ownership, rights of use and repairs.
It was only 2 decades ago at most when you really own tech goods you bought and had to buy complementary insurances or subscribe to a maintenance plan.
Over the years, the quality (for most companies) haven't dropped. But the user's experience sometimes tend to be a descent to hell.
In your dreams maybe
@@RickSanchez_85 They did this already multiple times.
@albinvega7008 i don't think countries and companies are brainless
We have various suppliers even if the usa is the top one but is because we are allies, even we Europeans are starting to be fed up of been usa pawns, btw we are talking about companies although companies in the USA control basically the entire government, the same way the USA destroyed huawei international market to help apple and others
OH NO, consumers using their OWN devices the way they want! We can't have that now, can we?
You always had that choice open to you, given the variety of phones on the market. Just choose in accordance with your preferences and the market will take care of itself.
Err, on whose behalf are you making this statement? I don’t recall nominating you as my spokesman on what I want as a consumer.
@@o0Donuts0olol, indeed. I guess by some peoples' logic, we're all going to have to learn how to design and build our own phones, tailor-made to our individual preferences, because companies lack the resources and psychic powers necessary to do this for us.
@@Manic154if you can't see how Apple is being anti-competitive with this, I don't know what to tell you. No such thing as a market with no competition.
@@alexandervillar7742 As someone else pointed out rather well, Sony have their own store for Playstation, Microsoft have their own store for XBOX, Nintendo have their own store for Switch and so on.
You can choose whatever service you want - or not - at your convenience. If you're going to single out one company and tell them they can't have a store like everyone else, that's anti-competitive.
It always cracks me up when you throw in the Tim Cook going "That's just incredible!"
What a cancerous behaviour, apple is getting only worse with time
I don't blame them. They are forced to do something they don't want. Free countries would never do this.
@@graychev free countries are entitled to protect their citizens from garbage companies that try to screw them. EU has methods to change Tim Cocks mind.
@@graychev Free countries would never do this? What does that even mean? And either they comply or they can say bye. It's their choice and the customers/users gain.
Bahaha, cry me a river thar apple is not able to uphold a monopoly. You are just a slave to corporations in your "free" country!
Hope that they will ban apple stuff in EU and keep it for "free countries" 😂
I hope that the EU says hell no to their proposal. iOS users should be allowed to download apps and app stores from anywhere and developers should not have to pay 50 cents per install and 17% of every transaction for apps that Apple isn't even paying for. MacOS allows downloading random apps. So does Windows of course and also Android.
Yeah, I would expect that the EU would require allowing sideloading, rather than just letting people get other app stores from the App Store, with Apple still able to impose such conditions on the other app stores.
Because those devices aren't nearly as portable, connected, almost always on and full of personal data and tracking features as a phone. Of course this isn't as much of an issue on Android, given the nature of Google, who love nothing more than sucking up all your private data at your expense. I don't think anyone - especially the EU - is thinking deeply enough about the serious implications these new rules create. All it has done is substitute one potential means of perceived anti-competition with another.
The EU has no business interfering in this manner. You can argue all you want about a closed system, which is a separate question. Regardless, this regulation is most definitely not the answer. Besides, if people cared enough about this, they'd stop buying iPhones and use alternatives, demonstrating a true competitive marketplace, judged by the consumer, not the bureaucrats.
@@Manic154 Apparently people buy iPhones and iPads because they are pressured to. As some people use things like iMessage and FaceTime that require Apple's OSes, and therefore their devices. When people can't use iMessage because they're on Android, iPhone users think less of them for their green bubble. And schools get students to use iPads.
If you ask me, they're right to be critical of SMS, because it's insecure. But shaming people into buying expensive, locked-down phones isn't the answer. They should rather stop standing for locked-down, closed things, and use open-source, cross-platform, flexible, secure things. Seriously, what do they see in iMessage or iOS? Could it be the hardware? Because I don't think that's too great either, what with the lack of SD card support and headphone jacks, and proprietary, inferior charging port.
Apparently people say iOS is secure because it's locked-down, and that jailbreaking is a security risk. But Apple spies on its users, and you can't do anything about it, or hide the last characters of passwords being typed; unless you jailbreak. So NOT jailbreaking is actually a security risk too. Note that jailbreakers don't necessarily ameliorate the security risks either. In fact, I think most of them continue to let Apple spy on them, especially since their reason for jailbreaking tends to be typing Chinese or sideloading, not security. It's true that jailbroken devices can and have been compromised by hackers who weren't Apple, but it's only really a problem if the jailbreaker doesn't know what they're doing. But non-jailbreakers will face the security risks of not jailbreaking regardless of what they do.
When will the EU pass the same law on XBOX, PlayStation, and Nintendo? How about smart TVs and Fridges?
@@samanjjit will come. They just take the biggest fights first, to figure out all the loopholes they will try and use. Once they have a standard law that can be implemented in all sectors, its easy to simply roll it out.
So the more apple fight, the worse it will be for them all.
It's typical that an american company and especially apple to try and force their way like they do in the US. It weird they havnt learned their lesson yet.
Maybe or probably they do know and simply calculated that the profit fighting this and keep earning what they do now, is better than surrending at once. Considering their previous battles, I think it's fair to say that they know they will lose eventually. Which again makes sense why they are making it into a joke.
An app store, from an app store..... APP STORE CEPTION! 🤣🤣
It's not a store if you buy nothing...
@@danlupsa- Well it's a store by storing apps, just sitting on the shelves. lol
Will become the Internet explorer of Apple!
@@CherriJo really? 😂
Is it weird that downloading a program directly from a website and installing it yourself is called "side loading"?
Yes, it is like this woke gender fempower bullshit word bingo that apple have now acquired for themselves to reinvent the terminology of computers (which they deny to exist) in hopes to portray themselves as groundbreakers on a few frontier that in fact they make no contribution on whatsoever.
EU says allow sideloading.
Apple understands it as allowing alternative app stores which they control and monetize.
lmao
The idea that people keep buying computing devices that won't allow you to install whatever software you want on them is still just baffling to me.
@@Strideo1People don't understand this. I'm frightened by it, because more and more rights are pulled out from under us in broad daylight, and people either don't understand it, or they don't care. I don't know which is worse.
Well, actually the latter is worse, but they're both horrible, and morally bankrupt companies like Apple, Meta, Google and Microsoft will continue to exploit this until people wake up or someone stops them.
@@Strideo1some people prefer one curated App Store, with the possibility to install a scam app, close to 0%. One of my parents has an iPhone, the other a Samsung. Guess with which one I have to talk weekly to explain that the Music player app, or whatever they’ve download and is displaying 4th ad consecutively is probably not going to play their music. And after that spend 15 minutes while looking for a music player app which is not completely scam. I understand people have different preferences, but there are more than one type of user, aren’t there? Just keep the trash on android, please. We don’t need that shit on iOS.
That last sentence gave me an existential crisis. 😆
2:13 Apple looked at Unity's controversy and thought "why don't we make it even most expensive per install?" at 50 cents instead of at most 20 cents and at least 1 cent. Euro cents too, which is $0.54. That's absolutely insane!! Most free app users pay NOTHING and I think that the average payment per install is like 10 cents or less because barely anyone buys microtransactions I assume (and hope).
Microtransactions on mobile, including games have overtaken both pc and consoles combined. It's really sad but true.
There's no way the EU Commission is gonna approve these ridiculous rules! 😂
The funny thing is: If you visit the European Parliament in Brussels, the self-service audioguides are iPod Touch devices running an app in managed mode... 😁
Of all the things that pissed me off in this, cutting to “what’s a computer” really got me hahaha
seen a lot of vids abt this but i think this vid is a way better explanation of what's going on, thanks sam
Agreed
My source to important news. I wish all news was explained in such simple and understandable way
For real, I’m an iPhone users for years already, but I’m so annoyed by apple trying to escape EU regulation, that I’m seriously considering not buying an iPhone anymore next time I have to change my phone. I also really hope that the EU finds a way for apple to not go through with this bul****t
Same. The S24 Ultra looks fine. I have to admit that. Also, would have long gotten a foldable if there was not crease in the middle…
Same. I like the iPhone experience, but Apple as a company is the definition of fcked up.
You do understand that the seamlessness of having all apps on one store is part of the experience? Making money is a nice bonus. Apple uses its monopolistic position not to bully consumers but rather companies. Whether it be Goldman Sachs loosing over 3 Billion dollars with apple (money that was given to apple cardholders) or apps being forced to shell out 30% of transactions... @@MerlinDerMagier
People when people stands up to authoritarian laws and regulations: 😁😁
People when a company stands up to authoritarian laws and regulations: 😡😡😡😡
Love your content! You deserve millions of subs!
And each should be willing to pay $0.50 per view!
This channel is becominc the best way to get latest news on Apple. Love it! 😂
Even my nokia 2730 supported sideloading...
cant wait for the surprised pikachu face when apple gets charged for non-compliance and the EU releases even stricter laws in response.
I think EVERYONE is missing the point... EVERYONE should give APPLE the middle finger and STOP BUYING their restrictve garbage!
Nah, only you missing the point.
Chill sheeps wont get this ever
@@k.vn.k🐑
ah, another sheep for the herding@@k.vn.k
@@rajeshbediSaid one sheep to another… You’re wholly invested into Android and therefor, are a sheep yourself.
I love how apple does business. In fact I love it so much, I have never bought an Apple product in my life, and I never will.
How is distribution of the stores happening? Do you have to download other app stores from the App Store?
Apple giving Sam endless content.
And Sam isn’t standing a chance 👏
You are a EUking genius!!
An*
@@wayneberry3453No, there's no vowel when you read it with emotion.
@@Aishhere-YT lol original comment was edited. I can't even remember the original.
I wondered for two of my first TH-cam recommendations of Sam time until I realised the TH-cam algorithm was working perfectly as I watch both LTT & Comedy.
Nice one Sam love your funny parodies as always 😂
You wouldn't download an app store
best comment lol
I got the reference, lmao
"wait, we have to get their permission now?"
i can only imagine the personification of EU just standing outside with an old kar98 after reading it all
Eu: are going to comply with our new law
Apple: yesnt
2:40 Bruh…”five hundred thousand EURO DOLLARS”???😂
Isn't that about 750,000 Dollar Pounds at todays exchange rate? 💵💷😋
@@dieseldragon6756do you mean, “Pound Dollars“?😅
@@ChristopherLRussell I'm not so well up in my dollars, but the different uses of „Pound“ in different versions of the English language are the reason for why my favourite telephone hack is to set PABX localisations to *English (US)* on any system that's primarily aimed at those of us in Britain. 😉
Trust me: The look of bemusement on an unsuspecting persons face when they're asked to „Press Pound“ and they're just staring at the keypad not knowing what the heck to do... *#* 💷🤣
1:42 Seeing a part of the old anti-piracy spot, that was on VHS releases back in the day, made me feel quite nostalgic. And also older than it should’ve made me feel😅🤣🤣🤣
Those same clips made me feel even older than that! 😳
When I was a kid, all of the anti-piracy messages we had basically said _„If you engage in piracy, the Royal Navy will show no mercy...“_ 🏴☠⛵🇬🇧👴
I'd love to download Spotify from Epic Games Store
"Like we care"... Sam was joking, but Apple isn't! 🤣
Dj Koh's appearance breaks me everytime 😂
The paper letter skit is fire and on point
"euro dollars" 😂
cyberpunk is now :)
There's actually something called "euro dollars" and I think that is US dollars created in Europe. Otherwise US dollar got the nickname "petrodollar" because the oil is traded in US dollar worldwide.
It's to communicate to our friends in the US of Hey that Euros is actually a currency 😜
@@TwoTubesADV except Euros isn't a thing :)
And oh the euro is even more worthy than the dollar. Woops 🤪
they are making it as painful as it to repair their phones even when you are in the partner repair(which is still also a nightmare by the way, you basically sell your soul to them when join them).
yes they want to make $$. You know as a company is legally forced to do.
You *can* sideload, but it’s heavily nerfed without a paid apple developer account
The EU should fine apple 50 cents for each app downloaded in their own store and take 17 per cent of in app purchases in perpetuity.
They could do it even better than that: Charge Apple 50 *pence* for each app install, and set the conversion rate for remuneration in Euro (Obligatory in the EU) to the exchange rate from Sterling that applied on the 23rd June 2016... 💷📉💸😉
Apple never passed the smell test.
2:15 Apple is now Unity
Or has unity tried to be Apple? Because Apple does this extortion of customer's money all the time. That combined with their popularity through social status: no wonder they are one of the most valuable companies of all time.
Except people will forgive Apple for doing the Runtime Fee, but not Unity
I don't believe the stuff apple is pulling with these guidelines will stick for long
It's not meant to, it's meant to delay and annoy.
Sam please integrate Tim as Dr Evil somehow 😂
Apple just setting itself up for EU Lawsuit (these hurt the most).
That last joke! I died🤣 seriously give me back my life!
All we need is a n alternative app store for alternative app stores. that way the main app store can follow the rules but the secondary ones do not
This is so funny as always😂 Kepp the good work Sam we love u
a far as I have seen
BEST SAMTINE VIDEO EVER !
BEST EXPLANATION OF THE NEW RULES ON TH-cam !!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
Sam keeps me informed about the shenanigans apple does.
sounds like the traditional punishment fee of 5 million $ per hour until this is fixed
hahahaha the intro is something else 🤣
This is my favorite tech news channel.
That’s just incredible
I've only bought a couple of things through the App Store, and it was a pain in the arrrrm.
The only thing I have to do with apple is laughing at their users.
No we laugh at you
@@bstory3196 why do apple users should laugh? Iphone is just totalitarian regime without torrent and normal parameters like 5000mah, 120w,120-144hz, strongest processor, best camera, root.
@@bstory3196Did you even see the video? You are paying a scam company, genius
lol
@@slikehope4333
Apple is a marketing company! Their marketing is so good, people really think they are buying state of the art tech
they are... Basically all top phones are the same. Apple charges an extra 150-200$
ah the euro dollars and euro cents
Wasn’t this allowed?? I download from alternate online app stores all the time, and all I have to do is change some settings.
Apple being scummy? No way....
Right? I couldn't believe a company with a proven record of endless scams is scamming again. Shocking.
I love the rules that Apple have put into place for the EU market 👏🏾👏🏾
Just go with Android. Sure it’s going to take some time to get accustomed, but it does work ok and you can get good phone at 1/3 the price.
Best Android i've ever used is Samsung A5* series.
nah this is a reason more for me to stay with apple
@@ocococococococococococococ3267 Bro, it is seem you have not tried samsung nor pixel xd.
@@ocococococococococococococ3267 more money for less features for a reason of having a habit? 👍
One could open an open source only App Store if you use on of the existing open source charities.
No thanks CrApple 😙
Finally someone who hasn't taken a lot of sponsorship money from Apple Inc.
Thank you.
I love how Apple’s response to the EU is an FU. That made me laugh.
You know what's funnier? The hefty fine they're getting after they implement this one 💀
@@medo_0x00 yep 💀
Left Apple behind about 5 years ago and never looked back. Getting stuff done on Android is just so easy
u know the play store charges 30% and google is a 10x worst company when it comes to consumer rights. ESPECIALLY related to privacy & data collection?
No business should be forced to do what people want unless business are forcefully taking people's money and giving them the product and no business is doing this so no government should force any business to do any thing, if people like it then they will buy it, if not then they won't
this is a crime against a company buy literally a law and order complying government 😅
I wish I could opt out on government services that would be great! Not interested in social security I’ll keep my tax dollars thanks!
That’s an incredibly low bar to allow companies to do everything short of forcing purchases. Markets that facilitate trillions in commerce each year need regulation. That’s true of physical markets and now digital ones.
I guess if your internet provider operated without competition and decided to charge say 30% of your income, you wouldn’t be happy either.
@alanharper23 but if the Internet provider wants to take 30% of my money to provide H I S Service, then it is his own business choice and he should be allowed to do so because he is not forcing me to take his choice, I can deny his service this not give him any money, I have the freedom to say N O and he should have the freedom to A S K
I shouldn't force him to do a business choice that I like “in his business”
If I don't like his business then I have been given the freedom to choose other business options or do that same business with my choices instead of ME deciding HIS choices in HIS own businesses, which is clearly taking away his right to choice in his own business 😊
@@Manikanta.Rapolu Of course you can choose not to pay them, but then you would be forfeiting your internet service. Maybe your utilities provider would do the same thing. Would you want to go without internet service provision or utilities? You can see how unfettered markets can become a problem when there is little competition.
I realy just want to say hello and keep Up the good job! I realy Like this Show!🔥🔥🔥
Apple as a whole is nothing but a meme to me by now. I couldn't even consider buying something from them, I see them the same as if a toy company, that has only ever made toys for toddlers would suddenly sell a grown ass car, I can't take it for serious. Apple has gotten engraved into my mind as the blueprint for a scummy, greedy and reckless mega corporation you should avoid at all costs. And not gonna lie, it makes me sad seeing them rule the tech world. I would truely enjoy to see them going down. Even though it's meaningless, because for every villain dying, a new villain takes their place.
Google? Samsung? Meta?
The alternatives aren't any better, they act like it, but copy Apple methods (ex: removing headphone jack and charger brick)
You think other companies are any better they just don’t have a “walled garden” , apple is the only one gaining market share , Samsung lost their identity and shoot them selves in the foot by trying to be like apple, so the consumers instead of buying a “knockoff” iPhone they preferred getting the real deal instead.
Apple like or not as the premium tag on people’s minds its a status simbol, they have long software update and resale a lot better than a second hand Samsung ect, still in the eu most don’t use FaceTime or iMessage in Europe only the Nordics and bit in the uk use them
Tell me you’re a commie without telling me @marcfuchs6938
@@weird-guy Dude, are you watching me, or how else do you know I have a Samsung phone? I should check for hidden cameras....
But don't let that make you think, that I am a Samsung fanboy. They also do messed up things I despise them for, and if I may get another phone from them, it's because my phone is the best companion I could think of for almost 7 years now and has never let me down. But certainly not because I would think the company wears a white jacket. Afterall, no tech corporation cares about people, they only care about money.
But on the path for the money, Samsung at least takes some responsibility, while Apple never does, until forced by law. How ridiculous is it, that they blame the user for bad reception by holding it wrong, when it is a construction error? Or Macbooks snapping their internal monitor cable because it's too short and not offering any extended warranty for this error of their making? iPhones could blow up left and right, and Apple would still come up with ridiculous explanations, how this could happen but it would absolutely not be their fault.
Remember the Note 7? Samsung swallowed the hard pill, took all those phones back, took a hit to it's reputation and lost billions in the process. But in the long run, is was the better decision. Apple would not have, if anything, they would have offered to change a battery at 3/4 of the cost of the whole device, of course with the customer having to pay for it. They might have come up with something like, you are not supposed to hold the phone for so long, your hands heated it up.
That is why Apple is a meme. I am not denying that they also do many great things, I give them credit for kicking off the modern smartphone. But they could be an innovative tech giant without being so incredibly anti-consumer. If they were, people like me might become customers of them as well and their brand would gow even further. I don't get it, why big corporations always go the villain route. And that is why I am sad, that Apple keeps rocking the field. Because they have mastered the craft of emptying people's pockets while delivering ass kicks and people liking it. I don't get it.
And about my Samsung story....... My old phone will not last forever, and while never Samsung models also seem to be very enticing, I have already another phone ready for replacing my old Samsung phone. From a little manufacturer who's known for delivering too few updates, but other than that, having a good reputation still. If they'd ever make it to the size of Samsung or Apple, that would certainly change. Seems to be a law by this stage........
Symbol of currency belongs AFTER the number!
Ohhhh the EU is NOT gonna let this one slide
Commies gonna commie what can you do
@MacMe95 The EU is made up of 27 capitalist democratic countries.. you might need to consult a map, You are probably thinking of Russia ( who are plastic communists)
As EU citizen, I agree to some extent.
- A software product/service must not hinder or prevent the usage of any products/services ( including itself ).
- A software product/service cannot be modified to prevent or hinder the usage of any products/services ( including itself ).
- A software product/service must be provided equally and indiscriminately.
How do you get the EU to listen to a company like Apple? Simple, just replace "e" with "f", so it's FU!
That's literally the first joke in the video
I have to use a Mac laptop at work every day, not by choice. This is a genuine question: if you like Apple products and MacOS in particular, why? Finder sucks, so you have to look for alternatives. Window management sucks, so you have to find alternatives. App switching sucks, so you have to find alternatives. The Dock sucks and clutters itself, so you have to find alternatives. Everything takes twice as many clicks because you can't interact with a window without first clicking on it to activate it. Apple itself is the definition of vendor lock and enshittification as well. So genuinely, what am I missing? Why do people like all this shit? It's not even stable, my work laptop crashes about 20x more frequently than my home desktop running Windows 11 running the same software.
Edit: I did want to point out that one thing I really do like on Mac is Automator. That's a cool ass piece of software. I just genuinely want to know what people like about Mac because I feel like I must be missing something.
Only for the show-off factor if you're talking about a general demographic, whether it's any apple product. I've had a MacBook back at college and for some reason, it used to be the centre of attention even if a pro gaming laptop is in the room lol. Apple brand got a certain allure, got to give it that. About features, not much at all but their longevity is worth noting. I remember using my 2011 iPad with 512 MB RAM and playing GTA San Andreas in 2019, zero Issues and smooth. On Androids, that time apart, at that low of a spec, it'd be a miracle
I think it depends, both systems have their advantages. I was also introduced to Apple devices by a client. After being a PC nerd and Android user, I switched every device to Apple over the last 2 years. Hard to put the finger on it. I think money is just no factor anymore, but time is. And since I have to deal with or fix a lot of software related stuff etc. as part of my work, devices that just work extremely well together, have clever functions, and are absolutely stable - in my case - have a big appeal. I think especially working in IT I was personally done with doing this, or customizing and micromanaging all kinds of things in my personal and working setup as well 😅 I still have side PCs and Android devices in operation, though. Also I have the impression, Apple, Windows/Android and Linux all have software, Functions, Features and that are really great, or that suck hard. And it is always a trade off, no better system. It just depends on your preferences and working style in the End. I have not regretted my switch. But wold also not say it is perfect, or a good investment for everyone. Just my 2 cents.
Totally have the same opinion here. It claims to be innovative and has some great features like ecosystem wide clipboard, but fails at the most basic things you mentioned. It's hilariously bad. Customers of Apple products often don't know that it's not normal to have workarounds for everything in place. 😂
Bu-bu-bullshit! 😂
What if they make the app for all the stores EXCEPT for the Apple Store? Can they add more features restricted by Apple that way?
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so alternate app stores are forced to be normal app stores with a different set of apps...
I am completely against of what UE wants to do, I'm all for what they did with USB-c, but the sideloading... I can see what they were trying to accomplish but:
Now users have a choice to buy
an iPhone - a secure phone with restricted apps that you can download
or android a less secure phone which you can do whatever you want with.
eu by making Apple sideload apps from other platforms limits the choices for users concerned about their security - so it isn't accomplishing the main goal of giving more choices to people in the first place!
Users who want to prioritise security on their iPhone can still opt to download apps only from the App Store if they wish. The DMA doesn't change this.
@@alanharper23 yea. But won’t it make the whole system less secure if it will be possible to download apps from other places? More open system means more back doors for hackers and malicious software. And it won’t affect only those who opt for this functionality but all users
@@jakubwadrzyk7794 Apple’s app sandboxing model is still intact even with these changes. Even apps distributed through third party stores will be reviewed by Apple’s notarisation process. Apple will still be responsible for issuing iOS security updates as they always do. They have the same model on the Mac, and they continually tout its security.
@@jakubwadrzyk7794 Side loading is just an option, i dont know where did you get the idea "Iphone is more secure", you are fooled by marketing , with the existance of Ui like graphene OS , android can be 40x times more secure, people need to understand Open source is far more safe than a private closed environment by far, more open systems dont mean more back doors, more open system means more options, side loading will only be used if you are PURPOSELLY wanting to use it, just dont download from sketchy sites, or just, dont download anything outside of the appstore like you have been doing, jailbreak exists already but apple has been working to make it very hard and "illegal". such a shitty practice
Honestly, I'm tired of governments telling people how to run their businesses. None of these plans from our glorious leaders work as intended, and only end up screwing things up for the end users.
yep
My bank had no issues with customers using iOS app to access their accounts and conduct business; however, clients with android based phones had to be constantly policed as scammers were always trying to get clients to download their version of apps that used “man in the middle” types of attacks is. While I understand the EU turning the iOS platform into public utility, the EU should pay Apple to run it as a public utility.
Did you not see what Apple is demanding ! To not see this as ridiculous means you work for Apple. or you are one of their brainwashed sheep
Ofcourse EU should pay. We need to make Apple from the richest company on Earth to the richest company in the Galaxy right?
If the EU thinks this is compliance, they should disband the commission. I'm shocked the US isn't poking on this. I use apple products and like them, but this kind of behavior makes me think twice. If only app developers could collude and stop updating iOS version for a while. It may send a message--yes I know it's never gonna happen.
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We all have been waiting for this moment! 🤗
@@MaiAolei Yea 🙏🤣😅
1:03 that sounded so legit and funny 😂
Easy fix, don't buy apple products :)
Apple is Apple tho. Some people just might not be into Androids
@@davedarius7346 you have iphone launchers on android so you wouldnt know the difference as the UI would be the same and apps are already the same on both
I want to laugh, but I'm too filled with hatred and depression. Oh well.
EUCK APPLE
I thought I'll be able to just install Ipa after downloading them from anywhere
"When it comes to options, we say 'no'."
I'm convinced you're a REAL Apple employee, now. 😂
I hope EU sees through the crap and make them change stuff