On one hand, it makes sense. You don't want to reiterate what's already known. Having someone stop and point out that "Remember back in that one pizzeria, where William Afton killed 5- I mean 6- I mean 7- I mean 10- I mean idk how many kids? Yeah just remember that for the future." But also, the total lack of connective tissue is probably why there is such a big rift between the old and the new, the new doesn't really acknowledge the old, not properly.
@@aliendilo3105 What's really frustrating is that cut content for Security Breach had more connective tissue, particularly Freddy talking about "bad things that happened in the past".
HOLD ON! In the endo training section of security breach, there is UNDOUBTEDLY a crying child reference. There is a picture of a kid in a hospital bed with the EXACT same design as the fnaf 4 (gameplay) bed. Also there are areas from fnaf4 seen in help wanted night terrors, which may be linked to the crying child and dittophobia.
Technically the first thing SteelWool tells you is that everything before help wanted doesn't exist and are just video games, and everything in Help wanted is just to poke fun at people who believe the stories.
That is true, but also tape girl tells us that the rogue indie developer was hired by Fazbear entertainment to make the games to more or less discredit the events that did happen (Correct me if my phrasing is misleading. I am responding off memory alone)
@@joechristo2 I would say it is in that OP is playing along with the narrative. This is something I would say to add comical dialogue to a friend's story. It isn't a joke in that they were using clever wordplay or trying to make you laugh, but they added a response that 'yes ands' even if they weren't literally serious. But also, if I misinterpreted, honestly, not the worst thing in the world. It's fine either way
“ladies, gentlemen and those with the sense to do away with the whole notion” is such an amazing original quote! im so glad you thought of it! and shame on ryetoast for stealing your wordcrafting! they’re honestly a monster.
@@TerminalErrorYou knows Rye is Non Binary right? Just if you are going to use their joke about getting rid of gender it feels like a big thing to miss.
They aren't really plot holes since you can still play the classic era games. This is more of a thought experiment that shows what Steel Wool finds most important for the new story they want to tell.
In regards to the missing kids, there is one vague reference in Security Breach in one of the dufflebag messages: IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN CUSTOMER COMPLAINT - Why did you reopen? Everyone remembers what happened to those kids.
I did forget about that message. But like you said, it does sound pretty vague. It doesn't even say the kids died so for this timeline I think it should connect to the bite of 87
@@TerminalErrorBut that is a nonsensical conclusion to come to. The Bite of 87 was a singular event that caused the animtronics to longer be allowed to walk around during to day. Even if a child was the victim of the Bite of 87, that message refers to several children *'Kids'* in plurel, not one child. It can only be a reference to one of the several events of missing children either the original MCI (which is referenced in Pizza Party BTW via representation), or it's referencing the missing kids at the Pizzaplex Freddy and the News Paper references in Security Breach.
As much as people say Steel Wool isn’t *as fire as the OG games,* I honestly like the new near-futuristic route they’re taking with this. I mean cmon, clearly some people imagined what they’d look like in the present day. 😅
I really enjoy videos like this, because it really shows if the books really are needed or not in having a cohesive (somewhat cohesive) grasp on the FNAF lore
I think it's a little strange you didn't want to add the MCI because of a seeming lack of evidence but felt fully comfortable concluding you play as phone guy on that last night in FNAF 1 because of some phantom sounds and a lack of color. It's an interesting theory I just don't think it really fit with this video? Regardless, I do believe there's enough existing evidence within the Steel Wool games alone to conclude the MCI happened. The opening cinematic of help wanted 1, where you're in the roller coaster cart, has an image of the Freddy's from FNAF 1 with police tape blocking it and a "now closed" sign, later Phone guy mentioned they added child predator detection to the Toy Animatronics and that someone used a yellow suit (Spring Bonnie isn't green in the SW games. HW1's fully formed Glitchtrap in the pizza party as well as the Curse of Dreadbear plush Spring Bonnie and the posters in SB for Fredbear's Family Diner all show him as yellow.) and that a police investigation has shut down the restaurant, Security Breach has a few different references to people going missing including a newspaper in the alley ending that has a headline that reads "local residents continue to go missing" with child-like silhouettes under it, Ruin had a missing poster for Gregory, and then HW2 had child-sized graves that you put little dolls on so I think all that combined there's plenty of evidence to suggest the first crime was also kids going missing.
For new people I'd recommend the first two games and stop to decide if you want to go deeper. The first game really establishes the premise and the second game establishes the "heart" or "core" of the mystery. If you enjoy the gameplay and the story then it's worth continuing through the series; if you had enough then you already got the full gaming experience and the complete main story that fuels the entire game series. Things like "what happened to that purple guy?" are questions answered if you keep going onto FNAF3 and deeper, but if all you wanted to know was 1)What the hypes about and 2)What's the core concept, then FNAF1 & FNAF2 completely answer those two questions.
This is pretty cool to think about, because that's probably what in-universe is like, fazbear entertainment did their best to hide everything, and the only people who know the information about the scott era, are conspiracionists like the in-universe scott, so the average person only knows what fazbear puts out, so the MCI for example is only speculation inside that world, because the proofs were all disproved and people consider it crazy
The thing is, in the Tales From The Pizzaplex story "Help Wanted" we are introduced to the in-universe Scott stand-in character, Steve Snodgrass (that's his name, I'm not kidding). In the story, Steve actually doesn't agree to make the indie games for Fazbear Entertainment *because* he is actually aware of the real Missing Children's event. The only reason he ends up making them (he only makes 3 and leaves the fourth unfinished) is because Fazbear Entertainment manages to trick him into doing so. Point is, it's not conspiracies, it's known knowledge, Fazbear Entertainment are just kind of hoping enough time has passed to where people will believe that the events were simply rumors and using Steve's indie games as a scapegoat. But obviously based on the "It's happening again" dufflebag message in Security Breach, more people than just Steve haven't forgotten what happened.
Terminal, Terminal! Found this very interesting theory that states Remnant could also be a form of healing! This comes from IDsFantasy, I'll give you her script: "It may seem a bit strange that Michael Afton would be able to be hired to ANY job with Sister Location ending with him possessing his own rotting corpse, but there is actually a reason why. After all, even if he looked pretty dead after Sister Location, it seems he didn't STAY looking dead. While the Fazbear Frights books might not be in the game continuity, and the Felix the Shark book specifically does contain scrap stories, they were initially written with canon in mind. And in one of those stories, a Freddy's security guard named Mike, who knows a suspicious amount about the supernatural, is described as looking like a college-kid 30 years after the murders at Freddy's. If this was meant to be Michael, in order to look college-aged by that point in time, he would've likely died at that age, and recovered from looking like a corpse, something possible thanks to the Remnant the Scooper injected him with not only keeping him from dying, but we know from the books is also capable of extreme healing. This is also likely the reason Scraptrap in Pizzeria Simulator has more flesh than Springtrap did. William likely was able to use Remnant to regenerate parts of his body that decayed."
I saw that short! I think rye toast has said something similar, but that might've just been in a stream or something. But that would make sense as to why Mike can get hired and why William always seems to come back with more human parts that he didn't have before
9:50 One thing I like to point out about the missing children's incident is in one of the duffle bags in Security Breach theirs a note stating, " Why did you reopen you know what happened to those kids." meaning the public within the universe are very still aware of the kids still being missing
I would argue that everything from Scott's era is referenced in SW era because the games were in-universe games in HW. But still, it was really interesting to look at the series from this angle.
Interesting video! Looking forward to part 2. My only suggestion is to lower the background music as I was trying to understand the ever-confusing FNAF evidence you were discussing but kept getting distracted by the music.
I have been kicking around an idea I cal FazPrrop or Fazbear Propaganda, and this timeline is displaying some of the concepts. Basically, if it appears in BOTH a steelwool game AND a Scott game [or a book], it is an in-universe lie/coverup, like the intro to help wanted saya, and thinks like the Scraptrap arcade cabinet and Scrap Baby plushies [and the Book characters referenced in Security breach] If it happened in a Scott game and NOT a Steel Wool game [like the haunted arcade cabinet minigames] it most likely is a representation of the events that Fazbear Entertainment is trying to downplay/hide. While I have less evidence, I am also proposing that The Fazbear Frights books [possibly in weekly tie-in comic form, like a happy meal thing], and the original FNaF3 in-universe game [being re-made in HW] are tie-in products to the in-universe attraction Fazbear's Fright [an escape room/haunted house as described in Scott's version of FNaF3]. Based on Gregory's comic pages and my proposed Fazbear Frights/Fazbear's Fright link, Tales from the Pizzaplex may also be a tie-in merch line [again a weekly comic to encourage repeat regular visits]. There are enough frights stories for 3 weekly stories plus an epilogue per month for a year pattern, unfortunately, so far [for this part of my premise] while the Tales books follow the 3 stories then a monthly epilogue pattern, there are only 8 books.
Help wanted said that the previous games were , in universe, made by a someone hired by Fazbear Entertainment in order to make light of its history. The games we play in help wanted are recreations of those games, so its unclear just how much information we should be pulling from them. The developer would probably know about dates and the different extablishments but probably not about individuals and the layout of the pizzarias.
13:40 Arguably, in the case of Funtime Foxy, but that's kind of a general thing and not specific to this timeline. This is a pretty fun thought experiment, I like seeing how what information is and isn't shown changes things that we would otherwise consider certain. Can't wait for part 2!
I have.. so much to say lol But specifically about your take on the bite of '87 and your use of the "someone used a yellow suit". First, i dont believe this line is talking about the bite. You left this out, but i believe its used in help wanted, the line that come after, "now none of them are acting right.". If there was a bite, which would likely be talked about in the media by the next night (it was a very public accident, why wouldnt it be talked about?), so why would he just say "now they arent acting right"? Why wouldnt he say something like, "there was an accident". Not to mention that a suit would need to be operated by a HUMAN, why would a human bite someone? How *could* a human bite someone? And a slight side rant about your elimination of Spring Bonnie when deciding who did the bite, Spring BONNIE is yellow. Spring TRAP is green. This is because Spring Trap is moldy and rotten. He literally has a dead body in him! Spring Bonnie, Burn Trap, Glitch Trap, and all the Poster images of Spring Bonnie are all yellow. Sorry for the long message lol-
What if you made a timeline using only information and concepts you can gather from the firsts of something (i.e. first game, first novel, first novella, maybe first movie).
incredible video! i've seen lots of people make the inverse, many inspired by rye, but i've wondered much about what the isolated story of steel wool's games are like and you did an amazing job at just that. the way you compiled and presented the information puts everything into a really interesting perspective. when put together, it really seems like they were intending to leave the old story behind, but changed their minds at some point; maybe in response to fans? if so, it's pretty in-line with the original games, seeing as how frequently scott changed the story to better appease the players 😁 regardless, it's a fascinating topic, and a great video!
Thank you! I'm really glad you liked it and that I don't come off like a bumbling idiot lol. I also can't really blame Steel Wool too much with the direction it looked like they wanted to take the games since security breach went through development hell. It actually makes me want to make another video going over the problem steel wool is facing with modern fnaf, so maybe that'll be the video I put out before part 2 since this one took A LOT out of me.
I feel like the small references to it are important, but I'm not entirely sure why yet. Small pieces put together correctly can highly imply it still happens but with different details, which could either mean steel wool is attempting to change it or the pieces aren't supposed to fit together that way.
9:09 (not talking about this TH-camr) what’s wrong with fnaf theorist just writing off the tombstones! You literally light them in a specific order. This is the most concrete evidence we’ve gotten and there’s ppl in the community trying to write it off for dumb reason just because it changes there theory. We all know we barley know nothing about the story. We always expected to be wrong about alot.
Shhhh! Keep your voice down! People don't like the term "concrete evidence" here. But I do agree that it seems like some of the community didn't give the new death order enough of a chance.
It really hurts to see how much content isn’t present in the Steel Wool games overall. There’s so much lore missing in the more recent games than with the entire timeline combined.
To be fair, the part of the timeline I stopped at (the gap) is pizza Sim and a good portion of that games Lore came from the Scott games website or wasn't told at all. Mainly the huge redesigns of the scrap baby, molten Freddy, lefty, and scraptrap.
This just feels like the most crackpot shit you''ll ever hear despite being a pretty grounded interpretation, and I'm all here for it honestly. Great stumble by the youtube recommended tab.
Absolute banger vid, correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe the only references to the MCI is that one duffle bag found in FNAF:SB nearby the Roxy RaceWay entrance. It might be a little vague since we're only considering Steel Wool content, but like what else would it be? That, & all of the graffitied up S.T.A.F.F. Bots intentionally designed off of the crying children spirits. Then that got me thinking.. If the Mimic ripped those bots, how does he know what a crying child looks like? Or like, who painted over them to look like that? Can't wait for part 2!
HW establishes a premise that FNAF1-UCN are in-universe video games based on urban legends surrounding a real Freddy's franchise owned by Fazbear Entertainment. Throughout Steel Wool's games, we learn that there is some truth to the urban legends, with the key word being "some". For example, the existence of Tangle proves that Molten Freddy was real. The existence of Springtrap is proof for his respective legends, and so on. Since the in-universe video games are derived from urban legends, we have to treat Scott's games as "historical fiction" for the purpose of dissecting Steel Wool's universe, which is ironic. To sum up, Scott's games exist in the Steel Wool universe as actual video games, but the stories told in those games are fiction based on urban legends. Bits and pieces are confirmed by what we hear about in HW and what we encounter in Security Breach. Security Breach's catacombs and everything there seem to suggest that we should take the "urban legends" presented in Scott's games to be factual unless otherwise contradicted by Steel Wool's in-universe proof. I hope this all makes sense.
Yes, the old games are canon, I do realize that. This video was more of a challenge to myself that also had other purposes. 1) if we can make a full timeline containing most of the info, then we might not have to comb through all the old content for information. 2) some content is just no longer easily accessible to fans. Anything on Scott games website is gone forever and now we have fnaf ar being deleted, making obtaining any of that information also difficult for fans. 3) since the timeline seems to be highly different than the "ultimate timelines" many people have made before, are any of the things left out being left out for a reason. That last one will be the hardest to prove and if it's true, we'll only know after another game or so.
the Help Wanted 1 tapes do say that the original games (FNaF1-6) are inde games in universe and were made as a cover up to discredit the real events. wouldn't all the original info still count or-
So yes, all the original info does still count (as far as we know), but this was supposed to be more of a thought experiment of building a timeline using just steel Wools games since they sort of gave the series a soft reboot. A lot of information about the series is becoming a decade old, and some of the info we get isn't accessible through the original means (like Scott games website or fnaf ar) which makes building a timeline very difficult with all the information. Tldr: Yes, the old games are still canon, but sifting through 10 years of fnaf is a headache, and I wanted to see if we need the old games still
@@TerminalError it's alright! It's understandable. At least we'll get the other half when you're done with the editing right? Even if we don't get the rest it'll be able to help others start somewhere on their quests for similar things. Take care of yourself while we're waiting btw, if stuff needs pushing back so you make time for yourself to recover from something then so be it
Lmao, I garentee I do not have it down. It took like 12 takes to say the right thing and point to the right spot. I'm glad it looks good in the video tho
That's a good point. I did forget that reference. The only thing I can currently see with that is that it seems to imply only 1 person/child went missing and was stuffed. Putting the clues together, however, could change that.
Now we are making the timeline separate, 10 years before we could have done that! What I'm saying is despite how different they are, my theory is that they are all in the same timeline! (NOT THE FAN MADE ONES LOL)
This is supposed to be the same timeline, just told from a different perspective. Its using info pulled just from the steel wool games and not from books or Scott's games, which will change some things since we don't have a full picture, but I wasn't making it intending to be a separate timeline. It just kinda turned out like that with steel wool not giving us some info.
I disagree with the MCI not happening. Remember the whole purpose of Help Wanted is to cover up the truth, which is why these versions of the games have been stripped of any reference to it.
To that, I would say they still are poking fun at things in their games and covering up the truth. We still get the reference to the bite of 87, springtrap still has a body inside, phone guy still dies, and if you don't think the incident at the fnaf 2 location was the bite, you could also use that as something for them to cover up.
This is a dificult timeline. But i do think it is important to make. Because something happened. The indie dev was hired for some reason and murdered by fazbear entertainment for some reason. (Technically speculative and you can replace killed with sued.) and help wanted was made for a reason and that reason is not only for glitchtrap reasons. Fazbear was covering something up. I suspect that whatever happened it’s mundane. Not supernatural. It is something that will make you go of course William afton did that he must be stopped. Not something that makes you go. Yea sure little Timmy William afton stuffed dead kids into animatronic suits and now they are possessed. Essentially whatever conclusion you make from playing help wanted only is a coverup and whatever in Scott’s original story that was covered up using help wanted is likley the truth. But still a bit more reasonable than that. Essentially fazbear hired not Scott to make propaganda to to cover up whatever happened but it backfired and a lot of lore was somehow hidden in the games so they terminated not Scott and moved on to help wanted and glitchtrap to finish the job. The truth is likley more serial killers and ai than ghosts possession and remnant. Of course the tangle and the plushies are difficult to justify.
I literally told Rye, he should separate it, but he wants everything on 1 corkboard... but that's not how the steelwoolverse works. He'll, I'm also different in the fact that I've said SB and Ruin are different timelines. And... I had to stop at 4 minutes... you are talking about the old games... the old games are just video games in the steel wool universe... this is going to be convoluted garbage. If you say you are going to do something 1 way, don't cheat. Like... 'I'm only going to use the games, not books', but call Henry's daughter Charlie...
@@LiMe251 wow, how original... sadly, I do watch most of these. Also, nice fake account bro, lol. "Ooh, he doesn't like Rye's video, I should hop off him and say this guy's opinion is a joke, because omg FNAF." come on kid, this isn't rocket science.
@@RavenZombieX There is so much to unpack here that I'm going to have to break it apart 1. He literally didn't cheat, Help Wanted has plenty of differences from the first 3 games, enough that he decided that the MCI didn't happen in this hypothetical timeline 2. Tf do you mean "nice account", BY WHO?! If I was a fake account, then WHY would I receive such little acknowledgement, why would I be involved in lost media searches on this account, and why would my account be 4 years old. 3. You didn't say that you didn't like Rye's video, that possibility was the least of my concerns, you think the Steelwoolverse is actually separate instead of a thought experiment, you think Ruin is a different timeline to the game it's a direct sequel to, you don't want him to compare the standard timeline perceptions to this new one as a starting point, even calling it cheating somehow, and you think using Steelwool games in a Steelwool games timeline is even remotely comparable to using books in a games only discussion, but sure, a brief mention of another youtuber is the most notable part of this comment, whatever you say. 4. You're overanalying if you thought my comment wasn't my genuine thoughts. 5. Where did I even imply something even remotely as complex as rocket science?! 6. You literally admitted to stopping at 4 minutes in before any part of the main attraction of this video had started.
@@RavenZombieXI feel the need to reiterate point number 6, you admitted to stopping the video before he got to the Steelwool timeline, you admitted to stopping the video at a point that is the standard timeline before he starts covering the Steelwool only timeline, you are judging a video that you did not watch even the start of the main purpose of.
Eh, not a fan of rye toast anymore ngl. If you watch his stream vods sometimes he gets political and in my personal opinion that's just not really conducive to an inclusive environment, especially since American politics in particular, are pretty much explicitly designed to divide you. I quit being politically active years ago due to this very reason. It's just some dumbass game to these people in charge, and I'm not gonna play it. They can eat shit. 😂 He makes solid theories and otherwise seems like an okay guy, I'm just not a fan of that kinda crap. Stick to Fnaf, avoid the dumbass drama. But that's just me. You may see it differently. And hey, maybe when I'm less stressed, I might see it differently too. But right now, hell no. I don't need to be reminded how much the world sucks, I live in it. I know how much it sucks.
Yeah, completely agree. After the one podcast where Rye starts ranting about people who vote a certain way are “redeemable” and wants to give then a chance to see the error of their ways, I quit watching. Absolutely ridiculous and cult like behavior.
Hey terminal error I've commented this 3 times and would like to hear what you say about this theory I think I know why fredbears hat changes And ill explain We all know chuck e cheese right? Well back in the day when they opened in pretty sure they would give each chuck e cheese different clothes on each chuck e at each place so I think the reason the fredbear hat changes is bc I believe that there was more then one fredbear area and I think in each diner they give fredbear a different hat and bow tie the first location fredbear has purple hat and bow tie at the second diner fredbear had a brown hat and bow tie at the 3rd place fredbear had a black hat and black bow tie this could also explain all the different spring bonnies we see maybe they were different at each area but that's just my theory what is ur thoughts on this fredbear theory?
That's a pretty good theory! I love when people use Chuck e cheese information to back up their theories because it helps ground it in the real world. My only concern is that I don't think we've gotten a reference to multiple fredbears locations before. Multiple Freddy's yes, but not so sure about fredbear. That also seems to imply that each fredbear is tied to a different tragic event. Purple hat is tied to CCs death, black hat to the MCI, and while brown doesn't have a canon tragedy, one of the kids in a separate box in the fnaf 3 minigame is missing which feels intentional since each box is a copy and paste. I dont think this is a bad theory. In fact, I think it's really well thought out and creative, I just dont see enough evidence for me to personally believe it. But if we get reference to a second fredbears, I might just need to jump to your theory.
I think I can explain why there would be multiple fredbears for starters the business was booming so it would make since that they opened another fredbear diner plus in fnaf 3 if I remember phone guy says "the suits have been sent to the multiple freddy locations" he said the suits if there was more then 2 why would they suits be sent to different locations? Sure there could have been extras but if there were extras wouldn't they be able to put em all in the same location also he said "due to multiple spring lock failures we can't use the suits" I don't think I exactly remember what he said but I doubt the spring lock failures all happened in the same 2 suits plus it can't be the circus baby ones either since that place closed in one day Also here's another reason why there could be multiple diners spring bonnie since in my first comment I say chuck e cheese changed his fit at different places maybe they also changed the whole spring bonnie at each diner for example the spring bonnie head in the parts and service at fredbears the head looks so weird and the spring bonnie suit purple guy is putting on a employee looks different from the one on stage plus the one on stage in fnaf 4 during the bite is brown and let's compare nightmare fredbear and fredbear to the fredbear in fnaf 1 and fnaf 2 they look WAY different not bc of the hat and bowtie but there stomach doesn't nightmare fredbear and the fredbear in the eight bit mini game look way thicker then the fnaf 1 and fnaf 2 fredbear? So that's my reason why the hat and bowtie changes these reasons might not be as good as the comment I posted but this is just my theory
ok the amount of things that just arent referenced is pretty eye opening
Part 2 is gonna make people mad because of how little information we get...
Uh oh
On one hand, it makes sense. You don't want to reiterate what's already known. Having someone stop and point out that "Remember back in that one pizzeria, where William Afton killed 5- I mean 6- I mean 7- I mean 10- I mean idk how many kids? Yeah just remember that for the future." But also, the total lack of connective tissue is probably why there is such a big rift between the old and the new, the new doesn't really acknowledge the old, not properly.
@@aliendilo3105 What's really frustrating is that cut content for Security Breach had more connective tissue, particularly Freddy talking about "bad things that happened in the past".
Circus baby’s pizza world does actually have a reference in hw2, being one of the places you have to restore power to in funtime Freddy’s level.
I didn't notice that. Thank you for letting me know! I'll add that in the part 2
HOLD ON! In the endo training section of security breach, there is UNDOUBTEDLY a crying child reference. There is a picture of a kid in a hospital bed with the EXACT same design as the fnaf 4 (gameplay) bed. Also there are areas from fnaf4 seen in help wanted night terrors, which may be linked to the crying child and dittophobia.
This is reference to the experiments
@@Mickfighter Dittophobia confirmed!!!!
Technically the first thing SteelWool tells you is that everything before help wanted doesn't exist and are just video games, and everything in Help wanted is just to poke fun at people who believe the stories.
That is true, but also tape girl tells us that the rogue indie developer was hired by Fazbear entertainment to make the games to more or less discredit the events that did happen
(Correct me if my phrasing is misleading. I am responding off memory alone)
Okay, my autistic brain has processed that you were joking and I took you too seriously
Nvm lol
@@hailey813it’s not a joke
@@joechristo2 I would say it is in that OP is playing along with the narrative. This is something I would say to add comical dialogue to a friend's story. It isn't a joke in that they were using clever wordplay or trying to make you laugh, but they added a response that 'yes ands' even if they weren't literally serious. But also, if I misinterpreted, honestly, not the worst thing in the world. It's fine either way
“ladies, gentlemen and those with the sense to do away with the whole notion” is such an amazing original quote! im so glad you thought of it! and shame on ryetoast for stealing your wordcrafting! they’re honestly a monster.
I can't tell if this is satire or not, why is rye a monster???
@@_snail9234it’s satire
It's okay. That monster is getting what's coming to him. My very real team of lawyers are contacting him now.
@@TerminalErrorYou knows Rye is Non Binary right? Just if you are going to use their joke about getting rid of gender it feels like a big thing to miss.
Yeah, I know Rye is non binary. If you thought I was making a joke about him being non binary, you're wrong.
Someone on steel wools gonna take notes and add all the plot holes theyre missing into the next game trust
Oh I believe it
They aren't really plot holes since you can still play the classic era games.
This is more of a thought experiment that shows what Steel Wool finds most important for the new story they want to tell.
In regards to the missing kids, there is one vague reference in Security Breach in one of the dufflebag messages:
IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN
CUSTOMER COMPLAINT - Why did you reopen? Everyone remembers what happened to those kids.
I did forget about that message. But like you said, it does sound pretty vague. It doesn't even say the kids died so for this timeline I think it should connect to the bite of 87
@@TerminalError I apologize. I'm confused. Why the Bite of '87 specifically?
@@TerminalErrorBut that is a nonsensical conclusion to come to. The Bite of 87 was a singular event that caused the animtronics to longer be allowed to walk around during to day. Even if a child was the victim of the Bite of 87, that message refers to several children *'Kids'* in plurel, not one child. It can only be a reference to one of the several events of missing children either the original MCI (which is referenced in Pizza Party BTW via representation), or it's referencing the missing kids at the Pizzaplex Freddy and the News Paper references in Security Breach.
As much as people say Steel Wool isn’t *as fire as the OG games,* I honestly like the new near-futuristic route they’re taking with this. I mean cmon, clearly some people imagined what they’d look like in the present day. 😅
Honestly, I also love the direction steel wool is going to. I feel the futuristic evil ai robot fits into an animatronic horror series very well.
@@TerminalError Ditto, if it weren’t so focused on horror, I bet that it would a more dystopian-like thing, or maybe even cyberpunk.
@@skyenight-by8yh I'd 100% be down for a game like that. People seem to really like Scott's "A Desolate Hope" so SW could really pull it off.
Fnaf in 50 years after steel wool gets rid of the old content:
I really enjoy videos like this, because it really shows if the books really are needed or not in having a cohesive (somewhat cohesive) grasp on the FNAF lore
I think it's a little strange you didn't want to add the MCI because of a seeming lack of evidence but felt fully comfortable concluding you play as phone guy on that last night in FNAF 1 because of some phantom sounds and a lack of color. It's an interesting theory I just don't think it really fit with this video? Regardless, I do believe there's enough existing evidence within the Steel Wool games alone to conclude the MCI happened.
The opening cinematic of help wanted 1, where you're in the roller coaster cart, has an image of the Freddy's from FNAF 1 with police tape blocking it and a "now closed" sign, later Phone guy mentioned they added child predator detection to the Toy Animatronics and that someone used a yellow suit (Spring Bonnie isn't green in the SW games. HW1's fully formed Glitchtrap in the pizza party as well as the Curse of Dreadbear plush Spring Bonnie and the posters in SB for Fredbear's Family Diner all show him as yellow.) and that a police investigation has shut down the restaurant, Security Breach has a few different references to people going missing including a newspaper in the alley ending that has a headline that reads "local residents continue to go missing" with child-like silhouettes under it, Ruin had a missing poster for Gregory, and then HW2 had child-sized graves that you put little dolls on so I think all that combined there's plenty of evidence to suggest the first crime was also kids going missing.
For new people I'd recommend the first two games and stop to decide if you want to go deeper. The first game really establishes the premise and the second game establishes the "heart" or "core" of the mystery. If you enjoy the gameplay and the story then it's worth continuing through the series; if you had enough then you already got the full gaming experience and the complete main story that fuels the entire game series. Things like "what happened to that purple guy?" are questions answered if you keep going onto FNAF3 and deeper, but if all you wanted to know was 1)What the hypes about and 2)What's the core concept, then FNAF1 & FNAF2 completely answer those two questions.
This is pretty cool to think about, because that's probably what in-universe is like, fazbear entertainment did their best to hide everything, and the only people who know the information about the scott era, are conspiracionists like the in-universe scott, so the average person only knows what fazbear puts out, so the MCI for example is only speculation inside that world, because the proofs were all disproved and people consider it crazy
The thing is, in the Tales From The Pizzaplex story "Help Wanted" we are introduced to the in-universe Scott stand-in character, Steve Snodgrass (that's his name, I'm not kidding). In the story, Steve actually doesn't agree to make the indie games for Fazbear Entertainment *because* he is actually aware of the real Missing Children's event. The only reason he ends up making them (he only makes 3 and leaves the fourth unfinished) is because Fazbear Entertainment manages to trick him into doing so.
Point is, it's not conspiracies, it's known knowledge, Fazbear Entertainment are just kind of hoping enough time has passed to where people will believe that the events were simply rumors and using Steve's indie games as a scapegoat. But obviously based on the "It's happening again" dufflebag message in Security Breach, more people than just Steve haven't forgotten what happened.
Terminal, Terminal! Found this very interesting theory that states Remnant could also be a form of healing! This comes from IDsFantasy, I'll give you her script:
"It may seem a bit strange that Michael Afton would be able to be hired to ANY job with Sister Location ending with him possessing his own rotting corpse, but there is actually a reason why.
After all, even if he looked pretty dead after Sister Location, it seems he didn't STAY looking dead. While the Fazbear Frights books might not be in the game continuity, and the Felix the Shark book specifically does contain scrap stories, they were initially written with canon in mind. And in one of those stories, a Freddy's security guard named Mike, who knows a suspicious amount about the supernatural, is described as looking like a college-kid 30 years after the murders at Freddy's. If this was meant to be Michael, in order to look college-aged by that point in time, he would've likely died at that age, and recovered from looking like a corpse, something possible thanks to the Remnant the Scooper injected him with not only keeping him from dying, but we know from the books is also capable of extreme healing. This is also likely the reason Scraptrap in Pizzeria Simulator has more flesh than Springtrap did. William likely was able to use Remnant to regenerate parts of his body that decayed."
I saw that short! I think rye toast has said something similar, but that might've just been in a stream or something. But that would make sense as to why Mike can get hired and why William always seems to come back with more human parts that he didn't have before
@@TerminalError That also made me have this though: Oh god, that means William's body could be regenerating.
9:50 One thing I like to point out about the missing children's incident is in one of the duffle bags in Security Breach theirs a note stating, " Why did you reopen you know what happened to those kids." meaning the public within the universe are very still aware of the kids still being missing
I would argue that everything from Scott's era is referenced in SW era because the games were in-universe games in HW.
But still, it was really interesting to look at the series from this angle.
Interesting video! Looking forward to part 2. My only suggestion is to lower the background music as I was trying to understand the ever-confusing FNAF evidence you were discussing but kept getting distracted by the music.
Glad you liked it! And I will make sure volume is lower next time
Thank you for taking the time to do this!
No problem! It was fun to make!
A+ rye impression
Take cake is referenced in hw2 fazerblast and the golden Freddy poppet if those count
Thank you! I'll have to double-check that take cake reference to see if it breaks my theory.
8:23 it is mentioned In a duffle bag in security breach. "Why did you guys re-open? Everyone remembers what happened to those kids"
I have been kicking around an idea I cal FazPrrop or Fazbear Propaganda, and this timeline is displaying some of the concepts.
Basically, if it appears in BOTH a steelwool game AND a Scott game [or a book], it is an in-universe lie/coverup, like the intro to help wanted saya, and thinks like the Scraptrap arcade cabinet and Scrap Baby plushies [and the Book characters referenced in Security breach]
If it happened in a Scott game and NOT a Steel Wool game [like the haunted arcade cabinet minigames] it most likely is a representation of the events that Fazbear Entertainment is trying to downplay/hide.
While I have less evidence, I am also proposing that The Fazbear Frights books [possibly in weekly tie-in comic form, like a happy meal thing], and the original FNaF3 in-universe game [being re-made in HW] are tie-in products to the in-universe attraction Fazbear's Fright [an escape room/haunted house as described in Scott's version of FNaF3]. Based on Gregory's comic pages and my proposed Fazbear Frights/Fazbear's Fright link, Tales from the Pizzaplex may also be a tie-in merch line [again a weekly comic to encourage repeat regular visits].
There are enough frights stories for 3 weekly stories plus an epilogue per month for a year pattern, unfortunately, so far [for this part of my premise] while the Tales books follow the 3 stories then a monthly epilogue pattern, there are only 8 books.
need part 2 immediately this was very entertaining and fun
I'm trying to get this bad boy out ASAP!
Help wanted said that the previous games were , in universe, made by a someone hired by Fazbear Entertainment in order to make light of its history. The games we play in help wanted are recreations of those games, so its unclear just how much information we should be pulling from them. The developer would probably know about dates and the different extablishments but probably not about individuals and the layout of the pizzarias.
13:40 Arguably, in the case of Funtime Foxy, but that's kind of a general thing and not specific to this timeline.
This is a pretty fun thought experiment, I like seeing how what information is and isn't shown changes things that we would otherwise consider certain. Can't wait for part 2!
I have.. so much to say lol
But specifically about your take on the bite of '87 and your use of the "someone used a yellow suit".
First, i dont believe this line is talking about the bite. You left this out, but i believe its used in help wanted, the line that come after, "now none of them are acting right.". If there was a bite, which would likely be talked about in the media by the next night (it was a very public accident, why wouldnt it be talked about?), so why would he just say "now they arent acting right"? Why wouldnt he say something like, "there was an accident".
Not to mention that a suit would need to be operated by a HUMAN, why would a human bite someone? How *could* a human bite someone?
And a slight side rant about your elimination of Spring Bonnie when deciding who did the bite, Spring BONNIE is yellow. Spring TRAP is green. This is because Spring Trap is moldy and rotten. He literally has a dead body in him!
Spring Bonnie, Burn Trap, Glitch Trap, and all the Poster images of Spring Bonnie are all yellow.
Sorry for the long message lol-
Thank you, I was thinking this exact thing at that point. I still enjoyed the video and the other points he brought up. It's a fun sleuthing exercise.
This is actually so interesting! I kind of want to do something similar but including the Tales from the Pizzaplex books now. Great video!
Thank you! I'm glad I could inspire you to do something similar!
i was looking for new fnaf content to watch and i’m glad i found your channel!!!
Glad you found me!
UR SO UNDERRATED IT HONESTLY INSANE OMG😭😭😭
Please continue, watching these theories is very entertaining thank you!
What if you made a timeline using only information and concepts you can gather from the firsts of something (i.e. first game, first novel, first novella, maybe first movie).
incredible video! i've seen lots of people make the inverse, many inspired by rye, but i've wondered much about what the isolated story of steel wool's games are like and you did an amazing job at just that. the way you compiled and presented the information puts everything into a really interesting perspective. when put together, it really seems like they were intending to leave the old story behind, but changed their minds at some point; maybe in response to fans? if so, it's pretty in-line with the original games, seeing as how frequently scott changed the story to better appease the players 😁 regardless, it's a fascinating topic, and a great video!
Thank you! I'm really glad you liked it and that I don't come off like a bumbling idiot lol.
I also can't really blame Steel Wool too much with the direction it looked like they wanted to take the games since security breach went through development hell. It actually makes me want to make another video going over the problem steel wool is facing with modern fnaf, so maybe that'll be the video I put out before part 2 since this one took A LOT out of me.
This is good stuff! It's wild that there's so little reference to MCI, interesting pivot for Steel Wool.
I feel like the small references to it are important, but I'm not entirely sure why yet. Small pieces put together correctly can highly imply it still happens but with different details, which could either mean steel wool is attempting to change it or the pieces aren't supposed to fit together that way.
9:09 (not talking about this TH-camr) what’s wrong with fnaf theorist just writing off the tombstones! You literally light them in a specific order. This is the most concrete evidence we’ve gotten and there’s ppl in the community trying to write it off for dumb reason just because it changes there theory. We all know we barley know nothing about the story. We always expected to be wrong about alot.
Shhhh! Keep your voice down! People don't like the term "concrete evidence" here. But I do agree that it seems like some of the community didn't give the new death order enough of a chance.
It really hurts to see how much content isn’t present in the Steel Wool games overall. There’s so much lore missing in the more recent games than with the entire timeline combined.
To be fair, the part of the timeline I stopped at (the gap) is pizza Sim and a good portion of that games Lore came from the Scott games website or wasn't told at all. Mainly the huge redesigns of the scrap baby, molten Freddy, lefty, and scraptrap.
in ruin there is something called golden freddy plush which makes him canon
Do you mean the AR golden glamrock freddy plush?
@@TerminalError yes, but i found it strange that they would include it
You look like pastor rob from young Sheldon
Well, that's a first.
This just feels like the most crackpot shit you''ll ever hear despite being a pretty grounded interpretation, and I'm all here for it honestly. Great stumble by the youtube recommended tab.
Lmao, this is a great compliment. I'm glad you found me!
I love this concept so much! Can't wait for part two
I'm really glad you liked it!
please adjust the music audio next time, it's a little loud
great video
You got it! Thought I adjusted it well this time, but I'll lower it more next time. Is it all too loud, or is there a specific part that sticks out?
@@TerminalError It's all too loud but the vid overall is great
Alternative title: the history of Fazbear Entertainment in the eyes of the in-game public
Ppl be like “whats ur type?”
I just show them this video
This is a great video just one complaint the background music is more so foreground music
Thank you! I will make sure it's lower for part 2
I was literally thinking about this in the shower a couple of days ago and now youtube shows me this video lol
TH-cam knows what you're thinking at all times
Absolute banger vid, correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe the only references to the MCI is that one duffle bag found in FNAF:SB nearby the Roxy RaceWay entrance. It might be a little vague since we're only considering Steel Wool content, but like what else would it be? That, & all of the graffitied up S.T.A.F.F. Bots intentionally designed off of the crying children spirits. Then that got me thinking.. If the Mimic ripped those bots, how does he know what a crying child looks like? Or like, who painted over them to look like that? Can't wait for part 2!
HW establishes a premise that FNAF1-UCN are in-universe video games based on urban legends surrounding a real Freddy's franchise owned by Fazbear Entertainment. Throughout Steel Wool's games, we learn that there is some truth to the urban legends, with the key word being "some". For example, the existence of Tangle proves that Molten Freddy was real. The existence of Springtrap is proof for his respective legends, and so on. Since the in-universe video games are derived from urban legends, we have to treat Scott's games as "historical fiction" for the purpose of dissecting Steel Wool's universe, which is ironic. To sum up, Scott's games exist in the Steel Wool universe as actual video games, but the stories told in those games are fiction based on urban legends. Bits and pieces are confirmed by what we hear about in HW and what we encounter in Security Breach. Security Breach's catacombs and everything there seem to suggest that we should take the "urban legends" presented in Scott's games to be factual unless otherwise contradicted by Steel Wool's in-universe proof. I hope this all makes sense.
Yes, the old games are canon, I do realize that. This video was more of a challenge to myself that also had other purposes. 1) if we can make a full timeline containing most of the info, then we might not have to comb through all the old content for information. 2) some content is just no longer easily accessible to fans. Anything on Scott games website is gone forever and now we have fnaf ar being deleted, making obtaining any of that information also difficult for fans. 3) since the timeline seems to be highly different than the "ultimate timelines" many people have made before, are any of the things left out being left out for a reason. That last one will be the hardest to prove and if it's true, we'll only know after another game or so.
I love this type of content. Keep going 👍
You got it!
Bro look like staffbot but human
in the help wanted gallery the og nightmares are shown. just a thought
We also see them in the dreadbear dlc, but I think the Lore from that might better fit the next video
@@TerminalError OMG I just found an arcade cabinet in security breach that has nightmare fredbear on it, ford this make him non canon?
the Help Wanted 1 tapes do say that the original games (FNaF1-6) are inde games in universe and were made as a cover up to discredit the real events. wouldn't all the original info still count or-
So yes, all the original info does still count (as far as we know), but this was supposed to be more of a thought experiment of building a timeline using just steel Wools games since they sort of gave the series a soft reboot. A lot of information about the series is becoming a decade old, and some of the info we get isn't accessible through the original means (like Scott games website or fnaf ar) which makes building a timeline very difficult with all the information.
Tldr: Yes, the old games are still canon, but sifting through 10 years of fnaf is a headache, and I wanted to see if we need the old games still
Tales from the pizzaplex are necessary
Hi, could someone please give me an updated list of all the books? I have been searching for a lot of time and I havent find anything, thanks btw!
im sad we gotta wait for the rest of this great video but! it'll be worth
Sorry I split it! I honestly didn't want to but I hate not posting something for almost a month
@@TerminalError it's alright! It's understandable. At least we'll get the other half when you're done with the editing right? Even if we don't get the rest it'll be able to help others start somewhere on their quests for similar things. Take care of yourself while we're waiting btw, if stuff needs pushing back so you make time for yourself to recover from something then so be it
Not gone lie great video bro but of u ever wanted to be a weather man, you got it down packed, pointing nd everything was on point💯💯😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao, I garentee I do not have it down. It took like 12 takes to say the right thing and point to the right spot. I'm glad it looks good in the video tho
8:26 What about Pizza Party/Twisted Birthday from Help Wanted 1?
That's a good point. I did forget that reference. The only thing I can currently see with that is that it seems to imply only 1 person/child went missing and was stuffed. Putting the clues together, however, could change that.
Now we are making the timeline separate, 10 years before we could have done that! What I'm saying is despite how different they are, my theory is that they are all in the same timeline! (NOT THE FAN MADE ONES LOL)
This is supposed to be the same timeline, just told from a different perspective. Its using info pulled just from the steel wool games and not from books or Scott's games, which will change some things since we don't have a full picture, but I wasn't making it intending to be a separate timeline. It just kinda turned out like that with steel wool not giving us some info.
I disagree with the MCI not happening. Remember the whole purpose of Help Wanted is to cover up the truth, which is why these versions of the games have been stripped of any reference to it.
To that, I would say they still are poking fun at things in their games and covering up the truth. We still get the reference to the bite of 87, springtrap still has a body inside, phone guy still dies, and if you don't think the incident at the fnaf 2 location was the bite, you could also use that as something for them to cover up.
woow so underatted bro!
Glad you think so!
There is a golden freddy on an arcade cabinet in sb
someones a ludwig fan
Whaaaaat? Nooooooo, what makes you say that? Half of my music definitely isn't pulled from his music channel
This is a dificult timeline. But i do think it is important to make. Because something happened.
The indie dev was hired for some reason and murdered by fazbear entertainment for some reason. (Technically speculative and you can replace killed with sued.) and help wanted was made for a reason and that reason is not only for glitchtrap reasons.
Fazbear was covering something up. I suspect that whatever happened it’s mundane. Not supernatural. It is something that will make you go of course William afton did that he must be stopped. Not something that makes you go. Yea sure little Timmy William afton stuffed dead kids into animatronic suits and now they are possessed.
Essentially whatever conclusion you make from playing help wanted only is a coverup and whatever in Scott’s original story that was covered up using help wanted is likley the truth. But still a bit more reasonable than that.
Essentially fazbear hired not Scott to make propaganda to to cover up whatever happened but it backfired and a lot of lore was somehow hidden in the games so they terminated not Scott and moved on to help wanted and glitchtrap to finish the job.
The truth is likley more serial killers and ai than ghosts possession and remnant.
Of course the tangle and the plushies are difficult to justify.
Jokes on you I only watched till 22:17 and not the very end(22:21). Get pranked
DAMN IT! YOU GOT ME AGAIN!!
Wait, isn't a reference to Take Cake To The Children in FNaF: Help Wanted 2?
To my knowledge no. I might've missed something, though. Do you know what game the reference is in?
@@TerminalError Fazer Blast 2, the FNaF 2 level
It does look like they are using the same kid sprites in that game, but they don't seem to show anything about Charlie's death from what I've found
@@TerminalError Fair point. We're supposed to connect The Puppet with those kids, but there's no way to know that only using SW games
*appears in video*
Oh hey! Its me!
*appears again*
Man, being in a video THIS good must make me famous.
Can you do another live stream please 🥺
I'll give you ten bucks for the lego set 1:44
Naw, that thing is getting built this weekend hopefully
Oh man. Have funktioniert building it 😊
Oh man. Have fun building it😊
this is literally just a rye toast vid lol
no hate i just thought it was funny how eerily similar it is
Lmao, that's why I credited him. He came up with the idea, and I yoinked and twisted it
brb sending this to my mom 😂
Lmao I hope your mom liked it!
Are you colour blind cos all those images of Spring Bonnie you showed were yellow lol.
Springtrap, burntrap, and plushtrap are all green, and glitchtrap approaches you as a green glitch, making me believe he's still a shade of green.
yo!
Yo!
2 parter. 💔
Sorry. It was either that or push it back again, and I REALLY didn't wanna push it back another week
19:00……Something to point out….Shadow dee dee in UCN: Is black and white.
So UCN: Purgatory? Or seeing things from the past?
you forgor help wanted mobile
Is there any other differences between mobile and vr other than the tapes get replaced by princess quest?
Hot take: the mimic is a boring antagonist
I literally told Rye, he should separate it, but he wants everything on 1 corkboard... but that's not how the steelwoolverse works.
He'll, I'm also different in the fact that I've said SB and Ruin are different timelines.
And... I had to stop at 4 minutes... you are talking about the old games... the old games are just video games in the steel wool universe... this is going to be convoluted garbage. If you say you are going to do something 1 way, don't cheat.
Like... 'I'm only going to use the games, not books', but call Henry's daughter Charlie...
How about you actually watch the video before casting your judgement. This feels like a parody of a comment.
@@LiMe251 wow, how original... sadly, I do watch most of these. Also, nice fake account bro, lol. "Ooh, he doesn't like Rye's video, I should hop off him and say this guy's opinion is a joke, because omg FNAF." come on kid, this isn't rocket science.
@@RavenZombieX There is so much to unpack here that I'm going to have to break it apart
1. He literally didn't cheat, Help Wanted has plenty of differences from the first 3 games, enough that he decided that the MCI didn't happen in this hypothetical timeline
2. Tf do you mean "nice account", BY WHO?! If I was a fake account, then WHY would I receive such little acknowledgement, why would I be involved in lost media searches on this account, and why would my account be 4 years old.
3. You didn't say that you didn't like Rye's video, that possibility was the least of my concerns, you think the Steelwoolverse is actually separate instead of a thought experiment, you think Ruin is a different timeline to the game it's a direct sequel to, you don't want him to compare the standard timeline perceptions to this new one as a starting point, even calling it cheating somehow, and you think using Steelwool games in a Steelwool games timeline is even remotely comparable to using books in a games only discussion, but sure, a brief mention of another youtuber is the most notable part of this comment, whatever you say.
4. You're overanalying if you thought my comment wasn't my genuine thoughts.
5. Where did I even imply something even remotely as complex as rocket science?!
6. You literally admitted to stopping at 4 minutes in before any part of the main attraction of this video had started.
@@RavenZombieXI feel the need to reiterate point number 6, you admitted to stopping the video before he got to the Steelwool timeline, you admitted to stopping the video at a point that is the standard timeline before he starts covering the Steelwool only timeline, you are judging a video that you did not watch even the start of the main purpose of.
Eh, not a fan of rye toast anymore ngl.
If you watch his stream vods sometimes he gets political and in my personal opinion that's just not really conducive to an inclusive environment, especially since American politics in particular, are pretty much explicitly designed to divide you.
I quit being politically active years ago due to this very reason.
It's just some dumbass game to these people in charge, and I'm not gonna play it.
They can eat shit. 😂
He makes solid theories and otherwise seems like an okay guy, I'm just not a fan of that kinda crap.
Stick to Fnaf, avoid the dumbass drama.
But that's just me. You may see it differently.
And hey, maybe when I'm less stressed, I might see it differently too.
But right now, hell no.
I don't need to be reminded how much the world sucks, I live in it. I know how much it sucks.
Yeah, completely agree. After the one podcast where Rye starts ranting about people who vote a certain way are “redeemable” and wants to give then a chance to see the error of their ways, I quit watching. Absolutely ridiculous and cult like behavior.
Hey terminal error I've commented this 3 times and would like to hear what you say about this theory I think I know why fredbears hat changes And ill explain We all know chuck e cheese right? Well back in the day when they opened in pretty sure they would give each chuck e cheese different clothes on each chuck e at each place so I think the reason the fredbear hat changes is bc I believe that there was more then one fredbear area and I think in each diner they give fredbear a different hat and bow tie the first location fredbear has purple hat and bow tie at the second diner fredbear had a brown hat and bow tie at the 3rd place fredbear had a black hat and black bow tie this could also explain all the different spring bonnies we see maybe they were different at each area but that's just my theory what is ur thoughts on this fredbear theory?
That's a pretty good theory! I love when people use Chuck e cheese information to back up their theories because it helps ground it in the real world. My only concern is that I don't think we've gotten a reference to multiple fredbears locations before. Multiple Freddy's yes, but not so sure about fredbear.
That also seems to imply that each fredbear is tied to a different tragic event. Purple hat is tied to CCs death, black hat to the MCI, and while brown doesn't have a canon tragedy, one of the kids in a separate box in the fnaf 3 minigame is missing which feels intentional since each box is a copy and paste.
I dont think this is a bad theory. In fact, I think it's really well thought out and creative, I just dont see enough evidence for me to personally believe it. But if we get reference to a second fredbears, I might just need to jump to your theory.
I think I can explain why there would be multiple fredbears for starters the business was booming so it would make since that they opened another fredbear diner plus in fnaf 3 if I remember phone guy says "the suits have been sent to the multiple freddy locations" he said the suits if there was more then 2 why would they suits be sent to different locations? Sure there could have been extras but if there were extras wouldn't they be able to put em all in the same location also he said "due to multiple spring lock failures we can't use the suits" I don't think I exactly remember what he said but I doubt the spring lock failures all happened in the same 2 suits plus it can't be the circus baby ones either since that place closed in one day Also here's another reason why there could be multiple diners spring bonnie since in my first comment I say chuck e cheese changed his fit at different places maybe they also changed the whole spring bonnie at each diner for example the spring bonnie head in the parts and service at fredbears the head looks so weird and the spring bonnie suit purple guy is putting on a employee looks different from the one on stage plus the one on stage in fnaf 4 during the bite is brown and let's compare nightmare fredbear and fredbear to the fredbear in fnaf 1 and fnaf 2 they look WAY different not bc of the hat and bowtie but there stomach doesn't nightmare fredbear and the fredbear in the eight bit mini game look way thicker then the fnaf 1 and fnaf 2 fredbear? So that's my reason why the hat and bowtie changes these reasons might not be as good as the comment I posted but this is just my theory